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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: LOU.502 on April 21, 2017, 12:45:39 AM
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Idk how to embed, but JWray's people apparently got together with Cab's people and confirmed, seemingly without a doubt, the existence of frontside cabs. I know Carroll talked ab fakie fs flip vs. fs half cab flip, etc... but it seems the case is now, and forever closed? Perhaps ending a years, possibly decades long argument (mainly among slappers)? Thoughts? Gipper? Sorry if it's abp, moderately sorry that I couldn't embed
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I see there is still bias.
Mr. Steve Caballero invented the Cab - fakie backside 360. We, humans are programmed to be proud, take credit for important achievements. Here asking his opinion what is the right nomenclature - fakie frontside 360 vs fakie frontside cab - is not a subjective choice, because his opinion is biased towards his own accomplishment.
I'm here With Carroll. Fakie Cab is fakie backside 360 and fakie frontside 360 is fakie frontside 360.
Actually who did THE first fakie frontside 360? If it was also Steve Caballero, then my above paragraph is trash.
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Fakie Cab is fakie backside 360 and fakie frontside 360 is fakie frontside 360.
"fakie cab" is redundant and thus should as such not exist.
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If you follow Jeremy on Instagram you'll get your fill of trick name debates.
Varial kickflips come up all the time, as do frontside half cab flips.
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Whatever you call it, Jeremy Wray did it (180) down the LA triple set in 2001. At the time I never understood how heavy that was but it's fucking crazy.
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It's not really something that comes up a lot, but I always go with, "Front cab", "Frontside half-cab flip", etc. "Fakie 360" just sounds weird to me.
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It's not really something that comes up a lot, but I always go with, "Front cab", "Frontside half-cab flip", etc. "Fakie 360" just sounds weird to me.
Same here.
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I see there is still bias.
Mr. Steve Caballero invented the Cab - fakie backside 360. We, humans are programmed to be proud, take credit for important achievements. Here asking his opinion what is the right nomenclature - fakie frontside 360 vs fakie frontside cab - is not a subjective choice, because his opinion is biased towards his own accomplishment.
I'm here With Carroll. Fakie Cab is fakie backside 360 and fakie frontside 360 is fakie frontside 360.
Actually who did THE first fakie frontside 360? If it was also Steve Caballero, then my above paragraph is trash.
Carroll says frontside half cab flip and hates the term fakie frontside flip-this would mean that he actually disagrees with you. Therefore, both Cab and Carroll disagree with you and as a result you are incorrect, as you cannot disagree with those two in any matter skateboard related. I'm sorry.
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It's not really something that comes up a lot, but I always go with, "Front cab", "Frontside half-cab flip", etc. "Fakie 360" just sounds weird to me.
Me too. If you're going fakie and you ollie and rotate 180 or 360, f/s or b/s, it'll always be a half-cab or cab to me. But it has to be fakie and you have to ollie.
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Fakie Cab is fakie backside 360 and fakie frontside 360 is fakie frontside 360.
"fakie cab" is redundant and thus should as such not exist.
Carroll says frontside half cab flip and hates the term fakie frontside flip-this would mean that he actually disagrees with you. Therefore, both Cab and Carroll disagree with you and as a result you are incorrect, as you cannot disagree with those two in any matter skateboard related. I'm sorry.
Yup, I screwed up here big time.
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Only thing that bothers me is it should be backside cab. Regular, nollie, switch, back 180 means your back is traveling forward as you do it. For some reason they fucked up naming fakie tricks.
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Always called em' frontside Cab's
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Only thing that bothers me is it should be backside cab. Regular, nollie, switch, back 180 means your back is traveling forward as you do it. For some reason they fucked up naming fakie tricks.
Nah, kiss.
A frontside flip done fakie is a fakie frontside flip.
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It's frontside cab is correct.....
T-hawk did it on vert and almost killed himself.....
Markovich did a heel flip version which I remember more than the 'vich' flip.....
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I always hated when people called varial heel's heelflip shuvit
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frontside cab is a million times easier than backside cabs for me
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I always hated when people called varial heel's heelflip shuvit
heelflip shove it is more accurate. varials are when you turn the board with your hand.
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I always hated when people called� varial heel's� heelflip shuvit
I hate it when people are right too.....but it doesn't eclipse the pain I feel every time someone says varial and I picture Tony Hawk throwing his board in the air like a baton.....
Vich flip around these parts was called 'my dick heel'
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Not gonna get involved in this certain trick or what Cab thinks BUT
kareem campbell the inventor of the "ghetto bird" does not himself know what a "ghetto bird" is
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Cab had an issue with nollie 360s being called nollie cabs, but guess what you made millions off 1 shoe, so it's nollie cab i don't care. Maybe he'll accept it if we call it a switch cabellarial. Also Barley grinds are mostly switch, switch 180 to regs smith grind, can we call a frontside 180 to switch smith, switch barley grind? Rick Ibasta invents Barley grinds anyway so everything is fucked.
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Only thing that bothers me is it should be backside cab. Regular, nollie, switch, back 180 means your back is traveling forward as you do it. For some reason they fucked up naming fakie tricks.
A cab is a backside 360 in fakie. Your body and board spin in the exact same way fakie and regular.
Calling a fakie frontside cab/360 is spinning frontside and it makes sense to me.
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they're switch helipops
and your "fakie fs flip" is a switch half heli flip
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they're switch helipops
and your "fakie fs flip" is a switch half heli flip
holy shit I can't remember the last time I heard it called helipop!
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Only thing that bothers me is it should be backside cab. Regular, nollie, switch, back 180 means your back is traveling forward as you do it. For some reason they fucked up naming fakie tricks.
A cab is a backside 360 in fakie. Your body and board spin in the exact same way fakie and regular.
Calling a fakie frontside cab/360 is spinning frontside and it makes sense to me.
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I always hated when people called� varial heel's� heelflip shuvit
I hate it when people are right too.....but it doesn't eclipse the pain I feel every time someone says varial and I picture Tony Hawk throwing his board in the air like a baton.....
Vich flip around these parts was called 'my dick heel'
I mean techincally, you're correct
But you're telling me that you go around calling it a kickflip shuvit
sorry but nah, I'll take L and call it a varial
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360 flips used to be called "Ollie flips". Stop the madness.
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It's not really something that comes up a lot, but I always go with, "Front cab", "Frontside half-cab flip", etc. "Fakie 360" just sounds weird to me.
When's it's fakie bs/fs 360, I'm opting for full cab/fs full cab everytime
Fakie backside flip? Half cab flip. But when it comes to fakie frontside flips? Fakie frontside flip. My brain can't see it otherwise.
What did Reynolds do at West LA 12 in Baker 3? 180 over a planter with a no-push "fakie frontside flip".
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Heli Pop
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Correct: Caballerial - Fakie front 3 - Fakie front side flip - Varial heel
Incorrect : Full cab- Fakie Full cab- Fs Caballerial- ? Fs halc cab flip. Heel flip shuv it: ?
Based on the fact they all sound stupid as fuck. ?
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It's not really something that comes up a lot, but I always go with, "Front cab", "Frontside half-cab flip", etc. "Fakie 360" just sounds weird to me.
When's it's fakie bs/fs 360, I'm opting for full cab/fs full cab everytime
Fakie backside flip? Half cab flip. But when it comes to fakie frontside flips? Fakie frontside flip. My brain can't see it otherwise.
What did Reynolds do at West LA 12 in Baker 3? 180 over a planter with a no-push "fakie frontside flip".
This man gets it
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Half this thread comes off like those nimrods at the skatepark who can't get their head wrapped around what's frontside and what's backside.....
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Only thing that bothers me is it should be backside cab. Regular, nollie, switch, back 180 means your back is traveling forward as you do it. For some reason they fucked up naming fakie tricks.
I happen to have this very same conundrum.
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Only thing that bothers me is it should be backside cab. Regular, nollie, switch, back 180 means your back is traveling forward as you do it. For some reason they fucked up naming fakie tricks.
Fakie was invented prior to switch becoming a popular trend, therefore everything done fakie is viewed a opposite of doing it regs. For whatever reasons, this never gained traction with Nollie. My guess is because fakie was invented or at least primarily developed as a technique in vert/transition whereas nollie and switch mostly originated in street skating.
As for the debate over frontside flips? I'd call it a frontside half-cab flip, or in a front heel case, a frontside half cab heel. But, its not like calling it a fakie frontside flip is wrong.
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Great idea....while you're at it....make a point of calling fakie.....switch nollie.......
Fakie=backwards off of tail
Switch=backwards off nose
Cab=backwards off tail turning 180....
It wasn't really switch cab from what I remember it was 180 nollie.....
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Great idea....while you're at it....make a point of calling fakie.....switch nollie.......
Fakie=backwards off of tail
Switch=backwards off nose
Cab=backwards off tail turning 180....
It wasn't really switch cab from what I remember it was 180 nollie.....
You keep getting half cab and cab mixed up.
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they're switch helipops
and your "fakie fs flip" is a switch half heli flip
This! Also using the "frontside cab" logic cabs should be called switch backside helipops. ;D
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Who cares about cabs? As long as we all call back smiths monty grinds, all is good.
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When I was 15 I remember my friend being so stoked he filmed a "switch fakie ollie Smith grind revert" on a flat bar. I corrected him, but he said it sounded better his way...that's like claiming a frontside Indy
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Great idea....while you're at it....make a point of calling fakie.....switch nollie.......
Fakie=backwards off of tail
Switch=backwards off nose
Cab=backwards off tail turning 180....
It wasn't really switch cab from what I remember it was 180 nollie.....
You are quite right....I often say full cab for no good reason....it's redundant.....
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I learnt that cabs were only backside and thus always called them fakie frontside flips. hate all you want, but I (we?) grew up in the 90s and magazines (who were all over the place with their naming) were our only source of trick names. I blame this mostly! I mean fuck, when k-grinds first came out everyone was calling them "pointer grinds" and switch was "opposite stance". What about reverse nose drives and shit? No one uses those trick names anymore...
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Devil's advocate question(s):
- what do you all call the frontside version of a halfcab noseslide? I call them fakie front nose slides and I think that it makes perfect sense.
- what would you call half cab flips if cab never invented cabs/ half cabs? fakie backside flips no? take cab out of the equation and I think that also takes a lot of ambiguity out of naming fakie tricks that spin frontside/ backside
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They're called gay twists
Look it up
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Only thing that bothers me is it should be backside cab. Regular, nollie, switch, back 180 means your back is traveling forward as you do it. For some reason they fucked up naming fakie tricks.
A cab is a backside 360 in fakie. Your body and board spin in the exact same way fakie and regular.
Calling a fakie frontside cab/360 is spinning frontside and it makes sense to me.
You know why this conversation is impossible to have on the internet? Because people suck at articulating the definition of FS & BS spins in their head and just assume everyone thinks the same as them.
Let's break down the above as an example:
"A cab"
We all know what that is.
"is a backside 360"
Picture riding regular and doing a normal old BS 360. That's the definition of 'BS 360' in this instance.
"in fakie"
Now picture that exact same body and board motion doing the exact same BS 360 above, only this time you're skating the other way and of course are popping off your boards regular tail/switch nose, i.e. Fakie.
All of a sudden we're now defining a trick as BS, even though our body is doing what most definitions would class as a FS trick as the front of our body is the first 180 to spin in the direction we're moving.
Now perform the same exercise with the other 360 and we have FS Cabs.
Thus we're left with:
BS Cab
FS Cab
BS Half Cab
FS Half Cab
I assume the reason we drop the BS is because that was the first variation that earned the nickname Cabellarial, and FS was added to the opposite rotation to differentiate the trick without coining a whole new name.
Correct me if I'm wrong on any of the above.
Also,
Who cares about cabs? As long as we all call back smiths monty grinds, all is good.
Mono Rail grind or GTFO.
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When I was 15 I remember my friend being so stoked he filmed a "switch fakie ollie Smith grind revert" on a flat bar. I corrected him, but he said it sounded better his way...that's like claiming a frontside Indy
Who is calling me?
Going to the park today and start posing fakie fronside Indy caballerial flyouts!
just to fuck up the kids finding a name for it.
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frontside cab is a million times easier than backside cabs for me
Dude on flat - but going over distance, on Vert or down a Gap a fronside cab/ half cab
is much harder...
Fronside half cab was my to go trick back in the days for gaps, and i tried fronside caballerials for years in
my ramp. In a very low and mellow Mini i have done a couple to smith stop and I feel like a minirampchamp.
But never done a proper one in a +6 feet ramp.
Still sick move I dream to do..
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So, here is the million dollar question!
If you go fakie, ollie, rotate 360 degrees frontside, grab the board with your back hand on the toe side of the board, between the legs, what is it?
Ugly, that's what it is!
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I call every 360 an ollie-ver twist, they always want more 8)
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frontside cab is a million times easier than backside cabs for me
is much harder...
Fronside half cab was my to go trick back in the days for gaps, and i tried fronside caballerials for years in
my ramp. In a very low and mellow Mini i have done a couple to smith stop and I feel like a minirampchamp.
But never done a proper one in a +6 feet ramp.
Still sick move I dream to do..
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Frontside cab is under rated. Can anyone post a noteworthy example. First one that comes to mind is Kevin Romar but he does it nollie.
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frontside cab is a million times easier than backside cabs for me
is much harder...
Fronside half cab was my to go trick back in the days for gaps, and i tried fronside caballerials for years in
my ramp. In a very low and mellow Mini i have done a couple to smith stop and I feel like a minirampchamp.
But never done a proper one in a +6 feet ramp.
Still sick move I dream to do..
back this
Frontside cab is under rated. Can anyone post a noteworthy example. First one that comes to mind is Kevin Romar but he does it nollie.
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This is my favorite thread on Slap. No one knows anything its fantastic.
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frontside cab is a million times easier than backside cabs for me
is much harder...
Fronside half cab was my to go trick back in the days for gaps, and i tried fronside caballerials for years in
my ramp. In a very low and mellow Mini i have done a couple to smith stop and I feel like a minirampchamp.
But never done a proper one in a +6 feet ramp.
Still sick move I dream to do..
back this
Frontside cab is under rated. Can anyone post a noteworthy example. First one that comes to mind is Kevin Romar but he does it nollie.
This is my favorite thread on Slap. No one knows anything its fantastic.
What are you talking about?
I was giving an example of the closet thing I have seen to a fakie frontside cab?
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frontside cab is a million times easier than backside cabs for me
is much harder...
Fronside half cab was my to go trick back in the days for gaps, and i tried fronside caballerials for years in
my ramp. In a very low and mellow Mini i have done a couple to smith stop and I feel like a minirampchamp.
But never done a proper one in a +6 feet ramp.
Still sick move I dream to do..
back this
Frontside cab is under rated. Can anyone post a noteworthy example. First one that comes to mind is Kevin Romar but he does it nollie.
This is my favorite thread on Slap. No one knows anything its fantastic.
What are you talking about?
I was giving an example of the closet thing I have seen to a fakie frontside cab?
Oh my god I love it please keep going.
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frontside cab is a million times easier than backside cabs for me
is much harder...
Fronside half cab was my to go trick back in the days for gaps, and i tried fronside caballerials for years in
my ramp. In a very low and mellow Mini i have done a couple to smith stop and I feel like a minirampchamp.
But never done a proper one in a +6 feet ramp.
Still sick move I dream to do..
back this
Frontside cab is under rated. Can anyone post a noteworthy example. First one that comes to mind is Kevin Romar but he does it nollie.
The Legend
(http://media.giphy.com/media/hzQ8SO1cqTVuM/giphy.gif)
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^^
Yesssss thank you +1
That's so fucked
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Fakie ollie to switch back 3 over a picnic table? Goddamn.
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When I was 15 I remember my friend being so stoked he filmed a "switch fakie ollie Smith grind revert" on a flat bar. I corrected him, but he said it sounded better his way...that's like claiming a frontside Indy
Who is calling me?
Going to the park today and start posing fakie fronside Indy caballerial flyouts!
just to fuck up the kids finding a name for it.
HAHA!
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frontside cab is a million times easier than backside cabs for me
is much harder...
Fronside half cab was my to go trick back in the days for gaps, and i tried fronside caballerials for years in
my ramp. In a very low and mellow Mini i have done a couple to smith stop and I feel like a minirampchamp.
But never done a proper one in a +6 feet ramp.
Still sick move I dream to do..
back this
Frontside cab is under rated. Can anyone post a noteworthy example. First one that comes to mind is Kevin Romar but he does it nollie.
The Legend
(http://media.giphy.com/media/hzQ8SO1cqTVuM/giphy.gif)
stephop - your sig is what ive been picturing myself doing in my head every day for the past 15 years every time i drive and stare at sidewalks
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So all is settled then?
It's ok to call them whatever you want as long as you grab them?
What about half nabs?
Frontside only?
or is it ok to call a switch backside 3 a full nab?