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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: McGooch on July 08, 2014, 10:27:38 PM
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Prod, Jamie Thomas, Christian Hosoi, Sierra Fellers, Brian Sumner, Lennie Kirk
I don't care if anyone is religious, but it bothers me when they bring it into skateboarding.
Kids are super impressionable. To me its the same as ARMY ads in skate mags, it doesn't belong.
And the Prod "THANK YOU GOD" when he wins contests, Bill said it best - "what your really saying is 'THANK YOU GOD... FOR MAKING MEEEEE!''
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Are you calling Lance Mountain lame?
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Prod, Jamie Thomas, Christian Hosoi, Sierra Fellers, Brian Sumner, Lennie Kirk
I don't care if anyone is religious, but it bothers me when they bring it into skateboarding.
Kids are super impressionable. To me its the same as ARMY ads in skate mags, it doesn't belong.
And the Prod "THANK YOU GOD" when he wins contests, Bill said it best - "what your really saying is 'THANK YOU GOD... FOR MAKING MEEEEE!''
Honestly, most of that stuff doesn't bother me. Especially people like P-rod, jamie, hosoi, etc. They don't really bring it into their skateboarding. If you ask them about their religious beliefs, they'll probably share and are open to share when asked, but won't force it upon others.
Brian Sumner is probably an exception because he seems to be pretty evangelical about his christianity. He'll do christian tours and things where he goes out and preaches and stuff. He did one many years ago in my town and I went to one. Nothing too crazy, just a skate demo and then went on to speak and pray and all that shit. I don't really see any harm in it. It's not hurting anybody, if he wants to do that, then its fine.
Plus you won't see people like jamie thomas or josh harmony even ever talking about it really unless specifically asked.
Religious pros are not lame at all. As long as their skating is in the forefront of what they do in the skate world, which is true in most cases, then I am totally fine with any religion any skater has.
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Is eternal salvation lame, mr. man?
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thou shalt not speak ill of leonard kirk.
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Honestly, most of that stuff doesn't bother me. Especially people like P-rod, jamie, hosoi, etc. They don't really bring it into their skateboarding. If you ask them about their religious beliefs, they'll probably share and are open to share when asked, but won't force it upon others.
Brian Sumner is probably an exception because he seems to be pretty evangelical about his christianity. He'll do christian tours and things where he goes out and preaches and stuff. He did one many years ago in my town and I went to one. Nothing too crazy, just a skate demo and then went on to speak and pray and all that shit. I don't really see any harm in it. It's not hurting anybody, if he wants to do that, then its fine.
Plus you won't see people like jamie thomas or josh harmony even ever talking about it really unless specifically asked.
Religious pros are not lame at all. As long as their skating is in the forefront of what they do in the skate world, which is true in most cases, then I am totally fine with any religion any skater has.
Google jamie thomas cross. Dozens of christian themed skate products.
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Jesus pushed mongo.
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Doesn't really bother me, but not going to lie, my opinion of anyone dips if I find out they are religious. The more you really think about religion, the more ridiculous it is on so many levels its hard to know where to begin. There have been over 2000 religions, all incompatible, and yet everyone thinks theirs is the one true version, without any evidence naturally.
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Honestly, most of that stuff doesn't bother me. Especially people like P-rod, jamie, hosoi, etc. They don't really bring it into their skateboarding. If you ask them about their religious beliefs, they'll probably share and are open to share when asked, but won't force it upon others.
Brian Sumner is probably an exception because he seems to be pretty evangelical about his christianity. He'll do christian tours and things where he goes out and preaches and stuff. He did one many years ago in my town and I went to one. Nothing too crazy, just a skate demo and then went on to speak and pray and all that shit. I don't really see any harm in it. It's not hurting anybody, if he wants to do that, then its fine.
Plus you won't see people like jamie thomas or josh harmony even ever talking about it really unless specifically asked.
Religious pros are not lame at all. As long as their skating is in the forefront of what they do in the skate world, which is true in most cases, then I am totally fine with any religion any skater has.
Google jamie thomas cross. Dozens of christian themed skate products.
yeah but that's not the same in my opinion. crosses are pretty broad imagery, I understand the jesus graphic he did was a little blunt but it wasn't like he was telling kids how to think or to become christian. Zero always has this skull and crossbones super gnar image so I always thought it was almost blasphemic to christianity when jamie came out with those considering the jesus image and zero image don't really coincide. Aside from some graphics, Zero is pretty much much all about skating which is pretty cool considering jamie runs the whole thing. Or at least did.
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Anytime I hear anyone talking about their religion I am instantly uninterested, if they start preaching I really don't want to hear it. Same goes for pro skaters. I'll happily watch them skate and that should be what they are about in the public eye but if they start going on about their religion, I'm out. I've seen a few videos like that from a few pro skaters and they may be well intentioned but they certainly err on the side of preaching and that's not cool at all. If they start preaching to kids through skateboarding I certainly start to lose some respect for them.
Honestly I had forgotten Jamie Thomas was religious at all because it never comes up, it's a personal thing and he keeps it that way and thats good.
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the obnoxious 'satan/666' attention seeking dudes are just as awful as the religious dudes.
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Anytime I hear anyone talking about their religion I am instantly uninterested, if they start preaching I really don't want to hear it.
This.
I'm all for religion as long as you arn't trying to force feed me it. Same goes for atheists for that matter because I don't see how it's any different, your just force feeding another person your beliefs.
the obnoxious 'satan/666' attention seeking dudes are just as awful as the religious dudes.
I also agree.
If Jamie Thomas wants to put a big picture of Jesus on his board than he can, it's what he believes in.
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the obnoxious 'satan/666' attention seeking dudes are just as awful as the religious dudes.
That too is a bit much. Not as awful though because the satan worshippers are joking while the god worshippers are serious to the point they deny science to justify bible.
Here's Sierra spouting off about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBjBz3I5DD4
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I don't care what people believe so long as they don't assume a stance of superiority based on their ideologies.
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Chad Tim Tim had one of those stupid christian skater videos and he's still cool. I think Ray Barbee did too.
The Christian Faith of Skateboarder Chad Tim Tim - CBN.com (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ifjwoztuz4#)
Religion hurts everyone all the time. Remember that when NASA gets denied funding, legislators make it harder to get an abortion, and homogays can't visit their significant other in the hospital on their death beds. Religion has many functions, many very positive. Religion served as comfort when we had no answers. It brought people together around a common belief. It has made masses rise to ideals greater than the self. The problem is I think at this juncture in human history, we need to put it down like the rabid dog it is because it does more harm than good.
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Can we include Berra or is this a Christian-only group?
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Can we include Berra or is this a Christian-only group?
I was going to address this in the topic, but didn't want to bring it up.
Are you calling Lance Mountain lame?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isU-tIIORyw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isU-tIIORyw)
No. But again, when you bring jesus into skateboarding, it's lame.
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Richard Jefferson is lame as fuck, total kook
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The type of "religion in skateboarding" that is being discussed here has always struck me as more of a west coast phenomenon. Not exclusively, but you not really gonna catch these skate churches and "worship & shred" type situations out east. I've always wondered about
Why that is. Sure there are plenty of east coast pros who will wear a cross on a chain or whatever, but it tends to be an artifact of upbringing (or style) rather than a deliberate religious stance.
I find religion interesting when faith is used as a tool to ask questions rather than answer them. If you've "got it all figured out" you're a fucking kook regardless of who you do (or don't) pray to.
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A large part of Christianity is spreading the word of God and helping others to find Jesus, so honestly if they never talked about it they wouldn't be true Christians.
I mean I don't see why you would criticize someone for their beliefs that's probably the lamest thing ever. You do understand that you were insinuating that Paul Rodriguez should not thank God after he wins a contest. What is wrong with you? Who cares what he does, what he beleives? Who are you to say that he is thanking God for himself? You've seen him pray into his hat before every trick, he beleives his faith in God is giving him the strength do what he's doing and who are you to say he's wrong? He's obviously had a successful life and career, he feels he is blessed and feels God/Jesus has blessed him, I guess you would just call it talent or luck but he doesn't therefore that's like the opposite of arrogance. Also if you're psyched on something and it's a big part of your life you're going to talk about it and it may end up on your board graphic one way of another and that goes for religion too.
Threads like this make me sick. Skateboarding is about individuality and freedom in the purest sense and that seems to be ok with you as long as it doesn't involve religion, namely Christianity. True practicing Christians are some of the nicest people you will meet, there are certainly more negative things to be into. For instance the Austyn 'coke' thread mostly has responses defending drug use or claiming "it's not big deal everyone does it" but when it's a thread about religion and Christianity everyone jumps in saying how lame it is and how this should stop. Do you see the issue I have here?
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How far do you want to take it ?
Snorting coke at the club once a month isnt really a big deal , but on the other side you have big drug lords giving people jobs to produce / smuggle narcotics to places , people being forced to cooperate , kidnappings , murders , drug wars where police , soldiers and civilians are dying .
But in away its still just snorting coke at the club
Going to church once a week isnt really a big deal , BUT !
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Can we include Berra or is this a Christian-only group?
I was going to address this in the topic, but didn't want to bring it up.
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Are you calling Lance Mountain lame?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isU-tIIORyw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isU-tIIORyw)
No. But again, when you bring jesus into skateboarding, it's lame.
You're not going to see this type of bullshit unless you seek it out. Slap feels like TMZ or some shit sometimes. Stop concerning yourself with pro's personal lives.
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I ve never met a religious person that is not lame. The problem is that religion tends to numb your brain because everything is god's will or god has his ways, so you dont have to think. I really hate it when I think that this kind of thinking in a large scale affects me through politics, many politicians get a free pass just because they preach god's will and all these sentimental bullshit and religious people accept it. Most poor conservatives are religious.
Christianism when first appeared wasnt like that, actually it was revolutionary and forward thinking. Actually what we have today is the christianism that was integrated into the system and became part of it centuries ago.
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Stop concerning yourself with pro's personal lives.
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Doesn't really bother me, but not going to lie, my opinion of anyone dips if I find out they are religious. The more you really think about religion, the more ridiculous it is on so many levels its hard to know where to begin. There have been over 2000 religions, all incompatible, and yet everyone thinks theirs is the one true version, without any evidence naturally.
I agree with this, I don't want to hate on people's beliefs but I really struggle with religon, it seems so crazy to me. People have no problem dismissing Scientology as ridiculous but I see all religon that way.
So yeah they go down a bit in my estimation, or I just thnk they are weird.
Lance never mention's it though that I have seen.
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Chad Tim Tim had one of those stupid christian skater videos and he's still cool. I think Ray Barbee did too.
The Christian Faith of Skateboarder Chad Tim Tim - CBN.com (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ifjwoztuz4#)
Religion hurts everyone all the time. Remember that when NASA gets denied funding, legislators make it harder to get an abortion, and homogays can't visit their significant other in the hospital on their death beds. Religion has many functions, many very positive. Religion served as comfort when we had no answers. It brought people together around a common belief. It has made masses rise to ideals greater than the self. The problem is I think at this juncture in human history, we need to put it down like the rabid dog it is because it does more harm than good.
Did you write that? Or is it a quote, you Nailed it if you did.
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Lennie Kirk did it properly, the rest are quite annoying.
Sumner is the worst. In saying that, Grind was one of the best movies ever made. So every cloud.
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I always thought it was pretty lame that Jesus found it necessary to flex his abs the whole time that he was on the cross. What a vain shitbag.
If it had been me I would have just slipped some mushroom tip out from my loin cloth and made as much eye contact as possible. Maybe that's why nobody practices McShamebaganity.
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I always thought it was pretty lame that Jesus found it necessary to flex his abs the whole time that he was on the cross. What a vain shitbag.
If it had been me I would have just slipped some mushroom tip out from my loin cloth and made as much eye contact as possible. Maybe that's why nobody practices McShamebaganity.
I'll follow you, just tell me what to do.
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Anytime I hear anyone talking about their religion I am instantly uninterested, if they start preaching I really don't want to hear it.
I'm all for religion as long as you arn't trying to force feed me it. Same goes for atheists for that matter because I don't see how it's any different, your just force feeding another person your beliefs.
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the obnoxious 'satan/666' attention seeking dudes are just as awful as the religious dudes.
I also agree.
If Jamie Thomas wants to put a big picture of Jesus on his board than he can, it's what he believes in.
believe what you want to beleive but if someone talks about any religion i instantly switch off/walk away.. no time for that shit
religion teaches us to be ok with not understanding the world- Louis CK
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yes, they're fucking lame.
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does this answer your question?
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yes, they're fucking lame.
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I'm a too each their own sorta of person. Hosoi is a bit heavy on it, but i respect the fact taht he found whatever comfort he needed to get his shit figured out so thats cool for him.
It's the same shit with music, i tend to shy away from religious bands, but some are fucking great, like Pedro The Lion or early MeWithoutYou
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It doesn't matter at all as long as you're bringing it not singing on the board.
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A large part of Christianity is spreading the word of God and helping others to find Jesus, so honestly if they never talked about it they wouldn't be true Christians.
I mean I don't see why you would criticize someone for their beliefs that's probably the lamest thing ever. You do understand that you were insinuating that Paul Rodriguez should not thank God after he wins a contest. What is wrong with you? Who cares what he does, what he beleives? Who are you to say that he is thanking God for himself? You've seen him pray into his hat before every trick, he beleives his faith in God is giving him the strength do what he's doing and who are you to say he's wrong? He's obviously had a successful life and career, he feels he is blessed and feels God/Jesus has blessed him, I guess you would just call it talent or luck but he doesn't therefore that's like the opposite of arrogance. Also if you're psyched on something and it's a big part of your life you're going to talk about it and it may end up on your board graphic one way of another and that goes for religion too.
Threads like this make me sick. Skateboarding is about individuality and freedom in the purest sense and that seems to be ok with you as long as it doesn't involve religion, namely Christianity. True practicing Christians are some of the nicest people you will meet, there are certainly more negative things to be into. For instance the Austyn 'coke' thread mostly has responses defending drug use or claiming "it's not big deal everyone does it" but when it's a thread about religion and Christianity everyone jumps in saying how lame it is and how this should stop. Do you see the issue I have here?
Yes, because he's saying 'god' helped him win, when 'god' doesn't care if prod wins a skateboard contest, he worked hard himself for the win.
Christian are not the nicest people in the least. As a kid i got bullied by church kids all through junior high and some of high school, for NOT GOING TO CHURCH. Even parents and teachers treated me different when they found out. I feel sorry for those kids now, because they were forced to go to church every sunday and wednesday. That's what's wrong with it.
They all believe it, because they want eternal paradise after death. All they want is the big payout after they die. When the bible says shit like anyone with tattoos shall be put to death. Everyone with cross tats must have missed that bible passage.
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If you've "got it all figured out" you're a fucking kook regardless of who you do (or don't) pray to.
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Chad Tim Tim had one of those stupid christian skater videos and he's still cool. I think Ray Barbee did too.
The Christian Faith of Skateboarder Chad Tim Tim - CBN.com (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ifjwoztuz4#)
Religion hurts everyone all the time. Remember that when NASA gets denied funding, legislators make it harder to get an abortion, and homogays can't visit their significant other in the hospital on their death beds. Religion has many functions, many very positive. Religion served as comfort when we had no answers. It brought people together around a common belief. It has made masses rise to ideals greater than the self. The problem is I think at this juncture in human history, we need to put it down like the rabid dog it is because it does more harm than good.
Did you write that? Or is it a quote, you Nailed it if you did.
Of course I wrote it.
Talking to TMFK about religion is like talking to a wall. You can't divorce good people who practice religion from the bad events religion is directly responsible for. I'm not saying if religion was gone life would be peachy, but it would definitely be better at this point in time. Imagine a world where no violence or prejudices come from what is deemed sacrilegious or divine right either by design or genuine belief of those in power. Imagine a world unfettered by mass delusion. A world of progress rather than conservatism. Religion runs contrary to these ideals. So does it bother me when people maintain religious beliefs in the face of logic and progress? Yes it does. And I'd rather not see it championed by those with influence over others.
Criticizing people for their beliefs is completely valid and acceptable thing to do, or at least it should be. Because you believe in a thing, that doesn't make it special. Especially when the belief's only leg to stand on is because other people believe it too. Besides, examining belief is part of finding truth.
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"God is dead." - L33tg33k
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I wish Gonz would rewrite and illustrate the bible with jesus pushing mongo.
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I wish Gonz would rewrite and illustrate the bible with jesus pushing mongo.
jesus would definitely have rocked airspeed shoes, a revive skateboard, and done yo flips
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Jesus would use the flat bottom of a mini ramp as a mannual pad.
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Jesus would sit on the ledge you're skating.
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Jesus waxes the coping.
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Jesus will post his footage on your facebook wall.
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Jesus will post his footage on your facebook wall.
and then like his own post
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Jesus is Rusty Bearings.
(http://i58.tinypic.com/33davro.png)
(http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/jesus2-620x450.jpg)
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More Christ-like, less Christians please.
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yes
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Does the pope shit in the woods?
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Jesus will post his footage on your facebook wall.
and then like his own post
ha, nate keegan does that. he's so jesus.
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Any time I do something good around my aunt's house im living at, she keeps saying god enlightened me to do it.
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to answer your question yeah theyre lame, but they have the attention of a demographic that spends money on product so its a good business move.
most shit in skateboarding is lame, from saturday morning cartoon graphics to drug fiend powder sniffing/shooting graphics, to religion and politics most shit is awful. the people involved in skateboarding whether its a professional or a behind the scenes 'industry' doofus are equally as awful too, esp if you get to know them for who they actually are.
just appreciate that having fun riding your skateboard isnt lame and ignore everything else. dont deflower its purity by mucking it up with a bunch of unrelated bullshit that has to do with other facets of peoples lives (like religion) that dont actually impact how someone rides a skateboard.
marketing your brand/ rider using anything other than good skateboarding (like religion/politics/weed smoking/cats/hipster trash/hip hop hood nonsense, etc.) sucks. let skateboarding speak for itself for once
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to answer your question yeah theyre lame, but they have the attention of a demographic that spends money on product so its a good business move.
most shit in skateboarding is lame, from saturday morning cartoon graphics to drug fiend powder sniffing/shooting graphics, to religion and politics most shit is awful. the people involved in skateboarding whether its a professional or a behind the scenes 'industry' doofus are equally as awful too, esp if you get to know them for who they actually are.
just appreciate that having fun riding your skateboard isnt lame and ignore everything else. dont deflower its purity by mucking it up with a bunch of unrelated bullshit that has to do with other facets of peoples lives (like religion) that dont actually impact how someone rides a skateboard.
marketing your brand/ rider using anything other than good skateboarding (like religion/politics/weed smoking/cats/hipster trash/hip hop hood nonsense, etc.) sucks. let skateboarding speak for itself for once
Eat a dick Mother Goose. Don't tell me how to live.
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to answer your question yeah theyre lame, but they have the attention of a demographic that spends money on product so its a good business move.
most shit in skateboarding is lame, from saturday morning cartoon graphics to drug fiend powder sniffing/shooting graphics, to religion and politics most shit is awful. the people involved in skateboarding whether its a professional or a behind the scenes 'industry' doofus are equally as awful too, esp if you get to know them for who they actually are.
just appreciate that having fun riding your skateboard isnt lame and ignore everything else. dont deflower its purity by mucking it up with a bunch of unrelated bullshit that has to do with other facets of peoples lives (like religion) that dont actually impact how someone rides a skateboard.
marketing your brand/ rider using anything other than good skateboarding (like religion/politics/weed smoking/cats/hipster trash/hip hop hood nonsense, etc.) sucks. let skateboarding speak for itself for once
Eat a dick Mother Goose. Don't tell me how to live.
ill eat your dick, faggot.
especially if it has a flameboy logo, weed leaf, crucifix, tattooed to it with pubes that resemble andy schrocks beard <3
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to answer your question yeah theyre lame, but they have the attention of a demographic that spends money on product so its a good business move.
most shit in skateboarding is lame, from saturday morning cartoon graphics to drug fiend powder sniffing/shooting graphics, to religion and politics most shit is awful. the people involved in skateboarding whether its a professional or a behind the scenes 'industry' doofus are equally as awful too, esp if you get to know them for who they actually are.
just appreciate that having fun riding your skateboard isnt lame and ignore everything else. dont deflower its purity by mucking it up with a bunch of unrelated bullshit that has to do with other facets of peoples lives (like religion) that dont actually impact how someone rides a skateboard.
marketing your brand/ rider using anything other than good skateboarding (like religion/politics/weed smoking/cats/hipster trash/hip hop hood nonsense, etc.) sucks. let skateboarding speak for itself for once
Eat a dick Mother Goose. Don't tell me how to live.
ill eat your dick, faggot.
especially if it has a flameboy logo, weed leaf, crucifix, tattooed to it with pubes that resemble andy schrocks beard <3
Prove it.
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Imagine a world where no violence or prejudices come from what is deemed sacrilegious or divine right either by design or genuine belief of those in power.
Instead, people would just keep killing each other and hating each other over the same stupid non-religious shit they do. Happens every day, man - do you think the asshole who shot the guy who used to deliver Chinese to our store for cigarette money was a religious man? People are inherently fucked, and do fucked things, religion or not, and that will never change. Shit, there are probably more people who would go off the deep end and do terrible crap if they didn't fear a reprecussion in the afterlife. If that keeps some dumbfuck from committing robbery, rape, murder, etc. then I'm all for it, let 'em preach away.
Imagine a world unfettered by mass delusion.
What's tragic is, those who abhor religion seem to be some of the most delusional people of all. Like the kind who think that trying to make life equal for all is attainable, or that by castigating anyone who doesn't think/act the way they'd like will drive out the behaviors/thoughts/actions that they wish would go away. People who replace religion with things like "social justice" are simply seeking to create their own secular shrine to worship at, and they do shitty things every day all in a misguided attempt to make the world better, yet they seem to make it worse.
A world of progress rather than conservatism.
Actually, progressivism =/= progress. Conservatism sucks in many ways as well. Politics is nothing more than shitty team sports where betting on either side means you lose. But, as people continue to think that those who don't share their ideals are lesser people, they're simply turning their secularism into a new religion that they use against others. Yet, they're too blind to see it themselves.
Don't fall for the same schtick that's simply progressivist agenda twisted into the new faith. While it doesn't call itself religion, it may as well be, for it is as intolerant of all opposition as any religion you can think of. Except maybe Islam, since they'll just shoot you or cut your head off if you disagree, but that aside, it's pretty shitty.
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I've come to kind of hate religion. I've lost a lot of friends because I simply said I don't believe in god. Teachers have treated me worse when had discussion on religion and I said I don't believe in it. Religion fucks with people.
Also, 9/11 would have never happened if there was no religion.
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"that 666 shit is just as annoying." NO ITS NOT. Are you fucking serious? Religious people ACTUALLY TAKE THAT STUPID SHIT SERIOUSLY. The 666 satan shit is completely sarcastic and mocking of obsessive religious types. They don't take it seriously, and they don't practice religious hegemony by attempting to force actual views upon somebody else. If you find that just as offensive, you are fucking stupid and completely missing the whole issue.
My stance on religion is that if you want to believe in those stupid archaic fairy tales, go ahead, just don't try to push your beliefs on anybody in any way- that means don't try to convert people, and don't try to tell people to act a certain way because your religion says so. Religious Christians tend to be the worst, because as a majority religion in society they feel most comfortable pushing their beliefs on others (think"gay marriage is a sin!") and often tend to be successful. That, of course, is why Christianity is targeted for criticism- their attempts to push their ways on others are not appreciated by the people who are being told they are inferior for having differing beliefs.
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Yes. Obviously science and facts are the only true religion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_disproved_mathematical_ideas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_disproved_mathematical_ideas)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conjectures (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conjectures)
(http://www.randomhouse.com.au/content/cache/140x210/authors/hawking,%20stephen.jpg)
"Hi, I can guesstimate theoretical situations that will never help anyone do anything ever so far in the theoretical future and past that they can't be disproven beyond a reasonable doubt. I just can't seem to step out of this chair."
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What a stupid thread, are religious people lame? No... so why would religious skaters be lame?
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I luv True Religion jeans...American Eagle & Hollister are so whack
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Yes. Obviously science and facts are the only true religion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_disproved_mathematical_ideas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_disproved_mathematical_ideas)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conjectures (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conjectures)
(http://www.randomhouse.com.au/content/cache/140x210/authors/hawking,%20stephen.jpg)
"Hi, I can guesstimate theoretical situations that will never help anyone do anything ever so far in the theoretical future and past that they can't be disproven beyond a reasonable doubt. I just can't seem to step out of this chair."
Evangelical atheism
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Yes. Obviously science and facts are the only true religion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_disproved_mathematical_ideas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_disproved_mathematical_ideas)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conjectures (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conjectures)
(http://www.randomhouse.com.au/content/cache/140x210/authors/hawking,%20stephen.jpg)
"Hi, I can guesstimate theoretical situations that will never help anyone do anything ever so far in the theoretical future and past that they can't be disproven beyond a reasonable doubt. I just can't seem to step out of this chair."
Evangelical atheism
I seriously hope you see the irony in posting that.
Guess what happens in science, you come up with a model, test against it, others will test it in an effort to disprove it. If it is shown to be wrong it is discarded. Now obviously those mathematically models were discarded because they were shown to be incorrect by religion, oh no thats right, they were discarded because of more scientific investigation.
Now compare this to what happens with religion: This is a book with all the answers and no supporting evidence, it is the truth, because it says it is the truth, the end.
Steven Hawkins is a brilliant theoretical physicist by any measure, but has motor neuron disease so is wheelchair bound, haha hilarious isn't it? What the fuck is your point?
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I wish Gonz would rewrite and illustrate the bible with jesus pushing mongo.
I like to picture Jesus in a tuxedo T-Shirt because it says I want to be formal, but I'm here to party.
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always amazes me when people don't understand what faith is and means. of course people of faith don't reason about their faith, if they did it wouldn't be faith by definition. that'd be like trying to reason that a strawberry tastes better than a grape.
i know ton's of people of faith that i'm pretty sure are a hell of a lot smarter than your average bear.
having faith doesn't mean lacking intelligence or intellectual sophistication. stating that only makes you seem like you don't get out much or that you surround yourself with stupid people.
also, even though i don't have faith, i'm not smug enough to believe that reason leads to better morality. i don't feel obligated by my reason based beliefs to do shit for other people but i have friends who give over half their incomes and donate a ton of their time to charitable causes because of their faith based beliefs. can i really argue that my morals are better because they aren't faith based and are harder to make fun of?
seriously, some of you people need to get out and meet some people out of your comfort zone.
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Yes. Obviously science and facts are the only true religion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_disproved_mathematical_ideas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_disproved_mathematical_ideas)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conjectures (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conjectures)
(http://www.randomhouse.com.au/content/cache/140x210/authors/hawking,%20stephen.jpg)
"Hi, I can guesstimate theoretical situations that will never help anyone do anything ever so far in the theoretical future and past that they can't be disproven beyond a reasonable doubt. I just can't seem to step out of this chair."
Flaw in your thought process- sometimes math/science are incorrect, therefore Christianity must be. No, both can be wrong. I'm not the kind of atheist who thinks that there must be no god. I'm just saying that if there is some mystical creative force in the universe, its not the one described in any religious books as of yet. I also think its silly to think that if there is some creative force, that it sits there like some perverted stalker watching our every move, judging our morality, and punishing us for eternity if we don't say we love him.
At this point, through continued research and testing, science does seem to have the best grasp on how the universe works and functions. My guess is if there is a real god or creative force, that what scientists are discovering is how that creative force made the universe work. Considering no religious text does, it certainly brings up doubt.
Honestly though, who cares what I or anybody else believe? You can believe your crazy shit and I'll believe mine. The problem comes with proselytization- its arrogant.
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Which is more arrogant- proselytization or using the word proselytization?
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i'm not pro but i am a pretty lame Catholic. that said, i was 10 X lamer as a militant athiest. oh yeah, i was a real shitheel!
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Religion makes no effort to explain how as science already has done so. However religion makes an effort to answer the question why? which science can not do.
just a thought
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A good example would be If you found out Gonz was part of the God Squad you would be bummed. I would anyway.
Seems like the religious posters in this thread are the angriest.
Mocking motor neuron disease, very Christian of you.
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The more education someone has, the more likely they don't believe god. That says a lot. How does that feel christian pals? The few of you sound pretty pissed, but i'm guessing you guys are trolling.
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PRod praying always reminds me of this Jeff Stilson bit...
" I got tired of the interviews after the games, because the winning players always give credit to God, and the losers blame themselves. You know, just once I'd like to hear a player say, 'Yeah, we were in the game, until Jesus made me fumble. He hates our team.'"
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The more education someone has, the more likely they don't believe god. That says a lot. How does that feel christian pals? The few of you sound pretty pissed, but i'm guessing you guys are trolling.
Tell that to Ashkenazi Jews who traditionally have the highest IQ of all humankind with many traditionally tend to value education greatly. They must be sooooo stupid for having faith, am I right? What a bunch of assholes!
Silly generalizations in order to try and "make the enemy look stupid" is for suckers who feel a strong compulsion to always be "right". And I'm not even religious, but fuck if I don't at least have some respect for many of those who are. What's tragicomic to me is when people say things like "Screw those Christian bigots!" without even noticing their own blanketed bigotry they throw around in saying so. It's that sort of thing that made me lose my faith in mankind long, long ago, but thanks for reaffirming my feelings on the matter, bro!
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d.bag you seem like a very level-headed fellow!
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A good example would be If you found out Gonz was part of the God Squad you would be bummed. I would anyway.
Seems like the religious posters in this thread are the angriest.
Mocking motor neuron disease, very Christian of you.
uhh, actually in the Rocco doc, the man who souled the world, rocco says that gonz actually talked jason lee out of using the board that later became natas' famous 101 board, because mark's religious beliefs made him tell jason the board was evil. Guess im really just writing this to say a lot of people have certain beliefs but dont make it their outward persona.
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The more education someone has, the more likely they don't believe god. That says a lot. How does that feel christian pals? The few of you sound pretty pissed, but i'm guessing you guys are trolling.
Tell that to Ashkenazi Jews who traditionally have the highest IQ of all humankind with many traditionally tend to value education greatly. They must be sooooo stupid for having faith, am I right? What a bunch of assholes!
Silly generalizations in order to try and "make the enemy look stupid" is for suckers who feel a strong compulsion to always be "right". And I'm not even religious, butt fuck if I don't at least have some respect for many of those who are. What's tragicomic to me is when people say things like "Screw those Christian bigots!" without even noticing their own blanketed bigotry they throw around in saying so. It's that sort of thing that made me lose my faith in mankind long, long ago, but thanks for reaffirming my feelings on the matter, bro!
Those people who say "well you have to respect them and their religious beliefs" are the absolute worst. I don't have to respect shit. Especially when it promotes eternal paradise as a death perk (pretty nice perk if you ask me) but theres a catch... we need 10% of your paycheck for you to be eligable. And btw we were just kidding about the paradise thing, you just die.
It's like that movie The Island with ScarJo.
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I'm not willing to accept religions answers for incredibly complex questions. The frontiers of physics and the developing understanding of the universe that we are all a part of is much more fascinating than 'Yo! god created this shit in 7 days, 'he's' watching you, 'he' needs your unquestioning love because 'he' knows all and 'he's' kinda pervy cause he watches you jerk it and that's a sin but if you ask for forgiveness he'll forgive you. 'He's fickle like that but he wants you to feel 'his' love.' Essentially the rules are set in opposition to human nature and our needs as animals, but teaching you that you're wrong for your developed animal instinct inserts power over you and that is what religion is really about. I'd rather science and theories to be improved upon over time to get us closer to tangible explanations for our existence. I'd rather be curious and fascinated by the possibilities of the universe than be closed off by the final word of an insecure god. I don't fault people for having faith in a power greater than themselves and a quest for spiritual knowledge but you're lying to yourself if you don't think that spirituality has become commodified.
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A human trying to figure out how we got here with math is like a rat trying to figure out why it's in a cage using nothing but its own poop. Even if someone did claim to figure it out, you'd just be taking them at their word. You wouldn't understand it. There are no genius mathematicians on the SLAP forum. You essentially might as well be snake handling. Most people side with atheism because they want to seem intelligent and independent from anything. Or as Neal Stephenson put it;
Ninety-nine percent of everything that goes on in most Christian churches has nothing whatsoever to do with the actual religion. Intelligent people all notice this sooner or later, and they conclude that the entire one hundred percent is bullshit, which is why atheism is connected with being intelligent in people's minds.
It's hip now. That's cool. In crowd. I get it. Doesn't make it any more right than asking a Magic 8-Ball. Those were in for a while too though, so whatever you're into.
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I'm cool with religious pros as long as they don't try and push/promote their religion. Same goes for dude's like Lizard King who are pretty much promoting the exact opposite (whether he's joking or not).
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Chris Cole is a Christian. /end_thread
Satanist or pseudo-Satanist are far worse, just look at the huge market they explore by promoting their "beliefs".
Atheists, nobody really cares about them until they try to preach a sermon on how enlightened they are.
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A human trying to figure out how we got here with math is like a rat trying to figure out why it's in a cage using nothing but its own poop.� Even if someone did claim to figure it out, you'd just be taking them at their word.� You wouldn't understand it.� There are no genius mathematicians on the SLAP forum.� You essentially might as well be snake handling.� Most people side with atheism because they want to seem intelligent and independent from anything.� Or as Neal Stephenson put it;
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Ninety-nine percent of everything that goes on in most Christian churches has nothing whatsoever to do with the actual religion. Intelligent people all notice this sooner or later, and they conclude that the entire one hundred percent is bullshit, which is why atheism is connected with being intelligent in people's minds.
I just can't get over how regular this is. It's like, I don't want to feel like I'm superior but it's hard not to when I look at something like this. Oh, and a better analogy than the rat making up shit with his shit would be something like math is akin reading the blueprints of the universe and gaining more understanding of its structure as we go.
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I am not a big fan of some of the proselytizing that does go on, but I did want the Gabriel Rodriguez board with the Jesus graphic.
My dad said no, I think he didn't want the scratches from board sliding across Jesus's face, lol.
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I could care less about religion, but I don't think ending religion would stop a deluded world and killing over pointless beliefs. Reminds me of the south park episode where they go into the future and they have eliminated religion, but are now killing each other over which type of science to believe. I do find people thanking god or asking god to help them on a trick annoying as fuck though like P-rod, but not the lennie kirk insane way of believing god smacked him down on a grind cuz he jacked off earlier that day. God doesn't give a fuck whether u land that trick that gets u into the 9 club or not Prod.
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Which is more arrogant- proselytization or using the word proselytization?
Clearly the act of proselytization. The word is the correct and most accurate word to use in the instance that I used it. Don't be some ignorant anti-intellectual who gets mad at people for using big words. It not a good look. appropriate use of a word is not arrogant at all. In fact, when I used it, I apparently assumed more of my audience than I should have, the opposite of arrogance.
The act of proselytization is one of complete arrogance. It says "my beliefs are better than your beliefs" openly and outwardly. A proselytizer by definition thinks of the person he is converting as inferior and needing of changing to be more like the proselytizer. Its textbook arrogance and intolerance. Its not enough to have your beliefs, you have to force them on others too.
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A human trying to figure out how we got here with math is like a rat trying to figure out why it's in a cage using nothing but its own poop.� Even if someone did claim to figure it out, you'd just be taking them at their word.� You wouldn't understand it.� There are no genius mathematicians on the SLAP forum.� You essentially might as well be snake handling.� Most people side with atheism because they want to seem intelligent and independent from anything.� Or as Neal Stephenson put it;
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Ninety-nine percent of everything that goes on in most Christian churches has nothing whatsoever to do with the actual religion. Intelligent people all notice this sooner or later, and they conclude that the entire one hundred percent is bullshit, which is why atheism is connected with being intelligent in people's minds.
Its also mindblowingly dumb because we don't just assume or have faith in the correctness of scientists. Those rockets they designed to go up into space based on math and physics worked, because they were right- it doesn't take a math genius to know. Then when they successfully did use rockets to go into space, you know what they found? A round Earth that rotates around the sun, just like Gallileo said, based on math and physics since space travel clearly wasn't a possibility in his time. THEN after they did all that, you know what they did? They shot fucking satelites into orbit, using math and science equations, allowing me to watch 500 tv stations and post long and stupid rants about Dylan. on the internet, because not only could fucking math and science successfully shoot a satellite into space, it could be used to accurately locate its position so that these transmissions can be sent all over the world through motherfucking space. Why? Because SCIENCE. The nice thing is, I don't need to know the math or physics of it all, I just see never ending proof in my daily life that these physicist guys have a pretty goddamned good handle on how all this shit works. We could get into how many incorrect aspects of what I just wrote are proclaimed in the bible and expected to be taken on faith, but it doesn't really matter. Science as we know it disproves all religious texts in existence. It doesn't replace them. If their is a god or creative force, it hasn't revealed itself to humanity. Its that simple.
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a better analogy than the rat making up shit with his shit would be something like math is akin reading the blueprints of the universe and gaining more understanding of its structure as we go.
A blueprint would imply that this shit was planned and built, and I KNOW you wouldn't dare insinuate that, so just stop before you embarrass yourself some more.
we don't just assume or have faith in the correctness of scientists.
I know YOU aren't checking shit but your faculty email so yeah, YOU are assuming everything.
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a better analogy than the rat making up shit with his shit would be something like math is akin reading the blueprints of the universe and gaining more understanding of its structure as we go.
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we don't just assume or have faith in the correctness of scientists.
Are you denying the existence of the space program and the everyday use of satellite technology that I cited? If so, please, explain. I love a good conspiracy theory.
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a better analogy than the rat making up shit with his shit would be something like math is akin reading the blueprints of the universe and gaining more understanding of its structure as we go.
No, the implication would be we work to find how the universe is put together with math being the notation in which it is was made, not to find who made it. It is not science's prerogative to find why, but to learn about the universe and perhaps the why will come with it. Science is not about faith, it's about knowledge. If we discover that there's some giant interdimensional sentient energy being that made us all, it wouldn't be a blow to science. It would just be science.
Me embarrass myself some more? You're the one that sounds like a slow child here.
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Like most I don't care about other people's religious preference, but if someone wants to thank their god for something then so what? Plenty of other skaters are rockin pentagram tats, throwing up devil horn hand signs, writing 666 on their grip, whatever. Yeah, kids are impressionable but people also grow into themselves and develop their own opinions at some point.
Most "religious pros" aren't trying to convert kids through skating. They just don't hide their beliefs and shouldn't need to. In reality, this isn't some kind of huge thing anyway. The vast majority of professional skaters don't overtly claim a religious stance either way, they're publicly neutral so to speak so what this thread really is about is singling out a very small group and chastising them for their faith. That's ignorant as fuck, no matter which side of the fence you're on.
Moreover, when someone says they thank god for being where they are they're probably not insinuating that god pointed at them with magic fingers and said "you will win Street League," they're usually communicating that their devotion kept them grounded and focused enough to accomplish whatever goal. If that was a factor then they can thank their god all they want. Why do you care so much if they do?
I'm not taking a side but honestly ask yourself what's more dangerous and damaging: saying "I'd like to thank god," "I believe in god," etc, or the rampant inflated egos, narcissism, and general assholery that so many pros project? Or how about thecountless dirtbags who constantly glorifiy drug use and other forms of overall self-destructive behavior? In comparison, is that guy who says he believes in god really setting a bad example? In most cases the answer is 'no.'
I don't know why I bothered writing that. Most of the twats on this forum don't have the capacity for post-conventional thought necessary to understand anything that doesn't match their own narrow-minded beliefs. Shit, half you tools* can't even be bothered to read more than a few sentences in one sitting.
*If the phrase "you tools" upset you then you most likely fall into the group I'm referring to. Congrats, tool.
P.S. You seem to have conveniently left out any Muslim skateboarders. Why not bring up guys like Jordan Richter? There are plenty of Buddhist skaters too, what about them? Don't fall into the common politically correct militant atheist trap of only targeting Christians, please spread the hate around equally.
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P Rod isn't trying to convert anybody when he prays to his hat. He's a religious and compulsive dude, so its probably about the equivalent to Reynolds' ocd shit. Its something to put his mind at ease before generally doing something really difficult and precise down some huge obstacle.
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A human trying to figure out how we got here with math is like a rat trying to figure out why it's in a cage using nothing but its own poop. Even if someone did claim to figure it out, you'd just be taking them at their word. You wouldn't understand it. There are no genius mathematicians on the SLAP forum. You essentially might as well be snake handling. Most people side with atheism because they want to seem intelligent and independent from anything. Or as Neal Stephenson put it;
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Ninety-nine percent of everything that goes on in most Christian churches has nothing whatsoever to do with the actual religion. Intelligent people all notice this sooner or later, and they conclude that the entire one hundred percent is bullshit, which is why atheism is connected with being intelligent in people's minds.
I respectfully disagree. The consideration that you created this comment based on a mathematical algorithm we humans developed en masse, without divinity, that many of us on the SLAP message board couldn't decode, yet it still functions for the most part perfectly, I fail to see the trendiness of athiesm based on mathematical ignorance. The dominant world view is still monotheism that strongly resembles Christianity, but nice try at martyrdom. I hear that was cool a couple thousand years ago. I wasn't raised in the church so there is no rebellion aspect for me. I think we all deserve better. I refuse to believe that humans are inherently flawed. I feel no superiority based on what I don't believe.
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A human trying to figure out how we got here with math is like a rat trying to figure out why it's in a cage using nothing but its own poop. Even if someone did claim to figure it out, you'd just be taking them at their word. You wouldn't understand it. There are no genius mathematicians on the SLAP forum. You essentially might as well be snake handling. Most people side with atheism because they want to seem intelligent and independent from anything. Or as Neal Stephenson put it;
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Ninety-nine percent of everything that goes on in most Christian churches has nothing whatsoever to do with the actual religion. Intelligent people all notice this sooner or later, and they conclude that the entire one hundred percent is bullshit, which is why atheism is connected with being intelligent in people's minds.
That is some profoundly dum shit you just spouted.
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A good example would be If you found out Gonz was part of the God Squad you would be bummed. I would anyway.
Seems like the religious posters in this thread are the angriest.
Mocking motor neuron disease, very Christian of you.
Yep that's cool.
Interesting that no one is mocking or hating on religon, simply stating they don't believe and that changes their opinion of people who do.
Yet that is immdiatley met with hostility and anger. I got two negative rep things just for posting in here. The wrath of God.
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Actually Thrillho sounds like he needs some mocking, he's gone next level person in this bitch.
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I'll just leave this here
Best of Christopher Hitchens Arguments And Clever Comebacks Part One (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqjfGFHes0w#)
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the obnoxious 'satan/666' attention seeking dudes are just as awful as the religious dudes.
Here's Sierra spouting off about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBjBz3I5DD4
What I saw was not Sierra spouting off about religion, but revealing how he was brainwashed into believing in Christianity and religion before he could possibly have the mental functions to decide for himself.
How fucking dare his stupid shitbrained mother ask a seven your child something like that. It's no doubt cyclical, and she was obviously raised into 'taking Jesus into her life' by her moron parents, and their moron parents, and their parents etc dating all the way back to when people didn't know any different and had to revert to believing in fairytales in order to justify and give meaning to things. Without religious parents, religion would be a done deal inside a single generation.
Pushing belief on your kids is the fucking worst - this poor bastard never had a chance. That video clip made me feel a bit sick actually as it was scary seeing how far his critical thinking functions have been so totally numbed by a lifetime of belief - Similar total conviction in the belief that their religion is true is what leads people to commit atrocities, globally, on a daily basis.
In 2014.
It's insane.
I actually have a similar recollection with my own mum around this age; we were in the car going somewhere, I looked up to the clouds and asked if that's where God lives. She went, "errrr & ummm" for a bit, but that was all I really needed to know. I've never given religion a second thought since then, apart from railing against it when it adversarially effects peoples lives needlessly.
As for praying in sport: I like it when two teams/players pray to God. It's always good to see who the big man wants to win.
He certainly seemed to have no time for David Luiz for Brazil in the World Cup. He must have had a cheeky wank after his incredible free kick in the previous game.
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Religion and religious people are lame. It has nothing to do with ones profession. But if they happen to be a skateboarder and they rip shit who really cares how they live their lives or choose for graphics
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I'm glad Sierra has changed so much since then.
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The more education someone has, the more likely they don't believe god. That says a lot. How does that feel christian pals? The few of you sound pretty pissed, but i'm guessing you guys are trolling.
Tell that to Ashkenazi Jews who traditionally have the highest IQ of all humankind with many traditionally tend to value education greatly.? They must be sooooo stupid for having faith, am I right?? What a bunch of assholes!
Silly generalizations in order to try and "make the enemy look stupid" is for suckers who feel a strong compulsion to always be "right".? And I'm not even religious, butt fuck if I don't at least have some respect for many of those who are.? What's tragicomic to me is when people say things like "Screw those Christian bigots!" without even noticing their own blanketed bigotry they throw around in saying so.? It's that sort of thing that made me lose my faith in mankind long, long ago, but thanks for reaffirming my feelings on the matter, bro!
Those people who say "well you have to respect them and their religious beliefs" are the absolute worst. I don't have to respect shit. Especially when it promotes eternal paradise as a death perk (pretty nice perk if you ask me) but theres a catch... we need 10% of your paycheck for you to be eligable. And btw we were just kidding about the paradise thing, you just die.
It's like that movie The Island with ScarJo.
they don't mean you really have to, only that if you don't want to come across as an asshole you should.
are you going to go to a dinner party and make fun of people who say grace? Its that kind of thing. That shit looks silly to all non-believers but that doesn't mean you can't show some respect. Its like people who have ugly babies, you still act like they are cute eventough everyone sees the little mutant, troll poo head.
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Its like people who have ugly babies, you still act like they are cute eventough everyone sees the little mutant, troll poo head.
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Its like people who have ugly babies, you still act like they are cute eventough everyone sees the little mutant, troll poo head.
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Children of the Corn Syrup
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P.S. You seem to have conveniently left out any Muslim skateboarders. Why not bring up guys like Jordan Richter? There are plenty of Buddhist skaters too, what about them? Don't fall into the common politically correct militant atheist trap of only targeting Christians, please spread the hate around equally.
Shut the fuck up you ignorant christian chauvinist. Christians are by far the most arrogant and chauvinistic about pushing their religion on others. I've NEVER had a muslim knock on my door to convert me. I've never walked outside and seen that my city has paid tax dollars to put up ramadan decorations, I've NEVER heard any Muslim claim this is a "muslim nation" despite clear and repeated explicit statements making us a pluralist secular nation. I've never heard of a group of concerned muslims forcing schools to change their biology textbook. You know who does do all of that shit? FUCKING CHRISTIANS. Its not the belief that pisses a lot of people off, its your arrogant assumption that you are superior, deserve to have your religion privileged, and force others with no interest whatsoever in believing in your religion to follow your religious rules.
THAT is why Christianity gets the most shit- its because you guys, in a complete lack of self-awareness, are the most oppressive to others who are not of your religion BY FAR. You guys are so shameless about thinking we should all share "christian values" (you know, like hating gay people and believing women who are raped should carry their rapists baby) but at the same time, every time you are confronted with it, you play this bullshit "oppressed christian" card that really just makes you look even more fucking stupid and more fucking whiny.
Let the muslims practice in peace. Fucking Christians are the problem.
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About 1/2 of them are cool because they aren't pushy or they approach their doctrine from a more philosophical angle.
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yes, they are. i believe in separation of church and skate.
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About 1/2 of them are cool because they aren't pushy or they approach their doctrine from a more philosophical angle.
The philosophical angle that says to murder your bride if she isn't a virgin on her wedding night, to kill your neighbor for working on the sabbath, that gays are evil and should burn in hell, or the obvious shit that is universally understood without needing god like- don't kill people or treat others how you want to be treated? Philosophically the bible is straight garbage with a couple nice, but obvious things sprinkled in. If you need the bible to tell you not to murder, it doesn't matter how pious you are, you are a terrible fucking person. If you listen to the bible when it says to hate gays, or that slaves should be obedient to their masters no matter what, then you are also a terrible fucking person. Either way, a person who needs/uses the bible for morality is probably a shitty human.
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P.S. You seem to have conveniently left out any Muslim skateboarders. Why not bring up guys like Jordan Richter? There are plenty of Buddhist skaters too, what about them? Don't fall into the common politically correct militant atheist trap of only targeting Christians, please spread the hate around equally.
Shut the fuck up you ignorant christian chauvinist. Christians are by far the most arrogant and chauvinistic about pushing their religion on others. I've NEVER had a muslim knock on my door to convert me. I've never walked outside and seen that my city has paid tax dollars to put up ramadan decorations, I've NEVER heard any Muslim claim this is a "muslim nation" despite clear and repeated explicit statements making us a pluralist secular nation. I've never heard of a group of concerned muslims forcing schools to change their biology textbook. You know who does do all of that shit? FUCKING CHRISTIANS. Its not the belief that pisses a lot of people off, its your arrogant assumption that you are superior, deserve to have your religion privileged, and force others with no interest whatsoever in believing in your religion to follow your religious rules.
THAT is why Christianity gets the most shit- its because you guys, in a complete lack of self-awareness, are the most oppressive to others who are not of your religion BY FAR. You guys are so shameless about thinking we should all share "christian values" (you know, like hating gay people and believing women who are raped should carry their rapists baby) but at the same time, every time you are confronted with it, you play this bullshit "oppressed christian" card that really just makes you look even more fucking stupid and more fucking whiny.
Let the muslims practice in peace. Fucking Christians are the problem.
Umm, mooselimbs suck too. They suck pretty fucking hard actually. I know I'm not visiting any middle eastern theocracies any time soon at least. Your point is correct though. I'll say it again, religion effects all of us. Politics effects all of us. No matter how much you want to stick your fingers in your ears and scream la la la, these things aren't disappearing and we all suffer for it.
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P.S. You seem to have conveniently left out any Muslim skateboarders. Why not bring up guys like Jordan Richter? There are plenty of Buddhist skaters too, what about them? Don't fall into the common politically correct militant atheist trap of only targeting Christians, please spread the hate around equally.
Shut the fuck up you ignorant christian chauvinist. Christians are by far the most arrogant and chauvinistic about pushing their religion on others. I've NEVER had a muslim knock on my door to convert me. I've never walked outside and seen that my city has paid tax dollars to put up ramadan decorations, I've NEVER heard any Muslim claim this is a "muslim nation" despite clear and repeated explicit statements making us a pluralist secular nation. I've never heard of a group of concerned muslims forcing schools to change their biology textbook. You know who does do all of that shit? FUCKING CHRISTIANS. Its not the belief that pisses a lot of people off, its your arrogant assumption that you are superior, deserve to have your religion privileged, and force others with no interest whatsoever in believing in your religion to follow your religious rules.
THAT is why Christianity gets the most shit- its because you guys, in a complete lack of self-awareness, are the most oppressive to others who are not of your religion BY FAR. You guys are so shameless about thinking we should all share "christian values" (you know, like hating gay people and believing women who are raped should carry their rapists baby) but at the same time, every time you are confronted with it, you play this bullshit "oppressed christian" card that really just makes you look even more fucking stupid and more fucking whiny.
Let the muslims practice in peace. Fucking Christians are the problem.
I can only take your word for it. I've never been forced to participate in Muslim practices, where with Christianity its a regular thing that isn't even controversial in the U.S. Not to mention, Christians have killed WAY more muslims than muslims have killed christians- the crusades, the battle for spain and the inquisition, European imperialism in the q9th, 20th, and 21st centuries. The only reason muslims are brought up is because they are the only ones even close to being competitive with the christians, but aren't as good at domination.
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Its like people who have ugly babies, you still act like they are cute eventough everyone sees the little mutant, troll poo head.
(http://37.media.tumblr.com/59e9a595ad3ffd98f0497bccfaad7ded/tumblr_mlivf0AlAB1qb6cnho1_400.jpg)
I had one helluva laugh at this! Thank you so much SJ
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Its like people who have ugly babies, you still act like they are cute eventough everyone sees the little mutant, troll poo head.
(http://37.media.tumblr.com/59e9a595ad3ffd98f0497bccfaad7ded/tumblr_mlivf0AlAB1qb6cnho1_400.jpg)
adorable!
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I thought of a fun way to mess with Christians if you're ever so inclined. Just start talking about bible stories and ask if they think that shit really happened. Watch them pick and choose which parts were literal and which were figurative. Be amused.
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The more education someone has, the more likely they don't believe god. That says a lot. How does that feel christian pals? The few of you sound pretty pissed, but i'm guessing you guys are trolling.
Tell that to Ashkenazi Jews who traditionally have the highest IQ of all humankind with many traditionally tend to value education greatly. They must be sooooo stupid for having faith, am I right? What a bunch of assholes!
Silly generalizations in order to try and "make the enemy look stupid" is for suckers who feel a strong compulsion to always be "right". And I'm not even religious, but fuck if I don't at least have some respect for many of those who are. What's tragicomic to me is when people say things like "Screw those Christian bigots!" without even noticing their own blanketed bigotry they throw around in saying so. It's that sort of thing that made me lose my faith in mankind long, long ago, but thanks for reaffirming my feelings on the matter, bro!
word. Putting faith in the observations of man and the material plane= cool, intelligent, forward thinking. . . Putting faith in a higher spiritual power beyond the physical = obnoxious arrogant bigotry (but only really if you have the audacity to call that higher powder "God", if you use more broad terms and smoke weed you can still be "cool and spiritual")
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A human trying to figure out how we got here with math is like a rat trying to figure out why it's in a cage using nothing but its own poop. Even if someone did claim to figure it out, you'd just be taking them at their word. You wouldn't understand it. There are no genius mathematicians on the SLAP forum. You essentially might as well be snake handling. Most people side with atheism because they want to seem intelligent and independent from anything. Or as Neal Stephenson put it;
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Ninety-nine percent of everything that goes on in most Christian churches has nothing whatsoever to do with the actual religion. Intelligent people all notice this sooner or later, and they conclude that the entire one hundred percent is bullshit, which is why atheism is connected with being intelligent in people's minds.
His point stands. Mathematics is a human abstraction; we created it. if we emerged from the universe how can the universe be based on something that emerged from us? the existence of online forums based on mathematical algorithms doesn't answer that question. What annoys me about a lot of atheists (and I would consider myself one) is that they are often astoundingly ignorant of the history and philosophy of science, and adhere to the Newtonian view of the universe with an almost 'blind faith'. They'll read some shit from some hack like Dawkins or Dennett and accept the nihilism implied in their conclusions, which is a much more dangerous belief than much of the deity worship that they so blissfully condemn.
but yeah christian skaters are annoying for the most part.
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About 1/2 of them are cool because they aren't pushy or they approach their doctrine from a more philosophical angle.
I'm not going to defend the Christianity to you, because I'm not one. But growing up in the bible belt I've seen clear distinction between what's a kook Christian and what isn't. My comment wasn't even specifically about Christians (As I'm sure skateboarding has also had Jewish, Buddhist, Rastafarian and *sigh* Scientologist pros), just stating that religious people who tend to be more flexible and less dogmatic about their faith usually aren't the gay hating slavery loving assholes you want them to be.
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religious pros are mad lame but 'lame' is better than 6 ft under, you'll notice the christian fundamentalist skate comunity isnt much for od'ing or going to jail and shit so cheers to them.
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Nothing worse than a self-loathing atheist.
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religious pros are mad lame but 'lame' is better than 6 ft under, you'll notice the christian fundamentalist skate comunity isnt much for od'ing or going to jail and shit so cheers to them.
You mean like Gator? He was religious as fuck and raped and murdered a girl for reminding him of his ex-girlfriend and is still in jail...maybe you've heard the story.
Or maybe like Lennie Kirk, who stuck up cabbies with sawed off shot guns because according to Josh Kalis, he thought God gave him permission. He never got in any trouble either.
Shitheads exist in religious and non-religious communities alike. Religious shitheads just somehow think God is blessing them in their actions (as Gator and Lennie did)
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A human trying to figure out how we got here with math is like a rat trying to figure out why it's in a cage using nothing but its own poop. �Even if someone did claim to figure it out, you'd just be taking them at their word. �You wouldn't understand it. �There are no genius mathematicians on the SLAP forum. �You essentially might as well be snake handling. �Most people side with atheism because they want to seem intelligent and independent from anything. �Or as Neal Stephenson put it;
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Ninety-nine percent of everything that goes on in most Christian churches has nothing whatsoever to do with the actual religion. Intelligent people all notice this sooner or later, and they conclude that the entire one hundred percent is bullshit, which is why atheism is connected with being intelligent in people's minds.
His point stands. Mathematics is a human abstraction; we created it. if we emerged from the universe how can the universe be based on something that emerged from us? the existence of online forums based on mathematical algorithms doesn't answer that question. What annoys me about a lot of atheists (and I would consider myself one) is that they are often astoundingly ignorant of the history and philosophy of science, and adhere to the Newtonian view of the universe with an almost 'blind faith'. They'll read some shit from some hack like Dawkins or Dennett and accept the nihilism implied in their conclusions, which is a much more dangerous belief than much of the deity worship that they so blissfully condemn.
but yeah christian skaters are annoying for the most part.
For the last fucking time ITS NOT BLIND FAITH. It has been repeatedly tested and our modern life is based around the idea that these aren't just random human ideas, but the actual way the universe works. The idea that "the universe is based on something that emerged from us" simply shows a terrible and weak grasp of how math works. I didn't decide in my head that if Johnny has two apples and gets two more apples he will then have four apples, I've observed it repeatedly, its how things work, so therefore, I can comfortably say 2+2=4- I didn't make that up and have faith in its truth, I observed it. Modern inventions such as computers and the internet have also made it clear that mathematical ideas aren't just hypotheses, but actual working concepts upon which we can base most of our modern lifestyle. There's no "magic 8 ball" about it.
Math is an abstraction of the observable, not some crazy language we invented that has no concrete meaning or value. The fields of math and science are fields of discovery, not invention. To say that because math exists that god must is a huge leap in logic that is not necessarily true. If a god exists, it certainly must have created these laws, but because the laws exist does not mean god must.
And give it a rest with the idea that atheism is as dangerous as religion- look at Iraq, Syria, Israel, Gaza, Christian created laws in Uganda that give the death penalty to gays. NOTHING on Earth comes even close to the sort of misery, separation, pain, and death that religion unleashes. Sure it does some good, but Al Capone set up a ton of soup kitchens too.
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A human trying to figure out how we got here with math is like a rat trying to figure out why it's in a cage using nothing but its own poop. �Even if someone did claim to figure it out, you'd just be taking them at their word. �You wouldn't understand it. �There are no genius mathematicians on the SLAP forum. �You essentially might as well be snake handling. �Most people side with atheism because they want to seem intelligent and independent from anything. �Or as Neal Stephenson put it;
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Ninety-nine percent of everything that goes on in most Christian churches has nothing whatsoever to do with the actual religion. Intelligent people all notice this sooner or later, and they conclude that the entire one hundred percent is bullshit, which is why atheism is connected with being intelligent in people's minds.
His point stands. Mathematics is a human abstraction; we created it. if we emerged from the universe how can the universe be based on something that emerged from us? the existence of online forums based on mathematical algorithms doesn't answer that question. What annoys me about a lot of atheists (and I would consider myself one) is that they are often astoundingly ignorant of the history and philosophy of science, and adhere to the Newtonian view of the universe with an almost 'blind faith'. They'll read some shit from some hack like Dawkins or Dennett and accept the nihilism implied in their conclusions, which is a much more dangerous belief than much of the deity worship that they so blissfully condemn.
but yeah christian skaters are annoying for the most part.
Math is not just some human abstraction. It's notation of observations of the universe. Math is not a matter of perspective, it is objective understanding of the rules of the universe. It's how we notate the framework observed, not a human attempt at being the architect. Mathematics are the relationships and patterns of everything. It is to be discovered, not invented. Objective and absolute as the speed of light. As I thought Gip made clear, this is why everything around you works. Our understanding of the workings of the universe is what makes everything you rely upon work. Computers weren't cobbled together with rocks and dirt by an magician who just hoped the thing would turn on. There are objective, observable, empirical truths in this world.
Math is the proof. If you don't know how magnets work that doesn't mean that no one else does, that it can't be learned, or that it's magic. You may just be a juggalo.
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to me personally, the difference between being catholic vs when i was athiest is my internal monologue is 'god, bless me w/ this tailslide' whereas it usedta be 'i'm gonna fuckin kill myself if i don't land this next fucking tailslide.'
people would be equally bad w/out religion, all the wars are for assets, they just disguise it as religion. israel isn't blowing up muslims, it's blowing up palestineans because that's who's land they want. on the surface Ireland's troubles are catholic vs protestant but its really england oppressing native irish. violent people will persist in joining violent organizations whether they be gangs, police forces or militaries. everything is the same.
everything people believe is silly in the light of day. i don't like smug people, whether it's because they're wicked christian or cause they have a fancy automobile. both people are the same piece of crap.
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It doesn't matter whether or not religion is the basis of conflict, it is still a tool of conflict. If you were in a fight with someone I wouldn't hand you a knife. If the man you're fighting against dies of a stab to the kidney, I'm not going to say the knife had nothing to do with it. There are those in power that understand that religion is ridiculous and there are those in power who are zealots. Both kinds use it to inspire people. Inspire them to hate. Inspire them to discriminate. Inspire them to kill.
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It doesn't matter whether or not religion is the basis of conflict, it is still a tool of conflict. If you were in a fight with someone I wouldn't hand you a knife. If the man you're fighting against dies of a stab to the kidney, I'm not going to say the knife had nothing to do with it. There are those in power that understand that religion is ridiculous and there are those in power who are zealots. Both kinds use it to inspire people. Inspire them to hate. Inspire them to discriminate. Inspire them to kill.
why wouldn't you hand me a knife? who's fuckin side are you on, leetgeek?
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It doesn't matter whether or not religion is the basis of conflict, it is still a tool of conflict. If you were in a fight with someone I wouldn't hand you a knife. If the man you're fighting against dies of a stab to the kidney, I'm not going to say the knife had nothing to do with it. There are those in power that understand that religion is ridiculous and there are those in power who are zealots. Both kinds use it to inspire people. Inspire them to hate. Inspire them to discriminate. Inspire them to kill.
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.... I find religious pros about as lame as pros who smoke weed, drink beer, and print and wear weed socks in front of the camera. In other words, skaters are notorious for not following a social norm. If a religious pro disrupts or offsets the norm of "core" skate culture, then I would think that this pro is indeed a true skater. The beauty of it all is if you don't want to hear it, then you hop on your board and skate away. If it is in a video, then you press the vert button and fast forward to whichever part you desire.
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I wish there were more neo-nazi skateboarders. Just to shake up the whole "societal norms" of skate culture. True skateboarders, you know?
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I wish there were more neo-nazi skateboarders. Just to shake up the whole "societal norms" of skate culture. True skateboarders, you know?
I don't know what you're talking about. There's a shit ton of those. Just think about all the skinhead punk and death metal bands that exist. I've been ogled by neo nazis at punk shows enough times to know that. Half those fuckers skate. I don't know about pros though.
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I wish there were more neo-nazi skateboarders. Just to shake up the whole "societal norms" of skate culture. True skateboarders, you know?
Don't worry, Nike is in the process of shaking up the skate "societal norm" with it's "BeTrue" skateboarder campaign. So far I hear that Danny Way is headlining this subversive movement by titling the next Plan B video as "True." Don't think Danny is a neo-nazi, but hey, maybe he has a cousin or something. lol.
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All religions have been invented to make those in power more powerful.
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.... I find religious pros about as lame as pros who smoke weed, drink beer, and print and wear weed socks in front of the camera. In other words, skaters are notorious for not following a social norm. If a religious pro disrupts or offsets the norm of "core" skate culture, then I would think that this pro is indeed a true skater. The beauty of it all is if you don't want to hear it, then you hop on your board and skate away. If it is in a video, then you press the vert button and fast forward to whichever part you desire.
I've never heard a pro who smokes weed, drinks beer, or wears weed socks put others down for not having the same beliefs as them, whereas the religious pros proselytize, which is definitively culturally chauvinistic. My guess is you are christian, live amongst christians, and just assume everybody is christian, making it inoffensive to you.
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All religions have been invented to make those in power more powerful.
Buddhism?
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(but only really if you have the audacity to call that higher powder "God"
wrong thread you fucking coke head
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P.S. ? You seem to have conveniently left out any Muslim skateboarders. Why not bring up guys like Jordan Richter? There are plenty of Buddhist skaters too, what about them? Don't fall into the common politically correct militant atheist trap of only targeting Christians, please spread the hate around equally.
Shut the fuck up you ignorant christian chauvinist. Christians are by far the most arrogant and chauvinistic about pushing their religion on others. I've NEVER had a muslim knock on my door to convert me. I've never walked outside and seen that my city has paid tax dollars to put up ramadan decorations, I've NEVER heard any Muslim claim this is a "muslim nation" despite clear and repeated explicit statements making us a pluralist secular nation. I've never heard of a group of concerned muslims forcing schools to change their biology textbook. You know who does do all of that shit? FUCKING CHRISTIANS. Its not the belief that pisses a lot of people off, its your arrogant assumption that you are superior, deserve to have your religion privileged, and force others with no interest whatsoever in believing in your religion to follow your religious rules.
THAT is why Christianity gets the most shit- its because you guys, in a complete lack of self-awareness, are the most oppressive to others who are not of your religion BY FAR. You guys are so shameless about thinking we should all share "christian values" (you know, like hating gay people and believing women who are raped should carry their rapists baby) but at the same time, every time you are confronted with it, you play this bullshit "oppressed christian" card that really just makes you look even more fucking stupid and more fucking whiny.
Let the muslims practice in peace. Fucking Christians are the problem.
And that's a high fly ball to straight away centerfield, going, going, GONE!!
Crushed it out of the park and into the parking lot!!!
BTW..
Jeebus was a longboarder, check his kicks....sandals
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Messageboarders like myself ACTUALLY TAKE THAT STUPID SHIT SERIOUSLY. The 666 satan shit is completely sarcastic and mocking of obsessive religious types. They don't take it seriously, and they don't practice religious hegemony by attempting to force actual views upon somebody else. If you find that just as offensive, you are fucking stupid and completely missing the whole issue.<-(sounds like my way or the highway religious talk to me)
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My stance on SLAP is that if you want to believe in those stupid archaic fairy tales, go ahead, just don't try to push your beliefs on anybody in any way- that means don't try to convert people, and don't try to tell people to act a certain way because FINGER IN THE BUTT RONALD REGAN says so. THE GIPPER tend to be the worst, because he feels most comfortable pushing their beliefs on others (think white guilt/ views on drugs/ any opinion that differs with mine) and often tend to be successful (in his own mind). That, of course, is why THE GIPPER is targeted for criticism- his attempts to push his ways on others are not appreciated by the people who are being told they are inferior for having differing beliefs.
youre like the religious crucader on slap trying to force people to listen to your bullshit, so i edited your content for relevance to our beloved messageboard. you embody what you hate in others, gip.
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.... I find religious pros about as lame as pros who smoke weed, drink beer, and print and wear weed socks in front of the camera. In other words, skaters are notorious for not following a social norm. If a religious pro disrupts or offsets the norm of "core" skate culture, then I would think that this pro is indeed a true skater. The beauty of it all is if you don't want to hear it, then you hop on your board and skate away. If it is in a video, then you press the vert button and fast forward to whichever part you desire.
Gipper,
Not exactly. I live in a Christian Country (America), however, I don't label myself as such. Just to clarify, when I said that I find religious pros (Prod,Summers,Hosoi,etc...) as lame as pros who smoke weed, drink beer, and "print" and wear weed socks (the baker team and Huf), I meant that there is no difference. All pros directly or indirectly associate with ideas they promote through their behaviors, style of dress, and the things they say. Therefore, being "lame" for religious reasons does not make sense to me. You don't like something, then skate away or hit the vert button to move on with the "VX" footage you are watching.
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.... I find religious pros about as lame as pros who smoke weed, drink beer, and print and wear weed socks in front of the camera. In other words, skaters are notorious for not following a social norm. If a religious pro disrupts or offsets the norm of "core" skate culture, then I would think that this pro is indeed a true skater. The beauty of it all is if you don't want to hear it, then you hop on your board and skate away. If it is in a video, then you press the vert button and fast forward to whichever part you desire.
Gipper,
Not exactly. I live in a Christian Country (America), however, I don't label myself as such. Just to clarify, when I said that I find religious pros (Prod,Summers,Hosoi,etc...) as lame as pros who smoke weed, drink beer, and "print" and wear weed socks (the baker team and Huf), I meant that there is no difference. All pros directly or indirectly associate with ideas they promote through their behaviors, style of dress, and the things they say. Therefore, being "lame" for religious reasons does not make sense to me. You don't like something, then skate away or hit the vert button to move on with the "VX" footage you are watching.
America is not a Christian country.
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.... I find religious pros about as lame as pros who smoke weed, drink beer, and print and wear weed socks in front of the camera. In other words, skaters are notorious for not following a social norm. If a religious pro disrupts or offsets the norm of "core" skate culture, then I would think that this pro is indeed a true skater. The beauty of it all is if you don't want to hear it, then you hop on your board and skate away. If it is in a video, then you press the vert button and fast forward to whichever part you desire.
Gipper,
Not exactly. I live in a Christian Country (America), however, I don't label myself as such. Just to clarify, when I said that I find religious pros (Prod,Summers,Hosoi,etc...) as lame as pros who smoke weed, drink beer, and "print" and wear weed socks (the baker team and Huf), I meant that there is no difference. All pros directly or indirectly associate with ideas they promote through their behaviors, style of dress, and the things they say. Therefore, being "lame" for religious reasons does not make sense to me. You don't like something, then skate away or hit the vert button to move on with the "VX" footage you are watching.
Yep, it's secular, like most of the world
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Messageboarders like myself ACTUALLY TAKE THAT STUPID SHIT SERIOUSLY. The 666 satan shit is completely sarcastic and mocking of obsessive religious types. They don't take it seriously, and they don't practice religious hegemony by attempting to force actual views upon somebody else. If you find that just as offensive, you are fucking stupid and completely missing the whole issue.<-(sounds like my way or the highway religious talk to me)
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My stance on SLAP is that if you want to believe in those stupid archaic fairy tales, go ahead, just don't try to push your beliefs on anybody in any way- that means don't try to convert people, and don't try to tell people to act a certain way because FINGER IN THE BUTT RONALD REGAN says so. THE GIPPER tend to be the worst, because he feels most comfortable pushing their beliefs on others (think white guilt/ views on drugs/ any opinion that differs with mine) and often tend to be successful (in his own mind). That, of course, is why THE GIPPER is targeted for criticism- his attempts to push his ways on others are not appreciated by the people who are being told they are inferior for having differing beliefs.
youre like the religious crucader on slap trying to force people to listen to your bullshit, so i edited your content for relevance to our beloved messageboard. you embody what you hate in others, gip.
Shut up child, you are too stupid for this conversation. Go back to the thread where you pretend to know about coke, and seriously, man up about me talking shit on Dylan, you fucking pussy.
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.... I find religious pros about as lame as pros who smoke weed, drink beer, and print and wear weed socks in front of the camera. In other words, skaters are notorious for not following a social norm. If a religious pro disrupts or offsets the norm of "core" skate culture, then I would think that this pro is indeed a true skater. The beauty of it all is if you don't want to hear it, then you hop on your board and skate away. If it is in a video, then you press the vert button and fast forward to whichever part you desire.
Gipper,
Not exactly. I live in a Christian Country (America), however, I don't label myself as such. Just to clarify, when I said that I find religious pros (Prod,Summers,Hosoi,etc...) as lame as pros who smoke weed, drink beer, and "print" and wear weed socks (the baker team and Huf), I meant that there is no difference. All pros directly or indirectly associate with ideas they promote through their behaviors, style of dress, and the things they say. Therefore, being "lame" for religious reasons does not make sense to me. You don't like something, then skate away or hit the vert button to move on with the "VX" footage you are watching.
And THAT is the problem with Christian religious zealots in America.
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Messageboarders like myself ACTUALLY TAKE THAT STUPID SHIT SERIOUSLY. The 666 satan shit is completely sarcastic and mocking of obsessive religious types. They don't take it seriously, and they don't practice religious hegemony by attempting to force actual views upon somebody else. If you find that just as offensive, you are fucking stupid and completely missing the whole issue.<-(sounds like my way or the highway religious talk to me)
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My stance on SLAP is that if you want to believe in those stupid archaic fairy tales, go ahead, just don't try to push your beliefs on anybody in any way- that means don't try to convert people, and don't try to tell people to act a certain way because FINGER IN THE BUTT RONALD REGAN says so. THE GIPPER tend to be the worst, because he feels most comfortable pushing their beliefs on others (think white guilt/ views on drugs/ any opinion that differs with mine) and often tend to be successful (in his own mind). That, of course, is why THE GIPPER is targeted for criticism- his attempts to push his ways on others are not appreciated by the people who are being told they are inferior for having differing beliefs.
youre like the religious crucader on slap trying to force people to listen to your bullshit, so i edited your content for relevance to our beloved messageboard. you embody what you hate in others, gip.
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.... I find religious pros about as lame as pros who smoke weed, drink beer, and print and wear weed socks in front of the camera. In other words, skaters are notorious for not following a social norm. If a religious pro disrupts or offsets the norm of "core" skate culture, then I would think that this pro is indeed a true skater. The beauty of it all is if you don't want to hear it, then you hop on your board and skate away. If it is in a video, then you press the vert button and fast forward to whichever part you desire.
Gipper,
Not exactly. I live in a Christian Country (America), however, I don't label myself as such. Just to clarify, when I said that I find religious pros (Prod,Summers,Hosoi,etc...) as lame as pros who smoke weed, drink beer, and "print" and wear weed socks (the baker team and Huf), I meant that there is no difference. All pros directly or indirectly associate with ideas they promote through their behaviors, style of dress, and the things they say. Therefore, being "lame" for religious reasons does not make sense to me. You don't like something, then skate away or hit the vert button to move on with the "VX" footage you are watching.
Last I checked Puritan Ideology (which is Christian beliefs) founded this country and the majority of the language is embedded in The Constitution. Judeo-Christian ideology is still practiced by the majority of the people in power today and throughout the history of this country. Now, does that mean it's right or that things will never change, of course not. What it means for the purpose of this message board, however, is that you will still have Pros who are religious and Pros who are not. To say that religious skaters are lame is to say that skaters are lame.
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Messageboarders like myself ACTUALLY TAKE THAT STUPID SHIT SERIOUSLY. The 666 satan shit is completely sarcastic and mocking of obsessive religious types. They don't take it seriously, and they don't practice religious hegemony by attempting to force actual views upon somebody else. If you find that just as offensive, you are fucking stupid and completely missing the whole issue.<-(sounds like my way or the highway religious talk to me)
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My stance on SLAP is that if you want to believe in those stupid archaic fairy tales, go ahead, just don't try to push your beliefs on anybody in any way- that means don't try to convert people, and don't try to tell people to act a certain way because FINGER IN THE BUTT RONALD REGAN says so. THE GIPPER tend to be the worst, because he feels most comfortable pushing their beliefs on others (think white guilt/ views on drugs/ any opinion that differs with mine) and often tend to be successful (in his own mind). That, of course, is why THE GIPPER is targeted for criticism- his attempts to push his ways on others are not appreciated by the people who are being told they are inferior for having differing beliefs.
youre like the religious crucader on slap trying to force people to listen to your bullshit, so i edited your content for relevance to our beloved messageboard. you embody what you hate in others, gip.
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.... I find religious pros about as lame as pros who smoke weed, drink beer, and print and wear weed socks in front of the camera. In other words, skaters are notorious for not following a social norm. If a religious pro disrupts or offsets the norm of "core" skate culture, then I would think that this pro is indeed a true skater. The beauty of it all is if you don't want to hear it, then you hop on your board and skate away. If it is in a video, then you press the vert button and fast forward to whichever part you desire.
Gipper,
Not exactly. I live in a Christian Country (America), however, I don't label myself as such. Just to clarify, when I said that I find religious pros (Prod,Summers,Hosoi,etc...) as lame as pros who smoke weed, drink beer, and "print" and wear weed socks (the baker team and Huf), I meant that there is no difference. All pros directly or indirectly associate with ideas they promote through their behaviors, style of dress, and the things they say. Therefore, being "lame" for religious reasons does not make sense to me. You don't like something, then skate away or hit the vert button to move on with the "VX" footage you are watching.
Last I checked Puritan Ideology (which is Christian beliefs) founded this country and the majority of the language is embedded in The Constitution. Judeo-Christian ideology is still practiced by the majority of the people in power today and throughout the history of this country. Now, does that mean it's right or that things will never change, of course not. What it means for the purpose of this message board, however, is that you will still have Pros who are religious and Pros who are not. To say that religious skaters are lame is to say that skaters are lame.
To say religious skaters are lame is to say religious skaters are lame. If the puritan language is the benchmark, then it in fact DOES mean nothing will ever change. Based on the rest of your logic, skateboarding would be Christian if the majority of skaters are.
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Messageboarders like myself ACTUALLY TAKE THAT STUPID SHIT SERIOUSLY. The 666 satan shit is completely sarcastic and mocking of obsessive religious types. They don't take it seriously, and they don't practice religious hegemony by attempting to force actual views upon somebody else. If you find that just as offensive, you are fucking stupid and completely missing the whole issue.<-(sounds like my way or the highway religious talk to me)
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My stance on SLAP is that if you want to believe in those stupid archaic fairy tales, go ahead, just don't try to push your beliefs on anybody in any way- that means don't try to convert people, and don't try to tell people to act a certain way because FINGER IN THE BUTT RONALD REGAN says so. THE GIPPER tend to be the worst, because he feels most comfortable pushing their beliefs on others (think white guilt/ views on drugs/ any opinion that differs with mine) and often tend to be successful (in his own mind). That, of course, is why THE GIPPER is targeted for criticism- his attempts to push his ways on others are not appreciated by the people who are being told they are inferior for having differing beliefs.
youre like the religious crucader on slap trying to force people to listen to your bullshit, so i edited your content for relevance to our beloved messageboard. you embody what you hate in others, gip.
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.... I find religious pros about as lame as pros who smoke weed, drink beer, and print and wear weed socks in front of the camera. In other words, skaters are notorious for not following a social norm. If a religious pro disrupts or offsets the norm of "core" skate culture, then I would think that this pro is indeed a true skater. The beauty of it all is if you don't want to hear it, then you hop on your board and skate away. If it is in a video, then you press the vert button and fast forward to whichever part you desire.
Gipper,
Not exactly. I live in a Christian Country (America), however, I don't label myself as such. Just to clarify, when I said that I find religious pros (Prod,Summers,Hosoi,etc...) as lame as pros who smoke weed, drink beer, and "print" and wear weed socks (the baker team and Huf), I meant that there is no difference. All pros directly or indirectly associate with ideas they promote through their behaviors, style of dress, and the things they say. Therefore, being "lame" for religious reasons does not make sense to me. You don't like something, then skate away or hit the vert button to move on with the "VX" footage you are watching.
Last I checked Puritan Ideology (which is Christian beliefs) founded this country and the majority of the language is embedded in The Constitution. Judeo-Christian ideology is still practiced by the majority of the people in power today and throughout the history of this country. Now, does that mean it's right or that things will never change, of course not. What it means for the purpose of this message board, however, is that you will still have Pros who are religious and Pros who are not. To say that religious skaters are lame is to say that skaters are lame.
CHECK IT AGAIN YOU IGNORANT SHIT. Here's what the Constitution says about religion:
Article 6 clause 3 : "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."
Amendment 1 (FIRST thing mentioned in the amendment): "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"
THAT'S ALL IT SAYS. The Constitution had many influences, but those influences don't dictate what kind of country this is. Most of the document is actually founded upon late 18th century philosophers and jurists who were mostly deist, not Christian, and I could list paragraphs of quotes of writers of the Constitution talking about how stupid religion is, and about how many problems state entanglement with religion caused in Europe, but it doesn't matter. What matters is that the founding document of this nation EXPLICITLY states that this nation does NOT have any specific religious affiliation, and that it is to allow religious pluralism- an idea that is clearly antithetical to the puritan ideology you claim is apparently the only source of the Constitution.
Religion was discussed and debated, and the final decision was that WE ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION. And its written in the fucking document you claim to cite, (without reading or understanding AT ALL.)
FUCK IGNORANCE LIKE THAT PISSES ME OFF
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I don't wanna know or hear about it. Religion annoys me. Too full of hypocrites for my liking. I'm here to skate not get preached at. Although skating in downtown Seattle before there are corner evangelicals which are a riot to watch.
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religious pros are mad lame but 'lame' is better than 6 ft under, you'll notice the christian fundamentalist skate comunity isnt much for od'ing or going to jail and shit so cheers to them.
Or maybe like Lennie Kirk, who stuck up cabbies with sawed off shot guns because according to Josh Kalis, he thought God gave him permission. He never got in any trouble either.
Shitheads exist in religious and non-religious communities alike. Religious shitheads just somehow think God is blessing them in their actions (as Gator and Lennie did)
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A human trying to figure out how we got here with math is like a rat trying to figure out why it's in a cage using nothing but its own poop. �Even if someone did claim to figure it out, you'd just be taking them at their word. �You wouldn't understand it. �There are no genius mathematicians on the SLAP forum. �You essentially might as well be snake handling. �Most people side with atheism because they want to seem intelligent and independent from anything. �Or as Neal Stephenson put it;
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Ninety-nine percent of everything that goes on in most Christian churches has nothing whatsoever to do with the actual religion. Intelligent people all notice this sooner or later, and they conclude that the entire one hundred percent is bullshit, which is why atheism is connected with being intelligent in people's minds.
His point stands. Mathematics is a human abstraction; we created it. if we emerged from the universe how can the universe be based on something that emerged from us? the existence of online forums based on mathematical algorithms doesn't answer that question. What annoys me about a lot of atheists (and I would consider myself one) is that they are often astoundingly ignorant of the history and philosophy of science, and adhere to the Newtonian view of the universe with an almost 'blind faith'. They'll read some shit from some hack like Dawkins or Dennett and accept the nihilism implied in their conclusions, which is a much more dangerous belief than much of the deity worship that they so blissfully condemn.
but yeah christian skaters are annoying for the most part.
Math is an abstraction of the observable, not some crazy language we invented that has no concrete meaning or value. The fields of math and science are fields of discovery, not invention. To say that because math exists that god must is a huge leap in logic that is not necessarily true. If a god exists, it certainly must have created these laws, but because the laws exist does not mean god must.
And give it a rest with the idea that atheism is as dangerous as religion- look at Iraq, Syria, Israel, Gaza, Christian created laws in Uganda that give the death penalty to gays. NOTHING on Earth comes even close to the sort of misery, separation, pain, and death that religion unleashes. Sure it does some good, but Al Capone set up a ton of soup kitchens too.
I never said 'atheism is as dangerous as religion'. I said that nihilism, which is encouraged by the brand of atheism put forward by mechanistic materialist scientists, is much more dangerous. I'm at work right now and can type up a decent reply that elaborates on this point and other ones but if you are just going to misrepresent what I wrote and claim that my position derives from an ignorance of maths and science, I won't bother. If you'd like to read what I have to share however I will happily oblige, just ask!
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I skate with a dude who's very religious and he's a good guy. Just says frick too much when he bails a trick.
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Messageboarders like myself ACTUALLY TAKE THAT STUPID SHIT SERIOUSLY. The 666 satan shit is completely sarcastic and mocking of obsessive religious types. They don't take it seriously, and they don't practice religious hegemony by attempting to force actual views upon somebody else. If you find that just as offensive, you are fucking stupid and completely missing the whole issue.<-(sounds like my way or the highway religious talk to me)
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My stance on SLAP is that if you want to believe in those stupid archaic fairy tales, go ahead, just don't try to push your beliefs on anybody in any way- that means don't try to convert people, and don't try to tell people to act a certain way because FINGER IN THE BUTT RONALD REGAN says so. THE GIPPER tend to be the worst, because he feels most comfortable pushing their beliefs on others (think white guilt/ views on drugs/ any opinion that differs with mine) and often tend to be successful (in his own mind). That, of course, is why THE GIPPER is targeted for criticism- his attempts to push his ways on others are not appreciated by the people who are being told they are inferior for having differing beliefs.
youre like the religious crucader on slap trying to force people to listen to your bullshit, so i edited your content for relevance to our beloved messageboard. you embody what you hate in others, gip.
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.... I find religious pros about as lame as pros who smoke weed, drink beer, and print and wear weed socks in front of the camera. In other words, skaters are notorious for not following a social norm. If a religious pro disrupts or offsets the norm of "core" skate culture, then I would think that this pro is indeed a true skater. The beauty of it all is if you don't want to hear it, then you hop on your board and skate away. If it is in a video, then you press the vert button and fast forward to whichever part you desire.�
Gipper,
Not exactly. I live in a Christian Country (America), however, I don't label myself as such.� Just to clarify, when I said that I find religious pros (Prod,Summers,Hosoi,etc...) as lame as pros who smoke weed, drink beer, and "print" and wear weed socks (the baker team and Huf), I meant that there is no difference. All pros directly or indirectly associate with ideas they promote� through their behaviors, style of dress, and the things they say. Therefore, being "lame" for religious reasons does not make sense to me. You don't like something, then skate away or hit the vert button to move on with the "VX" footage you are watching.
Last I checked Puritan Ideology (which is Christian beliefs) founded this country and the majority of the language is embedded in The Constitution. Judeo-Christian ideology is still practiced by the majority of the people in power today and throughout the history of this country. Now, does that mean it's right or that things will never change, of course not. What it means for the purpose of this message board, however, is that you will still have Pros who are religious and Pros who are not. To say that religious skaters are lame is to say that skaters are lame.
Article 6 clause 3 : "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."
Amendment 1 (FIRST thing mentioned in the amendment): "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"
THAT'S ALL IT SAYS. The Constitution had many influences, but those influences don't dictate what kind of country this is. Most of the document is actually founded upon late 18th century philosophers and jurists who were mostly deist, not Christian, and I could list paragraphs of quotes of writers of the Constitution talking about how stupid religion is, and about how many problems state entanglement with religion caused in Europe, but it doesn't matter. What matters is that the founding document of this nation EXPLICITLY states that this nation does NOT have any specific religious affiliation, and that it is to allow religious pluralism- an idea that is clearly antithetical to the puritan ideology you claim is apparently the only source of the Constitution.
Religion was discussed and debated, and the final decision was that WE ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION. And its written in the fucking document you claim to cite, (without reading or understanding AT ALL.)
FUCK IGNORANCE LIKE THAT PISSES ME OFF
........lol, Like the crackhead Charlie Sheen, you are so "WINNING" right now. Thanks for making my day.
I love how you understand sarcasm.
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Messageboarders like myself ACTUALLY TAKE THAT STUPID SHIT SERIOUSLY. The 666 satan shit is completely sarcastic and mocking of obsessive religious types. They don't take it seriously, and they don't practice religious hegemony by attempting to force actual views upon somebody else. If you find that just as offensive, you are fucking stupid and completely missing the whole issue.<-(sounds like my way or the highway religious talk to me)
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My stance on SLAP is that if you want to believe in those stupid archaic fairy tales, go ahead, just don't try to push your beliefs on anybody in any way- that means don't try to convert people, and don't try to tell people to act a certain way because FINGER IN THE BUTT RONALD REGAN says so. THE GIPPER tend to be the worst, because he feels most comfortable pushing their beliefs on others (think white guilt/ views on drugs/ any opinion that differs with mine) and often tend to be successful (in his own mind). That, of course, is why THE GIPPER is targeted for criticism- his attempts to push his ways on others are not appreciated by the people who are being told they are inferior for having differing beliefs.
youre like the religious crucader on slap trying to force people to listen to your bullshit, so i edited your content for relevance to our beloved messageboard. you embody what you hate in others, gip.
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.... I find religious pros about as lame as pros who smoke weed, drink beer, and print and wear weed socks in front of the camera. In other words, skaters are notorious for not following a social norm. If a religious pro disrupts or offsets the norm of "core" skate culture, then I would think that this pro is indeed a true skater. The beauty of it all is if you don't want to hear it, then you hop on your board and skate away. If it is in a video, then you press the vert button and fast forward to whichever part you desire.�
Gipper,
Not exactly. I live in a Christian Country (America), however, I don't label myself as such.� Just to clarify, when I said that I find religious pros (Prod,Summers,Hosoi,etc...) as lame as pros who smoke weed, drink beer, and "print" and wear weed socks (the baker team and Huf), I meant that there is no difference. All pros directly or indirectly associate with ideas they promote� through their behaviors, style of dress, and the things they say. Therefore, being "lame" for religious reasons does not make sense to me. You don't like something, then skate away or hit the vert button to move on with the "VX" footage you are watching.
Last I checked Puritan Ideology (which is Christian beliefs) founded this country and the majority of the language is embedded in The Constitution. Judeo-Christian ideology is still practiced by the majority of the people in power today and throughout the history of this country. Now, does that mean it's right or that things will never change, of course not. What it means for the purpose of this message board, however, is that you will still have Pros who are religious and Pros who are not. To say that religious skaters are lame is to say that skaters are lame.
Article 6 clause 3 : "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."
Amendment 1 (FIRST thing mentioned in the amendment): "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"
THAT'S ALL IT SAYS. The Constitution had many influences, but those influences don't dictate what kind of country this is. Most of the document is actually founded upon late 18th century philosophers and jurists who were mostly deist, not Christian, and I could list paragraphs of quotes of writers of the Constitution talking about how stupid religion is, and about how many problems state entanglement with religion caused in Europe, but it doesn't matter. What matters is that the founding document of this nation EXPLICITLY states that this nation does NOT have any specific religious affiliation, and that it is to allow religious pluralism- an idea that is clearly antithetical to the puritan ideology you claim is apparently the only source of the Constitution.
Religion was discussed and debated, and the final decision was that WE ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION. And its written in the fucking document you claim to cite, (without reading or understanding AT ALL.)
FUCK IGNORANCE LIKE THAT PISSES ME OFF
........lol, Like the crackhead Charlie Sheen, you are so "WINNING" right now. Thanks for making my day.
I love how you understand sarcasm.
Come on man. What's so bad about being wrong about something?
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CHECK IT AGAIN YOU IGNORANT SHIT.
THAT'S ALL IT SAYS. .....
FUCK IGNORANCE LIKE THAT PISSES ME OFF
lol, Like the crackhead Charlie Sheen, you are so "WINNING" right now. Thanks for making my day. I love how you understand sarcasm.
Nothing. In my sarcasm Gipper labels me Christian when I never said I was Christian and therefore I think it's ironic that I continue to be sarcastic by saying America is a Christian country and Gipper looses it. I never told homie off, but he sure wants to type away on some internet beef bullshit. Cool, I get it. Christian preaching (no other religious preaching) in skateboarding is frowned upon by most on this message board. I'm sure bashing Christians is as popular as the latest Janoski color way. I aint buying, but fuck it. Do your thing.
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CHECK IT AGAIN YOU IGNORANT SHIT.
THAT'S ALL IT SAYS. .....
FUCK IGNORANCE LIKE THAT PISSES ME OFF
lol, Like the crackhead Charlie Sheen, you are so "WINNING" right now. Thanks for making my day. I love how you understand sarcasm.
Nothing. In my sarcasm Gipper labels me Christian when I never said I was Christian and therefore I think it's ironic that I continue to be sarcastic by saying America is a Christian country and Gipper looses it. I never told homie off, but he sure wants to type away on some internet beef bullshit. Cool, I get it. Christian preaching (no other religious preaching) in skateboarding is frowned upon by most on this message board. I'm sure bashing Christians is as popular as the latest Janoski color way. I aint buying, but fuck it. Do your thing.
There's hardly any preaching in skateboarding is there? I'm not worried. I just think 'lame' is a good way to describe Christians; they are the die-hard fans of the lamest story ever told. It's the tackiest system of thought to adhere to. Maybe that's why many on this message board are not too keen on it; it's just such bad style. Same goes for all muslim skate evangelicals I'm sure (who are they by the way?). I don't know, I'm drunk right now. I'm not bashing Christian skaters, but I'm also not buying your claim of being sarcastic.
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remember this gem?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUcmow9gxq0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUcmow9gxq0)
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remember this gem?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUcmow9gxq0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUcmow9gxq0)
"Jesus didn't come to give us all these do's and dont's, but he really wanted to introduce us to daddy." Then proceeds to preach about abortion, a 'jesus don't.'
Seeing this makes me happy he left skateboarding, and a side note he has a god awful switch mongo push, which is probably a 'jesus do.'
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remember this gem?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUcmow9gxq0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUcmow9gxq0)
Never seen that but I do remember this one: Richard Mulder - Wheels of Fortune, 411 #4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqd5tafXiQ4#)
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I never said 'atheism is as dangerous as religion'. I said that nihilism, which is encouraged by the brand of atheism put forward by mechanistic materialist scientists, is much more dangerous. I'm at work right now and can type up a decent reply that elaborates on this point and other ones but if you are just going to misrepresent what I wrote and claim that my position derives from an ignorance of maths and science, I won't bother. If you'd like to read what I have to share however I will happily oblige, just ask!
Sure, start off by pointing to some notable materialists which encourage nihilism, because the "new" atheists, Dawkins, Hitchens, Dennett and Harris certainly don't. They are the ones arguing that morality is an intrinsic human quality not one derived from a 1st century book under penalty of eternal damnation. And for those arguing religion isn't the reason behind wars etc what do they say about good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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religious pros are mad lame but 'lame' is better than 6 ft under, you'll notice the christian fundamentalist skate comunity isnt much for od'ing or going to jail and shit so cheers to them.
Or maybe like Lennie Kirk, who stuck up cabbies with sawed off shot guns because according to Josh Kalis, he thought God gave him permission. He never got in any trouble either.
Shitheads exist in religious and non-religious communities alike. Religious shitheads just somehow think God is blessing them in their actions (as Gator and Lennie did)
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A human trying to figure out how we got here with math is like a rat trying to figure out why it's in a cage using nothing but its own poop. �Even if someone did claim to figure it out, you'd just be taking them at their word. �You wouldn't understand it. �There are no genius mathematicians on the SLAP forum. �You essentially might as well be snake handling. �Most people side with atheism because they want to seem intelligent and independent from anything. �Or as Neal Stephenson put it;
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Ninety-nine percent of everything that goes on in most Christian churches has nothing whatsoever to do with the actual religion. Intelligent people all notice this sooner or later, and they conclude that the entire one hundred percent is bullshit, which is why atheism is connected with being intelligent in people's minds.
His point stands. Mathematics is a human abstraction; we created it. if we emerged from the universe how can the universe be based on something that emerged from us? the existence of online forums based on mathematical algorithms doesn't answer that question. What annoys me about a lot of atheists (and I would consider myself one) is that they are often astoundingly ignorant of the history and philosophy of science, and adhere to the Newtonian view of the universe with an almost 'blind faith'. They'll read some shit from some hack like Dawkins or Dennett and accept the nihilism implied in their conclusions, which is a much more dangerous belief than much of the deity worship that they so blissfully condemn.
but yeah christian skaters are annoying for the most part.
Math is an abstraction of the observable, not some crazy language we invented that has no concrete meaning or value. The fields of math and science are fields of discovery, not invention. To say that because math exists that god must is a huge leap in logic that is not necessarily true. If a god exists, it certainly must have created these laws, but because the laws exist does not mean god must.
And give it a rest with the idea that atheism is as dangerous as religion- look at Iraq, Syria, Israel, Gaza, Christian created laws in Uganda that give the death penalty to gays. NOTHING on Earth comes even close to the sort of misery, separation, pain, and death that religion unleashes. Sure it does some good, but Al Capone set up a ton of soup kitchens too.
I never said 'atheism is as dangerous as religion'. I said that nihilism, which is encouraged by the brand of atheism put forward by mechanistic materialist scientists, is much more dangerous. I'm at work right now and can type up a decent reply that elaborates on this point and other ones but if you are just going to misrepresent what I wrote and claim that my position derives from an ignorance of maths and science, I won't bother. If you'd like to read what I have to share however I will happily oblige, just ask!
I think you have point there. If religion disappears tomorrow the gap it leaves could possibly lead to extreme individualism. But with democracy it's not as likely now as 100 years ago. Maybe the world isn't ready for it yet
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:o interesting thread... its fascinating all the anger, projections, assumptions, stereotyping, and straight up hate this brought out in certain people. Many pots calling kettles the n-bomb (Reagan sure blew off some steam)
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So much hilarious backpeddling... "I was being sarcastic (when I actually formed an argument and attempted to cite ideas)."
And beer keg, jesus christ that was a sad attempt to change the subject. Really, just commenting on my last aside?
My work is done here. You can always tell when it is, because the conversation devolves from the topic into "fuck Gipper!" as soon as I've won the ACTUAL debate. Its funny seeing you guys vent the frustration of being sure you are right, but simply not being able to win the argument and getting mad at me over it.
Y'all talking shit to me are whiny and stupid jealous motherfuckers.
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Quit taking all the credit, Gip.
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Rastafari colors and images are used heavily in the marketing side of the skateboarding industry and that hasn't really been discussed in this thread. I feel like most of the kids/people who somewhat subscribe to the image ( red, gold ,and green etc.. ) don't truly know what they are representing and associate it with weed or generic reggae music. On that tip. No one has mentioned anything about any Rasta pros/ skaters.
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Nobody gives a fuck about rasta for the same reason no one gives a fuck buddhism, they don't impose themselves on anyone.
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That's kinda the strange part. I feel like if it were christian images being used it might be looked at as imposing, but since kids aren't really so in the know about what they are indirectly supporting it gets a pass. I support the use of the imagery, but think most kids who support it are ignorant to the things associated with the imagery.
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Quit taking all the credit, Gip.
credit to you as well
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Nobody gives a fuck about rasta for the same reason no one gives a fuck buddhism, they don't impose themselves on anyone.
(http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/NyjahHuston_Baby_Family_Kelle1.jpg)
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I'm sorry if it seems the rastas were getting a pass, I'll redress that right now. Fuck Rastafarians, reggae and weed is fine, homophobes and misogynists, not so much.
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I'm sorry if it seems the rastas were getting a pass, I'll redress that right now. Fuck Rastafarians, reggae and weed is fine, homophobes and misogynists, not so much.
excuse me? The greatest nation in the world, America, is built on misogyny. It's one of the very foundations of its culture and people.
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Not partaking in certain things/ practices, doesn't necessarily mean you judge others for doing so. There can be bad stigma attached to pretty much anything. I would say a good amount of skaters participate in homophobic or female disrespecting behavior, Rasta just like skating is universal. Its just strange that a belief system is so commercialized . But i guess religion has as much to do with skating as energy drinks.
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Nobody gives a fuck about rasta for the same reason no one gives a fuck buddhism, they don't impose themselves on anyone.
(http://cache.esskateboarding.com/content/posts/nyjahdadfriend.jpg)
please, as stupid as passing your religion to your kids is, its nowhere near the crime of proselytization. That's almost entirely Christianity and its sects.
But yeah, the Rasta shit in skate graphics/culture is lame, but I think its lame for a different reason. Those companies aren't actually pushing the religion of Rastafari, they are culturally appropriating its imagery and symbolism for profit, which is probably worse.
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Gipper pretty much said what I was trying to say. But in a more eloquent manner.
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While some companies were trying to project images they were genuinely trying to promote or messages they were genuinely trying to convey, the majority of them were just trying to commercialize off a lifestyle they had zero or very little to do with.
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yeah, they don't know what any of that shit means, nor do they care. But a lion of judah board on a red,gold, and green background could sell to the kids who like reggae and weed.
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Pretty much every major board company/ distro is guilty of this.
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Sweet! Let's make internet history and end a thread about religion with a consensus- regardless of the validity of religious beliefs in general, the appropriation of rastafari imagery in skateboarding is pretty lame.
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Don't know if I'd go that far. Rastafari has always had it's valid place in skate culture. It's the bastardization of this place in skate culture that is used to sell products. So I guess my official answer is: Illegitimate use of religious imagery in skateboarding is lame.
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Pretty much every major board company/ distro is guilty of this.
I remember in an interview Hershel (Girl graphic designer in case you don't know) said weed/rasta graphics aren't creative or fun to make but they sell like hot cakes. Makes sense that every company is trying to get a piece of that pie. I wonder how a company, that was solely about weed, would do?
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Like my status if you think Creation and Satori are just a bunch of posers.
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http://youtu.be/O718bjrZwA4 (http://youtu.be/O718bjrZwA4)
rasta skater thread!
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I think you lose all credibility when you only villainize Christians. Where do you idiots come up with this shit? Muslims don't actively try to convert people to Islam? There are no such things as violent Buddhists? What the fuck are you guys reading? You two are such biased, petty people.
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Pretty much every major board company/ distro is guilty of this.
I remember in an interview Hershel (Girl graphic designer in case you don't know) said weed/rasta graphics aren't creative or fun to make but they sell like hot cakes. Makes sense that every company is trying to get a piece of that pie. I wonder how a company, that was solely about weed, would do?
Lets be honest, unless you skate, Huf is nothing but weed socks.
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jeez! ronald wilson i said "religious skate community" not got dam lennie kirk and gator! (lol) but point taken , religion bad, got it
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Nobody gives a fuck about rasta for the same reason no one gives a fuck buddhism, they don't impose themselves on anyone.
(http://cache.esskateboarding.com/content/posts/nyjahdadfriend.jpg)
But yeah, the Rasta shit in skate graphics/culture is lame, but I think its lame for a different reason. Those companies aren't actually pushing the religion of Rastafari, they are culturally appropriating its imagery and symbolism for profit, which is probably worse.
stop talking shit on christianity and then bitch the fuck out when anyone even slightly mentions jews in a negative light. i think everyone should just block the gipper with his over 20k posts of bull shit
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I think you lose all credibility when you only villainize Christians.� Where do you idiots come up with this shit?� Muslims don't actively try to convert people to Islam?� There are no such things as violent Buddhists?� What the fuck are you guys reading?� You two are such biased, petty people.
What the fuck are you talking about? We talk about Christianity because they're the ones in power where we're from and they are the ones that effect us on a daily basis. How is that hard for you to understand? Being angry that people legislate and move the masses to act and vote based on fairy tales is in no way petty or biased. It is observation of real phenomena that we should rightfully be screaming in protest against. That is besides the fact that I did talk about Islam being bad too. I know I'd rather live here than the theocracy of Saudiranistan. I don't know if you know this but, Sharia Law is bad. As for Buddhists, the core of Buddhism is pacifism. There are belligerent people of all faiths or lack thereof, but Violent Buddhists is an oxymoron. You will find a lot less violence in the much longer history of Buddhism than you find in any of the Abrahamic religions. If you think anything Gip has said in this thread makes him lose credibility with you, you have lost credibility with me.
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Nobody gives a fuck about rasta for the same reason no one gives a fuck buddhism, they don't impose themselves on anyone.
(http://cache.esskateboarding.com/content/posts/nyjahdadfriend.jpg)
But yeah, the Rasta shit in skate graphics/culture is lame, but I think its lame for a different reason. Those companies aren't actually pushing the religion of Rastafari, they are culturally appropriating its imagery and symbolism for profit, which is probably worse.
stop talking shit on christianity and then bitch the fuck out when anyone even slightly mentions jews in a negative light. i think everyone should just block the gipper with his over 20k posts of bull shit
Not that I don't find the Gipper annoying as fuck, but I'm curious; have you actually ever had a jew knock on your door trying to get you to convert? I'd put a lot of money on your answer being "no".
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I think you lose all credibility when you only villainize Christians.� Where do you idiots come up with this shit?� Muslims don't actively try to convert people to Islam?� There are no such things as violent Buddhists?� What the fuck are you guys reading?� You two are such biased, petty people.
It seems that everyone in this thread regardless of thier faith agrees that religious zealotry isn't healthy. I'm making an assumption but I bet that the dominant religion in the countries of most of the posters on this message board is Christianity or some direct relative which worships Christ. It should come as no surprise to you that there is less criticism of Buddhism or Islam only based on the statistical sampling of the posters - pesky math again, I know. Not being an expert in world comparitive religion does not exclude you from forming an opinion on things which directly effect your life and the lives of those around you. You are right though I am biased because I don't think religious influence should play any part in the political structure of the country I live in.
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Nobody gives a fuck about rasta for the same reason no one gives a fuck buddhism, they don't impose themselves on anyone.
(http://cache.esskateboarding.com/content/posts/nyjahdadfriend.jpg)
But yeah, the Rasta shit in skate graphics/culture is lame, but I think its lame for a different reason. Those companies aren't actually pushing the religion of Rastafari, they are culturally appropriating its imagery and symbolism for profit, which is probably worse.
stop talking shit on christianity and then bitch the fuck out when anyone even slightly mentions jews in a negative light. i think everyone should just block the gipper with his over 20k posts of bull shit
Judaism is about the only religion that I can think of that does not actively recruit.
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Judaism is about the only religion that I can think of that does not actively recruit.
its true that Judaism doesn't actively recruit people outside the religion, there are rules against proselytizing to outsiders. However, on the inside; all that birthright stuff is really just recruiting moderates and the apathetic to make aliyah and marry inside the faith. In a lot of conservative sects huge emphasis on detaching from the local "community" for the sake of becoming closer to the Jewish community. even in the more moderate congregations there is an emphasis looking out for your own and networking with other jews. in my opinion these are just a different species of recruiting. same goals, different means.
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Judaism is about the only religion that I can think of that does not actively recruit.
its true that Judaism doesn't actively recruit people outside the religion, there are rules against proselytizing to outsiders. However, on the inside; all that birthright stuff is really just recruiting moderates and the apathetic to make aliyah and marry inside the faith. In a lot of conservative sects huge emphasis on detaching from the local "community" for the sake of becoming closer to the Jewish community. even in the more moderate congregations there is an emphasis looking out for your own and networking with other jews. in my opinion these are just a different species of recruiting. same goals, different means.
Damn straight, I used to live near Caulfield and Bentliegh in Melbourne
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Nobody gives a fuck about rasta for the same reason no one gives a fuck buddhism, they don't impose themselves on anyone.
(http://cache.esskateboarding.com/content/posts/nyjahdadfriend.jpg)
But yeah, the Rasta shit in skate graphics/culture is lame, but I think its lame for a different reason. Those companies aren't actually pushing the religion of Rastafari, they are culturally appropriating its imagery and symbolism for profit, which is probably worse.
stop talking shit on christianity and then bitch the fuck out when anyone even slightly mentions jews in a negative light. i think everyone should just block the gipper with his over 20k posts of bull shit
actually i did, i still have the pamphlet somewhere around here somewhere. just because most of them dont doesnt mean they all dont. ive never had a catholic or lutheran knock on my door to convert me, just a jahovas witness and some random jewish sect.
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Nobody gives a fuck about rasta for the same reason no one gives a fuck buddhism, they don't impose themselves on anyone.
(http://cache.esskateboarding.com/content/posts/nyjahdadfriend.jpg)
But yeah, the Rasta shit in skate graphics/culture is lame, but I think its lame for a different reason. Those companies aren't actually pushing the religion of Rastafari, they are culturally appropriating its imagery and symbolism for profit, which is probably worse.
stop talking shit on christianity and then bitch the fuck out when anyone even slightly mentions jews in a negative light. i think everyone should just block the gipper with his over 20k posts of bull shit
actually i did, i still have the pamphlet somewhere around here somewhere. just because most of them dont doesnt mean they all dont. ive never had a catholic or lutheran knock on my door to convert me, just a jahovas witness and some random jewish sect.
It wasn't Jews for Jesus was it? Because they recruit and are preaching in public.
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I think you lose all credibility when you only villainize Christians.� Where do you idiots come up with this shit?� Muslims don't actively try to convert people to Islam?� There are no such things as violent Buddhists?� What the fuck are you guys reading?� You two are such biased, petty people.
I'm not talking about a random sampling of posters. I'm talking about two arrogant cunts who should know better.
Buddhism is a comparatively smaller religion whose populations have less guns, but they still have committed awful acts of violence regardless, especially in countries where they are the majority group (very few). Buddhist monks have a long history of enabling violence using scriptures to excuse their actions much like any other religion or secular government.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/01/asian-buddhism-fundamentalism_n_5248880.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/01/asian-buddhism-fundamentalism_n_5248880.html)
Christianity or religion doesn't make people stupid and violent, human nature does. I'd say if anything Christianity is a net positive.
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You're out of your fucking mind. And it's not that there aren't fundamentalist Buddhists, it's that there are much less than in Abrahamic religions. The Abrahamic faiths represent half of the entire population of the world at 3.7 billion practitioners. We're talking about the religions that effect us and have a high profile where we are, and those religions effects are many magnitudes greater than that of others. Net positive? In this period of time? Are you fucking insane? Maybe in antiquity when having an unquestioning common belief in something bigger than ourselves was a means of keeping us together and making sense of senseless world. Today religion is little more than a tool of segregation for the powers that be, and a massive weight on our shoulders hindering progress. As a species, it is time for us to move on. Sure, many individuals find strength in their faith, but the world isn't about individuals. What members of this collective we call society believe inarguably effects us all.
No, you should know better.
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You're out of your fucking mind. And it's not that there aren't fundamentalist Buddhists, it's that there are much less than in Abrahamic religions. The Abrahamic faiths represent half of the entire population of the world at 3.7 billion practitioners. We're talking about the religions that effect us and have a high profile where we are, and those religions effects are many magnitudes greater than that of others. Net positive? In this period of time? Are you fucking insane? Maybe in antiquity when having an unquestioning common belief in something bigger than ourselves was a means of keeping us together and making sense of senseless world. Today religion is little more than a tool of segregation for the powers that be, and a massive weight on our shoulders hindering progress. As a species, it is time for us to move on. Sure, many individuals find strength in their faith, but the world isn't about individuals. What members of this collective we call society believe inarguably effects us all.
No, you should know better.
actually you should know better, just because its not like that in the united states where you happen to live doesnt mean there arent super fundamentalist eastern religions recruiting and waging wars to influence their religious views on everyone else...
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That is just your ridiculous skewed viewpoint on Christianity. It's like you think 9/10 Christians are young earth creationists who spent a couple years learning how to hate properly at Westboro.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_by_country#mediaviewer/File:Christians_distribution.png
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory#mediaviewer/File:World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg
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And for the last fucking time, we're only talking about Christianity because that's what we have to deal with here. I'm not going to talk about Zoroastrianism because I don't know any fucking Zoroastrians, Zoroastrians don't vote and run for office based on their faith, and never have I had a Zoroastrian knock on my door to spread the good word. I haven't talked shit about them because I like them, I haven't talked shit about them because their effect on me is minimal. Their religion is still more than likely a huge steaming pile of bullshit. This thread is about religious pros, not Christian pros. If Hinduism was that dominant religion in the west and bunch of pros were practicing it, I would be talking about how I hate their influence on me and the rest of the world. A propensity for violence and forced conformity being a part of the human condition is irrelevant. What does matter is that religion is a weapon that not only uses those propensities, but actively inspires them. I already made an analogy about that and if you had bothered to read and comprehend anything I've said in this thread you would know that.
And I just fucking said that I'm not negating fundamentalism in other faiths in other regions. That is completely irrelevant to the conversation. Absolutely no one said all Christians are hate mongers. That doesn't make Christianity's influence a good thing just because most people are good. Good people still believe in stupid things that lead to stupid effects that make for a dumber world.
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Shut the fuck up you ignorant christian chauvinist. Christians are by far the most arrogant and chauvinistic about pushing their religion on others. I've NEVER had a muslim knock on my door to convert me. I've never walked outside and seen that my city has paid tax dollars to put up ramadan decorations, I've NEVER heard any Muslim claim this is a "muslim nation" despite clear and repeated explicit statements making us a pluralist secular nation. I've never heard of a group of concerned muslims forcing schools to change their biology textbook. You know who does do all of that shit? FUCKING CHRISTIANS. Its not the belief that pisses a lot of people off, its your arrogant assumption that you are superior, deserve to have your religion privileged, and force others with no interest whatsoever in believing in your religion to follow your religious rules.
THAT is why Christianity gets the most shit- its because you guys, in a complete lack of self-awareness, are the most oppressive to others who are not of your religion BY FAR. You guys are so shameless about thinking we should all share "christian values" (you know, like hating gay peopleand believing women who are raped should carry their rapists baby) but at the same time, every time you are confronted with it, you play this bullshit "oppressed christian" card that really just makes you look even more fucking stupid and more fucking whiny.
Let the muslims practice in peace. Fucking Christians are the problem.
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You're out of your fucking mind. And it's not that there aren't fundamentalist Buddhists, it's that there are much less than in Abrahamic religions. The Abrahamic faiths represent half of the entire population of the world at 3.7 billion practitioners. We're talking about the religions that effect us and have a high profile where we are, and those religions effects are many magnitudes greater than that of others. Net positive? In this period of time? Are you fucking insane? Maybe in antiquity when having an unquestioning common belief in something bigger than ourselves was a means of keeping us together and making sense of senseless world. Today religion is little more than a tool of segregation for the powers that be, and a massive weight on our shoulders hindering progress. As a species, it is time for us to move on. Sure, many individuals find strength in their faith, but the world isn't about individuals. What members of this collective we call society believe inarguably effects us all.
No, you should know better.
actually you should know better, just because its not like that in the united states where you happen to live doesnt mean there arent super fundamentalist eastern religions recruiting and waging wars to influence their religious views on everyone else...
True. Religious zealotry is a large if not the entirety of the problem. The 'I'm right, you're wrong' stance with the word of 'god' as your evidence is an incredibly dangerous viewpoint. For clarification, I'm not trying to be 'right', that is of no consequence or value to me. This is a healthy and intersting discourse.
Edit: the origin of the fundimentalism is a moot point.
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Nobody gives a fuck about rasta for the same reason no one gives a fuck buddhism, they don't impose themselves on anyone.
(http://cache.esskateboarding.com/content/posts/nyjahdadfriend.jpg)
But yeah, the Rasta shit in skate graphics/culture is lame, but I think its lame for a different reason. Those companies aren't actually pushing the religion of Rastafari, they are culturally appropriating its imagery and symbolism for profit, which is probably worse.
stop talking shit on christianity and then bitch the fuck out when anyone even slightly mentions jews in a negative light. i think everyone should just block the gipper with his over 20k posts of bull shit
Isn't that weird? It's cool and hip to shit all over "religion" as long as you're referring to "Christians", but if you EVER dare criticize "Jews" you are a hateful nazi scumfuck ignorant lowlife who should be euthanized....strange world we live in.
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Nobody gives a fuck about rasta for the same reason no one gives a fuck buddhism, they don't impose themselves on anyone.
(http://cache.esskateboarding.com/content/posts/nyjahdadfriend.jpg)
But yeah, the Rasta shit in skate graphics/culture is lame, but I think its lame for a different reason. Those companies aren't actually pushing the religion of Rastafari, they are culturally appropriating its imagery and symbolism for profit, which is probably worse.
stop talking shit on christianity and then bitch the fuck out when anyone even slightly mentions jews in a negative light. i think everyone should just block the gipper with his over 20k posts of bull shit
doesn't actively recruit because outsiders not born into the "race" are considered subhuman...it's actually one of the most racist and violent ideologies in the world...who determines US foreign policy??? Ever read the Talmud?
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I think you lose all credibility when you only villainize Christians.� Where do you idiots come up with this shit?� Muslims don't actively try to convert people to Islam?� There are no such things as violent Buddhists?� What the fuck are you guys reading?� You two are such biased, petty people.
I'm not talking about a random sampling of posters. I'm talking about two arrogant cunts who should know better.
Buddhism is a comparatively smaller religion whose populations have less guns, but they still have committed awful acts of violence regardless, especially in countries where they are the majority group (very few). Buddhist monks have a long history of enabling violence using scriptures to excuse their actions much like any other religion or secular government.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/01/asian-buddhism-fundamentalism_n_5248880.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/01/asian-buddhism-fundamentalism_n_5248880.html)
Christianity or religion doesn't make people stupid and violent, human nature does. I'd say if anything Christianity is a net positive.
it's good to see some people with intellectual and historical scope here...one of the greatest genocides of the 20th century happened in the Soviet Union and was perpetuated against political dissidents (mainly christians) and rationalized by an atheist communist ideology...and what about Pol Pot and Mau??? These are the biggest massacres in recent history, all of which were on behalf of atheistic political machines
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The Communist dictatorship argument is a pure strawman Pol Pot, Mao, and Stalin may not have been Christian, but they weren't fighting for atheism, they were fighting for a political system. If we count every time a person of that religion/lack of religion committed an atrocity then most of the U.S. murders in Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, Central America, Germany (x2), Japan (including the Nuclear bombs), The Philippines (whom the U.S. massacred EXPLICITLY with the purpose of Christianizing the Catholic nation) were for Christianity. That's probably at least equal, then we have slavery, which was defended using specific passages in the bible which advocated slavery. Now lets look at other countries- The Holocaust? A nation of Christians killing off non-christians with a blessing from the pope (who hope the Nazis would give the Vatican its own state). Should I keep going? Because really its pointless, there has never been an army of atheists marching through a town to kill the Christians, but religious based hate-riots happen all the time- In Israel, in surrounding Arab nations, in India, in the U.S.A. See the difference?
Hey Christians, you have complete control over American society. Your place in American society is PRIVILEGED. Other religions ARE NOT. Jesus son of a lying whore Christ, how fucking stupid do you have to be to not realize that? People in this thread are arguing that Christianity is written into the Constitution, and that we are a "Christian nation." Not only is that untrue, but it is some bullshit specifically pulled by Christians, and even though they know its a lie, they push it anyway- mostly because of their social power and privilege within American society. They take that privilege and push it on minority religions. But hey, keep playing the victim here. Everybody feels SOOOOOOO sorry for you. You spend 99% of your time assuming everybody has the same beliefs as you, and that it is ok for you to push your beliefs on them. TAKE A SECOND TO SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LISTEN FOR THE FIRST TIME IN YOUR LIFE INSTEAD OF CRYING ABOUT HOW OTHER RELIGIONS DON'T GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF CRITICISM AS YOU. Instead of jumping into the defensive position, maybe take one fucking second of your selfish and arrogant life to be self-reflective- ask yourself, "why is it my religion is subject to such criticism?" Instead of instantly assuming it has never done anything wrong, and that others must be bad for criticizing it, SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LISTEN.
Now lets get to the real sin of your arguments. EVERY RELIGION HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP IN THIS THREAD. The pathetic trash trying to pull out the antisemitism and claiming that Jews somehow don't get any sort of criticism- are you just to fucking stupid to understand what I was referring to when I said religion was a huge cause of pain and misery between Israel and Palestine? Apparently the answer is YES- YOU ARE! The fact that some of you are even claiming you've been proselytized by jews is fucking stupid. I also believe I mentioned India and Pakistan, two nations that also aren't Christian. But geez, why is it a population only making up 2% of the U.S. population doesn't get as much criticism as the group that makes up 85% of the nation? It must be because everybody is unfairly attacking the poor Christians who just want to conquer the world and force everybody to think exactly like them.
Of course, the most privileged group ALWAYS is the one that bitches the loudest when their group is being discussed, so you have a ton of rabid christians crying about how its not fair that people are mad at them for forcing their religion on most of the world. Cry me a fucking river.
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Messageboarders like myself ACTUALLY TAKE THAT STUPID SHIT SERIOUSLY. The 666 satan shit is completely sarcastic and mocking of obsessive religious types. They don't take it seriously, and they don't practice religious hegemony by attempting to force actual views upon somebody else. If you find that just as offensive, you are fucking stupid and completely missing the whole issue.<-(sounds like my way or the highway religious talk to me)
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My stance on SLAP is that if you want to believe in those stupid archaic fairy tales, go ahead, just don't try to push your beliefs on anybody in any way- that means don't try to convert people, and don't try to tell people to act a certain way because FINGER IN THE BUTT RONALD REGAN says so. THE GIPPER tend to be the worst, because he feels most comfortable pushing their beliefs on others (think white guilt/ views on drugs/ any opinion that differs with mine) and often tend to be successful (in his own mind). That, of course, is why THE GIPPER is targeted for criticism- his attempts to push his ways on others are not appreciated by the people who are being told they are inferior for having differing beliefs.
youre like the religious crucader on slap trying to force people to listen to your bullshit, so i edited your content for relevance to our beloved messageboard. you embody what you hate in others, gip.
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.... I find religious pros about as lame as pros who smoke weed, drink beer, and print and wear weed socks in front of the camera. In other words, skaters are notorious for not following a social norm. If a religious pro disrupts or offsets the norm of "core" skate culture (THE BEGINNING OF MY SARCASM), then I would think that this pro is indeed a true skater. The beauty of it all is if you don't want to hear it, then you hop on your board and skate away. If it is in a video, then you press the vert button (MORE SARCASM) and fast forward to whichever part you desire.
Gipper,
Not exactly. I live in a Christian Country (America), however, I don't label myself as such. (MY SARCASM IN RESPONSE TO GIPPER'S ASS-UPTION Just to clarify, when I said that I find religious pros (Prod,Summers,Hosoi,etc...) as lame as pros who smoke weed, drink beer, and "print" and wear weed socks (the baker team and Huf), I meant that there is no difference. All pros directly or indirectly associate with ideas they promote through their behaviors, style of dress, and the things they say. Therefore, being "lame" for religious reasons does not make sense to me. You don't like something, then skate away or hit the vert button to move on with the "VX" footage you are watching.(MORE SARCASM, BUT IT DID NOT SEEM TO DISTURB ANYONE)
Last I checked Puritan Ideology (which is Christian beliefs) founded this country and the majority of the language is embedded in The Constitution. Judeo-Christian ideology is still practiced by the majority of the people in power today and throughout the history of this country. Now, does that mean it's right or that things will never change, of course not. What it means for the purpose of this message board, however, is that you will still have Pros who are religious and Pros who are not. To say that religious skaters are lame is to say that skaters are lame.
Article 6 clause 3 : "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."
Amendment 1 (FIRST thing mentioned in the amendment): "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" (GIPPER'S TUNNEL VISION AND HIS INABILITY TO SEE HISTORICAL CONTEXT, SUCH AS THE INFLUENCE OF JONATHAN EDWARD'S "SINNERS IN THE HANDS OF AN ANGRY GOD AND THE PURITAN IDEOLOGY AND INFLUENCE THAT WENT IN TO THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE AND CONSTITUTION. HE FAILS TO SEE IT BUT GOES ON TO ARGUE THAT "CHRISTIANITY" IS A "PRIVILEGE" RELIGION THAT FORCES ITS INFLUENCE THROUGHOUT THE WORLD
THAT'S ALL IT SAYS. The Constitution had many influences, but those influences don't dictate what kind of country this is. (SOON AFTER THIS, WHEN IT CONVENIENCES HIM, HE GOES ON TO SAY THAT AMERICAN IS CRISTIAN, WHAT A JOKE) Most of the document is actually founded upon late 18th century philosophers and jurists who were mostly deist, not Christian, and I could list paragraphs of quotes of writers of the Constitution talking about how stupid religion is, and about how many problems state entanglement with religion caused in Europe, but it doesn't matter. What matters is that the founding document of this nation EXPLICITLY states that this nation does NOT have any specific religious affiliation, and that it is to allow religious pluralism- an idea that is clearly antithetical to the puritan ideology you claim is apparently the only source of the Constitution.
Religion was discussed and debated, and the final decision was that WE ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION. And its written in the fucking document you claim to cite, (without reading or understanding AT ALL.) (GIPPER DEMONSTRATES HIS LACK OF UNDERSTANDING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "CITING" AND "REFERENCING," SINCE I NEVER CITED. I'M SURE THAT HE THINKS THAT "PARAPHRASING," "QUOTING," AND "PLAGIARISM" ARE ALL EQUAL WORDS.)
FUCK IGNORANCE LIKE THAT PISSES ME OFF (MORE OF GIPPERS ELEGANT LANGUAGE {LET ME BREAK THE 4TH WALL AND TELL YOU THAT THIS IS "SARCASM"})
ABOVE YOU WILL FIND THE CHRONOLOGY OF MY ARGUMENT WITH GIPPER. IN BOLD YOU WILL SEE GIPPER JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS AND LOOSING SOME CONTROL (really funny to see him in this state).
LET ME REMIND YOU AGAIN, "LIKE THE CRACK-HEAD CHARLIE SHEEN, YOU ARE SO 'WINNING'" THIS ARGUMENT.
CHARLIE SHEEN PLAYED THE PRESIDENT IN A ROBERT RODRIGUEZ FILM. HE WAS MEANT TO LOOK LIKE "RONALD REGAN." I SEE NOW THAT YOU AND CHARLIE ARE TWO SOULS IN ONE BODY (THIS IS SARCASM, I KNOW THAT YOU ARE NOT THE FORMER PRESIDENT, YOU JUST WANT TO PERSONIFY SUCH AN IDEA. LOL)
I went ahead and took the time to give a chronology of your argument. I do this to set the record straight and not for you Gipper. I know you will continue to argue your pseudo rhetoric and in your own twisted mind your ideas are made from something of "value," I don't agree, but like I said before, I'll skate on. Have you ever thought of a career as a "preacher," you seem to argue religiously and passionately (like Christ) {NOTE FOR GIPPER, THIS IS MORE SARCASM, WORD PLAY ON "PASSION OF THE CHRIST" AND SARCASM TO SHOW YOU HOW YOU REALLY RESEMBLE THOSE RELIGIOUS PEOPLE YOU HATE).
All in all, my central point from the beginning is that religious pros are not lame. People are lame. The skater is not lame. I don't think HUF or the Baker squad is lame. Maybe if I knew one of them on a personal level, then I could formulate a better opinion. In my youth I skated often with Weston Correa (Who used to be religious. Haven't seen him in some time so I don't know if he still is) and Richard Mulder (Never once had a conversation about religion with him) and all my experiences dealt with them as people who skated. None of those dudes were lame. I talked more about Christianity with Gonz, than any other pro I know. I don't think Mark is lame (Weird is a different story). Anyhow, Gipper jib jab jipper away (SARCASM)
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The Communist dictatorship argument is a pure strawman Pol Pot, Mao, and Stalin may not have been Christian, but they weren't fighting for atheism, they were fighting for a political system. If we count every time a person of that religion/lack of religion committed an atrocity then most of the U.S. murders in Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, Central America, Germany (x2), Japan (including the Nuclear bombs), The Philippines (whom the U.S. massacred EXPLICITLY with the purpose of Christianizing the Catholic nation) were for Christianity. That's probably at least equal, then we have slavery, which was defended using specific passages in the bible which advocated slavery. Now lets look at other countries- The Holocaust? A nation of Christians killing off non-christians with a blessing from the pope (who hope the Nazis would give the Vatican its own state). Should I keep going? Because really its pointless, there has never been an army of atheists marching through a town to kill the Christians, but religious based hate-riots happen all the time- In Israel, in surrounding Arab nations, in India, in the U.S.A. See the difference?
Hey Christians, you have complete control over American society. Your place in American society is PRIVILEGED. Other religions ARE NOT. Jesus son of a lying whore Christ, how fucking stupid do you have to be to not realize that? People in this thread are arguing that Christianity is written into the Constitution, and that we are a "Christian nation." Not only is that untrue, but it is some bullshit specifically pulled by Christians, and even though they know its a lie, they push it anyway- mostly because of their social power and privilege within American society. They take that privilege and push it on minority religions. But hey, keep playing the victim here. Everybody feels SOOOOOOO sorry for you. You spend 99% of your time assuming everybody has the same beliefs as you, and that it is ok for you to push your beliefs on them. TAKE A SECOND TO SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LISTEN FOR THE FIRST TIME IN YOUR LIFE INSTEAD OF CRYING ABOUT HOW OTHER RELIGIONS DON'T GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF CRITICISM AS YOU. Instead of jumping into the defensive position, maybe take one fucking second of your selfish and arrogant life to be self-reflective- ask yourself, "why is it my religion is subject to such criticism?" Instead of instantly assuming it has never done anything wrong, and that others must be bad for criticizing it, SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LISTEN.
Now lets get to the real sin of your arguments. EVERY RELIGION HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP IN THIS THREAD. The pathetic trash trying to pull out the antisemitism and claiming that Jews somehow don't get any sort of criticism- are you just to fucking stupid to understand what I was referring to when I said religion was a huge cause of pain and misery between Israel and Palestine? Apparently the answer is YES- YOU ARE! The fact that some of you are even claiming you've been proselytized by jews is fucking stupid. I also believe I mentioned India and Pakistan, two nations that also aren't Christian. But geez, why is it a population only making up 2% of the U.S. population doesn't get as much criticism as the group that makes up 85% of the nation? It must be because everybody is unfairly attacking the poor Christians who just want to conquer the world and force everybody to think exactly like them.
Of course, the most privileged group ALWAYS is the one that bitches the loudest when their group is being discussed, so you have a ton of rabid christians crying about how its not fair that people are mad at them for forcing their religion on most of the world. Cry me a fucking river.
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The Communist dictatorship argument is a pure strawman Pol Pot, Mao, and Stalin may not have been Christian, but they weren't fighting for atheism, they were fighting for a political system. If we count every time a person of that religion/lack of religion committed an atrocity then most of the U.S. murders in Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, Central America, Germany (x2), Japan (including the Nuclear bombs), The Philippines (whom the U.S. massacred EXPLICITLY with the purpose of Christianizing the Catholic nation) were for Christianity. That's probably at least equal, then we have slavery, which was defended using specific passages in the bible which advocated slavery. Now lets look at other countries- The Holocaust? A nation of Christians killing off non-christians with a blessing from the pope (who hope the Nazis would give the Vatican its own state). Should I keep going? Because really its pointless, there has never been an army of atheists marching through a town to kill the Christians, but religious based hate-riots happen all the time- In Israel, in surrounding Arab nations, in India, in the U.S.A. See the difference?
Hey Christians, you have complete control over American society. Your place in American society is PRIVILEGED. Other religions ARE NOT. Jesus son of a lying whore Christ, how fucking stupid do you have to be to not realize that? People in this thread are arguing that Christianity is written into the Constitution, and that we are a "Christian nation." Not only is that untrue, but it is some bullshit specifically pulled by Christians, and even though they know its a lie, they push it anyway- mostly because of their social power and privilege within American society. They take that privilege and push it on minority religions. But hey, keep playing the victim here. Everybody feels SOOOOOOO sorry for you. You spend 99% of your time assuming everybody has the same beliefs as you, and that it is ok for you to push your beliefs on them. TAKE A SECOND TO SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LISTEN FOR THE FIRST TIME IN YOUR LIFE INSTEAD OF CRYING ABOUT HOW OTHER RELIGIONS DON'T GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF CRITICISM AS YOU. Instead of jumping into the defensive position, maybe take one fucking second of your selfish and arrogant life to be self-reflective- ask yourself, "why is it my religion is subject to such criticism?" Instead of instantly assuming it has never done anything wrong, and that others must be bad for criticizing it, SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LISTEN.
Now lets get to the real sin of your arguments. EVERY RELIGION HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP IN THIS THREAD. The pathetic trash trying to pull out the antisemitism and claiming that Jews somehow don't get any sort of criticism- are you just to fucking stupid to understand what I was referring to when I said religion was a huge cause of pain and misery between Israel and Palestine? Apparently the answer is YES- YOU ARE! The fact that some of you are even claiming you've been proselytized by jews is fucking stupid. I also believe I mentioned India and Pakistan, two nations that also aren't Christian. But geez, why is it a population only making up 2% of the U.S. population doesn't get as much criticism as the group that makes up 85% of the nation? It must be because everybody is unfairly attacking the poor Christians who just want to conquer the world and force everybody to think exactly like them.
Of course, the most privileged group ALWAYS is the one that bitches the loudest when their group is being discussed, so you have a ton of rabid christians crying about how its not fair that people are mad at them for forcing their religion on most of the world. Cry me a fucking river.
"The Holocaust"??? How about Armenia? Russia? China? Those were much larger holocausts than what you are inaccurately referring to - and no, its not "antisemitic' to criticize Jews (most of whom are not semitic) - it's just funny how you can spout off all this hatred towards "Christians" (whom you loosely define and blame for EVERYTHING), but if someone criticizes Jews in a similar way they are jumped all over and called a nazi bigot. More people were exterminated in the Soviet Union in the name of eradicating religions to be replaced by worship of the state and its political figureheads - the state worshiping atheistic ideology embodies your definition of religion, yet that's not as deplorable as the "Christians" you perceive as the root of all evil.
Most of the people pointing out the hypocrisy of your statements and projected loathing of christians are not even christians...I never claimed to be a Christian I just pointed out the hypocrisy and twisted logic you employ to justify your hatred (like any religious zealot). Funny how personally you seem to take all of this, you are coming off as much more imbalanced and hateful than any Christian Ive ever met.
Anyways, it must be really awesome having nothing better to do than post 21,083 times on a forum and completely drown every thread with your personal hang-ups and projections...not to mention the smugness one gets to exude when he knows literally everything.
Anybody know what Ronald Wilson Reagan does for a living? Any guesses?
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"The Holocaust"??? How about Armenia? Russia? China? Those were much larger holocausts than what you are inaccurately referring to - and no, its not "antisemitic' to criticize Jews (most of whom are not semitic). More people were exterminated in the Soviet Union in the name of eradicating religions to be replaced by worship of the state and its political figureheads - this embodies your definition of religion.
Most of the people pointing out the hypocrisy of your statements and projected loathing of christians are not even christians...includig myself. FUnny how personally you seem to take this, you are coming off as much more imbalanced and hateful than any Christian Ive ever met. Anyways, it must be really awesome having nothing better to do than post 21,083 times on a forum and completely drown every thread with your personal hang-ups and projections...not to mention the smugness one gets to exude when he knows literally everything.
Anybody know what Ronald Wilson Reagan does for a living? Any guesses?
i remember when i was 16.
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hahha ok, religious pros like this guy are fucking lame- but this guy isnt worthy of the spiteful loathing that Gipper is projecting. Guys who kill it and have faith in what they call God like Jamie Thomas, Lance Mountain....I dont see them any differently because they believe in God
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Nobody gives a fuck about rasta for the same reason no one gives a fuck buddhism, they don't impose themselves on anyone.
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But yeah, the Rasta shit in skate graphics/culture is lame, but I think its lame for a different reason. Those companies aren't actually pushing the religion of Rastafari, they are culturally appropriating its imagery and symbolism for profit, which is probably worse.
stop talking shit on christianity and then bitch the fuck out when anyone even slightly mentions jews in a negative light. i think everyone should just block the gipper with his over 20k posts of bull shit
Several religions don't actually. It's because Judaism is an ethnic religion, and ethnic religions don't proselytize because it was created to appeal to a certain group of people. The holidays are based off of season in the middle east, and while they accept people to convert (with a large grain of salt) they just don't feel the need because it is exclusive. /humangeography
As for my personal $.02, I was born and raised christian and I'm still a christian...kind of. I'm not "on fire for Jesus" like I used to be and although I read my bible every day, I don't believe that everything in it is exactly true and 100% happened and is a complete factual account. I usually tend to question my religion and lately I've been balancing between atheism/agnosticism and christianity. I don't really talk about my beliefs though and I honestly don't give a flying fuck what anyone cares about. I hate when people try to shove that shit down my throat, I mean, I guess its cool to talk about as long as you're not treating everyone subpar because they don't think what you think. On a side note, didn't Jordan Richter say he converted to Islam in an interview a few years ago?
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Nobody gives a fuck about rasta for the same reason no one gives a fuck buddhism, they don't impose themselves on anyone.
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But yeah, the Rasta shit in skate graphics/culture is lame, but I think its lame for a different reason. Those companies aren't actually pushing the religion of Rastafari, they are culturally appropriating its imagery and symbolism for profit, which is probably worse.
stop talking shit on christianity and then bitch the fuck out when anyone even slightly mentions jews in a negative light. i think everyone should just block the gipper with his over 20k posts of bull shit
As for my personal $.02, I was born and raised christian and I'm still a christian...kind of. I'm not "on fire for Jesus" like I used to be and although I read my bible every day, I don't believe that everything in it is exactly true and 100% happened and is a complete factual account. I usually tend to question my religion and lately I've been balancing between atheism/agnosticism and christianity. I don't really talk about my beliefs though and I honestly don't give a flying fuck what anyone cares about. I hate when people try to shove that shit down my throat, I mean, I guess its cool to talk about as long as you're not treating everyone subpar because they don't think what you think. On a side note, didn't Jordan Richter say he converted to Islam in an interview a few years ago?
You fucking bigoted, racist, hateful, piece of scum fucking shit!!! How DARE you come on here and spout that Christian hate speech!!! This is a secular nation stop forcing your beliefs down our throat! Science has clearly proven that you and all people who believe in a higher force and call that force "God" are cruel, ignorant, hillbillies who hate faggots and shun all scientific knowledge. You were/still kinda are everything that is wrong with the world. It's gonna be real hard for you to live with yourself and all the evil you created in the world once you convert to the light side of atheism...may the lifeless void have mercy on your non-existent soul. Perhaps Gipper can help put things in perspective and get get you to stop hanging out with your infidel Christian family and convert to evangelical atheism.
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^^^In case anyone missed it I believe that was Internet sarcasm.
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^^^In case anyone missed it I believe that was Internet sarcasm.
this made me burst out laughing in the office, Thanks SodaJerk haha
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The thread title is pretty much a yes or no question. How has it deteriorated into all this ranting I just skimmed through??? And Gip and Leet you 2 guys especially really need to get laid. For the love of.....doh! sorry, for the love of Pete! Church is a great place to pick up pussy I mean seriously Gip, how many times have you been jerking off to porn and fingering your own butt and heard the chick on the screen yelling, "oh Buddah! oh Buddah!
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Religion (all faiths) is man kinds first dabbles in brand identity and the appropriating of imagery and symbolism for profit. They're one and the same. Not opposites! Religion and art are often referred to as the "hallmarks of modern society". They're also two major things you don't need in life in order to survive and live happily. Its all man made retail nonsense for sale. Don't buy it!
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The thread title is pretty much a yes or no question. How has it deteriorated into all this ranting I just skimmed through??? And Gip and Leet you 2 guys especially really need to get laid. For the love of.....doh! sorry, for the love of Pete! Church is a great place to pick up pussy I mean seriously Gip, how many times have you been jerking off to porn and fingering your own butt and heard the chick on the screen yelling, "oh Buddah! oh Buddah!
I find it funny when pornstars have cross tattoos, and I see it pretty frequently. Maybe I'm jerking it too much...
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Prod, Jamie Thomas, Christian Hosoi, Sierra Fellers, Brian Sumner, Lennie Kirk
I don't care if anyone is religious, but it bothers me when they bring it into skateboarding.
Kids are super impressionable. To me its the same as ARMY ads in skate mags, it doesn't belong.
And the Prod "THANK YOU GOD" when he wins contests, Bill said it best - "what your really saying is 'THANK YOU GOD... FOR MAKING MEEEEE!''
The religious go to church every Sunday, lead bible study, sing songs that worhship your god like Sumner? Yes.
The pray into my hat, saying thanks god after a trick like P-Rod? Nah.
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Nearly need a where are they now?... but are they still Christian now? That Sierra Fellers video was pretty whack.. fucking brainwashing a kid at 7. Religion is a waste of time and has created a halt to humanity. Look at the middle east.. the Crusades.. Violent stupid people. Don't even get me started on Priests..
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once in the tender days of my youth i was at a religious skate camp/cult and the pastor saw that i had glasses on and he asked everyone to put their hands on me and started praying and yelling for god to heal my eyesight and then after a real sweaty uncomfortable 5 minutes he told me to open up and sure enough... he tried to finger me.
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I dunno, I always thought Guru Khalsa was pretty sick.
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Weed is pretty much a religion for skaters, and is just as annoying when they talk about it.
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repent and be saved
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Yes.
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Weed is pretty much a religion for skaters, and is just as annoying when they talk about it.
THERE IS ONLY ONE TRUE STRAIN, DESCENDED FROM ON OF HIGH.
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Are religious pros lame?
Is resurrecting dead threads lame?
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Are religious pros lame?
Is resurrecting dead threads lame?
“UsE tHe SeArCh FuNcTiOn”
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the obnoxious 'satan/666' attention seeking dudes are just as awful as the religious dudes.
Or just the overtly sacrilegious clowns that claim their so accepting but blatantly despise or can’t accept someone’s choices.
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the obnoxious 'satan/666' attention seeking dudes are just as awful as the religious dudes.
I feel attacked rn
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the obnoxious 'satan/666' attention seeking dudes are just as awful as the religious dudes.
I feel attacked rn
and you need to stop touching yourself too
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No, but some definitely are. If some people are so fucked up that they need religion to keep them on the straight and narrow, and not smoking meth, then I guess that works. Now, people who actively try to convert other people drive me insane. I don't care if someone is religious, just don't impose those beliefs on me or try to implement them in law (see Abortion, gay marriage, etc). Or people who use god to justify ridiculous actions like Lennie Kirk, although he may be schitzophrenic.
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the obnoxious 'satan/666' attention seeking dudes are just as awful as the religious dudes.
I feel attacked rn
and you need to stop touching yourself too
Hey man what i do on public transportation is my own business
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Weed is pretty much a religion for skaters, and is just as annoying when they talk about it.
Uhh religion isn't annoying, it's deadly.. Millions of people have been killed because of religion.
Hell more people have been killed because of religions stance on weed use alone then people that have actually died from weed.
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Weed is pretty much a religion for skaters, and is just as annoying when they talk about it.
Uhh religion isn't annoying, it's deadly.. Millions of people have been killed because of religion.
Hell more people have been killed because of religions stance on weed use alone then people that have actually died from weed.
OK, if I knew someone was going to get ultra-serious and take an obviously joking metaphor to its conclusion, I probably should have said ‘drugs are religion for skaters’.
But as it stands, not all religions are equally bad.
Weed, something fairly benign, could be compared to Jehovah’s witnesses, whereas something like coke which uses child slave labor and people are killed in turf wars would be something akin to the Roman Catholicism.
So in conclusion, you aren’t being ‘woke’ by trying to start arguments over jokes, you are being a bit of a dick.
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Weed is pretty much a religion for skaters, and is just as annoying when they talk about it.
Uhh religion isn't annoying, it's deadly.. Millions of people have been killed because of religion.
Hell more people have been killed because of religions stance on weed use alone then people that have actually died from weed.
you almost got me w/ this one
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Yeah but what’s the plan just like go show them all they’re wrong that’s just being argumentative
Some people are religious and some aren’t and that’s fine
Both sides look wack when they preach their shit,
it should just be some personal business sort of thing
I would ride a Jesus style pro board before a Braille but not before a normal one or even some ultra trendy shit with moslem style writings but that’s just cause that’s on trend
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You could say the same with weed and alocohol in skateboarding .
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Religious people are lame when they pratices proselytism or uses other peoples faith to making money.
Prod only uses it for himself, its an individual thing and behavior. I CANT say nothing about him, he dont knock my door in the morning to tell "Jesus will save you".
Dudes here love to say: "I dont care bout others people thinks or do". But cares about other people individual pray that has nothing about you.
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Jesus was a hunk. Nobody likes a zealot.
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Weed is pretty much a religion for skaters, and is just as annoying when they talk about it.
Uhh religion isn't annoying, it's deadly.. Millions of people have been killed because of religion.
Hell more people have been killed because of religions stance on weed use alone then people that have actually died from weed.
OK, if I knew someone was going to get ultra-serious and take an obviously joking metaphor to its conclusion, I probably should have said ‘drugs are religion for skaters’.
But as it stands, not all religions are equally bad.
Weed, something fairly benign, could be compared to Jehovah’s witnesses, whereas something like coke which uses child slave labor and people are killed in turf wars would be something akin to the Roman Catholicism.
So in conclusion, you aren’t being ‘woke’ by trying to start arguments over jokes, you are being a bit of a dick.
sorry to nitpick but I gotta assume you dont have any family members who are jehovah’s witnesses or have been to a Kingdom Hall if you think it’s comparable to weed lol more like meth.
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Weed is pretty much a religion for skaters, and is just as annoying when they talk about it.
Uhh religion isn't annoying, it's deadly.. Millions of people have been killed because of religion.
Hell more people have been killed because of religions stance on weed use alone then people that have actually died from weed.
OK, if I knew someone was going to get ultra-serious and take an obviously joking metaphor to its conclusion, I probably should have said ‘drugs are religion for skaters’.
But as it stands, not all religions are equally bad.
Weed, something fairly benign, could be compared to Jehovah’s witnesses, whereas something like coke which uses child slave labor and people are killed in turf wars would be something akin to the Roman Catholicism.
So in conclusion, you aren’t being ‘woke’ by trying to start arguments over jokes, you are being a bit of a dick.
For real, i was about to say, JWs are way fucked. Kids dying because they won't allow them to get life saving surgery, pedophiles being able to move from congregation to congregation and never face consequences because they're "neutral" and don't report anything to the government, the fact that they excommunicate you on the hard core manner where your parents are forbidden to contact you if you leave the church.
Also of all the goofy American Christianity remixes, JWs high key the fucking dumbest. A dude predicted the apocalypse wrong like three times and said only 144,000 people are going to heaven and yet people still keep joining despite that max number being reached 200 years ago.
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Weed is pretty much a religion for skaters, and is just as annoying when they talk about it.
Uhh religion isn't annoying, it's deadly.. Millions of people have been killed because of religion.
Hell more people have been killed because of religions stance on weed use alone then people that have actually died from weed.
OK, if I knew someone was going to get ultra-serious and take an obviously joking metaphor to its conclusion, I probably should have said ‘drugs are religion for skaters’.
But as it stands, not all religions are equally bad.
Weed, something fairly benign, could be compared to Jehovah’s witnesses, whereas something like coke which uses child slave labor and people are killed in turf wars would be something akin to the Roman Catholicism.
So in conclusion, you aren’t being ‘woke’ by trying to start arguments over jokes, you are being a bit of a dick.
For real, i was about to say, JWs are way fucked. Kids dying because they won't allow them to get life saving surgery, pedophiles being able to move from congregation to congregation and never face consequences because they're "neutral" and don't report anything to the government, the fact that they excommunicate you on the hard core manner where your parents are forbidden to contact you if you leave the church.
Also of all the goofy American Christianity remixes, JWs high key the fucking dumbest. A dude predicted the apocalypse wrong like three times and said only 144,000 people are going to heaven and yet people still keep joining despite that max number being reached 200 years ago.
This is all true. As someone raised as a JW with family still in it, it’s tough to hear people justify a smaller orgs social consequences because something larger like the Catholic Church just so happens to exist. In the end, they all end up doing bad shit and then they do worse shit when attempting to repair their reputation. I’ve wondered what a church that doesn’t claim to be infallible or directly connected to the “divine” would look like, but I guess that wouldn’t be a church at all.
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preachy skateboarders are 1000% covering for something
no one thinks lance mountain or ray barbee is lame
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A few years back morizen foche got into a conversation with Brian sumner on Facebook about “religion”.
It was very interesting because mofo grew up in a Catholic Church and went to a school for ordained ministers. I believe mofo is a homosexual and atheist now.
Brian had a western king james judo-cheistian interpretation of reality
I screen shotted it and saved it somewhere I think they deleted it on fb.
Mofo made some interesting points about the kings James Bible being translated shortly after Shakespeare and something like 30% of the words come straight from Shakespeare plays which makes sense cuz a lot of English peasants couldn’t read or write so they really knew English from seeing plays and church
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Weed is pretty much a religion for skaters, and is just as annoying when they talk about it.
Uhh religion isn't annoying, it's deadly.. Millions of people have been killed because of religion.
Hell more people have been killed because of religions stance on weed use alone then people that have actually died from weed.
OK, if I knew someone was going to get ultra-serious and take an obviously joking metaphor to its conclusion, I probably should have said ‘drugs are religion for skaters’.
But as it stands, not all religions are equally bad.
Weed, something fairly benign, could be compared to Jehovah’s witnesses, whereas something like coke which uses child slave labor and people are killed in turf wars would be something akin to the Roman Catholicism.
So in conclusion, you aren’t being ‘woke’ by trying to start arguments over jokes, you are being a bit of a dick.
For real, i was about to say, JWs are way fucked. Kids dying because they won't allow them to get life saving surgery, pedophiles being able to move from congregation to congregation and never face consequences because they're "neutral" and don't report anything to the government, the fact that they excommunicate you on the hard core manner where your parents are forbidden to contact you if you leave the church.
Also of all the goofy American Christianity remixes, JWs high key the fucking dumbest. A dude predicted the apocalypse wrong like three times and said only 144,000 people are going to heaven and yet people still keep joining despite that max number being reached 200 years ago.
This is all true. As someone raised as a JW with family still in it, it’s tough to hear people justify a smaller orgs social consequences because something larger like the Catholic Church just so happens to exist. In the end, they all end up doing bad shit and then they do worse shit when attempting to repair their reputation. I’ve wondered what a church that doesn’t claim to be infallible or directly connected to the “divine” would look like, but I guess that wouldn’t be a church at all.
My bad. I only knew them as annoying door-to-door proselytizers. I agree, not a good comparison.
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Doesn't really bother me, but not going to lie, my opinion of anyone dips if I find out they are religious.
100%
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ill take a religious positive pro whos actually nice to the kids over a smug hellride drug and alchohol glamorizing nihilist anyday
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The time a skateboarder really put religion first he became legendary. Quit sinnin, escape hell.
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there used to be this free indoor at some small gym in an oldass church. for the winter. they would always stop the sesh halfway and ask everyone adults and groms to sit in a circle to talk about their dogma. shit was super cringe and the fake positivity cucks were always just clammy and awkward. anyway this place definitely had asbestos so i stopped going. no pros in this here ol story my bad
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Jesus pushed mongo.
it was like 2000 years ago. if we can give pros who push switch mongo in the 90's a pass, we can give Jesus the OK to be pushing mongo on those rough stone roman roads. IMHO
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When I first became an atheist pros who were religious and brought it in to skateboarding bothered me a lot.
As I've gotten older, it doesn't really bother me as long as they aren't pushing it on anyone. That's where it really starts to get dangerous.
The ones that are truly awful are the ones who are super quiet about their religion, but are trying hard to get people into their religion. That's why people like Kyro bug me way more than Hosoi or Thomas.
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When I first became an atheist pros who were religious and brought it in to skateboarding bothered me a lot.
As I've gotten older, it doesn't really bother me as long as they aren't pushing it on anyone. That's where it really starts to get dangerous.
The ones that are truly awful are the ones who are super quiet about their religion, but are trying hard to get people into their religion. That's why people like Kyro bug me way more than Hosoi or Thomas.
The thing that bothers me is when people use skateboarding as a vehicle to further their evangelicism. It's just as cynical and crass as when some big company or fashion house slaps someone doing an ollie in a bowl in an anti depressant ad or covers some blank Chinese complete with a bunch of Louis Vuitton logos, except it tends to come with a side of puritanical beliefs about morality, sexuality and supremacy over non believers
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there used to be this free indoor at some small gym in an oldass church. for the winter. they would always stop the sesh halfway and ask everyone adults and groms to sit in a circle to talk about their dogma. shit was super cringe and the fake positivity cucks were always just clammy and awkward. anyway this place definitely had asbestos so i stopped going. no pros in this here ol story my bad
This wouldn’t happen to of been in Louisiana, would it?
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Doesn't really bother me, but not going to lie, my opinion of anyone dips if I find out they are religious.
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That's pretty shallow.
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I'm not even sure DB is a religious kook...Just a kook that goes around doing all sorts of "good" under the false pretence that he is a big time pro skater.
Imagine being a 12 year old with leukemia and Doug Brown shows up. Sorry Jimmy, Tony Hawk was busy.
I think this is his third book about his life behind the board as a "pro skater"...Astonishingly sad in all honesty.
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Used to skate God Park in Perth in the late 90s. So named because it was this indoor skate park because it was attached to a big church and the dude that used to run it (Daniel I think) was a reformed stoner who had found God etc.
Was pretty chill to skate at and was closed while church was on.
Really, any pro pushing any ideology is lame.
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I'm not even sure DB is a religious kook...Just a kook that goes around doing all sorts of "good" under the false pretence that he is a big time pro skater.
Imagine being a 12 year old with leukemia and Doug Brown shows up. Sorry Jimmy, Tony Hawk was busy.
I think this is his third book about his life behind the board as a "pro skater"...Astonishingly sad in all honesty.
Nah, Doug is a bad boy. He just puts on the act, so he can tour the country, or ya know, mostly just Ohio, giving speeches to motivate the kids, but his real motivation and laying pipe to a lonely teacher, or librarian at every new middle school he stops at.
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When I first became an atheist pros who were religious and brought it in to skateboarding bothered me a lot.
As I've gotten older, it doesn't really bother me as long as they aren't pushing it on anyone. That's where it really starts to get dangerous.
The ones that are truly awful are the ones who are super quiet about their religion, but are trying hard to get people into their religion. That's why people like Kyro bug me way more than Hosoi or Thomas.
I’m not a Kyro fan, but in the interest of fairness, has he ever talked about Scientology in his skateboard stuff?
While Jamie definitely has had heavy religious graphics on his boards, angg do I think one of his video parts ends with a cross on the screen.
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The time a skateboarder really put religion first he became legendary. Quit sinnin, escape hell.
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When I first became an atheist pros who were religious and brought it in to skateboarding bothered me a lot.
As I've gotten older, it doesn't really bother me as long as they aren't pushing it on anyone. That's where it really starts to get dangerous.
The ones that are truly awful are the ones who are super quiet about their religion, but are trying hard to get people into their religion. That's why people like Kyro bug me way more than Hosoi or Thomas.
I’m not a Kyro fan, but in the interest of fairness, has he ever talked about Scientology in his skateboard stuff?
While Jamie definitely has had heavy religious graphics on his boards, angg do I think one of his video parts ends with a cross on the screen.
That's the problem he's not open about it. If you look at what position he holds in the church, he's the PES (Public Executive Secretary) of San Francisco. That position is involved in getting new people into Scientology. There's no way he holds that position and doesn't have procuring new people for Scientology as an ulterior motive. He may not be going after the public at large, but that would make sense since the public at large has rejected Scientology. My guess is that he's going after the young impressionable skaters on his channel and skaters that he directly interacts with at parks.
A lot of the Braille brand has Scientologists involved, and it really seems like a marketing tool for Scientology.
The thing that bothers me is when people use skateboarding as a vehicle to further their evangelicism. It's just as cynical and crass as when some big company or fashion house slaps someone doing an ollie in a bowl in an anti depressant ad or covers some blank Chinese complete with a bunch of Louis Vuitton logos, except it tends to come with a side of puritanical beliefs about morality, sexuality and supremacy over non believers
That's basically how I look at it. As long as they aren't being evangelical about their religion and it's only influencing their graphics and such, I really don't care if they incorporate their religion into their skateboarding stuff. I haven't seen that too much from the guys who do it, but maybe it's because I don't pay much attention.
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The time a skateboarder really put religion first he became legendary. Quit sinnin, escape hell.
Lennie Kirk, Timecode
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Idk Matt fields is kool
is matt a rastafarian?
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Q: Are religious pros lame?
A: Yes. 100%. No exceptions.
Religion is cancer. Every last one of 'em. Any good credited to a religion or it's followers was built on the suffering of others.
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Anytime I hear anyone talking about their religion I am instantly uninterested, if they start preaching I really don't want to hear it. Same goes for pro skaters. I'll happily watch them skate and that should be what they are about in the public eye but if they start going on about their religion, I'm out. I've seen a few videos like that from a few pro skaters and they may be well intentioned but they certainly err on the side of preaching and that's not cool at all. If they start preaching to kids through skateboarding I certainly start to lose some respect for them.
Honestly I had forgotten Jamie Thomas was religious at all because it never comes up, it's a personal thing and he keeps it that way and thats good.
For me I abhor any organized religious sects, if whatever faith brings you solace and peace whatever cool that’s cool and on you.
I believe it was during mid to late 90’s there was a huge influx of Christian themed events and various pro/ams came to Chattanooga and we’d be there to meet them. It was alright just I can’t get behind it personally.
I wonder if the incentive for some of these people who got a park at their hometown was a ruse, believe in the Jesus juice and you promote us via sanctuary skate parks and you’ll have a shitty prefab park?
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This thread is pure bigotry. Could you imagine a thread criticizing Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist or Sikh skateboarders? It’s abhorrent, no different than racist, misogynist, homophobic and transphobic garbage that is rightfully condemned all over this forum. I’m not sure how so few people here can see the blatant contradiction and hypocrisy.
Not surprising though, it’s exactly what I said in the Daan thread.
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Are you calling Lance Mountain lame?
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This thread is pure bigotry. Could you imagine a thread criticizing Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist or Sikh skateboarders? It’s abhorrent, no different than racist, misogynist, homophobic and transphobic garbage that is rightfully condemned all over this forum. I’m not sure how so few people here can see the blatant contradiction and hypocrisy.
Not surprising though, it’s exactly what I said in the Daan thread.
It’s simply not though. Religion is a choice.
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This thread is pure bigotry. Could you imagine a thread criticizing Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist or Sikh skateboarders? It’s abhorrent, no different than racist, misogynist, homophobic and transphobic garbage that is rightfully condemned all over this forum. I’m not sure how so few people here can see the blatant contradiction and hypocrisy.
Not surprising though, it’s exactly what I said in the Daan thread.
I don't hate religion contrary to popular opinion, i am just highly critical of evangelical Christianity and i have every right to be because i was raised in it. I spent 70% of my life in a church from birth to about 21 from going to both religious school as well as church at one place. I'm totally happy for people who feel at home and welcome and a sense of community in the church, but i will not sit and let their social and sexual prescriptions dictate the way the rest of us live our lives. The moment people start to use the Bible as a cudgel to beat other people into submission with, then I'll be there fighting and opposing them
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This thread is pure bigotry. Could you imagine a thread criticizing Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist or Sikh skateboarders? It’s abhorrent, no different than racist, misogynist, homophobic and transphobic garbage that is rightfully condemned all over this forum. I’m not sure how so few people here can see the blatant contradiction and hypocrisy.
Not surprising though, it’s exactly what I said in the Daan thread.
Oooh, the poor, persecuted Christians! If only one day, they could rise up from their minority, oppressed status and maybe even, through the grace of god, be able to hold office and political power in this great land.
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to answer the op, no, religious pros are not lame, every religious person is lame, hth
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to answer the op, no, religious pros are not lame, every religious person is lame, hth
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Is "lame" an ableist slur?
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Is "lame" an ableist slur?
Hadn't really thought about it, but yeah.
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Religion is pretty much what you make of it. Of course there are the people on the street screaming at you about if you don't believe in their diety you're going straight to hell or the TV shows/movies about murderers who went to jail and found god and are saved. But there are others. My wife is mildly religious, grew up Catholic. We have a really nice Catholoic church walking distance from our house she goes to with our daughter once every two weeks or so. I go every so often. They have a playground and a childern's library.
She also has a good friend who is full on Mormon. Went to BYU, did the mission, wears the weird under ware, has like nine brothers and sisters, but is married to a non-Mormon guy and never preaches about it if she knows you're not into it.
Basically it can help some people manage their life, but just keep it under control.
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Not surprising though, it’s exactly what I said in the Daan thread.
Oooh, the poor, persecuted Christians! If only one day, they could rise up from their minority, oppressed status and maybe even, through the grace of god, be able to hold office and political power in this great land.
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Is "lame" an ableist slur?
Pretty much every classic insult is. Dumb, lame, stupid, etc
Kind of hard to insult someone without it being some throwback to hate
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Religion is the bane of the modern world. The sooner it's gone the better off the species and planet will be.
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At this point, political and cultural ideologies have become religion for those who don’t believe in deity.
Even atheism is practiced with religious fervor.
I also wouldn’t say that Ray Barbee, Nassim Lachlan, or PJ Ladd are “lame”.
This whole thread is just an amalgamation of individual personal opinions that fall short of creating settled fact.
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Religion is the bane of the modern world. The sooner it's gone the better off the species and planet will be.
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At this point, political and cultural ideologies have become religion for those who don’t believe in deity.
Even atheism is practiced with religious fervor.
I also wouldn’t say that Ray Barbee, Nassim Lachlan, or PJ Ladd are “lame”.
This whole thread is just an amalgamation of individual personal opinions that fall short of creating settled fact.
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This thread is pure bigotry. Could you imagine a thread criticizing Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist or Sikh skateboarders? It’s abhorrent, no different than racist, misogynist, homophobic and transphobic garbage that is rightfully condemned all over this forum. I’m not sure how so few people here can see the blatant contradiction and hypocrisy.
Not surprising though, it’s exactly what I said in the Daan thread.
Leviticus 25:44-46 It’s ok to own slaves
Exodus 21:7-10 How to sell your daughter
Exodus 22:16-17 How to buy a virgin
Exodus 20:17 Women as property
Leviticus 19:20-22 it’s ok to rape a slave
If you actually read the Christian bible and you are like “Yes, I will base my life around these teachings “ you are a fucking sociopath.
All religions are silly superstitions that we as monkeys can’t seem to shake.
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Why would it be lame? It's just their beliefs, as long as they aren't hurting anyone with it why should anyone care?
Are non religious pros lame?
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Even atheism is practiced with religious fervor.
Not quite the same. Western religion (and to a large extent new-age spirituality) tends to promote magical, uncritical thinking. This belief in magical things accepted without proof (in fact accepting without proof-faith-is viewed as somehow morally desirable) is to me the same foundation for uncritical other dangerous unfounded beliefs, like flat earth, Qanon, and that Capitalism is a good thing.
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Religion is the bane of the modern world. The sooner it's gone the better off the species and planet will be.
I thought Bane was the religion of Ra's Al Ghul?
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Q: Are religious pros lame?
A: Yes. 100%. No exceptions.
Religion is cancer. Every last one of 'em. Any good credited to a religion or it's followers was built on the suffering of others.
Including Boognish? Jedi / Sith? Church of Skatan?
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This thread is pure bigotry. Could you imagine a thread criticizing Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist or Sikh skateboarders? It’s abhorrent, no different than racist, misogynist, homophobic and transphobic garbage that is rightfully condemned all over this forum. I’m not sure how so few people here can see the blatant contradiction and hypocrisy.
Not surprising though, it’s exactly what I said in the Daan thread.
Leviticus 25:44-46 It’s ok to own slaves
Exodus 21:7-10 How to sell your daughter
Exodus 22:16-17 How to buy a virgin
Exodus 20:17 Women as property
Leviticus 19:20-22 it’s ok to rape a slave
If you actually read the Christian bible and you are like “Yes, I will base my life around these teachings “ you are a fucking sociopath.
All religions are silly superstitions that we as monkeys can’t seem to shake.
This thread is getting fun for the none!
I'm no expert, just sincerely curious, aren't those Jewish bible books? Trying to follow your logistics in that quote. (not accusing / excusing you of anti-semitism. One love)
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This thread is pure bigotry. Could you imagine a thread criticizing Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist or Sikh skateboarders? It’s abhorrent, no different than racist, misogynist, homophobic and transphobic garbage that is rightfully condemned all over this forum. I’m not sure how so few people here can see the blatant contradiction and hypocrisy.
Not surprising though, it’s exactly what I said in the Daan thread.
Leviticus 25:44-46 It’s ok to own slaves
Exodus 21:7-10 How to sell your daughter
Exodus 22:16-17 How to buy a virgin
Exodus 20:17 Women as property
Leviticus 19:20-22 it’s ok to rape a slave
If you actually read the Christian bible and you are like “Yes, I will base my life around these teachings “ you are a fucking sociopath.
All religions are silly superstitions that we as monkeys can’t seem to shake.
This thread is getting fun for the none!
I'm no expert, just sincerely curious, aren't those Jewish bible books? Trying to follow your logistics in that quote. (not accusing / excusing you of anti-semitism. One love)
Yes that's all the talmud/old testament. I have to say i do think it's very funny that Christians just took Judaism and said "hey why don't we slap this granny flat called the new testament on to your easement"
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This thread is pure bigotry. Could you imagine a thread criticizing Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist or Sikh skateboarders? It’s abhorrent, no different than racist, misogynist, homophobic and transphobic garbage that is rightfully condemned all over this forum. I’m not sure how so few people here can see the blatant contradiction and hypocrisy.
Not surprising though, it’s exactly what I said in the Daan thread.
Leviticus 25:44-46 It’s ok to own slaves
Exodus 21:7-10 How to sell your daughter
Exodus 22:16-17 How to buy a virgin
Exodus 20:17 Women as property
Leviticus 19:20-22 it’s ok to rape a slave
If you actually read the Christian bible and you are like “Yes, I will base my life around these teachings “ you are a fucking sociopath.
All religions are silly superstitions that we as monkeys can’t seem to shake.
This thread is getting fun for the none!
I'm no expert, just sincerely curious, aren't those Jewish bible books? Trying to follow your logistics in that quote. (not accusing / excusing you of anti-semitism. One love)
Yes that's all the talmud/old testament. I have to say i do think it's very funny that Christians just took Judaism and said "hey why don't we slap this granny flat called the new testament on to your easement"
I thought so.
And weren't the first Christians all Jews, even the founder? So Jews taking Judaism and adding the granny is what you're saying happened?
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This thread is pure bigotry. Could you imagine a thread criticizing Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist or Sikh skateboarders? It’s abhorrent, no different than racist, misogynist, homophobic and transphobic garbage that is rightfully condemned all over this forum. I’m not sure how so few people here can see the blatant contradiction and hypocrisy.
Not surprising though, it’s exactly what I said in the Daan thread.
Leviticus 25:44-46 It’s ok to own slaves
Exodus 21:7-10 How to sell your daughter
Exodus 22:16-17 How to buy a virgin
Exodus 20:17 Women as property
Leviticus 19:20-22 it’s ok to rape a slave
If you actually read the Christian bible and you are like “Yes, I will base my life around these teachings “ you are a fucking sociopath.
All religions are silly superstitions that we as monkeys can’t seem to shake.
This thread is getting fun for the none!
I'm no expert, just sincerely curious, aren't those Jewish bible books? Trying to follow your logistics in that quote. (not accusing / excusing you of anti-semitism. One love)
Yes that's all the talmud/old testament. I have to say i do think it's very funny that Christians just took Judaism and said "hey why don't we slap this granny flat called the new testament on to your easement"
I thought so.
And weren't the first Christians all Jews, even the founder? So Jews taking Judaism and adding the granny is what you're saying happened?
Yes according to the lore, all the original apostles were Jews, but post resurrection and later Ascension into heaven, the apostles (as well as Paul whose story is covered immediately after the gospels of Matthew, mark, Luke and John) were given the great commission to go out and spread the word to gentiles as well as jews
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as long as they are not scientologists or have backwards intolerant views I could care less
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I ve never met a religious person that is not lame. The problem is that religion tends to numb your brain because everything is god's will or god has his ways, so you dont have to think. I really hate it when I think that this kind of thinking in a large scale affects me through politics, many politicians get a free pass just because they preach god's will and all these sentimental bullshit and religious people accept it. Most poor conservatives are religious.
Christianism when first appeared wasnt like that, actually it was revolutionary and forward thinking. Actually what we have today is the christianism that was integrated into the system and became part of it centuries ago.
Agreed - Religion was created to cause divide in the human race but thats another topic...
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I ve never met a religious person that is not lame. The problem is that religion tends to numb your brain because everything is god's will or god has his ways, so you dont have to think. I really hate it when I think that this kind of thinking in a large scale affects me through politics, many politicians get a free pass just because they preach god's will and all these sentimental bullshit and religious people accept it. Most poor conservatives are religious.
Christianism when first appeared wasnt like that, actually it was revolutionary and forward thinking. Actually what we have today is the christianism that was integrated into the system and became part of it centuries ago.
Agreed - Religion was created to cause divide in the human race but thats another topic...
OK, I’ll bite.
I’m critical of religion, but you could also consider me religious.
If religion was created to divide the human race, who created it? And why did that person(s?) want to cause division?
Because religion is central to people from megachurches in Florida to Subsaharan nomads to tribes living in the Amazon.
Who managed to create all those divisions?
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it wasn't created to divide it was created to guide. the beast within us needs some sort of structure to follow. it was meant to be training wheels i think so to speak but was infiltrated by whatever evil is. just my shitty two cents
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Hosois ranting made me mute him on insta. That's about it.
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I reckon it was cunts tripping out on drugs and they didn’t know
Like that shrine of Delphi they were just living in a gas cave or some shit and Moses was on shrooms when he saw that burning bush, heaps of those religious experience things sound like they were hallucinating the Mohammed cave one, too
I reckon particular people in time had profound trips and shit just snowballed, no big conspiracy
Like, dmt and shit is in so many plants and animals around the world cunts have to have tripped out on shit by mistake
I mean they were full primitives they woulda been hungry all the time, one of those people find a bunch of wild mushrooms they would have just ate the lot
Just imagine it, a whole bunch like that on an empty stomach
It would boot your arse around the universe for a couple days for sure
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I'm pretty sure Prod isn't a Christian follower of Christ...he believes in doing the Dew
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.azquotes.com%2Fquotes%2Ftopics%2Fmountain-dew.html&psig=AOvVaw1qbihsXDM2uHBhtRSBZhvd&ust=1628945467034000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAsQjRxqFwoTCPidjPKErvICFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD
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manna in the desert was shrooms. moses was tripping balls when he saw the swaying bush
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Not surprising though, it’s exactly what I said in the Daan thread.
Leviticus 25:44-46 It’s ok to own slaves
Exodus 21:7-10 How to sell your daughter
Exodus 22:16-17 How to buy a virgin
Exodus 20:17 Women as property
Leviticus 19:20-22 it’s ok to rape a slave
If you actually read the Christian bible and you are like “Yes, I will base my life around these teachings “ you are a fucking sociopath.
All religions are silly superstitions that we as monkeys can’t seem to shake.
This thread is getting fun for the none!
I'm no expert, just sincerely curious, aren't those Jewish bible books? Trying to follow your logistics in that quote. (not accusing / excusing you of anti-semitism. One love)
Yes that's all the talmud/old testament. I have to say i do think it's very funny that Christians just took Judaism and said "hey why don't we slap this granny flat called the new testament on to your easement"
I thought so.
And weren't the first Christians all Jews, even the founder? So Jews taking Judaism and adding the granny is what you're saying happened?
Yes according to the lore, all the original apostles were Jews, but post resurrection and later Ascension into heaven, the apostles (as well as Paul whose story is covered immediately after the gospels of Matthew, mark, Luke and John) were given the great commission to go out and spread the word to gentiles as well as jews
I just looked it up and you're right. It's whitewashing of sorts to say the christians wrote the new testament. Actually it was jews who were into jesus.
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This thread is pure bigotry. Could you imagine a thread criticizing Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist or Sikh skateboarders? It’s abhorrent, no different than racist, misogynist, homophobic and transphobic garbage that is rightfully condemned all over this forum. I’m not sure how so few people here can see the blatant contradiction and hypocrisy.
Not surprising though, it’s exactly what I said in the Daan thread.
Leviticus 25:44-46 It’s ok to own slaves
Exodus 21:7-10 How to sell your daughter
Exodus 22:16-17 How to buy a virgin
Exodus 20:17 Women as property
Leviticus 19:20-22 it’s ok to rape a slave
If you actually read the Christian bible and you are like “Yes, I will base my life around these teachings “ you are a fucking sociopath.
All religions are silly superstitions that we as monkeys can’t seem to shake.
This thread is getting fun for the none!
I'm no expert, just sincerely curious, aren't those Jewish bible books? Trying to follow your logistics in that quote. (not accusing / excusing you of anti-semitism. One love)
Yes that's all the talmud/old testament. I have to say i do think it's very funny that Christians just took Judaism and said "hey why don't we slap this granny flat called the new testament on to your easement"
I thought so.
And weren't the first Christians all Jews, even the founder? So Jews taking Judaism and adding the granny is what you're saying happened?
Yes according to the lore, all the original apostles were Jews, but post resurrection and later Ascension into heaven, the apostles (as well as Paul whose story is covered immediately after the gospels of Matthew, mark, Luke and John) were given the great commission to go out and spread the word to gentiles as well as jews
I just looked it up and you're right. It's whitewashing of sorts to say the christians wrote the new testament. Actually it was jews who were into jesus.
I mean technically they were the first Christians but yes they were all Jewish in Jesus' inner circle but throughout the gospel there are plenty of gentiles who are converted after encounters with Jesus. Things really took off in the epistles where Paul is writing letters to different churches that he helped start throughput the Roman empire at the time.
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Not surprising though, it’s exactly what I said in the Daan thread.
Leviticus 25:44-46 It’s ok to own slaves
Exodus 21:7-10 How to sell your daughter
Exodus 22:16-17 How to buy a virgin
Exodus 20:17 Women as property
Leviticus 19:20-22 it’s ok to rape a slave
If you actually read the Christian bible and you are like “Yes, I will base my life around these teachings “ you are a fucking sociopath.
All religions are silly superstitions that we as monkeys can’t seem to shake.
This thread is getting fun for the none!
I'm no expert, just sincerely curious, aren't those Jewish bible books? Trying to follow your logistics in that quote. (not accusing / excusing you of anti-semitism. One love)
Yes that's all the talmud/old testament. I have to say i do think it's very funny that Christians just took Judaism and said "hey why don't we slap this granny flat called the new testament on to your easement"
I thought so.
And weren't the first Christians all Jews, even the founder? So Jews taking Judaism and adding the granny is what you're saying happened?
Yes according to the lore, all the original apostles were Jews, but post resurrection and later Ascension into heaven, the apostles (as well as Paul whose story is covered immediately after the gospels of Matthew, mark, Luke and John) were given the great commission to go out and spread the word to gentiles as well as jews
I just looked it up and you're right. It's whitewashing of sorts to say the christians wrote the new testament. Actually it was jews who were into jesus.
I mean technically they were the first Christians but yes they were all Jewish in Jesus' inner circle but throughout the gospel there are plenty of gentiles who are converted after encounters with Jesus. Things really took off in the epistles where Paul is writing letters to different churches that he helped start throughput the Roman empire at the time.
To be a Christian you have to believe that Jesus is God. In Judaism there is only God. If you are worshiping Jesus, to Jews you are worshiping a false prophet.
Take a minute and think about that.
The chosen people of the Christian bible are convinced if you worship Jesus you are going to hell.
Superstitions are very powerful if stupid people are in control.
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This thread is pure bigotry. Could you imagine a thread criticizing Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist or Sikh skateboarders? It’s abhorrent, no different than racist, misogynist, homophobic and transphobic garbage that is rightfully condemned all over this forum. I’m not sure how so few people here can see the blatant contradiction and hypocrisy.
Not surprising though, it’s exactly what I said in the Daan thread.
Leviticus 25:44-46 It’s ok to own slaves
Exodus 21:7-10 How to sell your daughter
Exodus 22:16-17 How to buy a virgin
Exodus 20:17 Women as property
Leviticus 19:20-22 it’s ok to rape a slave
If you actually read the Christian bible and you are like “Yes, I will base my life around these teachings “ you are a fucking sociopath.
All religions are silly superstitions that we as monkeys can’t seem to shake.
This thread is getting fun for the none!
I'm no expert, just sincerely curious, aren't those Jewish bible books? Trying to follow your logistics in that quote. (not accusing / excusing you of anti-semitism. One love)
Yes that's all the talmud/old testament. I have to say i do think it's very funny that Christians just took Judaism and said "hey why don't we slap this granny flat called the new testament on to your easement"
I thought so.
And weren't the first Christians all Jews, even the founder? So Jews taking Judaism and adding the granny is what you're saying happened?
Yes according to the lore, all the original apostles were Jews, but post resurrection and later Ascension into heaven, the apostles (as well as Paul whose story is covered immediately after the gospels of Matthew, mark, Luke and John) were given the great commission to go out and spread the word to gentiles as well as jews
I just looked it up and you're right. It's whitewashing of sorts to say the christians wrote the new testament. Actually it was jews who were into jesus.
I mean technically they were the first Christians but yes they were all Jewish in Jesus' inner circle but throughout the gospel there are plenty of gentiles who are converted after encounters with Jesus. Things really took off in the epistles where Paul is writing letters to different churches that he helped start throughput the Roman empire at the time.
Take a minute and think about that.
The chosen people of the Christian bible are convinced if you worship Jesus you are going to hell.
Superstitions are very powerful if stupid people are in control.
Are you saying that a Jewish person who believes in Jesus is not a Jewish person?
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This thread is pure bigotry. Could you imagine a thread criticizing Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist or Sikh skateboarders? It’s abhorrent, no different than racist, misogynist, homophobic and transphobic garbage that is rightfully condemned all over this forum. I’m not sure how so few people here can see the blatant contradiction and hypocrisy.
Not surprising though, it’s exactly what I said in the Daan thread.
Leviticus 25:44-46 It’s ok to own slaves
Exodus 21:7-10 How to sell your daughter
Exodus 22:16-17 How to buy a virgin
Exodus 20:17 Women as property
Leviticus 19:20-22 it’s ok to rape a slave
If you actually read the Christian bible and you are like “Yes, I will base my life around these teachings “ you are a fucking sociopath.
All religions are silly superstitions that we as monkeys can’t seem to shake.
This thread is getting fun for the none!
I'm no expert, just sincerely curious, aren't those Jewish bible books? Trying to follow your logistics in that quote. (not accusing / excusing you of anti-semitism. One love)
Yes that's all the talmud/old testament. I have to say i do think it's very funny that Christians just took Judaism and said "hey why don't we slap this granny flat called the new testament on to your easement"
I thought so.
And weren't the first Christians all Jews, even the founder? So Jews taking Judaism and adding the granny is what you're saying happened?
Yes according to the lore, all the original apostles were Jews, but post resurrection and later Ascension into heaven, the apostles (as well as Paul whose story is covered immediately after the gospels of Matthew, mark, Luke and John) were given the great commission to go out and spread the word to gentiles as well as jews
I just looked it up and you're right. It's whitewashing of sorts to say the christians wrote the new testament. Actually it was jews who were into jesus.
I mean technically they were the first Christians but yes they were all Jewish in Jesus' inner circle but throughout the gospel there are plenty of gentiles who are converted after encounters with Jesus. Things really took off in the epistles where Paul is writing letters to different churches that he helped start throughput the Roman empire at the time.
Take a minute and think about that.
The chosen people of the Christian bible are convinced if you worship Jesus you are going to hell.
Superstitions are very powerful if stupid people are in control.
Are you saying that a Jewish person who believes in Jesus is not a Jewish person?
Yeah i was just making the point that they were all ethnically Jewish in Jesus' inner circle. I'm not sure the point he's trying to make, that you can only be fully Jewish if you're ethnically and religiously Jewish which is a pretty hardline stance to take
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This thread is pure bigotry. Could you imagine a thread criticizing Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist or Sikh skateboarders? It’s abhorrent, no different than racist, misogynist, homophobic and transphobic garbage that is rightfully condemned all over this forum. I’m not sure how so few people here can see the blatant contradiction and hypocrisy.
Not surprising though, it’s exactly what I said in the Daan thread.
Leviticus 25:44-46 It’s ok to own slaves
Exodus 21:7-10 How to sell your daughter
Exodus 22:16-17 How to buy a virgin
Exodus 20:17 Women as property
Leviticus 19:20-22 it’s ok to rape a slave
If you actually read the Christian bible and you are like “Yes, I will base my life around these teachings “ you are a fucking sociopath.
All religions are silly superstitions that we as monkeys can’t seem to shake.
This thread is getting fun for the none!
I'm no expert, just sincerely curious, aren't those Jewish bible books? Trying to follow your logistics in that quote. (not accusing / excusing you of anti-semitism. One love)
Yes that's all the talmud/old testament. I have to say i do think it's very funny that Christians just took Judaism and said "hey why don't we slap this granny flat called the new testament on to your easement"
I thought so.
And weren't the first Christians all Jews, even the founder? So Jews taking Judaism and adding the granny is what you're saying happened?
Yes according to the lore, all the original apostles were Jews, but post resurrection and later Ascension into heaven, the apostles (as well as Paul whose story is covered immediately after the gospels of Matthew, mark, Luke and John) were given the great commission to go out and spread the word to gentiles as well as jews
I just looked it up and you're right. It's whitewashing of sorts to say the christians wrote the new testament. Actually it was jews who were into jesus.
I mean technically they were the first Christians but yes they were all Jewish in Jesus' inner circle but throughout the gospel there are plenty of gentiles who are converted after encounters with Jesus. Things really took off in the epistles where Paul is writing letters to different churches that he helped start throughput the Roman empire at the time.
Take a minute and think about that.
The chosen people of the Christian bible are convinced if you worship Jesus you are going to hell.
Superstitions are very powerful if stupid people are in control.
Are you saying that a Jewish person who believes in Jesus is not a Jewish person?
No, I am saying they do not follow the teachings of Judaism if they think Jesus is a God.
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yeah i can't buy the whole jesus is god thing especially when in the Quran jesus speaks as a baby while he's in his crib and states very clearly he is not god but a servant. yet another trick of the "devil" it's all names really.
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Apparently there are a ton of Jewish people who believe that believing in Jesus is the most consistently Jewish thing you can do. (found this video below). My earlier point about white washing is that saying "Christians wrote the new testament" washes out the jewishness of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynnjGKwVTjg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynnjGKwVTjg)
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Religion ist the biggest scam in human history
Edit: and yes religious people are lame in general. Same goes for religious pros.
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- This old debate seems to be about skateboarders protecting skateboarding. Like, you shouldn't have any other devotion. It makes you suspect.
- Honestly, I am more freaked out by pro skaters who play golf.
- Doug Brown isn't religious, but he writes like he is the second coming.
- Some religious pros are your favorite skaters
- Some atheist pros are your favorite skaters.
- I've met pros who are totally idolised in the 'cool' camp who are low-key religious.
- I've met pros who are bragging about Jesus and they are far from 'religious'
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- This old debate seems to be about skateboarders protecting skateboarding. Like, you shouldn't have any other devotion. It makes you suspect.
- Honestly, I am more freaked out by pro skaters who play golf.
- Doug Brown isn't religious, but he writes like he is the second coming.
- Some religious pros are your favorite skaters
- Some atheist pros are your favorite skaters.
- I've met pros who are totally idolised in the 'cool' camp who are low-key religious.
- I've met pros who are bragging about Jesus and they are far from 'religious'
This.
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Skateboarding is religions. There are many gods in skateboarding. Pray to the kickflips god and get that kickflips. Only you will make you do that kickflips you young god. Go get it.
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A buddy of mine told me this story... He was at the Vans Park watching the action and he saw Hosoi skating. Being a fan of Hosoi, he was pretty stoked. Apparently, Hosoi noticed him and walked over to him and started a conversation. I don't remember everything my buddy said about the conversation but at one point Hosoi asked him if he had "heard the good news?" At that point the whole conversation turned into a preachy sermon and my friend got so bummed. I always thought that was kinda funny.
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I mean, religion is pretty lame, or at least organized forms of it are.... Sooo....yea, I'm gonna say yea. Religious pros are lame. Final answer.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_RWDCWR3xA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_RWDCWR3xA)
I think I made a mistake to stop on Teenager of The Year.
it wasn't created to divide it was created to guide. the beast within us needs some sort of structure to follow. it was meant to be training wheels i think so to speak but was infiltrated by whatever evil is. just my shitty two cents
The whole thing about having a pope and middle age shenanigans were the biggest fuck ups in christianism.
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What about Rastafarian pros? Surely they get a pass.
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stop bumping this dog shit thread. Keep your religion away from skating, even satanism in skateboarding is cheesy
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My father in law has a set of corny Christian related dad jokes he fires off in crowded public places, his two favorite:
How did the priest make holy water? He boiled the hell out of it!
And
The Bible says the husband is supposed to make coffee for his wife. You know where it says that? In Hebrews!
Yea he doesn’t skate.
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Not sure if it makes a pro fully lame, but it increases the lameness for sure. So if a pro is already quite lame, being religious on top of it will seal the deal for me.
I don't really care for satanism in skating either. Difference is pentagrams and 666 whatever is edgy provocative semi self-aware skate-and-destroy type humor, and Reliance Skateboards are actually skating for the Jeez.
No kid wearing a pentagram thrasher shirt will come up to you and preach at the park, so satan gets a pass even though I don't go for that shit.
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What about Rastafarian pros? Surely they get a pass.
Yes but only if they rode for Ipath also each time a white person gets dreads a baby dies in Jamaica.
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What about Rastafarian pros? Surely they get a pass.
One thing we all should be able to agree on… Rasta colorways are an absolute abomination.
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Fucking gnarred, that is funny shit
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I reckon it was cunts tripping out on drugs and they didn’t know
Like that shrine of Delphi they were just living in a gas cave or some shit and Moses was on shrooms when he saw that burning bush, heaps of those religious experience things sound like they were hallucinating the Mohammed cave one, too
I reckon particular people in time had profound trips and shit just snowballed, no big conspiracy
Like, dmt and shit is in so many plants and animals around the world cunts have to have tripped out on shit by mistake
I mean they were full primitives they woulda been hungry all the time, one of those people find a bunch of wild mushrooms they would have just ate the lot
Just imagine it, a whole bunch like that on an empty stomach
It would boot your arse around the universe for a couple days for sure
I love this. Well done.
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I reckon it was cunts tripping out on drugs and they didn’t know
Like that shrine of Delphi they were just living in a gas cave or some shit and Moses was on shrooms when he saw that burning bush, heaps of those religious experience things sound like they were hallucinating the Mohammed cave one, too
I reckon particular people in time had profound trips and shit just snowballed, no big conspiracy
Like, dmt and shit is in so many plants and animals around the world cunts have to have tripped out on shit by mistake
I mean they were full primitives they woulda been hungry all the time, one of those people find a bunch of wild mushrooms they would have just ate the lot
Just imagine it, a whole bunch like that on an empty stomach
It would boot your arse around the universe for a couple days for sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxn2LlBJDl0
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No
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They are simply just like spiritual man
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everyone is kind of lame though
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Maybe not lame...but thatsnot my favorite thing to hear. If I'm talking to someone and without trying I know yer religion, that's too much. If yer about that shit, fine I guess. But keep it to yer self. Does crazy monk count? Quim?
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Are people who believe in something with no tangible evidence lame? I don't know, but if I was an adult who spoke to an imaginary friend with super powers who lives in my hat everytime before dropping in to hit a 9 stair, you'd probably be concerned about my mental health.
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Are people who believe in something with no tangible evidence lame? I don't know, but if I was an adult who spoke to an imaginary friend with super powers who lives in my hat everytime before dropping in to hit a 9 stair, you'd probably be concerned about my mental health.
There is no tangible evidence to support pineapple makes pizza better, but some people believe it does. And some people would probably be concerned about your mental health if you spoke publicly about your love for pineapple on pizza. It’s not lame to believe in anything that improves one’s quality of life, not even pineapple on pizza, but to each their own…
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People can believe whatever they want, I don’t judge on this stuff
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Religous pros are lame, because ANYONE religious is lame.
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I just stumbled across your post, and it got me thinking about religion and its origins. I totally get where you're coming from about people tripping out on drugs and having religious experiences. But for me, religion is more about finding inner peace and connecting with something greater than myself.
That being said, I totally understand why some people might think it's lame to believe in something without tangible evidence. But at the end of the day, if it brings someone joy and improves their quality of life, who am I to judge?
That sounds more like spirituality than religion. I don't think most people have a problem with spirituality.
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Plenty of non religious people just invent their own religions, as in they become dogmatic and fanatical about other things, believe things with no evidence, and have a false sense of moral high ground while committing/encouraging atrocities. This is an unfortunate aspect of human nature, but it doesn’t always apply to actual religious people, funnily enough.
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Technically speaking, religion & spirituality is an aspect of diversity & can be used as a strength for some. Often we see the extremes or encounter the extreme, so I understand the typical views on someone who is religious. Spirituality is a whole other thing & completely separate from religion. I think if it is used & assists in some level of morality, & the person may gain a sense of community from it, fine. It’s one thing if it becomes extreme & hateful, & all of those other things as that becomes a problem. I was born & raised Catholic & absolutely denounce all aspects of it; however, in getting older, I have excepted a higher power go to it when I need assistance. I do not preach on anyone, I am okay if someone thinks it’s silly, but I am not okay with being told I am foolish for doing so. It can be extremely helpful & really is just some type of meditation. So, it really depends is my point. At the end of the day, religion is man-made & can certainly be so famously said , “the opiate of the masses”. I believe that & I’ve seen it with my own eyes. But, it does not have to be that way.
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I just stumbled across your post, and it got me thinking about religion and its origins. I totally get where you're coming from about people tripping out on drugs and having religious experiences. But for me, religion is more about finding inner peace and connecting with something greater than myself.
That being said, I totally understand why some people might think it's lame to believe in something without tangible evidence. But at the end of the day, if it brings someone joy and improves their quality of life, who am I to judge?
Speaking of finding inner peace, I actually came across a website that has some great resources on the topic. It's called First Church Love, and they have some really helpful articles and tools to help you find peace within yourself. Here's the link if you're interested: https://firstchurchlove.com (https://firstchurchlove.com)
I just stumbled across YOUR post and found… a bot!
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I just stumbled across your post, and it got me thinking about religion and its origins. I totally get where you're coming from about people tripping out on drugs and having religious experiences. But for me, religion is more about finding inner peace and connecting with something greater than myself.
That being said, I totally understand why some people might think it's lame to believe in something without tangible evidence. But at the end of the day, if it brings someone joy and improves their quality of life, who am I to judge?
Speaking of finding inner peace, I actually came across a website that has some great resources on the topic. It's called First Church Love, and they have some really helpful articles and tools to help you find peace within yourself. Here's the link if you're interested: https://firstchurchlove.com (https://firstchurchlove.com)
For real. I hate to be like "MODS!" but mods, this is clearly a spamming bot account.
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I have zero issue with anyone being into religion as long as they keep that shit to themselves.
One of the nicest coworkers I've ever had was a seriously devoted Christian who didn't give two fucks that I was queer, nor was he ever angling to try to get me to "see the light". Seriously great person.
Believe what you want to believe and if I'm interested I'll ask you about it.
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the obnoxious 'satan/666' attention seeking dudes are just as awful as the religious dudes.
factual
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both 777 and 666 bois are chat. yes religious pros are lames
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I have zero issue with anyone being into religion as long as they keep that shit to themselves.
One of the nicest coworkers I've ever had was a seriously devoted Christian who didn't give two fucks that I was queer, nor was he ever angling to try to get me to "see the light". Seriously great person.
Believe what you want to believe and if I'm interested I'll ask you about it.
Preach!
seriously, I came here to post something similar.
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Believe what you want, just keep it to yourself.
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as long as it doesn't consume their whole personality and they aren't pushing it on me then im fine with it
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Religious people that are extremely zealous in any sense are kinda lame to me. Usually, their zealotry supercedes their ability to be a decent fucking human being.
Yes, if they're a super religious nut and it feels like they're pushing it on me, rather than praising a God/being alongside their personality, I'm not gonna be hyped personally.
It doesn't affect me in my day to day life usually, so it's a "to each their own" until it's invading my space, ya feel.
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Should everyone keep everything they do that other people may not agree with to themselves?
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Should everyone keep everything they do that other people may not agree with to themselves?
Yes, unless I personally agree with it
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as long as they don't believe they're the chosen ones and have the right to my skate spots, it's cool. imagine Lennie Kirk without God, he'd tear you asunder! God is the only thing making him stop at armed robbery and not graduate. to muuurder.
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I don’t care who you worship, fuck or owe money to, just keep it to yourself.
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anyone who says yes will roast in hell
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A lot of people who are very open about their religion and invite others to partake in it do so because they believe they are going to help other people. Clearly they don't often get anything out of it and if anything it alienates them from the modern world but you gotta give people the benefit of the doubt sometimes and try to believe that they're doing it as a good person.
I'm not religious btw. I'm pretty spiritual though.
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Should everyone keep everything they do that other people may not agree with to themselves?
I mean, yeah..? Don't we all agree on this?
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I have zero issue with anyone being into religion as long as they keep that shit to themselves.
One of the nicest coworkers I've ever had was a seriously devoted Christian who didn't give two fucks that I was queer, nor was he ever angling to try to get me to "see the light". Seriously great person.
Believe what you want to believe and if I'm interested I'll ask you about it.
Preach!
seriously, I came here to post something similar.
Also came to post something similar. had a super religious roommate years ago and sometimes after a few beers i'd listen to why he is and he'd listen to why i'm not. never tried to push it on me or anyone else which is how it should be.
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anyone who says yes will roast in hell
I'm so far ahead of the curve on this one bruh.
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As long as you don't try to convert me I really don't care anything
Also I wouldn't buy anything skate related mixed with religion, never had either
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I wonder if religious skaters pray stuff like, "Lord, please give me a higher ollie today," or, "Father, is there going to be any halfpipes in heaven?" or, "Heavenly father, is it wrong to do a gay twist?"
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Praise Jah
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Rodney is a christian so no.
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Yes
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Rodney is a christian so no.
He also likes to punch himself in the head when pressured, and always seems on the verge of crying in interviews as well. Shredder no doubt though haha.
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Jordan Richter is cool. still don't wanna watch his parts.
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Jordan Richter is cool. still don't wanna watch his parts.
Um… that’s gonna be a big NO from me, dawg.
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Rodney is a christian so no.
He has an overwhelming love for skateboarding and recognises that it is something special, which is nothing but commendable. Nothing but love for him considering everything he's done for us.
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I wonder if religious skaters pray stuff like, "Lord, please give me a higher ollie today," or, "Father, is there going to be any halfpipes in heaven?" or, "Heavenly father, is it wrong to do a gay twist?"
It’s not wrong to do a gay twist but sure as hell isn’t right either. If you make it in, I’d politely ask you to leave, regardless.
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You yanks take on being non religious like it’s a religion. Stop acting like psychopaths. I gotta say though legal abortions are handy so I kinda get where you’re coming from. Shame you psychos have all the nukes and guns. Can you all just chill out?
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I was curious if anyone knew if Salman is still a Christian? I watched his nine club which was one of the best ones I've seen, and he seemed to make reference to his past with skate Church camps and whatnot, but I'm wondering if today he still believes.
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Religious people don't usually understand their own shit.
"I'm going to the great class reunion in the sky. Be with lost loved ones!"
Nah fool. You getting a glorified body. Gonna sit at the feet of God like a fucking house cat for all eternity.
Read your Bible lol.
NGNM
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I was curious if anyone knew if Salman is still a Christian? I watched his nine club which was one of the best ones I've seen, and he seemed to make reference to his past with skate Church camps and whatnot, but I'm wondering if today he still believes.
He’s currently got a pro model w/ Powell, so that leads me to believe he is still a man of some sort of faith.
Whether or not he’s a “man of god” is another matter.
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You yanks take on being non religious like it’s a religion. Stop acting like psychopaths. I gotta say though legal abortions are handy so I kinda get where you’re coming from. Shame you psychos have all the nukes and guns. Can you all just chill out?
Yeah it's definitely only Americans who take issue with religious zealots and speak up about it.
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You yanks take on being non religious like it’s a religion. Stop acting like psychopaths. I gotta say though legal abortions are handy so I kinda get where you’re coming from. Shame you psychos have all the nukes and guns. Can you all just chill out?
Yeah it's definitely only Americans who take issue with religious zealots and speak up about it.
Should have spoken a little louder when roe v wade was on the table big enlightened SF guy. The difference is you’re all evangelicals, whether it be religious zealotry or politically correct zealotry or capitalist zealotry or constitutional zealotry. It would be chill but you’re the only country to have ever dropped a nuke and you have all these military bases around the world and make all the guns. So again, chill out with all your nondenominational evangelical embrace of literally any idea. It’s a puritanical mode of learning you just gotta give up. Good luck.
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are they lame? yes.
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They're lame when they bring it on the table too much, otherwise that doesn't annoy me.
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religious zealous is just as lame as overly atheist people, it’s the loud know it all and enlightened holier than than thou vibe they both give off when I feel like no one knows. People put the same blind faith in Science when hundreds of years from now if humans are still around they will say we were primitive idiots who’s calculations were mostly incorrect, you can’t prove either way. Honestly I think that carbon based life forms with our level of emotional capabilities and general intelligence existing out of a fluke is just as far fetched as what ever the fuck Mormons or other devote Christian groups believe. All we can really do is love one another and minimize the suffering of our common situation we share in the present moment.
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No as long as they’re not bugging people about their beliefs
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Anyone on earth who's religious is lame as fuck. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.
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Can we give Ray Barbee and Lance a pass?
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I wonder if religious skaters pray stuff like, "Lord, please give me a higher ollie today," or, "Father, is there going to be any halfpipes in heaven?" or, "Heavenly father, is it wrong to do a gay twist?"
🎵 "If I die before I wake, at least in heaven I can skate!!" 🎵
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You yanks take on being non religious like it’s a religion. Stop acting like psychopaths. I gotta say though legal abortions are handy so I kinda get where you’re coming from. Shame you psychos have all the nukes and guns. Can you all just chill out?
Yeah it's definitely only Americans who take issue with religious zealots and speak up about it.
Should have spoken a little louder when roe v wade was on the table big enlightened SF guy. The difference is you’re all evangelicals, whether it be religious zealotry or politically correct zealotry or capitalist zealotry or constitutional zealotry. It would be chill but you’re the only country to have ever dropped a nuke and you have all these military bases around the world and make all the guns. So again, chill out with all your nondenominational evangelical embrace of literally any idea. It’s a puritanical mode of learning you just gotta give up. Good luck.
What the fuck are you talking about you kook?
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You yanks take on being non religious like it’s a religion. Stop acting like psychopaths. I gotta say though legal abortions are handy so I kinda get where you’re coming from. Shame you psychos have all the nukes and guns. Can you all just chill out?
Yeah it's definitely only Americans who take issue with religious zealots and speak up about it.
Should have spoken a little louder when roe v wade was on the table big enlightened SF guy. The difference is you’re all evangelicals, whether it be religious zealotry or politically correct zealotry or capitalist zealotry or constitutional zealotry. It would be chill but you’re the only country to have ever dropped a nuke and you have all these military bases around the world and make all the guns. So again, chill out with all your nondenominational evangelical embrace of literally any idea. It’s a puritanical mode of learning you just gotta give up. Good luck.
What the fuck are you talking about you kook?
I think he's trying to say that Americans take things too far, which is certainly true, but "evangelical" has a meaning and it's not a synonym for "zealot", and while America has a massive population of evangelicals, it's also true that evangelicalism is basically the only growing form of Christianity worldwide. Literally I am just guessing here because those paragraphs are gibberish.
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You yanks take on being non religious like it’s a religion. Stop acting like psychopaths. I gotta say though legal abortions are handy so I kinda get where you’re coming from. Shame you psychos have all the nukes and guns. Can you all just chill out?
Yeah it's definitely only Americans who take issue with religious zealots and speak up about it.
Should have spoken a little louder when roe v wade was on the table big enlightened SF guy. The difference is you’re all evangelicals, whether it be religious zealotry or politically correct zealotry or capitalist zealotry or constitutional zealotry. It would be chill but you’re the only country to have ever dropped a nuke and you have all these military bases around the world and make all the guns. So again, chill out with all your nondenominational evangelical embrace of literally any idea. It’s a puritanical mode of learning you just gotta give up. Good luck.
What the fuck are you talking about you kook?
I think he's trying to say that Americans take things too far, which is certainly true, but "evangelical" has a meaning and it's not a synonym for "zealot", and while America has a massive population of evangelicals, it's also true that evangelicalism is basically the only growing form of Christianity worldwide. Literally I am just guessing here because those paragraphs are gibberish.
Thank you for the help.
People that paint with a brush as broad as an entire country are closed-minded assholes and can fuck right off. Not saying America is not a complete disaster, but save your xenophobic population bashing for someone who doesn't think you're insane.
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you just gotta
ah ha.
And which educational system taught you to make such ludicrous and sweeping generalizations? And how much time have you spent living in the US?
Easy to pass judgements based on politics, news and entertainment. It looks a little different and far more nuanced on the ground.
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Only if they are Muslim.
Let's unpack your bigotry a little. Name some Muslim pros and explain how lame they are. Jordan Richter is a given. So please name some more.
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You yanks take on being non religious like it’s a religion. Stop acting like psychopaths. I gotta say though legal abortions are handy so I kinda get where you’re coming from. Shame you psychos have all the nukes and guns. Can you all just chill out?
Yeah it's definitely only Americans who take issue with religious zealots and speak up about it.
Should have spoken a little louder when roe v wade was on the table big enlightened SF guy. The difference is you’re all evangelicals, whether it be religious zealotry or politically correct zealotry or capitalist zealotry or constitutional zealotry. It would be chill but you’re the only country to have ever dropped a nuke and you have all these military bases around the world and make all the guns. So again, chill out with all your nondenominational evangelical embrace of literally any idea. It’s a puritanical mode of learning you just gotta give up. Good luck.
What the fuck are you talking about you kook?
I think he's trying to say that Americans take things too far, which is certainly true, but "evangelical" has a meaning and it's not a synonym for "zealot", and while America has a massive population of evangelicals, it's also true that evangelicalism is basically the only growing form of Christianity worldwide. Literally I am just guessing here because those paragraphs are gibberish.
Actually if you look up the definition of evangelical they use the word zealous in the definition. I don’t judge. You went to school in America.
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Only if they are Muslim.
Carpet company is one of the best out right now and both owners are fairly devote. You may not agree but you should at least respect those who dedicate themselves.
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Only if they are Muslim.
you wackass bigot
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You yanks take on being non religious like it’s a religion. Stop acting like psychopaths. I gotta say though legal abortions are handy so I kinda get where you’re coming from. Shame you psychos have all the nukes and guns. Can you all just chill out?
Yeah it's definitely only Americans who take issue with religious zealots and speak up about it.
Should have spoken a little louder when roe v wade was on the table big enlightened SF guy. The difference is you’re all evangelicals, whether it be religious zealotry or politically correct zealotry or capitalist zealotry or constitutional zealotry. It would be chill but you’re the only country to have ever dropped a nuke and you have all these military bases around the world and make all the guns. So again, chill out with all your nondenominational evangelical embrace of literally any idea. It’s a puritanical mode of learning you just gotta give up. Good luck.
What the fuck are you talking about you kook?
I think he's trying to say that Americans take things too far, which is certainly true, but "evangelical" has a meaning and it's not a synonym for "zealot", and while America has a massive population of evangelicals, it's also true that evangelicalism is basically the only growing form of Christianity worldwide. Literally I am just guessing here because those paragraphs are gibberish.
Thank you for the help.
People that paint with a brush as broad as an entire country are closed-minded assholes and can fuck right off. Not saying America is not a complete disaster, but save your xenophobic population bashing for someone who doesn't think you're insane.
Save your outraged smokescreen for someone who lacks the ability of critical thought.
You call it xenophobic population bashing. So be it. But when is your population going to stop drone strikes on Pakistani kids? When will your population stop supporting apartheid in Palestine?
Religious pros are lame but America is just one big religious pro. You should all strive to break up the USA. Afghanistan, Iraq, Korea, Vietnam. All wars you have started and lost due to the zealotry of your exceptionalism. You’re too big and too stupid to hold that much power. Please be aware of this and fuck off.
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You yanks take on being non religious like it’s a religion. Stop acting like psychopaths. I gotta say though legal abortions are handy so I kinda get where you’re coming from. Shame you psychos have all the nukes and guns. Can you all just chill out?
Yeah it's definitely only Americans who take issue with religious zealots and speak up about it.
Should have spoken a little louder when roe v wade was on the table big enlightened SF guy. The difference is you’re all evangelicals, whether it be religious zealotry or politically correct zealotry or capitalist zealotry or constitutional zealotry. It would be chill but you’re the only country to have ever dropped a nuke and you have all these military bases around the world and make all the guns. So again, chill out with all your nondenominational evangelical embrace of literally any idea. It’s a puritanical mode of learning you just gotta give up. Good luck.
What the fuck are you talking about you kook?
I think he's trying to say that Americans take things too far, which is certainly true, but "evangelical" has a meaning and it's not a synonym for "zealot", and while America has a massive population of evangelicals, it's also true that evangelicalism is basically the only growing form of Christianity worldwide. Literally I am just guessing here because those paragraphs are gibberish.
Thank you for the help.
People that paint with a brush as broad as an entire country are closed-minded assholes and can fuck right off. Not saying America is not a complete disaster, but save your xenophobic population bashing for someone who doesn't think you're insane.
Save your outraged smokescreen for someone who lacks the ability of critical thought.
You call it xenophobic population bashing. So be it. But when is your population going to stop drone strikes on Pakistani kids? When will your population stop supporting apartheid in Palestine?
Religious pros are lame but America is just one big religious pro. You should all strive to break up the USA. Afghanistan, Iraq, Korea, Vietnam. All wars you have started and lost due to the zealotry of your exceptionalism. You’re too big and too stupid to hold that much power. Please be aware of this and fuck off.
Dawg you're repeatedly equating a couple of dudes on a skateboarding message board to the entire population of a massive country. You're definitely the stupid one here.
P.S. not American so you can fly that one right on past me.
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You yanks take on being non religious like it’s a religion. Stop acting like psychopaths. I gotta say though legal abortions are handy so I kinda get where you’re coming from. Shame you psychos have all the nukes and guns. Can you all just chill out?
Yeah it's definitely only Americans who take issue with religious zealots and speak up about it.
Should have spoken a little louder when roe v wade was on the table big enlightened SF guy. The difference is you’re all evangelicals, whether it be religious zealotry or politically correct zealotry or capitalist zealotry or constitutional zealotry. It would be chill but you’re the only country to have ever dropped a nuke and you have all these military bases around the world and make all the guns. So again, chill out with all your nondenominational evangelical embrace of literally any idea. It’s a puritanical mode of learning you just gotta give up. Good luck.
What the fuck are you talking about you kook?
I think he's trying to say that Americans take things too far, which is certainly true, but "evangelical" has a meaning and it's not a synonym for "zealot", and while America has a massive population of evangelicals, it's also true that evangelicalism is basically the only growing form of Christianity worldwide. Literally I am just guessing here because those paragraphs are gibberish.
Thank you for the help.
People that paint with a brush as broad as an entire country are closed-minded assholes and can fuck right off. Not saying America is not a complete disaster, but save your xenophobic population bashing for someone who doesn't think you're insane.
Save your outraged smokescreen for someone who lacks the ability of critical thought.
You call it xenophobic population bashing. So be it. But when is your population going to stop drone strikes on Pakistani kids? When will your population stop supporting apartheid in Palestine?
Religious pros are lame but America is just one big religious pro. You should all strive to break up the USA. Afghanistan, Iraq, Korea, Vietnam. All wars you have started and lost due to the zealotry of your exceptionalism. You’re too big and too stupid to hold that much power. Please be aware of this and fuck off.
Dawg you're repeatedly equating a couple of dudes on a skateboarding message board to the entire population of a massive country. You're definitely the stupid one here.
P.S. not American so you can fly that one right on past me.
Actually I’m talking about the actions of a democratically elected government and the religious modes of thought that allows this.
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i fuckin love being american, look at the insanity we cause in peoples minds
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i fuckin love being american, look at the insanity we cause in peoples minds
Lol like PTSD in Iraqi 11 year olds lol
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You Australian Heaps Cool?
Those that live in glass houses and all that...
Let's stop with the massive generalizations and use our brains to judge individuals by their words and actions instead of the government they pay taxes to. I presume you do not want to be held personally accountable for aboriginal genocide?
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You Australian Heaps Cool?
Those that live in glass houses and all that...
Let's stop with the massive generalizations and use our brains to judge individuals by their words and actions instead of the government they pay taxes to. I presume you do not want to be held personally accountable for aboriginal genocide?
Yes I do want to be held accountable and should be. Australia is a backwards sinkhole of white bread conservatism and needs to face up to our actions in the past. Stop shirking responsibilities of your atrocities around the world and face up to the uncomfortable reality.
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I do my best. I work with vulnerable/ marginalized populations daily. Just got two young Black American women housed last week. Not that I see that as my individual penance for my counties (UK and USA) history. I don't align myself that way. Privilege should be examined yes, but citizenship does not influence how I act.
And you? What do you do to make up for your country's atrocities?
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I do my best. I work with vulnerable/ marginalized populations daily. Just got two young Black American women housed last week.
And you? What do you do to make up for your country's atrocities?
I don’t bring up issues relating to indigenous populations when we’re talking about religion as a kind of gotcha in the face of criticism.
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You probably should.
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If you’re not going to hold to account the citizens of a country who has acted terribly due to a culture of a religious/capitalist exceptionalism, where the fuck am I meant to turn? More power to you for doing positive things but your government is made of your citizens right? Your government is voted on by your citizens.
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In summation, religious pros do indeed suck and are emblematic of wider problems in society.
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If you’re not going to hold to account the citizens of a country who has acted terribly due to a culture of a religious/capitalist exceptionalism, where the fuck am I meant to turn? More power to you for doing positive things but your government is made of your citizens right? Your government is voted on by your citizens.
Not to mention all that gerrymandering and voter suppression.
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Imagine sitting in Australia and talking like this. It’s a global system which benefits everyone in “the west” and if you’re in a settler colonial country the odds are basically certain that you’re a direct beneficiary of American violence.
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Imagine sitting in Australia and talking like this. It’s a global system which benefits everyone in “the west” and if you’re in a settler colonial country the odds are basically certain that you’re a direct beneficiary of American violence.
Beneficiary? Enslaved more like.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/23/gough-whitlam-1975-coup-ended-australian-independence (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/23/gough-whitlam-1975-coup-ended-australian-independence)
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If you’re not going to hold to account the citizens of a country who has acted terribly due to a culture of a religious/capitalist exceptionalism, where the fuck am I meant to turn? More power to you for doing positive things but your government is made of your citizens right? Your government is voted on by your citizens.
Not to mention all that gerrymandering and voter suppression.
Nah nah, it's all up to us as individuals to atone for the crimes committed by the government.
@HeapsCool i share your criticisms of the US's imperialism, and I also think that the evangelical values that are sewn into its fabric (as well as America's collective subconscious) have a bit to do with the global violence its comitted. However, what do you expect SLAP posters to do about righting systemic wrongs? You want @Frank and Fred to snap his fingers and fix it? You're taking pot shots at the wrong people lol.
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If you’re not going to hold to account the citizens of a country who has acted terribly due to a culture of a religious/capitalist exceptionalism, where the fuck am I meant to turn? More power to you for doing positive things but your government is made of your citizens right? Your government is voted on by your citizens.
That's a nice theory but I doubt even you believe that.
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The function of religion isn’t having true beliefs but being at home in the world.
If someone’s got that, they’re a lot better off than us homeless fools deluded by ideas and devoted to a phantom self
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I like change my statement.
It depends on the head space. I have friends that went balls deep into religion and become like better from it.
Then there's people I know who just got crazier. Capt Kirk shit
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The function of religion isn’t having true beliefs but being at home in the world.
If someone’s got that, they’re a lot better off than us homeless fools deluded by ideas and devoted to a phantom self
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If you’re not going to hold to account the citizens of a country who has acted terribly due to a culture of a religious/capitalist exceptionalism, where the fuck am I meant to turn? More power to you for doing positive things but your government is made of your citizens right? Your government is voted on by your citizens.
Not to mention all that gerrymandering and voter suppression.
Nah nah, it's all up to us as individuals to atone for the crimes committed by the government.
@HeapsCool i share your criticisms of the US's imperialism, and I also think that the evangelical values that are sewn into its fabric (as well as America's collective subconscious) have a bit to do with the global violence its comitted. However, what do you expect SLAP posters to do about righting systemic wrongs? You want @Frank and Fred to snap his fingers and fix it? You're taking pot shots at the wrong people lol.
No change is a gradual process of new ideas and discussions. Snap of the fingers is a Hollywoodisation of a more complex process - another issue with the mythologizing nature of American evangelical thought processes I won't get into here. My arguments are a little hyperbolic for sure but I'm not going to be called a kook and insane (I'm referring to GAY's characterisation of me here) when I'm right.
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If you really want to place blame on anyone person’s contribution to all of the religious far right craziness you’d not have to look much farther then the owner of Fox News propaganda, an Australian guy name Rupert Murdoch.
Yes a bastard for sure but also representative of how Australians are more aware of American culture than Americans.
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In @GAY 's defense, you went off on a tirade claiming all Americans subscribe to some form of zealotry and blaming him for not speaking up loud enough to defend roe v wade. That's pretty crazy.
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If you really want to place blame on anyone person’s contribution to all of the religious far right craziness you’d not have to look much farther then the owner of Fox News propaganda, an Australian guy name Rupert Murdoch.
Yes a bastard for sure but also representative of how Australians are more aware of American culture than Americans.
You might have some good points here and there but you bury them with more and more outlandish generalizations and sweeping statements.
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In @GAY 's defense, you went off on a tirade claiming all Americans subscribe to some form of zealotry and blaming him for not speaking up loud enough to defend roe v wade. That's pretty crazy.
I think it’s a fair, succinct and literarily interesting take on world events.
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Not if they're from chruch of skatan
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In @GAY 's defense, you went off on a tirade claiming all Americans subscribe to some form of zealotry and blaming him for not speaking up loud enough to defend roe v wade. That's pretty crazy.
I think it’s a fair, succinct and literarily interesting take on world events.
It was nearly unintelligible and you're not half as clever as you think you are.
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really breaking new ground here lads, way to go
to answer the thread title ray barbee is cool, hosoi sux, its all in how you articulate yourself etc
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Correct ^^^
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Just sharing Ray Barbee and Lance Mountain love. They are great. That's all.
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But what about the tectonic shifts in ecclesiastical law in western Europe in the dead-center of the Middle ages, man?
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thats a discussion for a different thread and also 1000x more interesting than what's being discussed here
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No. Can't tar em' all with the one brush.
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Slaman Agah always seemed nice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e_lb0BtZtk
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I still fuck with Sierra Fellers.