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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: white rapper on June 03, 2015, 08:53:11 AM
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are they really better than stock bushings? I skate thunders and use the stock thunder bushings but it seems like everyone puts bones bushings in their trucks. whats up with this? wouldn't the stock bushings be better since they are technically designed for the truck they are in?
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hard bones bushings with loosely tightened trucks
(http://www.thecoli.com/media/melo.3187/full?d=1418106344)
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the best bushings are the ones that come with the trucks because they are the only ones designed specifically for that truck. there is a reason why venture's bushings differ from indy and thunder.
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they used to come standard with brown cords and white tees
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My friends ride pretty tight trucks and whenever they get a new set I might ride around on their boards a little. I've noticed that brand new trucks ridden tighter always suck with stock bushings. Like, they don't go back to their normal position very quickly after turning or I actually have to force them back. Maybe some better bushings would solve this problem.
Don't think it makes a difference with loose trucks though. I ride mine fairly loose and bought some bones mediums to see what the hype was about and noticed no difference.
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they used to come standard with brown cords and white tees
Haha that's a good one
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Every set I've ever purchased has fallen apart pretty quick. I didn't over tighten them I was careful about that after I bought my first set in like 2011.
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The Indy ones are perfect right when they first crack, then you have like two months til they completely fall off the truck
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The Indy ones are perfect right when they first crack, then you have like two months til they completely fall off the truck
I've always had that problem with bones bushings. Then i started riding the genuine parts indy bushings (if that's what they're called). Those didn't need to break in either and have been holding up for over two years!
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its true they are trash. clouds or the thunder bushings
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Bones bushings are 12 bucks for a set- give them a shot.
Wouldn't that be worth it to know for yourself?
Skating is all about personal preference, but every once in a while it's fun to experiment with a different setup.
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I have a bunch of Doh-Doh's so I just use those.
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news to me.
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I've always run into the issue of crushing bushings after over-tightening them
I bought some bones hards, but they felt too stiff, so i bought some mediums. I thought the mediums were too squishy, so i swapped the bottoms bushings out with the hards, and then tried them the other way, with hard tops and medium bottoms. I ended up crushing one of the medium bushings, so I put the hard bottoms back on with the hard tops, and they feel much better than when I first put them on. I think there is a bit of a break in period, though they advertise there is not.
Just buy some different bushings and experiment.
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They are the Swiss version of bushings.
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What kind of bushings does Daewon Song use? Those are my favorite.
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Only reason I have changed bushings was cause the indy ones blew out after year or so skating
I think they don't really matter at all, as long as they don't break
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news to me.
if you watch a bunch of setup videos on youtube, you will notice that most pros use them. westgate uses them so maybe they help with pop?
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(http://www.thecoli.com/media/melo.3187/full?d=1418106344)
nailed it
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I have a bunch of Doh-Doh's so I just use those.
Same, I have the yellows in my indys
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I purchased some Indy bushings, for me it's just easier to swap out the material before hand
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I purchased some Indy bushings, for me it's just easier to swap out the material before hand
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lU3SRp70O0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lU3SRp70O0#)
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The aftermarket Indy bushings are the best I've ever used in any trucks. The key is finding the hardness and shape (conical or cylinder) that works for you
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because chemtrails
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I just find the whole "replacing your bushings" thing a little weird. I have never, ever changed my bushings, regardless of whether or not their cracked or whatever else variable there is. Not to say that I don't think they have an effect, but sometimes I feel like bones bushing or aftermarket bushings are kind of a placebo. Maybe I was never meant to understand.
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Skate tight trucks then bushings don't matter and you get more pop.
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I skate loose trucks. Use doh doh mids.
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bones bushings are very prone to breakage. indys are too, krux makes the best street bushings lo or hi
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Been riding Ace highs with medium Bones bushings for years now, always had problems with the stock Ace bushings and ever since I switched its been pure bliss.
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Been riding Ace highs with medium Bones bushings for years now, always had problems with the stock Ace bushings and ever since I switched its been pure bliss.
Ace stock bushings are garbage. Hards barely tightened is perfect, found mediums mush out too quick. Get wobbles like a mofo though.
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Had a set of hard and mediums of bones bushings. Hate them. I like indy or thunder bushings.
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They feel good without break in time but tend to crack quickly. Powell has a good warranty policy but I did not want to keep having the same problems so back to stock Indy bushings.
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Indy stock bushings aren't even that bad when you break em in. Had a set for close to a year with no problems.
Currently skating a set of the aftermarket Indy bushings (the green creature ones, they're like 90a or somewhere close to that) and they feel really good.
Has anyone ever skated thunder bushings in Indy trucks? I did years ago and they felt really good, 94a thunder aftermarkets. Then I tried it again a year later with another set of 94a thunder aftermarkets but they made the indys feel all squirrelly and unstable that time around. I've tried thunder bushings on a few more occasions since then but they still always make indys feel weird.
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I used to skate the soft bones, before that the medium bones. Now I am skating Thunder bushings in thunder trucks and they're fine. I squished out the medium bones and the soft ones but they felt okay.
I also am not very fussy when it comes to hardware stuff. I will skate wheels for almost a year before I realize they've been dead for a while...
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Stock Indy bushings are the way to go. Bones Bushings fucking suck. Can't stand that they have that little plastic washer on the bottom of it. Why can't it just be flat? I was just about to put my stock washer on. Not to mention they're so soft, I can split them in a few weeks and I don't even skate tight trucks. Only thing Bones Bushings are good for, are people with really tight trucks and need that hawwrrdddd.
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Probably because kids tighten the shit out of their trucks when they first get them, causing the stock ones to crack. Not knowing anything, they think they have to get new bushings so they ride over to zumiez and grab whatever they have, which are bones bushings.
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Skate tight trucks.
(http://www.cvs.com/bizcontent/merchandising/productimages/large/980000763.jpg)
I know it's all personal preference but tight trucks are the worst.
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Indy stock bushings aren't even that bad when you break em in. Had a set for close to a year with no problems.
Currently skating a set of the aftermarket Indy bushings (the green creature ones, they're like 90a or somewhere close to that) and they feel really good.
Has anyone ever skated thunder bushings in Indy trucks? I did years ago and they felt really good, 94a thunder aftermarkets. Then I tried it again a year later with another set of 94a thunder aftermarkets but they made the indys feel all squirrelly and unstable that time around. I've tried thunder bushings on a few more occasions since then but they still always make indys feel weird.
I do, it's a really interesting feel. Not quite like Indy, not quite like thunder. Not bad overall. They are the 90a durometer ones.
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I don't know why everyone rides them but I started after reading a "tnt" interview and he said to do it so fuk why not. Their good if you like your trucks to return to Centre. What's "weird" about changing you're bushings? (You can buy urathane pivot cups now too)
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Harder bushings equal more pop.
They also promise quicker and harder turns because of the little core thing in there.
Sounds like youre talking out of your ass if you ask me
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I've skated with a Bone's hard bushing on top and a stock Indy bushing on the bottom for the last 10+ years. I tried a lot of different variations and I like this one the best. I never had a problem with Bone's bushings. The last set I had lasted 3 years, and I only stopped skating them because I got new trucks.
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Ive been skating the green 94 a deluxe "bait and tackle" bushings. Pretty sure they used to come stock in ventures back in the day? Anyway, they are great.
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because indy stocks don't feel like they used to :'(
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swore by the soft blue dohdohs forever, then those became a pain in the ass to find. tried soft bones and those were destroyed after a couple sessions. fell in love with yellow bones and now im destroying those.
but they definitely feel good.
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stock bushings are the way to go in my experience, otherwise it fucks with the symmetry of the truck. aftermarket jawns just go bad more quickly.
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are they really better than stock bushings? I skate thunders and use the stock thunder bushings but it seems like everyone puts bones bushings in their trucks. whats up with this? wouldn't the stock bushings be better since they are technically designed for the truck they are in?
people just dont like breaking in their bushings. but all brands of trucks i broke in stock without moving the kingpin nut until they are broken in. each brand of truck makes their bushings specifically for their trucks. different height bushings will change the geometry of the truck. bones bushings usually break after a month or so and arent worth it in my opinion. i have a set of medium and a set of hard new sitting in my setup box. break in your bushings right and they will last the life of the trucks. happy shredding!
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six years later?!
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They are the Swiss version of bushings.
Finally someone gets it
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Bones hard bushings creak and restrict turning. Everyone uses them.
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Bones bushings seem to have little to no break in period, so i can see why pros would like them if they're going through gear a lot, it would help them keep a more consistent feel. I've never been a huge fan personally, but i did enjoy the soft ones when I was trying ventures out. Those were the only things that made those trucks tolerable.
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They turn regular Thunder Hollows into Thunder hellos.
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i love how slap doesnt really get mad that a newbie just bumped a six year old topic and everyone just continues convo like nothing happened.
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bones bushings still suck. 6 years since this topic and i still feel very strongly about this. who the fuck wants to hear their bushings “pop” every time they lean to one side.
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My stock Thunder bushings from 2016 lasted longer than some bones meds from last year. Wasn't stoked
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I must weigh in that I skated the Krux stock bushings on a set of black trucks (black bushings) and not only were they basically rock hard, they also made this incredibly annoying and distracting loud squeaking noises... And I even lubed them up to see if it would go away... It Didn't. And they never really broke in even after skating them everyday for 2 months. My board was always tilted and locked the fuck in to the right or left depending on what side I stepped on last.
Needless to say I finally put bones or doh dohs mediums in and I finally felt what the trucks were like and enjoyed skating the board.
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are they really better than stock bushings? I skate thunders and use the stock thunder bushings but it seems like everyone puts bones bushings in their trucks. whats up with this? wouldn't the stock bushings be better since they are technically designed for the truck they are in?
Bone bushings are trash from my experience. The stock Indy bushings or even doh dohs are better IMO. Bones bushings blow out so fast and then just stop working and get suppppperr loose.
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bones bushings still suck. 6 years since this topic and i still feel very strongly about this. who the fuck wants to hear their bushings “pop” every time they lean to one side.
100%. I tried a few sets back when they were relatively new and that clicking drove me nuts, plus they kept coming out of the bushing seat of my trucks. Then I noticed they has separated from the core.
Bones Swiss are good, and STF's are good. Literally everything else Skate One makes is junk and seems like it was designed by a 50 year old who hasn't seen a modern skate product since the 80's.
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lol I don’t understand why everyone on here seems to have such shitty experiences with the bones/venture combo. I’ve had ventures and bones medium ever since I started and I’ve always loved how loose my trucks felt, I also never got the saying that ventures don’t turn, my ventures are slippery as hell and I often turn too steep and end up powersliding by accident.
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Its tricky for me to figure out when it’s time to replace my bones bushings.Does it fuck up your flips?
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Fuck yea dood
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Julien Stranger rocks them in his aces. Idk how he handles that squeaking.
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Best bushings. You can run your trucks super tight as you want and they don't crack.
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everyones a buster
do you
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Don’t change your bushings unless they explode.
Stock shit goes hard.
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Doh doh super softs in a pair of thunder 149’s hi’s was the best setup I ever skated.
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The idea of using anything other than bones bushings, bearings, or wheels strikes me as insane.
It is amazing that Bones can do so well with their wheels, bearings, and bushings despite having a weak brand image. Even when they get decent riders they do nothing with them.
Is Jared the TM there? What the hell does he get paid for?
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lol I don’t understand why everyone on here seems to have such shitty experiences with the bones/venture combo. I’ve had ventures and bones medium ever since I started and I’ve always loved how loose my trucks felt, I also never got the saying that ventures don’t turn, my ventures are slippery as hell and I often turn too steep and end up powersliding by accident.
I skated Ventures and thought, "Wow these are kinda steezy like making me slide all over the place..." also felt I was superrrr low to the ground... Turns out they were the Venture Hi's... I wonder how the lows are...
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bones bushings still suck. 6 years since this topic and i still feel very strongly about this. who the fuck wants to hear their bushings “pop” every time they lean to one side.
100%. I tried a few sets back when they were relatively new and that clicking drove me nuts, plus they kept coming out of the bushing seat of my trucks. Then I noticed they has separated from the core.
Bones Swiss are good, and STF's are good. Literally everything else Skate One makes is junk and seems like it was designed by a 50 year old who hasn't seen a modern skate product since the 80's.
(https://i.imgur.com/ytXDMNw.jpg)
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I didn't read much of this thread but I remember when I was a kid, the stock bushings in most trucks would have air bubbles in them and they'd shred and break and the trucks would steer off to one side cause the bushings would hold this fucked up shape. Years later somebody told me about Bones bushings. They never break and had basically no break in period. And I've been using the same set for many many years.
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I didn't read much of this thread but I remember when I was a kid, the stock bushings in most trucks would have air bubbles in them and they'd shred and break and the trucks would steer off to one side cause the bushings would hold this fucked up shape. Years later somebody told me about Bones bushings. They never break and had basically no break in period. And I've been using the same set for many many years.
That's what's weird for me to hear - although you're right they have no break in period, it seems like a good deal of people have the same issue of them making a clicking noise (the core snapping against the edge of the kingpin hole in the hangar), and the bushings separating from the core, losing their shape, and popping out of the bushing seat in the hangar. It's happened to literally every set I had pretty quick. Sure, they didn't "split", but they were unrideable once they separated from the core and lost their shape. I just use stock Thunder bushings, and their upgrade kit costs less than a set of Bones bushings, but comes with 4 axle nuts, a full set of kingpin washers, and pivot cups. Crazy good deal.
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Don’t change your bushings unless they explode.
Stock shit goes hard.
venture's disagrees
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Don’t change your bushings unless they explode.
Stock shit goes hard.
venture's disagrees
I did have to buy some new supercush bushings a couple of weeks ago, but they might as well be stock.
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Don’t change your bushings unless they explode.
Stock shit goes hard.
venture's disagrees
which ones did you get, i usually swap my stock for the orange soft supercush bushings and they feel nice and surfy
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I use riptide bushings on my ventures, I can turn all the way to wheelbite and they return to straight right after, I love my ventures
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i love how slap doesnt really get mad that a newbie just bumped a six year old topic and everyone just continues convo like nothing happened.
I did this on skateboard city and I never lived it down. Fuck them punks tho.
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i love how slap doesnt really get mad that a newbie just bumped a six year old topic and everyone just continues convo like nothing happened.
There’s a reason slap is more popular that skate city and people not giving two shits about outrageous necro is one of them
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I think lots of posters here are so old that they get confused about whether they recognize a thread because it’s recent or if they actually just remember it from the first time around, then forget to get mad and can’t find their reading glasses to check the date anyway.
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I ride Indys so I don't need to mess with my bushings at all
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I ride Indys so I don't need to mess with my bushings at all
why would you care about bushings when you ride 40 pound shit metal?
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I ride Indys so I don't need to mess with my bushings at all
I ride Hollows and Adamantiums
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They have a wierd clicking and that droved me crazy too (like BugleBites ;)). But I'm a picky person about the sounds my board makes. I think it comes from the inner plastic cylinder in bones bushings.
And I had to retighten them everey week or so, that was a bit anoying too.
Now riding stock bushings and I'm fine.
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i fell for the hype when i was on Indys and while they have no 'break in' time, they are basically trash, but since I've been on Aces I have no need for all that bs. I'm not sure who convinced all these people that they need these.
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When I came back to skating after a 20y hiatus I copped Indys and automatically tightened them like mad because that’s what I did when I was skating in the 90s. This cut the Indy stock bushings immediately so I did some research, including SLAP (maybe even this thread) and then copped Bones HC bushings and tightened them like a madman, whereupon they immediately disintegrated. Went back to the shop and they gave me a new set for free but the skate shop guy looked at my set up and told me to ride looser, which I did. The Bones worked well for some months until they turned to mush. I got a new set and it took a few sessions to break them in. As I am now riding nuts flush I guess stock or aftermarket bushings would work as well. I have some conical blues and might put them on when the Bones get crushed.
Tl;dr I ride Bones but only because I’m a kook.
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i fell for the hype when i was on Indys and while they have no 'break in' time, they are basically trash, but since I've been on Aces I have no need for all that bs. I'm not sure who convinced all these people that they need these.
This guy knows
Bones yellows used to be the best but they crumble in a month now, Ace stock bushings are the nicest out.
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i love how slap doesnt really get mad that a newbie just bumped a six year old topic and everyone just continues convo like nothing happened.
In the gear section, someone bumped a thread from the first term of Obama and everyone just picked up and carried on
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Because it’s trendy? They really are not that great,I mean they are for about 2 weeks then the hard built in bushing cracks the rest of the bushing and they suck. Doesn’t matter how loose your trucks are or how much you weigh they always fail quickly. So either have to replace them constantly or use different ones. If your ok with adding lots of bushings to the landfills I guess they will work for you though. Just my experience.
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everyones a buster
do you
Big facts.
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i fell for the hype when i was on Indys and while they have no 'break in' time, they are basically trash, but since I've been on Aces I have no need for all that bs. I'm not sure who convinced all these people that they need these.
This guy knows
Bones yellows used to be the best but they crumble in a month now, Ace stock bushings are the nicest out.
If you ride Ventures, Venture stock bushings are the best.
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i love how slap doesnt really get mad that a newbie just bumped a six year old topic and everyone just continues convo like nothing happened.
In the gear section, someone bumped a thread from the first term of Obama and everyone just picked up and carried on
I love this place
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i fell for the hype when i was on Indys and while they have no 'break in' time, they are basically trash, but since I've been on Aces I have no need for all that bs. I'm not sure who convinced all these people that they need these.
This guy knows
Bones yellows used to be the best but they crumble in a month now, Ace stock bushings are the nicest out.
I wish I kept mine, but my friends bushings were literally cereal dust when I was installing them on my board, purple venture bushings rule
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i fell for the hype when i was on Indys and while they have no 'break in' time, they are basically trash, but since I've been on Aces I have no need for all that bs. I'm not sure who convinced all these people that they need these.
This guy knows
Bones yellows used to be the best but they crumble in a month now, Ace stock bushings are the nicest out.
I wish I kept mine, but my friends bushings were literally cereal dust when I was installing them on my board, purple venture bushings rule
Yup! You know what’s up, love the purple ones.
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I ride Indys so I don't need to mess with my bushings at all
I ride Hollows and Adamantiums
wordddd hollow shit metal
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Yo I need some andimantium trucks
Vivrabiun trucks are too light for me
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Skate tight trucks then bushings don't matter and you get more pop.
The people that have done the highest Ollies regular and switch all ride loose trucks. I disagree with your more pop theory. You ever see footage of Donger tic tacking?
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Don’t change your bushings unless they explode.
Stock shit goes hard.
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which ones did you get, i usually swap my stock for the orange soft supercush bushings and they feel nice and surfy
I got the green 94duro ones thinking they were 90s. I felt like they weren’t breaking in so I swapped out the bottom bushings. I have the harder green ones on top and the stock purple barrels on the bottom.
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first of all if you aint riding washers for bushings then idk
second of all, third of all.
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Because it’s trendy? They really are not that great,I mean they are for about 2 weeks then the hard built in bushing cracks the rest of the bushing and they suck. Doesn’t matter how loose your trucks are or how much you weigh they always fail quickly. So either have to replace them constantly or use different ones. If your ok with adding lots of bushings to the landfills I guess they will work for you though. Just my experience.
Two weeks? I ride bones and love them, mine need replacing maybe every six months, wtf are you doing
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I tried out these Bones HC bushies (medium) in an attempt to avoid catching wheelbite so often on my Thunders without having to stack risers.
Were they nice & broken in feeling from the jump? Yup.
Did they help w/ the wheelbite issue? Naw. Not one bit.
I wanted to believe though, because I thought I could fidget my way out of a feature inherent to the Thunder geometry. After the 1st set blew out, I bought another couple, still thinking I might be able to tweak the ride by messing around with washers, etc.
Still nada, and the 2nd set blew out even quicker. Plus, they’d “herniate” or blow out, and slip past the lip on the hanger’s yoke.
Somebody on the S&G board advised I go back to stock Thunder 90 du bushings, so I gave them a try & what do you fucking know?!?
I still get wheelbite, but every other one of the annoying traits that came w/ the Bones were eliminated.
Now I run my all of my aluminum stock, as it came from the manu, and have very few issues or complaints.
Also of note, unless the stack height of the Bones bottom bushing (deck side) is the same as your stock option, your gonna be messing with the trucks intended geometry. Sure, you can add washers underneath, or slice some off the top of that bottom bush (NOT the end of the bushing you should trim, BTW,) but unless you keep that geo as designed, it’s not unreasonable for your truck to perform differently (maybe a good thing, maybe not) or to suffer undue wear & strain to the pivot cup & housing, hanger pivot, kingpin, etc.
My 7.42¢ worth (after adjusting for inflation.)
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I feel like they can provide an experience where you have them tight, but they're also springy. So if you put a bunch of weight on one rail they will turn harder than they would with your feet on bolts.
I've known plenty of people who don't like them, but I think they ultimately work better.
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They feel great right out of the box. If you don’t use the washer they can crack way quicker than any stock bushing. Aside from that they’re alright.
The colors suck. Trivial but they look gross in trucks versus any stock bushing.
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I got those titanium indys, the stock bushings were heinous as usual
Don’t even care about a bandwagon but for the amount of skating I have done with those titanium’s they are grinded to shit
I mean they aren’t completely grinded to shit but I have skated fuck all this last year, I’d like to see what a young person that skated all day thinks of those titanium indys
I’ll probably cop some aces next
Deadset I had and still have these koston indys
I skated fuck out of those things, mostly ledges but they are still sick trucks now, Indy dropped the quality for sure
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Because I usually get about seventeen minutes of use out of any stock bushing before they crack harder than Sara Jessica Parker’s face.
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Because it’s trendy? They really are not that great,I mean they are for about 2 weeks then the hard built in bushing cracks the rest of the bushing and they suck. Doesn’t matter how loose your trucks are or how much you weigh they always fail quickly. So either have to replace them constantly or use different ones. If your ok with adding lots of bushings to the landfills I guess they will work for you though. Just my experience.
just flat ground mostly and I ride the nut flush with the king pin. I was was riding the white/yellow ones for a while until they kept cracking every time so I tried the blue ones and got the same result. Oh and I ride Ventures
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lol I don’t understand why everyone on here seems to have such shitty experiences with the bones/venture combo. I’ve had ventures and bones medium ever since I started and I’ve always loved how loose my trucks felt, I also never got the saying that ventures don’t turn, my ventures are slippery as hell and I often turn too steep and end up powersliding by accident.
I also rock bones bushings with Ventures. It's my favourite combo. I put the flat washer under the bottom bushing to keep the geometry as close to stock as possible and use the stock top washer for protection/stability.
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The Indy ones are perfect right when they first crack, then you have like two months til they completely fall off the truck
It is a long and brutal road to that first crack though. Stock Indy bushings are garbage out of the box lol.
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Just replaced the top bushings on a 1 year old indy aftermarket black barrel set by some old bones hard i had, nut is now flush, and they work fine
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I got those titanium indys, the stock bushings were heinous as usual
Don’t even care about a bandwagon but for the amount of skating I have done with those titanium’s they are grinded to shit
I mean they aren’t completely grinded to shit but I have skated fuck all this last year, I’d like to see what a young person that skated all day thinks of those titanium indys
I’ll probably cop some aces next
Deadset I had and still have these koston indys
I skated fuck out of those things, mostly ledges but they are still sick trucks now, Indy dropped the quality for sure
The titanium Indy’s have a titanium alloy axle instead of a solid (standard) or hollow one. That's the only difference. The "meat" of the truck that you grind on is the same as any other indy, or at least any other being produced currently.
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Because it’s trendy? They really are not that great,I mean they are for about 2 weeks then the hard built in bushing cracks the rest of the bushing and they suck. Doesn’t matter how loose your trucks are or how much you weigh they always fail quickly. So either have to replace them constantly or use different ones. If your ok with adding lots of bushings to the landfills I guess they will work for you though. Just my experience.
Ahh I ride Indy’s. Have you compared the size of bones to stock venture bushings? If the bottom bushing especially isn't the same shape, then you're messing with the geometry, which might be why they're cracking.
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I tried out these Bones HC bushies (medium) in an attempt to avoid catching wheelbite so often on my Thunders without having to stack risers.
Were they nice & broken in feeling from the jump? Yup.
Did they help w/ the wheelbite issue? Naw. Not one bit.
I wanted to believe though, because I thought I could fidget my way out of a feature inherent to the Thunder geometry. After the 1st set blew out, I bought another couple, still thinking I might be able to tweak the ride by messing around with washers, etc.
Still nada, and the 2nd set blew out even quicker. Plus, they’d “herniate” or blow out, and slip past the lip on the hanger’s yoke.
Somebody on the S&G board advised I go back to stock Thunder 90 du bushings, so I gave them a try & what do you fucking know?!?
I still get wheelbite, but every other one of the annoying traits that came w/ the Bones were eliminated.
Now I run my all of my aluminum stock, as it came from the manu, and have very few issues or complaints.
Also of note, unless the stack height of the Bones bottom bushing (deck side) is the same as your stock option, your gonna be messing with the trucks intended geometry. Sure, you can add washers underneath, or slice some off the top of that bottom bush (NOT the end of the bushing you should trim, BTW,) but unless you keep that geo as designed, it’s not unreasonable for your truck to perform differently (maybe a good thing, maybe not) or to suffer undue wear & strain to the pivot cup & housing, hanger pivot, kingpin, etc.
My 7.42¢ worth (after adjusting for inflation.)
The savings alone add up to ten times that by not buying Bones bushings, so it is well worth it and justified.
I have a shoelace full of old (and some very new) blown out Bones bushings, more so the soft and medium, but they seem to blow out a lot more quickly than any other brand of bushing on the market, as well as costing twice as much per set.
It is interesting to hear people say they are the best or whatever, but I don't have anywhere near as many dead bushings from any other company, stock or after market that have blown out like Bones bushings do.
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lol I don’t understand why everyone on here seems to have such shitty experiences with the bones/venture combo. I’ve had ventures and bones medium ever since I started and I’ve always loved how loose my trucks felt, I also never got the saying that ventures don’t turn, my ventures are slippery as hell and I often turn too steep and end up powersliding by accident.
I also rock bones bushings with Ventures. It's my favourite combo. I put the flat washer under the bottom bushing to keep the geometry as close to stock as possible and use the stock top washer for protection/stability.
Shalom brother, venture and bushings to get some flow deals 8)
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My 7.42¢ worth (after adjusting for inflation.)
The savings alone add up to ten times that by not buying Bones bushings, so it is well worth it and justified.
I have a shoelace full of old (and some very new) blown out Bones bushings, more so the soft and medium, but they seem to blow out a lot more quickly than any other brand of bushing on the market, as well as costing twice as much per set.
It is interesting to hear people say they are the best or whatever, but I don't have anywhere near as many dead bushings from any other company, stock or after market that have blown out like Bones bushings do.
How long have you been skating damn, I’ve only had to replace my bushings once because some scum SUV driver felt traffic laws did not apply to him and ran over my board destroying my bushings. So 2 pairs in 2 years, is that a lot? I’d be interested to know if bones bushings also suffer more with certain types of skating, I don’t think they would hold up too well if you skate massive gaps and obstacles for instance
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Because Bone Cold said so!
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I put Bones in my Indys after the stock orange bushings wore out. I even replaced the pivot cup with something I found on amazon since the hanger had a lot more life ahead of it.
My new Frankenstein'd Indys are great, no problems with the bones bushing and in a way, it reduced the weight and bulk that came with the independent stock bushing set up. It's a lower profile and I immediately felt a difference.
The goal is to grind to through to the Axle with this pair.
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I used to use bones medium until I tried bones soft, now I’m only using bones soft in my thunders since I’m only 150lbs. Bones soft med or hard depends on your body weight tbh.
If u wanna get rid of the clicking sound with bones in thunder/venture, you have to use 1 stock washer on the bottom and a bones washer on top - this corrects geometry of the truck and helps break in bushings. After they’re broken in nice, u can go back to using stock washers instead of 1 stock washer and 1 bones washer. Another tip is with bones, you can use the smaller top stock washer as a bottom washer since bones bushings fit perfectly in them - and it makes it look more aesthetically pleasing.
I don’t like the stock bushings because my trucks never return to center, and I feel I can Ollie higher with bones since they’re more springy.
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I used to use bones medium until I tried bones soft, now I’m only using bones soft in my thunders since I’m only 150lbs. Bones soft med or hard depends on your body weight tbh.
If u wanna get rid of the clicking sound with bones in thunder/venture, you have to use 1 stock washer on the bottom and a bones washer on top - this corrects geometry of the truck and helps break in bushings. After they’re broken in nice, u can go back to using stock washers instead of 1 stock washer and 1 bones washer. Another tip is with bones, you can use the smaller top stock washer as a bottom washer since bones bushings fit perfectly in them - and it makes it look more aesthetically pleasing.
I don’t like the stock bushings because my trucks never return to center, and I feel I can Ollie higher with bones since they’re more springy.
I see this mentioned a lot, do bushings really give you a higher Ollie? Seems like a mental thing, you’re more comfortable riding certain brands thus you’re more likely to Ollie with good form and therefore go higher. I reckon trucks affect your Ollies more since some trucks brands are heavier than others…
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My 7.42¢ worth (after adjusting for inflation.)
The savings alone add up to ten times that by not buying Bones bushings, so it is well worth it and justified.
I have a shoelace full of old (and some very new) blown out Bones bushings, more so the soft and medium, but they seem to blow out a lot more quickly than any other brand of bushing on the market, as well as costing twice as much per set.
It is interesting to hear people say they are the best or whatever, but I don't have anywhere near as many dead bushings from any other company, stock or after market that have blown out like Bones bushings do.
How long have you been skating damn, I’ve only had to replace my bushings once because some scum SUV driver felt traffic laws did not apply to him and ran over my board destroying my bushings. So 2 pairs in 2 years, is that a lot? I’d be interested to know if bones bushings also suffer more with certain types of skating, I don’t think they would hold up too well if you skate massive gaps and obstacles for instance
Well I have been skating a long, long time, but I have never used Bones bushings myself except to see how a board feels with them or skate someone else's board with them on.
I do work in a skate shop environment and have done for a long time too, so I get a lot of the broken and wrecked parts, so one of the things when people come in and ask for Bones bushings is show them the shoelace of all the broken ones and if they are not put off, then go ahead and buy them, otherwise I would politely recommend a number of others to them, which do last and don't come apart.
The weird thing is some people never blow them out, but others go through them very quickly, so I don't know that there is any particular thing that causes it so much as it is how much people tighten them down, especially the soft and medium duro bushings.
The hards soften up to be more loose than my other brand medium bushings, which is also a funny thing for people who want tight trucks, but again it is more down to how tight they actually are, compared to just having trucks that resist a little more with harder bushings.
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@Mbrimson88 you nailed it: If you tighten them too much they will break immediately. If you ride them flush they will last quite a few months. The hard ones are hard for two or three sessions and then become gradually softer. The last time I changed mine because they had crushed they had been very soft in the end so when I put the new ones on I had to ride them hella loose to have the same feeling, but could gradually tighten them down as they softened and I am riding them flush again now.
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@Mbrimson88 you nailed it: If you tighten them too much they will break immediately. If you ride them flush they will last quite a few months. The hard ones are hard for two or three sessions and then become gradually softer. The last time I changed mine because they had crushed they had been very soft in the end so when I put the new ones on I had to ride them hella loose to have the same feeling, but could gradually tighten them down as they softened and I am riding them flush again now.
Ye I think the problem isn’t that bones are bad bushings, the problem is people who don’t/can’t skate loose trucks buy them and expect them to perform like more stable bushings and tighten them fuckers so tight they pop after a session or two…
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are they really better than stock bushings? I skate thunders and use the stock thunder bushings but it seems like everyone puts bones bushings in their trucks. whats up with this? wouldn't the stock bushings be better since they are technically designed for the truck they are in?
Use the bottom washers with Thunders. I ride Indy now, but I blew out a pair of Bones in no time with no bottom washer on Thunder trucks. I tried another pair on the same trucks, this time with the bottom washers, and they outlasted the trucks and are now in my Indys.
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hard bones bushings with loosely tightened trucks
(http://www.thecoli.com/media/melo.3187/full?d=1418106344)
I rode Bones medium until I got Riptide pivot cups--hard bones with soft pivot cups feel wonderful, and since I'm 170lbs they're pretty loose. Riptides are $18 and after I got one pair I immediately bought them for my other setups. Their bushings are probably great, too, but it's too damn confusing and pricey to figure out what to pick from their website, plus I'm happy with my hard Bones and my 92A conical Indy bushing (which also work great in Thunders).
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What kind of bushings does Daewon Song use? Those are my favorite.
I'm pretty sure he just stuffs old chewing gum around his kingpin.
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I used to use bones medium until I tried bones soft, now I’m only using bones soft in my thunders since I’m only 150lbs. Bones soft med or hard depends on your body weight tbh.
If u wanna get rid of the clicking sound with bones in thunder/venture, you have to use 1 stock washer on the bottom and a bones washer on top - this corrects geometry of the truck and helps break in bushings. After they’re broken in nice, u can go back to using stock washers instead of 1 stock washer and 1 bones washer. Another tip is with bones, you can use the smaller top stock washer as a bottom washer since bones bushings fit perfectly in them - and it makes it look more aesthetically pleasing.
I don’t like the stock bushings because my trucks never return to center, and I feel I can Ollie higher with bones since they’re more springy.
I see this mentioned a lot, do bushings really give you a higher Ollie? Seems like a mental thing, you’re more comfortable riding certain brands thus you’re more likely to Ollie with good form and therefore go higher. I reckon trucks affect your Ollies more since some trucks brands are heavier than others…
Certain bushings giving you a “higher” ollie is probably a mental thing, but i personally feel like bones are more springy than stock bushings. I experiment sometimes by bringing an extra set of stock bushings to the spot and swapping back and forth between stock and bones, and I think I skate more comfortably with bones ultimately giving me a more proper ollie. At the end of the day, bones soft bushings hit the spot - at least for me.
Also, I think heavier trucks, aka trucks with cast base plates, give me a higher ollie bc I think the board sticks to your feet better - especially when skating transition.
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are they really better than stock bushings? I skate thunders and use the stock thunder bushings but it seems like everyone puts bones bushings in their trucks. whats up with this? wouldn't the stock bushings be better since they are technically designed for the truck they are in?
because they want all trucks to turn like thunders , dudes just buy thunders
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the best bushings are the ones that come with the trucks because they are the only ones designed specifically for that truck. there is a reason why venture's bushings differ from indy and thunder.
I back this with all trucks but Venture purple are just too much, I like to put a blue doh doh in the bottom and a yellow doh doh in the top get the Ace loose with the Venture turn
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What kind of bushings does Daewon Song use? Those are my favorite.
yeah they are called washers super thin super hard LULZ