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Title: Never seen anything like this
Post by: excitableboy on May 24, 2016, 09:54:01 AM
ABP?

This is incredible. Who is it?

http://www.instagram.com/p/BFyP74XMLK9/?taken-by=muckmouth (http://www.instagram.com/p/BFyP74XMLK9/?taken-by=muckmouth)
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Baron Samedi on May 24, 2016, 10:14:22 AM
Jesus. I agree, never seen anything like it.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Gil on May 24, 2016, 10:20:26 AM
Damn, he beat Rodney to it.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: shit_for_brains on May 24, 2016, 10:25:39 AM
I feel like he's breaking my brain. That doesn't make any sense. He killed the concept of having a stance.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: ill_Murray on May 24, 2016, 10:28:25 AM
Just another Venice dick head dropping in on someone else's run. 

He skates real nice though. 
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: RCB3 on May 24, 2016, 10:31:01 AM
I usually prepare my for disappointment when people title threads with big claims, but I'm quite baffled by this as well.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: doyle on May 24, 2016, 10:37:53 AM
according to his instagram his name is leandre sanders and he's regular
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: wallieD on May 24, 2016, 10:51:50 AM
damn, he's like the bigfoot of skateboarding
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: MintySandwhich on May 24, 2016, 11:03:01 AM
Jesus christ

-switch tre
-switch back nosegrind on tranny
-switch backside nosegrabs
-switch roll ins

and it all looks like his regular stance
damn
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: shred42O on May 24, 2016, 11:04:20 AM
according to his instagram his name is leandre sanders and he's regular

Seen this kid around for awhile, He has always skated tranny in one stance and street in another and has slowly been mixing it.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: frig deuce on May 24, 2016, 11:16:26 AM
he's goofy.

https://www.instagram.com/lowkeyleelee_/ (https://www.instagram.com/lowkeyleelee_/)

yall are dumb and crazy to think he's reg.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: maxwellkeeper on May 24, 2016, 11:31:08 AM
I have a friend that is goofy footed but can only skate transition switch. I'm pretty sure thats the case with this guy.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: wallieD on May 24, 2016, 11:36:50 AM
he's goofy.

https://www.instagram.com/lowkeyleelee_/ (https://www.instagram.com/lowkeyleelee_/)

yall are dumb and crazy to think he's reg.

I have a friend that is goofy footed but can only skate transition switch. I'm pretty sure thats the case with this guy.
https://www.instagram.com/p/9n04XJzSNd/?taken-by=lowkeyleelee_ (https://www.instagram.com/p/9n04XJzSNd/?taken-by=lowkeyleelee_)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BFAmP7xTSMz/?taken-by=lowkeyleelee_ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BFAmP7xTSMz/?taken-by=lowkeyleelee_)
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: straight on May 24, 2016, 11:52:55 AM
dude did couple switch flips, couple backside airs, 360 flip. what am i missing here?
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Piri-piri on May 24, 2016, 12:08:24 PM
dude did couple switch flips, couple backside airs, 360 flip. what am i missing here?

A brain?
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: RCB3 on May 24, 2016, 12:11:18 PM
dude did couple switch flips, couple backside airs, 360 flip. what am i missing here?

https://www.instagram.com/p/9n04XJzSNd/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/9n04XJzSNd/)

Does this shit look switch to you???
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: weaselhead on May 24, 2016, 12:15:02 PM
I was talking to a friend about something similar to this...I think skating is headed in a direction where you're going to see people honing in on the way they ride a board, like trying to make a nollie nose manual look like a fakie ollie fakie manual and so on, and getting really fine tuned with body postures...It's fun to try and do and it's really challenging
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: straight on May 24, 2016, 12:25:08 PM
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dude did couple switch flips, couple backside airs, 360 flip. what am i missing here?
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https://www.instagram.com/p/9n04XJzSNd/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/9n04XJzSNd/)

Does this shit look switch to you???

are you really gonna argue that he's not goofy?
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Chicken in a Can on May 24, 2016, 12:25:57 PM
I was talking to a friend about something similar to this...I think skating is headed in a direction where you're going to see people honing in on the way they ride a board, like trying to make a nollie nose manual look like a fakie ollie fakie manual and so on, and getting really fine tuned with body postures...It's fun to try and do and it's really challenging

Ellington's nollie flips look like fakie flips.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Rafiki on May 24, 2016, 12:28:06 PM
Impressive
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: LesbianPUNCH on May 24, 2016, 01:27:52 PM
 Definitely goofy huh?

https://instagram.com/p/5O28JmzSLK/

You sure?

https://instagram.com/p/1E-UgDTSKw/

Positive?

https://instagram.com/p/BEKaM0XTSIW/

I dunno...
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: RCB3 on May 24, 2016, 01:31:47 PM
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dude did couple switch flips, couple backside airs, 360 flip. what am i missing here?
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https://www.instagram.com/p/9n04XJzSNd/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/9n04XJzSNd/)

Does this shit look switch to you???
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are you really gonna argue that he's not goofy?

I'm not arguing that he's not goofy. I'm showing how his switch skating looks like the most casual thing I've ever seen. If you're not impressed by how nonchalant his switch style is, I feel sad for you.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: EARL***THE***PEARL on May 24, 2016, 01:37:24 PM
The nose bonk-nollie bigspin is a dead give-away that he's regular.


That being said that's gotta be the most comfortable dexterity I've ever seen does this dude have street parts???
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: excitableboy on May 24, 2016, 01:58:57 PM
The nose bonk-nollie bigspin is a dead give-away that he's regular.


That being said that's gotta be the most comfortable dexterity I've ever seen does this dude have street parts???
Same could be said for the back nosegrind and bs 180 nosegrind on tranny, or the backside ollies. I for one thought he was goofy. The fact we genuinely can debate this is testament to this guy's ability. A freak of nature.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Noble Experiment on May 24, 2016, 02:17:23 PM
dude did couple switch flips, couple backside airs, 360 flip. what am i missing here?
If this isn't a sign that the constant overflow of footage being put out on YouTube and instagram everyday has desensitized people to the point where nothing is amazing anymore cuz there's just too much of it, then I don't know what is.
I really don't get how anyone wouldn't find his skating amazing. I have a good feeling this dude is gonna blow up soon.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: watershed on May 24, 2016, 02:29:12 PM
adam mcnatt and sean sheffey used to turn there shoulders on regular and lean forward on switch to give the appearance they skated the other way. was pretty cool
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: guest1234 on May 24, 2016, 02:46:44 PM
I honestly thought this was fake on first viewing, like they just flipped the video in editing.  It just seems almost too smooth when he is going switch or regular or whatever.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Collegiate Fool on May 24, 2016, 02:50:04 PM
Recently started skating Venice a lot and this dude is there every day. Blew my fuckin mind the first time I saw him. He was doing handplants and back smiths in the bowl regular, the moved straight to snake run and started flying around goofy, turning around, and blasting kickflips over the bumps regular. Completely fucked and probably the sickest thing I've seen in real life.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Monkey_Mcpott on May 24, 2016, 03:04:23 PM
Saw this on instagram the other day and was completely blown away. This is definitely something I've never seen before specially in transition. The closest I've seen to anything like this is Brian Peacock but even he isn't this confusing.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: CRAILFISH TO REVERT on May 24, 2016, 03:15:27 PM
he's both
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Budo on May 24, 2016, 03:19:53 PM
I feel like I am really good at reading weather or not someone is skating switch, but that was the first time I had no clue.  Fuck yeah.

I remember reading an article talking about Van Wastell trying to make his BS 50-50s look switch.  That was cool.

Anyways, there is a dude in a neighboring town who only skates tranny switch as well and I always thought that was some weird bullshit, but I guess he isn't alone.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on May 24, 2016, 03:46:30 PM
From the fakie noseblunt I figured he was regs.  I'm a fan!
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: palenimbus on May 24, 2016, 04:22:46 PM
Here's a documentary he made about himself:

https://vimeo.com/99768647
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: too much on May 24, 2016, 04:57:14 PM
Definitely goofy huh?

https://instagram.com/p/5O28JmzSLK/

You sure?

https://instagram.com/p/1E-UgDTSKw/

Positive?

https://instagram.com/p/BEKaM0XTSIW/

I dunno...

I definitely think he's goofy...he made his sw flips looks regular...that's about it...but the first link, if he's goofy those are some crazy sw tricks. Quickly scrolling through his IG he doesn't have regular footed airs.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Yushin Okami on May 24, 2016, 05:01:01 PM
This clip tells me he's goofy but dude is wild

https://www.instagram.com/p/BFf4a8WTSDl/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BFf4a8WTSDl/)
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Monkey_Mcpott on May 24, 2016, 05:05:39 PM
This clip tells me he's goofy but dude is wild

https://www.instagram.com/p/BFf4a8WTSDl/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BFf4a8WTSDl/)

Its so crazy analyzing his skating, he riding the board like he's regular but is skating like he's goofy. The regular kickflip over the hip then followed by the goofy skating trips me out. He also rips the street course regular.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: excitableboy on May 24, 2016, 05:30:18 PM
Yeah definitely goofy. Kid's going to change the game I think. This is rather exciting.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: LifeHammered on May 24, 2016, 05:31:45 PM
I am in no way trying to take anything away from his skating, but it does seem when he is skating goofy he is purposely trying to make it look switch and vis versa. 98% of the time when people do that I fucking hate it but this dude gets a pass in my book
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: excitableboy on May 24, 2016, 05:44:08 PM
I am in no way trying to take anything away from his skating, but it does seem when he is skating goofy he is purposely trying to make it look switch and vis versa. 98% of the time when people do that I fucking hate it but this dude gets a pass in my book
Noticed that as well, like he deliberately plays around with it. Like this 'kickflip the hip':

http://www.instagram.com/p/BFy_srkTSLY/?taken-by=lowkeyleelee_ (http://www.instagram.com/p/BFy_srkTSLY/?taken-by=lowkeyleelee_)

Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: essal on May 24, 2016, 05:59:56 PM
i think he is goofy but he is fucking good
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: wallieD on May 24, 2016, 06:38:39 PM
Here's a documentary he made about himself:

https://vimeo.com/99768647
kind of over the top but it said written... and directed by van alpert lol...probably helping a friend out

he's skating goofy in this video... does the hill bomb goofy @ 13. i thought he was regular. this kid is amazing though. fuck keelan we have a new switch god now
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: frig deuce on May 24, 2016, 07:01:51 PM
I just had a long talk with my gf about this (we're both psychology geeks), because I'm kind of dumbfounded by this dude...

On one side literally, when he's skating goofy, he rips transition and does gnarly tre's over shit (rails, table tops, bump to bars), and it looks fluent, like he's naturally goofy footed.

Then on the other hand, when he skates regular, it also looks fluent (though to be honest he looks minimally more rigid in a regular stance than in goofy). He does regular kickflip front nosegrinds, kickflip front lips, etc...

A couple more people in this thread alluded to other local skaters they know of who are ambidextrous like this dude... who skate transition in one stance, and street in an other.

What's mind blowing is that I've never seen anything like this, practically no one else has.

We might be seeing a new breed of skating... or not, he might just be a total outlier and anomaly for ever...

...still mind boggling.

I personally think he's more fluent skating goofy, it's obvious when he skates tranny. I think his natural stance is goofy and his switch stance is regular, even though he does regular kickflip fs nosegrinds and kf fs lips in regular... his goofy stance is way more fluid.

You just can't become incredibly good at transition in switch, but you can become incredibly good at street in switch. That's why I believe he's really goofy footed
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: GOKU on May 24, 2016, 07:26:07 PM

You just can't become incredibly good at transition in switch, but you can become incredibly good at street in switch. That's why I believe he's really goofy footed


(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/84/What_About_Bob_film.jpg)
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: deluxxxe on May 24, 2016, 08:20:46 PM
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You just can't become incredibly good at transition in switch, but you can become incredibly good at street in switch. That's why I believe he's really goofy footed

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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/84/What_About_Bob_film.jpg)

hahahaha fuck. thats the end of the thread for me. i no longer care if this kid is regular or goofy.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: L33Tg33k on May 24, 2016, 09:31:48 PM
Goofy. First video posted had me thinking he was regular after several views, then I watched the rest of his videos and am pretty confident he's goofy. This is the first time I genuinely couldn't tell for a long time and after multiple views. Still not absolutely sure. Amazing, but skaters with this level of comfort in any stance was just a matter of time anyway.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on May 24, 2016, 10:13:55 PM
when he goes up to the platform on the first line, he pushes along regular, then jumps around to goofy, leading me to believe that he's regular. Also, his fakie flips look like fakie flips when he's doing them regular stance.
He's definitely super rad though.
Didn't guy once say he could only do switch 360 flips so in his mind that basically was just how he did 360 flips?
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: doyle on May 24, 2016, 10:36:41 PM
i said he was regular earlier because of this comment he made:

(http://i.imgur.com/7SfCEvT.jpg)

seems to be the strange thing where some people skate regular and snowboard goofy (like jed anderson) but a more extreme case where he's more comfortable skating tranny switch.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: too much on May 24, 2016, 11:10:34 PM
i said he was regular earlier because of this comment he made:

(http://i.imgur.com/7SfCEvT.jpg)

seems to be the strange thing where some people skate regular and snowboard goofy (like jed anderson) but a more extreme case where he's more comfortable skating tranny switch.

He's blasting huge crail grabs switch then at venice...it doesn't make sense that him or his filmer/photographer is not claiming switch...if that is the case he'll melt minds once he gets his trick selection really gangster.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Nanda Zinger on May 25, 2016, 12:12:39 AM
I can't even remember the last time a new cat hit the scene and got me to watch
Iike every clip he has online. Dude is crazy with it.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: shouldn't on May 25, 2016, 01:57:10 AM
dude did couple switch flips, couple backside airs, 360 flip. what am i missing here?
kook.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: shouldn't on May 25, 2016, 02:16:26 AM
if he's regular then he's airing out 4-5 feet switch, switch bs smiths on tranny, sw bs 180 nosegrind out of the tranny, switch 360 flipping pyramids, switch body jars and sw bs nosegrinds on tranny all fluent and with ease. if he's goofy then he's switch flip FRONT nosegrinding outledges like nothing, switch flip FRONT lipping rails,  switch nose bonk bigspin, switch flipping over coping and so on. when he does half cabs or fakie noseblunts you people are calling those regs? anyone who acts like his stance is easy to pinpoint is a complete fucking idiot. this dude is seriously the truth. thanks for the post. wow!!!!
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: andocom on May 25, 2016, 02:35:49 AM
The most confusing thing is why has he just come to the attention of slap, that's prolly the most impressive park cruising I have seen and no seems to have seen him previously unless they localize that park, is he hooked up by anyone, I saw a shakejunt hashtag?
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: shit_for_brains on May 25, 2016, 04:38:07 AM
The most confusing thing is why has he just come to the attention of slap, that's prolly the most impressive park cruising I have seen and no seems to have seen him previously unless they localize that park, is he hooked up by anyone, I saw a shakejunt hashtag?

That's (a small part of) what gets me. He looks like he's... I don't know 17-20? How is he that good and unknown for the most part? He lists adidas on his IG but seems to wear whatever.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Willie on May 25, 2016, 07:10:06 AM
I know a kid who changed stances sometime in his early teens and can do a lot of switch tricks that look like his normal stance.


I was sure this guy was goofy although the wonky way he landed the frontside ollie and the way his head was looking forward on the noseblunt makes me believe that yeah, maybe he started as a regular footer.


Dude is sick either way and I'd basically call his style ambidextrous. Which begs the question, do you give up switch credit in such a case or if you're doing most stuff "switch" does that make it your primary stance?
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Noble Experiment on May 25, 2016, 07:14:26 AM
I seriously think that unless this dude does something to totally blow it (drugs, burns bridges with the industry, etc) that he's gonna be the next big thing/future legend in the making. Everyone is always talking about who the next Duffy/Penny is going to be for this current new generation (a skater that just randomly comes onto the scene out of nowhere and just blows everyone away), and with how oversaturated skateboard media has become in the 2010s, it's come to the point where almost everything that comes out doesn't seem mind blowing anymore, even the craziest shit kinda just blends in with every other web clip at this rate; a skater releases some crazy shit, gets praised for a bit but then their footage gets forgotten about a week later.  Because of this no ONE skater truly stands out out of the group of top dudes at the moment with having that special "it" factor.  Maybe Luan at the moment?  Maybe? But even that's questionable. In a time when nothing seems shocking anymore, this dude comes out of nowhere and has already boggled minds right off the bat and has eye brows raised and people confused as to what stance he is.  People are already saying that they have not seen anything like this before. Ive already shared his clips with a bunch of people and they're speechless as to what they had just seen. I seriously think that this dude is the next big thing, provided that he doesn't fuck up somehow and that he gets picked up by companies that know how to put him out there.
Or I could be wrong, and this dude will fade into obscurity in a few months, but who knows. Guess we'll see.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: jomeara1 on May 25, 2016, 07:15:48 AM
That was the smoothest sex change I've ever seen.  
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: excitableboy on May 25, 2016, 08:16:31 AM
I know a kid who changed stances sometime in his early teens and can do a lot of switch tricks that look like his normal stance.


I was sure this guy was goofy although the wonky way he landed the frontside ollie and the way his head was looking forward on the noseblunt makes me believe that yeah, maybe he started as a regular footer.


Dude is sick either way and I'd basically call his style ambidextrous. Which begs the question, do you give up switch credit in such a case or if you're doing most stuff "switch" does that make it your primary stance?
This is definitely a switch front feeble I would say

http://www.instagram.com/p/BFSjHfJTSIT/?taken-by=lowkeyleelee_ (http://www.instagram.com/p/BFSjHfJTSIT/?taken-by=lowkeyleelee_)

I seriously think that unless this dude does something to totally blow it (drugs, burns bridges with the industry, etc) that he's gonna be the next big thing/future legend in the making. Everyone is always talking about who the next Duffy/Penny is going to be for this current new generation (a skater that just randomly comes onto the scene out of nowhere and just blows everyone away), and with how oversaturated skateboard media has become in the 2010s, it's come to the point where almost everything that comes out doesn't seem mind blowing anymore, even the craziest shit kinda just blends in with every other web clip at this rate; a skater releases some crazy shit, gets praised for a bit but then their footage gets forgotten about a week later.  Because of this no ONE skater truly stands out out of the group of top dudes at the moment with having that special "it" factor.  Maybe Luan at the moment?  Maybe? But even that's questionable. In a time when nothing seems shocking anymore, this dude comes out of nowhere and has already boggled minds right off the bat and has eye brows raised and people confused as to what stance he is.  People are already saying that they have not seen anything like this before. Ive already shared his clips with a bunch of people and they're speechless as to what they had just seen. I seriously think that this dude is the next big thing, provided that he doesn't fuck up somehow and that he gets picked up by companies that know how to put him out there.
Or I could be wrong, and this dude will fade into obscurity in a few months, but who knows. Guess we'll see.


I agree. Remember that park line clip Ishod came on the scene with? This feels like that.




Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Logan Lewis on May 25, 2016, 09:46:10 AM
i have a friend who when learning to skate at a park was told by the guy teaching him to drop in EXACTLY the way he did it.. which was opposite of his actual stance... now he skates tranny regular and street goofy
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: CRAILFISH TO REVERT on May 25, 2016, 09:47:21 AM
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I know a kid who changed stances sometime in his early teens and can do a lot of switch tricks that look like his normal stance.


I was sure this guy was goofy although the wonky way he landed the frontside ollie and the way his head was looking forward on the noseblunt makes me believe that yeah, maybe he started as a regular footer.


Dude is sick either way and I'd basically call his style ambidextrous. Which begs the question, do you give up switch credit in such a case or if you're doing most stuff "switch" does that make it your primary stance?
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This is definitely a switch front feeble I would say


..unless he's going to fakie.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: happenstance on May 25, 2016, 09:57:33 AM
I have a friend who snowboards in his opposite stance from skating. He is amazing at fakie stuff and it looks nollie (facing forward). He bombs hills and powerslides totally comfortable in both stances.

If anyone remembers Kevin Davis (was on Osiris toward the end of the Storm era), he started skating regular for his first few years and then switched to goofy. I remember people referring to him as the first truly ambidextrous skater. Seems like a stretch these days, but I felt it was pretty accurate at the time:

Kevin Davis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQjGVloHLeM#)
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Badmeaningood on May 25, 2016, 10:35:17 AM
Boulala was the same. Started skating regs when he was a little kid, gave up for a year or two and came back goofy.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Tracer on May 25, 2016, 10:40:59 AM
You dudes are weird... Guy did a little park line settle down
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: excitableboy on May 25, 2016, 11:39:33 AM
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I know a kid who changed stances sometime in his early teens and can do a lot of switch tricks that look like his normal stance.


I was sure this guy was goofy although the wonky way he landed the frontside ollie and the way his head was looking forward on the noseblunt makes me believe that yeah, maybe he started as a regular footer.


Dude is sick either way and I'd basically call his style ambidextrous. Which begs the question, do you give up switch credit in such a case or if you're doing most stuff "switch" does that make it your primary stance?
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This is definitely a switch front feeble I would say

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..unless he's going to fakie.
Yes of course, it could be natural stance if it is, i'm just assuming it isn't as it looks very switch even if he does go fakie. But with that trick you could probably tell the difference if he did it goofy and regular to forward.

A friend of mine also started out regular and turned out to be goofy. Happens quite a bit I think. But like with Boulala and that Kevin Davis, you can always tell. No one has even really tried to go for what this guy seems to be pulling off. Well Rodney I guess, and in a way he did succeed in looking goofy every which way he went. But this is something else. I think the enthusiasm is called for.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: GOKU on May 25, 2016, 03:06:08 PM
I have a friend with a very ambiguous stance, some of you Boston cats may know him. His name's Clancy. I've seen him bomb BIG hills goofy foot, but skating flat he's pretty much regular footed.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: botefdunn on May 25, 2016, 03:20:10 PM
Looks regular to me, both in stance and natural ability. Looks like he's put in a lot of time at the park though, and he's fun to watch, good ideas and understanding. Whoever said Sheffey, that occurred to me too, which I mean as a compliment.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Kolostrum on May 25, 2016, 04:41:23 PM
Dude's regular or started out that way at least. You can tell by how he holds his shoulders in goofy stance, and also b/c the original post shows him change from regular to goofy with a mongo push. Think about that. No does that going switchstance to regular, that would just be blatant mongo.

He is clearly more comfortable skating tranny goofy though, however this is nothing new. I've known a few people like this, and some posters have already alluded to this. Hell Justin Bieber only skates mini ramps regular but does flatground tricks goofy. I also think sammy baptista had the same affliction.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: AitchBeeGayBuh on May 25, 2016, 05:05:17 PM
I have a friend who snowboards in his opposite stance from skating. He is amazing at fakie stuff and it looks nollie (facing forward). He bombs hills and powerslides totally comfortable in both stances.

If anyone remembers Kevin Davis (was on Osiris toward the end of the Storm era), he started skating regular for his first few years and then switched to goofy. I remember people referring to him as the first truly ambidextrous skater. Seems like a stretch these days, but I felt it was pretty accurate at the time:

Kevin Davis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQjGVloHLeM#)
I was at El Dorado when this dude pulled the switch back lip in this part. A crew of skaters (Kevin Davis, Adam Louder, and some other dudes) showed up whilst me n some buddies were skatin the 7 stair rail. After barely warming up he did the switch back lip in a few tries n a switch crooks too. If I remember correctly, he also attempeted switch varial heelflip back lips but didn't ride away. Adam Louder on the other hand I saw do a front shove to back lip in about 2 tries too, then he attempted hardflip back lips. Don't remember if he rolled away or not from that one... This was somewhere between when kickflip front boards down rails were startin to become commonplace and Billy Marks doin KFFSgrinds down rails in Good and Evil. I dunno, I remember being floored and also thinking there's no way in hell my ass is becoming a pro skater if this is what ams are doin.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: stephop on May 25, 2016, 05:25:41 PM
Can't say I've ever seen anyone do massive goofy frontside airs but none regular. That's kooky along with the whole some people skate ramp better switch but I didn't grow up skating much tranny so maybe it's more common then I think obviously.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: slothflip on May 25, 2016, 06:13:06 PM
when he goes up to the platform on the first line, he pushes along regular, then jumps around to goofy, leading me to believe that he's regular. Also, his fakie flips look like fakie flips when he's doing them regular stance.
He's definitely super rad though.
Didn't guy once say he could only do switch 360 flips so in his mind that basically was just how he did 360 flips?

that was the dead giveaway for me. imagine how contrived that would have been otherwise.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: happenstance on May 25, 2016, 06:16:17 PM
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I have a friend who snowboards in his opposite stance from skating. He is amazing at fakie stuff and it looks nollie (facing forward). He bombs hills and powerslides totally comfortable in both stances.

If anyone remembers Kevin Davis (was on Osiris toward the end of the Storm era), he started skating regular for his first few years and then switched to goofy. I remember people referring to him as the first truly ambidextrous skater. Seems like a stretch these days, but I felt it was pretty accurate at the time:

Kevin Davis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQjGVloHLeM#)
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I was at El Dorado when this dude pulled the switch back lip in this part. A crew of skaters (Kevin Davis, Adam Louder, and some other dudes) showed up whilst me n some buddies were skatin the 7 stair rail. After barely warming up he did the switch back lip in a few tries n a switch crooks too. If I remember correctly, he also attempeted switch varial heelflip back lips but didn't ride away. Adam Louder on the other hand I saw do a front shove to back lip in about 2 tries too, then he attempted hardflip back lips. Don't remember if he rolled away or not from that one... This was somewhere between when kickflip front boards down rails were startin to become commonplace and Billy Marks doin KFFSgrinds down rails in Good and Evil. I dunno, I remember being floored and also thinking there's no way in hell my ass is becoming a pro skater if this is what ams are doin.
Damn, crazy! I can say that Adam Louder does the hardflip backlip in the same video - Manual Labor.

I went to El Dorado frequently around the same time. Where are you from?
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: L33Tg33k on May 25, 2016, 07:56:57 PM
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when he goes up to the platform on the first line, he pushes along regular, then jumps around to goofy, leading me to believe that he's regular. Also, his fakie flips look like fakie flips when he's doing them regular stance.
He's definitely super rad though.
Didn't guy once say he could only do switch 360 flips so in his mind that basically was just how he did 360 flips?
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that was the dead giveaway for me. imagine how contrived that would have been otherwise.
You guys really think a person that is obviously trying to make his stance confusing is above pushing mongo to further the illusion? Taking that step doesn't really take that much self awareness. Not saying you're wrong, but it's certainly not the "dead giveaway" you're calling it. I mean, we all noticed it too. In fact, I think that argument is weak in comparison to the size of his goofy stanced airs in his other videos alone. I think the strongest evidence for him being regular is the video of him hitting the a frame rail. He's claiming regs, but I really don't think it matters to him for the most part.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: shit_for_brains on May 25, 2016, 08:15:58 PM
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when he goes up to the platform on the first line, he pushes along regular, then jumps around to goofy, leading me to believe that he's regular. Also, his fakie flips look like fakie flips when he's doing them regular stance.
He's definitely super rad though.
Didn't guy once say he could only do switch 360 flips so in his mind that basically was just how he did 360 flips?
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that was the dead giveaway for me. imagine how contrived that would have been otherwise.
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You guys really think a person that is obviously trying to make his stance confusing is above pushing mongo to further the illusion? Taking that step doesn't really take that much self awareness. Not saying you're wrong, but it's certainly not the "dead giveaway" you're calling it. I mean, we all noticed it too. In fact, I think that argument is weak in comparison to the size of his goofy stanced airs in his other videos alone. I think the strongest evidence for him being regular is the video of him hitting the a frame rail. He's claiming regs, but I really don't think it matters to him for the most part.

Those are why I'm positive he's goofy. Then other clips are why I'm positive he's regular.

What I really think though is that the world really did end in 2012 and we're all dead.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: frig deuce on May 25, 2016, 08:22:29 PM
no one can do this switch. no one.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BFfiNqSTSAr/?taken-by=lowkeyleelee_ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BFfiNqSTSAr/?taken-by=lowkeyleelee_)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BFw7KKNzSD-/?taken-by=lowkeyleelee_ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BFw7KKNzSD-/?taken-by=lowkeyleelee_)

he's either goofy, or straight up ambidextrous... but he ain't regular footed, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: slothflip on May 25, 2016, 08:27:29 PM
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when he goes up to the platform on the first line, he pushes along regular, then jumps around to goofy, leading me to believe that he's regular. Also, his fakie flips look like fakie flips when he's doing them regular stance.
He's definitely super rad though.
Didn't guy once say he could only do switch 360 flips so in his mind that basically was just how he did 360 flips?
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that was the dead giveaway for me. imagine how contrived that would have been otherwise.
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You guys really think a person that is obviously trying to make his stance confusing is above pushing mongo to further the illusion? Taking that step doesn't really take that much self awareness. Not saying you're wrong, but it's certainly not the "dead giveaway" you're calling it. I mean, we all noticed it too. In fact, I think that argument is weak in comparison to the size of his goofy stanced airs in his other videos alone. I think the strongest evidence for him being regular is the video of him hitting the a frame rail. He's claiming regs, but I really don't think it matters to him for the most part.

anythings possible i guess, especially these days. this gentlemen just didnt strike me as the type to fake the funk to that extent. it felt and looked to me like an instinctual transition to switch in the middle of a park line. more possible evidence is the lofty 3 over the bank where he and his homies get lit up. it was impressive for sure but wouldn't he have that trick reg all day? gotta go back and check the a frame rail...
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Mazzer on May 25, 2016, 09:24:42 PM
He's goofy, but it's just so funny/genius He lies and says he's regular fam and goes through the trouble of filming switch flip lips and switch bennihanas (and switch flip front crook) and purposely tries to make it look natural stance and doesn't caption it switch.  That's what highlights his natural stance tranny, which it seems he tries to make look switch (but doesn't overtly claim it's switch - because it's not).  Lots of other people can skate street switch like that and tranny natural foot like that, but it's his deception that is so unique and intriguing. On the other hand, the switch flips into tranny that he makes look nonswitch is something no one else can do, but I don't think he's to the point of being ambi. Some of you are buying his pushing shenanigans or sex change / half cabbery nonsense, and that's exactly what he's selling here.  Give me a regular footed back overcrook in tranny.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: AitchBeeGayBuh on May 25, 2016, 09:30:21 PM
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I have a friend who snowboards in his opposite stance from skating. He is amazing at fakie stuff and it looks nollie (facing forward). He bombs hills and powerslides totally comfortable in both stances.

If anyone remembers Kevin Davis (was on Osiris toward the end of the Storm era), he started skating regular for his first few years and then switched to goofy. I remember people referring to him as the first truly ambidextrous skater. Seems like a stretch these days, but I felt it was pretty accurate at the time:

Kevin Davis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQjGVloHLeM#)
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I was at El Dorado when this dude pulled the switch back lip in this part. A crew of skaters (Kevin Davis, Adam Louder, and some other dudes) showed up whilst me n some buddies were skatin the 7 stair rail. After barely warming up he did the switch back lip in a few tries n a switch crooks too. If I remember correctly, he also attempeted switch varial heelflip back lips but didn't ride away. Adam Louder on the other hand I saw do a front shove to back lip in about 2 tries too, then he attempted hardflip back lips. Don't remember if he rolled away or not from that one... This was somewhere between when kickflip front boards down rails were startin to become commonplace and Billy Marks doin KFFSgrinds down rails in Good and Evil. I dunno, I remember being floored and also thinking there's no way in hell my ass is becoming a pro skater if this is what ams are doin.
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Damn, crazy! I can say that Adam Louder does the hardflip backlip in the same video - Manual Labor.

I went to El Dorado frequently around the same time. Where are you from?
From a town called Phelan in the high desert, grew up skatin with Herman and Matt Allen. Moved to Huntington Beach in 05 n I'm still fuckin here. Fun fact: Don't know if u remember, there was the rail down the middle of the set everyone skated then one next to the brick wall on the right side. At one point the owner of Pharmacy (Donny) smashed out a good part of the wall with a hammer so we could hit it up. Footage of it is in an old Pharmacy video.
Just remembered too I got to witness Arto cab back lip attempts down that rail around that era... That was a rad spot back then.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Monkey_Mcpott on May 25, 2016, 09:37:13 PM
He's goofy, but it's just so funny/genius He lies and says he's regular fam and goes through the trouble of filming switch flip lips and switch bennihanas (and switch flip front crook) and purposely tries to make it look natural stance and doesn't caption it switch.  That's what highlights his natural stance tranny, which it seems he tries to make look switch (but doesn't overtly claim it's switch - because it's not).  Lots of other people can skate street switch like that and tranny natural foot like that, but it's his deception that is so unique and intriguing. On the other hand, the switch flips into tranny that he makes look nonswitch is something no one else can do, but I don't think he's to the point of being ambi. Some of you are buying his pushing shenanigans or sex change / half cabbery nonsense, and that's exactly what he's selling here.  Give me a regular footed back overcrook in tranny.

(http://i.imgur.com/Gxpehjs.gif)
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: wallieD on May 26, 2016, 01:17:22 AM
He's goofy, but it's just so funny/genius He lies and says he's regular fam and goes through the trouble of filming switch flip lips and switch bennihanas (and switch flip front crook) and purposely tries to make it look natural stance and doesn't caption it switch.  That's what highlights his natural stance tranny, which it seems he tries to make look switch (but doesn't overtly claim it's switch - because it's not).  Lots of other people can skate street switch like that and tranny natural foot like that, but it's his deception that is so unique and intriguing. On the other hand, the switch flips into tranny that he makes look nonswitch is something no one else can do, but I don't think he's to the point of being ambi. Some of you are buying his pushing shenanigans or sex change / half cabbery nonsense, and that's exactly what he's selling here.  Give me a regular footed back overcrook in tranny.
probably wouldn't go at this switch...  https://www.instagram.com/p/zPXW0JzSPf/?taken-by=lowkeyleelee_ (https://www.instagram.com/p/zPXW0JzSPf/?taken-by=lowkeyleelee_)
old post with a sw heel caption https://www.instagram.com/p/qLU76ZzSPs/?taken-by=lowkeyleelee_ (https://www.instagram.com/p/qLU76ZzSPs/?taken-by=lowkeyleelee_)
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on May 26, 2016, 05:22:15 AM
This clip tells me he's goofy but dude is wild

https://www.instagram.com/p/BFf4a8WTSDl/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BFf4a8WTSDl/)



 

I think this clip proves he's regular. At least I'd say it puts no doubt in my own mind that he's regular.


The first kickflip over the hip doesn't look switch at all. That fakie/nollie flip into the bank/roll in after the bs/s 360 looks fakie for sure. In fact it looks pretty much exactly how Reynolds does his fakie flips.


Also that frontiside ollie followed by the lipslide was the switchest looking frontside ollie EVER! The lipslide looks super switch too.


 


And to everyone who says he HAS to be goofy because no one can do airs that good switch, are you telling me that if someone is regular but can do frontside bigspins, or hardflips in the goofy stance almost every try but takes them 100 tries to land either one regular footed that when he does a frontside bigspin or hardflip in the goofy stance that's actually a regular one and not switch because he's better at that trick in that stance?


Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: shit_for_brains on May 26, 2016, 05:51:46 AM
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This clip tells me he's goofy but dude is wild

https://www.instagram.com/p/BFf4a8WTSDl/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BFf4a8WTSDl/)
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I think this clip proves he's regular. At least I'd say it puts no doubt in my own mind that he's regular.


The first kickflip over the hip doesn't look switch at all. That fakie/nollie flip into the bank/roll in after the bs/s 360 looks fakie for sure. In fact it looks pretty much exactly how Reynolds does his fakie flips.


Also that frontiside ollie followed by the lipslide was the switchest looking frontside ollie EVER! The lipslide looks super switch too.


 


And to everyone who says he HAS to be goofy because no one can do airs that good switch, are you telling me that if someone is regular but can do frontside bigspins, or hardflips in the goofy stance almost every try but takes them 100 tries to land either one regular footed that when he does a frontside bigspin or hardflip in the goofy stance that's actually a regular one and not switch because he's better at that trick in that stance?




You lost me.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: concerned_parent on May 26, 2016, 06:36:32 AM
i'm so happy this wasn't a clip of aaron goure or some welcome kid saying "i've never seen anything like this" while someone does a trick at that tempe park
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Prison Wallet on May 26, 2016, 07:11:03 AM
no one can do this switch. no one.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BFfiNqSTSAr/?taken-by=lowkeyleelee_ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BFfiNqSTSAr/?taken-by=lowkeyleelee_)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BFw7KKNzSD-/?taken-by=lowkeyleelee_ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BFw7KKNzSD-/?taken-by=lowkeyleelee_)

he's either goofy, or straight up ambidextrous... but he ain't regular footed, that's for sure.

Vov?
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: ADOLF SHITLER on May 26, 2016, 11:07:46 AM
I don't see the confusion he doesn't really have a natural stance but skates tranny better goofy
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: happenstance on May 26, 2016, 11:41:34 AM
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I have a friend who snowboards in his opposite stance from skating. He is amazing at fakie stuff and it looks nollie (facing forward). He bombs hills and powerslides totally comfortable in both stances.

If anyone remembers Kevin Davis (was on Osiris toward the end of the Storm era), he started skating regular for his first few years and then switched to goofy. I remember people referring to him as the first truly ambidextrous skater. Seems like a stretch these days, but I felt it was pretty accurate at the time:

Kevin Davis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQjGVloHLeM#)
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I was at El Dorado when this dude pulled the switch back lip in this part. A crew of skaters (Kevin Davis, Adam Louder, and some other dudes) showed up whilst me n some buddies were skatin the 7 stair rail. After barely warming up he did the switch back lip in a few tries n a switch crooks too. If I remember correctly, he also attempeted switch varial heelflip back lips but didn't ride away. Adam Louder on the other hand I saw do a front shove to back lip in about 2 tries too, then he attempted hardflip back lips. Don't remember if he rolled away or not from that one... This was somewhere between when kickflip front boards down rails were startin to become commonplace and Billy Marks doin KFFSgrinds down rails in Good and Evil. I dunno, I remember being floored and also thinking there's no way in hell my ass is becoming a pro skater if this is what ams are doin.
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Damn, crazy! I can say that Adam Louder does the hardflip backlip in the same video - Manual Labor.

I went to El Dorado frequently around the same time. Where are you from?
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From a town called Phelan in the high desert, grew up skatin with Herman and Matt Allen. Moved to Huntington Beach in 05 n I'm still fuckin here. Fun fact: Don't know if u remember, there was the rail down the middle of the set everyone skated then one next to the brick wall on the right side. At one point the owner of Pharmacy (Donny) smashed out a good part of the wall with a hammer so we could hit it up. Footage of it is in an old Pharmacy video.
Just remembered too I got to witness Arto cab back lip attempts down that rail around that era... That was a rad spot back then.
Ah, you guys were responsible for that? It sure was helpful.

I was from Irvine. I knew a dude or two from the old Pharmacy crew in the early 2000s. All I can say is it produced a bunch of superstars!

My knees aren't too happy with the fact that I came of age in that era.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: MintySandwhich on May 26, 2016, 12:01:43 PM
so does this dude only skate Venice? lol
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Monkey_Mcpott on May 26, 2016, 12:11:37 PM
I don't see the confusion he doesn't really have a natural stance but skates tranny better goofy

Whats your sig from?
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: ADOLF SHITLER on May 26, 2016, 12:37:12 PM
I've answered this question at least 5 times and had niggas pm'ing me asking and shit. Go to you tube and search "teekayda how can i love you" it's some niggas in sacramento and i'm not sure why they got thqt lil white with them
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on May 26, 2016, 01:14:46 PM
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This clip tells me he's goofy but dude is wild

https://www.instagram.com/p/BFf4a8WTSDl/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BFf4a8WTSDl/)
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I think this clip proves he's regular. At least I'd say it puts no doubt in my own mind that he's regular.


The first kickflip over the hip doesn't look switch at all. That fakie/nollie flip into the bank/roll in after the bs/s 360 looks fakie for sure. In fact it looks pretty much exactly how Reynolds does his fakie flips.


Also that frontiside ollie followed by the lipslide was the switchest looking frontside ollie EVER! The lipslide looks super switch too.


 


And to everyone who says he HAS to be goofy because no one can do airs that good switch, are you telling me that if someone is regular but can do frontside bigspins, or hardflips in the goofy stance almost every try but takes them 100 tries to land either one regular footed that when he does a frontside bigspin or hardflip in the goofy stance that's actually a regular one and not switch because he's better at that trick in that stance?



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You lost me.
Basically if some if someone is better at a certain trick(s) switch than regular does his stance change for those switch tricks only just because the actual non switch ones are harder? Of course it fucking doesn't.

I'm saying that just because he might skate tranny better goofy than regular doesn't magically mean he is goofy
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: GatorsGhost on May 26, 2016, 01:53:26 PM
Interesting that so many people here have known guys like this.  There used to be this kid that would come to my local park, shred the ledges and do flip tricks regular, then drop in and skate tranny goofy.  I guess it isn't as weird as I thought.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: MintySandwhich on May 26, 2016, 01:55:04 PM
You're mentally ill if you think this dude is regular.

So he can boost back 3 nosegrabs.. switch?
He can frontside air like 5ft.. switch?
Even the gnarliest of tranny dudes can't do that.

People have styles where they look like they're skating switch. This is not a new thing.
Are you guys new to skateboarding?
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: CRAILFISH TO REVERT on May 26, 2016, 02:41:34 PM
http://skateparkoftampa.com/skater/5793/Leandre_Sanders (http://skateparkoftampa.com/skater/5793/Leandre_Sanders)
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: MintySandwhich on May 26, 2016, 03:00:20 PM
http://skateparkoftampa.com/skater/5793/Leandre_Sanders (http://skateparkoftampa.com/skater/5793/Leandre_Sanders)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7rY-SWPAwE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7rY-SWPAwE)

Looked up this older video, looks more like he's goofy.

Fool is straight up playing that look.

I'll admit where I'm wrong though. He is regular.

EDIT:

But then I see a video like this one: Switch backsmith has me fucked up

LeAndre Sanders switch tre and a couple lines (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjphPHQ8xII#)
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Roro1 on May 26, 2016, 04:56:35 PM
this thread is like the skateboarding version of the black-blue or white-gold dress story
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_dress_(viral_phenomenon)
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: shit_for_brains on May 26, 2016, 05:23:23 PM
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This clip tells me he's goofy but dude is wild

https://www.instagram.com/p/BFf4a8WTSDl/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BFf4a8WTSDl/)
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I think this clip proves he's regular. At least I'd say it puts no doubt in my own mind that he's regular.


The first kickflip over the hip doesn't look switch at all. That fakie/nollie flip into the bank/roll in after the bs/s 360 looks fakie for sure. In fact it looks pretty much exactly how Reynolds does his fakie flips.


Also that frontiside ollie followed by the lipslide was the switchest looking frontside ollie EVER! The lipslide looks super switch too.


 


And to everyone who says he HAS to be goofy because no one can do airs that good switch, are you telling me that if someone is regular but can do frontside bigspins, or hardflips in the goofy stance almost every try but takes them 100 tries to land either one regular footed that when he does a frontside bigspin or hardflip in the goofy stance that's actually a regular one and not switch because he's better at that trick in that stance?



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You lost me.
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Basically if some if someone is better at a certain trick(s) switch than regular does his stance change for those switch tricks only just because the actual non switch ones are harder? Of course it fucking doesn't.

I'm saying that just because he might skate tranny better goofy than regular doesn't magically mean he is goofy

Ah okay I agree.

I think anyone who is saying anyone is "regular because he's obviously ___" is regular. He's not obviously anything, that's the whole point. He's a unicorn.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: stephop on May 26, 2016, 07:23:08 PM
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This clip tells me he's goofy but dude is wild

https://www.instagram.com/p/BFf4a8WTSDl/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BFf4a8WTSDl/)
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I think this clip proves he's regular. At least I'd say it puts no doubt in my own mind that he's regular.


The first kickflip over the hip doesn't look switch at all. That fakie/nollie flip into the bank/roll in after the bs/s 360 looks fakie for sure. In fact it looks pretty much exactly how Reynolds does his fakie flips.


Also that frontiside ollie followed by the lipslide was the switchest looking frontside ollie EVER! The lipslide looks super switch too.


 


And to everyone who says he HAS to be goofy because no one can do airs that good switch, are you telling me that if someone is regular but can do frontside bigspins, or hardflips in the goofy stance almost every try but takes them 100 tries to land either one regular footed that when he does a frontside bigspin or hardflip in the goofy stance that's actually a regular one and not switch because he's better at that trick in that stance?



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You lost me.
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Basically if some if someone is better at a certain trick(s) switch than regular does his stance change for those switch tricks only just because the actual non switch ones are harder? Of course it fucking doesn't.

I'm saying that just because he might skate tranny better goofy than regular doesn't magically mean he is goofy
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Ah okay I agree.

I think anyone who is saying anyone is "regular because he's obviously ___" is regular. He's not obviously anything, that's the whole point. He's a unicorn.

Yep. I've never seen anyone blast airs one way who couldn't do them " regular " make no sense but obviously unicorns can do it. The shit isn't normal any way you slice it.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: SIMPLY on May 27, 2016, 06:46:59 PM
people saying he's lying about his stance or doing certain things to trick us.. come on
this is so refreshing though, hope to see more footage of him outside of venice soon.
i'm on team regular for street and goofy for tranny. it's way more common than people think, he's just exceptionally good at both
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: shit_for_brains on May 27, 2016, 08:16:30 PM
NO. There is no being both. There is your regular stance, and there is switch stance. That's it. There's no such thing as an ambidextrous stance. You are goofy or you are regular. You are not goofy and regular. That completely diminishes how good he is. All of your "friends" that you "know" who "can do this too" are also amazing beautiful freaks, if they exist which I do not believe that they do.

Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Shitbag on May 28, 2016, 01:01:16 PM
Yeah I am backing the view that you're either regular or goofy, I know a dude who skates street regular but all transition he skates goofy, he's nowhere as good at skating tranny than he is at skating street though but he exists.
I don't like it, it's weird to me but whatever floats your boat I guess.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: beat! on May 28, 2016, 01:16:13 PM
You're mentally ill if you think this dude is regular.

So he can boost back 3 nosegrabs.. switch?
He can frontside air like 5ft.. switch?
Even the gnarliest of tranny dudes can't do that.

People have styles where they look like they're skating switch. This is not a new thing.
Are you guys new to skateboarding?

ummm... i can only skate tranny switch. this isn't as weird as you think. I skate regular, but i can only skate tranny goofy. it's because i started skating mongo and my dominant foot is also my pop foot, so i have better balance goofy but i can only pop regular. popping switch still feels switch, but riding switch doesn't

basically what shitbag said applies to me, but im about as good at skating tranny as i am at skating street
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: beat! on May 28, 2016, 01:20:08 PM
i can also only do nose mannys crooks and noseslides switch since i have a really hard time leaning forward regular. slappies and wallrides are all switch too, although i can wallride regular too just not as good. no way in hell i can do any flip tricks switch tho, or pop onto ledges
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: tobey on May 29, 2016, 10:05:35 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0O7yLIDZeY&list=PL-SHvDd8gwfQRnKUwzvSJwOnDN4og3G_n (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0O7yLIDZeY&list=PL-SHvDd8gwfQRnKUwzvSJwOnDN4og3G_n#)

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Gonna make a bold statement and rank this up amongst Guy Mariano, Trevor Colden, Shane O'Neill, Paul Rodriguez and Anthony Van Engelen as one of my favorite switch tre's ever put on record. Leandre Sanders set off a storm of controversy on our @metroskateboarding Instagram by skating with a mirror image style both switch and regular, word around his local Venice park is he prefers to skate street regular footed and transition goofy ...which makes absolutely no sense unless you happen to be one of those madmen blessed with an impaired sense of reason as so many of our best skateboarders are. Thanks for sharing this one with us Jono Aguilar @pearledvisions See more from Leandre and the rest of the Venice area locals here

I'm breaking one of his legs. You pick, want him goofy or regular for the rest of his life?

Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Tracer on May 29, 2016, 10:14:10 PM
some kid rides the venice beach skatepark... its culturally depressing this has gone 4 pages
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: ducky darnsworth on May 30, 2016, 01:40:24 AM
idk which stance this guy is but he needs to push his ass to a new barber, what the fuck kinda frosted cheeto fade is this fool running? fucking so cal kids
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Esquivel on May 30, 2016, 01:42:51 AM
He's goofy, but it's just so funny/genius He lies and says he's regular fam and goes through the trouble of filming switch flip lips and switch bennihanas (and switch flip front crook) and purposely tries to make it look natural stance and doesn't caption it switch.� That's what highlights his natural stance tranny, which it seems he tries to make look switch (but doesn't overtly claim it's switch - because it's not).� Lots of other people can skate street switch like that and tranny natural foot like that, but it's his deception that is so unique and intriguing. On the other hand, the switch flips into tranny that he makes look nonswitch is something no one else can do, but I don't think he's to the point of being ambi. Some of you are buying his pushing shenanigans or sex change / half cabbery nonsense, and that's exactly what he's selling here.� Give me a regular footed back overcrook in tranny.

 i read all the comments here and then started watching his vids. my initial reaction was to call everyone who claimed regular an idiot. then i saw his flip front crook on a skatepark rail and that changed my thinking. his stance is a mystery.

also, fuck yeah Kevin Davis was the #switchgod during the storm/manual labor days
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: planman on May 30, 2016, 04:04:38 PM
This thread is the best thing I've seen on SLAP in a while
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: uesty on May 30, 2016, 06:36:54 PM
this thread is like the skateboarding version of the black-blue or white-gold dress story
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Logan Lewis on June 13, 2016, 11:10:32 AM
Rodney claimed after healing himself and returning to skating (and specifically "training" switch) he achieved an enlightened state of "stance-less-ness". Id say this hipster subconsciously has kinda achieved the same thing.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: CRAILFISH TO REVERT on June 13, 2016, 06:05:39 PM
Rodney claimed after healing himself and returning to skating (and specifically "training" switch) he achieved an enlightened state of "stance-less-ness". Id say this hipster subconsciously has kinda achieved the same thing.

Rodney recently claimed a part, coming soon.. 4 minutes long. so I guess we will see.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: RoaryMcTwang on June 13, 2016, 07:51:35 PM
He manages to look stanceless on flat, but I'd go with those who say that tranny is his tell. I think he's goofy with unreal switch skills.

As to Rodney, didn't he say his stancelessness was the result of his hip joint being completely stiffened up and then popped back in again at a slightly different angle? If that's true there might be stanceless genetic mutations out there who got that type of thing going from birth. So maybe I'm wrong and this guy is one of them.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Logan Lewis on June 13, 2016, 08:14:09 PM
He manages to look stanceless on flat, but I'd go with those who say that tranny is his tell. I think he's goofy with unreal switch skills.

As to Rodney, didn't he say his stancelessness was the result of his hip joint being completely stiffened up and then popped back in again at a slightly different angle? If that's true there might be stanceless genetic mutations out there who got that type of thing going from birth. So maybe I'm wrong and this guy is one of them.

Not necessarily! To my understanding, he claimed that after years of (intense OCD) skating prominently in his "regular" stance, one of his hip joints had calcified into painful and hindering cartilage (scar-tissue), and after painfully breaking (re-setting) he trained himself to skate switch. On getting up again: Rodney Mullen at TEDxOrangeCoast (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBbmNAZWq-E#) (11:25)
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: CRAILFISH TO REVERT on June 14, 2016, 01:25:32 PM
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He manages to look stanceless on flat, but I'd go with those who say that tranny is his tell. I think he's goofy with unreal switch skills.

As to Rodney, didn't he say his stancelessness was the result of his hip joint being completely stiffened up and then popped back in again at a slightly different angle? If that's true there might be stanceless genetic mutations out there who got that type of thing going from birth. So maybe I'm wrong and this guy is one of them.
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Not necessarily! To my understanding, he claimed that after years of (intense OCD) skating prominently in his "regular" stance, one of his hip joints had calcified into painful and hindering cartilage (scar-tissue), and after painfully breaking (re-setting) he trained himself to skate switch. On getting up again: Rodney Mullen at TEDxOrangeCoast (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBbmNAZWq-E#) (11:25)

there's another video (cant seem to find it) where he talks about 'no stance' and how he is working to achieve that.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: shit_for_brains on June 14, 2016, 01:28:08 PM
Am I the only one who can't stand listening to him at all?
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Coastal Fever on June 14, 2016, 02:00:40 PM
Nope.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: straight on June 14, 2016, 02:14:35 PM
Nope.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Logan Lewis on June 14, 2016, 02:21:46 PM
Am I the only one who can't stand listening to him at all?

theres no skater on earth who can articulate the way he can... yall are crazy!!!
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: shit_for_brains on June 14, 2016, 02:28:16 PM
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theres no skater on earth who can articulate the way he can... yall are crazy!!!

What? How old are you? He sounds like a homeless guy everybody in town calls "The Professor"
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Logan Lewis on June 14, 2016, 02:38:27 PM
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theres no skater on earth who can articulate the way he can... yall are crazy!!!
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What? How old are you? He sounds like a homeless guy everybody in town calls "The Professor"

Ha 24? I dont really see how that relates as I imagine a younger person wouldn't have the attention span to sit through a tedxtalk let alone the ability to appreciate who Rodney is and what hes done for skateboarding. I know he has a strange rambling tangent riddled way of articulating, but its beautiful! I imagine him visualizing everything like russell crowe in beautiful mind. His voice is smooth and seems un-accented, and the emotions he is able to convey through his voice-inflections and mannerisms are un-paralleled in super-star skateboard story-tellers IMO. Only person I might compare him with is Matt Rodriguez, which I know is kinda the other side of the spectrum, but nonetheless an amazing story-teller and expressive artist.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: shit_for_brains on June 14, 2016, 02:58:06 PM
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theres no skater on earth who can articulate the way he can... yall are crazy!!!
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What? How old are you? He sounds like a homeless guy everybody in town calls "The Professor"
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Ha 24? I dont really see how that relates as I imagine a younger person wouldn't have the attention span to sit through a tedxtalk let alone the ability to appreciate who Rodney is and what hes done for skateboarding. I know he has a strange rambling tangent riddled way of articulating, but its beautiful! I imagine him visualizing everything like russell crowe in beautiful mind. His voice is smooth and seems un-accented, and the emotions he is able to convey through his voice-inflections and mannerisms are un-paralleled in super-star skateboard story-tellers IMO. Only person I might compare him with is Matt Rodriguez, which I know is kinda the other side of the spectrum, but nonetheless an amazing story-teller and expressive artist.

I guess it's relevant in that people in their 20s still think the world is amazing and things like that. 15 years ago I might've thought he was giving sage wisdom (I didn't, but you know what I mean) but now I see a lunatic I don't want to make eye contact with. He's not spinning wise riddles, he's babbling nonsense.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: chuck d on June 14, 2016, 03:07:41 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/-zTt8zzSHx/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/-zTt8zzSHx/)
https://www.instagram.com/p/7M7wlVzSLc/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/7M7wlVzSLc/)
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Logan Lewis on June 14, 2016, 03:40:40 PM
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theres no skater on earth who can articulate the way he can... yall are crazy!!!
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What? How old are you? He sounds like a homeless guy everybody in town calls "The Professor"
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Ha 24? I dont really see how that relates as I imagine a younger person wouldn't have the attention span to sit through a tedxtalk let alone the ability to appreciate who Rodney is and what hes done for skateboarding. I know he has a strange rambling tangent riddled way of articulating, but its beautiful! I imagine him visualizing everything like russell crowe in beautiful mind. His voice is smooth and seems un-accented, and the emotions he is able to convey through his voice-inflections and mannerisms are un-paralleled in super-star skateboard story-tellers IMO. Only person I might compare him with is Matt Rodriguez, which I know is kinda the other side of the spectrum, but nonetheless an amazing story-teller and expressive artist.
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I guess it's relevant in that people in their 20s still think the world is amazing and things like that. 15 years ago I might've thought he was giving sage wisdom (I didn't, but you know what I mean) but now I see a lunatic I don't want to make eye contact with. He's not spinning wise riddles, he's babbling nonsense.

bahaha youre under 40 so stfu and quit acting like hating life is cool
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: shit_for_brains on June 14, 2016, 04:02:36 PM
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theres no skater on earth who can articulate the way he can... yall are crazy!!!
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What? How old are you? He sounds like a homeless guy everybody in town calls "The Professor"
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Ha 24? I dont really see how that relates as I imagine a younger person wouldn't have the attention span to sit through a tedxtalk let alone the ability to appreciate who Rodney is and what hes done for skateboarding. I know he has a strange rambling tangent riddled way of articulating, but its beautiful! I imagine him visualizing everything like russell crowe in beautiful mind. His voice is smooth and seems un-accented, and the emotions he is able to convey through his voice-inflections and mannerisms are un-paralleled in super-star skateboard story-tellers IMO. Only person I might compare him with is Matt Rodriguez, which I know is kinda the other side of the spectrum, but nonetheless an amazing story-teller and expressive artist.
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I guess it's relevant in that people in their 20s still think the world is amazing and things like that. 15 years ago I might've thought he was giving sage wisdom (I didn't, but you know what I mean) but now I see a lunatic I don't want to make eye contact with. He's not spinning wise riddles, he's babbling nonsense.
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bahaha youre under 40 so stfu and quit acting like hating life is cool

Hey fuck you kid
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on June 15, 2016, 05:16:16 AM
Props to those of us who saw the "regs" here from the start of the thread- good lookin out!   When I first saw this clip something inside me said, "This dude the best skateboarder on the planet?"  
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: DM on September 12, 2016, 03:30:17 PM
Interview http://skateboarding.transworld.net/photos/interviews/leandre-sanders-man-no-stance/#lc7GfF2V1LA5W5dw.97 (http://skateboarding.transworld.net/photos/interviews/leandre-sanders-man-no-stance/#lc7GfF2V1LA5W5dw.97)
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: RoaryMcTwang on September 12, 2016, 09:07:28 PM
Okay. So now that we know he's regular this opens up a whole new can of philosophical worms. Do these airs and the 360 flip over the fence really count as switch tricks, given that they don't feel switch to him and don't look switch to us? That is to say: What are the necessary and sufficient conditions for a trick being switch? Does the switchness of a trick lie in a property of that trick itself, or in how it is perceived by outside observers? Food for thought indeed.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: A MAN on September 15, 2016, 02:22:56 AM
Interview http://skateboarding.transworld.net/photos/interviews/leandre-sanders-man-no-stance/#lc7GfF2V1LA5W5dw.97 (http://skateboarding.transworld.net/photos/interviews/leandre-sanders-man-no-stance/#lc7GfF2V1LA5W5dw.97)

Ha ha ha can we all appreciatte this gem in the interview when discussing Rodney Mullen:

I think he?s been working for years to have no stance.

Yeah, is he getting his hips removed or something like that?

Rodney Mullen is getting his hips removed. You heard it here first.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Gomez on September 15, 2016, 02:26:11 AM
Interview http://skateboarding.transworld.net/photos/interviews/leandre-sanders-man-no-stance/#lc7GfF2V1LA5W5dw.97 (http://skateboarding.transworld.net/photos/interviews/leandre-sanders-man-no-stance/#lc7GfF2V1LA5W5dw.97)
I knew a guy in high school who skated different stances for tranny and street. He quit skating after a year because he never got any good at skating either of them, which made sense to my friends and me. We assumed you couldn't get comfortable enough to progress if you skated two stances at the same time. This kinda proves us wrong, but he said in that interview that he basically switched his stance four years ago intentionally to get like this.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: excitableboy on September 15, 2016, 06:50:48 AM
Actually it says he was better on transition skating goofy from the get-go. Obviously he got better at it from there but it seems to have just happened. To change stances so easily suggests that he wasn't regular, in the regular sense of the word, from the beginning.

The comparisons with Rodney are weird to me. He is a legend not because of his stancelessness, but because he was able to think up and land pretty much every trick. Looking comfortable while doing it was evidently never a priority of his. We've only ever seen hints at this, like Luy-Pa Sin's switch back tails.   
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: shit_for_brains on September 15, 2016, 06:53:02 AM
Everybody only gets one stance and there's no talking in circles until you convince yourself. This dude is magical.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: swag nollies on September 15, 2016, 08:06:14 AM
Evolution
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: botefdunn on September 15, 2016, 10:42:31 AM
interview says he moved to Australia right in the midst of his formative teenage years, which explains it: water swirling counterclockwise down the toilet and all that.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Hypnotoad on September 15, 2016, 04:07:32 PM
Actually it says he was better on transition skating goofy from the get-go. Obviously he got better at it from there but it seems to have just happened. To change stances so easily suggests that he wasn't regular, in the regular sense of the word, from the beginning.

The comparisons with Rodney are weird to me. He is a legend not because of his stancelessness, but because he was able to think up and land pretty much every trick. Looking comfortable while doing it was evidently never a priority of his. We've only ever seen hints at this, like Luy-Pa Sin's switch back tails.   

I don't think anyone necessarily thinks of Rodney that way really, but in the Early/mid 2000's, Rodney said in an interview that it was his goal/dream to skate without a stance.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: iwishilivedinfinla on September 15, 2016, 09:00:09 PM
someone needs to put a gun to his head and yell "JUMP ON YOUR BOARD MOTHERFUCKER"

and see what he does
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: excitableboy on September 15, 2016, 11:18:30 PM
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Actually it says he was better on transition skating goofy from the get-go. Obviously he got better at it from there but it seems to have just happened. To change stances so easily suggests that he wasn't regular, in the regular sense of the word, from the beginning.

The comparisons with Rodney are weird to me. He is a legend not because of his stancelessness, but because he was able to think up and land pretty much every trick. Looking comfortable while doing it was evidently never a priority of his. We've only ever seen hints at this, like Luy-Pa Sin's switch back tails.   
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I don't think anyone necessarily thinks of Rodney that way really, but in the Early/mid 2000's, Rodney said in an interview that it was his goal/dream to skate without a stance.

That makes sense I guess. I know the Gonz has talked about trying to make switch tricks look perfectly normal, and I've always liked stories about him skating entire contest weekends switch stance back in the day, without most people even noticing anything different. I always took that to be urban legend for the most part, but trying to skate switch the way goofy feels, does seem like something he would do. Even kickflipping a bike may be an easier thing to set your mind to.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: TheDraught on September 16, 2016, 05:39:40 AM
So this is a switch 540. Insane.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BKKLkEIDr6G/  (https://www.instagram.com/p/BKKLkEIDr6G/)
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Gomez on September 16, 2016, 10:45:44 AM
nah with this dude if it's regular in tranny or goofy in street then it's switch. he is the first (great) skater to have two legit stances. i like that he himself doesn't try to say he's doing a switch 540 there. also funny how he kicks his board into the bowl in celebration while a dude is doing a run in there
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: RoaryMcTwang on September 16, 2016, 06:46:17 PM
nah with this dude if it's regular in tranny or goofy in street then it's switch. he is the first (great) skater to have two legit stances. i like that he himself doesn't try to say he's doing a switch 540 there. also funny how he kicks his board into the bowl in celebration while a dude is doing a run in there

My thoughts exactly. Switch is "the other stance" as opposed to how you usually skate. This guy skates bowls goofy, always, so this 540 isn't switch for him. He has a street stance and a separate tranny stance, so what is switch for him would have to be defined against the relevant separate stance in any given trick - which is not to say that that isn't crazy as fuck in itself.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: MintySandwhich on September 20, 2016, 04:48:50 PM
So this is a switch 540. Insane.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BKKLkEIDr6G/  (https://www.instagram.com/p/BKKLkEIDr6G/)

insane

but it's fucked how he just tosses his board into the bowl when that dude was going. I would hate to skate that park
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: too much on September 20, 2016, 09:39:40 PM
Dude seems like he could turn pro but his gimmick is super lame with the both stances and swag kit/shitty rap vibe...There are lots of examples of pro street skaters doing switch and nollie tricks where they don't look switch...i.e. Wade Desarmo and Erik Ellington...There are also lots of examples of pro's who predominately skate street switch because it's more fun and then we debate is it really switch for Guy or really switch for Baptista?

This Venice loc has good style, good bag of tricks, and all terrain but he has a gimmick....he should drop the gimmick and admit he's goofy. I have nothing wrong with switch flip fs lip slides that don't look switch...same with switch flip fs crooks...nothing wrong with doing tricks so well or learning how to do switch tricks where they don't look switch.

But what is really fucking annoying is claiming you skate different stances for different obstacles....it makes the footage nausiating to think about. It's not that intriguing to think so deeply about his stance to be honest. I think it's almost entering fuccboi territory for real...like he's playing us...so he should drop the gimmick, imo.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: snowman600 on September 20, 2016, 10:12:48 PM
everyone's excited for BA to come out, but this dude can't be bi-stanceual... ::)
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: RoaryMcTwang on September 20, 2016, 11:59:03 PM
everyone's excited for BA to come out, but this dude can't be bi-stanceual... ::)

Very good point. This is a political issue.  I say he has the right to have two stances!

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Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Gomez on September 21, 2016, 01:13:36 AM
Dude seems like he could turn pro but his gimmick is super lame with the both stances and swag kit/shitty rap vibe...There are lots of examples of pro street skaters doing switch and nollie tricks where they don't look switch...i.e. Wade Desarmo and Erik Ellington...There are also lots of examples of pro's who predominately skate street switch because it's more fun and then we debate is it really switch for Guy or really switch for Baptista?

This Venice loc has good style, good bag of tricks, and all terrain but he has a gimmick....he should drop the gimmick and admit he's goofy. I have nothing wrong with switch flip fs lip slides that don't look switch...same with switch flip fs crooks...nothing wrong with doing tricks so well or learning how to do switch tricks where they don't look switch.

But what is really fucking annoying is claiming you skate different stances for different obstacles....it makes the footage nausiating to think about. It's not that intriguing to think so deeply about his stance to be honest. I think it's almost entering fuccboi territory for real...like he's playing us...so he should drop the gimmick, imo.
nah. sammy might be better at skating street goofy, but he's not killing tranny in regular. and not one of those other dudes you mentioned--or anyone else, ever--is better in switch on a different type of terrain than they are regular. dudes you mentioned are ambidextrous, maybe. not this dude though--he has two stances. can't skate either terrain equally in each stance like those dudes can.

he doesn't give an exact timeline in his interview, but he says he grew up skating hawthorne park in regular stance with theotis, louie, and antwuan (witnesses?). he then moved to venice with his homie fouryears ago and started skating tranny in goofy stance. so giving him the smallest benefit of the doubt, he was probably skating regular for at least one year before he started skating tranny in goofy stance. that would give him five years to learn kickflip lipslides on rails from scratch, which seems kinda fast to me but idk. unless you're saying you think he's literally lying about starting out regular, that he actually started skating as a goofy skater?
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: zuma on September 21, 2016, 01:40:46 AM
hyped on the man! i always loved this!

ronnie creager had this wheels of fortune in i think 411 4 and i remember not knowing which way he skated... boulalas early years switch skating comes to mind... i think rodney mullen doesn t have a stance these days

it also reminded me of this lavar clip always hyped me because of that
LV X Pier 7 on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/24365504)
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: plod on September 21, 2016, 09:00:28 PM
This dude used to show up to my local St Kilda in Melbourne a lot last year. Since he was only skating transition at the park I never noticed his switch powers but he fucking ripped the bowl regardless.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: asakusa75 on September 22, 2016, 06:00:55 AM
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nah with this dude if it's regular in tranny or goofy in street then it's switch. he is the first (great) skater to have two legit stances. i like that he himself doesn't try to say he's doing a switch 540 there. also funny how he kicks his board into the bowl in celebration while a dude is doing a run in there
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My thoughts exactly. Switch is "the other stance" as opposed to how you usually skate. This guy skates bowls goofy, always, so this 540 isn't switch for him. He has a street stance and a separate tranny stance, so what is switch for him would have to be defined against the relevant separate stance in any given trick - which is not to say that that isn't crazy as fuck in itself.

No matter how much we talk around in circles, its always going to come back to this.
The core argument here is that homie is crazy as fuck. We are never going to figure it out or come up with an explanation that is satisfactory for everyone.
For me, I trip the fuck out every clip I see. I love his shit...and I can't pinpoint exactly why either. Most likely explanation is that it is just so mind boggling, so far from anything I have ever done, and I grew up skating transition. No way I am casually going to throw a switch backside air over a hip.
Maybe in ten years, a whole bunch of kids will have no stance?
Then it will really be time for me to sit on my front porch, drink ice cold brewchachos and talk about the good old days, when kids were goofy and natural.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: too much on September 23, 2016, 05:18:48 PM
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Dude seems like he could turn pro but his gimmick is super lame with the both stances and swag kit/shitty rap vibe...There are lots of examples of pro street skaters doing switch and nollie tricks where they don't look switch...i.e. Wade Desarmo and Erik Ellington...There are also lots of examples of pro's who predominately skate street switch because it's more fun and then we debate is it really switch for Guy or really switch for Baptista?

This Venice loc has good style, good bag of tricks, and all terrain but he has a gimmick....he should drop the gimmick and admit he's goofy. I have nothing wrong with switch flip fs lip slides that don't look switch...same with switch flip fs crooks...nothing wrong with doing tricks so well or learning how to do switch tricks where they don't look switch.

But what is really fucking annoying is claiming you skate different stances for different obstacles....it makes the footage nausiating to think about. It's not that intriguing to think so deeply about his stance to be honest. I think it's almost entering fuccboi territory for real...like he's playing us...so he should drop the gimmick, imo.
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nah. sammy might be better at skating street goofy, but he's not killing tranny in regular. and not one of those other dudes you mentioned--or anyone else, ever--is better in switch on a different type of terrain than they are regular. dudes you mentioned are ambidextrous, maybe. not this dude though--he has two stances. can't skate either terrain equally in each stance like those dudes can.

he doesn't give an exact timeline in his interview, but he says he grew up skating hawthorne park in regular stance with theotis, louie, and antwuan (witnesses?). he then moved to venice with his homie fouryears ago and started skating tranny in goofy stance. so giving him the smallest benefit of the doubt, he was probably skating regular for at least one year before he started skating tranny in goofy stance. that would give him five years to learn kickflip lipslides on rails from scratch, which seems kinda fast to me but idk. unless you're saying you think he's literally lying about starting out regular, that he actually started skating as a goofy skater?

Yeah he's bullshitting everyone. He just started fucking with both stances and got good real quick but it's obvious he has a preferred one. It's not like he's bossing up like Bob Burnquist and fucking shit up both stances at Venice.

I just don't think it's IMPOSSIBLE to skate street all switch and mimic your switch skating to look regs. Lots of people seem to differ with that opinion and think no way no one can only skate switch and make it look regs. He's just new generation being all out spoken with his I skate tranny goofy and street regular...ok...got it...that's really not that gnar...it's just something different to write about or feature...
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: jayrolla420 on September 23, 2016, 05:24:13 PM
Okay. So now that we know he's regular this opens up a whole new can of philosophical worms. Do these airs and the 360 flip over the fence really count as switch tricks, given that they don't feel switch to him and don't look switch to us? That is to say: What are the necessary and sufficient conditions for a trick being switch? Does the switchness of a trick lie in a property of that trick itself, or in how it is perceived by outside observers? Food for thought indeed.
I've always thought you get less cred for doing switch tricks that you can't do regular well.  Switch fs bigspins come to mind.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: too much on September 23, 2016, 05:25:09 PM
He's literally saying "I can't do this" "I can't do that".....bullshit "I can ONLY skate pools goofy." "I can ONLY skate street regular."

He's limiting his shit...like Richie Jackson or any of those cats throughout the years

That is a gimmick
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: beat! on September 23, 2016, 05:29:33 PM
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Okay. So now that we know he's regular this opens up a whole new can of philosophical worms. Do these airs and the 360 flip over the fence really count as switch tricks, given that they don't feel switch to him and don't look switch to us? That is to say: What are the necessary and sufficient conditions for a trick being switch? Does the switchness of a trick lie in a property of that trick itself, or in how it is perceived by outside observers? Food for thought indeed.
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I've always thought you get less cred for doing switch tricks that you can't do regular well.  Switch fs bigspins come to mind.

i believe it... i can't skate tranny regular but I don't take credit for it being switch since it doesn't feel like it. I can only sw wallride but i always just call it a wallride and i kinda get bummed when people get stoked on it being "switch."
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Swithflip on September 23, 2016, 07:12:08 PM
This dude is totaly goofy. His regular street is forced as fuck, just to say his tranny is switch. Look at that 50 50 attempts, that is clearly switch.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: too much on September 23, 2016, 10:18:55 PM
His regular street is forced as fuck

He's mongo as fuck
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Logan Lewis on October 06, 2016, 08:10:10 PM
This dude is totaly goofy. His regular street is forced as fuck, just to say his tranny is switch. Look at that 50 50 attempts, that is clearly switch.

he skimboards regular though hahaha notice on his insta
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Esquivel on October 07, 2016, 06:02:54 AM
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Okay. So now that we know he's regular this opens up a whole new can of philosophical worms. Do these airs and the 360 flip over the fence really count as switch tricks, given that they don't feel switch to him and don't look switch to us? That is to say: What are the necessary and sufficient conditions for a trick being switch? Does the switchness of a trick lie in a property of that trick itself, or in how it is perceived by outside observers? Food for thought indeed.
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I've always thought you get less cred for doing switch tricks that you can't do regular well.  Switch fs bigspins come to mind.
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i believe it... i can't skate tranny regular but I don't take credit for it being switch since it doesn't feel like it. I can only sw wallride but i always just call it a wallride and i kinda get bummed when people get stoked on it being "switch."

same here with my kickflips. i can do switch flips infinitely better than the regs and also get bummed when people appreciate the "switchness"

this guy is cool for not bragging about how those tranny tricks are switch and as Asakuza said, watching him skate is mind boggling. for me (shitty on transition) its super fun to watch his shoulder/hip positioning every time he does a trick, on tranny or street. its like watching a legit documentary about "skating's weirdest". and if people don't think his skating is gnarly they should go try some 540's, unpadded on concrete. don't need to be switch, i take regs too
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: RoaryMcTwang on February 03, 2017, 08:57:09 PM
Warning: This clip is on the annoying side, even for the Berrics.

Leandre Sanders - The Man With No Stance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxPG0ApNL6E#)

Good to see the dude getting some exposure though, he seems nice and genuine and his skating is tight.
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: Hypnotoad on February 03, 2017, 09:57:17 PM
^^^shit's friggin fascinating
Title: Re: Never seen anything like this
Post by: dirty ol man on February 04, 2017, 09:16:24 PM
as expected the berrics has to take the mystique out of this kid.

he'd drop a part without clarification shit would have spread like wildfire.