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Title: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: ben3350 on March 26, 2014, 08:12:20 AM
Skateboarding popularity has, whether you like it or not, exploded in the last few years. With the help of street league, nike, and all those damn mall shops, it seems skateboarding is bigger than it ever has been.

So why is there absolutely no news of a skateboarding video game on the new consoles? Skateboarding was not really super popular in the mainstream when the tony hawk games came out. Even when the skate games were around it was not as big as it is today.

I'm surprised that Dyrdek hasn't announced some sort of street league game or something like that. I feel like in some way he is the "tony hawk" of what regular people see as mainstream skate culture. Again, not saying any of this is a good thing, just saying how it is.

Also a bit confused why there is no Skate 4. I think I heard that EA's president says there is no market for it. I think this may have been slightly true when Skate 3 came out. But right now it could be a huge business.

When Xbox 360 and PS3 were the newest consoles, it was easier to see why there was no new game because there were already tons of good games on the consoles already. But now, we have new systems are there are 0 games out for skateboarding right now. I know a new skateboarding game that is at least slightly authentic could be huge.

What do you think the likelihood of new skateboarding game on Xbox One/PS4 is?
Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: tortfeasor on March 26, 2014, 08:27:16 AM
if you can sit on your hands for a bit, and afford an Oculus VR prepare to have your mind fucking blown in 2015.
Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: landCow on March 26, 2014, 08:41:34 PM
Games are big fucking business. BIG. The amount of money involved to make a single game these days is becoming ridiculous and getting crazier with every game. Its at a point where big name developers who have the cash to develop for ps4 and xbox1 will not make a game if there is the slightest chance it won't be a success. There can't be any risk. Skateboarding is the biggest its ever been but it is still a niche audience.

The risky games come from indie studios so there are a lot of indie skate games around just not the EA skate you probably want.
Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: ice nine on March 26, 2014, 11:13:42 PM
i always hear the skate 3 didnt sell bullshit, but i broke my old copy and had to buy another one last year. the one i bought was a 'classics' edition or something though, which doesnt make sense.
Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: Sit on my face on March 27, 2014, 06:21:05 AM
i always hear the skate 3 didnt sell bullshit, but i broke my old copy and had to buy another one last year. the one i bought was a 'classics' edition or something though, which doesnt make sense.

Eh?? I've went through 3 or 4 copies of skate 3 because i'll literally play until the disc wont work anymore. Also, almost everyone I know who owns a ps3/xbox360 has, or has had a copy of skate 3.
Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: ben3350 on March 27, 2014, 01:40:49 PM
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i always hear the skate 3 didnt sell bullshit, but i broke my old copy and had to buy another one last year. the one i bought was a 'classics' edition or something though, which doesnt make sense.
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Eh?? I've went through 3 or 4 copies of skate 3 because i'll literally play until the disc wont work anymore. Also, almost everyone I know who owns a ps3/xbox360 has, or has had a copy of skate 3.

Yeah, same, but then again most of my friends are skaters or have interest in skate culture or have been influenced by me.

I agree that skateboarding is still a niche audience. And that sometimes the skate world feels bigger to me than it actually is, because I surround myself with skaters and and videos and go to skate websites and follow everything about it.

EA's skate sales are only impressive in that they are very good "for a niche subset". Not impressive in general. I think this is slowly changing, and that mainstream and skating are really starting to mesh more than ever before. But even in 2010, when Skate 3 came out, skating was relatively unknown as a culture the way it is seen today. Skate 1 and 2 even much much more so.
Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: ice nine on March 27, 2014, 01:58:12 PM
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i always hear the skate 3 didnt sell bullshit, but i broke my old copy and had to buy another one last year. the one i bought was a 'classics' edition or something though, which doesnt make sense.
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Eh?? I've went through 3 or 4 copies of skate 3 because i'll literally play until the disc wont work anymore. Also, almost everyone I know who owns a ps3/xbox360 has, or has had a copy of skate 3.
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Yeah, same, but then again most of my friends are skaters or have interest in skate culture or have been influenced by me.

I agree that skateboarding is still a niche audience. And that sometimes the skate world feels bigger to me than it actually is, because I surround myself with skaters and and videos and go to skate websites and follow everything about it.

EA's skate sales are only impressive in that they are very good "for a niche subset". Not impressive in general. I think this is slowly changing, and that mainstream and skating are really starting to mesh more than ever before. But even in 2010, when Skate 3 came out, skating was relatively unknown as a culture the way it is seen today. Skate 1 and 2 even much much more so.

uh yea, no shit. thats why i said it was weird that EA has said it doesn't sell well, yet they market it as a 'classic'. do video games costs/revenue's get reported anywhere?

also if EA didn't disband black box i bet we'd have another skate game by now.
Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: Choad Muskrat on March 31, 2014, 08:23:10 AM
I know this is off topic, but they did the same thing with snowboarding games. Amped 2 was the best and most realistic snowboarding game ever and they ruined it with 3 (played the demo and it was horrendus). Now there isn't a single good snowboarding game either.

It makes no sense to me, seeing as both skateboarding and snowboarding are more popular now than ever.

I REALLY don't understand the skate franchise going under. They nailed it as a game that's popular with everyone, not just skaters. If you go into the online matches theres people doing insane tony hawk comobs and that's good since it can appeal to the casual point getting gamer  and kids as well.

It's really fucked that there's no skate 4 announcement, I feel like they could make so much money at this point. Almost every kid in my town at least cruises around on a longboard or scooter, and those are the same kids with xboxs who would eat that shit up.



Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: darkslideoftheforce on March 31, 2014, 11:42:46 AM
i always hear the skate 3 didnt sell bullshit, but i broke my old copy and had to buy another one last year. the one i bought was a 'classics' edition or something though, which doesnt make sense.

Skate 3 is STILL one of the best selling games at gamestop.
Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: Guile on April 02, 2014, 10:05:13 AM
Let's get a petition going! Share on here, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, tumblr, the berrics, etc. we'll have enough signatures to get this shit by next Christmas.
Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: Choad Muskrat on April 02, 2014, 12:00:52 PM
but I'm just so lazy
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Post by: Doctor Steeze on April 04, 2014, 12:13:47 AM
Just bombard https://twitter.com/petermooreEA with tweets :)
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Post by: dillanharp on April 04, 2014, 01:21:08 AM
Let's get a petition going! Share on here, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, tumblr, the berrics, etc. we'll have enough signatures to get this shit by next Christmas.

We couldn't even get a petition going condemning screwdriver rape...
http://www.change.org/petitions/steve-berra-suspend-chase-gabor-and-publicly-acknowledge-what-he-did-was-wrong (http://www.change.org/petitions/steve-berra-suspend-chase-gabor-and-publicly-acknowledge-what-he-did-was-wrong)
Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: Monkey_Mcpott on April 04, 2014, 01:47:16 AM
Maybe its to get kids actually out there skating instead of pretending to skate in a vidya game.
Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: ben shraider on April 05, 2014, 04:16:24 AM
Tony said he's doing a new game in some interview recently...

And I'd be surprised if there's no plans for a streetleague game.

Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: pancake man on April 09, 2014, 05:39:33 PM
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i always hear the skate 3 didnt sell bullshit, but i broke my old copy and had to buy another one last year. the one i bought was a 'classics' edition or something though, which doesnt make sense.
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Eh?? I've went through 3 or 4 copies of skate 3 because i'll literally play until the disc wont work anymore. Also, almost everyone I know who owns a ps3/xbox360 has, or has had a copy of skate 3.
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Yeah, same, but then again most of my friends are skaters or have interest in skate culture or have been influenced by me.

I agree that skateboarding is still a niche audience. And that sometimes the skate world feels bigger to me than it actually is, because I surround myself with skaters and and videos and go to skate websites and follow everything about it.

EA's skate sales are only impressive in that they are very good "for a niche subset". Not impressive in general. I think this is slowly changing, and that mainstream and skating are really starting to mesh more than ever before. But even in 2010, when Skate 3 came out, skating was relatively unknown as a culture the way it is seen today. Skate 1 and 2 even much much more so.

wait, has it really been 4 years since this game came out? Holy shit...
Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: planman on April 17, 2014, 09:25:18 AM
There's this guy who was on the original EA skate team ANC now he's trying to make realistic game even more so than any of the Skate games. http://www.projectblank.org/ (http://www.projectblank.org/)
Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: Hash Slinging Slasher on April 17, 2014, 11:16:01 AM
There's this guy who was on the original EA skate team ANC now he's trying to make realistic game even more so than any of the Skate games. http://www.projectblank.org/ (http://www.projectblank.org/)
There's hope!!!!!! The only shitty part for me is I don't play any video games anymore aside from skate, so I really don't want to have to buy a new console just to play one game
Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: CossRooper on April 21, 2014, 10:45:00 PM
There's this guy who was on the original EA skate team ANC now he's trying to make realistic game even more so than any of the Skate games. http://www.projectblank.org/ (http://www.projectblank.org/)

That shit just MADE MY MONTH dude holy shit. He seems to have the mindset of making it even more toned down and physics-based than EA Skate! Holy.
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Post by: foureyedjim on April 25, 2014, 03:55:37 PM
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There's this guy who was on the original EA skate team ANC now he's trying to make realistic game even more so than any of the Skate games. http://www.projectblank.org/ (http://www.projectblank.org/)
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That shit just MADE MY MONTH dude holy shit. He seems to have the mindset of making it even more toned down and physics-based than EA Skate! Holy.

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Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: ice nine on April 25, 2014, 04:59:50 PM
how can one guy make a game though? the level alone would take years to create, if its gonna be any good. and its gonna be on next gen consoles? i dont get it.
Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: Shazamsung on April 25, 2014, 05:21:13 PM
It wouldn't be too difficult to get a small team together, maybe some buddies who wanna do something in their spare time. Maybe do a kickstarter thing. Wouldn't even have to be a full game. Just a basic one or two cities, and new DLC of cities as they finish them. Totally totally plausible.

Hopefully he follows through.
Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: Tenterhooks on April 26, 2014, 09:52:45 AM
Hell, even if he could make something playable that was just a small area with a rail, a kicker and a manual pad, it looks like it'd be fun to play around with. I'd pay the price of a regular game for a download without a second thought.
Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: Choad Muskrat on April 28, 2014, 09:19:06 AM
Hell, even if he could make something playable that was just a small area with a rail, a kicker and a manual pad, it looks like it'd be fun to play around with. I'd pay the price of a regular game for a download without a second thought.

you would pay 50-60$ for a beta of a game that is basically a crappy demo?

you must be rich or crazy
Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: Sleazy on April 28, 2014, 09:37:08 AM
how can one guy make a game though? the level alone would take years to create, if its gonna be any good. and its gonna be on next gen consoles? i dont get it.

he's most likely just trying to build an mvp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product) that he can pitch and get funded with. he's working through the core features that he will be able to claim will have enough marketing appeal to make the game worth building so that investors will give him the cash to do it proper.
Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: DeputyDoses on April 28, 2014, 10:55:52 PM
There's this guy who was on the original EA skate team ANC now he's trying to make realistic game even more so than any of the Skate games. http://www.projectblank.org/ (http://www.projectblank.org/)
That's absolutely incredible. It's very humbling to see how devoted that this guy really is to skateboarding and designing a game that resembles the physics and mechanics of skateboarding.

I hope that everything all goes through and that it does become fully developed. I'd love to play it.
Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: Mooley on April 30, 2014, 09:37:38 PM
I looked at the few posts on his forum, for only putting in about 8hrs of work every weekend things are coming along quite well.

It's a shame that he's probably like 3 years away from an actual game, even if he gets funding. Hopefully once he has skater animations and a more complete proof of concept he can launch a kickstarter or something. We're all getting pretty hungry for a new skate game.
Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: Pavementi on June 03, 2014, 11:15:06 PM
i always hear the skate 3 didnt sell bullshit, but i broke my old copy and had to buy another one last year. the one i bought was a 'classics' edition or something though, which doesnt make sense.
Almost 2 million copies worldwide. Better than skate 2, which sold just over 1 million copies, and skate which sold 700K copies.

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/39125/skate-3/ (http://www.vgchartz.com/game/39125/skate-3/)
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/27534/skate-2/ (http://www.vgchartz.com/game/27534/skate-2/)
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/6987/skate/ (http://www.vgchartz.com/game/6987/skate/)
Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: @thewilleasley on June 03, 2014, 11:32:20 PM
Im certain we will get a next-gen skateboarding sim EVENTUALLY. Lots of developers have been quietly at work so who knows whats coming out down the pipeline? we might even get a reveal at this years E3 if we're lucky. I already know another Tony Hawk game has been confirmed but who knows what direction they'll go with it. I know the last few ones didn't sell well & the old-school remake was successful so id imagine they'll probably step away from that motion shit & go back to the more core gameplay. hell, bird man might've wisened up and asked for a whole new sim himself so who knows.
Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: formeitscrazylike on June 04, 2014, 06:05:25 AM
I dunno man. I'm sure there will be another THPS game, but I'm positive it will suck.
Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: Stoop Kid 2.0 on June 07, 2014, 05:47:39 AM
Skate 3 didn't sell as well as expected. They then pulled the plug on the Skate video game team. I really wish for a new Tony Hawk game they would get the guys who designed the skate games to make it. Same skate controls and all. Less bam and corny mascots.
Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: ben shraider on June 07, 2014, 08:37:49 AM
Im certain we will get a next-gen skateboarding sim EVENTUALLY. Lots of developers have been quietly at work so who knows whats coming out down the pipeline? we might even get a reveal at this years E3 if we're lucky. I already know another Tony Hawk game has been confirmed but who knows what direction they'll go with it. I know the last few ones didn't sell well & the old-school remake was successful so id imagine they'll probably step away from that motion shit & go back to the more core gameplay. hell, bird man might've wisened up and asked for a whole new sim himself so who knows.

I guess it's just an iphone game

http://instagram.com/p/oliiGvLHnM/ (http://instagram.com/p/oliiGvLHnM/)
Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: Albatross on June 09, 2014, 05:38:51 PM
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Im certain we will get a next-gen skateboarding sim EVENTUALLY. Lots of developers have been quietly at work so who knows whats coming out down the pipeline? we might even get a reveal at this years E3 if we're lucky. I already know another Tony Hawk game has been confirmed but who knows what direction they'll go with it. I know the last few ones didn't sell well & the old-school remake was successful so id imagine they'll probably step away from that motion shit & go back to the more core gameplay. hell, bird man might've wisened up and asked for a whole new sim himself so who knows.
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I guess it's just an iphone game

http://instagram.com/p/oliiGvLHnM/ (http://instagram.com/p/oliiGvLHnM/)


after the varial flip roast beef nosegrab there should have been a clip of a 40 something game dev nodding his head and smiling
Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: brarbra on June 29, 2014, 09:54:12 AM
Just because you haven't heard or read news about it doesn't mean it won't happen. Big publishers have R&D departments and some companies don't leak anything unless they want to. There's a lot of legal stuff to deal with too as far as branding, plus they have to get Monster, Nike and Mountain Dew to sign on because they own a percentage of mainstream skateboarding.
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Post by: ThugWaffle on July 02, 2014, 05:08:35 PM
plus they have to get Monster, Nike and Mountain Dew to sign on because they own a percentage of mainstream skateboarding.

What? Mainstream is a term, not a solid thing that people can buy shares from.
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Post by: formeitscrazylike on July 03, 2014, 09:13:25 AM
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plus they have to get Monster, Nike and Mountain Dew to sign on because they own a percentage of mainstream skateboarding.
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What? Mainstream is a term, not a solid thing that people can buy shares from.

It was a joke, dummy
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Post by: Spitfire4life on August 28, 2014, 04:39:16 PM
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plus they have to get Monster, Nike and Mountain Dew to sign on because they own a percentage of mainstream skateboarding.
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What? Mainstream is a term, not a solid thing that people can buy shares from.

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Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: ice nine on August 28, 2014, 04:50:56 PM
^ur replying to an almost 2 month old post. plus I'm sure he got it and was just argueing semantics
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Post by: shit_for_brains on August 29, 2014, 10:46:15 PM
Since I guess this thread came off life support, some of you may be pleased to know that the control system from the EA series is not owned by EA, it was just licensed from the guy who came up with it so those controls could definitely be used for another game.
Title: Re: How is there no plans for a skate video game on next gen consoles?
Post by: Bloody Matt on August 30, 2014, 12:48:52 AM
YEAH! HOW?!!
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Post by: tortfeasor on September 10, 2014, 09:20:50 AM
so i heard a rumor that skate 4 was supposed to be announced at pax prime accept prior to the event skate 3 got back in the top 20 selling games.  in fact they are reprinting skate 3 because of the high demand (this never happens.... ever)
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2014/08/ea-has-started-reprinting-copies-of-skate-3-because-of-pewdiepie/ (http://www.kotaku.com.au/2014/08/ea-has-started-reprinting-copies-of-skate-3-because-of-pewdiepie/)




it would seem as long as skate 3 still continues to sell they will be no skate 4...
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Post by: tobey on September 11, 2014, 11:56:30 PM
so i heard a rumor that skate 4 was supposed to be announced at pax prime accept prior to the event skate 3 got back in the top 20 selling games.  in fact they are reprinting skate 3 because of the high demand (this never happens.... ever)
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2014/08/ea-has-started-reprinting-copies-of-skate-3-because-of-pewdiepie/ (http://www.kotaku.com.au/2014/08/ea-has-started-reprinting-copies-of-skate-3-because-of-pewdiepie/)




it would seem as long as skate 3 still continues to sell they will be no skate 4...


the one thing pewdiepie did right with his youtube channel, he still sucks though
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Post by: MF on September 12, 2014, 12:24:42 AM
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so i heard a rumor that skate 4 was supposed to be announced at pax prime accept prior to the event skate 3 got back in the top 20 selling games.  in fact they are reprinting skate 3 because of the high demand (this never happens.... ever)
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2014/08/ea-has-started-reprinting-copies-of-skate-3-because-of-pewdiepie/ (http://www.kotaku.com.au/2014/08/ea-has-started-reprinting-copies-of-skate-3-because-of-pewdiepie/)




it would seem as long as skate 3 still continues to sell they will be no skate 4...

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the one thing pewdiepie did right with his youtube channel, he still sucks though