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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: YO MAMA on May 23, 2014, 08:10:16 PM
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Dwindle Distribution is going to be the new home of Zero and Fallen.
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Black Box sales had fallen to almost zero, now their reputation is gonna dwindle even further
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at least the mystery is solved, and the chief can find his new balance
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too punny.
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All this wordplay is Almost too Cliche to Enjoi......
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haha i feel much better about not giving a shit about that tom k interview after reading this "news"
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i guess it's a Tensor situation than they're letting on
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tired of fools who think they are welcome to shake junt out of their sausage and post it on here without any heavy proof. their krooked asses might as well do herion and huf their girls chocolate fury.
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This New Deal just might work. Starting on a new, solid Foundation.
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tired of fools who think they are welcome to shake junt out of their sausage and post it on here without any heavy proof. their krooked asses might as well do herion and huf their girls chocolate fury.
duffs
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I Think that was their Plan B, which is Fucking Awesome.
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wouldn't surprise me.. i've never bought a zero or fallen shoes and i've bought a lot of shit.
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Can't be king of the World if you're $lave to the grind.
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^^^ hahahaha yes!.....love the skid row reference.
fuck i lol'd at some of the epic pun's in this thread.
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you guys are not being fucking awesome. this thread is lame.
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pics or it didn't happen.
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Don't need any pics, Roger confirmed it.
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tsss tsss yeah dwindle more like "d-lose-dle" tsss tss
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a friend of mine knows a black box rider and he told me almost a year ago that fallen was going to become a k mart brand like world did. forgot about it til now but time will tell
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Make no Bones about it, Jamie has a Vision. I'm sure this dust will settle Real soon.
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Heard Jamie is a Selfish Bitch and his Girl makes him Spitfire by fingering his Chocolate.
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These puns are awful.
Is this news true? Because I can totally see it being true.
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how many brands is too many for dwindle? pretty big leap of faith on jamie's part.
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ISUCK's zeros have dwindled into another habitat or something
uh huh huh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9eAzb-Yuzw#)
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Darkstar
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I have zero faith in the rumor this misled youth is spreading. I don't see Jamie selling off Zero before the rest of the companies.
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Gee whiz, they better act fast before A Happy Medium Skateboards.
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Heard Jamie is a Selfish Bitch and his Girl makes him Spitfire by fingering his Chocolate.
hilarious
Is Bitch the new soft goods line outta BB?
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tsss tsss yeah dwindle more like "d-lose-dle" tsss tss
HOMERUN COCK SUCKAS
this guys fukin good
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I just hope that after Jamie gives a good verbal beating to his riders when they fuck up a handrail, that Rodney is there to let them down easy.
"Permission to rip, sir?"
"Sure, yea, no problem, just enjoy the physics" - Rodney
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It sounds like Zero is Dying To Live. What a Strange World we live in. Maybe this change will give both companies New Blood to Ride The Sky....... Promo
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Zero is a bag of suck
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Zero fucks given
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Zero fucks given
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DSM decks are good as fuck, the resin 8 boards are strong as hell. The shapes are funky you either love it or hate it
I approve this move by JT
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DSM decks are good as fuck, the resin 8 boards are strong as hell. The shapes are funky you either love it or hate it
I approve this move by JT
Well thank fuck you approve it, I'm sure the chief has been shitting himself.
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Heard Jamie is a Selfish Bitch and his Girl makes him Spitfire by fingering his Chocolate.
hilarious
Is Bitch the new soft goods line outta BB?
Bitch was Sal Rocco's response to the creation of girl, I think.
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Heard Jamie is a Selfish Bitch and his Girl makes him Spitfire by fingering his Chocolate.
hilarious
Is Bitch the new soft goods line outta BB?
Bitch was Sal Rocco's response to the creation of girl, I think.
Yea it was. Bitch was supposed to be a joke brand too, but turned out to be really popular in Japan.
Then it just kind of died of.
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it is sure a cold war in the industry nowadays
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jart
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Not for nothing, but I got an Enjoi submerged in water and it skated fine for a couple weeks after that, they're not that bad.
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I just hope that after Jamie gives a good verbal beating to his riders when they fuck up a handrail, that Rodney is there to let them down easy.
"Permission to rip, sir?"
"Sure, yea, no problem, just enjoi the physics" - Rodney
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Not for nothing, but I got an Enjoi submerged in water and it skated fine for a couple weeks after that, they're not that bad.
I don't get it ???
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haha, funny thread
as I mentioned previously, we're restructuring black box and considering all of our options for the future of the brands.
i've spoken with several distribution companies and potential partners, but at this point, all it has been is talk
that sounds like politician shit, but true. change is imperative even if we stay independent; small crew, small overhead, back to the basics
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Dwindle Distribution confirmed.
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Dwindle Distribution confirmed.
Shhhh... You'll frighten him off like the Gipper did when he was mean to him.
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that sounds like politician shit, but true. change is imperative even if we stay (http://static.tumblr.com/dioe6ab/tPNlw4jx1/indy-blog-logo.png); small crew, small overhead, back to the basics
nice pun :-D
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haha, funny thread
as I mentioned previously, we're restructuring black box and considering all of our options for the future of the brands.
i've spoken with several distribution companies and potential partners, but at this point, all it has been is talk
that sounds like politician shit, but true. change is imperative even if we stay independent; small crew, small overhead, back to the basics
thanks for the insight. it really does add so much to the forum. what are you hoping to happen, obviously aside from sales picking up and keeping it the same?
also you mentioned politics: considering youre one of the few in the open: do you guys/other companies tell your skaters/employees/reps to keep off the boards as posters?
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haha, funny thread
as I mentioned previously, we're restructuring black box and considering all of our options for the future of the brands.
i've spoken with several distribution companies and potential partners, but at this point, all it has been is talk
that sounds like politician shit, but true. change is imperative even if we stay independent; small crew, small overhead, back to the basics
heres the problem as i am sure you are aware. Your brand started off as one thing. Which was dudes going huge, heavy metal, rock and roll single bangers skulls and black and white headbands with lynard skynard jeans. Now skateboarding is going the hipster/artist route. you even changed up your style with the hair and the outfit etc... so now what do you do? you are in the middle of two POLAR (thats for the nerds) opposite camps. You have the money money street league mass appeal and you have the "core" companies that unfortunately are hipster as fuck. So what do you do? obviously you want to make money but youre afraid if you went too far to the mass appeal would lose street cred ala Jason Dill enthroned in unholy judgement but still ally yourself to Berra knowing that the dude you were when you were younger might have thought he was a douche. Whether or not you would have is irrelevant but, it is hard for skaters to see your brand as something inspired and legit. so the question is, are you inspired still? if so by what? if you are simply trying to stay afloat and/or even get some real capital dividends, that will shine through and people wont care. if you are still genuinely motivated by skateboarding, let that shine through, change everything that is simply a reflection of who you were and hang on to what you actually care about. skateboarders care more about feeling like they are part of something genuine. if you dont have that passion, sell your shit and peace out.
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haha, funny thread
as I mentioned previously, we're restructuring black box and considering all of our options for the future of the brands.
i've spoken with several distribution companies and potential partners, but at this point, all it has been is talk
that sounds like politician shit, but true. change is imperative even if we stay independent; small crew, small overhead, back to the basics
Hey Jimmy
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haha, funny thread
as I mentioned previously, we're restructuring black box and considering all of our options for the future of the brands.
i've spoken with several distribution companies and potential partners, but at this point, all it has been is talk
that sounds like politician shit, but true. change is imperative even if we stay independent; small crew, small overhead, back to the basics
heres the problem as i am sure you are aware. Your brand started off as one thing. Which was dudes going huge, heavy metal, rock and roll single bangers skulls and black and white headbands with lynard skynard jeans. Now skateboarding is going the hipster/artist route. you even changed up your style with the hair and the outfit etc... so now what do you do? you are in the middle of two POLAR (thats for the nerds) opposite camps. You have the money money street league mass appeal and you have the "core" companies that unfortunately are hipster as fuck. So what do you do? obviously you want to make money but youre afraid if you went too far to the mass appeal would lose street cred ala Jason Dill enthroned in unholy judgement but still ally yourself to Berra knowing that the dude you were when you were younger might have thought he was a douche. Whether or not you would have is irrelevant but, it is hard for skaters to see your brand as something inspired and legit. so the question is, are you inspired still? if so by what? if you are simply trying to stay afloat and/or even get some real capital dividends, that will shine through and people wont care. if you are still genuinely motivated by skateboarding, let that shine through, change everything that is simply a reflection of who you were and hang on to what you actually care about. skateboarders care more about feeling like they are part of something genuine. if you dont have that passion, sell your shit and peace out.
You should probably send him a consultation invoice, pretty insightful post.
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haha, funny thread
as I mentioned previously, we're restructuring black box and considering all of our options for the future of the brands.
i've spoken with several distribution companies and potential partners, but at this point, all it has been is talk
that sounds like politician shit, but true. change is imperative even if we stay independent; small crew, small overhead, back to the basics
heres the problem as i am sure you are aware. Your brand started off as one thing. Which was dudes going huge, heavy metal, rock and roll single bangers skulls and black and white headbands with lynard skynard jeans. Now skateboarding is going the hipster/artist route. you even changed up your style with the hair and the outfit etc... so now what do you do? you are in the middle of two POLAR (thats for the nerds) opposite camps. You have the money money street league mass appeal and you have the "core" companies that unfortunately are hipster as fuck. So what do you do? obviously you want to make money but youre afraid if you went too far to the mass appeal would lose street cred ala Jason Dill enthroned in unholy judgement but still ally yourself to Berra knowing that the dude you were when you were younger might have thought he was a douche. Whether or not you would have is irrelevant but, it is hard for skaters to see your brand as something inspired and legit. so the question is, are you inspired still? if so by what? if you are simply trying to stay afloat and/or even get some real capital dividends, that will shine through and people wont care. if you are still genuinely motivated by skateboarding, let that shine through, change everything that is simply a reflection of who you were and hang on to what you actually care about. skateboarders care more about feeling like they are part of something genuine. if you dont have that passion, sell your shit and peace out.
I thought it was boring, self-important wank
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haha, funny thread
as I mentioned previously, we're restructuring black box and considering all of our options for the future of the brands.
i've spoken with several distribution companies and potential partners, but at this point, all it has been is talk
that sounds like politician shit, but true. change is imperative even if we stay independent; small crew, small overhead, back to the basics
heres the problem as i am sure you are aware. Your brand started off as one thing. Which was dudes going huge, heavy metal, rock and roll single bangers skulls and black and white headbands with lynard skynard jeans. Now skateboarding is going the hipster/artist route. you even changed up your style with the hair and the outfit etc... so now what do you do? you are in the middle of two POLAR (thats for the nerds) opposite camps. You have the money money street league mass appeal and you have the "core" companies that unfortunately are hipster as fuck. So what do you do? obviously you want to make money but youre afraid if you went too far to the mass appeal would lose street cred ala Jason Dill enthroned in unholy judgement but still ally yourself to Berra knowing that the dude you were when you were younger might have thought he was a douche. Whether or not you would have is irrelevant but, it is hard for skaters to see your brand as something inspired and legit. so the question is, are you inspired still? if so by what? if you are simply trying to stay afloat and/or even get some real capital dividends, that will shine through and people wont care. if you are still genuinely motivated by skateboarding, let that shine through, change everything that is simply a reflection of who you were and hang on to what you actually care about. skateboarders care more about feeling like they are part of something genuine. if you dont have that passion, sell your shit and peace out.
Things change over 15+ years, jean sizes included. Dylan is in Street League, so FA is money money street league right? Not sure anyone should be doubting iSucks passion or inspiration, he still seems to be putting in.
Anyway reading between the lines, things at BB sound pretty dire to me.
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haha, funny thread
as I mentioned previously, we're restructuring black box and considering all of our options for the future of the brands.
i've spoken with several distribution companies and potential partners, but at this point, all it has been is talk
that sounds like politician shit, but true. change is imperative even if we stay independent; small crew, small overhead, back to the basics
heres the problem as i am sure you are aware. Your brand started off as one thing. Which was dudes going huge, heavy metal, rock and roll single bangers skulls and black and white headbands with lynard skynard jeans. Now skateboarding is going the hipster/artist route. you even changed up your style with the hair and the outfit etc... so now what do you do? you are in the middle of two POLAR (thats for the nerds) opposite camps. You have the money money street league mass appeal and you have the "core" companies that unfortunately are hipster as fuck. So what do you do? obviously you want to make money but youre afraid if you went too far to the mass appeal would lose street cred ala Jason Dill enthroned in unholy judgement but still ally yourself to Berra knowing that the dude you were when you were younger might have thought he was a douche. Whether or not you would have is irrelevant but, it is hard for skaters to see your brand as something inspired and legit. so the question is, are you inspired still? if so by what? if you are simply trying to stay afloat and/or even get some real capital dividends, that will shine through and people wont care. if you are still genuinely motivated by skateboarding, let that shine through, change everything that is simply a reflection of who you were and hang on to what you actually care about. skateboarders care more about feeling like they are part of something genuine. if you dont have that passion, sell your shit and peace out.
I agree with this hugely.
When I was younger, I loved Zero. I loved Zero because it fit with the music and style I liked, and I thought that I was genuinely a part of something.
Now, I don't see Zero, or any of the Blackbox brands, having any genuine vision or following. To me, it's just another company to get a deck, and Fallen is just another company to buy some shoes. Given the chance, I won't by them, because I don't feel that the brand reflects me, or anything I admire.
But, the brand once did. So Zero and the other Blackbox brands have something in the past, and it's a matter of whether you can resurrect, or recreate, the value you once had.
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haha, funny thread
as I mentioned previously, we're restructuring black box and considering all of our options for the future of the brands.
i've spoken with several distribution companies and potential partners, but at this point, all it has been is talk
that sounds like politician shit, but true. change is imperative even if we stay independent; small crew, small overhead, back to the basics
heres the problem as i am sure you are aware. Your brand started off as one thing. Which was dudes going huge, heavy metal, rock and roll single bangers skulls and black and white headbands with lynard skynard jeans. Now skateboarding is going the hipster/artist route. you even changed up your style with the hair and the outfit etc... so now what do you do? you are in the middle of two POLAR (thats for the nerds) opposite camps. You have the money money street league mass appeal and you have the "core" companies that unfortunately are hipster as fuck. So what do you do? obviously you want to make money but youre afraid if you went too far to the mass appeal would lose street cred ala Jason Dill enthroned in unholy judgement but still ally yourself to Berra knowing that the dude you were when you were younger might have thought he was a douche. Whether or not you would have is irrelevant but, it is hard for skaters to see your brand as something inspired and legit. so the question is, are you inspired still? if so by what? if you are simply trying to stay afloat and/or even get some real capital dividends, that will shine through and people wont care. if you are still genuinely motivated by skateboarding, let that shine through, change everything that is simply a reflection of who you were and hang on to what you actually care about. skateboarders care more about feeling like they are part of something genuine. if you dont have that passion, sell your shit and peace out.
I agree with this hugely.
When I was younger, I loved Zero. I loved Zero because it fit with the music and style I liked, and I thought that I was genuinely a part of something.
Now, I don't see Zero, or any of the Blackbox brands, having any genuine vision or following. To me, it's just another company to get a deck, and Fallen is just another company to buy some shoes. Given the chance, I won't by them, because I don't feel that the brand reflects me, or anything I admire.
But, the brand once did. So Zero and the other Blackbox brands have something in the past, and it's a matter of whether you can resurrect, or recreate, the value you once had.
This thread is about making terrible puns about a possible change of Zero's distribution.
Please stop stinking it up.
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haha, funny thread
as I mentioned previously, we're restructuring black box and considering all of our options for the future of the brands.
i've spoken with several distribution companies and potential partners, but at this point, all it has been is talk
that sounds like politician shit, but true. change is imperative even if we stay independent; small crew, small overhead, back to the basics
heres the problem as i am sure you are aware. Your brand started off as one thing. Which was dudes going huge, heavy metal, rock and roll single bangers skulls and black and white headbands with lynard skynard jeans. Now skateboarding is going the hipster/artist route. you even changed up your style with the hair and the outfit etc... so now what do you do? you are in the middle of two POLAR (thats for the nerds) opposite camps. You have the money money street league mass appeal and you have the "core" companies that unfortunately are hipster as fuck. So what do you do? obviously you want to make money but youre afraid if you went too far to the mass appeal would lose street cred ala Jason Dill enthroned in unholy judgement but still ally yourself to Berra knowing that the dude you were when you were younger might have thought he was a douche. Whether or not you would have is irrelevant but, it is hard for skaters to see your brand as something inspired and legit. so the question is, are you inspired still? if so by what? if you are simply trying to stay afloat and/or even get some real capital dividends, that will shine through and people wont care. if you are still genuinely motivated by skateboarding, let that shine through, change everything that is simply a reflection of who you were and hang on to what you actually care about. skateboarders care more about feeling like they are part of something genuine. if you dont have that passion, sell your shit and peace out.
I agree with this hugely.
When I was younger, I loved Zero. I loved Zero because it fit with the music and style I liked, and I thought that I was genuinely a part of something.
Now, I don't see Zero, or any of the Blackbox brands, having any genuine vision or following. To me, it's just another company to get a deck, and Fallen is just another company to buy some shoes. Given the chance, I won't by them, because I don't feel that the brand reflects me, or anything I admire.
But, the brand once did. So Zero and the other Blackbox brands have something in the past, and it's a matter of whether you can resurrect, or recreate, the value you once had.
This thread is about making terrible puns about a possible change of Zero's distribution.
Please stop stinking it up.
you obviously didnt read the whole thing because of your short attention span.
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haha, funny thread
as I mentioned previously, we're restructuring black box and considering all of our options for the future of the brands.
i've spoken with several distribution companies and potential partners, but at this point, all it has been is talk
that sounds like politician shit, but true. change is imperative even if we stay independent; small crew, small overhead, back to the basics
heres the problem as i am sure you are aware. Your brand started off as one thing. Which was dudes going huge, heavy metal, rock and roll single bangers skulls and black and white headbands with lynard skynard jeans. Now skateboarding is going the hipster/artist route. you even changed up your style with the hair and the outfit etc... so now what do you do? you are in the middle of two POLAR (thats for the nerds) opposite camps. You have the money money street league mass appeal and you have the "core" companies that unfortunately are hipster as fuck. So what do you do? obviously you want to make money but youre afraid if you went too far to the mass appeal would lose street cred ala Jason Dill enthroned in unholy judgement but still ally yourself to Berra knowing that the dude you were when you were younger might have thought he was a douche. Whether or not you would have is irrelevant but, it is hard for skaters to see your brand as something inspired and legit. so the question is, are you inspired still? if so by what? if you are simply trying to stay afloat and/or even get some real capital dividends, that will shine through and people wont care. if you are still genuinely motivated by skateboarding, let that shine through, change everything that is simply a reflection of who you were and hang on to what you actually care about. skateboarders care more about feeling like they are part of something genuine. if you dont have that passion, sell your shit and peace out.
I agree with this hugely.
When I was younger, I loved Zero. I loved Zero because it fit with the music and style I liked, and I thought that I was genuinely a part of something.
Now, I don't see Zero, or any of the Blackbox brands, having any genuine vision or following. To me, it's just another company to get a deck, and Fallen is just another company to buy some shoes. Given the chance, I won't by them, because I don't feel that the brand reflects me, or anything I admire.
But, the brand once did. So Zero and the other Blackbox brands have something in the past, and it's a matter of whether you can resurrect, or recreate, the value you once had.
This thread is about making terrible puns about a possible change of Zero's distribution.
Please stop stinking it up.
you obviously didnt read the whole thing because of your short attention span.
Unfortunately I did.
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I won't buy them, because I don't feel that the brand reflects me, or anything I admire.
i feel like this is the problem there aren't enough people that relate to the rocker/punk attitude anymore, zero was what my brother rode when he was 15 14 and he's 24 now, my generation doesn't listen to punk rock and they don't relate to the culture
it may be a cliche but i enjoi other brands like polar (there i made a shitty pun are you all happy?)
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I won't buy them, because I don't feel that the brand reflects me, or anything I admire.
i feel like this is the problem there aren't enough people that relate to the rocker/punk attitude anymore, zero was what my brother rode when he was 15 14 and he's 24 now, my generation doesn't listen to punk rock and they don't relate to the culture
it may be a cliche but i enjoi other brands like polar (there i made a shitty pun are you all happy?)
No.
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Could try harder.
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Well, I see his point.
skating is a world industry, and it needs to get consolidate ideas & flip with the times.
Otherwise its adio. Go back to the birdhouse and baker cake or something
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sure there's a lot of hipster shit going on right now, but there's always going to be a punk/diy vibe to skate. Welcome, Creature, Anti Hero...there's something there that is not fuccboi "hip" its a little more raw and these are from some of the more popular brands right now.
the issue was the black box brands were so engrained with a look of the team almost more than a vibe for the brand. it became somewhat comical with everyones jeans and flair. that needed to managed better. it jumped the fashion shark.
zero has all the opportunity to come back today with something raw and still well rounded.
how did all the shep dawgs grow up in black box back yard and not one is zero or fallen? how is there no brixton riders on zero?
the north county san diego scene is very tight, yet black box def was on the outside looking in on everything that was blooming.
dolan stearns and kirby would have been a nice first couple of steps. look what sinclair is doing with all the foundation ams...that is going to be back in the mix in less than a year. hes helping dekline's image as well with same group of kids.
its zero and fallen. they need to be in skate. just needs to let the past go and redefine them for the present.
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its zero and fallen. they need to be in skate. just needs to let the past go and redefine them for the present.
This idea confuses me. Why does Zero need to be in skateboarding any more than World, Adio, or any number of companies past?
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zero just need to be by the hammer, for the hammer, and fill their videos with awesome metal and 60s and 70s shit again. its still only one video away from being a relevant brand again. hoffart and crew were determined to make powell - fun! to make a great video and they did. zero can do that too. add a couple heavy skaters on top and you got yourselves a brand again.
when you start using young jeezy songs and talk about seeing the stuff in between the skating you're losing yourself to trends and not keeping zero focused on what its always done best: getting buck. why was tom k on the team? why is a mediocre skater like josiah gatlyn getting a chance to be on zero? why hasn't zero put a slam section in a video lately? their personalities aside, forest edwards and dane burman are zero. those dudes love getting broke off. thats the type of shit you want. not dudes half wishing to be on a trendy ass company.
one of the things i fear the most about current skating is that its slowly losing the diversity that made it so cool in the past. i hope zero doesn't die. it may seem standard but people don't know how to make a clean video anymore without fancy angles. theres still a big space open for zero.
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its zero and fallen. they need to be in skate. just needs to let the past go and redefine them for the present.
I actually think Cold War did an awesome job of presenting Zero of the Misled Youth era, but Frank Gerwers Nose is right. We have seen 101, World, Planet Earth and the original Stereo and Plan B teams die and now potentially Alien and Habitat. I'd be glad to see Jamie still make a good living off of skateboarding but sometimes good brands end because they are not in touch with new consumers.
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^^you dont have to be in touch with new consumers to be a really good brand. you just have to make your company as good as you possibly can under your own guidelines.
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^^you dont have to be in touch with new consumers to be a really good brand. you just have to make your company as good as you possibly can under your own guidelines.
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the problem in a nutshell is that most of the money in skateboarding comes from kids. if your brand aint cool no mo, youre done. I think there really is no hope. Skateboarding is a young game, thats why new companies work and older ones just fade out. Unless of course youre big in Japan.
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^^you dont have to be in touch with new consumers to be a really good brand. you just have to make your company as good as you possibly can under your own guidelines.
the problem in a nutshell is that most of the money in skateboarding comes from kids. if your brand aint cool no mo, youre done. I think there really is no hope. Skateboarding is a young game, thats why new companies work and older ones just fade out. Unless of course youre big in Japan.
the thing is kids dont really know what they like, you can sell a kid almost anything. its mostly on the company on how well they package their art direction and spread their brands message. zero has pretty much been half assing it for a really long time and they just stopped having a voice for some reason and started chasing trends. older companies dont have to fade out, they just have to give a shit.
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sure there's a lot of hipster shit going on right now, but there's always going to be a punk/diy vibe to skate. Welcome, Creature, Anti Hero...there's something there that is not fuccboi "hip" its a little more raw and these are from some of the more popular brands right now.
the issue was the black box brands were so engrained with a look of the team almost more than a vibe for the brand. it became somewhat comical with everyones jeans and flair. that needed to managed better. it jumped the fashion shark.
zero has all the opportunity to come back today with something raw and still well rounded.
how did all the shep dawgs grow up in black box back yard and not one is zero or fallen? how is there no brixton riders on zero?
the north county san diego scene is very tight, yet black box def was on the outside looking in on everything that was blooming.
dolan stearns and kirby would have been a nice first couple of steps. look what sinclair is doing with all the foundation ams...that is going to be back in the mix in less than a year. hes helping dekline's image as well with same group of kids.
its zero and fallen. they need to be in skate. just needs to let the past go and redefine them for the present.
Creature is the corniest shit ever. The 90s Creature was cool, but the new millennium fluorescent green Creature is ridiculous. I saw the whole team at the airport once and they looked like they were about to do a Moto-X demo at a rockabilly festival. Their haircuts were more manicured and styled with gel than any of the so called "fuccbois" everyone on here complains about. Navarette (who I am a fan of by the way) was wearing huge bright purple Dickies that looked like something a pop-punk Christian would wear to the mall. They were about as punk and DIY as Walgreen's.
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Say what you will about Zero's recent direction (or lack thereof) but Cold War was my favorite video of 2013. It was simple and gnarly with some heavy-ass parts. If they keep that up I'd be down to support Black Box.
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Zero is raw but it seems to lost that wide eye fire when they had 4 real guys on the team, it was sort of the American banner of getting it done with them regardless of glamour or snooty opinion.. I always got into it
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I liked cold war too....but that's the reason why they gotta change....as bad as it sounds....zero should get a whole lot cornier.....just to get them over this hump....I don't hear dgk is going out of business....
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^^you dont have to be in touch with new consumers to be a really good brand. you just have to make your company as good as you possibly can under your own guidelines.
the problem in a nutshell is that most of the money in skateboarding comes from kids. if your brand aint cool no mo, youre done. I think there really is no hope. Skateboarding is a young game, thats why new companies work and older ones just fade out. Unless of course youre big in Japan.
Most the kids i see skateboarding these days are riding shop boards so if that is where all of the money is, then it is no wonder all of these board brands are in trouble.
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I liked cold war too....but that's the reason why they gotta change....as bad as it sounds....zero should get a whole lot cornier.....just to get them over this hump....I don't hear dgk is going out of business....
I have a feeling DGK sells more clothing than any other board brand. While i don't like their stuff they have definitely found a way into mainstream clothing which they probably make a killing off of.
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haha, funny thread
gnar me/ kook me SEND ME A BOARD JAYME OR JAIME!
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sure there's a lot of hipster shit going on right now, but there's always going to be a punk/diy vibe to skate. Welcome, Creature, Anti Hero...there's something there that is not fuccboi "hip" its a little more raw and these are from some of the more popular brands right now.
Welcome has become pretty fucking hip actually.
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On the bright side they get a upgrade in the wood department.
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Zero boards use to be SOLID
I grew up riding them, and so did half my town.
I don't know where but the wood got less solid, maybe after dying to live?
To me Zero went bait gash when new blood came out, id didn't feel Zero to me any more.
The latest graphics have been done WELL no doubt, just a bit to greebo and too many nutty colours going on. As basic as the old graphics may of been, they stood out well.
Put Lopez back on, re-release the smith grind board in blue, and just shred to some rock n roll or slayer , not hip pop.
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Where in the midwest are you from?
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Upper wessssiiiiiiidddddddeeeeeee
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I agree with what a few posters before me said about zero's vibe shifting dramatically after 'dying to live' and during 'new blood', but skateboarding was going through a strange shift at the time too and you can't blame Jamie for trying to push the brand forward. plus, 'new blood' spawned some pretty heavy-hitters (hill, brockman, sandoval, cervantes).
cold war was fucking heavy, burman's approach to skateboarding is 100% zero.
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tsss tsss yeah dwindle more like "d-lose-dle" tsss tss
U made my day w/ this
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Hey I SUCK!
I hope this doesn't bum you out too much but I've always thought you're great.
I'd ask you out for a drink but I know you don't swing that way, so I'll just say props and I will never boycott your brand in a Chick-Fil-A kind of way. I promise not to sic the oncoming queer skate bro tidal wave on you guys either.
Your accidental friend,
GAY
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I Think Jamie is looking for a New Deal cause its harsh in the City.
Filament.
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I Think Jamie is looking for a New Deal cause its harsh in the City.
Filament.
Would said New Deal be shown on Television?
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Yeah, I feel kinda Blue about it.
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Geez Jamie, Welcome To Hell, your board brand is Dying To Live but you cannot stop following trends due to your Misled Youth, and basically you will have to make some decisions fast or it will be time to Chomp On This! At least the Thrill Of It All will be Reason to Believe that you now live in a Strange World.
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Jaime should call that dude on CNBC from The Profit to come in and do an overhaul. That'd be a damn good episode.
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Jaime should call that dude on CNBC from The Profit to come in and do an overhaul. That'd be a damn good episode.
Or that restaurant show with the hidden cameras...I'd love to see what hidden cameras at Black Box would catch!
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Geez Jamie, Welcome To Hell, your board brand is Dying To Live but you cannot stop following trends due to your Misled Youth, and basically you will have to make some decisions fast or it will be time to Chomp On This! At least the Thrill Of It All will be Reason to Believe that you now live in a Strange World.
nailed it
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Prime example of how dwindling profits can color your world-view. Economics 101, but still fuct.
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Jokes aside, I'd be bummed if this happened. Jamie spent his life building black box and to have it flounder into the Dwindle camp would be pretty sad. But times are tough for hardgoods and "core" shoe brands so...
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Skull Boy
(http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s646/skullboy14/SkullBoy_zpse6bb2e38.jpg) (http://s1310.photobucket.com/user/skullboy14/media/SkullBoy_zpse6bb2e38.jpg.html)
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Skull Boy
(http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s646/skullboy14/SkullBoy_zpse6bb2e38.jpg) (http://s1310.photobucket.com/user/skullboy14/media/SkullBoy_zpse6bb2e38.jpg.html)
Where did you come from mystery man?
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I enjoi when you rub my Whalecock with Chocolate, while a Girl watches me go Creature on a Primitive sex Toy Machine. That was my Fucking Awesome story about my Welcome into the Sk8 Mafia.
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Jamie Thomas Rough Footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKJyvTlwpH0&feature=youtube_gdata_player#)
Edit: release American zero boards please
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This Is
Skateboarding Pretty Sweet. Sweet skateboards! I wouldn't let one into my my Junkyard though..
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I enjoi when you rub my Whalecock with Chocolate, while a Girl watches me go Creature on a Primitive sex Toy Machine. That was my Fucking Awesome story about my Welcome into the Sk8 Mafia.
You spent solid time on that didn't you..