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Title: Heath is Birdhouse's Mystery Guest
Post by: Spitfire4life on September 02, 2015, 06:44:20 PM
Game over
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Post by: Dishonest John on September 02, 2015, 06:46:54 PM
King of the Road 2015: Meet the Mystery Guests (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpTe5KcrfJk#)
Holy shit!!!
Heath, Forrest and Casanova!
Did Slap picked them?
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Post by: Righteous Victim on September 02, 2015, 06:54:56 PM
What the fuck, I thought it was a joke. Amazing.
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Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on September 02, 2015, 06:56:11 PM
Word around town...
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Post by: Cinco on September 02, 2015, 06:57:35 PM
Fuck, this should be good.
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Post by: Green Bastard on September 02, 2015, 07:02:07 PM
This is a good set of mystery guest
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Post by: perverted super otaku! on September 02, 2015, 07:02:52 PM
 :o
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Post by: Righteous Victim on September 02, 2015, 07:12:45 PM
Word around town...
?
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Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on September 02, 2015, 07:16:32 PM
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Magnums what I fit...
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Post by: heckler on September 02, 2015, 07:16:54 PM
After hearing next to nothing about this year's KOTR, this is awesome news.
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Post by: cuntzilla on September 02, 2015, 07:20:47 PM
j.cas on too many drugs?
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Post by: augustmoon on September 02, 2015, 07:21:52 PM
jereme roger's haircut SOTY confirmed?
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Post by: Monkey_Mcpott on September 02, 2015, 07:30:31 PM
Probably the best Mystery guest lineup yet.

Jereme is the worst.
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Post by: Spicasaurus on September 02, 2015, 07:30:44 PM
man talk about choosing three of the weirdest most enigmatic people in skateboarding, I guess maybe that was the point.  Also does Heath not age? dude's a fuckin vampire
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Post by: Julz on September 02, 2015, 07:32:24 PM
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Magnums what I fit...

Word around town...
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Post by: pabloalvarado on September 02, 2015, 07:40:50 PM
King of the Road 2015: Meet the Mystery Guests (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpTe5KcrfJk#)
Holy shit!!!
Heath, Forrest and Casanova!
Did Slap picked them?

That video was super awkward. Three introvert individuals for sure.

J-Cassanova was talkin just to impress that girls ? Hes really like that all the time ? Also...the girls are going to be on the van ? I remember KOTR 04 with the naked back-tail and the fact he recall he was 17 and naked in front of grown-ups puts everything on perspective. I laugh really hard on that.

I meet Heat four years ago and he was wearing the same coat he was wearing here. Now it looks dirty and ripped but somehow made the character a lot more cool. I like how we casual mention The End. One of my favorites ever good to see him all over the place even if hes "retired".

Forrest is a weirdo but I like him. Hes really spicy and can bring a lot to the table. I laugh when he just start mention Birdhouse riders =P
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Post by: Donkey Punch on September 02, 2015, 08:12:33 PM
Get a shit hair cut (50 Points): Jereme Rogers
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Post by: Carrolls Chesthairs on September 02, 2015, 08:31:29 PM
pump the brakes..

Is heath referencing when he was sponsored by emerica or took on the role as TM?
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Post by: deluxxxe on September 02, 2015, 08:33:50 PM
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King of the Road 2015: Meet the Mystery Guests (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpTe5KcrfJk#)
Holy shit!!!
Heath, Forrest and Casanova!
Did Slap picked them?
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That video was super awkward. Three introvert individuals for sure.

J-Cassanova was talkin just to impress that girls ? Hes really like that all the time ? Also...the girls are going to be on the van ? I remember KOTR 04 with the naked back-tail and the fact he recall he was 17 and naked in front of grown-ups puts everything on perspective. I laugh really hard on that.

I meet Heat four years ago and he was wearing the same coat he was wearing here. Now it looks dirty and ripped but somehow made the character a lot more cool. I like how we casual mention The End. One of my favorites ever good to see him all over the place even if hes "retired".

Forrest is a weirdo but I like him. Hes really spicy and can bring a lot to the table. I laugh when he just start mention Birdhouse riders =P


Wikipedia says jeremes birthday is January 13, 1985, so he would've been 18 for most of 2003
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Post by: pabloalvarado on September 02, 2015, 08:50:53 PM
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King of the Road 2015: Meet the Mystery Guests (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpTe5KcrfJk#)
Holy shit!!!
Heath, Forrest and Casanova!
Did Slap picked them?
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That video was super awkward. Three introvert individuals for sure.

J-Cassanova was talkin just to impress that girls ? Hes really like that all the time ? Also...the girls are going to be on the van ? I remember KOTR 04 with the naked back-tail and the fact he recall he was 17 and naked in front of grown-ups puts everything on perspective. I laugh really hard on that.

I meet Heat four years ago and he was wearing the same coat he was wearing here. Now it looks dirty and ripped but somehow made the character a lot more cool. I like how we casual mention The End. One of my favorites ever good to see him all over the place even if hes "retired".

Forrest is a weirdo but I like him. Hes really spicy and can bring a lot to the table. I laugh when he just start mention Birdhouse riders =P
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Wikipedia says jeremes birthday is January 13, 1985, so he would've been 18 for most of 2003

So he lied on Thrasher. He doesnt deserve the hoodie.

(http://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Junk_Drawer/2015/09/JeremyRogers.jpg)

Also...Heath is the true.

Emerica Stay Gold B-Side: Heath Kirchart (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPJN87hjGPM#)
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Post by: MaryhillVibe on September 02, 2015, 09:08:00 PM
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King of the Road 2015: Meet the Mystery Guests (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpTe5KcrfJk#)
Holy shit!!!
Heath, Forrest and Casanova!
Did Slap picked them?
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That video was super awkward. Three introvert individuals for sure.

J-Cassanova was talkin just to impress that girls ? Hes really like that all the time ? Also...the girls are going to be on the van ? I remember KOTR 04 with the naked back-tail and the fact he recall he was 17 and naked in front of grown-ups puts everything on perspective. I laugh really hard on that.

I meet Heat four years ago and he was wearing the same coat he was wearing here. Now it looks dirty and ripped but somehow made the character a lot more cool. I like how we casual mention The End. One of my favorites ever good to see him all over the place even if hes "retired".

Forrest is a weirdo but I like him. Hes really spicy and can bring a lot to the table. I laugh when he just start mention Birdhouse riders =P
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Wikipedia says jeremes birthday is January 13, 1985, so he would've been 18 for most of 2003
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So he lied on Thrasher. He doesnt deserve the hoodie.

(http://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Junk_Drawer/2015/09/JeremyRogers.jpg)

Also...Heath is the true.

Emerica Stay Gold B-Side: Heath Kirchart (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPJN87hjGPM#)

Somehow, and I have no fucking idea why, I had never watched that before. You sir, just made my whole friggin year.
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Post by: pabloalvarado on September 02, 2015, 09:12:16 PM
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King of the Road 2015: Meet the Mystery Guests (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpTe5KcrfJk#)
Holy shit!!!
Heath, Forrest and Casanova!
Did Slap picked them?
[close]

That video was super awkward. Three introvert individuals for sure.

J-Cassanova was talkin just to impress that girls ? Hes really like that all the time ? Also...the girls are going to be on the van ? I remember KOTR 04 with the naked back-tail and the fact he recall he was 17 and naked in front of grown-ups puts everything on perspective. I laugh really hard on that.

I meet Heat four years ago and he was wearing the same coat he was wearing here. Now it looks dirty and ripped but somehow made the character a lot more cool. I like how we casual mention The End. One of my favorites ever good to see him all over the place even if hes "retired".

Forrest is a weirdo but I like him. Hes really spicy and can bring a lot to the table. I laugh when he just start mention Birdhouse riders =P
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Wikipedia says jeremes birthday is January 13, 1985, so he would've been 18 for most of 2003
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So he lied on Thrasher. He doesnt deserve the hoodie.

(http://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Junk_Drawer/2015/09/JeremyRogers.jpg)

Also...Heath is the true.

Emerica Stay Gold B-Side: Heath Kirchart (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPJN87hjGPM#)
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Somehow, and I have no fucking idea why, I had never watched that before. You sir, just made my whole friggin year.

Mucho gusto amigo !
Title: Re: Heath is Birdhouse's Mystery Guest
Post by: pinch a loaf on September 02, 2015, 09:19:28 PM
pump the brakes..

Is heath referencing when he was sponsored by emerica or took on the role as TM?

Im sure he was emailing clint about shoes when he was TM. Heath of emerica TM?
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Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on September 02, 2015, 09:34:20 PM
(http://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Junk_Drawer/2015/09/JeremyRogers.jpg)

Jereme on 2005 emo confirmed (also possibly crabcore)
of hip hop?
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Post by: jimi420 on September 02, 2015, 09:42:57 PM
Jereme sounds like Ryan from The Office when he went hipster.
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Post by: Fongstarr. on September 02, 2015, 09:45:00 PM
I thought this was a rad lineup:

King Of The Road 2012: Meet the Mystery Guests (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHbikBK1UbA#)
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Post by: augustmoon on September 02, 2015, 09:49:15 PM
Jereme on gender dysmorphia confirmed?
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Post by: nino brown on September 02, 2015, 09:57:02 PM
birdhouse will never be appealing
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Post by: French manicure on September 02, 2015, 10:03:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/yMH8ncU.png)
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Post by: pabloalvarado on September 02, 2015, 10:07:06 PM
birdhouse will never be appealing

I disagree.

Like many others from here I came from the THPS era. Birdhouse was everything back then. Good to see they are relevant again. The End is timeless. McCrank, Andrew, Klein & Heath, Rileys dad. Classic !

Birdhouse-The End (full video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxZClFMAKhs#)
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Post by: nino brown on September 02, 2015, 10:14:30 PM
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I disagree.

Like many others from here I came from the THPS era. Birdhouse was everything back then. Good to see they are relevant again. The End is timeless. McCrank, Andrew, Klein & Heath, Rileys dad. Classic !

Birdhouse-The End (full video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxZClFMAKhs#)
im from same era, i agree the end is one of my favs also. but having clint walker and david loy hurts them.
brand has 0 image
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Post by: Rafiki on September 02, 2015, 10:15:57 PM
So hyped
Jereme is definitely gay or way too feminine.
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Post by: tobey on September 02, 2015, 10:16:24 PM
Love it how Jereme try to act all intelligent, dude is the definition of a mentally challenged person
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Post by: pabloalvarado on September 02, 2015, 10:44:15 PM
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I disagree.

Like many others from here I came from the THPS era. Birdhouse was everything back then. Good to see they are relevant again. The End is timeless. McCrank, Andrew, Klein & Heath, Rileys dad. Classic !

Birdhouse-The End (full video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxZClFMAKhs#)
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im from same era, i agree the end is one of my favs also. but having clint walker and david loy hurts them.
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I have to agree they dont have image but ten years ago the brand was really and truly dead. Now they are somehow doing noise. Props for that.

Birdhouse favorite graphics

(http://www.reocities.com/the311fanmatt/reynoldsbrd.gif)

(http://www.artofskateboarding.com/Pg/Deck_Pics/bh_THawk_Falcon1.jpg)
Title: Re: Heath is Birdhouse's Mystery Guest
Post by: DannyDee on September 02, 2015, 11:08:35 PM
Heath and Forrest are sick while also fitting with the teams. Forrest is cool with alot of the Toy guys through Leabres and Heath was a legend for Birdhouse. Rodgers with Chocolate is just weird because I'd assume Rick is with them and wasn't he booted or left depending on who you listen to (Jereme claims he left because he was getting ripped on royalties or was booted because he asked for invoices). Really hope some OG's are on the tour to clown him if true (If say Rick, Carroll and Smyth are tagging along). Doubt Thasher would do this though if their was still legit bad blood between the Crailtap and J Cassanova.   
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Post by: Doom patrol on September 03, 2015, 12:19:50 AM
Every time I see jereme being interviewed I feel like his entire persona must be an elaborate performance art piece, like when joaquin phoenix did that im still here thing.
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Post by: ChronicBluntSlider on September 03, 2015, 12:42:37 AM
That still of the video looks like a line-up of mental patients. Rogers has grown on me over the years. He seems a lot more self-aware of his bizarreness than in his hip hop daze.
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Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on September 03, 2015, 12:49:55 AM
He seems a lot more self-aware of his bizarreness than in his hip hop daze.

He does ???
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Post by: ChronicBluntSlider on September 03, 2015, 01:20:28 AM
I think he knows people think he's a weirdo for his guru schtick and has fun playing it up.
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Post by: Nanda Zinger on September 03, 2015, 01:33:55 AM
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birdhouse will never be appealing
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I disagree.


Like many others from here I came from the THPS era. Birdhouse was everything back then. Good to see they are relevant again. The End is timeless. McCrank, Andrew, Klein & Heath, Rileys dad. Classic !

Birdhouse-The End (full video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxZClFMAKhs#)
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im from same era, i agree the end is one of my favs also. but having clint walker and david loy hurts them.
brand has 0 image
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I have to agree they dont have image but ten years ago the brand was really and truly dead. Now they are somehow doing noise. Props for that.

Birdhouse favorite graphics

(http://www.reocities.com/the311fanmatt/reynoldsbrd.gif)

(http://www.artofskateboarding.com/Pg/Deck_Pics/bh_THawk_Falcon1.jpg)
The Reynolds Smoking Monkey mini was a dream come true for a small 10 year old like I was at the time. Most minis on the market at the time just weren't that cool. Element had those boring looking "Twigs", so when Birdhouse released a mini with hype graphics for Andrew Reynolds shit was gold to me. And randomly, my older brother got the hawk board you posted the same day I got the monkey board.
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Post by: the goat cheese of Mendes on September 03, 2015, 01:45:37 AM
hopefully, new Heath footage just after those in stay flared! YES!

On a side-note, the still of the video on Jereme's face…

(http://i.imgur.com/MLR8RJn.png?1)
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Post by: 4wheels on September 03, 2015, 01:48:41 AM
shoutout to forrest, he will eat his own shit!!
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Post by: goldenbullcow on September 03, 2015, 06:15:42 AM
So let me get this straight... Mystery and Birdhouse are collaborating on a Heath board?  Just when you think things can't get any stranger....
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Post by: Big Baby Jesus on September 03, 2015, 06:31:45 AM
I've had a boner for over four hours after reading this. Should I go to the ER?
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Post by: JB on September 03, 2015, 06:32:45 AM
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birdhouse will never be appealing
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I disagree.

Like many others from here I came from the THPS era. Birdhouse was everything back then. Good to see they are relevant again. The End is timeless. McCrank, Andrew, Klein & Heath, Rileys dad. Classic !

Birdhouse-The End (full video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxZClFMAKhs#)
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im from same era, i agree the end is one of my favs also. but having clint walker and david loy hurts them.
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the last birdhouse board i had had jeremy kleins name on it. i think theyve got the best team theyve had since the end era, but they just arent cool like they used to be.

side story, my girl was in the bathroom last week and asked me to get her a tampon. i brought it to her and opened it with my mouth just like how kobe thai (probably spelled wrong) does the candy bar when she feeds it to jeremy in the hot tub. i keep it sexy.  ;)
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Post by: Coconut Lotion on September 03, 2015, 01:55:30 PM
Heath makes me want to be more frugal
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Post by: Dark Knight on September 03, 2015, 01:57:32 PM
Isn't the chick with Jereme the one that put him on blast for beating her up a while back?  Smh
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Post by: JamesFardy on September 03, 2015, 02:11:23 PM
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King of the Road 2015: Meet the Mystery Guests (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpTe5KcrfJk#)
Holy shit!!!
Heath, Forrest and Casanova!
Did Slap picked them?
[close]

That video was super awkward. Three introvert individuals for sure.

J-Cassanova was talkin just to impress that girls ? Hes really like that all the time ? Also...the girls are going to be on the van ? I remember KOTR 04 with the naked back-tail and the fact he recall he was 17 and naked in front of grown-ups puts everything on perspective. I laugh really hard on that.

I meet Heat four years ago and he was wearing the same coat he was wearing here. Now it looks dirty and ripped but somehow made the character a lot more cool. I like how we casual mention The End. One of my favorites ever good to see him all over the place even if hes "retired".

Forrest is a weirdo but I like him. Hes really spicy and can bring a lot to the table. I laugh when he just start mention Birdhouse riders =P


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Post by: GAY on September 03, 2015, 02:12:32 PM
Forrest is looking like Dante the super-scrub.
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Post by: Shredface on September 03, 2015, 02:17:51 PM
Oh shit!! 3 feet high and rising reference! I salute you
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Post by: GAY on September 03, 2015, 02:26:01 PM
Oh shit!! 3 feet high and rising reference! I salute you

 ;)
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Post by: shark tits on September 03, 2015, 02:32:31 PM
Heath makes me want to be more frugal
the guy who lights expensive cigars w/ $100 bills while his own theme music plays in the background? 'millionaires, klein and heath'.......
i don't care about KOTR, wyoming and john doe zines' King of the Chode seems way more interesting but those are some great guests. i mean, some really great guests. i know pretty ricky O was guest one year but i think he was hurt or something.
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Post by: wallieD on September 03, 2015, 02:56:26 PM
Isn't the chick with Jereme the one that put him on blast for beating her up a while back?  Smh
hell no that girl was actually hot. it looks like he can't afford to pay for beards of that quality anymore
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Post by: sms_b on September 03, 2015, 03:38:50 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/66/c0/a1/66c0a1c5eed832ee7b8538fdf0bc3208.jpg)
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Post by: Dark Knight on September 03, 2015, 03:40:31 PM
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hell no that girl was actually hot. it looks like he can't afford to pay for beards of that quality anymore

The one to the right sure does resemble her, but it's been so long since I've seen that shit.
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Post by: spungo on September 03, 2015, 04:20:06 PM
You're right PabloAlvardo,

Heath is the true.
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Post by: OldmanEpic on September 03, 2015, 04:43:59 PM
Jeremy rogers is awesome!

I totally believe forrest when he says he'll eat his own shit. Actually it looks like he has done it before😂😂

Stoked for some heath footy
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Post by: wallieD on September 03, 2015, 05:03:41 PM
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hell no that girl was actually hot. it looks like he can't afford to pay for beards of that quality anymore
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The one to the right sure does resemble her, but it's been so long since I've seen that shit.
here's her ig https://instagram.com/dearbambi/
Title: Re: Heath is Birdhouse's Mystery Guest
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on September 03, 2015, 05:24:02 PM
I think he knows people think he's a weirdo for his guru schtick and has fun playing it up.

 :D

Yo Jereme, imma let you finish but seriously ???
"but I come from where all humans come from, some life source"
Oh you do? Wow mang, that's pretty fucking deep right there ::)
You're not fucking guest lecturing for deepak chopra for christ sakes, someone from thrasher just asked you where you were born.
That's fine if if he thinks he is 'spiritual' or accessing some higher power or some shit but he just comes off as totally delusional/ so full of himself that I full-body cringe every single time he opens his mouth.
He is honestly like watching a car crash for me...

And those girls, really? It seriously looks like you just walked down the street offering randoms money with the only criteria being;
a) you'll have to stand next to Jereme for more than 1 minute
b) you'll have to try your hardest not to cringe with every word said

On the plus side, I'll guess he'll make for interesting guest??
I think Chocolate should get bonus points simply for having to put up with him 24/7
 
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Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on September 03, 2015, 06:02:00 PM
Also, called it:

jereme still rips - must only wear magnums for the entire trip (feet on couch optional)
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Post by: OldmanEpic on September 03, 2015, 06:29:38 PM
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I think he knows people think he's a weirdo for his guru schtick and has fun playing it up.
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 :D

Yo Jereme, imma let you finish but seriously ???
"but I come from where all humans come from, some life source"
Oh you do? Wow mang, that's pretty fucking deep right there ::)
You're not fucking guest lecturing for deepak chopra for christ sakes, someone from thrasher just asked you where you were born.
That's fine if if he thinks he is 'spiritual' or accessing some higher power or some shit but he just comes off as totally delusional/ so full of himself that I full-body cringe every single time he opens his mouth.
He is honestly like watching a car crash for me...

And those girls, really? It seriously looks like you just walked down the street offering randoms money with the only criteria being;
a) you'll have to stand next to Jereme for more than 1 minute
b) you'll have to try your hardest not to cringe with every word said

On the plus side, I'll guess he'll make for interesting guest??
I think Chocolate should get bonus points simply for having to put up with him 24/7
 

Meh. Hes an interesting guy in a world full of  bland people.

Let him do his thing and enjoy it. Or if not, just dont pay attention.

Title: Re: Heath is Birdhouse's Mystery Guest
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on September 03, 2015, 06:43:16 PM
Meh. Hes trying way to hard to be an interesting guy in a world full of bland people.

If he just shut the fuck up and skated (you listening mike v?) then I honestly wouldn't mind him, but his whole "yo, I'm enlightened cuz I read some self help books in jail (yet watch me brag about "bitches" and how much money I supposedly have)" shtick annoys the hell out of me. I probably should just ignore him as you suggested, again though he's my car crash; I simply can't turn away from the horror :o 

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Post by: Spicasaurus on September 03, 2015, 06:50:14 PM
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Meh. Hes trying way to hard to be an interesting guy in a world full of bland people.
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"yo, I'm enlightened cuz I read some self help books in jail (yet watch me brag about "bitches" and how much money I supposedly have)"


It wasn't jail it was the fuckin mushrooms that did that to him all that spiritual shit he spouts comes straight from the archetypal mushroom trip.
Title: Re: Heath is Birdhouse's Mystery Guest
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on September 03, 2015, 06:57:15 PM
It wasn't jail it was the fuckin mushrooms that did that to him all that spiritual shit he spouts comes straight from the archetypal mushroom trip.

That's one fucking long trip there Jereme :D
If you wanna get on the spiritual trip thang then hey, that's fine. He comes across waaaay pompous for me to not face palm at all the shit he dribbles though. A good choice by Thrasher though no doubt, will be interesting to see how everyone deals with him
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Post by: poorlatino on September 03, 2015, 06:59:20 PM
Birdhouse will probably win again, I'm glad Heath will get some of that cash. Looking forward to this one!
Forrest is funny. also I met Jereme when he was on KOTR. Super nice dude, this was pre-mushroom trip.
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Post by: Monkey_Mcpott on September 03, 2015, 07:17:04 PM
Jereme was as annoying as ever but there's absolutely nothing worse than someone bragging about how much money they USE to make.
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Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on September 03, 2015, 07:21:38 PM
I look forward to Jereme trying to start some weirdo cult compound some day.

Can see it now actually. Also predict that the majority of its members will be ex-juggalo types
ICP collab in the works?
Title: Re: Heath is Birdhouse's Mystery Guest
Post by: beazlocal on September 03, 2015, 07:45:15 PM
Casanova is a broke man
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Post by: Tracer on September 03, 2015, 07:50:17 PM
Heath of retirement, he will be skating obviously. Forrest is be perfect for KOTR, he can do anything man, too bad he's just a guest
Title: Re: Heath is Birdhouse's Mystery Guest
Post by: Ticallion Stallion on September 03, 2015, 07:55:01 PM
Birdhouse will probably win again, I'm glad Heath will get some of that cash. Looking forward to this one!
Forrest is funny. also I met Jereme when he was on KOTR. Super nice dude, this was pre-mushroom tip.
Title: Re: Heath is Birdhouse's Mystery Guest
Post by: QUIT SINNIN on September 04, 2015, 01:30:06 AM
To whoever asked, Heath quit as Emerica TM like 6 months ago. Some dude named Casey does it now. I think there was an interview in Thrasher.

I'm starting to think another Heath part really might happen.
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Post by: Doom patrol on September 04, 2015, 04:49:31 AM
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I look forward to Jereme trying to start some weirdo cult compound some day.
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Can see it now actually. Also predict that the majority of its members will be ex-juggalo types
ICP collab in the works?
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I'm thinking of it more as a Scientology Lite for bored kids in LA.  It'll all end in a cyanide laced champagne foam party in Ibiza.

I imagine the cult initiation would involve mushroom tea, a facial tattoo to show devotion to the leader and the ceremonial burning of all bridges from your previous life.
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Post by: pabloalvarado on September 04, 2015, 08:22:48 PM
(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/11363951_1470153959978841_1931731503_n.jpg)
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Post by: Allen. on September 05, 2015, 09:34:19 AM
I look forward to Jereme trying to start some weirdo cult compound some day.

"RIP to my cult one day"
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Post by: Ccannon on September 05, 2015, 11:12:47 AM
What the fuck happened to jereme
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Post by: The Woodsman on September 05, 2015, 01:45:03 PM
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Word around town...

Often they still rip....
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Post by: Spicasaurus on September 05, 2015, 02:18:03 PM
(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/11363951_1470153959978841_1931731503_n.jpg)

this is pretty fuckin disturbing
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Post by: Cadillac Ranch Dressing on September 05, 2015, 02:28:10 PM
Are you kidding? That's awesome.
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Post by: too much on September 05, 2015, 02:58:32 PM
Why is Jereme getting shine? What the fuck

Heath seemed embarrassed to be grouped in with those two. Heath is the man, he should be mentioned more often as one of the best street skaters of all time, imo.
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Post by: Maggie on September 05, 2015, 05:51:05 PM
why are so many of you hating on jereme? he's fucking hilarious
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Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on September 05, 2015, 07:46:22 PM
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Word around town...
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Post by: turtleboy86 on September 05, 2015, 11:31:57 PM
edwards pro for zero hype begins
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Post by: shark tits on September 05, 2015, 11:55:18 PM
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Word around town...
bitch i still don't got no kids
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Post by: frontsideindy on September 06, 2015, 05:55:48 AM
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I look forward to Jereme trying to start some weirdo cult compound some day.
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Can see it now actually. Also predict that the majority of its members will be ex-juggalo types
ICP collab in the works?

Jereme - coud be the next Charles Manson - and Heath
the next Charles Bronson.
Good Mystery Guest this year - i am hyped.
They all rip and have potential to collect points
or fuck up the crew- good callange for the team.
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Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on September 06, 2015, 05:45:02 PM
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bitch i still don't got no kids

(which makes me wonder about his sperm count)

Word around town is I fucked a thousand bitches... DAMN
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Post by: castillo's curls on September 07, 2015, 01:21:47 AM
Heath with the Larry David tribute  :D
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Post by: The Woodsman on September 07, 2015, 08:22:47 AM
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bitch i still don't got no kids
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(which makes me wonder about his sperm count)

Word around town is I fucked a thousand bitches... DAMN

You got that last part backwards, its fucked a thousand bitches then the no kids part. I mean Jesus if your going to quote a master piece at least you could get it right.
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Post by: shark tits on September 07, 2015, 08:31:34 AM
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bitch i still don't got no kids
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(which makes me wonder about his sperm count)

Word around town is I fucked a thousand bitches... DAMN
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You got that last part backwards, its fucked a thousand bitches then the no kids part. I mean Jesus if your going to quote a master piece at least you could get it right.
ha, you'd think, right? i actually watched it to make sure before i posted and it's in weird order cause jereme's different, yeah he different' sort of a silly thing to argue/search up proof of order but anyways. i think the fact that we have nonsense like this to enjoy is the important part.

http://genius.com/Jcasanova-30-thousand-100-million-lyrics (http://genius.com/Jcasanova-30-thousand-100-million-lyrics)
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Post by: The Woodsman on September 07, 2015, 08:38:16 AM
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bitch i still don't got no kids
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(which makes me wonder about his sperm count)

Word around town is I fucked a thousand bitches... DAMN
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You got that last part backwards, its fucked a thousand bitches then the no kids part. I mean Jesus if your going to quote a master piece at least you could get it right.
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ha, you'd think, right? i actually watched it to make sure before i posted and it's in weird order cause jereme's different, yeah he different' sort of a silly thing to argue/search up proof of order but anyways. i think the fact that we have nonsense like this to enjoy is the important part.

http://genius.com/Jcasanova-30-thousand-100-million-lyrics (http://genius.com/Jcasanova-30-thousand-100-million-lyrics)

Damn it! My memory has failed me. In an attempt to make up for it I'll post the video for everyone enjoyment

J.Casanova 30 Thousand 100 Million video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv32onsjaeE#)
Title: Re: Heath is Birdhouse's Mystery Guest
Post by: Theme For A Jackal on September 07, 2015, 09:05:39 AM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/66/c0/a1/66c0a1c5eed832ee7b8538fdf0bc3208.jpg)

Was waiting for a Macaulay Culkin as Michael Alig reference
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Post by: Monkey_Mcpott on September 07, 2015, 11:00:15 AM
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bitch i still don't got no kids
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(which makes me wonder about his sperm count)

Word around town is I fucked a thousand bitches... DAMN
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You got that last part backwards, its fucked a thousand bitches then the no kids part. I mean Jesus if your going to quote a master piece at least you could get it right.
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ha, you'd think, right? i actually watched it to make sure before i posted and it's in weird order cause jereme's different, yeah he different' sort of a silly thing to argue/search up proof of order but anyways. i think the fact that we have nonsense like this to enjoy is the important part.

http://genius.com/Jcasanova-30-thousand-100-million-lyrics (http://genius.com/Jcasanova-30-thousand-100-million-lyrics)
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Damn it! My memory has failed me. In an attempt to make up for it I'll post the video for everyone enjoyment

J.Casanova 30 Thousand 100 Million video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv32onsjaeE#)

The parodies where just as funny.

G.Casanova 30 Thousand 100 Million (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqjPFU7LAK4#)

jereme rogers is a pedophile (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lHQy9b_6bI#)
Title: Re: Heath is Birdhouse's Mystery Guest
Post by: Ndsr on September 07, 2015, 11:28:35 AM
Birdhouse will probably win again, I'm glad Heath will get some of that cash. Looking forward to this one!
Forrest is funny. also I met Jereme when he was on KOTR. Super nice dude, this was pre-mushroom trip.
Damn is that mikey chin?  In the flash of coarse.  That dude is next level
Title: Re: Heath is Birdhouse's Mystery Guest
Post by: Hannity on September 07, 2015, 11:46:53 AM
To whoever asked, Heath quit as Emerica TM like 6 months ago. Some dude named Casey does it now. I think there was an interview in Thrasher.

I'm starting to think another Heath part really might happen.
I thought Jeff Henderson had been TM for most of Emerica's existence
Title: Re: Heath is Birdhouse's Mystery Guest
Post by: poorlatino on September 07, 2015, 01:43:04 PM
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Birdhouse will probably win again, I'm glad Heath will get some of that cash. Looking forward to this one!
Forrest is funny. also I met Jereme when he was on KOTR. Super nice dude, this was pre-mushroom trip.
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Damn is that mikey chin?  In the flash of coarse.  That dude is next level

Are you talking
Title: Re: Heath is Birdhouse's Mystery Guest
Post by: pussy popper,pot smoker on September 07, 2015, 04:35:38 PM
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bitch i still don't got no kids
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(which makes me wonder about his sperm count)

Word around town is I fucked a thousand bitches... DAMN
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You got that last part backwards, its fucked a thousand bitches then the no kids part. I mean Jesus if your going to quote a master piece at least you could get it right.
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ha, you'd think, right? i actually watched it to make sure before i posted and it's in weird order cause jereme's different, yeah he different' sort of a silly thing to argue/search up proof of order but anyways. i think the fact that we have nonsense like this to enjoy is the important part.

http://genius.com/Jcasanova-30-thousand-100-million-lyrics (http://genius.com/Jcasanova-30-thousand-100-million-lyrics)
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Damn it! My memory has failed me. In an attempt to make up for it I'll post the video for everyone enjoyment

J.Casanova 30 Thousand 100 Million video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv32onsjaeE#)
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The parodies where just as funny.

G.Casanova 30 Thousand 100 Million (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqjPFU7LAK4#)

jereme rogers is a pedophile (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lHQy9b_6bI#)
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Whatever happened to the video of Grant skyping Jereme? Did it get taken down? That was comedy.
which grant? please tell me it's grant taylor, i need to see that video.
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Post by: deluxxxe on September 07, 2015, 06:32:46 PM
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bitch i still don't got no kids
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(which makes me wonder about his sperm count)

Word around town is I fucked a thousand bitches... DAMN
[close]

You got that last part backwards, its fucked a thousand bitches then the no kids part. I mean Jesus if your going to quote a master piece at least you could get it right.
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ha, you'd think, right? i actually watched it to make sure before i posted and it's in weird order cause jereme's different, yeah he different' sort of a silly thing to argue/search up proof of order but anyways. i think the fact that we have nonsense like this to enjoy is the important part.

http://genius.com/Jcasanova-30-thousand-100-million-lyrics (http://genius.com/Jcasanova-30-thousand-100-million-lyrics)
[close]

Damn it! My memory has failed me. In an attempt to make up for it I'll post the video for everyone enjoyment

J.Casanova 30 Thousand 100 Million video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv32onsjaeE#)
[close]

The parodies where just as funny.

G.Casanova 30 Thousand 100 Million (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqjPFU7LAK4#)

jereme rogers is a pedophile (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lHQy9b_6bI#)
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Whatever happened to the video of Grant skyping Jereme? Did it get taken down? That was comedy.
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which grant? please tell me it's grant taylor, i need to see that video.

I'm guessing grant yansura since hes in that video making fun of Jereme. either way I'm trying to see this skype video
Title: Re: Heath is Birdhouse's Mystery Guest
Post by: pussy popper,pot smoker on September 07, 2015, 07:20:22 PM
(http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/nate-sherwood-jereme-rogers.jpg)
skype video pls
Title: Re: Heath is Birdhouse's Mystery Guest
Post by: yatallfreak on September 07, 2015, 10:13:49 PM
https://instagram.com/p/7W19aOPwdp/?taken-by=thrashermag
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Post by: essal on September 07, 2015, 11:24:25 PM
this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbYb2zBaeqk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbYb2zBaeqk)

but the original video is just jereme talking to the camera..
Title: Re: Heath is Birdhouse's Mystery Guest
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on September 08, 2015, 12:48:06 AM

You got that last part backwards, its fucked a thousand bitches then the no kids part. I mean Jesus if your going to quote a master piece at least you could get it right.

So you came in and interrupted our light banter to point out that I was wrong when in fact YOU were the one who was wrong? ::)
I mean Jesus, if you're going to do that at least double check the track in question :-\
Title: Re: Heath is Birdhouse's Mystery Guest
Post by: DISTANT RUMOURS on September 09, 2015, 01:56:28 AM
Any new heath footage will be welcomed by me with a box of kleenex.

Whether it will be used to wipe off tears of joy or fapping is unconfirmed for now...
Title: Re: Heath is Birdhouse's Mystery Guest
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on September 09, 2015, 05:42:17 PM
SWAG...
Title: Re: Heath is Birdhouse's Mystery Guest
Post by: Spicasaurus on September 09, 2015, 05:52:55 PM
I feel like this KOTR shit is kind of out of character for Heath, usually he likes things on his own terms but they're going to be making him do a bunch of gay ass challenges and scavenger hunts and shit, talking bout the best thing he's looking forward to is the per diem and free food and shit haha nigga must be dead broke and hears the wolf at that door haha, probably wishes he died in Mexico.
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Post by: KUberry on September 09, 2015, 07:53:09 PM
You jereme is going to do all the crazy ledge combos for the Choco squad and rack up the points.
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Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on September 09, 2015, 09:16:18 PM
You jereme is going to do all the crazy ledge combos for the Choco squad and rack up the points.
Yes, because tech ledge tricks have always been such a huge struggle for skaters that ride for Chocolate ::)
Title: Re: Heath is Birdhouse's Mystery Guest
Post by: that filmer guy on September 10, 2015, 02:53:28 AM
J CASSINOVA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAKjiBKHqv0#)
Title: Re: Heath is Birdhouse's Mystery Guest
Post by: Theme For A Jackal on September 10, 2015, 11:20:28 AM
I feel like this KOTR shit is kind of out of character for Heath, usually he likes things on his own terms but they're going to be making him do a bunch of gay ass challenges and scavenger hunts and shit, talking bout the best thing he's looking forward to is the per diem and free food and shit haha nigga must be dead broke and hears the wolf at that door haha, probably wishes he died in Mexico.

Heath has always been frugal and thinking about how to save/make money. Dude used to stock and manage vending machines on the side at like the peak of his career just for extra cash. I wouldn't take that comment as to him being broke. Also, you know Heath isn't going to do any of the really crazy get naked or chug a beer in your butt kinda shit.
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Post by: Julz on September 10, 2015, 11:56:32 AM
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I feel like this KOTR shit is kind of out of character for Heath, usually he likes things on his own terms but they're going to be making him do a bunch of gay ass challenges and scavenger hunts and shit, talking bout the best thing he's looking forward to is the per diem and free food and shit haha nigga must be dead broke and hears the wolf at that door haha, probably wishes he died in Mexico.
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Heath has always been frugal and thinking about how to save/make money. Dude used to stock and manage vending machines on the side at like the peak of his career just for extra cash. I wouldn't take that comment as to him being broke. Also, you know Heath isn't going to do any of the really crazy get naked or chug a beer in your butt kinda shit.


People just love to insinuate bullshit on here, Heath owns a bar in hollywood and like you said, has done alot of odd jobs throughout his life. Can a man enjoy himself and go on KOTR for fun ? How dumb ca you be to believe that someone would go on KOTR to make ends meet...
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Post by: Spicasaurus on September 10, 2015, 01:24:35 PM
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I feel like this KOTR shit is kind of out of character for Heath, usually he likes things on his own terms but they're going to be making him do a bunch of gay ass challenges and scavenger hunts and shit, talking bout the best thing he's looking forward to is the per diem and free food and shit haha nigga must be dead broke and hears the wolf at that door haha, probably wishes he died in Mexico.
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Heath has always been frugal and thinking about how to save/make money. Dude used to stock and manage vending machines on the side at like the peak of his career just for extra cash. I wouldn't take that comment as to him being broke. Also, you know Heath isn't going to do any of the really crazy get naked or chug a beer in your butt kinda shit.
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People just love to insinuate bullshit on here, Heath owns a bar in hollywood and like you said, has done alot of odd jobs throughout his life. Can a man enjoy himself and go on KOTR for fun ? How dumb ca you be to believe that someone would go on KOTR to make ends meet...

dumb enough to take an eye out
Title: Re: Heath is Birdhouse's Mystery Guest
Post by: Monkey_Mcpott on September 10, 2015, 08:27:50 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/8boFqFO.gif)
Title: Re: Heath is Birdhouse's Mystery Guest
Post by: Watson on September 12, 2015, 10:40:04 AM
I feel like this KOTR shit is kind of out of character for Heath, usually he likes things on his own terms but they're going to be making him do a bunch of gay ass challenges and scavenger hunts and shit, talking bout the best thing he's looking forward to is the per diem and free food and shit haha nigga must be dead broke and hears the wolf at that door haha, probably wishes he died in Mexico.

No one makes Heath do shit.
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Post by: shit_for_brains on September 12, 2015, 10:56:28 AM
I should buy a vending machine.
Title: Re: Heath is Birdhouse's Mystery Guest
Post by: Brown Thunder on September 12, 2015, 02:57:32 PM
https://instagram.com/p/7espBbHtbo/?taken-by=emerica

i suppose this is relevant here.. does this mean heath is filming for Made 2
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Post by: mattofallmatts on September 12, 2015, 03:46:17 PM
https://instagram.com/p/7espBbHtbo/?taken-by=emerica

i suppose this is relevant here.. does this mean heath is filming for Made 2

FUCK. Classic Heath slam.
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Post by: pussy popper,pot smoker on September 12, 2015, 10:39:48 PM
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i suppose this is relevant here.. does this mean heath is filming for Made 2
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FUCK. Classic Heath slam.
nigga damn, he tried to bluntslide that shit? if he has a part MADE 2 is going to be sick as fuck.
Title: Re: Heath is Birdhouse's Mystery Guest
Post by: Spitfire4life on September 12, 2015, 11:45:17 PM
Heath did a backtail kickflip to forward on a bank to bench in Made 1. So he's probably just going to have a trick or two like last time  :'(
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Post by: Rusty_Berrings on September 13, 2015, 06:11:44 AM
Ah, the "video interviews" for introducing the Mystery Guests sorta felt like a throwback to Rolling Thunder with Heath being interviewed between tricks. Also, there's a naked guy skating at the beginning of the video, which Heath has now assured us he will never do.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkRNBFzKkOg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkRNBFzKkOg#)
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Post by: chilllyboy on September 13, 2015, 07:54:21 AM
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i suppose this is relevant here.. does this mean heath is filming for Made 2
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FUCK. Classic Heath slam.

Y'all notice that his wrist came up crooked?