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Skateboarding => PHOTOS/VIDEO => Topic started by: gingerlightning on February 08, 2016, 12:52:08 AM
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http://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/videos/jim-greco-s-the-way-out-video/ (http://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/videos/jim-greco-s-the-way-out-video/)
sum rly good stuff, a lot of not so rly great stuff. do urself a favour and skip to the 4 min mark.
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Also drink every time greco in slow mo // second / third / fourth angle.
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with this film, Grecs has definitely cemented himself as the Vincent Gallo of Skateboarding
(that's a compliment)
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I get what he was going for and I like that, but it was way too much of him jerking off. I guess it's the other side of the Vincent Gallo comparison.
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Jim Greco presents, a Jim Greco film. The Way Out, a love letter to Jim Greco. Starring Jim Greco.
I've got to say that narcissist has still got it. Really great journeyman skateboarding. It's actually a pretty decent short film. Credit where credit is due.
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Some great skating in there from Greco and Klein. Great spot selection and I liked seeing Greco do some moves he's not so known for i.e 360 flips, impossibles etc.
The music and filming was well done for the most part although often a bit on the long side as expected. High level of Martin Scorsesse influence flowing.
SPOILER: Greco's last trick is an old photo of him injecting heroin.
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AMAZING SOUNDTRACK
GRECO IS SO FUCKING COOL
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Tough one this... on one hand it's cool that it's not just another skate video. But on the other it could've been a better 'short film' or whatever it's going for.
It's like if early Jim Jarmusch decided to do a 'ballad of Jim Greco' but didn't have time to edit it properly.
But it's rad he's still sober and it's cool that skateboarding in 2016 doesn't have to be the latest so cal kid flipping down stairs or east coast dudes doing no-comply's. And lets face it - it would take some balls to present this about yourself, so I guess it's a win, but by a pretty small margin.
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Diggin this outsider, dealing with your own demons Greco. Great skating too. Jeremy Klein really surprised me with his tricks apparently he still has it. Really nice to see some kind of comeback of longer videos like this and the converse one.
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yo this was FUCKED up
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Mirror Father Mirror (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OY0FvhypaY#)
good film tho! tricks were rad especially klein's on the brick transition. pallet sesh was cool. good fits and the soundtrack was sick. i really liked the colors in this too
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Really enjoyed that!
I think the traditional skate video stopped resonating with a lot of people the last 5-10 years and the industry's answer to this has been to present contrived 'fun' skating but often it is just easy off the wall tricks and excessive bro-ing down.
For whatever reason the footage of Greco and Klein skating took me back to that original feeling skating gave me as a kid.
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Also drink every time greco in slow mo // second / third / fourth angle.
Thanks now I'm out of beer, and I don't think Jim will be happy about you turning his sobriety film into a drinking game.
Also Klein is amazing, was most stoked on his clips.
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I want to be Jim Greco when I grow up. Enjoyed every second of the film. It's impressive, bold, beautifully shot and edited, great skating, great soundtrack and I'm down for the masturbation. Good work Jim, Klein, Joey and everyone involved. Now to watch it again.
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yo this was FUCKED up
seriously. how old is Klein? 43?
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Besides the overuse of multiple repeated slow motion shots (which was only appropriate for Klein's BS 360 - holy shit that was good), they definitely had an interesting approach with this one. Thus said: Jim Greco's acting really isn't too great. They should have gotten Leo for his role.
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Skating was dope, but the rest gave me second hand embarrassement urges. Talking about yourself without sounding lame is difficult, I imagine making a movie is way more difficult. Would rather a second epicly laterd.
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So good to see footage of Jeremy skating to Cocteau Twins again
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Kleins KF 50-50 on the pallet and nosepick..
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Cool to see Jeremy and Ron together again.
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Am I really the only one who couldn't finish it? Looked like every 15 year olds fa rip off but with a good camera
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yo this was FUCKED up
seriously. how old is Klein? 43?
Damn. This was so sick.
I REALLY liked this, a lot.
Greco went out on a limb, and made a (seemingly) honest and unironic film about his life as a sober skateboarder, while surrounded by the dregs of addiction at every corner. It was refreshing to see, even if some of it felt slightly contrived or cliche. Fucking sick.
I hope this inspires other people to make more interesting edits/films.
Skating was so good, and soundtrack was absolutely on point.
Hopefully hard copies will exist!
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Woah, did not expect that.
My interpretation:
In a city of broken dreams, those whose dreams have been fulfilled(being pro) still find no meaning and are fated to forever repeat the act of the only thing they know without dreams or anything left to achieve.
The bust of Kierkegaard was a nice touch and very fitting.
Greco on existential crisis to which the only remedy is skating and the enjoyment it offers, pretty rad
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Was Greco covering his morning boner with a pillow? That was too funny
Greco can't edit for shit, Slow Mo was horrible, other then that, it was an amazing film
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yo this was FUCKED up
seriously. how old is Klein? 43?
Fucking wow... that was seriously radical.
The back three to fakie that is... not the whole film.
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Great. Ron Chatman was in there, that was kool. Another Johnny Thunders tribute (thats kool too) The car is a shit heap tho.
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Loved every aspect. Greco makes skating appealing...period, unlike most in this day and age. And in every aspect by the way but...
A Greco impossible >>> A Dylan impossible
Can't wait for that jk industries vid also.
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if jim greco is the vincent gallo of skateboarding, at least his movie has some really good skateboarding in it. vincent gallo has no redeeming qualities for his narcissism, though he tries to be a musician. and it was well paced compared to a typical skate video where you sometimes get fatigued by the constant flow of skating without any breaks or changes. definitely want a hard copy.
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if i could save klein in a bottle
the firstthing that i'd like to do
is smash the bottle against a wall
and spend some naked time w/ you
*you being james jacob jinglehiemer greco junior but they call him jim. let's sit around and chat, man w/ ronald chatman.
i liked it in a 'nearer, father, nearer' sort of way, thanks to the guy who posted that.
i didn't get it but greco helps me stay sober.
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yo this was FUCKED up
seriously. how old is Klein? 43?
Damn. This was so sick.
I REALLY liked this, a lot.
Greco went out on a limb, and made a (seemingly) honest and unironic film about his life as a sober skateboarder, while surrounded by the dregs of addiction at every corner. It was refreshing to see, even if some of it felt slightly contrived or cliche. Fucking sick.
I hope this inspires other people to make more interesting edits/films.
Skating was so good, and soundtrack was absolutely on point.
Hopefully hard copies will exist!
Hopefully the JK Industries video will up to par.
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Also drink every time greco in slow mo // second / third / fourth angle.
Also Klein is amazing, was most stoked on his clips.
That was the joke lol :p
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Klein had the best shit. It was funny how he said "Is he even speaking English" when talking shit about that reggae song while he listens to the Cocteau Twins. CT is my all-time favorite band, but talk about a lack of self awareness.
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Best part of the whole thing.
This really glorfied sobriety.
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Woah, did not expect that.
My interpretation:
In a city of broken dreams, those whose dreams have been fulfilled(being pro) still find no meaning and are fated to forever repeat the act of the only thing they know without dreams or anything left to achieve.
The bust of Kierkegaard was a nice touch and very fitting.
Greco on existential crisis to which the only remedy is skating and the enjoyment it offers, pretty rad
I need an interpretation of your interpretation.
I'm going to give it a shot:
Bobby McFerrin - Don't Worry Be Happy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU#)
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This is just a reminder of how much I dislike Greco... I just get the feeling that he is trying so hard to stay relevant or become some sort of hollywood star. Everything he produces is so fake and cringe-worthy that I feel like he dosent have any soul.
Those were some awesome Klein clips though!!
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Reminded a bit of the documentary "Stuff" which was filmed by Johnny Depp & Gibson Haynes, basically them walking though Frusciante's house when he was battling addiction:
Documentary "Stuff" John Frusciante Circa 1993 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWBj7NR338Y#)
Stuff is great. I was listening to Frusciante in the morning...so good hes alive. I really love that Lounge Act cover from like 2001.
This film was epic. Really love the 70s vibe. A true oddity to sobriety; I really like the final minutes and hell yeah skateboarding was on-point.
So Greco of this...
Jim Greco's Ultimate Skate Bachelor Pad | Home Invasion, Ep. 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMumvc-WtrE#)
I really like his apartment cause have a lot of shit I also own like vinyls, books and woodfloors. ::)
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No one noticed yet!????
The curb cut he goes off in the beginning over the newspaper box with hydrant on the ground is the same one he bumps to the back of the "advertise here" bench.... Clips are filmed on opposing sides so backgrounds look different.
Some Berrics bullshit
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Was neat to hear some tracks off of John Frusciante's Niandre Lades and Usually Just a T-Shirt album in there.
I put it on right afterwards
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Gotta respect Greco for doing things the way he wanted them to be done. Klein and himself put on quite a show too. I honestly think if this was in some kind of sundance indie movie competition people who dont know/care about skating would absolutely eat this up.
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No one noticed yet!????
The curb cut he goes off in the beginning over the newspaper box with hydrant on the ground is the same one he bumps to the back of the "advertise here" bench.... Clips are filmed on opposing sides so backgrounds look different.
Some Berrics bullshit
i thought the second one looked funny
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Reminded a bit of the documentary "Stuff" which was filmed by Johnny Depp & Gibson Haynes, basically them walking though Frusciante's house when he was battling addiction:
Documentary "Stuff" John Frusciante Circa 1993 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWBj7NR338Y#)
Stuff is great. I was listening to Frusciante in the morning...so good hes alive. I really love that Lounge Act cover from like 2001.
This film was epic. Really love the 70s vibe. A true oddity to sobriety; I really like the final minutes and hell yeah skateboarding was on-point.
So Greco of this...
Jim Greco's Ultimate Skate Bachelor Pad | Home Invasion, Ep. 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMumvc-WtrE#)
I really like his apartment cause have a lot of shit I also own like vinyls, books and woodfloors. � ::)
Does that House of Hammers park exist anymore? I feel like I haven't seen it in almost a year
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if jim greco is the vincent gallo of skateboarding, at least his movie has some really good skateboarding in it. vincent gallo has no redeeming qualities for his narcissism, though he tries to be a musician. and it was well paced compared to a typical skate video where you sometimes get fatigued by the constant flow of skating without any breaks or changes. definitely want a hard copy.
I'd give him one point for getting chloe to blow him on camera
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Jim Greco presents, a Jim Greco film. The Way Out, a love letter to Jim Greco. Starring Jim Greco.
Basically was coming here to say the same thing. I enjoyed the non-conventional presentation of a "skate video" and would have probably enjoyed it 100 times more if someone else had made it about Greco. To know that Greco basically made a documentary about Greco made it really hard for me to not feel embarrassed. The amount of long shots that Greco edited in of himself being contemplative and cool was really ridiculous.
The whole thing reminded me of his Instagram posts where he gets someone to take a photo of him acting like he doesn't know a photo is being taken so he can post a photo of him where he looks really cool.
(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/12530754_1394574360850128_870263711_n.jpg)
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I'm actually a big Greco fan, he's always total entertainment whether it's gnarly skating or ridiculous antics, but there's definitely a lot of similarities between him and Berra, what with the complete and total narcissism and self importance, indoor park, and fake/altered street spots. Although at least Greco still gets out in the streets. In any case this dude fucking loves himself. It's like the romanticism of being a tortured ex-junkie has completely taken over his romanticism of being a tortured junkie.
I feel sorry for any woman who would have sex with him.
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dude wants to live in a martin scorsese movie so bad
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the whole directed, produced, edited, and starring jim greco thing was kind of corny, but i thought the whole thing was great. good job jim!
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kleins back 3, grecos footplant off the bridge
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Background at 12:30 looked very similar. Looks like Paddy's Pub from It's Always Sunny.
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kleins back 3 and grecos outfit on that footplant were particular highlights
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Is Jim Greco good? Yes.
Is Jim Greco lame? Yes.
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Grecos new addiction is himself.
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Background at 12:30 looked very similar. Looks like Paddy's Pub from It's Always Sunny.
it probably is. they only shoot a few scenes in philly each season. the rest is shot in LA.
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Grecos new addiction is himself
You know what they say, stare into the void for too long...
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Background at 12:30 looked very similar. Looks like Paddy's Pub from It's Always Sunny.
it probably is. they only shoot a few scenes in philly each season. the rest is shot in LA.
Really? That's a bit of a bummer.
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this video was such a breath of fresh air
serious props to greco
the final scene with the platters song right after the drug flashbacks was
pretty incredible
great to see this kinda stuff in skateboarding, dude should win some award
for this
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Background at 12:30 looked very similar. Looks like Paddy's Pub from It's Always Sunny.
it probably is. they only shoot a few scenes in philly each season. the rest is shot in LA.
Same shit with The Office. You can tell by all the red curbs everywhere!
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Background at 12:30 looked very similar. Looks like Paddy's Pub from It's Always Sunny.
it probably is. they only shoot a few scenes in philly each season. the rest is shot in LA.
aka real life, fam. Seinfeld was shot entirely in LA too..
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I was really hoping to see a skate video. Greco did an EXCELLENT job at ruining what could have been one. Klein killed it as usual.
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sobriety is a hell of a drug... It's not without faults but I thought this was really refreshing.
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The skating was absolutely amazing. The footplant, the impossible over the chair, the line with the darkslike. Damn. It's obviusly screaming for a reedit but props to Greco for trying something new.
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I thought this whole thing was sick. It didn't seem as much about Greco to me as it did about the small nuances in the repetition of days of your life, especially with addiction always on your neck. I feel like people are giving him way too much shit, its just an autobiography through film. Writers dont get shitted on for writing an autobiography. However, the editing was a bit slow and not very smooth but still good to see him out here.
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Background at 12:30 looked very similar. Looks like Paddy's Pub from It's Always Sunny.
it probably is. they only shoot a few scenes in philly each season. the rest is shot in LA.
aka real life, fam. Seinfeld was shot entirely in LA too..
but what about friends? my whole life is a lie!!for real tho the skating was cool of course but overall im glad i still use drugs and drink after watching that
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This is like a Goodwill Industries lookbook.
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Can't get over how comfortable Klein looked on the board. Would of never of guessed he still had it like that.
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Is Jim Greco good? Yes.
Is Jim Greco lame? Yes.
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dabbling with heroin for 5 minutes doesn't make you an ex-junkie.
The skating was great. Klein has the raddest style.. and even though I can't stand Grecco (or at least the image he puts out there), his sloppy assed style has grown on me over the years. That vid would have ruled if it was just skating with a few of the environmental shots thrown in for flavor.
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I'm definitely not a Greco fan, but I appreciate that that he's using skating and "art" to help him stay sober. As the son of a recovered alcoholic I know that every day of a recovered addicts life is a struggle to stay sober, and it isn't that hard to take 30 minutes to indulge them by listening to their story.
As for the film, of course it comes off as contrived. It's a story that's based on his life. His whole persona is contrived. The guy is a narcissist. But he's at least trying to shed some light on where he is in life and is honest about the damage his past caused. I hope it takes some of the shine off the PD mentality.
It's way better than anything Andrew has done since he got sober.
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I'm definitely not a Greco fan, but I appreciate that that he's using skating and "art" to help him stay sober. As the son of a recovered alcoholic I know that every day of a recovered addicts life is a struggle to stay sober, and it isn't that hard to take 30 minutes to indulge them by listening to their story.
As for the film, of course it comes off as contrived. It's a story that's based on his life. His whole persona is contrived. The guy is a narcissist. But he's at least trying to shed some light on where he is in life and is honest about the damage his past caused. I hope it takes some of the shine off the PD mentality.
It's way better than anything Andrew has done since he got sober.
Easy now, boy
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jeremy "anime enthusiast" klein trying to cool-guy his old friend ron chatman in front of his new friend john travolta. what a world...
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No one noticed yet!????
The curb cut he goes off in the beginning over the newspaper box with hydrant on the ground is the same one he bumps to the back of the "advertise here" bench.... Clips are filmed on opposing sides so backgrounds look different.
Some Berrics bullshit
Heres another one:
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Too much bum footage which seemed exploitive anyway
The contemplative stuff apparently intended to convey a "day in the life for an old, sober skater" was mostly OK although the interior shot of the car when he hit the brakes hard was a little on the nose. Reminded me of this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cOx2PMnxTY).
"He has the soul of a poet."
The Simpsons - Barney Gumble's short film | "Don't cry for me, I'm already dead!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cOx2PMnxTY#)
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turned it on and saw the bum footage and thought "here we go", but i ended up liking it. kinda skimmed the non skating, but i thought it was enjoyable and had a good soundtrack
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jeremy "anime enthusiast" klein trying to cool-guy his old friend ron chatman in front of his new friend john travolta. what a world...
pretty sure these 3 dudes have all been friends for close to 20 years...
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if jim greco is the vincent gallo of skateboarding, at least his movie has some really good skateboarding in it. vincent gallo has no redeeming qualities for his narcissism, though he tries to be a musician. and it was well paced compared to a typical skate video where you sometimes get fatigued by the constant flow of skating without any breaks or changes. definitely want a hard copy.
narcissism is A-ok in my book if said narcissist is able to concoct great art such as this
Buffalo 66 Photobooth Scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fLeBNaC9Kg#)
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Brown Bunny was more recent in my mind and so bad that I forgot Buffalo 66 was pretty good.
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Jim Greco is so hyped on Jim Greco.
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Maybe I missed the thread/ad but
He just fakie 360 flipped a table.
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I'm definitely not a Greco fan, but I appreciate that that he's using skating and "art" to help him stay sober. As the son of a recovered alcoholic I know that every day of a recovered addicts life is a struggle to stay sober, and it isn't that hard to take 30 minutes to indulge them by listening to their story.
As for the film, of course it comes off as contrived. It's a story that's based on his life. His whole persona is contrived. The guy is a narcissist. But he's at least trying to shed some light on where he is in life and is honest about the damage his past caused. I hope it takes some of the shine off the PD mentality.
It's way better than anything Andrew has done since he got sober.
Easy now, boy
you can get all the way out of here, even if he looked like this for a while
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z280/Jare_Bear15/AndrewReynolds-3.jpg)
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Greco is more like the Kanye West of skateboarding.
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Maybe I missed the thread/ad but
He just fakie 360 flipped a table.
I must've missed it.
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Loved it, even though (or maybe because) it was pretty depressing. �All I could think about was how utterly lonely and unhappy he seems. Relatable.
He might be mildly obsessed with the way he looks, but to say he loves himself, or has the ego of Kanye, is probably the complete opposite of the truth.
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'More celebrities know of me, than I know of them.' - Jim Greco
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i see right through this hollywood bs. guy is still romanticizing his life as an addict, he ain't some gnarly bum or ex con that got his life together he always had support.
he was never going to fall as far as the troubled souls he's filming like they're a reflection of what could have happened to him. mind your business and stop exploiting broken individuals.
a stronger man doesn't play that angle. it's like darren harper reminding everyone he's from the hood and could have gotten killed. ok, we get it!
i don't hear any brasilians moaning about how raw their life was in some shanty hood, they persevere and rip and let their skills do the talking.
sick fucking skating though.
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It was nice to see Bum Greco pulling off that nollie bs flip.
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After the first 5 minutes I was ready to stop watching. Super close.
Then it got rad. I think if Klien wasn't in it it may have been different.
There was really no need for the shooting up photo. We get it Jim. You dabbled.
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jeremy "anime enthusiast" klein trying to cool-guy his old friend ron chatman in front of his new friend john travolta. what a world...
pretty sure these 3 dudes have all been friends for close to 20 years...
jeremy and ron go back to the very beginning with each other, 20 years plus. jeremy and disco stu just met like a year and a half ago...
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Well thats half an hour of my life I'm never getting back. Five minutes of exploiting hobos, half a minute of quality footage (fake tre flip the table was awesome), a minute of sub par footage and twenty five minutes of self important try hard waffle. Greco was never a junkie, he dabbled in hard drugs and partied as much as any other young guy with a lot of free time but he constantly tries to pretend he's a tortured rock star genius. His new clothes are too funny as well, he is honestly the biggest kook in skateboarding.
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^^ Yeah Greco featured heavily in Asian Godess, fakie 360 flipped an oil drum
I don't think he was trying to portray tortured, seemed more like showing the mundane-ness of being a not fucked up aging pro in LA
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jeremy "anime enthusiast" klein trying to cool-guy his old friend ron chatman in front of his new friend john travolta. what a world...
pretty sure these 3 dudes have all been friends for close to 20 years...
jeremy and ron go back to the very beginning with each other, 20 years plus. jeremy and disco stu just met like a year and a half ago...
(http://i.imgur.com/coCX86X.jpg)
^^ Yeah Greco featured heavily in Asian Godess, fakie 360 flipped an oil drum
I don't think he was trying to portray tortured, seemed more like showing the mundane-ness of being a not fucked up aging pro in LA
I'M PULLING THE PLUG. i know the history, but the idea was that every era of jim greco is in fact a different person, so i referenced jeremy and ron by their names and jim by his newest and current incarnation, i got a little high-concept and wingding-y and it cost me. gonna go ahead and cut my losses...
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That was rough. The skating was good but there was no way I was going to sit through the whole thing. I had to skip around. As many have said here the whole thing seemed very contrived, pretentious, narcissistic, etc. I can appreciate new approaches to skate videos but that was a cheesy short film with some slow-mo skating in the middle. Jim is good but needs to get his head out his ass. Will pre-trick modeling be the new trend of 2k16?
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they even got a shot of jeremy klein littering ::)
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This was cute.
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He does his job. I liked it.
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they even got a shot of jeremy klein littering ::)
Kinda bummed me out. Then I thought he/they probably left all that rubbish at the ditch spot. #rebels #fuckwits
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Don't get me wrong. I'm very happy he is sober and still skating on the top levels, but what has he done to undo the PD legacy? Tell Figgy to not start drinking? Take away a a couple pro models? Start making lame graphics that give Girl a run for their money?
How about Baker, Shake Junt, and Death Wish all do a series about addiction/prevention/recovery and donate all proceeds to addiction/prevention/recovery services?
At least Greco is showing a realistic view into what a recovering addict goes through every day. You may want to get over your sacred cows.
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I'm definitely not a Greco fan, but I appreciate that that he's using skating and "art" to help him stay sober. As the son of a recovered alcoholic I know that every day of a recovered addicts life is a struggle to stay sober, and it isn't that hard to take 30 minutes to indulge them by listening to their story.
As for the film, of course it comes off as contrived. It's a story that's based on his life. His whole persona is contrived. The guy is a narcissist. But he's at least trying to shed some light on where he is in life and is honest about the damage his past caused. I hope it takes some of the shine off the PD mentality.
It's way better than anything Andrew has done since he got sober.
Easy now, boy
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that klein bs 360 really was the best thing in there, which i would have never thought going into it. still enjoyed it all though, he is def narcissistic and plays it up but the cinematography was good enough that it worked. joey sinko seems to be a pretty talented filmmaker/filmer. greco should have given him directing credit imo.
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How many identity/ fashion crises does Greco have during this flick?
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If anything this makes me want to get my hands on a bunch of hook-ups/jk industries stuff
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according to thrasher - it's about his 11th year of sobriety
could explain why he whipped his board at the Paddy's Pub exterior (they don't shoot inside of course)
but also, if dealing with sobriety - do at least one trick down a 12-step(stair)
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I enjoyed this to the fullest extent. A lot of these negative comments remind me of when I was finishing an associates degree in Fine Art. Yes, it was simply an associates degree, but I treated everything I did before graduation as if it were a huge ordeal. I invited everyone I knew, and really supported my intent and thoughts. Then, when I got the opening, I seriously saw that a lot of the classmates "dropped the ball", and just made art for the sake of having something on the wall. They lost insight, they just partook in doing art, not making it. They just hung up their unoriginal version of a self portrait, and had no intentions of offering a genuine explanation if a bystander asked. They just did not care. My art was certainly not the best on the wall, and by all means, could not scratch the true surface of originality, but, I can truly say the intent was sincere, as the primary purpose was to have someone look into what I had been doing for two years.
This video was sincere. This video was grand. For those who commented that that appreciated Greco's efforts, you give me hope that you cannot be so easily persuaded by your peers.
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With a little outside direction this film could go very far.
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Jim Greco presents, a Jim Greco film. The Way Out, a love letter to Jim Greco. Starring Jim Greco.
Basically was coming here to say the same thing. I enjoyed the non-conventional presentation of a "skate video" and would have probably enjoyed it 100 times more if someone else had made it about Greco. To know that Greco basically made a documentary about Greco made it really hard for me to not feel embarrassed. The amount of long shots that Greco edited in of himself being contemplative and cool was really ridiculous.
The whole thing reminded me of his Instagram posts where he gets someone to take a photo of him acting like he doesn't know a photo is being taken so he can post a photo of him where he looks really cool.
(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/12530754_1394574360850128_870263711_n.jpg)
(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e15/11189384_824121704337265_1177243701_n.jpg)
I'm actually a big Greco fan, he's always total entertainment whether it's gnarly skating or ridiculous antics, but there's definitely a lot of similarities between him and Berra, what with the complete and total narcissism and self importance, indoor park, and fake/altered street spots. Although at least Greco still gets out in the streets. In any case this dude fucking loves himself. It's like the romanticism of being a tortured ex-junkie has completely taken over his romanticism of being a tortured junkie.
^^ This!
At so many points I was thinking wow, if someone had created this about him, rather than creating it about himself, I might find myself enjoying it a bit more (couldn't enjoy Klein's PURE GOLD back 3 any more than I did though - not the biggest fan of the guy but his skating is amazing, even at this age). Somehow creating a portrait like this of oneself just doesn't work - the viewer can't help but feel every action or movement is calculated and crafted in an attempt to portray a very specific image. I suppose the fact Greco has continually done this only ads to the idea. There were so many moments that just echoed Berra to me, it was ridiculous. IMO, had Greco gone the way of a ghostwriter and given the credit of the film to a 3rd party, and not put his name in the credits at all, this flick would have been much more enjoyable to many, and this even overlooks all the faked spots like the flatbar roof gap. It's kind of funny that perception alters art like that, but a big part of many arts is the creation and knowing (or even thinking it's possible) that something is so carefully crafted to look nonchalant just heavily takes away from the idea. The less real it seems, the more try-hard it hits, the less effective it is. At the end of the day, this is just a critique of the film from me, not a personal attack on the guy.
I thought this whole thing was sick. It didn't seem as much about Greco to me as it did about the small nuances in the repetition of days of your life, especially with addiction always on your neck. I feel like people are giving him way too much shit, its just an autobiography through film. Writers dont get shitted on for writing an autobiography. However, the editing was a bit slow and not very smooth but still good to see him out here.
Jim, that you?
I'm definitely not a Greco fan, but I appreciate that that he's using skating and "art" to help him stay sober. As the son of a recovered alcoholic I know that every day of a recovered addicts life is a struggle to stay sober, and it isn't that hard to take 30 minutes to indulge them by listening to their story.
^^ This, also!!
To me, it doesn't matter what sort of artistic merit the film has, this does look like it came from the heart with the goal of some sort of message. Regardless how long someone has been sober, or what they are sober from (even 'just' alcohol!), it's a very important part of their lives and their sobriety (and means thereof) should be supported. Whether it's skateboarding, art, or trying to create skateboarding art, I definitely support him doing this sort of thing, just wish he had a bit different of an approach.
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He released it online for free which makes a big difference, if he had expected people to pay for it I would say it was a thirty minute wank fest but because he released it for free I just see it as a cool video that Jim made as a way to express him self. The skating was sick and the shots of his life were cool if that's actually how he views him self, it's nice that he go to share his feelings like that with the world.
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Getting dressed up, and having a bout of social anxiety over how you look in the bathroom mirror, just to sit in a chair by the window in your apartment and look depressed, is basically the biggest lifestyle hammer of all time.
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Getting dressed up, and having a bout of social anxiety over how you look in the bathroom mirror, just to sit in a chair by the window in your apartment and look depressed, is basically the biggest lifestyle hammer of all time.
that was the most relatable part of the whole video
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This was cute.
(http://i.imgur.com/iywK4Gw.png)
(https://media.giphy.com/media/11NM2XQ4kHcTOU/giphy.gif)
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sobriety seems hella depressive.
also didn't klein ruin oiam? #neverforgive but sick back 3!
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This was cute.
(http://i.imgur.com/iywK4Gw.png)
Greco on Japanese school girl confirmed. Klein is gunna be mad stoked
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Only on slap will people say shit like "He wasn't even that addicted to heroin!" and talk shit on an addict. That was a really personal video and as someone struggling with their own demons, it was cool to see. Respect for putting himself out there for all you assholes to judge him, even if it was a bit contrived. The skating was sick too. Good on you greco, stay sober.
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sobriety seems hella depressive.
also didn't klein ruin oiam? #neverforgive but sick back 3!
That was someone else, but he did destroy a dude's skate career because he was gay. I mean, is gay. I assume he's still gay. I know it's not my place to forgive him, but he likes anime and dream pop so all is forgiven.
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This was cute.
(http://i.imgur.com/iywK4Gw.png)
Greco on Japanese school girl confirmed. Klein is gunna be mad stoked
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i loved this. it was like French New Wave meets Scorsese. such a breath of fresh air to see a skate film that's not the same format. i love that he shot it in 35mm too
yeah, it was a bit self indulgent, but, who cares? much respect to Greco. well done.
i'd rathe watch a feature length version of this than berrics clips kids doing flippty flips set to wigger music
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Grecos new addiction is himself.
It has been since day one.
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i loved this. it was like French New Wave meets Scorsese. such a breath of fresh air to see a skate film that's not the same format. i love that he shot it in 35mm too
yeah, it was a bit self indulgent, but, who cares? much respect to Greco. well done.
i'd rathe watch a feature length version of this than berrics clips kids doing flippty flips set to wigger music
I saw it stealing more from Kenneth Anger (Scorsese's influence). I did, however, expect to hear a Taxi Driver style narrative after he made the coffee. I was disappointed that he recorded it on the stock laptop mic instead.
Looking forward to the next one.
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liked that a lot.
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I liked the paddy's pub tricks.
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Grecos new addiction is himself.
"I have to give myself credit" -Jim Greco
"This is a picture of what the past two years of my life has been like" Proceeds to skate around with Jeremy Klein. Then sits around in contemplation. Meditates while eating pizza. Goes home. Dramatic sit behind the door in contemplation. Is he saying being sober for 12 years and skating all day sucks? After 12 years sober you'd think this would be normal now and he would't feel the need to bring it up again. I get that he may feel urges to fall back to his old ways from time to time but damn. I laughed when he slammed on brakes in what I suppose was frustration? I just don't see the point of it besides Greco being Greco and wanting attention combined with the fact that every pro skater thinks they're an artist.
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I don't get why it's taken so long for a skate video to be done like this. I would love to see skateboard videos more like movies. This was way better than We are Blood thats for sure. I wish they didn't cut out the bs 180 fakie 5050 on the downhill red curb.
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is he really sober since 12 years ? i remember him saying not drinking during 2 weeks when he has to film a hammer, it was for the last deathwish vid...
really enjoyed that film btw
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had a lot in common with the two FA clips they put out this year...
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I Didn't know Strobeck even skated with Greco let alone was filming a full length video for him
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sobriety seems hella depressive.
also didn't klein ruin oiam? #neverforgive but sick back 3!
Alex Klein
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Does Jim Greco fuck prostitutes?
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I don't mind that it was made in vanity. Afterall, "hammers" is Greco. I get that its a slice of life portrayal of an ex addict who exists by skating. Didn't like how drawn out some sequences were, though. Maybe it could have been developed a bit more with more narration or different scenarios throughout the film (maybe some classic greco pedestrian argument, romance, or playing music in a band). He felt like too much of a lone ranger with the exception of klein & ron.
At least he flashed a smile for once around the 17:55 mark. The part with the song shivers was prob my fav.
Not sure how it'd work (mixing a plot with traditional skate clips), but I always thought it'd be cool if someone made a "downtown 81" for a skate film.
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Couldn't get through it, had to skip around. I feel like Greco is the kind of guy that would go to a funeral and be like "why y'all crying, I'm still alive".. And what happend to his neck tats?
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Couldn't get through it, had to skip around. I feel like Greco is the kind of guy that would go to a funeral and be like "why y'all crying, I'm still alive".. And what happend to his neck tats?
He went to a really good removal guy within a few months it seems like. I guess it didn't fit his next identity.
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Ah, it is a Greco flick, what did you guys expect, a Michael Bay film without explosions/flags/lame dialog?
I like Greco but dont understand "art", frankly, I dont even know what art is... Still, pretty good for a rookie.
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I had no idea how many people on SLAP were such an authority on Greco's IV drug usage.
"fucking POSER only dabbled in shooting dope!!!!!!!"
Just wondering if anyone had a final count on the number of times he booted up?
Yeeeeeeesh.
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Jeremy Klein is a probable sex tourist who's attitude is somehow derived from one of the worst styles to ever grace pro skateboarding. However that back 3 on the brick qp was superb.
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I thoroughly enjoyed this. Also, I want to live in that loft he lives in. That minimalist/clean setup is my dream. I probably just need to make about 10x as much money as I do now.
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Grecos new addiction is himself.
"I have to give myself credit"� �-Jim Greco
"This is a picture of what the past two years of my life has been like" Proceeds to skate around with Jeremy Klein. Then sits around in contemplation. Meditates while eating pizza. Goes home. Dramatic sit behind the door in contemplation. Is he saying being sober for 12 years and skating all day sucks? After 12 years sober you'd think this would be normal now and he would't feel the need to bring it up again. I get that he may feel urges to fall back to his old ways from time to time but damn. I laughed when he slammed on brakes in what I suppose was frustration? I just don't see the point of it besides Greco being Greco and wanting attention combined with the fact that every pro skater thinks they're an artist.
The impression I got towards the end was that skating was always what he did to keep his mind off smack, and as his career winds down, he doesn't know how to cope with the cravings. I'm probably totally wrong, though. With that being said, I dug this. As I grow older and skating seemingly gets blander, I appreciate any weirdo who strays from the norm (especially when they're fakie 360 flipping tables at 38). Great music, too.
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Thought it was good overall, something different which is always nice. Skating was good. Yes the JK 360 was regular, cool to see those dudes still skating together all these years later and doing similar things within their companies.
Congrats on 12 years Sobriety
EDIT: Where the switch f/s flip at Jim?
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it was pretentious as fuck but i lapped it up. klien's backside 360 ollie on those la banks made me forget all about bad hook-ups graphics...
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This was cute.
(http://i.imgur.com/iywK4Gw.png)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC_PACr5cT8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC_PACr5cT8#)
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This was cute.
(http://i.imgur.com/iywK4Gw.png)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC_PACr5cT8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC_PACr5cT8#)
fuck yes.
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Im always baffled at how quick people are to assume a project is a work of vanity. The guy has demons and wants to express himself. This is EVERY artist. He could have written a narrative based on him with another actor but he kept it brave and wanted to make a statement. Ive heard from many different artists that art is all about the process. The first step to relapse is boredom so why not keep busy and make art?
anyone else know anything about Grec's relationship with any of the baker boys companies? i was very surprised by the lack of support on social media from anyone on Baker or Deathwish. Thought for sure this would have been posted every where but I just keep seeing more TF footy on peoples pages.
did Grec's shun himself from the industry?
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This was cute.
(http://i.imgur.com/iywK4Gw.png)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC_PACr5cT8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC_PACr5cT8#)
fuck yes.
love that movie. id totally rock one of those terrier hats.
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I really enjoyed that always been a fan of Greco since way back in the baker days. Sure he makes a big deal about himself but it was refreshing and went by quicker than expected. The part that got to me the most was him eating pizza alone, I really connected with him through that shot.
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Interview: http://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/jim-greco-s-hammers-interview/ (http://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/jim-greco-s-hammers-interview/)
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Im always baffled at how quick people are to assume a project is a work of vanity. The guy has demons and wants to express himself. This is EVERY artist. He could have written a narrative based on him with another actor but he kept it brave and wanted to make a statement. Ive heard from many different artists that art is all about the process. The first step to relapse is boredom so why not keep busy and make art?
anyone else know anything about Grec's relationship with any of the baker boys companies? i was very surprised by the lack of support on social media from anyone on Baker or Deathwish. Thought for sure this would have been posted every where but I just keep seeing more TF footy on peoples pages.
did Grec's shun himself from the industry?
Do you still ride for Deathwish?
Yes, I do. I’ve just been putting a lot of focus on Hammers USA, though. I’m passionate about that. It’s exciting doing the graphics all myself, having them hand screened and making it all 100 percent in the USA. Creating Deathwish with Erik and making Baker with Andrew was really fun. I’m very happy to have great partners and we built a nice distribution business that allows me to create what I want and also allows us to plug in new brands that others create.
Is Hammers USA distributed through Baker Boys?
Yes, it currently is.
Source: http://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/jim-greco-s-hammers-interview/ (http://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/jim-greco-s-hammers-interview/)
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Does Jim Greco fuck prostitutes?
Ain't a thing wrong with prostitutes.
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The guy has demons and wants to express himself. This is EVERY artist.
Ive heard from many different artists that art is all about the process.
You sound like a guy who knows a lot about art.
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I would have loved this if it was made by anyone other than Jim.
Not crediting Joey Sinko as a director is immoral and the grossest part of all of this.
Being sober for 12 years and still making it the center of your life is pathetic.
JK and JG look like miserable people and managed to make skating look unfun.
"I just landed a trick, I better not smile and keep mean mugging the world."
(http://www.thrashermagazine.com/images/image/Features/2016/Greco_Hammers/Greco_12_1500px.jpg)
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The curb cut is California's cellar door.
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(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/570998Capturede769cran20160208a768103629.png)
yeah, this shit
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I would have loved this if it was made by anyone other than Jim.
Not crediting Joey Sinko as a director is immoral and the grossest part of all of this.
Being sober for 12 years and still making it the center of your life is pathetic.
JK and JG look like miserable people and managed to make skating look unfun.
"I just landed a trick, I better not smile and keep mean mugging the world."
(http://www.thrashermagazine.com/images/image/Features/2016/Greco_Hammers/Greco_12_1500px.jpg)
how it is "immoral" when the current director credit is essentially true? No one loves Jim Greco more than Jim Greco. All the lingering shots of posturing and looking gloomy were obviously stuff Greco wanted in the film to evoke a certain mood / aesthetic. It's pretty easy to deduce that Greco got the final word on everything in terms of conceptualization, production, and post-production (aka. privileges bestowed only to a director)
If anything, Sinko could've been given a "producer" credit since he was there every step of the way as far helping Greco to facilitate his singular vision. But as far as sole authorship goes, only one dude could've created such a piece-of-work.
Sure, seeing Jim's name listed 6 times in the end credits is easy to scoff and roll your eyes at. But we're talking about JIM GRECO here - a dude notorious for obsessive micromanagement.
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I liked it. 35mm filming and good skating. Needed a few more old guy cameos to balance out the dramatic "acting" scenes. Good for him for not being fucked up on drugs anymore.
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it works if you work it
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(http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s531/Adamas10/Screen%20Shot%202016-02-09%20at%203.50.52%20PM_zpsomkkc1h8.png) (http://s1304.photobucket.com/user/Adamas10/media/Screen%20Shot%202016-02-09%20at%203.50.52%20PM_zpsomkkc1h8.png.html)
Hopefully they're not biting LE. But seriously that was full of great tricks. I'm looking forward to the probably-inevitable cut of just the skate footage.
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wheres the fucking blow? get high baby
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I would have loved this if it was made by anyone other than Jim.
Not crediting Joey Sinko as a director is immoral and the grossest part of all of this.
Being sober for 12 years and still making it the center of your life is pathetic.
JK and JG look like miserable people and managed to make skating look unfun.
"I just landed a trick, I better not smile and keep mean mugging the world."
how it is "immoral" when the current director credit is essentially true? No one loves Jim Greco more than Jim Greco. All the lingering shots of posturing and looking gloomy were obviously stuff Greco wanted in the film to evoke a certain mood / aesthetic. It's pretty easy to deduce that Greco got the final word on everything in terms of conceptualization, production, and post-production (aka. privileges bestowed only to a director)
If anything, Sinko could've been given a "producer" credit since he was there every step of the way as far helping Greco to facilitate his singular vision. But as far as sole authorship goes, only one dude could've created such a piece-of-work.
Sure, seeing Jim's name listed 6 times in the end credits is easy to scoff and roll your eyes at. But we're talking about JIM GRECO here - a dude notorious for obsessive micromanagement.
Good point. However paying someone to make something for you then taking credit for their work because they made what you wanted is shady af. One guy is a director with an IMDB page full of skater documentaries, the other is a pro skater.
It's like me paying someone to build me a house, I tell them the specifics of what I want, they build it. I tell them I wanted the kids room pink, they repaint it pink. I put a sign in my yard letting everyone know I built this house. Oh look, I hired a guy to build me a house, I must be an architect!
that said. I really liked this video, I just wish it didn't make me dislike JG and JK.
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Do the people saying that its lame that he made a film portraying what he wants to show about himself to people think this is lame too?, it's a pretty common theme in any art form, and he put it out there for free on top of that
(http://www.nga.gov/content/ngaweb/education/teachers/lessons-activities/self-portraits/van-gogh/jcr%3Acontent/parmain/textimage/image.img.jpg/1404756844333.jpg)
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Mona Lisa - "I painted this!"
(http://www.davincilife.com/mona-lisa.jpg)
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I like some of the guy's tricks but come on this fucking poor me shit is kook... Every one of those bums they filmed lives a struggle he'll never know. His job is to skateboard and he acts like this? Got it made homie...
And this shit, jesus what a fuck.
Meet the Supra Team (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnv70RhU-_8#)
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Anyone remember that episode of Family Ties, where Alex bought a "Picardo" thinking it was a Picasso?
Picardo.
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Do the people saying that its lame that he made a film portraying what he wants to show about himself to people think this is lame too?, it's a pretty common theme in any art form, and he put it out there for free on top of that
(http://www.nga.gov/content/ngaweb/education/teachers/lessons-activities/self-portraits/van-gogh/jcr%3Acontent/parmain/textimage/image.img.jpg/1404756844333.jpg)
Good point lol
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Do the people saying that its lame that he made a film portraying what he wants to show about himself to people think this is lame too?, it's a pretty common theme in any art form, and he put it out there for free on top of that
(http://www.nga.gov/content/ngaweb/education/teachers/lessons-activities/self-portraits/van-gogh/jcr%3Acontent/parmain/textimage/image.img.jpg/1404756844333.jpg)
True, and really who is hating on this, only the fuckin' dorks.
Legit Greco and Jeremy Klein footage. Didn't expect this at all, super rad.
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The part that got to me the most was him eating pizza alone, I really connected with him through that shot.
not just any pizza. Pizzanista!
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The part that got to me the most was him eating pizza alone, I really connected with him through that shot.
not just any pizza. Pizzanista!
https://twitter.com/pizzanista/status/697236161773838336
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The part that got to me the most was him eating pizza alone, I really connected with him through that shot.
not just any pizza. Pizzanista!
https://twitter.com/pizzanista/status/697236161773838336
when a pizza company backs you more than your distributor/ friends, which is ok in my books, shit i'ma go find some left overs right now.
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I wish Dennis Booze would film a whole SF part dressed like Greco.
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This video was sincere.
This.
It was great. Few films deal with exposing the emotions that drive us as skateboarders. None I can think of have done it in an artful manner, something beyond an interview or voiceover mixed with tricks.
Jim has a pretty insane story to tell, I thought he did a great job. Honest and sincere.
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holy shit i am not reading through 5 more pages of this after watching that. few things i took away:
1. bellbottoms #TRENDWATCH2K16
2. 12 years or 20 years sober, greco will always look like a drug addict
3. jeremy klein = napolean dynamite except napolean dynamite wouldnt be a baby on social media
4. soundtrack was great
5. im honestly psyched for greco for staying sober so long and still ripping
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I really enjoyed everything about that.
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i just watched the whole thing... Japanese high school girl pigeon toes aside, here are my thoughts (they probably echo what most people are saying)
- did you seriously just make that film about yourself? Don't get me wrong, you're an amazing skater/ I like watching you skate but wtf was that? It's like filming yourself wank; not a pretty sight.
- jeremey klein: I loved you back in the day boy and while your skate footage was great (dat back 360) being a weaboo at 17 and at 42(ish?) are two totally different things. Like most pros I used to like, I wish I'd never heard a word that came out of your mouth.
- The shooting up pic ... why? Aren't you trying to portray that you're straight now? Let that talk for itself, stop bringing up/ idolizing your PD past, it's done, it's over!
- I honestly wonder what his next fashion crisis is gunna be ... and will kids start dressing like their italian uncles now?
- Soundtrack was good although the closing track made it sound like he was dedicating a love song ... to himself!!!
- I couldn't help but sing ♫Greco's so vain he is, almost a mirror♫
- The shot after you came back through the door? Seriously? Like your life is so hard brah. Reality check: at the end of the day you ride a skateboard for a living. Yeah, I get it, you're an ex junkie, doesn't mean you can't enjoy your current life/ what you do for a living.
- That fakie tre over the table doe :o
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i just watched the whole thing... Japanese high school girl pigeon toes aside, here are my thoughts (they probably echo what most people are saying)
- did you seriously just make that film about yourself? Don't get me wrong, you're an amazing skater/ I like watching you skate but wtf was that? It's like filming yourself wank; not a pretty site.
- jeremey klein: I loved you back in the day boy and while your skate footage was great (dat back 360) being a weaboo at 17 and at 42(ish?) are two totally different things. Like most pros I used to like, I wish I'd never heard a word that came out of your mouth.
- The shooting up pic ... why? Aren't you trying to portray that you're straight now? Let that talk for itself, stop bringing up/ idolizing your PD past, it's done, it's over!
- I honestly wonder what his next fashion crisis is gunna be ... and will kids start dressing like their italian uncles now?
- Soundtrack was good although the closing track made it sound like he was dedicating a love song ... to himself!!!
- I couldn't help but sing ♫Greco's so vain he is, almost a mirror♫
- The shot after you came back through the door? Seriously? Like your life is so hard brah. Reality check: at the end of the day you ride a skateboard for a living. Yeah, I get it, you're an ex junkie, doesn't mean you can't enjoy your current life/ what you do for a living.
- That fakie tre over the table doe :o
This. All of this. Also, the "Japanese High School Girl pigeon toes" pic reminded me of the little kid from Freaks and Geeks, there's an episode where he's rocking polyester brown bellbottoms and white shoes but I couldn't find a picture.
His gear now's still better than the Johnny Thunders get up. So fucking corny.
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I'm calling his next identity crises. He'll be some shitty singer-song writer and carry an acoustic guitar everywhere... try to be Dylan, or Van Zandt
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He insists on himself.
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A lot.
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Hmmmm.
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I liked this film. I like Jim Greco. I wouldn't want anyone to make a film about Jim Greco other than Jim Greco.
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I'm calling his next identity crises. He'll be some shitty singer-song writer and carry an acoustic guitar everywhere... try to be Dylan, or Van Zandt
this needs it's own thread.
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I think it needs more shots of him putting shirts on
I'm glad this is so fake because I'd hate for Greco's life to really be that lame
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I would have loved this if it was made by anyone other than Jim.
Not crediting Joey Sinko as a director is immoral and the grossest part of all of this.
Being sober for 12 years and still making it the center of your life is pathetic.
JK and JG look like miserable people and managed to make skating look unfun.
"I just landed a trick, I better not smile and keep mean mugging the world."
how it is "immoral" when the current director credit is essentially true? No one loves Jim Greco more than Jim Greco. All the lingering shots of posturing and looking gloomy were obviously stuff Greco wanted in the film to evoke a certain mood / aesthetic. It's pretty easy to deduce that Greco got the final word on everything in terms of conceptualization, production, and post-production (aka. privileges bestowed only to a director)
If anything, Sinko could've been given a "producer" credit since he was there every step of the way as far helping Greco to facilitate his singular vision. But as far as sole authorship goes, only one dude could've created such a piece-of-work.
Sure, seeing Jim's name listed 6 times in the end credits is easy to scoff and roll your eyes at. But we're talking about JIM GRECO here - a dude notorious for obsessive micromanagement.
Good point. However paying someone to make something for you then taking credit for their work because they made what you wanted is shady af. One guy is a director with an IMDB page full of skater documentaries, the other is a pro skater.
It's like me paying someone to build me a house, I tell them the specifics of what I want, they build it. I tell them I wanted the kids room pink, they repaint it pink. I put a sign in my yard letting everyone know I built this house. Oh look, I hired a guy to build me a house, I must be an architect!
that said. I really liked this video, I just wish it didn't make me dislike JG and JK.
No. It's like you putting a sign up saying you directed the house. Which would be true.
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I think Grecs just needs to get laid
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i just watched the whole thing... Japanese high school girl pigeon toes aside, here are my thoughts (they probably echo what most people are saying)
- did you seriously just make that film about yourself? Don't get me wrong, you're an amazing skater/ I like watching you skate but wtf was that? It's like filming yourself wank; not a pretty site.
- jeremey klein: I loved you back in the day boy and while your skate footage was great (dat back 360) being a weaboo at 17 and at 42(ish?) are two totally different things. Like most pros I used to like, I wish I'd never heard a word that came out of your mouth.
- The shooting up pic ... why? Aren't you trying to portray that you're straight now? Let that talk for itself, stop bringing up/ idolizing your PD past, it's done, it's over!
- I honestly wonder what his next fashion crisis is gunna be ... and will kids start dressing like their italian uncles now?
- Soundtrack was good although the closing track made it sound like he was dedicating a love song ... to himself!!!
- I couldn't help but sing ♫Greco's so vain he is, almost a mirror♫
- The shot after you came back through the door? Seriously? Like your life is so hard brah. Reality check: at the end of the day you ride a skateboard for a living. Yeah, I get it, you're an ex junkie, doesn't mean you can't enjoy your current life/ what you do for a living.
- That fakie tre over the table doe :o
This. All of this. Also, the "Japanese High School Girl pigeon toes" pic reminded me of the little kid from Freaks and Geeks, there's an episode where he's rocking polyester brown bellbottoms and white shoes but I couldn't find a picture.
His gear now's still better than the Johnny Thunders get up. So fucking corny.
I've never liked Greco, just hated his over opinionated self promotion, but this is just a next level, now what I really don't understand is and I think is correct -
He co-owns
Baker
Deathwish
Hammer
Supra
Krew
The distribution for all of this?
So it's not like he's short of cash, why's putting out all this 'I'm so hard done by because I can't take smack anymore, I really love a little bit of smack, I've not done it in 12 years, I really miss it....'
He's clearly got some cash in the bank, no one gives a fuck if he drops off the wagon, his input to skating is pretty much done - I take this as his Jason Lee riding into the sunset part?
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I'm glad this is so fake because I'd hate for Greco's life to really be that lame
Well it is lame enough to make a grandiose documentary about how lame it is. So there's that.
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The fact that this video is so polarizing makes me think Jim succeeded in his vision.
Most great art in my opinion is something that some people should love and some people should absolutely hate.
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This reminds me of the "I, Skateboard" article from Big Brother. I think that's what it was called.
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This reminds me of the "I, Skateboard" article from Big Brother. I think that's what it was called.
I think it was Me, Skateboard hahaha. Even more smarter!
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Around the time Klein showed up, I somewhat grudgingly admitted to myself that I was really enjoying the film
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I can't tell if I want to watch this or not based on the comments. I dislike greco and a lot of his skating but liked his deathwish part. Should I watch this? Is there a way I can only watch the skating?
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I can't tell if I want to watch this or not based on the comments. I dislike greco and a lot of his skating but liked his deathwish part. Should I watch this? Is there a way I can only watch the skating?
of course you should watch it and form your own opinion, friend
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Needed more zero packs.
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I personally cant stand Greco's ego and persona, similar to the Kanye. But you cant say that he doesn't produces quality stuff, similar to Kanye.
I cant lie ive watched it a few times already since it came out. Although there are some things to bash on, The actual skating, music and edit is on point. That Nick Cave song in the beginning has been stuck in my head since I first saw it.
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This reminds me of the "I, Skateboard" article from Big Brother. I think that's what it was called.
I think it was Me, Skateboard hahaha. Even more smarter!
rollerblader hunter & me, skateboard. BIG BROTHER SKATEBOARD MAGAZINE skit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLy-R7sIGwM#)
It is Me, Skateboard. When will O'Dell do a full on doc on Big Brother?
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as a art film i get it.
shows alot of what jims inspired by these days.
good music.
great to see klien. that backside 360 was nice.
as a skateboarding video expecting a new jim greco part loaded with hammers. i was disapointed.
there was skateboarding littered throughout the video. but i only counted 3 hammers.
the trick on the freeway bridge into the bank, the nollie frontside flip down the library, and the 360 boardslide, which had a nice hard slam.
overall, i hope now that this is out of his system he gets more bout that deathwish life again. really felt good seeing that deathwish logo on the library trick.
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as a art film i get it.
shows alot of what jims inspired by these days.
good music.
great to see klien. that backside 360 was nice.
as a skateboarding video expecting a new jim greco part loaded with hammers. i was disapointed.
there was skateboarding littered throughout the video. but i only counted 3 hammers.
the trick on the freeway bridge into the bank, the nollie frontside flip down the library, and the 360 boardslide, which had a nice hard slam.
overall, i hope now that this is out of his system he gets more bout that deathwish life again. really felt good seeing that deathwish logo on the library trick.
The dudes hitting 40 dude, give it a rest already. He doesn't need to skateboard like an extreme daredevil anymore to please you or anyone else for that matter.
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as a art film i get it.
shows alot of what jims inspired by these days.
good music.
great to see klien. that backside 360 was nice.
as a skateboarding video expecting a new jim greco part loaded with hammers. i was disapointed.
there was skateboarding littered throughout the video. but i only counted 3 hammers.
the trick on the freeway bridge into the bank, the nollie frontside flip down the library, and the 360 boardslide, which had a nice hard slam.
overall, i hope now that this is out of his system he gets more bout that deathwish life again. really felt good seeing that deathwish logo on the library trick.
The dudes hitting 40 dude, give it a rest already. He doesn't need to skateboard like an extreme daredevil anymore to please you or anyone else for that matter.
he has to switch frontside flip hollywood 16 before he dies atleast!!!
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There were two artistic moments filming birds, which I took as a allusion to the no "gay bird moment" baker thing. Maybe reading too much into it ha.
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I don't get why it's taken so long for a skate video to be done like this. I would love to see skateboard videos more like movies. This was way better than We are Blood thats for sure. I wish they didn't cut out the bs 180 fakie 5050 on the downhill red curb.
I'd like to see more of this kind of stuff too. Those old Girl and Chocolate videos had skits but that was different. This was more of a unified short movie. I think it would be cheesy if there was too much of a narrative, like if they actually wrote a script. But I'd love to see more videos of skating mixed in with daily life and other scenes. It wasn't just neatly edited parts full of tricks lined up to songs. It was all different stuff bleeding together.
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Those old Girl and Chocolate videos had skits but that was different.
Yes. They were directed by Spike Jonze.
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I don't get why it's taken so long for a skate video to be done like this. I would love to see skateboard videos more like movies. This was way better than We are Blood thats for sure. I wish they didn't cut out the bs 180 fakie 5050 on the downhill red curb.
I'd like to see more of this kind of stuff too. Those old Girl and Chocolate videos had skits but that was different. This was more of a unified short movie. I think it would be cheesy if there was too much of a narrative, like if they actually wrote a script. But I'd love to see more videos of skating mixed in with daily life and other scenes. It wasn't just neatly edited parts full of tricks lined up to songs. It was all different stuff bleeding together.
The problem is a lot of our favorite pros are probably kooks obsessed with "the gram" and don't care about making something creative or different. Can you imagine a video like this but with Fred Gall, working in his screen print studio with Quim Cardona and they go cruise around and skate? Even the pro's in LA where tons of movies are filmed...there are so many places and ideas to come up with to make a fictional short film within your skate video, its crazy no one touches it.
I always think about how skateboarding has accidentally filmed street culture for almost 40 years or so...We are like some sort of urban anthropologists...but videos are all about tricks (because we're all jocks now), spots, and music. There is so much more cool shit that can be done, people are lazy or have just accepted the way it is, and continue to add to it. More day in the life stuff with a twist of fiction would be awesome...
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I don't get why it's taken so long for a skate video to be done like this. I would love to see skateboard videos more like movies. This was way better than We are Blood thats for sure. I wish they didn't cut out the bs 180 fakie 5050 on the downhill red curb.
I'd like to see more of this kind of stuff too. Those old Girl and Chocolate videos had skits but that was different. This was more of a unified short movie. I think it would be cheesy if there was too much of a narrative, like if they actually wrote a script. But I'd love to see more videos of skating mixed in with daily life and other scenes. It wasn't just neatly edited parts full of tricks lined up to songs. It was all different stuff bleeding together.
The problem is a lot of our favorite pros are probably kooks obsessed with "the gram" and don't care about making something creative or different. Can you imagine a video like this but with Fred Gall, working in his screen print studio with Quim Cardona and they go cruise around and skate? Even the pro's in LA where tons of movies are filmed...there are so many places and ideas to come up with to make a fictional short film within your skate video, its crazy no one touches it.
I always think about how skateboarding has accidentally filmed street culture for almost 40 years or so...We are like some sort of urban anthropologists...but videos are all about tricks (because we're all jocks now), spots, and music. There is so much more cool shit that can be done, people are lazy or have just accepted the way it is, and continue to add to it. More day in the life stuff with a twist of fiction would be awesome...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YqG68-JZi8# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YqG68-JZi8#)
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I don't get why it's taken so long for a skate video to be done like this. I would love to see skateboard videos more like movies. This was way better than We are Blood thats for sure. I wish they didn't cut out the bs 180 fakie 5050 on the downhill red curb.
I'd like to see more of this kind of stuff too. Those old Girl and Chocolate videos had skits but that was different. This was more of a unified short movie. I think it would be cheesy if there was too much of a narrative, like if they actually wrote a script. But I'd love to see more videos of skating mixed in with daily life and other scenes. It wasn't just neatly edited parts full of tricks lined up to songs. It was all different stuff bleeding together.
The problem is a lot of our favorite pros are probably kooks obsessed with "the gram" and don't care about making something creative or different. Can you imagine a video like this but with Fred Gall, working in his screen print studio with Quim Cardona and they go cruise around and skate? Even the pro's in LA where tons of movies are filmed...there are so many places and ideas to come up with to make a fictional short film within your skate video, its crazy no one touches it.
I always think about how skateboarding has accidentally filmed street culture for almost 40 years or so...We are like some sort of urban anthropologists...but videos are all about tricks (because we're all jocks now), spots, and music. There is so much more cool shit that can be done, people are lazy or have just accepted the way it is, and continue to add to it. More day in the life stuff with a twist of fiction would be awesome...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YqG68-JZi8# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YqG68-JZi8#)
Hahaha yup anything but this...way too Nickelodeon...Guys are saying in this thread, this video has some Martin Scorsese influence how about some Quentin Tarantino or even Alfred Hitchcock inspired skits for once.
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loved it. youtube era skate media is in my opinion too loud, busy, ADHD, disposable. this REALLY stood out with the prolonged silences, color palette, everything.
i'm way more interested in something really original getting made by a narcissist than something instantly forgettable being made by employees of orthodox companies, but to each his own.
even though it's the opposite in terms of style [valuation of brevity, etc.] is anyone else getting major Raymond Carver vibes from the 'theme' [that while depressing, living an ordinary, everyday existing is also noble]?
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I didn't read the whole thread but is there an edit of just the skate footage?
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watched it during lunch at work, had to fast forward through most of the beginning due to time constraints.
definitely something different, unique. i think someone already said it but does grecs want to be vincent gallo?
either way it was enjoyable and worth a watch.
made me want to fakie tre something
still love baker2g the most...
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I kind of dug the vibe of the non skate shots. It made Los Angeles seems like a really strange and lonely place.
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The fact that this video is so polarizing makes me think Jim succeeded in his vision.
Most great art in my opinion is something that some people should love and some people should absolutely hate.
This is true I guess. Magenta polarizes people too but I love them and I hate this.
Having said that I'll defend Jim's skating to the end and have no doubts that his next "actual" part is gunna be off the hook/ will shut up the haters. Hell I even argued with tonnes of people on here about whether or not his ender in deathwish was "legit" or not.
I guess at the end of the day, and like most other pros, I love him as a skater but cringe at any thing else he does.
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no one else has really touched on it yet, but that nollie backside flip was one of the best he's ever done!
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I was thinking...Andrew have this thing with music that actually looks like a hella lot of fun
THE GOAT & The Occasional Others "Billy" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naDgv8ijyN0#)
Like it or not The Goat are just a bunch of friends playing loud and HAVING FUN. Greco is REALLY into music; he have a bunch of wonderful guitars and uniques amplifiers. With that gear you can have a lot of fun with another friends but Greco never ever had a band or even jam with others.
I dont know...doesnt make sense to me.
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I didn't read the whole thread but is there an edit of just the skate footage?
Here it is:
Tap Dancing Granny - 3 Senior Citizens Tap Dance on Stage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgPgD04uzWo#)
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I was thinking...Andrew have this thing with music that actually looks like a hella lot of fun
THE GOAT & The Occasional Others "Billy" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naDgv8ijyN0#)
Like it or not The Goat are just a bunch of friends playing loud and HAVING FUN. Greco is REALLY into music; he have a bunch of wonderful guitars and uniques amplifiers. With that gear you can have a lot of fun with another friends but Greco never ever had a band or even jam with others.
I dont know...doesnt make sense to me.
JIM GRECO "Spots" Live (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LK5k2g9bQ4&ab_channel=secretagentmusic#)
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I was thinking...Andrew have this thing with music that actually looks like a hella lot of fun
THE GOAT & The Occasional Others "Billy" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naDgv8ijyN0#)
Like it or not The Goat are just a bunch of friends playing loud and HAVING FUN. Greco is REALLY into music; he have a bunch of wonderful guitars and uniques amplifiers. With that gear you can have a lot of fun with another friends but Greco never ever had a band or even jam with others.
I dont know...doesnt make sense to me.
Thank you sir; that was super cool. So...Greco needs to do some music cause make music is such a great feeling. 8)
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That was...weird, but I dig it, and I back Greco 100% with his sobriety and everything. And JEREMY KLIEN FUCK YES
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I'm calling his next identity crises. He'll be some shitty singer-song writer and carry an acoustic guitar everywhere... try to be Dylan, or Van Zandt
I'm guessing spiritual guru but let's revisit this once it happens.
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I finally got around to watching this and it was pretty great, although the wheat to chaff ratio is likely to dissuade future viewings.
The one thing I kept getting reminded of was my late 70's/early 80's class pictures. Sometimes the look is more "Starsky and Hutch Snitch" but when you add the sneakers I keep getting the vibe of Montessori picture day.
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that was sooooo Jim Greco
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I think Uncle Jesse and Netflix saw the Greco film and got inspired "Stamos: A Human, Being" - Trailer - Netflix (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGUkiuXhAzE#)
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I think Uncle Jesse and Netflix saw the Greco film and got inspired "Stamos: A Human, Being" - Trailer - Netflix (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGUkiuXhAzE#)
That was embarrassing to watch, Stamos will always/only be that guy from Full House. This has to be an April fools joke.