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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: Sanka Coffie on October 20, 2014, 05:04:03 PM
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just an observation but it seems like every single new part that comes out has some NBD on clipper. Both spots originated within a few years of each other so I was wondering why hubba was shut down and clipper wasn't? (not from SF so I don't really know a backstory on this.)
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Isn't it just the old clipper?
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since you know it's not 'new' it can't be the 'new' hubba hideout but i know what you mean. clipper is at a school whereas hubba was part of the corporate cityscape and by it's name and folklore you know it was a place to consume hard drugs. prolly cause crack smoking is rare at clipper it has stood the testes of time vs hubba that got tagged a bunch, could've been a lawsuit if some chucklehead like joe valdez were to fall off the side and maybe was a black eye for the business people who were not smoking crack that their coworkers were.
hubba was prolly better cause it was both ways and technically there were 4 hubba hideouts even though hardly anyone did lines [jeremy wray].
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clipper ledge is lame, it's pretty low by todays standards.
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since you know it's not 'new' it can't be the 'new' hubba hideout but i know what you mean. clipper is at a school whereas hubba was part of the corporate cityscape and by it's name and folklore you know it was a place to consume hard drugs. prolly cause crack smoking is rare at clipper it has stood the testes of time vs hubba that got tagged a bunch, could've been a lawsuit if some chucklehead like joe valdez were to fall off the side and maybe was a black eye for the business people who were not smoking crack that their coworkers were.
hubba was prolly better cause it was both ways and technically there were 4 hubba hideouts even though hardly anyone did lines [jeremy wray].
I liked how EA skate used an actual replica of it with the multiple step downs , and that thing was hard as hell to skate in the game. If anything is the new bubba it would be that giant hubba in norcal I attached a photo with Heath.
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The clippers are under new ownership.
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clipper ledge is lame, it's pretty low by todays standards.
Lame huh
Lame by your standards ? Or lame by A Pros standards ?
What tricks have you done on Clipper ?
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clipper ledge is lame, it's pretty low by todays standards.
Lame huh
Lame by your standards ? Or lame by A Pros standards ?
What tricks have you done on Clipper ?
none, he's a fat kid from canada w/ a girl's name. he kinda resembles bam margerine back when bam had sausage tits and did kf 5050s on mini ramps. i'm a bit disappointed by tracergate. i wanted him to be the welder he claimed to be. i wanted him to embody the blue collar angst of a man who when not fusing pieces of metal to each other vented his dissatisfaction w/ a [skate] world gone wrong via dumb threads. alas, alas, a chubby lass.
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Hahaha...Yah
Tracer is that coworker who ask pointless questions at meeting & keeps everyone there even longer.
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Big difference between Clipper and Hubba is that you can only approach Clipper one way (goofy b/s, regs f/s) whereas Hubba you could approach both ways.
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clipper ledge is lame, it's pretty low by todays standards.
Lame huh
Lame by your standards ? Or lame by A Pros standards ?
What tricks have you done on Clipper ?
did footage finally surface? did he turn out to be a mythological creature?
(http://i.imgur.com/KErfjPj.jpg)
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joe valdez
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Hahaha...Yah
Tracer is that coworker who ask pointless questions at meeting & keeps everyone there even longer.
wow i wanted to contribute to this thread but couldnt; i flashed back to this reddit shit, i read it today, about "work etiquette" or some bullshit. I was definitely regretting the mexican i had for lunch, mucho diarrhea-o 8)
edit: fuck, meant to put "contribute positively" guys, wow look at me, editing like im redditing! quirky
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Big difference between Clipper and Hubba is that you can only approach Clipper one way (goofy b/s, regs f/s) whereas Hubba you could approach both ways.
in all seriousness though this actually is a pretty good point, also dont most people roll in off some plywood to get on clipper?
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Hubba was being skated damn near a decade before Clipper. Clipper isn't the new hubba because nobody gives a shit about NBD's the way they used to anymore. It used to be a way to prove yourself, today no single trick will.
I also liked the fact that back when hubba was really going off, it wasn't skated by strictly rail kids at all. Everybody who could got something down hubba- Karl Watson, Josh Kalis, Marcus McBride- those dudes weren't known for skating rails, but each got a serious piece of history there, same with plenty of others. Clipper is just another spot for today's rail kids to skate.
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I wouldnt call jake johnson or ryan gallant rail kids. Couldnt imagine a frontside slappy on hubba either. I think the comparison between the two spots is pretty apt. Clipper is like hubba with inflation. Its easier to skate height wise. I agree nbds are less shocking in general but clipper still has that interest for me at least.
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don't take my joe valdez out of context!
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Hubba was being skated damn near a decade before Clipper. Clipper isn't the new hubba because nobody gives a shit about NBD's the way they used to anymore. It used to be a way to prove yourself, today no single trick will.
I also liked the fact that back when hubba was really going off, it wasn't skated by strictly rail kids at all. Everybody who could got something down hubba- Karl Watson, Josh Kalis, Marcus McBride- those dudes weren't known for skating rails, but each got a serious piece of history there, same with plenty of others. Clipper is just another spot for today's rail kids to skate.
Can't leave out Lavar. He shitted on Hubba.
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clipper ledge is lame, it's pretty low by todays standards.
Lame huh
Lame by your standards ? Or lame by A Pros standards ?
What tricks have you done on Clipper ?
did footage finally surface? did he turn out to be a mythological creature?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/10453664_1496984533852228_2118805386_a.jpg)
See more here...
http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=82032.30 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=82032.30)
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Said it before and I'll say it again, Clipper is the best spot to watch tricks go down @ on video of the 2000's.
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Hubba was being skated damn near a decade before Clipper. Clipper isn't the new hubba because nobody gives a shit about NBD's the way they used to anymore. It used to be a way to prove yourself, today no single trick will.
I also liked the fact that back when hubba was really going off, it wasn't skated by strictly rail kids at all. Everybody who could got something down hubba- Karl Watson, Josh Kalis, Marcus McBride- those dudes weren't known for skating rails, but each got a serious piece of history there, same with plenty of others. Clipper is just another spot for today's rail kids to skate.
Whats the first clip of Hubba being skated? I would of thought it was something around the time of Questionable, pretty sure the first clips of Clipper are Sheffy's fs 50-50 and Kostons bs 50-50 in Mouse which is 96 i'm pretty sure.
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Hubba was being skated damn near a decade before Clipper. Clipper isn't the new hubba because nobody gives a shit about NBD's the way they used to anymore. It used to be a way to prove yourself, today no single trick will.
I also liked the fact that back when hubba was really going off, it wasn't skated by strictly rail kids at all. Everybody who could got something down hubba- Karl Watson, Josh Kalis, Marcus McBride- those dudes weren't known for skating rails, but each got a serious piece of history there, same with plenty of others. Clipper is just another spot for today's rail kids to skate.
your timeline sounds about right. wade speyer and henry sanchez were the first to skate hubba [the ledges anyways] so prolly 92/93. rattray noseblunted clipper when me and my buddy were in SF. my pal got background props of rattray skating 20th and harrison in that hawaiian shirt. guess there was a little gap between clipper being skated and people doing harder tricks on it but along w/ markovich them girl guys were getting on it pretty early.
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^92-93? Dude, they skated it in questionable.
Speyer got the first photo/coverage of any sort there with a crook in a dogtown ad in like 89 or 90.
People didn't really start seriously sessioning clipper until like 99-2000
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Can we call it Chubba
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I read that Pontus Alv handled a 50-50 on Clipper before Sheffey or Koston - even though it ended up in Mad Circle's Five Flavors which came after Mouse.
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^92-93? Dude, they skated it in questionable.
Speyer got the first photo/coverage of any sort there with a crook in a dogtown ad in like 89 or 90.
People didn't really start seriously sessioning clipper until like 99-2000
wasn't questionable 92? i'm gonna guess speyer/sanchez was no earlier than 91. i'm sure they didn't do a crook on a pig board w/ no nose. would've had to be post 'barnyard'.
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Transworld has the Speyer crook on Hubba as taking place in 91. I agree with your point about Clipper, it really didn't have people blowing it up until the late 90's/early 2000's guys such as Appleyard got some heavy tricks down it.
http://skateboarding.transworld.net/features/back-in-the-day-hubbas-first-grind/ (http://skateboarding.transworld.net/features/back-in-the-day-hubbas-first-grind/)
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clipper ledge is lame, it's pretty low by todays standards.
i bet you $100 that you've never been there in person.
Clipper is fucking gnarly.
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oceanside hubba is also really huge. but it doesn't have any lore per se besides nick dompierre's bs noseblunt bail photo.
stanford hubba still seems like a legit proving ground. clipper gets enders so you cant not agree its sort of taken hubba's place.
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clipper ledge is lame, it's pretty low by todays standards.
Lame huh
Lame by your standards ? Or lame by A Pros standards ?
What tricks have you done on Clipper ?
did footage finally surface? did he turn out to be a mythological creature?
See more here...
http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=82032.30 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=82032.30)
thanks man, gnar'd.
and since when is 5 years a decade? or did someone fail math class?
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^92-93? Dude, they skated it in questionable.
Speyer got the first photo/coverage of any sort there with a crook in a dogtown ad in like 89 or 90.
People didn't really start seriously sessioning clipper until like 99-2000
Wade's crooks was in '91.
And you guys are all bigger dinguses than I thought if you think that's Tracer.
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Can we call it Chubba
Or Shlubba?
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Or Shlubba?
Chubba Ranks
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^92-93? Dude, they skated it in questionable.
Speyer got the first photo/coverage of any sort there with a crook in a dogtown ad in like 89 or 90.
People didn't really start seriously sessioning clipper until like 99-2000
And you guys are all bigger dinguses than I thought if you think that's Tracer.
Speyers crook is the first thing to go down, im sure everyone saw that pic, but not a lot of people saw the Dogtown video, i would say the first widely seen clips were in Questionable, i think someone may have noseslid it in Love Child.
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personal favorite was freddy's switch 5-0. I think my dad still has this issue around somewhere
(http://m.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Magazine/Covers/COVERS_THRASHER/1995/TH9502.jpg)
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joe valdez
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When it comes to Hubba, Lavar and Lennie Kirk were the kings. Though Marcus's heelflip back 5050 always stood out.
And decade as in, hubba was big in the 90's, clipper in the 2000's.
And clipper isn't that big. Its basically 12 stair skatepark size hubba with a loafed edge, that is still down 12 stairs, making the shit that has gone down on it fucking gnarly.
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When Danny Garcia nollie flip noseslid Hubba I about shit myself.
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Wait I swear Wade Speyer's crook was in 1989? Also, BA made hubba look so small with his front blunt imo.
Pops' switch back 50 will always be my favorite thing done down clipper.
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Hubba was being skated damn near a decade before Clipper.
And decade as in, hubba was big in the 90's, clipper in the 2000's.
moving those goal posts again, are we?
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When Danny Garcia nollie flip noseslid Hubba I about shit myself.
that same day rodrigo did it first and nollie heel. tim oconnor was yelling at people 'don't film that'. at the time i didn't realize what a jerky thing it was.
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clipper ledge is lame, it's pretty low by todays standards.
man that shit is precarious as fuck
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Never saw a single pic/video do Hubba Hideout any justice. 1st trip to SF driving up I was thinking front noseslide, nosegrind, and nollie back tail (tricks that are easier on higher ledges). Got there and it was a reality check. Nollie tail immediately eliminated, fucked myself up trying to front noseslide- kept jamming my nose into the ledge a couple inches below the top. Frontside nosegrind idea got trashed after 50-50 attempts even though it was my go-to trick at the time for anything long/high. Walked away with a backside noseslide and a messed up fs 50 where I grinded more sideways than on the top of the ledge and landed in a powerslide on the bricks.
Clipper is still gnarly. The edge was rounded even before it got skated a lot so it can't be easy to lock into anything on it. Like comparing a granny green apple to a honeycrisp. Both are great in different ways.
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I always loved how Mark Gonzales skates the down ledge in the same court area as Clipper.
"Mark uhh... the spots over there."
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Hubba was being skated damn near a decade before Clipper.
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And decade as in, hubba was big in the 90's, clipper in the 2000's.
moving those goal posts again, are we?
not at all, moron.
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It Crazy how little Lavar killed Hubba !?!? Being that small & being able to do grown man Pro tricks on it :-|
Lavar McBride has been the only skater to get away with little kid style in Skate History
Never saw a single pic/video do Hubba Hideout any justice. 1st trip to SF driving up I was thinking front noseslide, nosegrind, and nollie back tail (tricks that are easier on higher ledges). Got there and it was a reality check. Nollie tail immediately eliminated, fucked myself up trying to front noseslide- kept jamming my nose into the ledge a couple inches below the top. Frontside nosegrind idea got trashed after 50-50 attempts even though it was my go-to trick at the time for anything long/high. Walked away with a backside noseslide and a messed up fs 50 where I grinded more sideways than on the top of the ledge and landed in a powerslide on the bricks.
Clipper is still gnarly. The edge was rounded even before it got skated a lot so it can't be easy to lock into anything on it. Like comparing a granny green apple to a honeycrisp. Both are great in different ways.
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When Danny Garcia nollie flip noseslid Hubba I about shit myself.
This. Especially as I had been there a few months earlier and had a very personal battle with a regular nose slide.
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When Danny Garcia nollie flip noseslid Hubba I about shit myself.
Did you win that battle? Props either way for even trying. In my case the hardest part was keeping my feet on my board between the end of the ledge and the ground. The dismount drop is so high.
I was never good at skating big stuff but I once did a noseslide on a 10 stair rail at CSUN (Cal State Northridge) auditorium; one of the brown squared/rectangular SoCal rails that are easy to lock in to. Still, the noseslide at Hubba felt way gnarlier and took more tries. Felt so good after, until about 1/2 hour later when SFPD impounded our boards for skating Pier 7.
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Hubba was being skated damn near a decade before Clipper.
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And decade as in, hubba was big in the 90's, clipper in the 2000's.
moving those goal posts again, are we?
that was rhetorical. of course you were, despite your delusions.
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When Danny Garcia nollie flip noseslid Hubba I about shit myself.
Did you win that battle? Props either way for even trying. In my case the hardest part was keeping my feet on my board between the end of the ledge and the ground. The dismount drop is so high.
I was never good at skating big stuff but I once did a noseslide on a 10 stair rail at CSUN (Cal State Northridge) auditorium; one of the brown squared/rectangular SoCal rails that are easy to lock in to. Still, the noseslide at Hubba felt way gnarlier and took more tries. Felt so good after, until about 1/2 hour later when SFPD impounded our boards for skating Pier 7.
You know what I am saying then. Nollie flip nose is fucking regular.
And lets not even go into back nose blunt...
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Hubba was being skated damn near a decade before Clipper.
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And decade as in, hubba was big in the 90's, clipper in the 2000's.
moving those goal posts again, are we?
that was rhetorical. of course you were, despite your delusions.
Ok, Mr. Confident, break me of my delusions. Explain the contradiction in those statements, or anything factually incorrect about them. Hubba was big in the early to mid 90's, and Clipper started really getting sessioned in the 2000's, and is still being skated. One was big during the EMB era, one got big during the rail obsessed era. Please, explain to me how I am wrong you smug bastard.
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personal favorite was freddy's switch 5-0.
(http://m.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Magazine/Covers/COVERS_THRASHER/1995/TH9502.jpg)
i second this
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I've heard people say that Wade's photo was in '91, but the ON video about Hubba said the photo was in an '89 issue of Thrasher.
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Hubba was being skated damn near a decade before Clipper.
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And decade as in, hubba was big in the 90's, clipper in the 2000's.
moving those goal posts again, are we?
that was rhetorical. of course you were, despite your delusions.
Hubba hideout was big in the 90's when it was skateable. How many years went by before some east coast dudes got the balls to pull the knobs off? Hubba isn't still skated today because it isn't there.
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I was trying to remember tricks on Clipper in the 90's beside Sheffey's and Koston's 50-50s in Mouse. Rattray noseblunted Clipper in 98, and Markovich 5-0'd it the same year. Heath bs lipped it in 99. Kenny Reed bs 5-0 in The Reason... Anything else go down there during those years? I know they called it the diamond ledge in the 90s because of a rail there which was diamond shaped, but I can't find any footage of it right now...
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I loved seeing never been done's at Hubba Hideout during the 90s. It's cool when a certain spot become a measuring stick for pro's to one up each other. Koston's backside noseblunt and BA's frontside blunt at Hubba were both fucking ridiculous. Those tricks made me realize what truly gifted skateboarders are capable of.
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1993 - Tentacles of Destruction - Steve Olson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR_IA3hPC0o#)
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1993 - Tentacles of Destruction - Steve Olson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR_IA3hPC0o#)
My favorite Olson. What ever happened to that guy? and where can i get some mustard yellow pants?