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Title: Gardening
Post by: Mad Max on April 13, 2017, 12:30:23 PM
Seeing as there was some cool feedback in the beekeeping thread, I figured I'd throw a gardening one in the mix.
Here's my problem if anyone can help.

I want to replant a berry bush elsewhere in the garden, but the plot where I started to dig unearthed a thick layer of charcoal pebbles.
Basically there's about a foot of earth and then at least two or three feet of charcoal. I stopped digging when I realized I'd reached a layer rather than a random patch.

I'm wondering if I can just plant the bush there and the thing will still grow?
I know you can add charcoal to your soil to improve the nutrient absorption of the plants, but this looks like it might be a bit extreme...
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: 20matar on April 13, 2017, 05:11:15 PM
Once, I tried to plant some sunflowers. They grew to be kinda ugly, then they withered and died. Now I don't even think about it, since it's the Easter Bunny's yard now... and I'm sure he'd love to chomp on my sunflowers. I like my bunny better than any flower, though.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: shark tits on April 13, 2017, 05:47:59 PM
i'm not for sure, mad max. maybe you could hollow out enough room for your berry's roots and buy a bag of dirt w/ nutrients and hope it doesn't branch out into no man's land?
i had some nice sunflowers last yr for my bees and cockblocking squirrels would climb up and behead them. decapitate and bring the flower home to squirrel's lair to mow down. i got wise though and sprayed the stalks w/ hot pepper/garlic water but you've gotta be on it after a rainfall.
my perennials are starting to come back to life.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Monty Burns on April 14, 2017, 08:28:32 PM
Been in the que to get a small gardening plot (about 100 square meters). Almost had one now in April but some people before me in the que got it. Was hoping to get bees on there but that seems against the rules so Im just gonna grow veggies there.

Was thinking now in the start or based on how limited my time is Id start with a wide range of berries. Raspberries, Blueberries, Blackberries and some other stuff. Just to get something kicking that could handle itself mostly by themselves.

Later maybe carrots, grapes, potatoes, rhubarb, wild garlic, and more stuff.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: SodaJerk on April 15, 2017, 04:50:54 AM
Been in the que to get a small gardening plot (about 100 square meters). Almost had one now in April but some people before me in the que got it. Was hoping to get bees on there but that seems against the rules so Im just gonna grow veggies there.

Was thinking now in the start or based on how limited my time is Id start with a wide range of berries. Raspberries, Blueberries, Blackberries and some other stuff. Just to get something kicking that could handle itself mostly by themselves.

Later maybe carrots, grapes, potatoes, rhubarb, wild garlic, and more stuff.
Surely you could spend an afternoon foraging for berries and keep the plot for things that are harder to find in the wild.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: ChronicBluntSlider on April 15, 2017, 04:59:10 AM
I've been reverting the yard back to nature w a native plant garden, which around here includes, oaks, sage, buckwheat, etc. The plan is to attract birds and wildlife and to feel like I'm camping when I chill in the yard. Also no money spent on water, lawn mower, poisons, any of that suburbanite bullshit.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: somethingmustbreaknow on April 15, 2017, 05:06:05 AM
"I keep telling you, I just grow sorghum here"
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Prison Wallet on April 15, 2017, 06:56:51 AM
Seeing as there was some cool feedback in the beekeeping thread, I figured I'd throw a gardening one in the mix.
Here's my problem if anyone can help.

I want to replant a berry bush elsewhere in the garden, but the plot where I started to dig unearthed a thick layer of charcoal pebbles.
Basically there's about a foot of earth and then at least two or three feet of charcoal. I stopped digging when I realized I'd reached a layer rather than a random patch.

I'm wondering if I can just plant the bush there and the thing will still grow?
I know you can add charcoal to your soil to improve the nutrient absorption of the plants, but this looks like it might be a bit extreme...

Charcoal makes the soil alkaline so you've got to figure out if your native soil is alkaline or acidic, and if berries you want to plant like alkaline or acidic soil. I'm in the desert southwest so our soil and water are both alkaline. To grow something like berries I'd have to add a bunch of compost and maybe something like fish meal to bring down the soil ph. Using collected rainwater instead of tap water helps out too.

Do you have a good garden shop nearby? If so maybe go chat up the workers about your situation and see if they can recommend a good soil mix.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Mad Max on April 15, 2017, 10:00:50 AM
Ha ha! Thanks for the feedback guys.
I'm a complete gardening novice but our house has one so I think it's about time to learn.
I guess I'm going to have to check the soil ph levels.
It's a red currant bush I'm thinking of moving.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Monty Burns on April 15, 2017, 10:03:25 AM
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Been in the que to get a small gardening plot (about 100 square meters). Almost had one now in April but some people before me in the que got it. Was hoping to get bees on there but that seems against the rules so Im just gonna grow veggies there.

Was thinking now in the start or based on how limited my time is Id start with a wide range of berries. Raspberries, Blueberries, Blackberries and some other stuff. Just to get something kicking that could handle itself mostly by themselves.

Later maybe carrots, grapes, potatoes, rhubarb, wild garlic, and more stuff.
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Surely you could spend an afternoon foraging for berries and keep the plot for things that are harder to find in the wild.

Hmm Ill think about it !
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: brycickle on April 15, 2017, 05:32:19 PM
Don't be the asshole that plants black berries in the community garden.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: EXTRA SPICY on April 16, 2017, 06:43:41 AM
I've been reverting the yard back to nature w a native plant garden, which around here includes, oaks, sage, buckwheat, etc. The plan is to attract birds and wildlife and to feel like I'm camping when I chill in the yard. Also no money spent on water, lawn mower, poisons, any of that suburbanite bullshit.

You in surcal my guy?
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: ChronicBluntSlider on April 16, 2017, 09:44:34 AM
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I've been reverting the yard back to nature w a native plant garden, which around here includes, oaks, sage, buckwheat, etc. The plan is to attract birds and wildlife and to feel like I'm camping when I chill in the yard. Also no money spent on water, lawn mower, poisons, any of that suburbanite bullshit.
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You in surcal my guy?

Northeast LA like close to the san Gabriel mountains. So basically trying to copy what I see walking in the hills and along the river around here. For anybody in the area Theodore Payne foundation in sun valley is great for native plants and there's a spot at watershed park in Pasadena.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: colin on April 16, 2017, 11:54:19 AM
Definitely a good idea to capture that rainwater - that's the only stuff I like to use in my compost bin, so that the chlorine and fluoride of tap water aren't in there to kill the beneficial bugs. Also, a little pee in your compost bin is the secret to higher temps. Shredding junk mail is a great way to get your browns, but no glossy stuff. Banana peels and coffee grounds straight on top of your dirt.

Rhubarb is tight because it's hella hardy and a perennial

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj300/cpmorgan5000/Rhubarb_1.jpg)

Garlic is tight because in norther climes you plant it in the late fall - I've also had some organic stuff that sprouted on my counter, popped that in the ground, and in about a week I had a shoot coming up - this was during the spring.

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj300/cpmorgan5000/Garlic_1.jpg)

I made these planters out of sections of discarded fence

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj300/cpmorgan5000/Planter.jpg)

I think there are some effective and cheap gardening tips in Fight Club, though I have yet to use them all.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: EXTRA SPICY on April 16, 2017, 07:34:00 PM
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I've been reverting the yard back to nature w a native plant garden, which around here includes, oaks, sage, buckwheat, etc. The plan is to attract birds and wildlife and to feel like I'm camping when I chill in the yard. Also no money spent on water, lawn mower, poisons, any of that suburbanite bullshit.
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You in surcal my guy?
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Northeast LA like close to the san Gabriel mountains. So basically trying to copy what I see walking in the hills and along the river around here. For anybody in the area Theodore Payne foundation in sun valley is great for native plants and there's a spot at watershed park in Pasadena.


Check your PM box.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on April 16, 2017, 07:57:24 PM
no quite there yet but definitely looking at properties up in the hills so that we can start getting self-sufficient. Want to go full organic/ am contemplating permaculture
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: shark tits on May 01, 2017, 05:42:00 PM
yeah colin! looking tight, pal. this video is too zoomed in but basically it's my blueberries in the distance w/ strawberries under them, then i planted spinach, cabbage, yellow squash, sugar snap peas, kale and broccoli today as well as a bunch of seeds. found an onion w/ sprouts in someone's yard so i took it home, peeled some layers and planted that bitch too.
and 11 marijuana plants i had indoors. gardening ain't skating but it's still a big part of my spring-summer. gonna try watermelon later in the year, excited about that!
garden life (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8b9l99DKrk#)
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: kook nukem on May 01, 2017, 09:38:39 PM
Fuck gardening. I officially gave up today. Been trying to grow some herbs, but I've killed everything. It should be a relaxing hobby, but it's too damn stressful. Sticking to shit I can't kill so easily (aloe, succulents, bamboo, cacti).
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: straight on May 01, 2017, 09:41:18 PM
Fuck gardening. I officially gave up today. Been trying to grow some herbs, but I've killed everything. It should be a relaxing hobby, but it's too damn stressful. Sticking to shit I can't kill so easily (aloe, succulents, bamboo, cacti).

seems you treat your plants like your lady
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: kook nukem on May 01, 2017, 09:57:41 PM
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Fuck gardening. I officially gave up today. Been trying to grow some herbs, but I've killed everything. It should be a relaxing hobby, but it's too damn stressful. Sticking to shit I can't kill so easily (aloe, succulents, bamboo, cacti).
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seems you treat your plants like your lady

Guess that's why I opt for low maintenance in both.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on May 01, 2017, 11:40:02 PM
yeah colin! looking tight, pal. this video is too zoomed in but basically it's my blueberries in the distance w/ strawberries under them, then i planted spinach, cabbage, yellow squash, sugar snap peas, kale and broccoli today as well as a bunch of seeds. found an onion w/ sprouts in someone's yard so i took it home, peeled some layers and planted that bitch too.
and 11 marijuana plants i had indoors. gardening ain't skating but it's still a big part of my spring-summer. gonna try watermelon later in the year, excited about that!
fuck yes dude! I would love to be able to grow all that myself
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: shark tits on June 28, 2017, 07:23:55 PM
i don't know where else to throw this but i like making labels more than i like the act of making jelly. they're all one offs but people like this one. fun fact, the jam is actually 90% mulberry but strawberry is more picturesque. i dig the hell out of canning and picking fruit, i just don't like boiling it in sugar so much. i tried store bought pectin but i prefer lemon zest X juice X apple skin.
my blueberries are green but i found some ripe wild ones today. gonna cook em into the next batch.
(http://i63.tinypic.com/2akielc.jpg)
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: colin on June 29, 2017, 06:48:45 PM
i don't know where else to throw this but i like making labels more than i like the act of making jelly. they're all one offs but people like this one. fun fact, the jam is actually 90% mulberry but strawberry is more picturesque. i dig the hell out of canning and picking fruit, i just don't like boiling it in sugar so much. i tried store bought pectin but i prefer lemon zest X juice X apple skin.
my blueberries are green but i found some ripe wild ones today. gonna cook em into the next batch.
(http://i63.tinypic.com/2akielc.jpg)

Dude, you are fucking killing it in the gardening game. I don't normally quote pictures, but this one was worth seeing twice.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: colin on July 19, 2017, 08:40:32 AM
I don't think it's of any real significance, but the other day every single pumpkin leaf had a border of water droplets:

(http://i63.tinypic.com/28jb3ev.jpg)
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: shark tits on August 01, 2017, 12:34:55 PM
that's a swell pumpkin leaf you got there, colin!
i liberated lumber last night and today i banged it into place, i wanna cover my grass in beds leaving only 2 feet path outlines around them. wide enough for a mower but i'd like to swap out mainstream grass for buckwheat, alfalfa, clover and whatever else bees fuck w/. the dirt in the top/right i dropped buckwheat seed on. we'll see if it take.
(http://i64.tinypic.com/23m5svt.jpg)
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: colin on August 19, 2017, 12:56:25 PM
that's a swell pumpkin leaf you got there, colin!
perhaps even more swell b/c it turns out none of the viney, large-leaf, huge-yellow-flower-havin plants we have growin in the backyard are actually pumpkins - they look almost identical, but they turned out to be zucchini and two different kind of squashes - all volunteers from seeds from our neighbor's garden last year.
oh well, I had some pretty good zucchini bread yesterday

Your planter boxes look really smart. good job, man
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: shark tits on August 19, 2017, 03:38:41 PM
rad! i've actually been eating mad zucchini bread myself!
filled out those boxes a little via compost and straw and planted some stuff, buckwheat is filling in towards the neighbor's driveway.
(https://s28.postimg.org/5rspyojzx/DSCN1620.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
this one's got the old garden/beehives
(https://s28.postimg.org/n6cy6yh4p/DSCN1621.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/n6cy6yh4p/)
this is today's harvest, stoked!
(https://s28.postimg.org/5qis59i65/DSCN1619.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: colin on August 28, 2017, 07:14:52 PM
(http://i65.tinypic.com/2ebfqsm.jpg)
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: brent on August 29, 2017, 05:34:37 AM
the hands resist him
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: shark tits on October 20, 2017, 10:35:35 AM
fall is upon us but i got greens still. got red and black tomatoes, sweet peas, onions, kale, red lettuce, rainbow chard, spinach and cabbage, all picked today. yard to table!
(http://i68.tinypic.com/vxkl5h.jpg)
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on October 20, 2017, 01:17:13 PM
This thread makes me smile.

All novices should plant rhubarb. Grows very quickly and easy as heck, and once you plant it you'll never need to plant it again
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: shark tits on June 09, 2018, 08:15:47 AM
i just picked a bowl of strawberries and some kale leaves. blended w/ a banana and i feel like a young the muska.
(http://i65.tinypic.com/35mgu9w.jpg)
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: brycickle on June 09, 2018, 10:41:29 PM
#fakejunkie
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: shark tits on June 23, 2018, 04:43:04 AM
wrong thread for that.
so i've had some wins/losses gardening this yr. weeded a bunch of asparagus cause i didn't recognize them, squirrels, rabbits, skunk and a whistlepig have been eating my greens and squash leaves before they can develop but i've had successes too. my blackberries i propagated from clippings at a public park are starting to have little red berries. got some good cherries, first yr of them.
birds in my blueberry net, aaack!
tomatoes and weed looking good.
so this morning i woke up and foraged my neighborhood, wild blueberries and mulberries i can put in jam.
(http://i66.tinypic.com/t71pjm.jpg)
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: shark tits on June 29, 2018, 07:22:08 AM
yo, i'm a big consumer of those odwalla 'B-monsters' [other brand has a 'B machine' and something else].
i made my own w/ blackberries and a banana.
i've got almost 30 1/2 lb jars of jam to last the winter so now i'm doing other stuff w/ fruit. strawberries are still turning but seem to have slowed down. tomato plants coming in strong. cushaw [holler squash] is finally turning the tide against rabbits aka getting too big to get chewed on.
(http://i66.tinypic.com/2wbz6l4.jpg)
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on June 29, 2018, 10:28:05 AM
My garden is getting fuckin pounded by rediculous weather this year, I'm surprised everything is doing ok.

It's hot and humid for two days, then it storms/heavy winds for 2-3 days, one you day, then rinse repeat.

Looks more like a mudpit than a garden.

My tomatoes and peppers are fuckin Killin it though so I'm stoked on that!

I don't plant any berries because we have local spots to pick from which is very convenient and nice.

Of course rhubarb is still going strong because nothing can fuck that shit up.

And I'm stoked we no longer have grass! Our entire yard is nettle, wild mint and dandelion with some odd patches of chive.

Oh and I've finally found my grandpa's selection for apple trees and found a source, so I'll be transplanting 4 apple trees I to our yard! They take 7-8 years to be good but all good things are worth the wait!
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: shark tits on June 29, 2018, 10:37:56 AM
cheers beta! no grass is a goal for me, some day. local bees are thankful i'm sure.
rest of it all sounds rad. too.
i've got little watermelon vines [i planted a lot from a local melon i ate] and only seen 3 so far but fingers crossed!
had good vines last yr but no fruit.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: schralp pal on June 29, 2018, 12:40:32 PM
I like this nettle mint and dandelion combo, I’ve seen pictures of mendo weed gardens with that as cover and it looks beautiful.  need to disrupt some crab grass in my back yard. Nettle and mint spreads
Quick but what did you use to get them
Going - seeds or starters?
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: pancake man on June 29, 2018, 01:12:47 PM
I'll have to get a picture of my brother and friend's small plot the next time I'm home. Homies are working with an acre, half being peppers for their old farm's Sriracha (https://www.kitchengardenfarm.com/) and then the other half is for themselves.

Edit: my younger brother is the guy on the left in the second picture if you click the link
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: shark tits on June 29, 2018, 05:18:06 PM
I'll have to get a picture of my brother and friend's small plot the next time I'm home. Homies are working with an acre, half being peppers for their old farm's Sriracha (https://www.kitchengardenfarm.com/) and then the other half is for themselves.

Edit: my younger brother is the guy on the left in the second picture if you click the link
that's rad! i'm in worcester, ma. my peppers were mostly uprooted by squirrels but i killed 4 this wk so that's backed em of. a little sweet chin music.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on June 30, 2018, 08:04:34 AM
I like this nettle mint and dandelion combo, I’ve seen pictures of mendo weed gardens with that as cover and it looks beautiful.  need to disrupt some crab grass in my back yard. Nettle and mint spreads
Quick but what did you use to get them
Going - seeds or starters?

Transplant a few, they grow like wildfire.

It's still not too late to have you yard filled by fall if you start asap.

And once it's there it's not fuckin leaving lol. Stuff grows crazy and is resistant to everything.

Also, mendo kills it. I wish I could use these plants in my grow. But I can't grow outdoors because I'm too close to a park, otherwise my yard would be full of cannabis lol
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: offkilter on June 30, 2018, 09:59:03 AM
Growing sugar snap peas is super easy and then you always have something quick to snack on out in the garden, it's great.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on June 30, 2018, 10:38:30 AM
Growing sugar snap peas is super easy and then you always have something quick to snack on out in the garden, it's great.

YES!

Best snack too
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: pugmaster on July 01, 2018, 11:23:46 AM
My garden is getting fuckin pounded by rediculous weather this year, I'm surprised everything is doing ok.

It's hot and humid for two days, then it storms/heavy winds for 2-3 days, one you day, then rinse repeat.

Looks more like a mudpit than a garden.

My tomatoes and peppers are fuckin Killin it though so I'm stoked on that!

I don't plant any berries because we have local spots to pick from which is very convenient and nice.

Of course rhubarb is still going strong because nothing can fuck that shit up.

And I'm stoked we no longer have grass! Our entire yard is nettle, wild mint and dandelion with some odd patches of chive.

Oh and I've finally found my grandpa's selection for apple trees and found a source, so I'll be transplanting 4 apple trees I to our yard! They take 7-8 years to be good but all good things are worth the wait!

What is the benefit of not having grass? Less maintenance and/or better for the ecosystem?
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: shark tits on July 01, 2018, 11:42:31 AM
grass is a piece of shit. it's on some 'keeping up w/ the joneses' lame ass conformist, doesn't provide flowers [food for bees] or fruit/veggies for us. it's just some ornamental shit that uses fossil fuels to keep in check. or roundup.
fuck grass and fuck anyone who grows grass.
i wanna make grass the SUV or MAGA hat or whatever people think is lame and offensive.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on July 01, 2018, 08:00:23 PM
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My garden is getting fuckin pounded by rediculous weather this year, I'm surprised everything is doing ok.

It's hot and humid for two days, then it storms/heavy winds for 2-3 days, one you day, then rinse repeat.

Looks more like a mudpit than a garden.

My tomatoes and peppers are fuckin Killin it though so I'm stoked on that!

I don't plant any berries because we have local spots to pick from which is very convenient and nice.

Of course rhubarb is still going strong because nothing can fuck that shit up.

And I'm stoked we no longer have grass! Our entire yard is nettle, wild mint and dandelion with some odd patches of chive.

Oh and I've finally found my grandpa's selection for apple trees and found a source, so I'll be transplanting 4 apple trees I to our yard! They take 7-8 years to be good but all good things are worth the wait!
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What is the benefit of not having grass? Less maintenance and/or better for the ecosystem?

Grass does nothing for the ecosystem. It doesn't help produce healthy soil. It's completely non functional and is purely cosmetic.

Herbs, flowers, fruits, veggies etc all provide major benefits to the ecosystem, make great soil, make great foods/teas/medicines and keep the pollinators pollinating.

Plus it looks fuckin better than grass anyhow if you kinda plan shit out nice.

Also it saves ALOT on the grocery bill and you know exactly what your eating. And trust that food you grow tastes a thousand fold what is available at the grocery store.

Plus it's badass to have friends over to eat and homies like, this dish could use some dill and chive, and you walk outside and grab some lol, or have it already hanging in the kitchen.

Also, if you drink, dandelion makes good wine.

Aaaand see the post above, that's spot on IMO
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: schralp pal on July 02, 2018, 10:27:01 AM
Mowed back the crab grass for hopefully the last time this summer, Put like 10 starts in of nettle and dandelion and transplanted some mint from somewhere else. They look very lonely compared to the grass but Im hopeful.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on July 02, 2018, 11:04:12 AM
Mowed back the crab grass for hopefully the last time this summer, Put like 10 starts in of nettle and dandelion and transplanted some mint from somewhere else. They look very lonely compared to the grass but Im hopeful.

Nice! Trust me it won't take long to spread and overthrow the remaining grass.

Then next year say goodbye to any grass
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: pugmaster on July 02, 2018, 03:14:56 PM
grass is a piece of shit. it's on some 'keeping up w/ the joneses' lame ass conformist, doesn't provide flowers [food for bees] or fruit/veggies for us. it's just some ornamental shit that uses fossil fuels to keep in check. or roundup.
fuck grass and fuck anyone who grows grass.
i wanna make grass the SUV or MAGA hat or whatever people think is lame and offensive.

Glad I asked.  I kind of want to yell at people from my truck now when I drive by and see them cutting their grass.  They probably won't hear me, but it will feel real good.


Picking fresh chive and other herbs when cooking sounds awesome.  Stores charge way too much for fresh herbs.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: shark tits on July 06, 2018, 01:11:38 PM
i've been homeless and i never was eating raw tomatoes but then  again, they weren't totally an option. our idea is to co-exist w/ the people living there and have a wild 'food forest' we all can nibble on. if you ain't got cookwear or utensils then fruit is better than veggies so i'd like to get some more sweets in the ground [yes tomatoes a fruit but i mean berries].
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulAIokqTmac
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: ungzilla on July 06, 2018, 02:34:05 PM
don't let the grass hate get out of hand!

there are thousands of species of native grasses that are ecologically sound and cool looking.

i'll assume your talking about lawn grasses and crab grass and so on and so forth though... and indeed, get that shit the heck outta here.

this is my favorite plant, toothache grass (Ctenium aromaticum).

(https://i.imgur.com/pr8ONqul.jpg)
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: shark tits on July 07, 2018, 12:37:39 PM
'hey, i don't care what you do w/ it once you're of my property.' i can't wait til my cushaw [holler squash] comes in. got 4 little watermelon vines too, if i get some fruit outta them, god bless! kinda hard in zone 5.
(http://i65.tinypic.com/24ovllu.jpg)
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: shark tits on July 12, 2018, 01:05:26 PM
i had to chuck a tenant for being a junkie, left behind a raspberry plant in a bucket. i put it in the ground last yr and this yr it's paying dividends. got a bunch of smaller ones i'm waiting on for berries.
pricker bushes are nature's fences.
(http://i68.tinypic.com/33vf9k4.jpg)
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: ungzilla on July 12, 2018, 01:29:28 PM
put your dick back in your pants
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: SHIREFLIP on July 15, 2018, 08:07:03 AM
i just picked a bowl of strawberries and some kale leaves. blended w/ a banana and i feel like a young the muska.
(http://i65.tinypic.com/35mgu9w.jpg)

YO!
My strawberry plants aren't really doing so well. The leaves are looking nice and green and full, but all of the flowers keep wilting and dying. I can't tell if I'm over/underwatering, or if maybe I planted them in a bad spot, or in bad soil? Maybe I'm not giving them the kind of attention they need? All of my other plants are thriving.

You got any sage wisdom to pass on?


Also, anybody got any suggestions for dealing with squirrels stealing my shit? I put up some chicken wire, and buried the bottom about two inches into the ground. Keep in mind I can't kill them where I live.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: shark tits on July 15, 2018, 08:22:07 AM
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i just picked a bowl of strawberries and some kale leaves. blended w/ a banana and i feel like a young the muska.
(http://i65.tinypic.com/35mgu9w.jpg)
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YO!
My strawberry plants aren't really doing so well. The leaves are looking nice and green and full, but all of the flowers keep wilting and dying. I can't tell if I'm over/underwatering, or if maybe I planted them in a bad spot, or in bad soil? Maybe I'm not giving them the kind of attention they need? All of my other plants are thriving.

You got any sage wisdom to pass on?


Also, anybody got any suggestions for dealing with squirrels stealing my shit? I put up some chicken wire, and buried the bottom about two inches into the ground. Keep in mind I can't kill them where I live.
strawberries love sun. i can't diagnose from here but i hit mine w/ water maybe 2 X a wk if no rain. they're hardy like a weed. having bees will make them fruit though. i used to get a few strawberries, they've really taken over my hill since i got bees.
squirrels? nature's vandals? fuck those guys! get you a trap for $20 or so [havahart] and kkkill the fetus! i live in the city w/ neighbors on all sides. don't shoot wild but point blank while it's in the trap. fuck those assholes. peanut butter in the trap and if you ain't got a rifle [pellet or otherwise] then drown them. or if you're an idealistic animal lover, drive em to the country and make em someone else's problem.
bunnies are smarter than my traps. they're my new bane.
idk where you are but my strawberries are done for the yr. they flare up all june like nature's herpes.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: SHIREFLIP on July 16, 2018, 05:40:14 PM
Winter ran really late here, so my guess is I planted the berries too late, which is why they look so sad compared to the plants that are harvested in the fall. That said, I'm buildin' me a squirrel catapult.
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Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on July 16, 2018, 08:26:56 PM
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i just picked a bowl of strawberries and some kale leaves. blended w/ a banana and i feel like a young the muska.
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YO!
My strawberry plants aren't really doing so well. The leaves are looking nice and green and full, but all of the flowers keep wilting and dying. I can't tell if I'm over/underwatering, or if maybe I planted them in a bad spot, or in bad soil? Maybe I'm not giving them the kind of attention they need? All of my other plants are thriving.

You got any sage wisdom to pass on?


Also, anybody got any suggestions for dealing with squirrels stealing my shit? I put up some chicken wire, and buried the bottom about two inches into the ground. Keep in mind I can't kill them where I live.

Of topic but grow sage
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: shark tits on July 16, 2018, 08:32:50 PM
i've got a little bit. peppermint too.
i did parsley last yr and dried it, made my own parsley flakes. kind of a lot of work for a cheap grocery item but satisfying nonetheless.
like to get some rosemary, maybe propagate some at my DIY.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on July 16, 2018, 08:34:56 PM
i've got a little bit. peppermint too.
i did parsley last yr and dried it, made my own parsley flakes. kind of a lot of work for a cheap grocery item but satisfying nonetheless.
like to get some rosemary, maybe propagate some at my DIY.

Dry the sage, burn it in a bowl in your house.

Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: SHIREFLIP on July 17, 2018, 08:46:04 AM
Why sage?

I've got some parsley, chives, mint, rosemary, thyme, oregano, basil, and cilantro going. I'm sure sage could join the party, but I'm not entirely sure what it is.

That said, there are some wild morning glory plants growing, and I may be wrong, but I think I recall somebody telling me their seeds are full of DMT or some manner of alkaloid similar in structure to tryptamines. I'll hit the books and report back. At the very least, I could potentially drug some squirrels.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on July 17, 2018, 10:30:54 AM
It's called smudging. Indigenous practised  and it just smells good
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: shark tits on July 18, 2018, 04:47:21 PM
first batch of cukes, pickled!
didn't boil the jar to a 'pop' [used jars] so prolly eat em in a month or so. got more cucumbers in the yard. i've been really into natural preserving of foods [basically pickling or jam] the last 2 yrs.
[thumb for scale, whole lotta pickles!]
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Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Shifty Flip on July 19, 2018, 09:59:05 AM
Why sage?

I've got some parsley, chives, mint, rosemary, thyme, oregano, basil, and cilantro going. I'm sure sage could join the party, but I'm not entirely sure what it is.

That said, there are some wild morning glory plants growing, and I may be wrong, but I think I recall somebody telling me their seeds are full of DMT or some manner of alkaloid similar in structure to tryptamines. I'll hit the books and report back. At the very least, I could potentially drug some squirrels.
Morning Glory seeds give you LSA. Best to mix with a lil mescaline and make those microdots proper.
DMT is in so many pants. Reed Canary Grass, and I know the "clothing dye" root has decreased in quality since ten years ago. DMT is literally everywhere in varying amounts.
My wife just reminded me when she first moved in with me if smoke a gram on deemsters in an evening and watch inhabitants on repeat. I'd totally forgotten that
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: I sniff Jim Gagne's butthole all the time on September 02, 2018, 01:51:58 PM
my rainbow carrots only came out white/yellow but my orange ones are thick as thieves!
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carrots, squash, tomatoes and okra. i've gotten a few shiitakes too, hope i get a full mushroom crop this fall.
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Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: I sniff Jim Gagne's butthole all the time on September 14, 2018, 05:33:24 PM
i soaked my mushrooms logs the other day. lion's mane is slow and reishi's are small too but 2 of my shiitake mushrooms are going off! this is one of them.
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Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: I sniff Jim Gagne's butthole all the time on September 19, 2018, 03:38:07 PM
cushaw for the great state of kentucky. i got a whole patch of em.
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Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: brent on September 19, 2018, 07:59:35 PM
you should be pushing up daisies instead of digging up vegetables
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Post by: I sniff Jim Gagne's butthole all the time on September 19, 2018, 08:44:53 PM
take that sass back to butt town, will ya?
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Post by: brycickle on September 19, 2018, 09:20:09 PM
you should be pushing up daisies instead of digging up vegetables
TYFYS
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Algar on April 12, 2020, 07:34:52 PM
Bumping this,

With all this shit going on and the extra free time and trying to go to the store less.  I am looking to start a container garden.  My girlfriend and I currently rent and she can get a ton of free 5 gallon buckets (from a cafe) so I think we are gonna grow some peppers, tomatoe, herbs, onions, cucumbers and probably more.

I'm pretty pumped about it.  I've wanted to get something going for a few years and it's finally working out.  Anyone got any suggestions or gardens of their own going that they'd like to share?  I'm pretty stoked on the idea of this too, it seems kind of liberating to take a basic need and do it yourself!
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Lou Skunt on April 14, 2020, 02:04:29 AM
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P9AAJkDy-BA
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: JANUS on April 14, 2020, 06:27:20 AM
I started some seeds in my closet a few weeks ago. Zucchini, tomatoes, mint, lemon balm, cucumbers, peppers, and some pot. Hopefully the squirrels don’t eat it all when it gets outside.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: CrumblingInfrastructure on April 26, 2020, 06:48:58 PM
I got Tomatoes, Peas, Bell Peppers, Broccoli, Cukes, Basil, Thyme, Rosemary, Carrots, Onions, and some Carrots in the planter boxes in my front yard. Its my first time doing any type of growing. I planted my shit wack as well so its gunna be interesting with the trellises. In pots I have Habanero, Ghost, and Jalapeno plants. (Quarantine made me ambitious haha). I got some extra shallow space for some more herbs, but I dont really know what would be good. Anyone got any recommendations?

Not expecting many of them to live since its my first time and I didnt do any research haha. Also its not so much gardening but whats some good stuff for indoor house plants? Im thinking succulents but if theres something I can plant and also use as a herb that would be rad.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Made In China on April 27, 2020, 05:24:43 PM
I've been trying to get into gardening but even though the house I live at has lots of room in the backyard, most of it is super overgrown with weeds and would take a crap ton of work to get going. My housemates and I have been trying to get a garden bed started, but we're lagging on it.

I'm super interested in starting plants in buckets and other bulky containers though. To those who do it, how do you deal with soil drainage? Do you cut holes into the bottom, or just water sparingly?
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: JANUS on April 27, 2020, 05:42:38 PM
I got Tomatoes, Peas, Bell Peppers, Broccoli, Cukes, Basil, Thyme, Rosemary, Carrots, Onions, and some Carrots in the planter boxes in my front yard. Its my first time doing any type of growing. I planted my shit wack as well so its gunna be interesting with the trellises. In pots I have Habanero, Ghost, and Jalapeno plants. (Quarantine made me ambitious haha). I got some extra shallow space for some more herbs, but I dont really know what would be good. Anyone got any recommendations?

Not expecting many of them to live since its my first time and I didnt do any research haha. Also its not so much gardening but whats some good stuff for indoor house plants? Im thinking succulents but if theres something I can plant and also use as a herb that would be rad.

Like it’s additional shallow soil, or it’s veeeery shallow? Because basil can grow well in minimal soil in my experience.

I've been trying to get into gardening but even though the house I live at has lots of room in the backyard, most of it is super overgrown with weeds and would take a crap ton of work to get going. My housemates and I have been trying to get a garden bed started, but we're lagging on it.

I'm super interested in starting plants in buckets and other bulky containers though. To those who do it, how do you deal with soil drainage? Do you cut holes into the bottom, or just water sparingly?

Cut holes if you can!
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: CrumblingInfrastructure on April 27, 2020, 06:21:35 PM
Its about 3 inches of store bought soil and underneath it is just my yard. I have a roto tiller so before I put the box in I tilled the fuck outta it. I figured id plant some herbs there since they have a better chance of surviving instead of more veggies.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: JANUS on April 28, 2020, 10:11:02 AM
Its about 3 inches of store bought soil and underneath it is just my yard. I have a roto tiller so before I put the box in I tilled the fuck outta it. I figured id plant some herbs there since they have a better chance of surviving instead of more veggies.

Yeah, you should be able to do herbs in there nicely, especially if the roots can grow down into the soil from your yard. I’ll double check, but in my experience, basil, oregano, chives, parsley, and  thyme grew well in limited soil. Cilantro and dill did pretty well, too.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: CrumblingInfrastructure on May 04, 2020, 09:32:57 AM
Update on the gardening endeavours:
Plants are starting to look good outside. The hot pepper plants are still having some issues but I think its because of the weather (in WA state) so I started bringing them inside at night to keep them outta the cold. I planted a spearmint and sweetmint plants in my spare pots. I have a big patch of dirt in my yard on a hill that would cost a shitload of money to level out and grow grass so instead I sowed a bunch of wildflowers that are good for bees and hummingbirds. I just started the seeds for the flower beds so I have Petunias, Delphiniums, Milkweed, Lobelia, and Morning Glory. I got a nice looking orchid for the dining room table to add some color to the inside of my house. Im thinking of ordering some succulents just to place around the kitchen/living room.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Grind King Rims on June 02, 2020, 12:55:52 PM
today when leaving work I clipped a bit of ivy from one of the plants in the hallway, and planted it when I got home. I might clip another bit and try to propagate it in water, just for comparison. The fact that I can just take a clipping of a plant and grow my own is so cool to me.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: vindogg on June 02, 2020, 11:12:05 PM
today when leaving work I clipped a bit of ivy from one of the plants in the hallway, and planted it when I got home. I might clip another bit and try to propagate it in water, just for comparison. The fact that I can just take a clipping of a plant and grow my own is so cool to me.


Yes to this, I have an aunt who used to go absolutely everywhere with a pair of secatuers in her jacket pocket. I have recently taken to visiting public parks with a pair of my own and am propagating two types of Hebe, a Virginia creeper and another strange vine with purple/green leaves.


Which leads me to my next point, cafe plants and propagation, Firstly, a great way to get expensive plants, and secondly and most importantly, a great way to talk to your waitress about something non food related.  They can even care enough to ask you if your cutting grew, if you return, which is another opportunity to have a conversation.


I'm also curious as to why you chose to propagate ivy? If only for an experiment I understand but if not dont plant it outside! I spent a good hour clearing that stuff from a client's garden today and it will suffocate all that it comes into contact with. I also suspect you'll have better luck in water, but make sure not to let its roots get too long before chucking it in a pot with potting mix.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: paul5 on July 22, 2020, 11:09:59 AM
There are many things to known about gardening- Plants according to season, soil, garden steel trowel, place. These are the basic thing for gardening. But the most important thing is that how to choose plants for garden or pots, how to care. You should know about these points.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: JANUS on July 23, 2020, 09:01:12 AM
I forgot about this thread. Check out this big ass zucchini I harvested yesterday.

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Post by: layzieyez on July 24, 2020, 10:33:01 AM
That is tasty looking. Congratulations.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: sexualhelon on March 11, 2021, 05:53:07 AM
Not sure if there's another thread ongoing concerning gardening, but this one popped up when I did a search.

What's everyone growing?

I'm mostly into growing chilies but  I also replant scallions into a pot  on my balcony since they're really easy to regrow. Last year I grew Carolina Reapers, Lemon Aji's, Black Scorpion Tongues, and Bonda Ma Jacques. Thinking about growing some aji charapitas, rocotos, sugar rush peach, and el oro de ecuador's this year.   
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on March 11, 2021, 06:19:33 AM
Not sure if there's another thread ongoing concerning gardening, but this one popped up when I did a search.

What's everyone growing?

I'm mostly into growing chilies but  I also replant scallions into a pot  on my balcony since they're really easy to regrow. Last year I grew Carolina Reapers, Lemon Aji's, Black Scorpion Tongues, and Bonda Ma Jacques. Thinking about growing some aji charapitas, rocotos, sugar rush peach, and el oro de ecuador's this year.
I sort of stick to the basics.  Red, yellow, and green bell peppers, jalapenos, habaneros, banana peppers, grape and big beef tomatoes. Various types of cucumber. I TRY to do zucchini, but I get squash vine borers pretty bad in my area and they're usually ruined after one harvest.  It's funny you mentioned the sugar rush peach, I tried those last year and they're really good and produce lots of fruit but took FOREVER to ripen.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: ungzilla on March 11, 2021, 07:19:49 AM
i'm building a bog
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: straight on March 11, 2021, 07:24:59 AM
my mother in law keeps stopping by and is overwatering my weed plant and it’s driving me nuts
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: sexualhelon on March 11, 2021, 08:16:02 AM
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Not sure if there's another thread ongoing concerning gardening, but this one popped up when I did a search.

What's everyone growing?

I'm mostly into growing chilies but  I also replant scallions into a pot  on my balcony since they're really easy to regrow. Last year I grew Carolina Reapers, Lemon Aji's, Black Scorpion Tongues, and Bonda Ma Jacques. Thinking about growing some aji charapitas, rocotos, sugar rush peach, and el oro de ecuador's this year.
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I sort of stick to the basics.  Red, yellow, and green bell peppers, jalapenos, habaneros, banana peppers, grape and big beef tomatoes. Various types of cucumber. I TRY to do zucchini, but I get squash vine borers pretty bad in my area and they're usually ruined after one harvest.  It's funny you mentioned the sugar rush peach, I tried those last year and they're really good and produce lots of fruit but took FOREVER to ripen.

Sounds like a nice combination of things you have growing. I'd probably try add bell peppers to my bunch next but tomatoes also grow well with chllies. Living in Germany, it's kind of a bitch to grow chillies. Kind of a bitch to grow anything that needs warm weather/sun ha.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on March 11, 2021, 09:34:32 AM
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Not sure if there's another thread ongoing concerning gardening, but this one popped up when I did a search.

What's everyone growing?

I'm mostly into growing chilies but  I also replant scallions into a pot  on my balcony since they're really easy to regrow. Last year I grew Carolina Reapers, Lemon Aji's, Black Scorpion Tongues, and Bonda Ma Jacques. Thinking about growing some aji charapitas, rocotos, sugar rush peach, and el oro de ecuador's this year.
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I sort of stick to the basics.  Red, yellow, and green bell peppers, jalapenos, habaneros, banana peppers, grape and big beef tomatoes. Various types of cucumber. I TRY to do zucchini, but I get squash vine borers pretty bad in my area and they're usually ruined after one harvest.  It's funny you mentioned the sugar rush peach, I tried those last year and they're really good and produce lots of fruit but took FOREVER to ripen.
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Sounds like a nice combination of things you have growing. I'd probably try add bell peppers to my bunch next but tomatoes also grow well with chllies. Living in Germany, it's kind of a bitch to grow chillies. Kind of a bitch to grow anything that needs warm weather/sun ha.
Yeah bell peppers are pretty much a staple for me, and they fit in with about everything I cook.  Last year with covid in full force we leaned heavily on the garden and almost nothing went to waste.  For me that's always been the most appealing part of gardening, the self sufficiency and being able to utilize the literal fruits of your labor.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: fuhkin_powahfood_kid on March 11, 2021, 11:14:41 AM
Not sure if there's another thread ongoing concerning gardening, but this one popped up when I did a search.

What's everyone growing?

I'm mostly into growing chilies but  I also replant scallions into a pot  on my balcony since they're really easy to regrow. Last year I grew Carolina Reapers, Lemon Aji's, Black Scorpion Tongues, and Bonda Ma Jacques. Thinking about growing some aji charapitas, rocotos, sugar rush peach, and el oro de ecuador's this year.

Rocoto are wicked good! I've been using rocoto limon pepper sauce on most everything ineqt for the past couple years. This old hippie in town grows peppers and makes sauces. Super super bomb. I've got some old glass windows/frames that I'm planning to use for a quick hot house and give peppers a shot. It generally stays too cold to grow tomatoes and peppers unless you've got supplemental heating

I built new raised beds out of scrap last weekend. We have 4 at this point and there's a pile of clean dirt that's better than fill (I dig around yesterday and saw a decent amount of worms) on the property that I will use to mix with a truck load of royal gold soil that's heavily discounted in bulk. It will be cool if I can build/fill and fees all the current beds and the 4 more I want to build for around 100 dollars. I think it can happen.

Anyone have experience with a potato barrel? That's something I figure I'll start next month. 30 gallon barrel full of spuds!

Pole beans
Lettuce
Potato
Peppers
Calendula
Marigold
Basil
Sage
Chamomile
Ganja
 8)
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: sexualhelon on March 11, 2021, 12:44:12 PM
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Not sure if there's another thread ongoing concerning gardening, but this one popped up when I did a search.

What's everyone growing?

I'm mostly into growing chilies but  I also replant scallions into a pot  on my balcony since they're really easy to regrow. Last year I grew Carolina Reapers, Lemon Aji's, Black Scorpion Tongues, and Bonda Ma Jacques. Thinking about growing some aji charapitas, rocotos, sugar rush peach, and el oro de ecuador's this year.
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I sort of stick to the basics.  Red, yellow, and green bell peppers, jalapenos, habaneros, banana peppers, grape and big beef tomatoes. Various types of cucumber. I TRY to do zucchini, but I get squash vine borers pretty bad in my area and they're usually ruined after one harvest.  It's funny you mentioned the sugar rush peach, I tried those last year and they're really good and produce lots of fruit but took FOREVER to ripen.
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Sounds like a nice combination of things you have growing. I'd probably try add bell peppers to my bunch next but tomatoes also grow well with chllies. Living in Germany, it's kind of a bitch to grow chillies. Kind of a bitch to grow anything that needs warm weather/sun ha.
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Yeah bell peppers are pretty much a staple for me, and they fit in with about everything I cook.  Last year with covid in full force we leaned heavily on the garden and almost nothing went to waste.  For me that's always been the most appealing part of gardening, the self sufficiency and being able to utilize the literal fruits of your labor.

I think covid is also what got me into gardening more. It actually started with me making hot sauces but any pepper that's not a normal bell pepper is pretty hard to find here. Fortunately I'm pretty close to a Vietnamese market where I live and there's a place there that sells habaneros and thai chilli's at 7 euros per kilo.

That led me to wanting to grow my own and I picked up the peppers/seeds I mentioned earlier from a local pepper group. People basically give them away here when winter comes unless they're planning to overwinter everything on their balcony. Fell in love with the Aji's over the super hots I have. So I actually decided on what new stuff I'm going to grow this season - sugar rush peach, Brazilian pumpkin, aji mango, manzano, el oro de Ecuador, and charapitas.

But I'd like to start growing more "food food" at some point. Right now I'm really enjoying growing rare/hard to find chllies. The last hot sauce I made was with lemon aji's, reapers, yellow bell peppers, garlic, and pineapple mixed with some indian spices like ajwain, hing powder, amchoor which came out really tasty.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on March 11, 2021, 05:23:33 PM
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Not sure if there's another thread ongoing concerning gardening, but this one popped up when I did a search.

What's everyone growing?

I'm mostly into growing chilies but  I also replant scallions into a pot  on my balcony since they're really easy to regrow. Last year I grew Carolina Reapers, Lemon Aji's, Black Scorpion Tongues, and Bonda Ma Jacques. Thinking about growing some aji charapitas, rocotos, sugar rush peach, and el oro de ecuador's this year.
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I sort of stick to the basics.  Red, yellow, and green bell peppers, jalapenos, habaneros, banana peppers, grape and big beef tomatoes. Various types of cucumber. I TRY to do zucchini, but I get squash vine borers pretty bad in my area and they're usually ruined after one harvest.  It's funny you mentioned the sugar rush peach, I tried those last year and they're really good and produce lots of fruit but took FOREVER to ripen.
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Sounds like a nice combination of things you have growing. I'd probably try add bell peppers to my bunch next but tomatoes also grow well with chllies. Living in Germany, it's kind of a bitch to grow chillies. Kind of a bitch to grow anything that needs warm weather/sun ha.
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Yeah bell peppers are pretty much a staple for me, and they fit in with about everything I cook.  Last year with covid in full force we leaned heavily on the garden and almost nothing went to waste.  For me that's always been the most appealing part of gardening, the self sufficiency and being able to utilize the literal fruits of your labor.
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I think covid is also what got me into gardening more. It actually started with me making hot sauces but any pepper that's not a normal bell pepper is pretty hard to find here. Fortunately I'm pretty close to a Vietnamese market where I live and there's a place there that sells habaneros and thai chilli's at 7 euros per kilo.

That led me to wanting to grow my own and I picked up the peppers/seeds I mentioned earlier from a local pepper group. People basically give them away here when winter comes unless they're planning to overwinter everything on their balcony. Fell in love with the Aji's over the super hots I have. So I actually decided on what new stuff I'm going to grow this season - sugar rush peach, Brazilian pumpkin, aji mango, manzano, el oro de Ecuador, and charapitas.

But I'd like to start growing more "food food" at some point. Right now I'm really enjoying growing rare/hard to find chllies. The last hot sauce I made was with lemon aji's, reapers, yellow bell peppers, garlic, and pineapple mixed with some indian spices like ajwain, hing powder, amchoor which came out really tasty.
Sounds like a good sauce. Do you grow raised beds? Pots? Both? Do you start most of your stuff from seed, or started plants? 
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: sexualhelon on March 12, 2021, 01:25:29 AM
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Not sure if there's another thread ongoing concerning gardening, but this one popped up when I did a search.

What's everyone growing?

I'm mostly into growing chilies but  I also replant scallions into a pot  on my balcony since they're really easy to regrow. Last year I grew Carolina Reapers, Lemon Aji's, Black Scorpion Tongues, and Bonda Ma Jacques. Thinking about growing some aji charapitas, rocotos, sugar rush peach, and el oro de ecuador's this year.
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I sort of stick to the basics.  Red, yellow, and green bell peppers, jalapenos, habaneros, banana peppers, grape and big beef tomatoes. Various types of cucumber. I TRY to do zucchini, but I get squash vine borers pretty bad in my area and they're usually ruined after one harvest.  It's funny you mentioned the sugar rush peach, I tried those last year and they're really good and produce lots of fruit but took FOREVER to ripen.
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Sounds like a nice combination of things you have growing. I'd probably try add bell peppers to my bunch next but tomatoes also grow well with chllies. Living in Germany, it's kind of a bitch to grow chillies. Kind of a bitch to grow anything that needs warm weather/sun ha.
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Yeah bell peppers are pretty much a staple for me, and they fit in with about everything I cook.  Last year with covid in full force we leaned heavily on the garden and almost nothing went to waste.  For me that's always been the most appealing part of gardening, the self sufficiency and being able to utilize the literal fruits of your labor.
[close]

I think covid is also what got me into gardening more. It actually started with me making hot sauces but any pepper that's not a normal bell pepper is pretty hard to find here. Fortunately I'm pretty close to a Vietnamese market where I live and there's a place there that sells habaneros and thai chilli's at 7 euros per kilo.

That led me to wanting to grow my own and I picked up the peppers/seeds I mentioned earlier from a local pepper group. People basically give them away here when winter comes unless they're planning to overwinter everything on their balcony. Fell in love with the Aji's over the super hots I have. So I actually decided on what new stuff I'm going to grow this season - sugar rush peach, Brazilian pumpkin, aji mango, manzano, el oro de Ecuador, and charapitas.

But I'd like to start growing more "food food" at some point. Right now I'm really enjoying growing rare/hard to find chllies. The last hot sauce I made was with lemon aji's, reapers, yellow bell peppers, garlic, and pineapple mixed with some indian spices like ajwain, hing powder, amchoor which came out really tasty.
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Sounds like a good sauce. Do you grow raised beds? Pots? Both? Do you start most of your stuff from seed, or started plants?

I usually do all my peppers in pots and have a little garden bed for mostly scallions/herbs. I think the pots fit my balcony set up best and I have to bring everything in over the winter - which is like 9 months out of the year here.

I started everything I have now from seed - lemon aji's, reapers, bulgarian carrot peppers, and Bonda's. For the herbs/scallions I just replanted all those from what I'd bought at the grocery store.

For the order I just placed, I actually did decide to try ordering some plants. So we'll see how that goes - never ordered plants online before. So I'll actually be getting plants for everything I mentioned above aside from the Brazilian pumpkin and el oro de Ecuador. Was kind of torn on whether or not to get the plants/seeds - getting plants feels kind of like cheating, ha. But it was only a couple of euros more to get the plants and I can save all the seeds for next year. I did email them and ask if I started seeds now vs getting their plants which would be more mature and they said their plants would, which makes sense. They said the plants should be around 12 inches when I receive them.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: sexualhelon on March 21, 2021, 12:51:05 PM
Well, pretty much all my chilli seeds have sprouted now.

I wasn't going to grow any super hots this year but I froze about 100 reaper peppers. As an experiment, I wanted to see if the seeds would still sprout and they did so I may grow another reaper plant or two. They're great for only needing one pepper to add to a hot sauce but that's about it, imho. 

Most chilies I'm growing are of the capsicum baccatum variety this year. The Lemon Aji I overwintered is already starting to produce. Gonna move it into a 32 Liter pot soon. Hopefully have a little jungle by the time next winter comes around.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: ungzilla on March 21, 2021, 01:32:31 PM
i made a test bog. this is to make sure i don't kill everything with my soil mix and water before going ham and making like a 10x15 ft version of this.

(https://i.imgur.com/WEHzRhgl.jpg)

it's got in there so far:
cranberry (Vaccinium macrocarpon)
red pitcher plant (Sarracenia rubra)
purple pitcher plant (Sarracenia purpurea)
golden colicroot (Aletris aurea)
coastal plain tickseed (Coreopsis gladiata)
savanna rattlesnake master (Eryngium synchaetum)

i'm also trying to grow some rare species from seed, including Echinacea laevigata, Eurybia spectabilis, Parthenium auriculatum, Liatris squarrulosa, and Stachys matthewsii... but i have no idea what i'm doing here to be honest and i'm probably gonna get like 0% germination on any of them. oh and betaphenyl is gonna send me some seed to uh, propagate.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on March 21, 2021, 04:19:48 PM
i made a test bog. this is to make sure i don't kill everything with my soil mix and water before going ham and making like a 10x15 ft version of this.

(https://i.imgur.com/WEHzRhgl.jpg)

it's got in there so far:
cranberry (Vaccinium macrocarpon)
red pitcher plant (Sarracenia rubra)
purple pitcher plant (Sarracenia purpurea)
golden colicroot (Aletris aurea)
coastal plain tickseed (Coreopsis gladiata)
savanna rattlesnake master (Eryngium synchaetum)

i'm also trying to grow some rare species from seed, including Echinacea laevigata, Eurybia spectabilis, Parthenium auriculatum, Liatris squarrulosa, and Stachys matthewsii... but i have no idea what i'm doing here to be honest and i'm probably gonna get like 0% germination on any of them. oh and betaphenyl is gonna send me some seed to uh, propagate.

You'll do well man! For most seeds, you can treat like this...

Add seeds to a plastic cup with water at room temp for approximately 12-36 hours. Bang the cup on a table and when the seeds sink, they are ready.

Take out most of the water. Drain maybe an inch or so into a paper towel with the seeds. Fold over the paper towel, put in a ziplock bag in the dark. Check at about 24 hours.

Once the seeds have a tap root, gently create a hole in the soil, about an inch down, insert seed(taproot facing down), then gently cover back up with soil and lightly water.

This way you know exactly what is going to grow and what wont germinate
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: fuhkin_powahfood_kid on March 21, 2021, 08:19:39 PM
here's some beds I built outta scrap. mix of old old old cedar fence, redwood planks, and non-treated commercial wood used for a cement work. they're a little janky but I didn't pay for anything used in construction, so I'm pretty happy. That pile/tarp off to the side is covering a truck load of clean fill that's got a surprisingly diverse amount of life in it. As soon as I realized the fill was good/clean, I made these babies quite a bit deeper. I didn't want to pay for dirt!!! Once I get my hardware mesh this week, I'm gonna fill most of these with fill, some good soil from my buddy, worm castings, chicken shit, and get it going. This spot has almost full sun too, so it's extra stoke

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51061278546_56f007dc94_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kN7pau)

Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on March 22, 2021, 03:58:38 AM
here's some beds I built outta scrap. mix of old old old cedar fence, redwood planks, and non-treated commercial wood used for a cement work. they're a little janky but I didn't pay for anything used in construction, so I'm pretty happy. That pile/tarp off to the side is covering a truck load of clean fill that's got a surprisingly diverse amount of life in it. As soon as I realized the fill was good/clean, I made these babies quite a bit deeper. I didn't want to pay for dirt!!! Once I get my hardware mesh this week, I'm gonna fill most of these with fill, some good soil from my buddy, worm castings, chicken shit, and get it going. This spot has almost full sun too, so it's extra stoke

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51061278546_56f007dc94_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kN7pau)

Nice work!

Depending on what you want to grow, I'd probably leave out the chicken shit. It's relatively hot(high nitrogen content)

Also, remember folk, check the ph of your water!!!!!5.8-6.2 is about ideal!
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: layzieyez on April 01, 2021, 11:29:16 AM
My backyard is getting fenced in so I can grow stuff without fear of deer.

I'm going to attempt this:

https://www.permaculture.co.uk/articles/many-benefits-hugelkultur
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: excitableboy on April 02, 2021, 02:44:15 PM
Nice thread! At the moment I have a hard enough time keeping my spider plant alive, but I'll be moving next year and look forward to be trying my hand at (organic) gardening. Since I can't get any hands-on experience until then, I was wondering if any of you could recommend some good reading materials for the complete novice?
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: matty_c on April 02, 2021, 06:04:38 PM
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here's some beds I built outta scrap. mix of old old old cedar fence, redwood planks, and non-treated commercial wood used for a cement work. they're a little janky but I didn't pay for anything used in construction, so I'm pretty happy. That pile/tarp off to the side is covering a truck load of clean fill that's got a surprisingly diverse amount of life in it. As soon as I realized the fill was good/clean, I made these babies quite a bit deeper. I didn't want to pay for dirt!!! Once I get my hardware mesh this week, I'm gonna fill most of these with fill, some good soil from my buddy, worm castings, chicken shit, and get it going. This spot has almost full sun too, so it's extra stoke

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51061278546_56f007dc94_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kN7pau)
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Nice work!

Depending on what you want to grow, I'd probably leave out the chicken shit. It's relatively hot(high nitrogen content)

Also, remember folk, check the ph of your water!!!!!5.8-6.2 is about ideal!

This thread is perfect maybe you guys can help me

Yeah IusedToSkateMore I have read that you wanna to cedar or redwood. Maybe you can help me here

This is a good year off but I’m just trying to be organised and have a plan so my mums building her retirement house and there’s heaps of spaces for edible gardens

We want to run a whole bunch of planters that way we can put mad soil in there and also so she’s not bending over constantly
Trying to figure out making everything in a way that will be the least work for her
I was gonna get real anal about it and have a think about where the sun is and have it all worked out like what gets planted where

Are there any good resources about garden design and irrigation, shit like that can anyone point me in the right direction there’s heaps of books to go through but has anyone come across a real good one?
Cheers
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Sila on April 02, 2021, 10:04:41 PM
I moved in to an ex partner's place and the garden is heavily overrun. Vegetable patch is out of control with weeds and the rest of the garden is full of knee high grass. What's the best/quickest way to deal with it all? Preferably something that isn't too environmentally taxing or toxic. I just want to lay down mulch on larger parts and start new vegetable patches from scratch. I don't own tools so the beds won't be raised.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on April 03, 2021, 05:15:37 AM
Bout to get into permaculture, any slap heads on that trip?
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: layzieyez on April 03, 2021, 09:56:13 AM
I moved in to an ex partner's place and the garden is heavily overrun. Vegetable patch is out of control with weeds and the rest of the garden is full of knee high grass. What's the best/quickest way to deal with it all? Preferably something that isn't too environmentally taxing or toxic. I just want to lay down mulch on larger parts and start new vegetable patches from scratch. I don't own tools so the beds won't be raised.
Heavy rocks and pet food bags or thick plastic. They're basically mini tarps that starve the vegetation underneath it of air/light while the sun helps and worms/bugs break it down. Cardboard might work, too.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: fuhkin_powahfood_kid on April 03, 2021, 04:29:31 PM
@matty_c

really, it's cool to use whatever you can find for lumber as far as I'm concerned, but then again, I'm not building these for long term because I'm a renter and am not investing more than my labor into a property that I don't own. I also live I an area where there's lumber yards/mills all over the place. scrap wood is fairly easy to come by. I'm not sure what y'all have for options where you're at in AU. But if you look at the larger of the boxes I slapped together, it's roughly 24" or 61cm tall. It will require a fair amount of dirt but less bending. A deep box is also going to allow for deeper roots to grow inside the structure- I've gotta keep the bottom closed off with cardboard and wire this year to stop invasive grass grow and gophers.

you're spot on about paying attention to where the sun is. In my case, I've been waking up early to see how and when shade is cast due to structures on the property. Soon, I'll start to figure how it will go throughout the summer and other seasons. Different plants like different amounts of sunlight.

Do an internet search for plants that grow well in your zone. this link shows what hardiness zone you're working in https://www.gardenia.net/guide/australian-hardiness-zones (https://www.gardenia.net/guide/australian-hardiness-zones)

I moved in to an ex partner's place and the garden is heavily overrun. Vegetable patch is out of control with weeds and the rest of the garden is full of knee high grass. What's the best/quickest way to deal with it all? Preferably something that isn't too environmentally taxing or toxic. I just want to lay down mulch on larger parts and start new vegetable patches from scratch. I don't own tools so the beds won't be raised.

do you have access to a lawn mower, to take care of the tall grass? I know where I'm at, some stores rent out tools for a fee. Could chop down the tall grass with a machete if you don't want to pull it by hand or use a mower/weed whacker. Then you could use a hand cultivator https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/groundwork-garden-cultivator-1273578?store=1795&cm_mmc=feed-_-GoogleShopping-_-Product-_-1273578&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoNbL95vj7wIVnP7jBx1zGw33EAQYAyABEgJdTvD_BwE (https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/groundwork-garden-cultivator-1273578?store=1795&cm_mmc=feed-_-GoogleShopping-_-Product-_-1273578&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoNbL95vj7wIVnP7jBx1zGw33EAQYAyABEgJdTvD_BwE), which is a fairly inexpensive investment, to turn the soil and pull out the grass roots. After chopping down the grass, depending on what it is, you can remove the root system. like where I'm at right now, we've got this crazy shit called St Augustine grass with roots that are thick like rope and need to be completely removed from an area for it to be a viable growing place. So using a shovel, I had to cut squares into the grass area that I then flipped over, removed some soil, and dumped the root bound grass into a green waste heap. Either way, it's important to turn the soil and remove seeds/weeds/roots.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: sexualhelon on April 05, 2021, 02:47:49 AM
What do you guys use for fertilizers?

Right now I have some bio granular fert - a 5-10-10 NPK, I believe. Thinking of buying some  liquid seaweed fertilizer but before I even buy anything  new I'm  thinking about ordering some worm castings and doing a soil mix with those to do a little test. I guess, in theory, if you have good soil you shouldn't need fertilizer. I've also been saving banana peels, coffee grounds, and trying to make my own but my chili's live inside most of the year so I try to not have any compost that's too stinky.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: fuhkin_powahfood_kid on April 05, 2021, 10:12:24 AM
What do you guys use for fertilizers?

Right now I have some bio granular fert - a 5-10-10 NPK, I believe. Thinking of buying some  liquid seaweed fertilizer but before I even buy anything  new I'm  thinking about ordering some worm castings and doing a soil mix with those to do a little test. I guess, in theory, if you have good soil you shouldn't need fertilizer. I've also been saving banana peels, coffee grounds, and trying to make my own but my chili's live inside most of the year so I try to not have any compost that's too stinky.

for small scale planting I like to use worm castings and fish hydrolysate. Fox Farm makes some good organic concentrated fertilizers that can be bought online as well. There's a 3 pack with gear for each stage of growth, 1 for whole life cycle, the next for vegetative growth, the next for flower. worth a shot and it doesn't smell gnarly like fish =)
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: excitableboy on April 06, 2021, 10:54:27 AM
Nice thread! At the moment I have a hard enough time keeping my spider plant alive, but I'll be moving next year and look forward to be trying my hand at (organic) gardening. Since I can't get any hands-on experience until then, I was wondering if any of you could recommend some good reading materials for the complete novice?

I went with Monty Don's Complete Gardener for now. He may be the Aaron Kyro of gardening for all I know, but it's what I got. Seems to know a thing or two and I like that he eschews all pesticides.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: layzieyez on April 07, 2021, 08:53:37 PM
I compost for fertilizer. I was tempted to scoop up a bathtub that was being discarded in my neighborhood so I could make a worm farm.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: matty_c on April 07, 2021, 10:28:43 PM
@IusedToSkateMore, cheers for link mate
Yeah I was thinking maybe even higher maybe 800, but I really need to have a think about this and the sizes of beds cause fuck me that’s a lot of soil and she’s building on a fucking island so it’s going to be a bit ridiculous bringing cubic metres upon cubic metres of potting mix or whatever on a barge
Mates got a bobcat but still, I am just starting to realise there’s a bit of work here. Still though, heaps of time to organise shit
 
I have been trying to find prices for reclaimed timber on internet some of it’s expensive as fuck, I don’t know a lot about wood so that surprised me. But I was looking at fairly long lengths of timber so makes sense now I think about it

Comes in way cheaper and now that I think about it more solid to just build it out of besser blocks, reo and core fill everything. But thats just cause of how long I was gonna run some of these beds and I thought it would take longer putting pieces together
Shame cause I really like how the wooden ones look
Could probably finish it just a little bit at a time with that cultured stone boral make

@Gay Imp Sausage Metal, I have been looking but heaps of sites I found are just full of dead links

But I got on those book downloader sites and there’s heaps there, the ones I am reading at moment are permaculture design a step by step guide, the permaculture way by graham bell and Gaia’s garden by Toby hemenway
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: sexualhelon on April 08, 2021, 02:42:14 AM
I compost for fertilizer. I was tempted to scoop up a bathtub that was being discarded in my neighborhood so I could make a worm farm.

I bought worm castings and have granular fertilizer so I'm going to see how it goes with those. I did put some banana peels in the soil and also made some worm/banana water. Gonna see if I can get by without a liquid fert for now.

All my plants are looking healthy atm - the Bonda's and Lemon Ajis have peppers popping out since a week or so ago - maybe a bit longer. Still need to try and upload a photo but it always says the file is too large.

My Charapitas are maybe 6 inches tall, sugar rush peach, rocotos, aji mangos, are all about a foot and I have two el oro de ecuador's that are maybe 2 inches, and 2 braz. mini pumpkin that are just sprouting. One of them has the seed stuck on the top so hopefully it drops off.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: fuhkin_powahfood_kid on April 08, 2021, 10:01:37 AM
@matty_c

hey man, I didn't even think about cement blocks, or besser blocks. Those are great if you can get them for less and after a season or 2 they'll look better with sun/dirt/weed exposure. I wonder if there's places that make their own soil on the Island? It's unique because I live in the weed capital of the world, but there are numerous companies that produce their own soil blends locally. It can be bought by the truck load. Maybe there's something like that. I have no idea. Good luck with it homie
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Sila on April 09, 2021, 12:48:19 AM
@IusedToSkateMore, cheers for link mate
Yeah I was thinking maybe even higher maybe 800, but I really need to have a think about this and the sizes of beds cause fuck me that’s a lot of soil and she’s building on a fucking island so it’s going to be a bit ridiculous bringing cubic metres upon cubic metres of potting mix or whatever on a barge
Mates got a bobcat but still, I am just starting to realise there’s a bit of work here. Still though, heaps of time to organise shit
 
I have been trying to find prices for reclaimed timber on internet some of it’s expensive as fuck, I don’t know a lot about wood so that surprised me. But I was looking at fairly long lengths of timber so makes sense now I think about it

Comes in way cheaper and now that I think about it more solid to just build it out of besser blocks, reo and core fill everything. But thats just cause of how long I was gonna run some of these beds and I thought it would take longer putting pieces together
Shame cause I really like how the wooden ones look
Could probably finish it just a little bit at a time with that cultured stone boral make

@Gay Imp Sausage Metal, I have been looking but heaps of sites I found are just full of dead links

But I got on those book downloader sites and there’s heaps there, the ones I am reading at moment are permaculture design a step by step guide, the permaculture way by graham bell and Gaia’s garden by Toby hemenway

Yo Matty can you throw us a link to that Graham Bell book?
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: matty_c on April 09, 2021, 03:17:04 AM
https://www.pdfdrive.com/permaculture-way-e39585901.html

If you search on that site ‘permaculture Australia’ some books specific to here come up. Cause those other books are USA and uk. They’re still good though that Gaia’s garden one has some cool diagrams
Turns out those long planters aren’t as efficient as smaller ones and hella curvy shit. Mind blown
You can get lost in this shit I have just from yesterday, haha

Edit

@IusedToSkateMore, it’s one of the smallest ones in Moreton bay but not one of the ghetto ones if that makes sense, nah no luck not really any infrastructure at all should be a bit of fun though!
She got two blocks and wants to get weird with the build so we were thinking different living pavilions or whatever but mostly gardens so should be interesting
In any case I’ll post it on slap like I do everything else ahaha
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on May 07, 2021, 06:18:18 AM
Got all my pepper plants in.  Red, Yellow, Orange Bell, various types of jalapeno, banana, trying these little hybrid snacking peppers, etc. Don't mind the fortress, I've been at war with chipmunks since I moved in to this place.(https://i.imgur.com/LpEOc4Z.jpg)
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: fuhkin_powahfood_kid on May 07, 2021, 02:21:59 PM
That looks great! I'll post some pics of my beds later. I wanna build a pepper hot house soon
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on May 08, 2021, 11:07:44 AM
That looks great! I'll post some pics of my beds later. I wanna build a pepper hot house soon
Thanks! Yeah I’d like to do that too, expand my growing season a bit.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on May 11, 2022, 06:09:30 AM
That time of year again! Got pretty much everything planted last night. All the usual, red, yellow, orange, and green bell peppers, jalapeños, cucumbers, big beef tomatoes, and some cherry and grape tomatoes.  Anybody else getting their gardens started?
(https://i.imgur.com/m2okH64.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/8X2f5e7.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/Fu9NLtc.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/VtFEEcD.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: keepthefunkalive on June 13, 2022, 03:48:01 PM
Anybody into growing native plants? It's a whole different game. Especially for getting your seed starts going cuz a lot require cold stratification or scarification, so you gotta plan ahead quite a bit. 

I'm pumped because I've been starting to grow natives around our house. I've got a bunch of coreopsis, a few wood lilies left that the gotdamn rabbits didn't eat, cardinal flower, columbine, obedient plant, joe-pye weed, anise hyssop, liatris, some goldenrods, great blue lobelia and some canada anemones in the ground already. Waiting for some of my plug trays to get a little bigger to add more. I supplement with other non-native annuals that aren't invasive to fill in while my plugs and younger perennials are getting going. Plus there's a bunch of other dope flowers that aren't native that I like, but I'm trying to make it so when society collapses, my yard will help contribute to restoring the natural world lol.

I'm gonna build a raised bed from these old tree trunk posts used to hold up the floors from our basement after we took them out to install floor jacks. I miss gardening for food, but I work on a veggie and flower farm so I have all the fresh produce I need in the summer. It's just nice to go out to the yard to grab some herbs and veggies for dinner. I've got some Cherokee Purple heirloom tomatoes going along with some sungold cherries ready to plant. Gonna steal some herb starts from the farm, maybe some cayenne peppers, cucumbers and a few herbs too. Just the basics.

Gardening is dope
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: keepthefunkalive on June 13, 2022, 03:56:00 PM
i made a test bog. this is to make sure i don't kill everything with my soil mix and water before going ham and making like a 10x15 ft version of this.

(https://i.imgur.com/WEHzRhgl.jpg)

it's got in there so far:
cranberry (Vaccinium macrocarpon)
red pitcher plant (Sarracenia rubra)
purple pitcher plant (Sarracenia purpurea)
golden colicroot (Aletris aurea)
coastal plain tickseed (Coreopsis gladiata)
savanna rattlesnake master (Eryngium synchaetum)

i'm also trying to grow some rare species from seed, including Echinacea laevigata, Eurybia spectabilis, Parthenium auriculatum, Liatris squarrulosa, and Stachys matthewsii... but i have no idea what i'm doing here to be honest and i'm probably gonna get like 0% germination on any of them. oh and betaphenyl is gonna send me some seed to uh, propagate.

Dope! Bogs are some of my favorite places to go look for orchids... but I wouldn't recommend trying to grow them. You might need to cold stratify the seeds to get them to germinate if you haven't looked into it. A lot of plants have a fail safe mechanism in their seeds so that they won't germinate until the timing is right... usually in the spring. So they need to go through a cold-moist period like the winter before they sprout. I know all the Liatris I've grown do for sure. I just put them in a ziplock with a damp paper towel, and put them in the freezer for either 30 or 60 days (can't remember what they required). I'm growing L. spicata and L. cylindracea currently. Love that genus
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: fuhkin_powahfood_kid on June 13, 2022, 05:18:27 PM
well, haven't put much time in this spring but it's going along since we planted last year. Garlics were monsters and did really well. still have a handful to pull. Echinacea is doing well although slugs/snails take a bite here and there. Calendula... idk what happened. she's dead all of a sudden. California poppies are looking great and spread like crazy. Lemon Balm is a monster 3 plants. Elderberry is rocking. Same with native blackberries.

This lady with a succulent/rock garden for a front yard put 100s of native succulents out front for free, along with pots. So I scooped at least 50 of em and we're going to mess with those this year. Really wish I had propagated the various papaver sominferum strains I've got last fall because they'd do incredibly well in with the type of soil we've got going here. Next year... what else... I've got a few fallow beds right now that are covered in hay to keep the feral cats from pooping in there and my pup from eating their poop. I think they'll be flower beds. Maybe I'll throw a few ganja stalks in there as they get at max 16 hours sunlight in that spot.

I've got to post pics I guess. I ended up making flower beds out of used car tires when I ran out of salvaged wood. I like em.

I've also got what should be excellent compost built up between the pit I dug 2 years ago and the worm bucket I've been keeping the past 5 months. Saving that for the dank plants =)
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: augustmoon on June 13, 2022, 05:52:29 PM
Man, I need some real help with this, I don’t know what the hell I’m doing

I bought a small home a little over a year ago, with some real minimal landscaping out front, but everything is dying and full of weeds and I don’t know where to start.  I’m in school full time and I hardly have time to sleep, much less garden, but it’s really looking like shit over here. 
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: biaherl on June 13, 2022, 06:21:17 PM
Man, I need some real help with this, I don’t know what the hell I’m doing

I bought a small home a little over a year ago, with some real minimal landscaping out front, but everything is dying and full of weeds and I don’t know where to start.  I’m in school full time and I hardly have time to sleep, much less garden, but it’s really looking like shit over here. 

Set a timer for 10 minutes and work in your garden, pull weeds, prune, rake (aerate/compost) or water. You can't do them all but you can do one.

Try to do 10 minutes everyday to catch up then you can move it to every other or so days with a good half hour to an hour of work on the weekend

Know your grow zone (your spot on the planet. Google your zip code grow zone). Know what side of your property your plants are on, the south side of your house the north? the east or west?

10 minutes is all you need
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: GardenSkater77 on June 13, 2022, 06:31:24 PM
Man, I need some real help with this, I don’t know what the hell I’m doing

I bought a small home a little over a year ago, with some real minimal landscaping out front, but everything is dying and full of weeds and I don’t know where to start.  I’m in school full time and I hardly have time to sleep, much less garden, but it’s really looking like shit over here.

Pretend you’re yard is a skate park. You want to have features around the perimeter and by the house. In between some boxes and paths. What I am saying is before you plant you need to establish a structure.

Reuse materials on your property. Don’t be afraid to rip out plants if you don’t like where they are placed. Buy stones, dirt or mulch in bulk.

Go to garage sales are look for interesting items you can put outdoors.

The last thing to worry about are the plants. Just get rid of all the weeds are create areas with seating also. You will start to see it take form.

I’ll send some pictures tomorrow if I remember. I’ve leaved at my current home for 10 years so we’ve had time to really make some interesting stuff.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: augustmoon on June 13, 2022, 07:07:59 PM
These are good suggestions and they’re gonna be a big help. 

My school schedule is so busy, and I’m basically studying every minute I’m not in class.  I made a point this last weekend to take a 10 minute break every couple hours to get some fresh air, and I started pulling some weeds, but I didn’t think I was making a dent.  I found myself enjoying it though.  Gonna make a point to keep doing these little garden breaks
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: fuhkin_powahfood_kid on June 13, 2022, 07:22:53 PM
These are good suggestions and they’re gonna be a big help. 

My school schedule is so busy, and I’m basically studying every minute I’m not in class.  I made a point this last weekend to take a 10 minute break every couple hours to get some fresh air, and I started pulling some weeds, but I didn’t think I was making a dent.  I found myself enjoying it though.  Gonna make a point to keep doing these little garden breaks

I was in school full time last year/this spring, hence my land space on this rental kind of going to shit. no joke, it's a lot of work. when I hadn't been in school, I had no problem throwing boxes together, digging holes, salvaging shit to build with etc. It will get done.

like @GardenSkater77 sez, reuse stuff from the property. Craigslist/FB marketplace is full of free shit that can be used to make your space better. I mean if you want it to look cookie cutter better homes and gardens, you're probably SOL, but if you can get creative in your spare time, you can make a unique space. Some municipalities have free dirt pickups, mulch, etc. look into that. cardboard kills weeds. Go to a bike shop and get a few bike boxes, open em up, and lay em down where the worst of the weeds are. After a month or so, the weeds will be something close to cooked.

All the while you're in school, just realize that it's worth it and the yard ain't going anywhere =)
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: keepthefunkalive on June 13, 2022, 08:10:16 PM
Man, I need some real help with this, I don’t know what the hell I’m doing

I bought a small home a little over a year ago, with some real minimal landscaping out front, but everything is dying and full of weeds and I don’t know where to start.  I’m in school full time and I hardly have time to sleep, much less garden, but it’s really looking like shit over here.

Yeah as mentioned a little bit at a time. You don't need to be growing all of your own food or have some immaculate flower arrangements. It all started for me by growing some cherry tomato plants in a 5 gallon bucket on my old apt balcony. As far as weeds go. You can take a couple hours to weedwack that shit, and throw wood chips on it. You can get literally a ton of wood chips for dirt cheap or free from local tree trimming companies if you make a couple calls.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: manysnakes on June 14, 2022, 09:50:04 AM
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These are good suggestions and they’re gonna be a big help. 

My school schedule is so busy, and I’m basically studying every minute I’m not in class.  I made a point this last weekend to take a 10 minute break every couple hours to get some fresh air, and I started pulling some weeds, but I didn’t think I was making a dent.  I found myself enjoying it though.  Gonna make a point to keep doing these little garden breaks
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I was in school full time last year/this spring, hence my land space on this rental kind of going to shit. no joke, it's a lot of work. when I hadn't been in school, I had no problem throwing boxes together, digging holes, salvaging shit to build with etc. It will get done.

like @GardenSkater77 sez, reuse stuff from the property. Craigslist/FB marketplace is full of free shit that can be used to make your space better. I mean if you want it to look cookie cutter better homes and gardens, you're probably SOL, but if you can get creative in your spare time, you can make a unique space. Some municipalities have free dirt pickups, mulch, etc. look into that. cardboard kills weeds. Go to a bike shop and get a few bike boxes, open em up, and lay em down where the worst of the weeds are. After a month or so, the weeds will be something close to cooked.

All the while you're in school, just realize that it's worth it and the yard ain't going anywhere =)

So I have been experimenting with cardboard for weed control and I would strongly suggest that anyone doing this use multiple layers of cardboard. My single-layer did next to nothing, everything is poking out of the cardboard - just went right through it. Where I laid down 2-4 layers of cardboard, stuff is slowly dying out.

But yes, get bike boxes - they're massive and most bike shops are burdened with their presence. Make sure you remove all the plastic from the box, and this includes the labels (which are often thermoprinted with BPA).
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: GardenSkater77 on June 14, 2022, 12:37:45 PM
Here is my wife’s garden in the front. I did the hard scrape and she did the landscape. Also, she hand built the trellis.

(https://i.imgur.com/LEdBLjc.jpg)
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on June 15, 2022, 11:25:27 PM
Awesome, I have some crazy shit going on at the moment. In a nutshell: I bought a property last year and the yard is bigger than the house itself. We started attempting permaculture and have recently harvested some strawberries, collared greens and beets. The process is a bit more epic than that though so I’ll give a more detailed overview when I’ve got some more time…
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on June 16, 2022, 06:39:31 AM
Here is my wife’s garden in the front. I did the hard scrape and she did the landscape. Also, she hand built the trellis.

(https://i.imgur.com/LEdBLjc.jpg)
This is sick, I love the DIY feel to it as opposed to a bunch of cookie cutter store bought features.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: GardenSkater77 on June 16, 2022, 08:00:16 AM
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Here is my wife’s garden in the front. I did the hard scrape and she did the landscape. Also, she hand built the trellis.

(https://i.imgur.com/LEdBLjc.jpg)
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This is sick, I love the DIY feel to it as opposed to a bunch of cookie cutter store bought features.

Appreciate the kind words. There is no master plan. She just keeps adding interesting things. It’s definitely a zen garden.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: somefucker on June 16, 2022, 08:07:03 AM
moving soon, i have to uproot some pepper plants from a planter that are just starting to flower/produce fruit.

whats the best way to transport these bad boys without shocking the roots/plant itself?
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Andmoreagain on June 16, 2022, 10:18:40 AM
damn you guys got me all inspired and shit. We just moved on to an acre along a river. Pretty overwhelmed with the amount of work that needs to be put into the grounds. This place was once a very sick organic garden but the previous owners let it go to shit for about 10 years.

I'm battling oriental bittersweet, sumac trees, garlic mustard, and stinging nettles to reclaim ground and protect the plants that haven't been overtaken yet. Also got a groundhog chompin on all the herbs and digging holes. I honestly don't know if we'll have time to do any significant planting this year but really looking forward to getting everything cleaned up.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on June 20, 2022, 09:52:35 AM
Some progress pics about a month and a half after planting.
(https://i.imgur.com/gs5MgmK.jpg)
All my pepper plants

(https://i.imgur.com/UmRazj7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CAsZFtt.jpg)
Cucumbers plants are growing fast. 
Didn't get a good pic of my tomatoes but they're starting to fruit.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: DaleSr on June 20, 2022, 12:54:52 PM
My mantis eggs hatched today. I'm super stoked that i have hundreds of little murderers roaming my garden now because something has been wrecking my stuff
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: layzieyez on June 20, 2022, 01:02:42 PM
I’m still trying to mitigate the insane amount of deer in my neighborhood. Developers have driven out so many out of their habitats and many of my neighbors feed them, too. I enjoy their company, but they have made it a nightmare to grow anything outside of container gardening.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on June 20, 2022, 02:07:41 PM
My mantis eggs hatched today. I'm super stoked that i have hundreds of little murderers roaming my garden now because something has been wrecking my stuff
I've got chipmunks that like to dig in mine, they don't mess with the plants themselves but they dig holes close enough to them that they mess up the root system, shit is annoying.  Mantis' would be fun to have around, I'm always stoked when I come across one because it's not very often.
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: excitableboy on March 04, 2024, 08:04:58 AM
Spring is upon us so I thought to revive this thread. Moved house in November and have a sizeable yard now. I did a winter garden with some cabbage, broccoli and bruxelles sprouts, but it was too late in the season. With the frost gone I've begun prepping this year's garden in earnest. Been tilling a bunch and growing tomatoes, eggplant and zucchini as well as some flowers from seed. Lavender, sage, parsley, thyme ], strawberry and mint in the borders. Also got a hand mower but now I wish I went for a scythe. I shied away from it in the end.

Anyone else giddy for the new growing season? 
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: gringo_viejo on March 04, 2024, 08:18:11 AM
Spring is upon us so I thought to revive this thread. Moved house in November and have a sizeable yard now. I did a winter garden with some cabbage, broccoli and bruxelles sprouts, but it was too late in the season. With the frost gone I've begun prepping this year's garden in earnest. Been tilling a bunch and growing tomatoes, eggplant and zucchini as well as some flowers from seed. Lavender, sage, parsley, thyme ], strawberry and mint in the borders. Also got a hand mower but now I wish I went for a scythe. I shied away from it in the end.

Anyone else giddy for the new growing season?

This is rad.
Good to see I'm not the only one who covers a scythe and a high-crown straw hat.
It seems like spring has come but I'm nervous to plant anything. Usually in the midwest it's more like May before you can count on it not freezing.
I want to plant a big chunk of my yard in native plants and wildflowers instead of lawn. Lowest maintenance possible, with maybe some butterfly/bird habitat.
I'm new at this though. Ideas?
Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: excitableboy on March 04, 2024, 09:27:54 AM
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Spring is upon us so I thought to revive this thread. Moved house in November and have a sizeable yard now. I did a winter garden with some cabbage, broccoli and bruxelles sprouts, but it was too late in the season. With the frost gone I've begun prepping this year's garden in earnest. Been tilling a bunch and growing tomatoes, eggplant and zucchini as well as some flowers from seed. Lavender, sage, parsley, thyme ], strawberry and mint in the borders. Also got a hand mower but now I wish I went for a scythe. I shied away from it in the end.

Anyone else giddy for the new growing season?
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This is rad.
Good to see I'm not the only one who covers a scythe and a high-crown straw hat.
It seems like spring has come but I'm nervous to plant anything. Usually in the midwest it's more like May before you can count on it not freezing.
I want to plant a big chunk of my yard in native plants and wildflowers instead of lawn. Lowest maintenance possible, with maybe some butterfly/bird habitat.
I'm new at this though. Ideas?

I'm pretty new to it myself, but if you check your growing zone you can find what to do. I got a calendar that guides me through the year, pretty neat! You could consider growing some things indoors, so by May you'll hit the ground running. Actually I planted wildflowers and grasses in part of the yard, too, where the previous tenants had put astro turf. Trying to draw in as many pollinators as possible, plus it should look cool. Any tips on getting into scything welcome!