| Filmmaker | Name | Year | Link |
| James Messina / Russell Houghten | New Balance Numeric - VX4000 | 2015 | Link (http://youtube.com/watch?v=9A5kLCYxETY#) |
| Sean Lomax | Dom Henry | Live Skateboard Media Edit | 2015 | (http://youtube.com/watch?v=vGvlFpw6qIg#) |
| Sean Lomax | The Cottonopolis Video | 2019 | Link (http://youtube.com/watch?v=hWjtZkD_5LU#) |
| James Cruickshank | Grey Skate Mag - Blend | 2015 | Link (http://youtube.com/watch?v=zObVfeI3SdM#) |
| James Cruickshank | Grey Skate Mag - Tarte au Citron | 2017 | Link (http://youtube.com/watch?v=A8o3c--C1tU#) |
| James Cruickshank | Grey Skate Mag - Pastel | 2018 | Link (http://vimeo.com/335146212#) |
| James Cruickshank | Grey Skate Mag - Uphill | 2018 | Link (http://vimeo.com/335171256#) |
| Ben Ericson / Nolan Wilson | The Killing Floor - Josh Anderson Pro | 2016 | Link (http://youtube.com/watch?v=dmN6YERbrro#) |
| Colin Heindel | Energy - New Rules | 2016 | Link (http://youtube.com/watch?v=EtfNYJCBPVI) |
| Colin Heindel | Energy - The Energy Video | 2016 | Link (http://youtube.com/watch?v=hVADApZFSCc) |
| Manolo | The Courthouse Video | 2017 | Link (http://skateboarding.transworld.net/videos/manolos-taps-courthouse-video/) |
| Sami El Hassani | Pop Trading Company - 4:3 | 2017 | Link (http://youtube.com/watch?v=_-YmedSN3W0#) |
| Sami El Hassani | Pop Trading Company - 4:3 Antwerpen | 2018 | Link (http://youtube.com/watch?v=RbpGDFagun4#) |
| Sami El Hassani | Pop Trading Company - 4:3 #03 | 2019 | Link (http://youtube.com/watch?v=HrdiwuA_V8Y) |
| Chris Mulhern | adidas Skateboarding presents /// MAGNUS | 2018 | Link (http://youtube.com/watch?v=7EuNycDVhGk) |
| Chris Mulhern | adidas Skateboarding presents /// HEITOR | 2019 | Link (http://youtube.com/watch?v=q7sTYHJc7AQ#) |
| PJ Chapuis | Rave Skateboards' "153 Rue Du Palais Gallien" | 2019 | Link (http://youtube.com/watch?v=iF8vpkIPWCc#) |
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wujs9uIIQc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wujs9uIIQc#)
This is just a test but I think I achieved a pretty close thing to a Vx Hd look. One thing it lacks to every other camera is good sound. People should try to EQ their audio in order to get better skate sounds. I am not saying mine is perfect neither...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wujs9uIIQc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wujs9uIIQc#)
This is just a test but I think I achieved a pretty close thing to a Vx Hd look. One thing it lacks to every other camera is good sound. People should try to EQ their audio in order to get better skate sounds. I am not saying mine is perfect neither...
Just put together a few 4:3 HD fisheye clips I had on my computer if anybody is curious.
4:3 HD Fisheye. Olympus E-M5 ii Lensbaby 5.8mm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLd9z2ysKXc&feature=youtu.be#)
For any filmers that may be trying to create this look without shelling out on a full frame camera or an expensive adapter and the Canon 8-15mm fisheye, any micro 4/3 camera that shoots video with a 2x crop factor (pana g7, gh3, gh4 etc) and the Lensbaby 5.8mm fisheye is a relatively affordable combo that is perfect for this look. The vig is a bit soft so you'll need to apply an overlay but that's not a big deal. Edges have a bit more fringing than the $1000 Canon fisheye but for the price it can't be beat. Definitely the cheapest way to recreate the HD VX look that I'm aware of.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wujs9uIIQc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wujs9uIIQc#)
This is just a test but I think I achieved a pretty close thing to a Vx Hd look. One thing it lacks to every other camera is good sound. People should try to EQ their audio in order to get better skate sounds. I am not saying mine is perfect neither...
Expand Quotewww.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wujs9uIIQc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wujs9uIIQc#)
This is just a test but I think I achieved a pretty close thing to a Vx Hd look. One thing it lacks to every other camera is good sound. People should try to EQ their audio in order to get better skate sounds. I am not saying mine is perfect neither...[close]
That's probably my main complaint of HD filming, or any non-VX stuff really: the sound of skateboarding captured on a VX is unparalleled--it just sounds right. It's blown out, kind of tinny sounding: simply put, it just sounds raw.
I know that's such a nit-picky thing to hone in on, but that shit matters to me, especially after being conditioned to VX footage for the past twenty years or whatever.
That newest Grey Magazine edit is a great example of this. That footage was soooooo great and filmed so well, probably my favorite edit of 2017 so far, but it just sounds weak.
Any of that fisheye footage would sound blazing with a VX, but give it a listen, 2:05, 2:30, 2:55, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8o3c--C1tU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8o3c--C1tU)
I've been working on a video that's HD 4:3, here's a few example clips. There's some color grading issues but I don't feel like fucking with it right now.
Canon XA20, Century MkI Fisheye, Rode VideoMic Pro.
I shoot fully zoomed out, then import the footage to a 1440x1080 timeline, and scale the video up to about 130%.
HD 4:3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPVI8RiR4Gs#)
Expand QuoteI've been working on a video that's HD 4:3, here's a few example clips. There's some color grading issues but I don't feel like fucking with it right now.
Canon XA20, Century MkI Fisheye, Rode VideoMic Pro.
I shoot fully zoomed out, then import the footage to a 1440x1080 timeline, and scale the video up to about 130%.
HD 4:3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPVI8RiR4Gs#)[close]
Funnily after the previous few posts I made, I think that mic sounds pretty good. Really cool stuff.
I've been working on a video that's HD 4:3, here's a few example clips. There's some color grading issues but I don't feel like fucking with it right now.
Canon XA20, Century MkI Fisheye, Rode VideoMic Pro.
I shoot fully zoomed out, then import the footage to a 1440x1080 timeline, and scale the video up to about 130%.
HD 4:3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPVI8RiR4Gs#)
Expand QuoteI've been working on a video that's HD 4:3, here's a few example clips. There's some color grading issues but I don't feel like fucking with it right now.
Canon XA20, Century MkI Fisheye, Rode VideoMic Pro.
I shoot fully zoomed out, then import the footage to a 1440x1080 timeline, and scale the video up to about 130%.
HD 4:3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPVI8RiR4Gs#)[close]
Funnily after the previous few posts I made, I think that mic sounds pretty good. Really cool stuff.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI've been working on a video that's HD 4:3, here's a few example clips. There's some color grading issues but I don't feel like fucking with it right now.
Canon XA20, Century MkI Fisheye, Rode VideoMic Pro.
I shoot fully zoomed out, then import the footage to a 1440x1080 timeline, and scale the video up to about 130%.
HD 4:3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPVI8RiR4Gs#)[close]
Funnily after the previous few posts I made, I think that mic sounds pretty good. Really cool stuff.[close]
Thanks! I have the VideoMic set to the -10 db setting, with the High Pass Filter on. There may be a better setting for skate audio, but it sounds good to me so I've just stuck with that.
On the subject of on-board mics, the XA20s is garbage. You would think a $2k video camera would have decent audio. It sounds TERRIBLE. Super tinny. The VideoMic sounds about a million times better.
Expand QuoteI've been working on a video that's HD 4:3, here's a few example clips. There's some color grading issues but I don't feel like fucking with it right now.
Canon XA20, Century MkI Fisheye, Rode VideoMic Pro.
I shoot fully zoomed out, then import the footage to a 1440x1080 timeline, and scale the video up to about 130%.
HD 4:3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPVI8RiR4Gs#)[close]
How do you like the XA20? If I ever made the switch to camcorder I'd probably get the XA20 due to the form factor. If you film 4:3, is there any way to achieve a similar look without having to scale up the video in post? What happens if you just shoot a bit more zoomed in? Also, what does XA20 MK1 footage look like in 16:9? Cheers.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI've been working on a video that's HD 4:3, here's a few example clips. There's some color grading issues but I don't feel like fucking with it right now.
Canon XA20, Century MkI Fisheye, Rode VideoMic Pro.
I shoot fully zoomed out, then import the footage to a 1440x1080 timeline, and scale the video up to about 130%.
HD 4:3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPVI8RiR4Gs#)[close]
Funnily after the previous few posts I made, I think that mic sounds pretty good. Really cool stuff.[close]
Thanks! I have the VideoMic set to the -10 db setting, with the High Pass Filter on. There may be a better setting for skate audio, but it sounds good to me so I've just stuck with that.
On the subject of on-board mics, the XA20s is garbage. You would think a $2k video camera would have decent audio. It sounds TERRIBLE. Super tinny. The VideoMic sounds about a million times better.[close]
I'm not sure if it's the case with camcorders, but if you're curious it may be worth a try. With most DSLRs and mirrorless cameras, the built in pre-amp is terrible compared to the pre-amp in the VideoMic Pro, so with the VideoMic Pro the best approach was to set it to +20dB, or as high as you can while minimising the gain level in the actual camera. That way you're minimising the impact the shitty pre-amp has while relying more on the pre-amp in the videomic pro. It made a slight improvement when I was using my friends Videomic pro a while back. But then again I'm not sure if the built in pre-amp in the xa20 would suck as hard as the ones in DSLRs so I may have said all this for nothing.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI've been working on a video that's HD 4:3, here's a few example clips. There's some color grading issues but I don't feel like fucking with it right now.
Canon XA20, Century MkI Fisheye, Rode VideoMic Pro.
I shoot fully zoomed out, then import the footage to a 1440x1080 timeline, and scale the video up to about 130%.
HD 4:3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPVI8RiR4Gs#)[close]
How do you like the XA20? If I ever made the switch to camcorder I'd probably get the XA20 due to the form factor. If you film 4:3, is there any way to achieve a similar look without having to scale up the video in post? What happens if you just shoot a bit more zoomed in? Also, what does XA20 MK1 footage look like in 16:9? Cheers.[close]
I really like the XA20. The form factor is great, it's a pretty tiny camera too.
I'm not sure of another way to achieve the cropped 4:3 than using the method I described. I use FCPX, may be able to do something differently, just not sure.
And here's what XA20/MkI looks like at 16:9, with the in-camera zoom set to leave just a bit of vig at the corners. I like that look as well, but it's hard to get as close as I want without chopping heads or wheels. That aspect ratio just leaves lots of negative space. When 16:9 is done with one of those Century Extreme HD lenses it looks great, but I'm not willing to drop $3500 on one.
Into the Fog / In the Life Zone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0fY8Dv1fmI#)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI've been working on a video that's HD 4:3, here's a few example clips. There's some color grading issues but I don't feel like fucking with it right now.
Canon XA20, Century MkI Fisheye, Rode VideoMic Pro.
I shoot fully zoomed out, then import the footage to a 1440x1080 timeline, and scale the video up to about 130%.
HD 4:3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPVI8RiR4Gs#)[close]
How do you like the XA20? If I ever made the switch to camcorder I'd probably get the XA20 due to the form factor. If you film 4:3, is there any way to achieve a similar look without having to scale up the video in post? What happens if you just shoot a bit more zoomed in? Also, what does XA20 MK1 footage look like in 16:9? Cheers.[close]
I really like the XA20. The form factor is great, it's a pretty tiny camera too.
I'm not sure of another way to achieve the cropped 4:3 than using the method I described. I use FCPX, may be able to do something differently, just not sure.
And here's what XA20/MkI looks like at 16:9, with the in-camera zoom set to leave just a bit of vig at the corners. I like that look as well, but it's hard to get as close as I want without chopping heads or wheels. That aspect ratio just leaves lots of negative space. When 16:9 is done with one of those Century Extreme HD lenses it looks great, but I'm not willing to drop $3500 on one.
Into the Fog / In the Life Zone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0fY8Dv1fmI#)[close]
Thanks for the info. I had a feeling it would be like that, it seems that the mk1/its opteka counterpart just weren't made for 16:9 footage. Does leave a bit of dead space on the sides but still doesn't look too bad. The xa20 looks real good to use, but the colours look a bit warm/magenta tint, did you try to go to that look or is that just the colour palette of the camera?
I've been working on a video that's HD 4:3, here's a few example clips. There's some color grading issues but I don't feel like fucking with it right now.
Canon XA20, Century MkI Fisheye, Rode VideoMic Pro.
I shoot fully zoomed out, then import the footage to a 1440x1080 timeline, and scale the video up to about 130%.
HD 4:3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPVI8RiR4Gs#)
Ben Ericson does it best. I also really enjoyed James Cruikshank's "blend" video for Grey.
And let's not forgot dudesarecool5 is so enjoyable
I'd really like to see more and more people utilize HD in 4:3. It's the perfect balance and skate videos aren't meant to be so wide. People on skateboards are a narrow, vertical thing.
Expand QuoteI've been working on a video that's HD 4:3, here's a few example clips. There's some color grading issues but I don't feel like fucking with it right now.
Canon XA20, Century MkI Fisheye, Rode VideoMic Pro.
I shoot fully zoomed out, then import the footage to a 1440x1080 timeline, and scale the video up to about 130%.
HD 4:3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPVI8RiR4Gs#)[close]
you put an mk1 screw on that baby?
James Cruickshank is doing it right. Everyone should copy whatever he's doingSeriously. Every other HD 4:3 clip looks flawed in some way other than his edits
THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=413cyyCkO5s#)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI've been working on a video that's HD 4:3, here's a few example clips. There's some color grading issues but I don't feel like fucking with it right now.
Canon XA20, Century MkI Fisheye, Rode VideoMic Pro.
I shoot fully zoomed out, then import the footage to a 1440x1080 timeline, and scale the video up to about 130%.
HD 4:3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPVI8RiR4Gs#)[close]
you put an mk1 screw on that baby?[close]
Indeed. Crazy thing is that the lens fits onto the camera with less than 1mm clearance from the mic/handle. I wrote to both Canon and Schneider/Century for measurements before I bought anything, and I'm really glad it fit.
I'm happy with the setup too, been using it for a couple years now.
If anyone has a vig overlay I can use, please send a DM. Thank you
Stoked at all the replies so far, these are all super good examples and discussion. Thanks everyone.
+1 that most glaring issue with this is the audio... nothing comes close to the crunchiness of the VX mic.Expand QuoteTHIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=413cyyCkO5s#)[close]
Yes! Forgot you were doing these. Still like the one you did with all the dubbed out skate sounds:
1835 Stoner Ave (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gct-XIKIBMw#)
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Absolutely agree with this. I'm pretty sure that modern camcorders and shotgun mics have objectively better audio quality than that of the vx1000, but vx1000 audio just sounds so fucking right for skating. One shotgun mic for those who film on DSLRs that I thought recreated vx audio fairly well is the Sony MS907/MS908c. It's pretty cheap but hard to find, definitely wouldn't wanna use it for anything besides skating.
Sorry for going off track.
What are good/cheap DSLRs I can create that VX look with the Lensbaby fisheye?
I seriously have no clue about DSLRs since I am still filming with MiniDV but I am pretty stoked of the footage here!
also: Does anybody know which setup James Cruickshank uses?
switching to HD is starting to get very tempting...
what kinda of handle set up are you guys using?
1-2 1-2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGjWVJ6jl7w#)
lil birthday thing i did for my friend, using his own music
also used the vx overlay from parker, thanks again!
Expand QuoteStoked at all the replies so far, these are all super good examples and discussion. Thanks everyone.
+1 that most glaring issue with this is the audio... nothing comes close to the crunchiness of the VX mic.Expand QuoteTHIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=413cyyCkO5s#)[close]
Yes! Forgot you were doing these. Still like the one you did with all the dubbed out skate sounds:
1835 Stoner Ave (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gct-XIKIBMw#)[close]
Thanks dude! it's not dubbed actually just a bunch of filters.
Expand Quote1-2 1-2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGjWVJ6jl7w#)
lil birthday thing i did for my friend, using his own music
also used the vx overlay from parker, thanks again![close]
psyched it worked out! Looks sick
1-2 1-2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGjWVJ6jl7w#)
lil birthday thing i did for my friend, using his own music
also used the vx overlay from parker, thanks again!
James Cruickshank is doing it right. Everyone should copy whatever he's doing
Expand Quote1-2 1-2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGjWVJ6jl7w#)
lil birthday thing i did for my friend, using his own music
also used the vx overlay from parker, thanks again![close]
Looks great, what's the setup? I personally don't think you need the vig overlay though. The natural, slightly less prominent vig in your previous video 'cutting test trailer' looks perfect already.
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lil birthday thing i did for my friend, using his own music
also used the vx overlay from parker, thanks again![close]
Looks great, what's the setup? I personally don't think you need the vig overlay though. The natural, slightly less prominent vig in your previous video 'cutting test trailer' looks perfect already.[close]
thanks
my setup is canon 6d with sennheiser MKE 400 mic, and canon 8-15mm fisheye with the fish set at 12mm for 4:3 filming.
Also thanks for the feedback on the vig overlay. I made the overlay that I used for the trailer, as the natural one on the canon lens is way too soft and looks shitty. I like the idea of the vx1000 one but in reality I agree with you, it kinda looks weird with the vx overlay.
Trying to decide which way to go for my full video ???
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I couldn't disagree more. I think anyone who plays back footage at 60 frames per second is doing it catastrophically wrong. That goes for a few videos in the thread. It looks terrible. The human eye naturally has motion blur, so should footage. Straying from 30 frames (eg. which is the frame rate of all vx footage) or 24 is just plain stupid. A lot of filmers film in 60fps for the option of smooth slow mo, but the final edit is usually outputed at 30fps.
To me it's like watching a movie on a TV with a high refresh rate, where it just makes up new frames to make the motion look smoother. It's the worst. I don't know why, but people always seem to forget the importance of frame rate. Keep in mind that if you have fully flared on DVD, you are watching a video that is entirely standard def. They filmed the b-roll with an HD camera but the final output was SD. The reason why the "HD" footage looked so different, wasn't the resolution, it was primarily the frame rate. I'd even go further and say I dislike when cinematic B-roll is outputed in 30fps (eg. Propeller).
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quote1-2 1-2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGjWVJ6jl7w#)
lil birthday thing i did for my friend, using his own music
also used the vx overlay from parker, thanks again![close]
Looks great, what's the setup? I personally don't think you need the vig overlay though. The natural, slightly less prominent vig in your previous video 'cutting test trailer' looks perfect already.[close]
thanks
my setup is canon 6d with sennheiser MKE 400 mic, and canon 8-15mm fisheye with the fish set at 12mm for 4:3 filming.
Also thanks for the feedback on the vig overlay. I made the overlay that I used for the trailer, as the natural one on the canon lens is way too soft and looks shitty. I like the idea of the vx1000 one but in reality I agree with you, it kinda looks weird with the vx overlay.
Trying to decide which way to go for my full video ???[close]
The main reason I use vig overlay on my footage is because the lensbaby vig flares like a bitch 70% of the time and the vig looks almost white sometimes. That isn't an issue on the 8-15mm. The overlay you used seems like a little too much vig for the amount of distortion. I personally wouldn't worry about the vig in your trailer video looking a bit soft, part of the whole large sensor camera look is a shallower depth of field. Because your lens would be focused at around infinity for filming, I would go as far as saying that razor sharp vignetting looks a little unnatural as things that close to the sensor shouldn't be 100% in focus.
Then again, this is just my personal opinion. Definitely do what you think is best, can't really go wrong either way.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quote1-2 1-2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGjWVJ6jl7w#)
lil birthday thing i did for my friend, using his own music
also used the vx overlay from parker, thanks again![close]
Looks great, what's the setup? I personally don't think you need the vig overlay though. The natural, slightly less prominent vig in your previous video 'cutting test trailer' looks perfect already.[close]
thanks
my setup is canon 6d with sennheiser MKE 400 mic, and canon 8-15mm fisheye with the fish set at 12mm for 4:3 filming.
Also thanks for the feedback on the vig overlay. I made the overlay that I used for the trailer, as the natural one on the canon lens is way too soft and looks shitty. I like the idea of the vx1000 one but in reality I agree with you, it kinda looks weird with the vx overlay.
Trying to decide which way to go for my full video ???[close]
The main reason I use vig overlay on my footage is because the lensbaby vig flares like a bitch 70% of the time and the vig looks almost white sometimes. That isn't an issue on the 8-15mm. The overlay you used seems like a little too much vig for the amount of distortion. I personally wouldn't worry about the vig in your trailer video looking a bit soft, part of the whole large sensor camera look is a shallower depth of field. Because your lens would be focused at around infinity for filming, I would go as far as saying that razor sharp vignetting looks a little unnatural as things that close to the sensor shouldn't be 100% in focus.
Then again, this is just my personal opinion. Definitely do what you think is best, can't really go wrong either way.[close]
yea its kinda pedantic on my part but i just want it to look as good as possible. i think the vig in the trailer is barely any bigger than the natural vig from the 8-15 lens.
for this lil edit i used the natural vig from the 8-15
gavins birthday bash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivBMkeHJ95w#)
its not as bad as a lens flare but it doesn't look good to me.
lol thats exactly what i did, the one for my trailer has an overlay i made in final cut pro, with a slight blur on the edges. and yea i agree it looks best.
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lil birthday thing i did for my friend, using his own music
also used the vx overlay from parker, thanks again![close]
Looks great, what's the setup? I personally don't think you need the vig overlay though. The natural, slightly less prominent vig in your previous video 'cutting test trailer' looks perfect already.[close]
thanks
my setup is canon 6d with sennheiser MKE 400 mic, and canon 8-15mm fisheye with the fish set at 12mm for 4:3 filming.
Also thanks for the feedback on the vig overlay. I made the overlay that I used for the trailer, as the natural one on the canon lens is way too soft and looks shitty. I like the idea of the vx1000 one but in reality I agree with you, it kinda looks weird with the vx overlay.
Trying to decide which way to go for my full video ???[close]
The main reason I use vig overlay on my footage is because the lensbaby vig flares like a bitch 70% of the time and the vig looks almost white sometimes. That isn't an issue on the 8-15mm. The overlay you used seems like a little too much vig for the amount of distortion. I personally wouldn't worry about the vig in your trailer video looking a bit soft, part of the whole large sensor camera look is a shallower depth of field. Because your lens would be focused at around infinity for filming, I would go as far as saying that razor sharp vignetting looks a little unnatural as things that close to the sensor shouldn't be 100% in focus.
Then again, this is just my personal opinion. Definitely do what you think is best, can't really go wrong either way.[close]
yea its kinda pedantic on my part but i just want it to look as good as possible. i think the vig in the trailer is barely any bigger than the natural vig from the 8-15 lens.
for this lil edit i used the natural vig from the 8-15
gavins birthday bash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivBMkeHJ95w#)
its not as bad as a lens flare but it doesn't look good to me.[close]
This is night footage, so you probably had your aperture set to f4 or something as opposed to say f11 during the day? Thats probably why the vig is a bit fuzzier than natural 8-15mm vig when the lens is stopped down more. Quite the dilemma. Perhaps a solution would be to edit the vig template in premiere pro and decrease its sharpness/add a little blur to the vig? So thats its not razor sharp but not blurry. I might try that sometime actually, could work for my footage too.
EDIT:
Tried a slightly blurred version of the vig overlay. Here's a clip comparing the different settings. First one is no overlay, second one is with the mk1 overlay I shared a few posts up, last one is with the overlay with gaussian blur(premiere pro) set to about 6 or 7, can be adjusted in scale and degree to whatever you think is best. I think the 3rd one is pretty ideal, not unnaturally razor sharp but still very well defined, can't believe I didn't think of this earlier. Maybe it could work for your footage too.
em5-ii lensbaby 5.8mm vig setting comparison (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_TlmkfFwjs&feature=youtu.be#)
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lil birthday thing i did for my friend, using his own music
also used the vx overlay from parker, thanks again![close]
Looks great, what's the setup? I personally don't think you need the vig overlay though. The natural, slightly less prominent vig in your previous video 'cutting test trailer' looks perfect already.[close]
thanks
my setup is canon 6d with sennheiser MKE 400 mic, and canon 8-15mm fisheye with the fish set at 12mm for 4:3 filming.
Also thanks for the feedback on the vig overlay. I made the overlay that I used for the trailer, as the natural one on the canon lens is way too soft and looks shitty. I like the idea of the vx1000 one but in reality I agree with you, it kinda looks weird with the vx overlay.
Trying to decide which way to go for my full video ???[close]
The main reason I use vig overlay on my footage is because the lensbaby vig flares like a bitch 70% of the time and the vig looks almost white sometimes. That isn't an issue on the 8-15mm. The overlay you used seems like a little too much vig for the amount of distortion. I personally wouldn't worry about the vig in your trailer video looking a bit soft, part of the whole large sensor camera look is a shallower depth of field. Because your lens would be focused at around infinity for filming, I would go as far as saying that razor sharp vignetting looks a little unnatural as things that close to the sensor shouldn't be 100% in focus.
Then again, this is just my personal opinion. Definitely do what you think is best, can't really go wrong either way.[close]
yea its kinda pedantic on my part but i just want it to look as good as possible. i think the vig in the trailer is barely any bigger than the natural vig from the 8-15 lens.
for this lil edit i used the natural vig from the 8-15
gavins birthday bash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivBMkeHJ95w#)
its not as bad as a lens flare but it doesn't look good to me.[close]
This is night footage, so you probably had your aperture set to f4 or something as opposed to say f11 during the day? Thats probably why the vig is a bit fuzzier than natural 8-15mm vig when the lens is stopped down more. Quite the dilemma. Perhaps a solution would be to edit the vig template in premiere pro and decrease its sharpness/add a little blur to the vig? So thats its not razor sharp but not blurry. I might try that sometime actually, could work for my footage too.
EDIT:
Tried a slightly blurred version of the vig overlay. Here's a clip comparing the different settings. First one is no overlay, second one is with the mk1 overlay I shared a few posts up, last one is with the overlay with gaussian blur(premiere pro) set to about 6 or 7, can be adjusted in scale and degree to whatever you think is best. I think the 3rd one is pretty ideal, not unnaturally razor sharp but still very well defined, can't believe I didn't think of this earlier. Maybe it could work for your footage too.
em5-ii lensbaby 5.8mm vig setting comparison (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_TlmkfFwjs&feature=youtu.be#)[close]
what settings are you using to compress this to 4:3?
Lumix Gx80 with Meike 6.5 Fisheye (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YvYJJ0lwQw&feature=youtu.be#)
Here is another option, pretty similar to tzhangdox?s option. Is a quick test filmed with a Lumix Gx80(micro 4/3) that has no mic input. So it is recorded with the internal Mic which is the worst microphone ever made.
The fisheye is a Meike 6.5 (149$) pretty affordable price.
Lumix Gx80 with Meike 6.5 Fisheye (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YvYJJ0lwQw&feature=youtu.be#)
Here is another option, pretty similar to tzhangdox?s option. Is a quick test filmed with a Lumix Gx80(micro 4/3) that has no mic input. So it is recorded with the internal Mic which is the worst microphone ever made.
The fisheye is a Meike 6.5 (149$) pretty affordable price.
I mean that when I look the footage on my computer it looks great but when I upload it to Youtube it looks really bad. I have tried different export settings but they all look the same.
If I film 4:3 internally I only have the 640 x 480 option. I also tried filming 1080 x 720 60fps and then crop it to 4:3 but I don't like how it looks like, I feel like I'm loosing the "VX" effect that I can achieve with the Canon 8-15.
Sorry for my English and thanks in advance.
Since this seems to be a somewhat active filming thread, I wanted to ask something about filming lines.If you're filming fisheye, there's not much depth of field happening, generally pout the fisheye to the ground from a standing position and hit auto focus button then switch it back to manual focus mode, as long as you're aperture isn't open super wide you'll be fine, set it as near to f5.6 as possible.
Am I supposed to be using autofocus when doing this? How am I supposed to manually control the focus ring when the skater is moving closer and further away as I'm filming. Seems unrealistic to set my focus, like 8ft away for example and roll along side them without deviating a few inches/feet as the line progresses. I'm filming with an HPX170 with Xtreme lens.
I know it's not directly related to 4:3 HD filming so feel free to kook me or whatever. For anyone that can provide some help, I appreciate it.
Could i put together a sony a7 setup under $1000 or is that stupid? Im seeing used bodies for ~$650
edit: typo
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-_5uEMm00xPRVF3NFpraElmR1E
For whoever else that wants it, here is the 4:3 mk1 vig that I use, as seen in the sample footage I posted in the last page.
Can anyone tell me how to crop to 4:3 in final cut pro x? Everytime I set up a project in 1440x1080p then add 16:9 footage, it just keeps it as 16:9. As well when I add any footage shot in 4:3 it just has the black bars on the sides when I export. I want my video to literally be 4:3, not just letterboxed in 16:9. Youtube tutorials are not answering this for me, unfortunately.
Expand QuoteCan anyone tell me how to crop to 4:3 in final cut pro x? Everytime I set up a project in 1440x1080p then add 16:9 footage, it just keeps it as 16:9. As well when I add any footage shot in 4:3 it just has the black bars on the sides when I export. I want my video to literally be 4:3, not just letterboxed in 16:9. Youtube tutorials are not answering this for me, unfortunately.[close]
Here's what works for me:
After choosing New Project, in the Video > Format field, choose "Custom" instead of 1080/720/etc. Then in the Resolution field you can type in the 4:3 resolution you want (1440 x 1080), and Frame Rate doesn't matter.
That will create a true 4:3 project, then bring your 16:9 clips in, and scale them up to fill the frame. For me it's right at 134%.
I don't know why doing it this way works and choosing the 1440x1080 preset DOESN'T work. I am assuming using the preset makes FCP prioritize the "1080p HD" setting over the actual resolution, but who knows.
Here's a short one I did recently using 1080/60p source footage into a Custom/1440x1080/29.97p project, I think it came out pretty good. Please forgive the dirty/scratched Mk I, I need to get a new front element for it.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BmLfZKvHCwS
Expand QuoteCan anyone tell me how to crop to 4:3 in final cut pro x? Everytime I set up a project in 1440x1080p then add 16:9 footage, it just keeps it as 16:9. As well when I add any footage shot in 4:3 it just has the black bars on the sides when I export. I want my video to literally be 4:3, not just letterboxed in 16:9. Youtube tutorials are not answering this for me, unfortunately.[close]
Here's what works for me:
After choosing New Project, in the Video > Format field, choose "Custom" instead of 1080/720/etc. Then in the Resolution field you can type in the 4:3 resolution you want (1440 x 1080), and Frame Rate doesn't matter.
That will create a true 4:3 project, then bring your 16:9 clips in, and scale them up to fill the frame. For me it's right at 134%.
I don't know why doing it this way works and choosing the 1440x1080 preset DOESN'T work. I am assuming using the preset makes FCP prioritize the "1080p HD" setting over the actual resolution, but who knows.
Here's a short one I did recently using 1080/60p source footage into a Custom/1440x1080/29.97p project, I think it came out pretty good. Please forgive the dirty/scratched Mk I, I need to get a new front element for it.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BmLfZKvHCwS
Clip looks great—what camera are you using? I assume you had to get some sort of adapter for the mk1? Don’t think I’ve heard of anyone using mk1 on HD, only mkII.
I'm working on a 4:3 HD video right now too, using GH5/8-15 and an AC90 for longlens. Here's a little examplewhat did you film in format wise?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhoswLyF_K5/
The GH5 fisheye stuff is in the 4k/60fps anamorphic mode (the last slowmo shot is 1080p120) and the AC90 is 1080p60. I use a 1440 x 1080 project and scale the fisheye stuff down there.what did you film in format wise?Expand QuoteI'm working on a 4:3 HD video right now too, using GH5/8-15 and an AC90 for longlens. Here's a little example
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhoswLyF_K5/[close]
cool, did you use a m4/3 8-15 or canon with a speedbooster?The GH5 fisheye stuff is in the 4k/60fps anamorphic mode (the last slowmo shot is 1080p120) and the AC90 is 1080p60. I use a 1440 x 1080 project and scale the fisheye stuff down there.Expand Quotewhat did you film in format wise?Expand QuoteI'm working on a 4:3 HD video right now too, using GH5/8-15 and an AC90 for longlens. Here's a little example
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhoswLyF_K5/[close][close]
Canon 8-15 with a Viltrox EF-M2 speedbooster (0.71x, same as the Metabones Speedbooster Ultra but cheaper)cool, did you use a m4/3 8-15 or canon with a speedbooster?Expand QuoteThe GH5 fisheye stuff is in the 4k/60fps anamorphic mode (the last slowmo shot is 1080p120) and the AC90 is 1080p60. I use a 1440 x 1080 project and scale the fisheye stuff down there.Expand Quotewhat did you film in format wise?Expand QuoteI'm working on a 4:3 HD video right now too, using GH5/8-15 and an AC90 for longlens. Here's a little example[close][close][close]
I'm working on a 4:3 HD video right now too, using GH5/8-15 and an AC90 for longlens. Here's a little example
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhoswLyF_K5/
does anyone ever filmed with a hvx PAL? i am about to buy one but i dont know how the 50fps will look
Just to add to examples of 4:3 HD (a relatively more affordable option too). I don't film much but made an edit of all the footage I've been sitting on a short while ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF3Cd55Zwoo&t=163s
Expand QuoteJust to add to examples of 4:3 HD (a relatively more affordable option too). I don't film much but made an edit of all the footage I've been sitting on a short while ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF3Cd55Zwoo&t=163s[close]
What's the setup?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteJust to add to examples of 4:3 HD (a relatively more affordable option too). I don't film much but made an edit of all the footage I've been sitting on a short while ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF3Cd55Zwoo&t=163s[close]
What's the setup?[close]
Olympus em5 mark ii with a lensbaby 5.8mm fish. The meike 6.5mm fish looks similar too, slightly sharper, a hair less wide. Other micro 4/3s cameras like the gh4, g7, or any panasonic m43 body with a mic jack would be better than this, but this is also my photo camera and I like the Olympus ergonomics for shooting photos.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteJust to add to examples of 4:3 HD (a relatively more affordable option too). I don't film much but made an edit of all the footage I've been sitting on a short while ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF3Cd55Zwoo&t=163s[close]
What's the setup?[close]
Olympus em5 mark ii with a lensbaby 5.8mm fish. The meike 6.5mm fish looks similar too, slightly sharper, a hair less wide. Other micro 4/3s cameras like the gh4, g7, or any panasonic m43 body with a mic jack would be better than this, but this is also my photo camera and I like the Olympus ergonomics for shooting photos.[close]
Thanks for the info. But I should really stop thinking of ways to squander my money. Think i'll just stick to iphone. Sold my TRV 900 cos I don't use it anymore
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteJust to add to examples of 4:3 HD (a relatively more affordable option too). I don't film much but made an edit of all the footage I've been sitting on a short while ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF3Cd55Zwoo&t=163s[close]
What's the setup?[close]
Olympus em5 mark ii with a lensbaby 5.8mm fish. The meike 6.5mm fish looks similar too, slightly sharper, a hair less wide. Other micro 4/3s cameras like the gh4, g7, or any panasonic m43 body with a mic jack would be better than this, but this is also my photo camera and I like the Olympus ergonomics for shooting photos.[close]
Thanks for the info. But I should really stop thinking of ways to squander my money. Think i'll just stick to iphone. Sold my TRV 900 cos I don't use it anymore[close]
fair enough. honestly you can get pretty good results in decent light with the newer iphones if you lock the exposure. the 4k resolution is quite good for zooming long lens shots without losing too much quality if you get the hang of it doing it with your fingers. I've seen a lot of good footage filmed on iphones and clip on fisheyes.
You should get Filmic Pro. You can customize the frame rate/aspect ratio/resolution as well as a bunch more manual settings.
I just released a little teaser for a 4:3 video I'm currently working on:
http://vimeo.com/316621951
Expand QuoteI just released a little teaser for a 4:3 video I'm currently working on:
http://vimeo.com/316621951[close]
Looks great man. Just out of curiosity, does the ac90 have a 4:3 guide frame option or do you just kinda eyeball it
anyone do this with an HVX? it seems that there aren't any fisheyes that could get that tight of a crop
Bump! Anybody do this stuff with premiere? Trying to figure out how to crop footage to 4:3 but I'm stumped lol. Always coming out choppy and lower quality..
Really great stuff in this thread! The most recent Heitor Adidas feature by Chris Mulhern was also HD 4:3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7sTYHJc7AQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7sTYHJc7AQ)
I´m currently filming with a HPX170 longlens and I´m thinking about getting a mirrorless cam for fisheye shots. Since the HPX only films in 720p anyway, would it make sense to get an older (and therefore cheaper) mirroless camera for fisheye shots? The GH5 and Sony A7sII footage looks absolutely stunning but I´m wondering if the longlens shots are 720p if it´d make sense to have the fisheye shots 1080p upwards.
I´m thinking of getting the Panasonic GH2 and I've got a Rokinon 7.5 mm fisheye flying around here already. Basically my question is: Given that the longlens shots are all 720p, would the fisheye footage with a GH5/A7sII + Canon 8-15mm so much better than the budget version that it would be worth it to invest roughly 2000$ more?
I'm working on a 4:3 HD video right now too, using GH5/8-15 and an AC90 for longlens. Here's a little examplei might have asked before, which 8-15 lens and are you using a speedbooster?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhoswLyF_K5/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSBS4aEemmE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSBS4aEemmE)
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bthcwa-FPNC/?utm_source=ig_web_options_share_sheet (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bthcwa-FPNC/?utm_source=ig_web_options_share_sheet)
is there ANY word on what Kev's setup is looking like? gotta say that's one probably one of the best I've seen. have to give it up for the ENERGY guy too though. very nice
Has anyone used the Meike 6-11mm fisheye on Gh5? The MFT version lens not the EF with speedbooster combo.
Wondering if it would be a good option since you can zoom in and get your desired vig, instead of having to crop... or if the meike 6.5mm is the better (and also cheaper option)
Expand QuoteHas anyone used the Meike 6-11mm fisheye on Gh5? The MFT version lens not the EF with speedbooster combo.
Wondering if it would be a good option since you can zoom in and get your desired vig, instead of having to crop... or if the meike 6.5mm is the better (and also cheaper option)[close]
Never heard of either one, but based on some test footage I just watched on Youtube, it doesn't look great.
I'm premiering a full length 4:3 HD video next weekend, and will hopefully have some Bluray hardcopies available shortly after.
Here's a super quick teaser I just put out:
http://www.instagram.com/p/B4iQlGKlYQD/
There's a longer teaser from a few months ago is a little ways back in this thread, too.
Expand QuoteHas anyone used the Meike 6-11mm fisheye on Gh5? The MFT version lens not the EF with speedbooster combo.
Wondering if it would be a good option since you can zoom in and get your desired vig, instead of having to crop... or if the meike 6.5mm is the better (and also cheaper option)[close]
Never heard of either one, but based on some test footage I just watched on Youtube, it doesn't look great.
I'm premiering a full length 4:3 HD video next weekend, and will hopefully have some Bluray hardcopies available shortly after.
Here's a super quick teaser I just put out:
http://www.instagram.com/p/B4iQlGKlYQD/
There's a longer teaser from a few months ago is a little ways back in this thread, too.
do you guys use a separate camera for long lens shots or a special lens?
most zoom lenses have a variable aperture and are varifocal
James Cruickshank is doing it right. Everyone should copy whatever he's doing
pretty wack this set up
I'm working on a 4:3 HD video right now too, using GH5/8-15 and an AC90 for longlens. Here's a little example
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhoswLyF_K5/
Does anyone have a vig overlay and the time to send it to me? Would be really awesome and i'd be super grateful!
Does anyone have a vig overlay and the time to send it to me? Would be really awesome and i'd be super grateful!
the new stussy clip is apparently ment to be 4:3. so look out for that ;)
Obviously filmed 4:3 in HD, and the footage is really grainy which is sick, but sort of a waste as it's uploaded at an SD resolution and an SD bitrate -- sorta digitally washed out cause of that. Bummer to have such a nice piece of work chopped up by web encoding. Would be sick to see a proper encode of this.
Expand QuoteThe whole 4:3 HD shit can save it though, ENERGY has that shit patented.[close]
It isn't HD. Even though it's an HD camera, the HVX can also film with Mini DV tapes in standard def which is what (most of) this vid was filmed on.
Expand QuoteObviously filmed 4:3 in HD, and the footage is really grainy which is sick, but sort of a waste as it's uploaded at an SD resolution and an SD bitrate -- sorta digitally washed out cause of that. Bummer to have such a nice piece of work chopped up by web encoding. Would be sick to see a proper encode of this.[close]Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThe whole 4:3 HD shit can save it though, ENERGY has that shit patented.[close]
It isn't HD. Even though it's an HD camera, the HVX can also film with Mini DV tapes in standard def which is what (most of) this vid was filmed on.[close]
Expand Quotehttps://www.instagram.com/p/Bthcwa-FPNC/?utm_source=ig_web_options_share_sheet (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bthcwa-FPNC/?utm_source=ig_web_options_share_sheet)[close]
is there ANY word on what Kev's setup is looking like? gotta say that's one probably one of the best I've seen. have to give it up for the ENERGY guy too though. very nice
Expand QuoteExpand Quotehttps://www.instagram.com/p/Bthcwa-FPNC/?utm_source=ig_web_options_share_sheet (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bthcwa-FPNC/?utm_source=ig_web_options_share_sheet)[close]
is there ANY word on what Kev's setup is looking like? gotta say that's one probably one of the best I've seen. have to give it up for the ENERGY guy too though. very nice[close]
Did anyone figure out the setup? Browsed through his instagram and seems like he's not willing to part with the knowledge.
For all your mirrorless shooters, have you been able to find any handle even remotely as good as the Eazy Handle?never had an eazy handle, so can't say for certain, but i got this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MYPB86S
For all your mirrorless shooters, have you been able to find any handle even remotely as good as the Eazy Handle?just get a cage with a handle for your specific camera. good brands are tilta, wooden camera, 8sinn, and if you're on a budget, SmallRig. what camera do you own? i can post some links.
I've tried the Opteka Eazyhandle ripoff (same as the one above) as well as a smallrig cage and handle and nothing comes close to the Eazyhandle V2. They pop up on eBay every now and then.https://www.instagram.com/p/B9pQBlyFZmW/?igshid=14dah0sweq211
https://www.instagram.com/p/B9pQBlyFZmW/?igshid=14dah0sweq211how's $3.50 sound?
how's $3.50 sound?Expand Quotehttps://www.instagram.com/p/B9pQBlyFZmW/?igshid=14dah0sweq211[close]
just get a cage with a handle for your specific camera. good brands are tilta, wooden camera, 8sinn, and if you're on a budget, SmallRig. what camera do you own? i can post some links.Expand QuoteFor all your mirrorless shooters, have you been able to find any handle even remotely as good as the Eazy Handle?[close]
or flip the handle around to face the other way. might have to buy a cold shoe for that side of the handle if you want to put a light there. your mic would be perfect in the angled on on the right side.Expand Quotejust get a cage with a handle for your specific camera. good brands are tilta, wooden camera, 8sinn, and if you're on a budget, SmallRig. what camera do you own? i can post some links.Expand QuoteFor all your mirrorless shooters, have you been able to find any handle even remotely as good as the Eazy Handle?[close][close]
Right now I'm using a GH4 with SmallRig cage and handle. It's alright - just feel like it could be improved. Probably will add counterweights to hopefully make it a bit steadier.
(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-1zvaiaywbz/products/1787/images/7814/SMALLRIG_Camera_Cage_for_Panasonic_DMC-GH4GH31980__67525.1515660284.500.750.jpg?c=2)
Sorry if this has been mentioned already, but I am tired. Anyone got any guesses as to what James Cruickshank uses for long lenshe uses either a Panasonic HMC150 or HPX170. They're basically the same camera. save even more money and find a HVX200a but suffer the weight and bad low-light footage. HMC150 is the lightest and uses the cheapest media (SD cards) but the HPX has a better codec (can stand to colour grading and is "broadcast ready") if that matters to you. Both will look exactly the same once uploaded to YouTube.
source of this information? i asked him on instagram and he never respondedhe uses either a Panasonic HMC150 or HPX170. They're basically the same camera. save even more money and find a HVX200a but suffer the weight and bad low-light footage. HMC150 is the lightest and uses the cheapest media (SD cards) but the HPX has a better codec (can stand to colour grading and is "broadcast ready") if that matters to you. Both will look exactly the same once uploaded to YouTube.Expand QuoteSorry if this has been mentioned already, but I am tired. Anyone got any guesses as to what James Cruickshank uses for long lens[close]
The reason most people use those is obviously for the zoom, but a very common reason for the dslr setup combo is that sometimes it's cheaper to buy a whole dslr setup just for fisheye than it is to buy an xtreme fisheye for your panasonic.
if you already have a sony mirrorless, the PZ 18-105mm F4 lens has somewhat of a zoom rocker on it and is used by Chris Mulhern and a lot of other sony shooters.
seeing it in footage and photos of him (im pretty sure) and its just the most reasonable option. its a kit lens option that comes with the FS5 (which is what he shoots with). Only other options for constant aperture sony zooms with servos are $2500 and $3700.Expand Quotesource of this information? i asked him on instagram and he never respondedExpand Quoteif you already have a sony mirrorless, the PZ 18-105mm F4 lens has somewhat of a zoom rocker on it and is used by Chris Mulhern and a lot of other sony shooters.[close][close]
Here's a small edit of footage I filmed in the last year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL1vwc-GMQs&feature=emb_title (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL1vwc-GMQs&feature=emb_title)
My first crack at some HD 4:3 mixing a Canon XA30 long lens, with a GH5 sporting a shitty opteka 6.5mm fisheye with a sawed off lens hood😂(got the 8-15 on the way don't worry)
Thanks man! I was going to go that route but I was just able to find a used Canon 8-15mm for a bit less than what I could get an mk1/mk2 for. I mainly wanted a B camera with a decent zoom rocker and 1080 60p. Pretty stoked on the results for a first time out!
For all your mirrorless shooters, have you been able to find any handle even remotely as good as the Eazy Handle?
Expand Quotejust get a cage with a handle for your specific camera. good brands are tilta, wooden camera, 8sinn, and if you're on a budget, SmallRig. what camera do you own? i can post some links.Expand QuoteFor all your mirrorless shooters, have you been able to find any handle even remotely as good as the Eazy Handle?[close][close]
Right now I'm using a GH4 with SmallRig cage and handle. It's alright - just feel like it could be improved. Probably will add counterweights to hopefully make it a bit steadier.
(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-1zvaiaywbz/products/1787/images/7814/SMALLRIG_Camera_Cage_for_Panasonic_DMC-GH4GH31980__67525.1515660284.500.750.jpg?c=2)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDoes anyone have a vig overlay and the time to send it to me? Would be really awesome and i'd be super grateful![close]
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4tpbjr67r86gksc/VXVIG.psd?dl=0
It is a PSD so if you want to resize/position the file in Photoshop you can. Just make sure you are covering up any vignetting from your previous lens (even the blue fuzzy bits around it) so it looks clean.[close]
Yo thank you and tzhangdox so much!
Here's a small edit of footage I filmed in the last year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL1vwc-GMQs&feature=emb_title (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL1vwc-GMQs&feature=emb_title)
One day someone will make a plug in for Premiere Pro or something where it adjusts the sound with EQ and whatever to match it pretty close, and it probably wouldn't be that hard to make a plugin like that, but till then I'm open minded to see what people come up with!somebody said they'd look into this in another thread
It sounds like the VX boosts mid frequencies, whereas the GH5 is pretty flat. I'd almost guarantee that the VX boosts frequencies that Sony decided were in the 'voice' spectrum.
If you wanna send me the audio files of each I reckon I could figure out exactly what's going on. And I'd be willing to bet that a plugin could mimic the VX really, really well. Audio plugins have come a long way; they can mimic the sound of various machines and rooms at Abbey Road, so I'm sure we could crack the secret of why a VX sounds so good.
I love the idea of 4:3 HD footage. The examples you list are great! That VX4000 video was so sick, I remember watching that in college when it dropped.
Just to stick my nose in:
I feel like when people compare other cameras audio to the VX, I feel like people forget that the VX has a stereo microphone, so when people by a shotgun microphone like the Rode Video Mic you're getting a very narrow direction of sound, instead of capturing stereo to the left and right channels. Small thing but I feel it makes the difference. Another thing as well is that the VX AGC always peaks skate sounds, such as pops and lands, everything else is well controlled. If you have manual controls of both Channel 1 and Channel 2 audio, you could set your audio levels just so and play around with the sound in the edit to match the AGC the VX1000 has. Obviously it won't be that close but it's worth experimenting with to try and match the AGC because I feel like that's where some of the quality comes into play. You ever here VX audio with MANUAL audio levels? Sounds like shite!
The VXMic is a cool idea, but it seems that the in built audio converters or whatever in your camera still add something that takes away from that VX quality we're looking for. Some people got it sounding pretty good! But there are wayyyy too many people who bought that and have no fucking idea how to use it. Also, it's £300! I bought a fully functioning VX1000e with accessories for £320! One day someone will make a plug in for Premiere Pro or something where it adjusts the sound with EQ and whatever to match it pretty close, and it probably wouldn't be that hard to make a plugin like that, but till then I'm open minded to see what people come up with!
somebody said they'd look into this in another threadExpand QuoteOne day someone will make a plug in for Premiere Pro or something where it adjusts the sound with EQ and whatever to match it pretty close, and it probably wouldn't be that hard to make a plugin like that, but till then I'm open minded to see what people come up with![close]Expand QuoteIt sounds like the VX boosts mid frequencies, whereas the GH5 is pretty flat. I'd almost guarantee that the VX boosts frequencies that Sony decided were in the 'voice' spectrum.
If you wanna send me the audio files of each I reckon I could figure out exactly what's going on. And I'd be willing to bet that a plugin could mimic the VX really, really well. Audio plugins have come a long way; they can mimic the sound of various machines and rooms at Abbey Road, so I'm sure we could crack the secret of why a VX sounds so good.[close]
Expand QuoteI love the idea of 4:3 HD footage. The examples you list are great! That VX4000 video was so sick, I remember watching that in college when it dropped.
Just to stick my nose in:
I feel like when people compare other cameras audio to the VX, I feel like people forget that the VX has a stereo microphone, so when people by a shotgun microphone like the Rode Video Mic you're getting a very narrow direction of sound, instead of capturing stereo to the left and right channels. Small thing but I feel it makes the difference. Another thing as well is that the VX AGC always peaks skate sounds, such as pops and lands, everything else is well controlled. If you have manual controls of both Channel 1 and Channel 2 audio, you could set your audio levels just so and play around with the sound in the edit to match the AGC the VX1000 has. Obviously it won't be that close but it's worth experimenting with to try and match the AGC because I feel like that's where some of the quality comes into play. You ever here VX audio with MANUAL audio levels? Sounds like shite!
The VXMic is a cool idea, but it seems that the in built audio converters or whatever in your camera still add something that takes away from that VX quality we're looking for. Some people got it sounding pretty good! But there are wayyyy too many people who bought that and have no fucking idea how to use it. Also, it's £300! I bought a fully functioning VX1000e with accessories for £320! One day someone will make a plug in for Premiere Pro or something where it adjusts the sound with EQ and whatever to match it pretty close, and it probably wouldn't be that hard to make a plugin like that, but till then I'm open minded to see what people come up with![close]
I don't film anymore but you kinda put into words what I've always kinda felt about vx audio. Its really not that good of a mic but for whatever reason just sounds so right for skate audio. Messing around with manual audio levels, and maybe even making a custom EQ preset could definitely go a long way though nothing will get you all the way there except the real deal.
Expand Quotethe new stussy clip is apparently ment to be 4:3. so look out for that ;)[close]
as promised!
Obviously filmed 4:3 in HD, and the footage is really grainy which is sick, but sort of a waste as it's uploaded at an SD resolution and an SD bitrate -- sorta digitally washed out cause of that. Bummer to have such a nice piece of work chopped up by web encoding. Would be sick to see a proper encode of this.
https://vimeo.com/393586316
A little promo for a video I'm making that's packed with different formats, but super laid back content. Park footage, street footage, lots of camping footage. Just anything I can film in 2020 and put together into a project..
Shot with a GH5/Canon XA35/Arriflex 16S, and a Canon 814 Super 8 cam. Such a blast messing with all these!
https://youtu.be/8awy_d4TI7E
Expand QuoteA little promo for a video I'm making that's packed with different formats, but super laid back content. Park footage, street footage, lots of camping footage. Just anything I can film in 2020 and put together into a project..
Shot with a GH5/Canon XA35/Arriflex 16S, and a Canon 814 Super 8 cam. Such a blast messing with all these!
https://youtu.be/8awy_d4TI7E[close]
Holy fuck that was good vibes man! made me really happy. I subbed but please post when the full video is out!
My all-time favorite HD 4:3 part. Miguel Valle kicks ass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOzr-XUKKWQ
Tried out Romain Bataards trick with the Sony NX80 - MK1 combo, nothing too serious though but lil trip to Berlin testing out the setup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuI4zBdy_Fw&t=390s&ab_channel=KaraokeSkateboarding
glad somebody used my trick.
i also filmed this tour with it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvS334HpJ4c
ax700/mk1/vxmic
those little sony cameras are way better than a p2.
if century goes back to making fisheyes, they should make a version of the xtreme with a tiny diameter. it would cost less, would be way more practical than the actual xtreme, and would give us access to more modern cameras
Just put together a few 4:3 HD fisheye clips I had on my computer if anybody is curious.
4:3 HD Fisheye. Olympus E-M5 ii Lensbaby 5.8mm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLd9z2ysKXc&feature=youtu.be#)
For any filmers that may be trying to create this look without shelling out on a full frame camera or an expensive adapter and the Canon 8-15mm fisheye, any micro 4/3 camera that shoots video with a 2x crop factor (pana g7, gh3, gh4 etc) and the Lensbaby 5.8mm fisheye is a relatively affordable combo that is perfect for this look. The vig is a bit soft so you'll need to apply an overlay but that's not a big deal. Edges have a bit more fringing than the $1000 Canon fisheye but for the price it can't be beat. Definitely the cheapest way to recreate the HD VX look that I'm aware of.
Expand Quoteglad somebody used my trick.
i also filmed this tour with it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvS334HpJ4c
ax700/mk1/vxmic
those little sony cameras are way better than a p2.
if century goes back to making fisheyes, they should make a version of the xtreme with a tiny diameter. it would cost less, would be way more practical than the actual xtreme, and would give us access to more modern cameras[close]
this looks so sick. was the vig put in post production? i'm assuming it's a mk1 screw? if so, did you start off with a bayo mk1, take off the bayo, and put step down rings to get to 62mm?
The vig is real from the mk1. It's a bayo MK1.
Somebody put the tutorial I made about this setup in this section I believe but here it is again:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDgHiNql2LV/
I will make the handle higher so that the vxmic goes on top of the camera, and under my hand. I can then film closer without having the mic in the way.
I'm tired of dealing with tapes for my vx, and I'm not making edits that much anymore. So what's the best cheap as hell setup for this? I just want something that looks better than a phone, can do 1080p 30fps, with decent zoom, and a zoom tilt rocker thing like my vx has so long lens shots look smoother. 60fps option would be a plus for better slo mo, but if it doesn't have that option it's fine because because ill primarily use 30. I would prefer to use SD cards because of their ease and availability. I would also prefer removable batteries instead of a built in one but it's not a deal breaker. Again, not looking for anything fancy, just the cheapest thing that meets what I'm looking for.
I could probably swing a couple grand. But I'd really rather not. I'm not filming too much lately so it's not really a priority. I just want something that looks better than a phone and is easier to zoom with whenever I do want to film something. I'm not looking for the most bang for my buck as much as I'm looking for the minimum I need to spend to get what I want.
Expand QuoteI could probably swing a couple grand. But I'd really rather not. I'm not filming too much lately so it's not really a priority. I just want something that looks better than a phone and is easier to zoom with whenever I do want to film something. I'm not looking for the most bang for my buck as much as I'm looking for the minimum I need to spend to get what I want.[close]
My recommendation stands. XA10 will do 1080/30, XA20 will do 1080/60(59.94) and a bunch of other frame rates, 24p included. Can do slow and fast motion in-camera too but without audio.
Also if you don’t care about the top handle, I think the HF G10 and HF G30 are the equivalents and would be cheaper. Any of those used you could prob find for $500-1000 i think.
That’s all I’ve used for awhile so don’t really know any other brands. But I think you’d definitely want an actual video camera as opposed to a DSLR for the things you described wanting.
New April video is in das 4:3. Nice one Kevin Perez
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuXqrq7aMO4
Ideally you'd just edit them on a computer in Premiere or Final Cut or whatever you like, and either use a 4:3 timeline or 4:3 export settings. If it's full 1080 HD the 4:3 timeline/export size is 1440x1080, and if it's 720 HD the size is 960x720.
In InShot, you can import the clips, then press the Canvas icon, and make it 4:3 in the Ratio tab. Then switch over to the zoom tab and slide it up (I think it'll be 50 here no matter what). Then just export there. You'll probably lose a little quality this way, but it wouldn't be too noticeable especially if it's for Instagram or something.
https://youtu.be/sIkMRmqho-I
hmc150 opteka mk2
but that mk1 made me nut
tested out this Meike 3.5mm fisheye on GH4 yesterday:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHwuZ97FBWW/
Made this yesterday to celebrate my friend Gabe's 40th birthday. Bit of a rush job, but it's HD 4:3 nonetheless. Canon XA20, Century Mk 1, shitty onboard mic because my mic died.looks sick
https://youtu.be/Q9Os66G126Y
Expand Quotetested out this Meike 3.5mm fisheye on GH4 yesterday:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHwuZ97FBWW/[close]
this looks sick!
did you film in anamorphic mode or normal and then just cropped it? also, is that the "natural" vig or an overlay? looks good anyway
Chefs Kiss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jIZuXup-B0
Expand QuoteChefs Kiss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jIZuXup-B0[close]
Beat me to it. So damn good. I wish I knew Miguel Valle's set up, he's perfected the HD 4:3 imo.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteChefs Kiss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jIZuXup-B0[close]
Beat me to it. So damn good. I wish I knew Miguel Valle's set up, he's perfected the HD 4:3 imo.[close]
Sony FS5 with the Canon 8-15mm Fisheye. Films 16:9 and uses the 4:3 crop markers.
currently experimenting with the sony NX80 and the mk1, looks super good and about the same form factor as the vx, which is also a big plus:)
Expand Quotecurrently experimenting with the sony NX80 and the mk1, looks super good and about the same form factor as the vx, which is also a big plus:)[close]
congrats on karaoke round two! any more thoughts on the nx80+mkI setup? fully satisfied with it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCWYEV-YmHA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCWYEV-YmHA)
Made this yesterday to celebrate my friend Gabe's 40th birthday. Bit of a rush job, but it's HD 4:3 nonetheless. Canon XA20, Century Mk 1, shitty onboard mic because my mic died.
https://youtu.be/Q9Os66G126Y
I am starting to learn a bit about editing, please kook me when my questions are dumb.
The clips I have are all 16:9, with 1920x1080p and 50fps.
What settings (pixel and fps) should I use to create a smooth clip in 4:3?
I edit on my phone since I don't have a computer now.
Made this yesterday to celebrate my friend Gabe's 40th birthday. Bit of a rush job, but it's HD 4:3 nonetheless. Canon XA20, Century Mk 1, shitty onboard mic because my mic died.
https://youtu.be/Q9Os66G126Y
Expand QuoteMade this yesterday to celebrate my friend Gabe's 40th birthday. Bit of a rush job, but it's HD 4:3 nonetheless. Canon XA20, Century Mk 1, shitty onboard mic because my mic died.
https://youtu.be/Q9Os66G126Y[close]
firstly that ramp/park setup looks fuckin rad
secondly your homie is fuckin ripping
thirdly that was filmed/edited real well
Expand Quotecurrently experimenting with the sony NX80 and the mk1, looks super good and about the same form factor as the vx, which is also a big plus:)[close]
congrats on karaoke round two! any more thoughts on the nx80+mkI setup? fully satisfied with it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCWYEV-YmHA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCWYEV-YmHA)
www.instagram.com/p/CKLHmf8gCqD/?igshid=1ayeqyshg6s0a
Not sure how to link an Instagram video but this is a canon xa11/Mk1 mounted with the vx1000 bayo ring
Expand QuoteExpand Quotecurrently experimenting with the sony NX80 and the mk1, looks super good and about the same form factor as the vx, which is also a big plus:)[close]
congrats on karaoke round two! any more thoughts on the nx80+mkI setup? fully satisfied with it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCWYEV-YmHA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCWYEV-YmHA)[close]
I really liked it, the camera is more menu-based than the vx and also a litte bit lighter and more out of balance with the fisheye mounted but over all it really feels alot like a vx, files are huge though compared with sd footage.
Anyone bother to try this vx1000 external mic?
https://woodencamera.com/products/vx-skateboard-camera-mic
I'd rather hear first hand experience from someone here than rely on the ads from the company.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dyyx4KN11_g
Here's a side by side comparison I made with one. I personally think it's the best option for external mics, but lots of people like to shit on it.
https://youtu.be/sIkMRmqho-I
hmc150 opteka mk2
but that mk1 made me nut
I guess it worked haha
Expand Quotehttps://youtu.be/sIkMRmqho-I
hmc150 opteka mk2
but that mk1 made me nut[close]
how do you make hmc150 film 4x3? when I put mine into the timeline and crop I can't get my fisheye to look like that. it must be filmed in 4x3 no?
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hmc150 opteka mk2
but that mk1 made me nut[close]
how do you make hmc150 film 4x3? when I put mine into the timeline and crop I can't get my fisheye to look like that. it must be filmed in 4x3 no?[close]
Also curious. Footage looks sick enjoyed the couple of mins I watched.
Expand QuoteI guess it worked haha[close]
What mic are you using here?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI guess it worked haha[close]
Really liking this setup. How did you make the bayo work?
What mic are you using here?[close]
Internal mic. Just picked up a vx mic though and quality is deff crisper
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI guess it worked haha[close]
Really liking this setup. How did you make the bayo work?
What mic are you using here?[close]
Internal mic. Just picked up a vx mic though and quality is deff crisper[close]
weird question for the hivemind.
How do some of these amateur, but nice looking HD 4:3 setups compare in price to a working condition vx1000, lens, accessories, etc?
I think one reason we see so much vx footage is because it's well known, but also because you can pickup a camera for like $700.
I'm beyond ready for us to round the corner where a an HD 4:3 setup looks better and is cheaper. VX footage looks so shit to me these days. I love the ratio but 480p looks like mud and the colors are just so ass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dyyx4KN11_g
Here's a side by side comparison I made with one. I personally think it's the best option for external mics, but lots of people like to shit on it.
Expand QuoteHere's a side by side comparison I made with one. I personally think it's the best option for external mics, but lots of people like to shit on it.[close]
is that the "natural" vig on the gh5???
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHere's a side by side comparison I made with one. I personally think it's the best option for external mics, but lots of people like to shit on it.[close]
is that the "natural" vig on the gh5???[close]
Kind of, it's not an overlay or anything, I just desaturated the blue hues around the vignetting to get rid of the chromatic aberration that comes with that lens.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteHere's a side by side comparison I made with one. I personally think it's the best option for external mics, but lots of people like to shit on it.[close]
is that the "natural" vig on the gh5???[close]
Kind of, it's not an overlay or anything, I just desaturated the blue hues around the vignetting to get rid of the chromatic aberration that comes with that lens.[close]
it looks really good. i guess the gh5 doesn't have a crop factor in anamorphic mode like the gh4 does right?
what a fucking great idea - has anyone of you guys tried it yet?Expand Quotesomebody said they'd look into this in another threadExpand QuoteOne day someone will make a plug in for Premiere Pro or something where it adjusts the sound with EQ and whatever to match it pretty close, and it probably wouldn't be that hard to make a plugin like that, but till then I'm open minded to see what people come up with![close]Expand QuoteIt sounds like the VX boosts mid frequencies, whereas the GH5 is pretty flat. I'd almost guarantee that the VX boosts frequencies that Sony decided were in the 'voice' spectrum.
If you wanna send me the audio files of each I reckon I could figure out exactly what's going on. And I'd be willing to bet that a plugin could mimic the VX really, really well. Audio plugins have come a long way; they can mimic the sound of various machines and rooms at Abbey Road, so I'm sure we could crack the secret of why a VX sounds so good.[close][close]
That seems about right. All they'd need to do is make it an effectt/preset you can just download and throw onto all your audio and I think people would be happy. Could even make a VX preset, it changes the aspect ratio to 4:3, changes the audio, and adds some kinda colour grade to the image.
what a fucking great idea - has anyone of you guys tried it yet?Expand QuoteExpand Quotesomebody said they'd look into this in another threadExpand QuoteOne day someone will make a plug in for Premiere Pro or something where it adjusts the sound with EQ and whatever to match it pretty close, and it probably wouldn't be that hard to make a plugin like that, but till then I'm open minded to see what people come up with![close]Expand QuoteIt sounds like the VX boosts mid frequencies, whereas the GH5 is pretty flat. I'd almost guarantee that the VX boosts frequencies that Sony decided were in the 'voice' spectrum.
If you wanna send me the audio files of each I reckon I could figure out exactly what's going on. And I'd be willing to bet that a plugin could mimic the VX really, really well. Audio plugins have come a long way; they can mimic the sound of various machines and rooms at Abbey Road, so I'm sure we could crack the secret of why a VX sounds so good.[close][close]
That seems about right. All they'd need to do is make it an effectt/preset you can just download and throw onto all your audio and I think people would be happy. Could even make a VX preset, it changes the aspect ratio to 4:3, changes the audio, and adds some kinda colour grade to the image.[close]
I dont have a lot of money to spend on a fisheye so I am thinking about getting a DSLR set up. I am just wondering how filming long lens is working on a DSLR? Is it possible to use the zoom while filming on a standart lens or would I need to get something special?long lens is possible, but modern-day skate video/strobeck style zooming will look like shit on dslr with a standard lens, as you'll have to deal with focusing as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_Zh5fRMovY&feature=emb_title
Expand Quotehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_Zh5fRMovY&feature=emb_title[close]
seriously great clip, and makes me want to go to Vienna real bad, but this is VX right?
I'm contemplating getting the Canon XA11. Does anyone have any advice on modding an MK1 or 2 for it? Saw that dude who filmed the Homies 2 video used that cam and it looks really tight.
this is so good !Expand QuoteI'm contemplating getting the Canon XA11. Does anyone have any advice on modding an MK1 or 2 for it? Saw that dude who filmed the Homies 2 video used that cam and it looks really tight.[close]
Vx1000 bayo ring fits the xa11 :)
Currently my setup
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hmc150 opteka mk2
but that mk1 made me nut[close]
how do you make hmc150 film 4x3? when I put mine into the timeline and crop I can't get my fisheye to look like that. it must be filmed in 4x3 no?[close]
Also curious. Footage looks sick enjoyed the couple of mins I watched.[close]
he spaced out the fisheye with spacer rings/cheap filters with the glass knocked out and then made a 960x720 timeline in post. theres a 4:3 cropline you can turn on in the camera too for previewing what its going to see too.
vx1000 and few trv900 clips. no tapeless setup just upscaling to 1080pExpand QuoteExpand Quotehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_Zh5fRMovY&feature=emb_title[close]
seriously great clip, and makes me want to go to Vienna real bad, but this is VX right?[close]
I think you're right. showed up in my yt recommended and I just saw 4:3 HD... but I can't tell if its just a really good capture upscaled or maybe one those tapeless setups or something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_L5PATIENM
I'm new to this forum, but one of my videos of the meike 3.5 GH4 combo has already been shared here!
I've been trying to figure this out for a while. Use a GH4 and have tried the LAOWA 4mm. The quality and the wideness was good but I did not like the glare the fisheye had.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/NeoYc1z_JF8
I recently switched to the meike 3.5 mm and it is a wonderful lens especially for the price but I am starting to notice that I do not particularly love the quality of the edges of the image. I know that this is the least important part of the fisheye, but it seems to be something the MK1 and canon 8 to 15 mm lenses do very well. Tell me, do you see the mark of a booboo fisheye in this Meike 3.5mm GH4 footage? I kinda do, but I would say it's pretty minimal compared to the 6mm especially for the price.
It's like some fisheyes (meike) feel 2d while the Mk1 and 8-15 have a more 3D feeling
Does anyone know about the PELENG or the Tokina fisheyes and how they compare to the Canon. I am also interested in the canon FD fisheye but I'm an FD nerd.
If budget is your main priority, the GH4 Meike 3.5 mm setup is in my opinion by far the lowest cost highest quality footage. However if that Primitive / April Skateboards quality is what you are going for, and not the poor man's version, I think the canon 8-15 is just going to have to be the winner for DSLRS here, I do not believe it's been topped in quality.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/KHw1RM5mBaA
I love how this image looks in many other ways, but another thing I don't love about it is how small is, it is improving my accuracy for sure but I may save up for a used canon 8 to 15 just for the peace of mind. I would love to hear some
I'm new to this forum, but one of my videos of the meike 3.5 GH4 combo has already been shared here!
I've been trying to figure this out for a while. Use a GH4 and have tried the LAOWA 4mm. The quality and the wideness was good but I did not like the glare the fisheye had.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/NeoYc1z_JF8
I recently switched to the meike 3.5 mm and it is a wonderful lens especially for the price but I am starting to notice that I do not particularly love the quality of the edges of the image. I know that this is the least important part of the fisheye, but it seems to be something the MK1 and canon 8 to 15 mm lenses do very well. Tell me, do you see the mark of a booboo fisheye in this Meike 3.5mm GH4 footage? I kinda do, but I would say it's pretty minimal compared to the 6mm especially for the price.
It's like some fisheyes (meike) feel 2d while the Mk1 and 8-15 have a more 3D feeling
Does anyone know about the PELENG or the Tokina fisheyes and how they compare to the Canon. I am also interested in the canon FD fisheye but I'm an FD nerd.
If budget is your main priority, the GH4 Meike 3.5 mm setup is in my opinion by far the lowest cost highest quality footage. However if that Primitive / April Skateboards quality is what you are going for, and not the poor man's version, I think the canon 8-15 is just going to have to be the winner for DSLRS here, I do not believe it's been topped in quality.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/KHw1RM5mBaA
I love how this image looks in many other ways, but another thing I don't love about it is how small is, it is improving my accuracy for sure but I may save up for a used canon 8 to 15 just for the peace of mind. I would love to hear some
Expand QuoteI'm new to this forum, but one of my videos of the meike 3.5 GH4 combo has already been shared here!
I've been trying to figure this out for a while. Use a GH4 and have tried the LAOWA 4mm. The quality and the wideness was good but I did not like the glare the fisheye had.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/NeoYc1z_JF8
I recently switched to the meike 3.5 mm and it is a wonderful lens especially for the price but I am starting to notice that I do not particularly love the quality of the edges of the image. I know that this is the least important part of the fisheye, but it seems to be something the MK1 and canon 8 to 15 mm lenses do very well. Tell me, do you see the mark of a booboo fisheye in this Meike 3.5mm GH4 footage? I kinda do, but I would say it's pretty minimal compared to the 6mm especially for the price.
It's like some fisheyes (meike) feel 2d while the Mk1 and 8-15 have a more 3D feeling
Does anyone know about the PELENG or the Tokina fisheyes and how they compare to the Canon. I am also interested in the canon FD fisheye but I'm an FD nerd.
If budget is your main priority, the GH4 Meike 3.5 mm setup is in my opinion by far the lowest cost highest quality footage. However if that Primitive / April Skateboards quality is what you are going for, and not the poor man's version, I think the canon 8-15 is just going to have to be the winner for DSLRS here, I do not believe it's been topped in quality.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/KHw1RM5mBaA
I love how this image looks in many other ways, but another thing I don't love about it is how small is, it is improving my accuracy for sure but I may save up for a used canon 8 to 15 just for the peace of mind. I would love to hear some[close]
i have the 4mm laowa aswell, dont love it for video because of the grip being in the right hand corner. do you have it cropped in on the censor/or have it filming at 4:3 and it crops on its own? ive shot some 1:1 photos with it and it works for instagram.
http://www.instagram.com/p/B7tgL4phIvF/ (http://www.instagram.com/p/B7tgL4phIvF/)
quick clip with my GH4 + meike 3.5mm combined with some VX-longlens
quick clip with my GH4 + meike 3.5mm combined with some VX-longlensthe combo of the gh4 and meike looks good.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMjsTD9hnwB/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
quick clip with my GH4 + meike 3.5mm combined with some VX-longlens
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMjsTD9hnwB/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
So I received some advice from Beltway and got my Kapkur/Opteka 52mm fisheye to fit on my Panasonic HPX171. Here is an example
Expand QuoteSo I received some advice from Beltway and got my Kapkur/Opteka 52mm fisheye to fit on my Panasonic HPX171. Here is an example[close]
looks crisp!!
So I received some advice from Beltway and got my Kapkur/Opteka 52mm fisheye to fit on my Panasonic HPX171. Here is an example:
https://youtu.be/vXRktJ_otKM (https://youtu.be/vXRktJ_otKM)
I shot at 720p 50p, f1.7 for under the bridge and in direct sun around f4.8. My shutter was I believe 250 or 500. Even wide open the vignette is sharp corner to corner. This setup is ridiculous, I'm used to how heavy the HPX is, but having to get even closer to the skater to fill the frame with a camera heavier than a VX1000 reminds me of my DVX100b and Opteka 72mm setup.
All I did in the edit was create a timeline at 1440x1080 at 50p, scaled up to 150% and it was spot on. No need to scale up anymore, or adjust the vignette at all. I'm very happy with the results and plan on using it on a paid gig I'm working on currently.
Expand QuoteSo I received some advice from Beltway and got my Kapkur/Opteka 52mm fisheye to fit on my Panasonic HPX171. Here is an example:
https://youtu.be/vXRktJ_otKM (https://youtu.be/vXRktJ_otKM)
I shot at 720p 50p, f1.7 for under the bridge and in direct sun around f4.8. My shutter was I believe 250 or 500. Even wide open the vignette is sharp corner to corner. This setup is ridiculous, I'm used to how heavy the HPX is, but having to get even closer to the skater to fill the frame with a camera heavier than a VX1000 reminds me of my DVX100b and Opteka 72mm setup.
All I did in the edit was create a timeline at 1440x1080 at 50p, scaled up to 150% and it was spot on. No need to scale up anymore, or adjust the vignette at all. I'm very happy with the results and plan on using it on a paid gig I'm working on currently.[close]
That looks perfect. Just curious why use the 52mm fisheye versus the 72? I guess this is wider with less step rings and spacers?
Expand Quotequick clip with my GH4 + meike 3.5mm combined with some VX-longlens
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMjsTD9hnwB/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link[close]
looks really good!
what rig are you using?
i have the same set up and problem haha.Expand QuoteExpand Quotequick clip with my GH4 + meike 3.5mm combined with some VX-longlens
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMjsTD9hnwB/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link[close]
looks really good!
what rig are you using?[close]
I used a smallrig cage + handle at first, but was having a hard time getting the microphone out of the shot since the fisheye is so wide + it was a little bit shaky. I was always on the look out for a Eazyhandle v2 and a couple months ago I got one off ebay, and it's so good!
So I received some advice from Beltway and got my Kapkur/Opteka 52mm fisheye to fit on my Panasonic HPX171. Here is an example:
https://youtu.be/vXRktJ_otKM (https://youtu.be/vXRktJ_otKM)
I shot at 720p 50p, f1.7 for under the bridge and in direct sun around f4.8. My shutter was I believe 250 or 500. Even wide open the vignette is sharp corner to corner. This setup is ridiculous, I'm used to how heavy the HPX is, but having to get even closer to the skater to fill the frame with a camera heavier than a VX1000 reminds me of my DVX100b and Opteka 72mm setup.
All I did in the edit was create a timeline at 1440x1080 at 50p, scaled up to 150% and it was spot on. No need to scale up anymore, or adjust the vignette at all. I'm very happy with the results and plan on using it on a paid gig I'm working on currently.
Expand QuoteSo I received some advice from Beltway and got my Kapkur/Opteka 52mm fisheye to fit on my Panasonic HPX171. Here is an example:
https://youtu.be/vXRktJ_otKM (https://youtu.be/vXRktJ_otKM)
I shot at 720p 50p, f1.7 for under the bridge and in direct sun around f4.8. My shutter was I believe 250 or 500. Even wide open the vignette is sharp corner to corner. This setup is ridiculous, I'm used to how heavy the HPX is, but having to get even closer to the skater to fill the frame with a camera heavier than a VX1000 reminds me of my DVX100b and Opteka 72mm setup.
All I did in the edit was create a timeline at 1440x1080 at 50p, scaled up to 150% and it was spot on. No need to scale up anymore, or adjust the vignette at all. I'm very happy with the results and plan on using it on a paid gig I'm working on currently.[close]
Would this work with hvx200/hvx201 ?
So I did a comparison between a HPX171 and a HVX200 in the 4:3 HD configuration
https://youtu.be/XssqyEA3yYE (https://youtu.be/XssqyEA3yYE)
Nothing too scientific but this should give you an idea of how wide it is on both cameras. No need to crop anything at all, just scaled up to 150% in a 1440x1080 timeline
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/729939983196225596/835373842615631872/image0_1.jpg)
Just got in the vx mic today. Ordering a used PZ 18-105mm F4 for those zooms soon, as well as a LCD hood. In lock down right now though, but hopefully it'll be a great summer for skating. Tried putting the mic on the top but I can't put my full hand on the handle and it also makes the heightens the rig by a lot. Handle shoe mount will be for the light.
Sony A7rii
Canon 8-15mm
Sigma MC-11 Adapter
Tilta Cage
Sachtler long tripod plate
Wooden Camera VX Mic
Intellytech Pocket Cannon Mini
https://youtu.be/8IsIWwtoczs
could've used an extra spacer but love that 4:3 baby
hpx170 with a no name mk2. same setup as @suckmadeck but without a spacer ring.Expand Quotewhat's the setup here?[close]
Expand Quotehpx170 with a no name mk2. same setup as @suckmadeck but without a spacer ring.Expand Quotewhat's the setup here?[close][close]
thx!
Expand QuoteExpand Quotequick clip with my GH4 + meike 3.5mm combined with some VX-longlens
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMjsTD9hnwB/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link[close]
looks really good!
what rig are you using?[close]
I used a smallrig cage + handle at first, but was having a hard time getting the microphone out of the shot since the fisheye is so wide + it was a little bit shaky. I was always on the look out for a Eazyhandle v2 and a couple months ago I got one off ebay, and it's so good!
quick clip with my GH4 + meike 3.5mm combined with some VX-longlensthis set up is definitely gonna be my next choice when i have the money to get new gear. this thing is so crispy and the vx longlens works smoothly with the fisheye footage. love it
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMjsTD9hnwB/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Expand Quotehpx170 with a no name mk2. same setup as @suckmadeck but without a spacer ring.Expand Quotewhat's the setup here?[close][close]
bingo
My new video for POP is out on Thrasher :D with the GH4 + Meike 3.5mm
https://youtu.be/NV0xDprLUBo
Expand QuoteMy new video for POP is out on Thrasher :D with the GH4 + Meike 3.5mm[close]
i was just about to congratulate you on this haha
the edit is really nice, loved the whole vibe and filming
One shotgun mic for those who film on DSLRs that I thought recreated vx audio fairly well is the Sony MS907/MS908c. It's pretty cheap but hard to find, definitely wouldn't wanna use it for anything besides skating.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDlqLY740Ts (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDlqLY740Ts) I believe miguel valle used it in this clip, the music is kinda loud so you can't hear it that well, still a little more bassy than vx1000 audio but definitely closer to the vx effect than anything else I've heard in recent times.
Sorry for going off track.
Jumping on the Panasonic 4:3 train with a Hmc150 and opteka. What’s everyone shooting at in terms of frame rate and shutter speed? 1080 30p at 1/125th looked a little mushy. I’m not a big fan of 60p video but maybe it’s better to film at 72060p and export at 30p? Or 108060i?majority of people film at 720/60
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/804103248420012034/848778043466973215/image0.png)does anyone have test footage for this setup? ive been scouring youtube for footage from a hpx170/mk1 but can never find any
saw this on pertharms insta the other day
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHvXIYSlB9a/wow that looks actually fantastic! i wonder how the 16:9 looks, though.
this is the only footage ive ever seen from it. just this post
does anyone have test footage for this setup? ive been scouring youtube for footage from a hpx170/mk1 but can never find any
Expand QuoteOne shotgun mic for those who film on DSLRs that I thought recreated vx audio fairly well is the Sony MS907/MS908c. It's pretty cheap but hard to find, definitely wouldn't wanna use it for anything besides skating.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDlqLY740Ts (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDlqLY740Ts) I believe miguel valle used it in this clip, the music is kinda loud so you can't hear it that well, still a little more bassy than vx1000 audio but definitely closer to the vx effect than anything else I've heard in recent times.
Sorry for going off track.[close]
i was just rereading page one and this seems like a really interesting post. These Sony MS907/MS908c Mics appear to be from a similar time period as when the VX was manufactured. Is there a chance they have similar specs and internals to the actual VX microphone? Has anyone tested this further or done a comparison?
Expand QuoteExpand Quotewhat's the setup here?[close]
hpx170 with a no name mk2. same setup as @suckmadeck but without a spacer ring.[close]
So I've posted before some test footage of my 4x3 HD setup, well the video I was hired to make is coming out at the end of this month so I thought I'd share the trailer with you all.
https://youtu.be/m_rFpR-obnw (https://youtu.be/m_rFpR-obnw)
Shot on a HPX171, with an Opteka/Kapkur 52mm with a 72mm spacer ring, and a 72mm - 52mm step down ring. For this trailer I even experimented with exporting some footage out as an SD .avi file to see if I can make the whole low-res VX1000/DVX100 feel translate to HD HPX footage.
Expand Quotei was just rereading page one and this seems like a really interesting post. These Sony MS907/MS908c Mics appear to be from a similar time period as when the VX was manufactured. Is there a chance they have similar specs and internals to the actual VX microphone? Has anyone tested this further or done a comparison?[close]
just saw a bunch of them on ebay here in germany for like 30€, might cop one
Super late to the party, but here's my ax700/mk1. Thanks for the help yall! No zooming in post this is pretty much straight to the time line. I've considered distorting the corners a bit to minimize the vig, but not mad at this at all.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CPkJemXFe7b/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
I have no idea how to post ig stuff.
Expand QuoteSuper late to the party, but here's my ax700/mk1. Thanks for the help yall! No zooming in post this is pretty much straight to the time line. I've considered distorting the corners a bit to minimize the vig, but not mad at this at all.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CPkJemXFe7b/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
I have no idea how to post ig stuff.[close]
This is the AX700 with a Mk1.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CP2vtXIhm9N/
First trick is zoomed all the way out, so in edit its the heaviest crop. The second and the last fish trick are zoomed to roughly where I thought 4:3 was, so minimal crop.
You get better final resolution with the second method, but the edges end up pretty soft.
Lower res/more crop on that first frontboard trick...but looks way cleaner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvbPb07dQUg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvbPb07dQUg)
gh3 + meike 3.5, sony ms 907
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvbPb07dQUg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvbPb07dQUg)
gh3 + meike 3.5, sony ms 907
@sk8rat just put out this tutorial of how he got a MK1 on the HPX170, most notably shaving a few mm off a spacer ring and gluing it to the bayo ring :o
It is seriously shocking how similiar the 480p footage looks to the VX. I think i said it before earlier in the thread, but so much of what I thought was the "VX look" was definitely the character of the MK1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGtPtL0-Mpo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-0S4p2ELG8
This is spots of Saint Petersburg city, RussiaExpand Quotehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvbPb07dQUg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvbPb07dQUg)
gh3 + meike 3.5, sony ms 907[close]
footage looks great and the ms 907 doesn't sound too bad.
where are those spots? they look really nice
I have been trying to figure out a way to use my HMC150 to film 4:3 fisheye. I have modded an old vx bayo so that the MK1 will attach. Here is a comparison of the vig and fisheye range. They are pretty close. I will post again once I film some skating with this. Note that the HMC clip was filmed at 0 zoom, but I had to crop in 123% in post to get the vig to match.
https://vimeo.com/577837434
Testing out this new light, the Fotodiox Radius Mini. It gets rid of the spotlight effect that happens with my old LED panel, the Yongnuo YN300. Weighs 1.8 lbs where the YN300 weighs 1.2 lbs, both with NPF750 batteries. I think that it is one of the better options out there. It is heavy duty and puts out soft, even light throughout the whole frame. It really does put out 180 degrees of light too. You can turn the light backwards and still have light on the edges of the frame. It also makes filming at night easier for the skater when the on camera light is the main source. Only cons that I can think of is the price and it may be heavy depending on your set up.
I have not tested it with 16:9 but I can if someone would like to see that. I know that this is a 4:3 thread haha.
Both lights at full power. Radius Mini has a built in diffuser and my YN300 has no diffusion. Radius Mini was set at 5600K, camera on auto white balance. Shot at 1/80 F4 @ 1600 ISO.
(https://i.ibb.co/JptRHpv/IMG-2672.jpg) (https://ibb.co/JptRHpv)(https://i.ibb.co/t30QTct/IMG-2671.jpg) (https://ibb.co/t30QTct)
(https://i.ibb.co/W5H8pC0/C0024-00-01-47-10-Still002.jpg) (https://ibb.co/g9rqFYd)
(https://i.ibb.co/5G82vsZ/C0024-00-00-24-22-Still001.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pbznZ4q)
Not sure what settings I used here but I can probably push the ISO a lot more.
https://youtu.be/kgx3vOrHG5Q
Testing out this new light, the Fotodiox Radius Mini.hell yeah, could def push it up a lil. get it as bright as possible without blowing out any highlights. also you could def make ur 8-15 a little wider too. good shit tho. and get out of the park!
hell yeah, could def push it up a lil. get it as bright as possible without blowing out any highlights. also you could def make ur 8-15 a little wider too. good shit tho. and get out of the park!Expand QuoteTesting out this new light, the Fotodiox Radius Mini.[close]
The MK1 bayo mounted onto the HMC150, cropped to 4:3, scaled to 120%. Hoping to swap out the HMC for a HPX to shoot natively in 4:3.that looks wonderful! had no problem focusing? flatter, warmer profile and a vx mic would complete it nicely
https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/615252094
that looks wonderful! had no problem focusing? flatter, warmer profile and a vx mic would complete it nicelyExpand QuoteThe MK1 bayo mounted onto the HMC150, cropped to 4:3, scaled to 120%. Hoping to swap out the HMC for a HPX to shoot natively in 4:3.
https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/615252094[close]
So I put this little tutorial together just to demonstrate how to shoot in 4:3 HD on the Panasonic HD cameras. Doesn't cost much at all, you don't need a mad amount of spacers or even a really expensive lens. This is a nice and easy way to get into it. Shalom
https://youtu.be/zf6VW3vOMZ4 (https://youtu.be/zf6VW3vOMZ4)
Some example footage from a project I've been working on where the entire video will be shot in 4:3 HD:
https://youtu.be/vXRktJ_otKM (https://youtu.be/vXRktJ_otKM)
Expand QuoteWhuddup pals. Forgive my ignorance on this subject, but I've looked around to no avail and am hoping y'all might be able to help.
I haven't been too up on camera knowledge since learning about the VX1000 and DVX100 in the skate perception days. I rocked the VX until a filmer slam took it and my MK1 out of commission. After that, I was able to find a lens for my DVX100A (Century Pro DV Ultra Fisheye Adaper .3x) and have been content with that since.
Well, with the current state of Mini DV tapes, I need a solution. I'm intrigued by HD 4:3 but am not picky, as I need an affordable option (1 income household right now while my wife finishes up school). So my question is, does anyone know, if I were able to come up on an HVX, is there any way to mod my current fisheye to be used with it?
I think I could swing the price of one... It's just those extreme lenses or whatever that are outrageously expensive. Plus like I said, I like the idea of HD 4:3. Again, I'm not too picky though.
Thanks in advance for any advice y'all may have![close]
You should be able to remove the bayo ring from your century fisheye, then get a 72mm - 82mm adapter, then a 82mm to 72mm adapter, and screw it directly onto a HVX/HMC/HPX. Just need to crop to 4:3 in post. If you want more vig you could also add a 72mm spacer.
I just copped a Panasonic HDC-TM700, wanted something basic to shoot the homies with in 1080p60 that wasn't the phone.
It has a 46mm thread I believe. If I wanted to fuck around with trying to get some 4:3 fisheye clips, what Opteka/Kapkur should I cop?
I was thinking the 37mm one, with a 46->37mm step down ring. I figured stepping down to the smallest one would produce the most vig and get me closer to a 4:3 ratio with the least number of spacers, compared to grabbing the 43mm or even stepping up to a 58mm.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/673936-REG/Opteka_OPTSC37FE_37mm_0_3X_HD_Ultra.html
Obviously i don't expect anyone to have this exact setup, but is my line of thinking right?
I just copped a Panasonic HDC-TM700, wanted something basic to shoot the homies with in 1080p60 that wasn't the phone.
It has a 46mm thread I believe. If I wanted to fuck around with trying to get some 4:3 fisheye clips, what Opteka/Kapkur should I cop?
I was thinking the 37mm one, with a 46->37mm step down ring. I figured stepping down to the smallest one would produce the most vig and get me closer to a 4:3 ratio with the least number of spacers, compared to grabbing the 43mm or even stepping up to a 58mm.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/673936-REG/Opteka_OPTSC37FE_37mm_0_3X_HD_Ultra.html
Obviously i don't expect anyone to have this exact setup, but is my line of thinking right?
Expand QuoteI just copped a Panasonic HDC-TM700, wanted something basic to shoot the homies with in 1080p60 that wasn't the phone.
It has a 46mm thread I believe. If I wanted to fuck around with trying to get some 4:3 fisheye clips, what Opteka/Kapkur should I cop?
I was thinking the 37mm one, with a 46->37mm step down ring. I figured stepping down to the smallest one would produce the most vig and get me closer to a 4:3 ratio with the least number of spacers, compared to grabbing the 43mm or even stepping up to a 58mm.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/673936-REG/Opteka_OPTSC37FE_37mm_0_3X_HD_Ultra.html
Obviously i don't expect anyone to have this exact setup, but is my line of thinking right?[close]
https://youtu.be/xw8IXbrLx_8
pretty certain this vid is with the 37mm aka the baby death
So I'd say step down to 26mm if that's even possible? If it isn't I'd say the lower the number the better
Thanks for the replies @bataaard @suckmadeck @Jordan WiensExpand QuoteSo I'd say step down to 26mm if that's even possible? If it isn't I'd say the lower the number the better[close]
Couldn't find any decent looking fish smaller than 37, so definitely gonna grab the Opteka 37mm. just unsure of how many spacers it'll take. I'll be experimenting and will report back.
**experimenting later, cause the TM-700 just showed up with a bunch of scratches on the lens -_- buying stuff online is such a pain in the ass lmao
Any screenshots or side-by-sides with the Opteka?
Been lurking here for quite awhile, basically set up a Slap account solely because of this thread haha.I don't mean to sidestep the conversation, but how much did Schneider charge to replace your front element?
So anyway, just set up an MK1 for my HPX but the quality difference is realllly noticeable compared to my Opteka (filming 720/60p). Everything is just way blurrier and grainier through the MK1. As far as I can tell I duplicated the Shane Aukland setup to a T, and the lens just got new front glass installed by Schneider themselves, so I can't imagine that's the culprit. Any advice?
Been lurking here for quite awhile, basically set up a Slap account solely because of this thread haha.could be the thickness of the stepup/filter youre using. distance from lens to lens is really crucial for focus on the mk1
So anyway, just set up an MK1 for my HPX but the quality difference is realllly noticeable compared to my Opteka (filming 720/60p). Everything is just way blurrier and grainier through the MK1. As far as I can tell I duplicated the Shane Aukland setup to a T, and the lens just got new front glass installed by Schneider themselves, so I can't imagine that's the culprit. Any advice?
Been lurking here for quite awhile, basically set up a Slap account solely because of this thread haha.i believe he mentioned that this setup only really works nicely on the HMC line of cameras
So anyway, just set up an MK1 for my HPX but the quality difference is realllly noticeable compared to my Opteka (filming 720/60p). Everything is just way blurrier and grainier through the MK1. As far as I can tell I duplicated the Shane Aukland setup to a T, and the lens just got new front glass installed by Schneider themselves, so I can't imagine that's the culprit. Any advice?
I don't mean to sidestep the conversation, but how much did Schneider charge to replace your front element?Expand QuoteBeen lurking here for quite awhile, basically set up a Slap account solely because of this thread haha.
So anyway, just set up an MK1 for my HPX but the quality difference is realllly noticeable compared to my Opteka (filming 720/60p). Everything is just way blurrier and grainier through the MK1. As far as I can tell I duplicated the Shane Aukland setup to a T, and the lens just got new front glass installed by Schneider themselves, so I can't imagine that's the culprit. Any advice?[close]
I don't mean to sidestep the conversation, but how much did Schneider charge to replace your front element?
could be the thickness of the stepup/filter youre using. distance from lens to lens is really crucial for focus on the mk1
it seems like your aperture is more open on the crailslide clip than on the other ones, then you need to be really precise with your focusing. try not to go under f5.6 with your fisheye.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMtqEBgOsiU
"Banquet" by Beltway (Eddie Gutierrez). HMC150 and a 58mm Opteka. I prefer the HPX over the HMC, but I really like the way this setup looks.
you also know on what camera?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI just copped a Panasonic HDC-TM700, wanted something basic to shoot the homies with in 1080p60 that wasn't the phone.
It has a 46mm thread I believe. If I wanted to fuck around with trying to get some 4:3 fisheye clips, what Opteka/Kapkur should I cop?
I was thinking the 37mm one, with a 46->37mm step down ring. I figured stepping down to the smallest one would produce the most vig and get me closer to a 4:3 ratio with the least number of spacers, compared to grabbing the 43mm or even stepping up to a 58mm.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/673936-REG/Opteka_OPTSC37FE_37mm_0_3X_HD_Ultra.html
Obviously i don't expect anyone to have this exact setup, but is my line of thinking right?[close]
https://youtu.be/xw8IXbrLx_8
pretty certain this vid is with the 37mm aka the baby death[close]
it's the opteka 37mm
sony ax100you also know on what camera?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI just copped a Panasonic HDC-TM700, wanted something basic to shoot the homies with in 1080p60 that wasn't the phone.
It has a 46mm thread I believe. If I wanted to fuck around with trying to get some 4:3 fisheye clips, what Opteka/Kapkur should I cop?
I was thinking the 37mm one, with a 46->37mm step down ring. I figured stepping down to the smallest one would produce the most vig and get me closer to a 4:3 ratio with the least number of spacers, compared to grabbing the 43mm or even stepping up to a 58mm.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/673936-REG/Opteka_OPTSC37FE_37mm_0_3X_HD_Ultra.html
Obviously i don't expect anyone to have this exact setup, but is my line of thinking right?[close]
https://youtu.be/xw8IXbrLx_8
pretty certain this vid is with the 37mm aka the baby death[close]
it's the opteka 37mm[close]
i think this was brought up but can't quite find it,
what's the go to way to mount a mk1 and hmc150? step up/down rings? if yes what size?
thank you
Expand Quotei think this was brought up but can't quite find it,
what's the go to way to mount a mk1 and hmc150? step up/down rings? if yes what size?
thank you[close]
The sk8 rat solution was to grind down a 72mm spacer to half length and jb weld to the bayo. I did mine a bit differently. I bought an 82-72 step down and jb welded the bayo inside of the step down ring. Cheers!
Expand QuoteExpand Quotei think this was brought up but can't quite find it,
what's the go to way to mount a mk1 and hmc150? step up/down rings? if yes what size?
thank you[close]
The sk8 rat solution was to grind down a 72mm spacer to half length and jb weld to the bayo. I did mine a bit differently. I bought an 82-72 step down and jb welded the bayo inside of the step down ring. Cheers![close]
would this damage your mk1? as i still intend on setting it on the vx1 as well.
thank you
Guys what about hpx and mk2?opteka lens is basically 1:1 replica of the mk2 but with different coatings (different flares). spaced out and cropped to 4:3 its lovely
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSiHzaEfSmY
I filmed this with a GH5 and a Meike 6.5 for fisheye shots and Hvx200 for long lens shots.
Tom Penny is amazing.
Expand Quotewww.youtube.com/watch?v=uSiHzaEfSmY
I filmed this with a GH5 and a Meike 6.5 for fisheye shots and Hvx200 for long lens shots.
Tom Penny is amazing.[close]
Is this shot in anamorphic mode? Wondering how you got that amount of vig using the meike 6.5
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZFrDhjJiN8/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
https://youtu.be/qqmE03TwQCU
Shot on HPX170 + Opteka 58mm fisheye with 1 spacer. Tried to make the vig VX1/MK1-esque
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lPR-ep_ATM
GH5 4K/60p Anamorphic 4:3, Lecia 10-25mm and Rokinon 7.5mm Fisheye, RØDE VideoMicro
Uploaded to YouTube in ProRes HQ
A little promo for a video I'm making that's packed with different formats, but super laid back content. Park footage, street footage, lots of camping footage. Just anything I can film in 2020 and put together into a project..
Shot with a GH5/Canon XA35/Arriflex 16S, and a Canon 814 Super 8 cam. Such a blast messing with all these!
https://youtu.be/8awy_d4TI7E
Expand QuoteExpand Quotei think this was brought up but can't quite find it,
what's the go to way to mount a mk1 and hmc150? step up/down rings? if yes what size?
thank you[close]
The sk8 rat solution was to grind down a 72mm spacer to half length and jb weld to the bayo. I did mine a bit differently. I bought an 82-72 step down and jb welded the bayo inside of the step down ring. Cheers![close]
would this damage your mk1? as i still intend on setting it on the vx1 as well.
thank you
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotei think this was brought up but can't quite find it,
what's the go to way to mount a mk1 and hmc150? step up/down rings? if yes what size?
thank you[close]
The sk8 rat solution was to grind down a 72mm spacer to half length and jb weld to the bayo. I did mine a bit differently. I bought an 82-72 step down and jb welded the bayo inside of the step down ring. Cheers![close]
would this damage your mk1? as i still intend on setting it on the vx1 as well.
thank you[close]
non destructive option:
https://sk8mmllc.myshopify.com/products/universal-mk1-fisheye-adapter
i didn't test it but it seems good
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotei think this was brought up but can't quite find it,
what's the go to way to mount a mk1 and hmc150? step up/down rings? if yes what size?
thank you[close]
The sk8 rat solution was to grind down a 72mm spacer to half length and jb weld to the bayo. I did mine a bit differently. I bought an 82-72 step down and jb welded the bayo inside of the step down ring. Cheers![close]
would this damage your mk1? as i still intend on setting it on the vx1 as well.
thank you[close]
non destructive option:
https://sk8mmllc.myshopify.com/products/universal-mk1-fisheye-adapter
i didn't test it but it seems good[close]
neither did the creator either apparently. seems kinda sus. only render images and no test footage. especially when the distance from fisheye to camera is so specific for it to be able to focus on some cameras.
Thanks for the replies @bataaard @suckmadeck @Jordan WiensExpand QuoteSo I'd say step down to 26mm if that's even possible? If it isn't I'd say the lower the number the better[close]
Couldn't find any decent looking fish smaller than 37, so definitely gonna grab the Opteka 37mm. just unsure of how many spacers it'll take. I'll be experimenting and will report back.
**experimenting later, cause the TM-700 just showed up with a bunch of scratches on the lens -_- buying stuff online is such a pain in the ass lmao
I‘m curious as to how you mounted the ms907 to the camera, would like to know as i‘m also thinking about getting it for my ax700.
Expand QuoteThanks for the replies @bataaard @suckmadeck @Jordan WiensExpand QuoteSo I'd say step down to 26mm if that's even possible? If it isn't I'd say the lower the number the better[close]
Couldn't find any decent looking fish smaller than 37, so definitely gonna grab the Opteka 37mm. just unsure of how many spacers it'll take. I'll be experimenting and will report back.
**experimenting later, cause the TM-700 just showed up with a bunch of scratches on the lens -_- buying stuff online is such a pain in the ass lmao[close]
I bought essentially the same setup. An hs-700 and an opteka 37mm. Also have a Sony ms907. Everything for under 350 and it looks great in my opinion. I have the fisheye with no spacers just the 46-37 step down ring and putting into a 4:3 time line gives it perfect vig with no extra cropping. Still waiting for snow to melt to get some test footage.
(https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/KNQGiYu5IcFy.jpg?o=1)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThanks for the replies @bataaard @suckmadeck @Jordan WiensExpand QuoteSo I'd say step down to 26mm if that's even possible? If it isn't I'd say the lower the number the better[close]
Couldn't find any decent looking fish smaller than 37, so definitely gonna grab the Opteka 37mm. just unsure of how many spacers it'll take. I'll be experimenting and will report back.
**experimenting later, cause the TM-700 just showed up with a bunch of scratches on the lens -_- buying stuff online is such a pain in the ass lmao[close]
I bought essentially the same setup. An hs-700 and an opteka 37mm. Also have a Sony ms907. Everything for under 350 and it looks great in my opinion. I have the fisheye with no spacers just the 46-37 step down ring and putting into a 4:3 time line gives it perfect vig with no extra cropping. Still waiting for snow to melt to get some test footage.[close]
Looks so sick! I need to experiment more because my vig is pretty soft on the edges; yours looks very crisp. Maybe I can ditch one of the spacers.
I like the handle rig too; i had to get creative.
and yeah, anyone looking at these older gen Panasonic cameras: You're gonna need an external mic. Onboard is actual trash.
I'll post some pics of my handle and vig when I'm back at my PC!
Yea try it with just the 46-37 step down and no spacers. I noticed using any spacers made the vig a lot less sharpExpand Quote[close]
Saw this example of using the new mk1 adapter on an ax700.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZ-heH9vF1x/?utm_medium=copy_link
Hi guys, love all the experimentation going on in this group! Just wanted to share a film I've been shooting for the past year with the Canon XF200 and screw mount MK1.
Hi guys, love all the experimentation going on in this group! Just wanted to share a film I've been shooting for the past year with the Canon XF200 and screw mount MK1.looked so good! if it wasnt for the audio i wouldve mistook it for upscaled vx footage. i have one of the rare screw mk1's too. eventually want to pick up the xf400/405 if i find one at a good price.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC8QkxfySqE
Hi guys, love all the experimentation going on in this group! Just wanted to share a film I've been shooting for the past year with the Canon XF200 and screw mount MK1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC8QkxfySqE
lurked this thread for a few months while figuring out the best option to make my set up work for 4:3. i filmed this edit for three weeks while testing out the meike 3.5mm on a panasonic af-100. the intro was filmed with trv-900 and the HD long lens is a hvx-200.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc66Ln2e1sk&feature=emb_title (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc66Ln2e1sk&feature=emb_title)
Also, someone else said before that the MK1 has softer glass than the MK2 so the image isn't as sharp. I personally don't really notice or mind how it looks but I've had people DM me saying the footage looks like shit. It's all preference.
Universal MK1 adapter came in, here's a little comparison:
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/04mG3AYyg3Bqv2yy4j/giphy.gif?cid=790b76110a49071c8520f0c63228392c657d747e00140f9b&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Here are some screenshots if you want a closer look:
(if you right click -> copy image address -> paste into browser and remove the "l" before the .png at the end of the URL you can see the full HD res)
Definitely not ideal testing conditions, but when I've got some time I'll do a proper skating one - first impressions are pretty good!
Expand Quotelurked this thread for a few months while figuring out the best option to make my set up work for 4:3. i filmed this edit for three weeks while testing out the meike 3.5mm on a panasonic af-100. the intro was filmed with trv-900 and the HD long lens is a hvx-200.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc66Ln2e1sk&feature=emb_title (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc66Ln2e1sk&feature=emb_title)[close]
Looking good! Also that backside 50-50 ender looks so insane!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMXmSsHBR6scowart is the man
made an edit with some homies during my first week back living in washington. im really starting to like the look of the meike 3.5mm & panasonic af100.damn the af100 really is like a mirrorless hpx170. i have a homie who shoots long lens on an hpx but uses this cam with a speedbooster/canon 8-15mm as a budget xtreme setup. crazy you can get that for like half or less of an xtreme now.
made an edit with some homies during my first week back living in washington. im really starting to like the look of the meike 3.5mm & panasonic af100.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j00Nksom5M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j00Nksom5M)
all the Pano AF100's i saw were over $2000Expand Quotemade an edit with some homies during my first week back living in washington. im really starting to like the look of the meike 3.5mm & panasonic af100.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j00Nksom5M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j00Nksom5M)[close]
This looks awesome. And such a cheap setup!
all the Pano AF100's i saw were over $2000Expand QuoteExpand Quotemade an edit with some homies during my first week back living in washington. im really starting to like the look of the meike 3.5mm & panasonic af100.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j00Nksom5M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j00Nksom5M)[close]
This looks awesome. And such a cheap setup![close]
Does anyone use that meike 3.5mm on any non-Panasonic cams via an adapter? Will it only work on mirrorless? Looks really good, and cheap too.https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1542242-REG/venus_optics_ve428fe_laowa_4mm_f_2_8_fisheye.html
Expand QuoteDoes anyone use that meike 3.5mm on any non-Panasonic cams via an adapter? Will it only work on mirrorless? Looks really good, and cheap too.[close]
reason the meike wont work on canon dslr's is called flange distance. the fisheye is so close to the sensor on mirrorless, and its designed for that distance. on dslr's there is a mirrorbox in the way creating more of a distance. adapters not only change the mount but create the perfect distance from lens to sensor too. if it was just any size, you wouldnt be able to focus properly, or at least not focus to infinity.
Expand QuoteDoes anyone have a vig overlay and the time to send it to me? Would be really awesome and i'd be super grateful![close]
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LHKNicruVTe0hAVJuXg8LX7VwaNkMrlv/view?usp=sharing
Here's another one, you can also resize/position. This one you will probably need to soften it slightly or use some gaussian blur because its a bit too sharp but once you do so it will look good.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32839581859.htmlbumping it to this page so no one else gets scammed
found the lens that vx fisheye sales is selling for $450 as a mk1 to dslr adapter
Thanks for all the info provided here, guys. Some pretty rad setups here!
After a year of experiencing issues with the VX1 involving the general VX1 working issues when out filming and sorting repairs (and often enough very expensive prices for VX1s, which might turn up already broken - fun). I decided on a HD cam after my full length vid is done. I'll keep the VX1 for smaller projects, then.
I went with a Canon XF100 since it seemed tidy for the price and what came with it. It seems pretty decent from the test footy I shot of chasing my dog around, so I'm hoping to get some clips later at the park to fully test it out.
I did order one of those Sony mics, as this one was going cheap. I don't think it's going to turn up, though. Bugger.
Expand QuoteThanks for all the info provided here, guys. Some pretty rad setups here!
After a year of experiencing issues with the VX1 involving the general VX1 working issues when out filming and sorting repairs (and often enough very expensive prices for VX1s, which might turn up already broken - fun). I decided on a HD cam after my full length vid is done. I'll keep the VX1 for smaller projects, then.
I went with a Canon XF100 since it seemed tidy for the price and what came with it. It seems pretty decent from the test footy I shot of chasing my dog around, so I'm hoping to get some clips later at the park to fully test it out.
I did order one of those Sony mics, as this one was going cheap. I don't think it's going to turn up, though. Bugger.[close]
https://youtu.be/bC8QkxfySqE
this is XF200 MK1. whatever this guy is doing it looks sick. maybe hit them up
Expand QuoteThanks for all the info provided here, guys. Some pretty rad setups here!
After a year of experiencing issues with the VX1 involving the general VX1 working issues when out filming and sorting repairs (and often enough very expensive prices for VX1s, which might turn up already broken - fun). I decided on a HD cam after my full length vid is done. I'll keep the VX1 for smaller projects, then.
I went with a Canon XF100 since it seemed tidy for the price and what came with it. It seems pretty decent from the test footy I shot of chasing my dog around, so I'm hoping to get some clips later at the park to fully test it out.
I did order one of those Sony mics, as this one was going cheap. I don't think it's going to turn up, though. Bugger.[close]
https://youtu.be/bC8QkxfySqE
this is XF200 MK1. whatever this guy is doing it looks sick. maybe hit them up
Sony AX100/ modded Nikon FC-E9:
https://youtu.be/VXSkGtjv7t4
I modded this more securely than the original JB welded spacer method. After cutting the tube off, I filed the back of the housing down to the inner lock-ring threads, then screwed a male to male coupling ring to those threads from the outside, then stepped that up to 62mm. Came out way better than I expected.
Edit: No idea why it isn't letting me post the photo, but here's the link:
https://imgur.com/a/IGcMNIr
Sony AX100/ modded Nikon FC-E9:
https://youtu.be/VXSkGtjv7t4
I modded this more securely than the original JB welded spacer method. After cutting the tube off, I filed the back of the housing down to the inner lock-ring threads, then screwed a male to male coupling ring to those threads from the outside, then stepped that up to 62mm. Came out way better than I expected.
Edit: No idea why it isn't letting me post the photo, but here's the link:
https://imgur.com/a/IGcMNIr
I saw this nice little write up on panasonic p2 domination of skate media and the need for something new on quartersnacks this morning. (https://medium.com/@blainewilliams4/why-is-skateboarding-stuck-in-720p-c9acc07ce322) this thread gets a shout out. Though I don't totally agree with the writer's outlook (I like 720p!) the article is nice shorthand for the unfamiliar and might alleviate some explaining in here from time to time
I saw this nice little write up on panasonic p2 domination of skate media and the need for something new on quartersnacks this morning. (https://medium.com/@blainewilliams4/why-is-skateboarding-stuck-in-720p-c9acc07ce322) this thread gets a shout out. Though I don't totally agree with the writer's outlook (I like 720p!) the article is nice shorthand for the unfamiliar and might alleviate some explaining in here from time to time
Expand QuoteI saw this nice little write up on panasonic p2 domination of skate media and the need for something new on quartersnacks this morning. (https://medium.com/@blainewilliams4/why-is-skateboarding-stuck-in-720p-c9acc07ce322) this thread gets a shout out. Though I don't totally agree with the writer's outlook (I like 720p!) the article is nice shorthand for the unfamiliar and might alleviate some explaining in here from time to time[close]this entire article is stupid. it sounds like this dude had to write this for a class.
sorry i feel like thats a little harsh, its not stupid its just.... idk, unnecessary?
Just finished up this first vid I've made using an XF200 w/ my old ass GL1 MK2. There's also a bit of hi8 footage in there.really enjoyed this vid man. i keep leaning towards going for the canon xf200/mk1 set-up and all the footage i see just makes me want it more. do you color grade your footage at all? the only think i don't like is the kinda bland colors and if i had one i would probably go for a color profile that makes it even more washed out (think of like a vx1000 with the color option turned all the way down) or one that makes it more saturated
Definitely was inspired/helped by this thread. Thanks y'all.
https://youtu.be/flzINXsodms
really enjoyed this vid man. i keep leaning towards going for the canon xf200/mk1 set-up and all the footage i see just makes me want it more. do you color grade your footage at all? the only think i don't like is the kinda bland colors and if i had one i would probably go for a color profile that makes it even more washed out (think of like a vx1000 with the color option turned all the way down) or one that makes it more saturatedExpand QuoteJust finished up this first vid I've made using an XF200 w/ my old ass GL1 MK2. There's also a bit of hi8 footage in there.
Definitely was inspired/helped by this thread. Thanks y'all.
https://youtu.be/flzINXsodms[close]
always love seeing max murphy footage <3 couple things. def gotta get some sort of mic for it, even if its as cheap as a rode video micro (soft wheels will help line audio too). bumping sharpness up in cam or a little in post will help a lot, using a high shutter speed of at least 500 will help too. and take off the lens hood of the MK2 and leave it inside the lens cap so you dont get that weird vignetting. and again more max murphy! love that dudes skating
just dropped a new part with my homie for our local shop out here in washington. filmed with the af-100/meike 3.5mm and hvx-200a for the long lens footage. i wasnt sure how i would like the meike fisheye at first because of the price/quality compared to the 8-15 canon lens but after using it for my last few edits, i am completely sold on this thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUftguEH7Mk&t=109s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUftguEH7Mk&t=109s)
fuck tapes
Here’s a test clip of my pretty budget setup that is kind of the poor man’s version of bataards setup. It’s a Sony cx900 (non 4K version of an ax100. Still shoots 1080 60p). 37mm opteka and a Sony ms908c mic. Still need to play around with the settings more, but looks pretty solid.
https://youtu.be/4e6gc8LdvO8
Pic of the setup
(https://i.postimg.cc/Pr9hVWLX/6814-A016-8-CFB-4630-9-E29-DB2-C8-A3-F1807.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hfLHf7b6)
Expand QuoteHere’s a test clip of my pretty budget setup that is kind of the poor man’s version of bataards setup. It’s a Sony cx900 (non 4K version of an ax100. Still shoots 1080 60p). 37mm opteka and a Sony ms908c mic. Still need to play around with the settings more, but looks pretty solid.
https://youtu.be/4e6gc8LdvO8
Pic of the setup
(https://i.postimg.cc/Pr9hVWLX/6814-A016-8-CFB-4630-9-E29-DB2-C8-A3-F1807.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hfLHf7b6)[close]
Looks really good and that compact ass setup looks fun to use. i'm also on the 37mm opteka/MS908 combo just with a panasonic camcorder. your vig def looks sharper than mine. is that a huge ass spacer on there?
What setting do you put the ms908 on? 90 degrees or 120? I never remember which one i set it to and one definitely sounds better than the other. I need to do some proper tests.
Also, if you set your timeline to 1080p or even higher, youtube will give you higher bitrates so your footage will look better in the youtube player.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHere’s a test clip of my pretty budget setup that is kind of the poor man’s version of bataards setup. It’s a Sony cx900 (non 4K version of an ax100. Still shoots 1080 60p). 37mm opteka and a Sony ms908c mic. Still need to play around with the settings more, but looks pretty solid.
https://youtu.be/4e6gc8LdvO8
Pic of the setup
(https://i.postimg.cc/Pr9hVWLX/6814-A016-8-CFB-4630-9-E29-DB2-C8-A3-F1807.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hfLHf7b6)[close]
Looks really good and that compact ass setup looks fun to use. i'm also on the 37mm opteka/MS908 combo just with a panasonic camcorder. your vig def looks sharper than mine. is that a huge ass spacer on there?
What setting do you put the ms908 on? 90 degrees or 120? I never remember which one i set it to and one definitely sounds better than the other. I need to do some proper tests.
Also, if you set your timeline to 1080p or even higher, youtube will give you higher bitrates so your footage will look better in the youtube player.[close]
Thanks for the info to get YouTube to have higher bitrates. On the mic I have been putting it on 120, but don’t really know the difference between the two.
I had the same Panasonic camera you had and the vig was always a little blurry for me as well. I’ve gotten really sharp vig on a canon g40, but due to the type of stabilizer it uses the vig would shake a little even with the stabilizer off. On the cx900 I am just using a 62-37 step down ring. And then scaling footage about 122%
I don’t love the settings on this camera compared to the canon, but dig the output and the non shakey vig
https://youtu.be/2jG83Q6HmM8Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteHere’s a test clip of my pretty budget setup that is kind of the poor man’s version of bataards setup. It’s a Sony cx900 (non 4K version of an ax100. Still shoots 1080 60p). 37mm opteka and a Sony ms908c mic. Still need to play around with the settings more, but looks pretty solid.[close]
Looks really good and that compact ass setup looks fun to use. i'm also on the 37mm opteka/MS908 combo just with a panasonic camcorder. your vig def looks sharper than mine. is that a huge ass spacer on there?
What setting do you put the ms908 on? 90 degrees or 120? I never remember which one i set it to and one definitely sounds better than the other. I need to do some proper tests.
Also, if you set your timeline to 1080p or even higher, youtube will give you higher bitrates so your footage will look better in the youtube player.[close]
Thanks for the info to get YouTube to have higher bitrates. On the mic I have been putting it on 120, but don’t really know the difference between the two.
I had the same Panasonic camera you had and the vig was always a little blurry for me as well. I’ve gotten really sharp vig on a canon g40, but due to the type of stabilizer it uses the vig would shake a little even with the stabilizer off. On the cx900 I am just using a 62-37 step down ring. And then scaling footage about 122%
I don’t love the settings on this camera compared to the canon, but dig the output and the non shakey vig[close]
Interesting, thanks for sharing all this, might help many others who might go down the same path trying to find an older affordable cam. I have been looking at the Canon HF-G series for months but that vig situation makes it kind of a non starter.
a microphone thread is probably necessary too...
Does anyone have experience with any of the following fisheyes?
- Tokina SZ 8mm F2.8 Fisheye MF
- 7artisans 7.5mm F2.8 II
- TTArtisan 7.5mm f/2
I am looking for a fisheye with a image circle big enough to film 16:9 with a full frame camera (no crop) and be able to crop to 4:3 without much vignetting. The 7artisans and the TTartisans don't have removable lenshoods so some cutting will be neccesary. The tokina looks promising despite not being the best optical quality, I think for video it is enough.
Other options are the tokina 10-17 mm (does anyone here use it?) and the canon 8-15 mm (the best but also the most expensive).
I also accept suggestions for a fisheye with a image circle big enough to film 16:9 with an aps-c camera (1.5x crop) and be able to crop to 4:3 without much vignetting.
Really diggin this vid from Florida homies 8)
https://youtu.be/pAdtkkgxMEs
Hvx200 filmed by Ben Eubank
Expand QuoteReally diggin this vid from Florida homies 8)
Hvx200 filmed by Ben Eubank[close]
These guys are the best, Ben is the GOAT
My new 4:3 HD video "Hollandsch Diep" just came out.Very sickkk !
GH5 - Meike 3.5
https://youtu.be/0ZjMQDc1i3Q
Does anyone use a GH5/Speedbooster and have any experience with it feeling a little bit wobbly/loose? You can see the vignetting shake around a little bit in some clips (a couple clips were really bad and I just fixed the vig with a mask).you could add a lens support if your cage allows it? kind of like the rail system on an hpx
you could add a lens support if your cage allows it? kind of like the rail system on an hpxExpand QuoteDoes anyone use a GH5/Speedbooster and have any experience with it feeling a little bit wobbly/loose? You can see the vignetting shake around a little bit in some clips (a couple clips were really bad and I just fixed the vig with a mask).[close]
Expand Quoteyou could add a lens support if your cage allows it? kind of like the rail system on an hpxExpand QuoteDoes anyone use a GH5/Speedbooster and have any experience with it feeling a little bit wobbly/loose? You can see the vignetting shake around a little bit in some clips (a couple clips were really bad and I just fixed the vig with a mask).[close][close]
Good suggestion! I have this little extension mount thing that I used for VX1/MRC1 that is almost perfect. The Metabones screw mount is a little higher up than the mount under the Eazy Handle that I use so it doesn't sit perfectly flush, but until I can track down a longer screw this is pretty much perfect!
(https://i.imgur.com/rt73qJVl.jpg)
youre supporting the adapter but it could be loose at the mount to the canon part. this attached to rails would push up on the lens and hold the whole thing in place.Expand QuoteExpand Quoteyou could add a lens support if your cage allows it? kind of like the rail system on an hpxExpand QuoteDoes anyone use a GH5/Speedbooster and have any experience with it feeling a little bit wobbly/loose? You can see the vignetting shake around a little bit in some clips (a couple clips were really bad and I just fixed the vig with a mask).[close][close]
Good suggestion! I have this little extension mount thing that I used for VX1/MRC1 that is almost perfect. The Metabones screw mount is a little higher up than the mount under the Eazy Handle that I use so it doesn't sit perfectly flush, but until I can track down a longer screw this is pretty much perfect![close]
I'm spoiled by the simplicity of VX1000s and always try to simplify setups as much as possible for that run-and-gun type of thing.this
thisExpand QuoteI'm spoiled by the simplicity of VX1000s and always try to simplify setups as much as possible for that run-and-gun type of thing.[close]
Expand QuotethisExpand QuoteI'm spoiled by the simplicity of VX1000s and always try to simplify setups as much as possible for that run-and-gun type of thing.[close][close]
Why not just get a modern run-and-gun setup then? There are plenty of good-looking DSLR rigs but it seems like so much work compared to just fitting a fisheye to a video camera with a handle.
Expand QuoteExpand QuotethisExpand QuoteI'm spoiled by the simplicity of VX1000s and always try to simplify setups as much as possible for that run-and-gun type of thing.[close][close]
Why not just get a modern run-and-gun setup then? There are plenty of good-looking DSLR rigs but it seems like so much work compared to just fitting a fisheye to a video camera with a handle.[close]
I was thinking of this when I was going to HD, really could not be arsed with farting around with sorting rigs, especially after doing so with a Frankenstein VX1 to run a recording device.
See if you can score what I got for cheap online (Canon XF100). They're pretty dope to film with and quite light, too.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuotethisExpand QuoteI'm spoiled by the simplicity of VX1000s and always try to simplify setups as much as possible for that run-and-gun type of thing.[close][close]
Why not just get a modern run-and-gun setup then? There are plenty of good-looking DSLR rigs but it seems like so much work compared to just fitting a fisheye to a video camera with a handle.[close]
I was thinking of this when I was going to HD, really could not be arsed with farting around with sorting rigs, especially after doing so with a Frankenstein VX1 to run a recording device.
See if you can score what I got for cheap online (Canon XF100). They're pretty dope to film with and quite light, too.[close]
i recently bought a sony ax700 and this is my current struggle right now. i've been to so many hardware stores looking for the right l brackets to make a handle out of and cannot find ones wide enough. at this point i'm going to have to get some l brackets and mount the plastic seat piece from a opteka x grip onto it and do it that way, because the plastic handle thing is so fucking wobbly and annoying and no one sells just two god damn l brackets attached to each other
Expand QuotethisExpand QuoteI'm spoiled by the simplicity of VX1000s and always try to simplify setups as much as possible for that run-and-gun type of thing.[close][close]
Why not just get a modern run-and-gun setup then? There are plenty of good-looking DSLR rigs but it seems like so much work compared to just fitting a fisheye to a video camera with a handle.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuotethisExpand QuoteI'm spoiled by the simplicity of VX1000s and always try to simplify setups as much as possible for that run-and-gun type of thing.[close][close]
Why not just get a modern run-and-gun setup then? There are plenty of good-looking DSLR rigs but it seems like so much work compared to just fitting a fisheye to a video camera with a handle.[close]
I was thinking of this when I was going to HD, really could not be arsed with farting around with sorting rigs, especially after doing so with a Frankenstein VX1 to run a recording device.
See if you can score what I got for cheap online (Canon XF100). They're pretty dope to film with and quite light, too.[close]
i recently bought a sony ax700 and this is my current struggle right now. i've been to so many hardware stores looking for the right l brackets to make a handle out of and cannot find ones wide enough. at this point i'm going to have to get some l brackets and mount the plastic seat piece from a opteka x grip onto it and do it that way, because the plastic handle thing is so fucking wobbly and annoying and no one sells just two god damn l brackets attached to each other[close]
I made one out of one of these and it’s fairly decent. Going to work on reinforcing a bit to make sturdier though. The ax700 with an opteka and 3 spacers looks really good in my opinion
https://www.amazon.com/LimoStudio-Bracket-Aluminum-Universal-Speedlite/dp/B01HH5NB2Y/ref=mp_s_a_1_11_sspa?crid=2FZABSL14MCRK&keywords=camera+l+bracket&qid=1673146981&sprefix=camera+l+brack%2Caps%2C90&sr=8-11-spons&psc=1&smid=APGNKGIBL58YH&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExWjZGWVdTSllWSFcmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTAwMzIxNTIyR0Y3VTA1NTk3SDhXJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAyNzYwNTIyUzFWRkU2Rk1CN0lKJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfcGhvbmVfc2VhcmNoX210ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
thanks for the tip, one of those reinforced with some l brackets from the hardware store is probably gonna be my best bet. i've got the mk1 for the ax700 so thing is literally bendy when mounted on a normal cam grip(https://cdn.mall.adeptmind.ai/https%3A%2F%2Fmultimedia.bbycastatic.ca%2Fmultimedia%2Fproducts%2F500x500%2F134%2F13414%2F13414061_1.jpg_medium.webp)
(https://cdn.mall.adeptmind.ai/https%3A%2F%2Fmultimedia.bbycastatic.ca%2Fmultimedia%2Fproducts%2F500x500%2F134%2F13414%2F13414061_1.jpg_medium.webp)Expand Quotethanks for the tip, one of those reinforced with some l brackets from the hardware store is probably gonna be my best bet. i've got the mk1 for the ax700 so thing is literally bendy when mounted on a normal cam grip[close]
if you can somehow mount a cold shoe adapter to the handle it will be way more secure. something like this
(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-owa02r2qyb/images/stencil/500x500/products/354/103462/mcjcw3oyfzilk4al49kc__12966.1668839706.jpg)
Expand Quote(https://cdn.mall.adeptmind.ai/https%3A%2F%2Fmultimedia.bbycastatic.ca%2Fmultimedia%2Fproducts%2F500x500%2F134%2F13414%2F13414061_1.jpg_medium.webp)Expand Quotethanks for the tip, one of those reinforced with some l brackets from the hardware store is probably gonna be my best bet. i've got the mk1 for the ax700 so thing is literally bendy when mounted on a normal cam grip[close]
if you can somehow mount a cold shoe adapter to the handle it will be way more secure. something like this
(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-owa02r2qyb/images/stencil/500x500/products/354/103462/mcjcw3oyfzilk4al49kc__12966.1668839706.jpg)[close]
nah there's no way that is more secure than mounting it to the bottom. the weight of the camera will easily snap the shoe off after a few sessions of strong cam movements.
https://youtu.be/sl6BbysRZnA
For the handle i found this wraparound bracket with a super long cold shoe channel on the top. it allows you to use the viewfinder which is nice which you can't do with a traditional x-grip or bracket.
i've been filming with it for a year and never had any trouble with slippage or sturdiness. been rock solid the whole time
b&h link:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1197471-REG/dm_accessories_wamx00_wrap_around_mount.html
10 bucks off straight from the vendor if you don't mind some blemishes:
https://shop.dm-accessories.com/products/wamx00
here it is on my Panasonic TM900:
https://imgur.com/lHGY2Vx
I saw this online and feel like the skateboard community needs to fire off emails at small rig to actually make this product. It really would be the perfect handle for all ax700 users.
https://co-design.smallrig.com/detail.html?id=2965
There's an Eazy Handle v2 on eBay right now (https://www.ebay.com/itm/275643705130?hash=item402da5272a:g:Ct0AAOSwVbBj0Gsf&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoLDNET31fmTCQof5JVUclBMMLm2ZNc4Qm09pDFzGOmDs6iAUBcTz57ETNx0hmwWsdDwPfP1xpOrcx3xIMMHdABLGHlV02fOAHgguZjrRwREVxO3JVDObhQyybT7jhOJDZ9VKWXwLyL810VhYLAm7SykgybvbUNVmttIUyCICWClvKNIPDLyzsGIpjNFUmIyOaeA594rdyw3okg70SwHlk4s%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR7bZxLjAYQ) for any of the DSLR/Mirrorless people here. 100% worth it IMO.
Expand QuoteThere's an Eazy Handle v2 on eBay right now (https://www.ebay.com/itm/275643705130?hash=item402da5272a:g:Ct0AAOSwVbBj0Gsf&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoLDNET31fmTCQof5JVUclBMMLm2ZNc4Qm09pDFzGOmDs6iAUBcTz57ETNx0hmwWsdDwPfP1xpOrcx3xIMMHdABLGHlV02fOAHgguZjrRwREVxO3JVDObhQyybT7jhOJDZ9VKWXwLyL810VhYLAm7SykgybvbUNVmttIUyCICWClvKNIPDLyzsGIpjNFUmIyOaeA594rdyw3okg70SwHlk4s%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR7bZxLjAYQ) for any of the DSLR/Mirrorless people here. 100% worth it IMO.[close]
Saw these replicas on Etsy that look almost identical to the v2 easy handle. https://www.etsy.com/listing/1186056038/skate-filming-handle-eazy-handle-v2?ref=shop_review%3Fref&variation0=2908121544
Hello everybody, I recently made this video, what do you think about the video format? please feel free to feel completely honest :)
https://youtu.be/uX-YxP-q1iU (https://youtu.be/uX-YxP-q1iU)
Hello everybody, I recently made this video, what do you think about the video format? please feel free to feel completely honest :)
https://youtu.be/uX-YxP-q1iU (https://youtu.be/uX-YxP-q1iU)
I'm currently filming with:
HD
GH5 + meike 6.5mm 2.0f for fisheye with a rode videomicro mic
Panasonic hcx1500 for long lens standard mic
VX
vx2100 + modded mk2 , unfortunately the lens I put inbetween got a bit scratched and sometimes you notice it in the footy.
But this video was made all with the HD setup, the snippets at the end are filmed with the compact olympus photocamera you can see in the video.
Expand QuoteI'm currently filming with:
HD
GH5 + meike 6.5mm 2.0f for fisheye with a rode videomicro mic
Panasonic hcx1500 for long lens standard mic
VX
vx2100 + modded mk2 , unfortunately the lens I put inbetween got a bit scratched and sometimes you notice it in the footy.
But this video was made all with the HD setup, the snippets at the end are filmed with the compact olympus photocamera you can see in the video.[close]
Do you use a vig overlay? Do you film in 4:3 anamorphic mode?
Expand QuoteHello everybody, I recently made this video, what do you think about the video format? please feel free to feel completely honest :)
https://youtu.be/uX-YxP-q1iU (https://youtu.be/uX-YxP-q1iU)[close]
i really liked this video dude. i don't think i would ever go for a gh5/meike set up but im a sucker for the footy when its filmed well, and you definitely got the sauce for it. the video format is odd and the effects are interesting but it's tasteful!
i surprisingly like it too. if you upgraded to the GH5s you could have a slightly wider image even.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHello everybody, I recently made this video, what do you think about the video format? please feel free to feel completely honest :)
https://youtu.be/uX-YxP-q1iU (https://youtu.be/uX-YxP-q1iU)[close]
i really liked this video dude. i don't think i would ever go for a gh5/meike set up but im a sucker for the footy when its filmed well, and you definitely got the sauce for it. the video format is odd and the effects are interesting but it's tasteful![close]
Thanks brother! I believe my fisheye setup is a bit odd, but it does the job and it does it beautifully with the exact look i want it to have, never going back to another camera ;)
Has anyone tried out the Canon XC10? I'm looking to get a camcorder as I already have a 58mm Opteka
Any reccomendations for a mirrorless camera setup that won't break the bank. I'm torn between getting a camcorder setup and a mirrorless camera setup. Camcorder setup as the zoom rocker is way better for long lens. Mirrorless as the output and quality is really good(anything Chris Mulhern puts out).
Any help would be appreciated.
Does anyone know if the glass is identical on all the Opteka 0.3x fisheye adapters with attachment threads from 52-72mm? If I want to shoot HD 4:3 on an HVX200, will a 72mm Opteka with several spacer rings produce the same image as the 52mm version with no spacers? Thanks.its all the same glass with different filter threads but i would go with the 72mm. you'll need an 82-72mm step down ring tho. you can see what it looks like here
its all the same glass with different filter threads but i would go with the 72mm. you'll need an 82-72mm step down ring tho. you can see what it looks like hereExpand QuoteDoes anyone know if the glass is identical on all the Opteka 0.3x fisheye adapters with attachment threads from 52-72mm? If I want to shoot HD 4:3 on an HVX200, will a 72mm Opteka with several spacer rings produce the same image as the 52mm version with no spacers? Thanks.[close]
https://youtu.be/XssqyEA3yYE
hvx has a blurrier image and less wide because of the different lens the hpx has
theyre all based on the century mk2, a clone of it. i would think having a bigger back opening would be better and less restrictive no?Expand Quoteits all the same glass with different filter threads but i would go with the 72mm. you'll need an 82-72mm step down ring tho. you can see what it looks like hereExpand QuoteDoes anyone know if the glass is identical on all the Opteka 0.3x fisheye adapters with attachment threads from 52-72mm? If I want to shoot HD 4:3 on an HVX200, will a 72mm Opteka with several spacer rings produce the same image as the 52mm version with no spacers? Thanks.[close]
https://youtu.be/XssqyEA3yYE
hvx has a blurrier image and less wide because of the different lens the hpx has[close]
In the video you linked the person is using a 52mm Kapkur. I just was watching Ben Jones' video and he said something about using the 52mm version if you want to do 4:3 HD. Are you sure the glass is all the same? So on an HVX shooting 4:3 HD I'd have the same field of view, and same amount of vignetting with both the 52mm and 72mm Opteka 0.3x?
theyre all based on the century mk2, a clone of it. i would think having a bigger back opening would be better and less restrictive no?Expand QuoteExpand Quoteits all the same glass with different filter threads but i would go with the 72mm. you'll need an 82-72mm step down ring tho. you can see what it looks likeExpand QuoteDoes anyone know if the glass is identical on all the Opteka 0.3x fisheye adapters with attachment threads from 52-72mm? If I want to shoot HD 4:3 on an HVX200, will a 72mm Opteka with several spacer rings produce the same image as the 52mm version with no spacers? Thanks.[close]
hvx has a blurrier image and less wide because of the different lens the hpx has[close]
In the video you linked the person is using a 52mm Kapkur. I just was watching Ben Jones' video and he said something about using the 52mm version if you want to do 4:3 HD. Are you sure the glass is all the same? So on an HVX shooting 4:3 HD I'd have the same field of view, and same amount of vignetting with both the 52mm and 72mm Opteka 0.3x?[close]
Quentin Guthrie with the HPX x MK1 setup for NB Numeric
https://youtu.be/TR1g9AcH0qM
it's grain (high db) compressed by youtube.Expand QuoteQuentin Guthrie with the HPX x MK1 setup for NB Numeric
https://youtu.be/TR1g9AcH0qM[close]
So good! Hope he sticks with this setup.
To me it seemed like maybe it was a little blocky at times? Like the bitrate was too low or something. This is an HD camera, it shouldn't be so murky/muddy
https://imgur.com/yXEE5rI
filmed this over the last 2 years, mostly after work and on weekends.
GH4 + Canon 8-15mm + smallrig coldshoe handle (excusing my shity shaky filming)
just bought myself the eazy handle replica off of etsy, hope this will improve the shaky part.
Longlense is a HVX200
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOdSt2uFsWI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOdSt2uFsWI)
Does anyone know where I can get a decent working HPX170 besides eBay. I’m a little sketched out to buy one off there especially because I’ll be shipping it quite far. Any leads would be appreciated!https://www.adorama.com/us1663505.html adorama usually has some stuff kicking around. they have this hmc150 (hpx but films in a different codec to sd card). the only hpx they have rn is the PAL hpx171E (50fps). https://www.adorama.com/us1505647.html
New edit ip put together 4:3 HD, actually all shot in 4k, and a bunch of VHS with a MK1 death lens, put a ton of slow mo just to bum everyone outThe fisheye looks very wide. Sadly you can see the camera grip on the edge of the frame.
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Just recently upgraded from VX/MK1 to HMC/MK1. Curious to see what you guys thinkthe stretch u did is quite obvious. its easy to tell when you know the vig is supposed to be circular and not oval. if you need to do it for whatever reason just ease off a bit to where its not noticeable.
Just recently upgraded from VX/MK1 to HMC/MK1. Curious to see what you guys think
Yeah I found out I fucked up and forgot to set the pixel aspect ratio on my render settings the same as my project settings. Came out in square not true 4:3 but I have that and better crop settings figured out for the futurethe stretch u did is quite obvious. its easy to tell when you know the vig is supposed to be circular and not oval. if you need to do it for whatever reason just ease off a bit to where its not noticeable.Expand QuoteJust recently upgraded from VX/MK1 to HMC/MK1. Curious to see what you guys think[close]
(https://i.ibb.co/1TK3x8g/B1-B0930-F-B59-D-40-A5-9-C65-FA9227-BC8-D17.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1TK3x8g)Expand QuoteJust recently upgraded from VX/MK1 to HMC/MK1. Curious to see what you guys think[close]
The mk1 footy reminds me of DVX footage from back in the day and I've always loved that camera. Can you post a pic of your setup? I'd be interested to see it.
http://vimeo.com/829677759
(https://i.imgur.com/1MxBjVE.jpg)
Canon Vixia HV30
CAMVATE Adjustable Camera Cage (1722 model)
Atomos Ninja 2 / Atomos Ninja Star (to bypass MiniDV tapes as well as apply 2:2 pulldown to record 1080p29.97 instead of 1080i60)
Recorded in ProRes 422 LT ~102mbps (compared to 25mbps for MiniDV tapes)
Nikon FC-E9 0.2x Fisheye
43mm to 46mm step-up ring
on-board microphone for now (camcorder doesn't provide power via the 3.5mm jack)
Stabilizer on for long lens shots
Stabilizer off for fisheye shots
1440x1080 timeline
fisheye shots zoomed in 10% and roughly centered
Expand Quotehttp://vimeo.com/829677759
(https://i.imgur.com/1MxBjVE.jpg)
Canon Vixia HV30
CAMVATE Adjustable Camera Cage (1722 model)
Atomos Ninja 2 / Atomos Ninja Star (to bypass MiniDV tapes as well as apply 2:2 pulldown to record 1080p29.97 instead of 1080i60)
Recorded in ProRes 422 LT ~102mbps (compared to 25mbps for MiniDV tapes)
Nikon FC-E9 0.2x Fisheye
43mm to 46mm step-up ring
on-board microphone for now (camcorder doesn't provide power via the 3.5mm jack)
Stabilizer on for long lens shots
Stabilizer off for fisheye shots
1440x1080 timeline
fisheye shots zoomed in 10% and roughly centered[close]
that's insane, props to you for putting together such a strange setup. in my ebay browsings i've always seen those "HDV" cameras that use tapes and film 1080i and I thought they were irredeemable but you made something out of it. never would have thought to go tapeless with those tape HD cameras
also putting the cage to the left of the camera to surround the flip out LCD is a stroke of cage design genius
i think I really want an FC-E9
dope post @35mm , seems like people are cropping and stretching all crazy lately, love to see some experimentation
Which lenses do you mean? The ones with Power O.I.S? They are not parfocal.
tl;dr:
I sunk ~300 Eur on a b4 lens setup, which I rarely use because it is annoying to setup/transport and not very ergonomical to use.
Imo the "best" "cheap" option if you want to shoot long lens is to get an old b4 lens + adapters.
I have something similar to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92ggbr004NU
But that setup "sucks" as well. Setting it up is a pain. I need to detach the eazyhandle clone because otherwise it is too much stress on the bayonet. Then mount the adapter + lens and get out the powerbank for the lens for being able to use the zoom rocker.
Mine is as heavy as another camcorder + it is incredibly hard to keep stable on the gh4 because you don't have any stabilization and I don't have any additional fixed contact points for keeping it stable. I am trying to find an G-Cup EVF Eyecup for the GH4 for an eternity now, to have a more camcorder-like way of shooting. At some point I might try something like this Walimex Pro viewfinder, but that would be another thing to carry around and setup. Keeping it stable might be easier on a gh5 though with its IBS. I think a good tripod/shoulder rig would help a lot, but than it would be even more annoying to set up every time + even more stuff to transport. It is definitely not a "get it out quick and shoot" type of setup.
If you spend some time on ebay, then it is still a kinda "cheap" option to try. I paid 100 Eur for the lens + ~60 for the lens adapter + ~50 for 5.5 x 2.5 to 12pin hirose adapter cable + ~90 for the power bank. So in sum ~300 Eur.
Expand QuoteWhich lenses do you mean? The ones with Power O.I.S? They are not parfocal.
tl;dr:
I sunk ~300 Eur on a b4 lens setup, which I rarely use because it is annoying to setup/transport and not very ergonomical to use.
Imo the "best" "cheap" option if you want to shoot long lens is to get an old b4 lens + adapters.
I have something similar to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92ggbr004NU
But that setup "sucks" as well. Setting it up is a pain. I need to detach the eazyhandle clone because otherwise it is too much stress on the bayonet. Then mount the adapter + lens and get out the powerbank for the lens for being able to use the zoom rocker.
Mine is as heavy as another camcorder + it is incredibly hard to keep stable on the gh4 because you don't have any stabilization and I don't have any additional fixed contact points for keeping it stable. I am trying to find an G-Cup EVF Eyecup for the GH4 for an eternity now, to have a more camcorder-like way of shooting. At some point I might try something like this Walimex Pro viewfinder, but that would be another thing to carry around and setup. Keeping it stable might be easier on a gh5 though with its IBS. I think a good tripod/shoulder rig would help a lot, but than it would be even more annoying to set up every time + even more stuff to transport. It is definitely not a "get it out quick and shoot" type of setup.
If you spend some time on ebay, then it is still a kinda "cheap" option to try. I paid 100 Eur for the lens + ~60 for the lens adapter + ~50 for 5.5 x 2.5 to 12pin hirose adapter cable + ~90 for the power bank. So in sum ~300 Eur.[close]
Not the Power OIS but there was a 45-175 Power Zoom lens that has a zoom on the lens itself supposedly imitating parfocal lenses (of course to a much lesser degree) - https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/818956-REG/Panasonic_H_PS45175K_Lumix_G_X_Vario.html
That setup you have there is sick thanks for sharing, definitely feel the pain on trying to figure out something that's cheap, looks decent and doesn't take ten years and a 5 man crew to setup whenever you want to film lol
Hi Slap, I've just released my new HD 4:3 video project with my friends, it's filmed with a GH5/meike 3,5 fisheye and a HC-X1500 for long lens clips ! Hope you'll enjoy it : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNQzwsGVSFE
Expand QuoteHi Slap, I've just released my new HD 4:3 video project with my friends, it's filmed with a GH5/meike 3,5 fisheye and a HC-X1500 for long lens clips ! Hope you'll enjoy it : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNQzwsGVSFE[close]
Rad video! Nice work
quick lil nyc edit i made the other day
http://youtu.be/7GvgpWrw-dI
quick lil nyc edit i made the other day
http://youtu.be/7GvgpWrw-dI
https://youtu.be/WM_Opn7aB0U
HPX170 w/ Opteka 58mm (58mm - 72mm step down ring & 1 72mm spacer)
Fotodiox Radius Mini Light
1440x1080 timeline, clips scaled to 150%.
Expand Quotehttps://youtu.be/WM_Opn7aB0U
HPX170 w/ Opteka 58mm (58mm - 72mm step down ring & 1 72mm spacer)
Fotodiox Radius Mini Light
1440x1080 timeline, clips scaled to 150%.[close]
man, I'm such a fan of HD 4:3. if I were to invest in a setup I'd def be shooting in 4:3. footage looks killer, and what a backyard to have! my only gripe is that the day/ evening clips seemed a little dark. the night clips looked on point! what was the approx total cost of your set up?
I just got a hmc150, and I want to film mostly 4:3 but occasionally (if the project calls for it) widescreen. Is it feasible to get a 72mm opteka and space out for 4:3 or should I get the 52mm? I remember reading some posts about this but can’t seem to find them now, dunno if it was in this thread or another.theyre all the same optics just with different threads so get the cheapest one you can find. wether it be opteka, veledge, kapkur..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InqjYweaDbMwhy would you use a Century X-treme to crop it to 4:3...
Saw this pop up on my YouTube, anyone happen to know/have an idea of the setup? Looks dope!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lNJsYJcluo
Rainbow vignette looks like the 7Artisans 4mm I recently got, available for MFT and various APS-C mounts. My bet is on GH4 plus that fisheye, though it doesn't look quite as bubbly so I am not sure.Pro tip about about telling apart fisheye add-on lenses (fisheyes that you put in front of your camcorder lens ie mk1, mk2, xtreme,…) and fisheyes for dslr or mirrorless cameras. The latter produce a much sharper, clearer image, particularly on the corners.
Pro tip about about telling apart fisheye add-on lenses (fisheyes that you put in front of your camcorder lens ie mk1, mk2, xtreme,…) and fisheyes for dslr or mirrorless cameras. The latter produce a much sharper, clearer image, particularly on the corners.Expand QuoteRainbow vignette looks like the 7Artisans 4mm I recently got, available for MFT and various APS-C mounts. My bet is on GH4 plus that fisheye, though it doesn't look quite as bubbly so I am not sure.[close]
That’s actually a very good point and what I feel is the main drawback of the 7artisans 4mm, the meike 3.5mm and the laowa 4mm. The image circle is so small that one has to crop a lot of the footage to get a reasonable image. On one side you end up losing a lot of the quality (especially at 1080p) and on the other side it is difficult to know on camera how will the footage look once cropped.That makes a lot of sense, though with circular fisheyes like the 7Artisans 4mm you’ll have to crop in a lot and things won’t look as sharp especially when filming at 1080p.Expand QuotePro tip about about telling apart fisheye add-on lenses (fisheyes that you put in front of your camcorder lens ie mk1, mk2, xtreme,…) and fisheyes for dslr or mirrorless cameras. The latter produce a much sharper, clearer image, particularly on the corners.Expand QuoteRainbow vignette looks like the 7Artisans 4mm I recently got, available for MFT and various APS-C mounts. My bet is on GH4 plus that fisheye, though it doesn't look quite as bubbly so I am not sure.[close][close]
That’s actually a very good point and what I feel is the main drawback of the 7artisans 4mm, the meike 3.5mm and the laowa 4mm. The image circle is so small that one has to crop a lot of the footage to get a reasonable image. On one side you end up losing a lot of the quality (especially at 1080p) and on the other side it is difficult to know on camera how will the footage look once cropped.Expand QuoteThat makes a lot of sense, though with circular fisheyes like the 7Artisans 4mm you’ll have to crop in a lot and things won’t look as sharp especially when filming at 1080p.Expand QuotePro tip about about telling apart fisheye add-on lenses (fisheyes that you put in front of your camcorder lens ie mk1, mk2, xtreme,…) and fisheyes for dslr or mirrorless cameras. The latter produce a much sharper, clearer image, particularly on the corners.Expand QuoteRainbow vignette looks like the 7Artisans 4mm I recently got, available for MFT and various APS-C mounts. My bet is on GH4 plus that fisheye, though it doesn't look quite as bubbly so I am not sure.[close][close][close]
It will be great if they released a similar lens but with a bigger image circle, more suitable for aps-c and full frame sensors.
Been enjoying using the ax700/MK1 setup recently - I have just a make shift handle with no mounts for mic and light, I can fit one or the other on the camera. Has anyone got any specific handle recommendations for me at all? Thanks.
just dropped this new 4:3 HD video i filmed over the last 10 months in new york city. probably my last project using the panasonic AF100/meike 3.5mm combo before i switch to HPX/MK1 🫡
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nJxduVj55R0
Expand Quotejust dropped this new 4:3 HD video i filmed over the last 10 months in new york city. probably my last project using the panasonic AF100/meike 3.5mm combo before i switch to HPX/MK1 🫡
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nJxduVj55R0[close]
Just watched it last night. So sick, really interesting setup. I can't believe your homie tried the TJ rail by the banks, just insane.
Stoked to see what you come up with on the MK1!!
Finally figured out how to make the MK1 look like VX1000 on the Canon XF200
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI3ldgLV3jk
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C51sDebJPg7/?igsh=bHMxeTJ1MjlmM3Q1is this the mk1 screw or adapted? did you have to zoom in at all in post? i have the mk1 screw and was thinking of going the xf405 route which i think is the same lens and sensor but diff codecs and ergonomics
Not sure how to embed through phone but this is XF605/MK1
Currently Loving this setup
is this the mk1 screw or adapted? did you have to zoom in at all in post? i have the mk1 screw and was thinking of going the xf405 route which i think is the same lens and sensor but diff codecs and ergonomicsExpand Quotehttps://www.instagram.com/reel/C51sDebJPg7/?igsh=bHMxeTJ1MjlmM3Q1
Not sure how to embed through phone but this is XF605/MK1
Currently Loving this setup[close]
Expand Quoteis this the mk1 screw or adapted? did you have to zoom in at all in post? i have the mk1 screw and was thinking of going the xf405 route which i think is the same lens and sensor but diff codecs and ergonomicsExpand Quotehttps://www.instagram.com/reel/C51sDebJPg7/?igsh=bHMxeTJ1MjlmM3Q1
Not sure how to embed through phone but this is XF605/MK1
Currently Loving this setup[close][close]
I came from the 405. Basically the same quality wise. I shoot fully zoomed out And zoom in post to 128%. 405 requires less zoom in post if I remember correctly. Using the mk1 58mm adapter from vx fisheye sales