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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: Casey Jones on July 19, 2016, 01:25:18 PM
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A few of the reason's make a pretty good case. But a lot of them are completely irrelevant to the point, though true about skateboarding and I guess worth noting somewhere.
http://www.rippedlaces.com/2016/07/is-skateboarding-a-sport-30-reasons-why-it-isnt/ (http://www.rippedlaces.com/2016/07/is-skateboarding-a-sport-30-reasons-why-it-isnt/)
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This whole "skateboarding's not a sport" deal is as embarrassing as "skateboarding's not a crime." Anyone who takes this article seriously or has "deep" conversations on the subject is petulant.
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Do you see dancing as a sport? If your answer is yes, then you see skateboarding as a sport.
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Do you see dancing as a sport? If your answer is yes, then you see skateboarding as a sport.
I see dancing as skateboarding
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f9ItCoey0k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f9ItCoey0k)
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don't fucking drag Gesmer into your shitty threads casey
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Nike disagrees with this article
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The only reason why I think skateboarding can be in the Olympics is cause skating contest have always been around forever well before the X-Games even existed. The only reason why the contests ended was because mainstream skating died back then. It's just weird to think contest get so much shit when people didn't protest it when Slam City Jam or Tampa was doing it. They all got money and some sort of trophy. That is as sporty as it gets.
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some of that stuff in that article is not accurate. Im not into football but you gotta admit there a lot of risk of injury there
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Judging street and transition is subjective just like gymnastics. I've said this a bunch but the only way to have a clear winner in Olympic skateboarding is to have measurable events like high ollie/air/hippy jump, downhill race, slalom, barrel jumping. It should be mandatory that all skaters enter all events. I'd love to see nineja and prod traing for giant slalom and barrel jumping
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I find it strange that one of the arguments against skateboarding as a sport is that its a "lifestyle". If someone is super dedicated and obsessed with baseball, I'm sure you can build a lifestyle around it.. As well as play for fun or just to improve your skills, even a traditional sport like that doesn't need to be competitive.
This whole thing seems to stem from people being attached to labels. "Sport" "art" "lifestyle", who cares! You get on a board and do what you like. Some people like to stack themselves up against each other, some wanna push into the sunset and grab a beer.. at the end of the day, its all skateboarding.
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Skateboarding isn't a sport because when I'm in these streets I don't play
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Skateboarding isn't a sport because when I'm in these streets I don't play
Aint no game out here.. gotta take life seriously.
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I find it strange that one of the arguments against skateboarding as a sport is that its a "lifestyle". If someone is super dedicated and obsessed with baseball, I'm sure you can build a lifestyle around it..
I agree. Sort of the same reason why hockey players are so different from basketball players, who are different from golfers and so on. All different sports breed different types of people to a degree. Even within the extreme sports genre, snowboarders and BMXers are so different from skaters. The lifestyle statement just seems too general to say that is why skateboarding shouldn't be in the Olympics.
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Ha, not a 'sport'. Ballet not a sport, surfing is not a sport, but all these can be sports if you want that. Aside from being art, really skateboarding is a spiritual practice, blood relative a surfing which was born in Hawaii and to a smaller degree Tahiti many thousands of years ago and was practiced by both men and women. Missionaries banned surfing because of it's religious ties to Hawaiin warrior culture. By what some people are arguing, anything that involves getting up off you're ass is a 'sport' but this is not true.
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Ha, not a 'sport'. Ballet not a sport, surfing is not a sport, but all these can be sports if you want that. Aside from being art, really skateboarding is a spiritual practice, blood relative a surfing which was born in Hawaii and to a smaller degree Tahiti many thousands of years ago and was practiced by both men and women. Missionaries banned surfing because of it's religious ties to Hawaiin warrior culture.
I now need more information on how surfing was tied to Hawaiian spirituality.
I support skating as a spiritual practice. This is the next big boom, skate or die will eventually become skate to understand.
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It's out there, how they made the boards was by finding a special tree and praying and singing at the tree for a year and doing all this stuff for the tree before you made a surfboard out of it. Some breaks and some types of equipment were only to be riddin by royalty. They had stone stands for watching the action. When the surf was 'up' the tools went down for a day or more until the sick surf subsided.
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Skateboarding is a hobby.
A hobby that has consumed my life for the past 35 years.
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It's out there, how they made the boards was by finding a special tree and praying and singing at the tree for a year and doing all this stuff for the tree before you made a surfboard out of it. Some breaks and some types of equipment were only to be riddin by royalty. They had stone stands for watching the action. When the surf was 'up' the tools went down for a day or more until the sick surf subsided.
Here's a good little tidbit form some surf guy: The samoans only rode lying down, the maori had a thin body board they rode. Tahitians stood and rode lying down, its them that are believed to have gone into the uninhabited Hawaiian islands (around 1000+ years ago) and fell in love with surfing.
They felt that by swimming, fishing, sailing, they would please their gods of the sea. But surfing: this beautiful thing, that did nothing but look so graceful and beautiful, was one of the highest ways to honour their gods.
So to translate that to dirt and concrete:
They felt that by running, farming, and traveling, they would please our gods of the land. But skateboarding: this beautiful thing, that did nothing but look so graceful and beautiful, was one of the highest ways to honour their gods.
Honour the land, glide around on a piece of wood.
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If Ian MacKaye says skateboarding isn't a sport, who the fuck am I to argue?
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Here's another bit of info: hundreds (even thousands) of years ago people would hold competitions and even gamble on surfing events.
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Damn, why'd they have to stop at 30?
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^OH FUCK ! - that does sound like a 'sport' zimmerman (oh well)
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Here's another bit of info: hundreds (even thousands) of years ago people would hold competitions and even gamble on surfing events.
Where the fuck is your proof? Links or a well told story please.
Skateboarding is stunts, flat out....the skate community is dominated by dumb jocks which is why we have this fucking debate. Own up to it and take pride in being a real life stunt man. This ain't surfing, it ain't snowboarding, and it definitely isn't high school sports.
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^OH FUCK ! - that does sound like a 'sport' zimmerman (oh well)
Another quote from a surf guy:
"One queen would say to the other king: I've got six war canoes and you've got 100 pigs, lets bet and see who's got the better surf family." They were based on style, speed, and the size of the wave. Particularly the style and grace."
Yup sounds like a sport, not competitive in the same way as hockey or basketball, but sport nonetheless.
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Here's another bit of info: hundreds (even thousands) of years ago people would hold competitions and even gamble on surfing events.
Where the fuck is your proof? Links or a well told story please.
Skateboarding is stunts, flat out....the skate community is dominated by dumb jocks which is why we have this fucking debate. Own up to it and take pride in being a real life stunt man. This ain't surfing, it ain't snowboarding, and it definitely isn't high school sports.
These quotes are from this guy (who sounds like he knows what he's talking about, but I'm not a surfer so who knows): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylg1EZKHgr4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylg1EZKHgr4)
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According to Webster's dictionary: Simple Definition of sport: a contest or game in which people do certain physical activities according to a specific set of rules and compete against each other.
Sport
(http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/batb-9_z0bidf.png)
Sport
(http://streetleague.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/street_league_portland_prelims_34.jpg)
Not sport
(http://ollie.aws.owta.net/pixelstv/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2014/11/Screen-Shot-2014-11-05-at-08.03.31.jpg)
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If Ian MacKaye says skateboarding isn't a sport, who the fuck am I to argue?
That's a pretty good outlook to have I reckon
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Even questioning skateboarding as a sport is bad. Since you're automatically limiting the concept of it.
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^OH FUCK ! - that does sound like a 'sport' zimmerman (oh well)
Another quote from a surf guy:
"One queen would say to the other king: I've got six war canoes and you've got 100 pigs, lets bet and see who's got the better surf family." They were based on style, speed, and the size of the wave. Particularly the style and grace."
Yup sounds like a sport, not competitive in the same way as hockey or basketball, but sport nonetheless.
No way...more like let's trade...the whole comparing the ancient Hawaiian culture of surfing to skateboarding is ridiculous but there is a small connection possibly which is the mystery. The maneuvers we are about to do, what we are searching for is a mystery. Sort of like the paranormal-ness of the Hawaiians chanting to their gods in their ritual with surfing, and every detail that goes with it. Whatever mythological god they're believing in while surfing there has to be a presence of that in skateboarding. Skateboarders have talked about all these feelings and emotions skateboarding gives you for decades but skateboarding has never pinpointed it on a mythological god. We always just say it's skateboarding. Yet we share this same connection with the ancient Hawaiians in the soul aspect. Maybe it's gravity I don't know some force in nature that is so weak but at times so strong it seems like a god, but we have never once had some god we say is with us while skateboarding. But what I'm getting at the real point, took a while, is how many ancient Hawaiian legends where they were able to put their soul onto rocks, stones, and different places, so most likely there are ancient Hawaiian surf gods in skateboarding, since skating is from surfing, the ancient Hawaiian gods have transferred over.
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What a terrible fucking article. I am opposed to skating being in the olympics and I don't like the sportification of skating one bit but this article was just plain shit.
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According to Webster's dictionary: Simple Definition of sport: a contest or game in which people do certain physical activities according to a specific set of rules and compete against each other.
Sport
(http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/batb-9_z0bidf.png)
Sport
(http://streetleague.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/street_league_portland_prelims_34.jpg)
Not sport
(http://ollie.aws.owta.net/pixelstv/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2014/11/Screen-Shot-2014-11-05-at-08.03.31.jpg)
Yup, it's what you make of it. Skateboarding isn't owned by anyone. Nobody can say definitively that skateboarding is/isn't a sport, they can only say what skateboarding is to themselves. that's the beauty of the damn thing.
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Who cares if skating is considered a sport? Why does this matter to people?
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^OH FUCK ! - that does sound like a 'sport' zimmerman (oh well)
Another quote from a surf guy:
"One queen would say to the other king: I've got six war canoes and you've got 100 pigs, lets bet and see who's got the better surf family." They were based on style, speed, and the size of the wave. Particularly the style and grace."
Yup sounds like a sport, not competitive in the same way as hockey or basketball, but sport nonetheless.
No way...more like let's trade...the whole comparing the ancient Hawaiian culture of surfing to skateboarding is ridiculous but there is a small connection possibly which is the mystery. The maneuvers we are about to do, what we are searching for is a mystery. Sort of like the paranormal-ness of the Hawaiians chanting to their gods in their ritual with surfing, and every detail that goes with it. Whatever mythological god they're believing in while surfing there has to be a presence of that in skateboarding. Skateboarders have talked about all these feelings and emotions skateboarding gives you for decades but skateboarding has never pinpointed it on a mythological god. We always just say it's skateboarding. Yet we share this same connection with the ancient Hawaiians in the soul aspect. Maybe it's gravity I don't know some force in nature that is so weak but at times so strong it seems like a god, but we have never once had some god we say is with us while skateboarding. But what I'm getting at the real point, took a while, is how many ancient Hawaiian legends where they were able to put their soul onto rocks, stones, and different places, so most likely there are ancient Hawaiian surf gods in skateboarding, since skating is from surfing, the ancient Hawaiian gods have transferred over.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-I2CHVc90QNg/UCpdHO9C8QI/AAAAAAAABUE/O1-YYq1AiEc/s1600/db1.JPG)
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Skateboarding isn't a sport because when I'm in these streets I don't play
+1
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wtf is everyones problem with benihanas these days anyway
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Who cares if skating is considered a sport? Why does this matter to people?
You have no idea how annoying is when I explain someone or an insurance company I was skating and then the response and counter question always is "so you were training?". Fuck, hell no, I was skating. I never "train" in skateboarding, I learn tricks from time to time and just skate, I never train. Also I want to be as far as possible to be associated with the jock mentality, not because "it ain't cool" or I want to be "the art guy", but because I can't relate myself or anything I do with sports in the slightest.
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I wish I wasn't fed this bullshit down my throat all my years when I had the chance to skate everyday. Of course it is a fucking sport. It is a very physically demanding activity and you progress by repetition. Sure, some are naturally gifted and some come into skateboarding with excellent physical abilities gained by previous activities.
For me, a nerdy kid who never played much sports and fell in love with skating, progress was slow. And much of it was down to my lack of strength and the easy going attitude of skateboarding. Ironically, we are inspired by those who excel, yet we scoff at the mention of "training". What is mastering a kickflip down to 99.9% success rate so you can do combos other than fucking training?
I wish we gave kids that want to excel props for working hard on tricks not their image. We don't need to many contests and fuck sponsorship. Let us worship those who can productively use their skateboarding time and manage to work and study at the same time. Now we are breeding generations upon generations of gifted, yet misguided kids that battle for the sponsorship dollars. 99.9% of them never make it and are robbed of a good start in adult life.
TL:DR; Yes, it's a fucking sport. If you wan't to play into the whole artsy aspect of it, you first have to know how to wield the brush aka how to use you legs for tricks.
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Let us worship those who can productively use their skateboarding time and manage to work and study at the same time.
What the fuck! You need to get back to your roots.. For instance, its 6am right now, I'm drinking vodka and getting ready for a day of getting high (maybe a little skating).
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What a terrible fucking article. I am opposed to skating being in the olympics and I don't like the sportification of skating one bit but this article was just plain shit.
some of that stuff in that article is not accurate.
This whole "skateboarding's not a sport" deal is as embarrassing as "skateboarding's not a crime." Anyone who takes this article seriously or has "deep" conversations on the subject is petulant.
Ripped Laces are so fucking embarrasing. Sometimes they have great content but that's only 20% of their content.
How many stupid shoes mashups do we need?
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According to Webster's dictionary: Simple Definition of sport: a contest or game in which people do certain physical activities according to a specific set of rules and compete against each other.
Sport
(http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/batb-9_z0bidf.png)
Sport
(http://streetleague.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/street_league_portland_prelims_34.jpg)
Not sport
(http://ollie.aws.owta.net/pixelstv/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2014/11/Screen-Shot-2014-11-05-at-08.03.31.jpg)
This. When it's part of a competition, it's a sport. Otherwise it's just a fun and exciting activity. The debate should be whether it's desirable that skateboarding become predominantly a competitive sport or stick to its roots of being an outside culture.
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Don't keep it real with your insurance company you dipshits tell them yes, you hurt yourself participating in sport/training because they have deductibles for that shit and can you send you to sports medicine doctors who specialize in the injury you got not playing a sport.
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SPEED FREAKS 1989 Santa Cruz Skateboards FULL VIDEO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2T0_YIvLP8#)
> skip to 5:00
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I wish I wasn't fed this bullshit down my throat all my years when I had the chance to skate everyday. Of course it is a fucking sport. It is a very physically demanding activity and you progress by repetition. Sure, some are naturally gifted and some come into skateboarding with excellent physical abilities gained by previous activities.
For me, a nerdy kid who never played much sports and fell in love with skating, progress was slow. And much of it was down to my lack of strength and the easy going attitude of skateboarding. Ironically, we are inspired by those who excel, yet we scoff at the mention of "training". What is mastering a kickflip down to 99.9% success rate so you can do combos other than fucking training?
I wish we gave kids that want to excel props for working hard on tricks not their image. We don't need to many contests and fuck sponsorship. Let us worship those who can productively use their skateboarding time and manage to work and study at the same time. Now we are breeding generations upon generations of gifted, yet misguided kids that battle for the sponsorship dollars. 99.9% of them never make it and are robbed of a good start in adult life.
TL:DR; Yes, it's a fucking sport. If you wan't to play into the whole artsy aspect of it, you first have to know how to wield the brush aka how to use you legs for tricks.
I sort of agree...same with racing being called an "AutoSport". I mean a car isn't a game or anything, the race aspect is a large part of it as well as the "tuning" aspect, and there are really no points. its really about the drivers feel of the mechanics of the car, kind of like a skaters feel of the mechanics of a piece of wood.
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This again?
It's like when the nerds try to decide what is and isn't hip hop.