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General Discussion => WHATEVER => Topic started by: 360 frip on August 08, 2015, 03:46:54 PM
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I used to really not mind flying at all. The first flight I went on was to New York and we got caught in really severe storms, very bad turbulence and had to land at Newark as JFK was impossible. It didn't phase me at all at the time.
About four years ago I was on a domestic flight in Vietnam that went into a full nosedive. All arms in the air and everyone screaming. Since then, I'm getting worse and worse flight anxiety. I've been taking valium and pounding some drinks before flights but it seems to be getting more uncontrollable.
Anyone else get this? Any way to get over it? I know its irrational but don't want to get to the point where I can't even get on a plane...
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Holy shit that nose dive sounds horrendous.
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Become a Pilot
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I've had two near death experiences on planes. Lightning strike on a prop plane and engine fire on a jet. For some reason, I'm still ok. But many of my friends that hate flying visit Thailand and buy shit loads of Xanax and Valium etc for such purposes. Works for them.
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i hate flying and xanax work for me. they take the edge off and i just sleep.
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When I was little I'd think about how there are like 30 sports teams in every professional league who fly a shit load every year and none of them have ever died in a crash.
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When I was little I'd think about how there are like 30 sports teams in every professional league who fly a shit load every year and none of them have ever died in a crash.
Ever seen the movie "Alive" my friend?
But yeah, when I go on planes I usually just think about people that travel every day for business and shit
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smoke a blunt, make love to a sweet girl, take a beer and stop flying !!!
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When I was little I'd think about how there are like 30 sports teams in every professional league who fly a shit load every year and none of them have ever died in a crash.
Busby Babes?
I know basically it isn't worth stressing about but if I could have parachuted out of my last flight at 30,000 feet into the sea I would have. I'm starting to worry I'll try and open a door or something. Maybe more Valium is the way to go? It's the pre-death minute I can't handle. Doesn't help that plane crashes seem to be in the news 24/7. I know it's madness.
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I developed flying anxiety after a flight to Japan where the plane hit an air pocket and it felt like we were free falling for several seconds. I looked around and people had looks of terror on their faces. I don't know if there's any way of dealing with it once you've developed it. You can only cope as best you can. I try to sleep most of the time.
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When I was little I'd think about how there are like 30 sports teams in every professional league who fly a shit load every year and none of them have ever died in a crash.
Busby Babes?
I know basically it isn't worth stressing about but if I could have parachuted out of my last flight at 30,000 feet into the sea I would have. I'm starting to worry I'll try and open a door or something. Maybe more Valium is the way to go? It's the pre-death minute I can't handle. Doesn't help that plane crashes seem to be in the news 24/7. I know it's madness.
I get you like you wouldn't believe
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Whenever I fly I just try to remind myself that the worst case scenario is nothing happens and we land safely on the ground and I have to continue living my life. Power of positive thinking.
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smoke weed bro. get high to fly.
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When I was little I'd think about how there are like 30 sports teams in every professional league who fly a shit load every year and none of them have ever died in a crash.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_involving_sports_teams
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I don't get how you can get a fear from flying but not have one for driving. Driving is so much more fucked. At least in the air it's mainly all trained professionals while any idiot can get a license to drive a car.
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I don't get how you can get a fear from flying but not have one for driving. Driving is so much more fucked. At least in the air it's mainly all trained professionals while any idiot can get a license to drive a car.
For me it's that I have no control of the situation I'm in. My life is in the hands of someone else and it freaks me out.
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i've burnt myself a bunch of times cooking bacon. i know this fear.
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weed gives me really bad anxiety, haven't touched the stuff in years
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What you're all describing is not the fear of flying, but the fear of death. It's very normal to be anxious 12000 feet up when the plane is shaking. Aircrafts today fly themselves ftmp, have backup engines and reinforcement beyond comprehension. Air Canada has a perfect track record, millions of flights every year. Take your corolla to the gas station chances are you'll see an accident or near collision. I'm not calling you guys pussies or anything, but wrap your head around the actual numbers. Everyone has been in a car accident, you know NOONE that had a plane accident
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What you're all describing is not the fear of flying, but the fear of death. It's very normal to be anxious 12000 feet up when the plane is shaking. Aircrafts today fly themselves ftmp, have backup engines and reinforcement beyond comprehension. Air Canada has a perfect track record, millions of flights every year. Take your corolla to the gas station chances are you'll see an accident or near collision. I'm not calling you guys pussies or anything, but wrap your head around the actual numbers. Everyone has been in a car accident, you know NOONE that had a plane accident
Never thought I'd say this, but Tracer you made sense
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I have a fear of frying as well. This usually limits my options to baking, broiling or roasting. It's definitely a no go if I want to cook in the nude.
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What you're all describing is not the fear of flying, but the fear of death. It's very normal to be anxious 12000 feet up when the plane is shaking. Aircrafts today fly themselves ftmp, have backup engines and reinforcement beyond comprehension. Air Canada has a perfect track record, millions of flights every year. Take your corolla to the gas station chances are you'll see an accident or near collision. I'm not calling you guys pussies or anything, but wrap your head around the actual numbers. Everyone has been in a car accident, you know NOONE that had a plane accident
The death part isn't the scary thing it is the 20/30 seconds of terror and people losing their shit before impact that freaks me out. The death part would probably/hopefully be fairly instantaneous.I know statistically flying is way safer than driving but this isn't really something you can rationalise. Airplane accidents are also permanently in the news, car accidents rarely are. Finally, I don't drive and mainly use ferries,trains and trams.
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What you're all describing is not the fear of flying, but the fear of death. It's very normal to be anxious 12000 feet up when the plane is shaking. Aircrafts today fly themselves ftmp, have backup engines and reinforcement beyond comprehension. Air Canada has a perfect track record, millions of flights every year. Take your corolla to the gas station chances are you'll see an accident or near collision. I'm not calling you guys pussies or anything, but wrap your head around the actual numbers. Everyone has been in a car accident, you know NOONE that had a plane accident
The death part isn't the scary thing it is the 20/30 seconds of terror and people losing their shit before impact that freaks me out. The death part would probably/hopefully be fairly instantaneous.I know statistically flying is way safer than driving but this isn't really something you can rationalise. Airplane accidents are also permanently in the news, car accidents rarely are. Finally, I don't drive and mainly use ferries,trains and trams.
when it's going down just think about never having to wipe your ass again. or pay bills. or impress anyone. or listen to someone. or do something you don't want to. or get the flu. or go to the dentist. or get cancer. or have to go to peoples funerals . or go to work. or get annoyed, mad, and sad. or go bald. or get too old to skate. or get dentures. or have a stroke. or do laundry. or cook . or puke . or lose your eyesight. or be bored ever again
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or fly again
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you just need to monitor your heat. Frying isnt so bad.
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weed gives me really bad anxiety, haven't touched the stuff in years
I sometimes like when I get weed that bugs me out a little. Sitting around the house by myself freaking out for an hour or two is fun.
I know flying is statistically safe. Everyone knows that. Even the people who get on planes that crash. Statistically, their plane wasn't going to crash. Then it crashed.
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weed gives me really bad anxiety, haven't touched the stuff in years
I sometimes like when I get weed that bugs me out a little. Sitting around the house by myself freaking out for an hour or two is fun.
I know flying is statistically safe. Everyone knows that. Even the people who get on planes that crash. Statistically, their plane wasn't going to crash. Then it crashed.
The safety advice freaks me out too. The brace positions and landing in water advice. I mean really, we'll be in pieces on impact. It's almost like they're fucking with you. Yeah, we'll land in the sea and just slide down these fun inflatable slides then into our rafts. Surprised they don't have Santa delivering shit to us too.
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'In the unlikely event...'
George Carlin - Flying [Live from NYC '92] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46fOtLfYC4Q#)
Thanks, I love Carlin and today has been really shitty.
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My thought process is usually that I trust the plane more than I trust myself in all sorts of situations....I'm pretty good at giving up control....
Recently though I had a bad landing and it was pretty lightweight but in my mind...it's totally rational to get freaked out.....
The main thing that was running through my mind was that you're stuck with all these people....none of which can help...and they are all acting like a bunch of tards.....it's like a super bad customer service experience....like Home Depot but you die....
Way rather drown alone.....
No joke one of my buddies was in a plane crash....the plane crashed on the roadway near the airport and people just came running and hauled the passengers out....my friend was right behind the two pilots who burned and died.....his back was broken...couldn't move and gave up...but someone pulled him out.....
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I don't have an issue flying but I do understand people who do. That nose dive situation seems fucked but for just regular turbulence (or what may seem like bad turbulence), I usually keep my eye out for the flight attendants. 9.9 out of 10 times they're gonna be chillin'. If the flight attendants, who live their life flying to and from places several times a day are acting fine, I rest assured everything is normal.
Of course this only works up until the point where I see one looking nervous and I found myself pissing my pants two hours from my destination.
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my grampa always called Friday 'chinese air force day'
u know cuz they say 'flyday'
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The good airlines make it easy, free drinks the whole way. Popout tablets for movies
I'm way more afraid of sitting beside another obese American, or having crying children in the isle.
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Try Xanax. I developed a bit of anxiety for flying a few years ago and being 6'4 does not help. I was offered Xanax from a friend and I split the bar into 4 pieces, one for each round of flying. Have a couple beers in the airport, order a couple on the plane and good luck giving a fuck about crashing and dying. Everything is very peaceful. This is also why I've never tried taking xanax other than for flying...shit is way too awesome.
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The good airlines make it easy, free drinks the whole way. Popout tablets for movies
I'm way more afraid of sitting beside another obese American, or having crying children in the isle.
man i flew JetBlue and them dudes wanted 9 dollars for a can of bud light. i one time was on a plane with a fat preacher who had his collar and black shirt on the whole flight. i should've asked him where heaven was up in the clouds we're flying through.
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The good airlines make it easy, free drinks the whole way. Popout tablets for movies
I'm way more afraid of sitting beside another obese American, or having crying children in the isle.
Air India had a projector screen for the movies that had a rip in it (the pull down shit), the toilet sink had a patched up hole in it and they gave you two beers from the off (without a request). I could never get on that bucket again!
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Driving on a highway is much more frightening. In the last year I know of someone who had a heart attack (died) and crashed into several vehicles and another story of a girl getting cut off on a highway, flipping over the median and pretty much scalping herself (survived). The second story I think of pretty often and have to change lanes sometimes because I think a car might randomly fly over the median. Also, every single day I pass the below sign that reminds me I could be added to the yearly death tally.
(http://llnw.wbez.org/styles/original_image/llo/insert-images/FOR%20WEB%20Fatality%20Signs%20from%20IDOT%20bureau%20of%20safety%20engineering.jpg)
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I'm flying for my second time ever and first time by myself next week. Anxiety is already kind of high because of not being totally familiar with how an airport works, but I'm also taking the cheapest shittiest flight I could find to save money, so I don't necessarily feel entitled to the assurance of my safety. I hope US Airways feels differently.
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Driving on a highway is much more frightening. In the last year I know of someone who had a heart attack (died) and crashed into several vehicles and another story of a girl getting cut off on a highway, flipping over the median and pretty much scalping herself (survived). The second story I think of pretty often and have to change lanes sometimes because I think a car might randomly fly over the median. Also, every single day I pass the below sign that reminds me I could be added to the yearly death tally.
(http://llnw.wbez.org/styles/original_image/llo/insert-images/FOR%20WEB%20Fatality%20Signs%20from%20IDOT%20bureau%20of%20safety%20engineering.jpg)
Yeah, I don't drive. I don't have a license and never really care to learn. I don't need a car.
I know what you're saying but it is similar to being scared of snakes, spiders or heights (I get paralysed by heights too).
I'm not sure why it has become so much worse but the nosedive didn't help. Try it and see. It was instant chaos, plummeting toward the ground. Like a roller coaster 30,000 feet in the air. There is no brace position, you're fucked.
I get the rational of your argument, it is becoming more of a phobia.
Did anyone see the supposed footage of the passengers when that pilot dived into a mountain recently?
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As you get older...you get weirder....sure you might get better at hiding it but.....