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Title: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: ChuckRamone on April 21, 2017, 06:43:37 PM
Share some of your skating insights and secrets. The classic one is to stay centered over your board and commit to the trick. Easier said than done, of course.

Recently I realized that slappies and wallies are similar in a way. You relax your leg muscles before you hit the obstacle and at the right moment, as you're getting onto or over it, you have to flex/stiffen up a bit so your board stays with you as your grind the curb or clear the wall.

A lot of skating insights are muscular in nature and no amount of explaining can replace practice, but it's still interesting to hear about what others have discovered.
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Post by: Cinco on April 21, 2017, 06:58:50 PM
when I was a boy there was 9 planets, but now there are 90 planets.
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Post by: DaSk8D00D on April 21, 2017, 07:11:57 PM
Good thread idea I always like hearing other people's methods. Couple tips from me:


Your shoulders and upper body posture are as important as foot placement when it comes to setting up for certain tricks. A lot of times for myself (especially with grinds) I'll be trying a trick for a while and as soon as I focus on straightening my back or lining up/winding my shoulders properly, I get the trick.


If you wanna pop your ollies and tres higher, learn to do a really solid squat &  explode from the hips and thighs to send that energy all the way through the leg down to the tip of your toes. You gotta really learn to use the strength of your entire lower body,you do this with tres and make an effort to scrape the tip of your toe off the ground when you pop, they spin fast and pop high as shit. Just make sure you suck up your knees to make room for the board

For inward heels and back 180 heelflips, flick off the board just below the bolts, instead of the corner of the the board like with normal heelflips
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Post by: straight on April 21, 2017, 07:24:54 PM
shhh...
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Post by: Monkey_Mcpott on April 21, 2017, 07:35:37 PM
Stretch!!!

It still surprises me how much older skaters complain about pain but refuse to give stretching a try. It does wonders. Foam roller is also key. I typically stretch around 30 min before a session usually with some coffee, i feel it helps warm up my body along with the stretches.

I recently relearned kickflips from hearing Jeremy Wray's explanation of it. Criss crossing the pressure from feet to feet before you pop to creates a strong centered pop. If that makes any sense.  :-\

The more you hang your back toe on a 360 flip the easier it will pop.

You CANT be light footed on a hardflip, its a one of the tricks i feel i create the most pressure before popping out of any flip trick i can do. The more you create a centered pressure towards the back of your board the faster and easier it will flip. The flick is minimal.

When i do a nice leveled FS pop i feel I keep my upper body slightly back, for some reason i feel that helps me stay leveled on that trick  than staying completely centered or leaning forward.

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Post by: GinosGroceries on April 21, 2017, 07:39:45 PM
Tap your tail 3 times, tap the wall 3 times
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Post by: Buck Russell on April 21, 2017, 08:13:00 PM
i have a much easier time w/ almost all 180 variations (aside from reg backside and half cab) to think about popping an ollie/nollie/fakie ollie then doing the turn.

i think it was iizard king but someone kinda opened my eyes about kickflips like 2 decades after I learned them about doing a good ollie then kinda kicking off the front as an afterthought.

also 3 flips are almost entirely in the back foot scoop. half the time I do them without touching my tail (which is not something I'm proud of but it works).

and lots of people say to do good backside flips you just watch your back foot but that one never worked for me.

These are fun.
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Post by: sharkin on April 21, 2017, 08:28:32 PM
speed
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Post by: Dr. Octagon on April 21, 2017, 08:50:35 PM
go fast and keep your shoulders centered
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Post by: Chavo on April 21, 2017, 09:09:29 PM
Speaking of slappies, don't lift the front truck. Just ram right into it.

Also, most people (unconsciously) tend to hold their breath when doing a trick. Your breathing should follow a natural rhythm throughout. it may be necessary to force it a few times before it becomes second nature to breath normally.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Vert Reynolds on April 21, 2017, 09:38:23 PM
MJ say's Rodney kicked him some Mad Knowledge about a few Tricks. Mullen prolly whispered a trick tip to Antwuoine, That one time.
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Post by: sluggers on April 21, 2017, 09:39:34 PM
I have a feeling Rodney Mullen could write an entire book on this.

No one would be able to understand it, but it would be one helluva read.
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Post by: yapple dapple on April 22, 2017, 06:03:09 PM
I have a feeling Rodney Mullen could write an entire book on this.

No one would be able to understand it, but it would be one helluva read.
I just want to know what Rodney told Twaun about 360flips.
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Post by: 20matar on April 22, 2017, 06:04:16 PM
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I have a feeling Rodney Mullen could write an entire book on this.

No one would be able to understand it, but it would be one helluva read.
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I just want to know what Rodney told Twaun about 360flips.

It's like the ending to Lost in Translation, guess we'll never know.
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Post by: Dr-Feelgood on April 22, 2017, 07:21:18 PM
Great thread, i love reading other peoples suggestions, makes me wanna go try some of these techniques
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Post by: YALLNEEDJESUS on April 22, 2017, 07:26:58 PM
SKATEBOARDING IS MORE FUN WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO OLLIE. TOO MUCH FUCKIN EFFORT BRUH. MINIRAMP TRANNY SLAPPY FLATBAR
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Post by: johnes on April 22, 2017, 07:52:53 PM
If you clench your butt cheeks while skating you can really take the pressure off your knees
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Post by: dirty ol man on April 22, 2017, 08:01:48 PM
lifting/pulling the board up instead of just popping/jumping. the split second of harnessing power after crouching and pulling the board up with your ankles while extending your legs after popping. one of those "ah" moments after getting tricks back, especially being tall and avoiding flail.
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Post by: CRAILFISH TO REVERT on April 22, 2017, 08:06:55 PM
keep a small amount of toilet paper with you at all times
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Post by: Francis Xavier on April 22, 2017, 09:04:24 PM
3 flips are all in the back foot

Some nollie tricks are easier to learn if you point your heels towards each other and lean a little back when you pop so that shit boosts

Feebles are easy if you have pressure on your back truck and leave your front foot straight but limp(if that makes sense)

Hang your toes off your board to scoop a 180 while turning your shoulders into a nosegrind(switch 5-0) to grind and pop out perfectly
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Francis Xavier on April 22, 2017, 09:05:24 PM
Front crooks are just like front noseslides only you lean back to pop out
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Post by: Monkey_Mcpott on April 22, 2017, 09:28:19 PM
For nollie heels, for me, i cant pop straight down with this trick. I slightly nudge it forward before i pop the board if that makes sense. Its like I'm pushing a nose manual in front of me for a split second, then pop and then heelflip. When i started doing this the nollie heels got higher and leveled. Whenever I pop straight down I always rocket it. Same thing goes for fakie heels. This doesn't work for nollie flips though, that one you do pop straight down.
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Post by: Andrew on April 22, 2017, 09:48:02 PM
when bombing a hill, i like to envision what frank gerwer once said, which is to try your hardest to pretend like you're trying to stay rooted on the ground while someone is picking you up. pressure on the feet/board/ground
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Post by: MOE SYZLAK on April 22, 2017, 09:58:15 PM
Speaking of slappies, don't lift the front truck. Just ram right into it.

Also, most people (unconsciously) tend to hold their breath when doing a trick. Your breathing should follow a natural rhythm throughout. it may be necessary to force it a few times before it becomes second nature to breath normally.
I do this while filming or shooting photos  all the time, I find my self worn out after a few tries. I try to stop myself and breath deeply before and after each try but cant figure out how to fix it during.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Lasernaut on April 23, 2017, 02:14:30 AM
Try to slow down time with your mind, that always helped me. The 'lizard king kickflip' benefits greatly from this.
Also, if you acquire a little taste for shit, eating it won't be that bad.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Molte on April 23, 2017, 02:42:32 AM
Answering only the thread title: Zigram 23 is a human..

And this, is true pearls of wisdom
Try to slow down time with your mind, that always helped me. The 'lizard king kickflip' benefits greatly from this.
Also, if you acquire a little taste for shit, eating it won't be that bad.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Paul Cicero on April 23, 2017, 03:00:07 AM
When trying a manny trick, imagine yourself halfway through the trick right before you pop.
When doing a backside 180, don't take your eyes off your back foot.
When learning any manny (fakie, nose, whatever) always practice with a goal to reach.
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Post by: itspizzapie on April 23, 2017, 03:02:20 AM
riding a bike and doing squats helps a lot
also, think of checking if your bolts are firmly screwed from time to time, mine tend to get loose quite fast and that fucks up your pop
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Post by: Grind King Rims on April 23, 2017, 03:04:25 AM
Nollie backside / switch frontside scoop feels really good.

For backside 180 tricks, don't hunchback/lean over too much. Open your shoulders to where they should be when you land, before you pop.

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Post by: Grind King Rims on April 23, 2017, 03:04:45 AM
The motion of a wallie is much the same as trying to ghost ride your board into a manual. Don't pop into it, just lift the nose a bit and push it forward in front if you.

Nollie heel's, don't look over your toes too much, straighten your back and sit down a bit.

When you lock into a back crooked grind, put the pressure on your heels, both feet.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Fecal Fury on April 23, 2017, 03:59:33 AM
I'm a follower of the Church of Luan who in his wisest words once spoke:
"Go fast, eat shit"

I signed up after the fact so that I didn't feel so left out because all I do is go fast and I eat a tonne of shit.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: somethingmustbreaknow on April 23, 2017, 04:36:53 AM
when filming a trick, or a line and you gotta pee, you have to hold it in.
the urgent need having to piss will help you to land your banger faster
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Post by: Grind King Rims on April 23, 2017, 04:39:25 AM
Jerry Hsu says he never allows himself to jack off before a skate session because it lowers his energy or something and since I heard that, I've always thought the same.
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Post by: shit_for_brains on April 23, 2017, 05:02:14 AM
I jack off before every session because jacking off is the best
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Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on April 23, 2017, 05:15:58 AM
Odd one for anyone that has a hard time grinding flat round rails, even the big fat ones. Don't bend down much on the pop. Once I figured this out I could grind rails pretty easy.

Learning to nosemanual, it's helps alot to go fast.

This one might just be me but on switch or nollie heels, my front foot is actually pointing a tad backwards, and I. Also looking slightly backwards.

Backside flips are waaa�y easier going fast, as are good back 180s

If your having one of those "off kickflip days" , do a bunch fakie first. I find I stay more center on fakie flips and get more pop. After I do ten or so and switch back my kickflips are usually good to go

I could never do back 3s, any tips for those? Ive been able to do them switch for 15 years but I've never rode away from a clean regular one, and I wanna learn em so bad.

On front heels, every stance, lean back a tad at the pop but jump more forward (learned this from Pat channita)

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Post by: Swithflip on April 23, 2017, 05:49:39 AM
The secret of brazilian flick is board size 7.75 or 7.8.
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Post by: asakusa75 on April 23, 2017, 06:16:22 AM
I jack off before every session because jacking off is the best

I jack off anyway, regardless if there is a session going down or not.
In fact, jacking off usually is the session.
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Post by: Willie on April 23, 2017, 06:24:04 AM
On Rock and Rolls your shoulders should be halfway done the trick before you even start.
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Post by: Dwyck on April 23, 2017, 01:55:07 PM
when i struggle with tricks i go back thru "Skate Questions" to find a thread on them
uh also once you get going you dont really pump up transition. just down. that seems straightforward but it took me years
edit: wheelbase and nose/tail length are more important than width
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Post by: CRAILFISH TO REVERT on April 23, 2017, 02:28:54 PM
I jack off before every session because jacking off is the best

yea..for the perfect session; jack off, do some light stretching and consume 2 tall cans.
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Post by: Tracer on April 23, 2017, 03:45:23 PM
Stop filming street tricks at parks, the footage always looks like dogshit and it's inadmissible at skate court.

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Post by: Francis Xavier on April 23, 2017, 04:05:44 PM
Stop filming street tricks at parks, the footage always looks like dogshit and it's inadmissible at skate court.


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Post by: Dr-Feelgood on April 23, 2017, 04:21:20 PM
I actually love skating after about 3-6 beers, any more then that that and ill get sloppy on a board but 3 to 6 gives me that little bit of confidence booster, brain kind of turns off and stops worrying about things going south
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: shark tits on April 23, 2017, 04:24:02 PM
Stop filming street tricks at parks, the footage always looks like dogshit and it's inadmissible at skate court.


Tell Em Hawk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd4KLpRpHUA#)
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Post by: yapple dapple on April 23, 2017, 06:03:49 PM
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Stop filming street tricks at parks, the footage always looks like dogshit and it's inadmissible at skate court.


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Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Evisoon on April 23, 2017, 06:55:41 PM
good thread.
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Post by: fulfillthedream on April 23, 2017, 07:15:22 PM
there was a thread a few years back called "trick to the trick"


anyways my contribution to this one is for back side crooked grinds... always had em but never was able to land em until someone told me to use my shoulders to pop out.. as i've gotten older a lot of tricks really require a lot of concentration at first, weight distribution, foot placement etc.
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Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on April 23, 2017, 07:37:06 PM
there was a thread a few years back called "trick to the trick"


anyways my contribution to this one is for back side crooked grinds... always had em but never was able to land em until someone told me to use my shoulders to pop out.. as i've gotten older a lot of tricks really require a lot of concentration at first, weight distribution, foot placement etc.

Shit, for me it was don't grind so long at first. I learned em on a ten foot ledge and tried grinding the whole thing Everytime. By the time I got to the end I'd be leaning back too far.

Then one day I managed to stay completely over the board and popped out like nothing.

So for me it's just stay right over top the board, pressure the front foot a tad at the end and it pops out super easy, rather Tha. Just falling off the ledge.

Kalis trick. On high ledges just bone out an Ollie and grind 6" lol. Like a nosebonk.

Kickflip backside wallrides are super easy. Just find the right angle and do the exact same thing you do for a kicky back 50 50, but lean back a tad. Riding away takes some getting used to but sticking to the wall is easy. Kinda mindfuck to commit at first though.

Reynolds f/s flip, lean back Abit on the pop, Mike Carroll style lean forward and turn harder. Like turn your shoulders f/s before you even pop
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Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on April 23, 2017, 07:44:17 PM
always shit before a session, it makes you feel lighter.
for back 180 no complys, hang your front toes off the board a bit, makes getting that leg out of the way happen a lot quicker
***
more slappy and/ or backside powerslide tips please!
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Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on April 23, 2017, 08:21:04 PM
To practice slappies, approach the curb head on to learn how to smash into the curb, just lean back and turn/hit the curb.

Backside powerslides are in the toes. Turn quick and put all the weight on your toes. To come out straight, keep your head looking forward. To fakie, look more at the nose of your board, turn head and body to roll out.  Try on a painted section in a parking lot first, slides better. If your really game, try it on paint in a light rain. Prepare to eat shit a few times though
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Post by: Francis Xavier on April 23, 2017, 08:35:06 PM
To practice slappies, approach the curb head on to learn how to smash into the curb, just lean back and turn/hit the curb.

Backside powerslides are in the toes. Turn quick and put all the weight on your toes. To come out straight, keep your head looking forward. To fakie, look more at the nose of your board, turn head and body to roll out.  Try on a painted section in a parking lot first, slides better. If your really game, try it on paint in a light rain. Prepare to eat shit a few times though

Yup! Slappies are literally you slapping the curb,go fast and bash that shit...backside was easier for me to learn at first,especially 5-0s but it's all in figuring out how to use that momentum and weight distrubution. A good painted curb thats sorta small is a good start
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Post by: doublesteveburger on April 23, 2017, 08:47:15 PM
My broken logic: switch-tail slides are essentially nose-slides. Switch back-tails are just front nose-slides.

I know it doesn't make sense but it does to me.


Oh and jacking off is pretty much sex.
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Post by: pizzafliptofakie on April 23, 2017, 08:49:46 PM
I've got backside slappies pretty well, but frontside are alien to me. Backside at least feel sorta similar to backside grinds on transition.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: nowell on April 24, 2017, 12:49:09 AM
Dave grohl from the foo fighters used to be the drummer for nirvana
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: KoRnholio8 on April 24, 2017, 02:07:37 AM
The secret to skateboarding is that professionals actually train to get consistent and good and then go on to tell you in their interviews that it is totally not a sport. Smoke weed, get better somehow dunno
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Post by: Jollyoli on April 24, 2017, 02:22:28 AM
Make sure you can do at least five tricks before you challenge someone to a game of SKATE.
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Post by: swag nollies on April 24, 2017, 02:44:29 AM
Make sure you can do at least five tricks before you challenge someone to a game of SKATE.
When kids ask you to play SKATE at the park tell them you can only play SK8 and let them win. Because I cant make it through a game of SKATE without having to sit down and rest and smoke a cigarette.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: shit_for_brains on April 24, 2017, 03:46:38 AM
When little kids challenge me to skate I absolutely destroy them.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Iceman on April 24, 2017, 04:08:40 AM
When little kids challenge me to skate I absolutely destroy them.
the best is afterwards you feel like you were tricked into taking candy from a baby.
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Post by: AitchBeeGayBuh on April 24, 2017, 07:08:48 AM
Just remember, index finger counter-clockwise.

Do this until u achieve release.

Now you're ready to go skating.
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Post by: cosmicgypsies on April 24, 2017, 07:21:01 AM
if yer out skating and an axle nut goes kaput and you cant get it on/nobody has a spare/etc you can take a few pull tabs from a soda/beer/etc can and mangle it around the axle so you can atleast skate for the rest of the session. i have a friend who swears by putting stickers under baseplates because it """prevents pressure cracks""" - not sure how true that is apparently its from some koston setup video. tiny wax/candle shavings on bushings/in pivot cups stop the squeaking (i mean tiny amounts of wax), if you wanna loosen em up you can boil bushings too. always check your mounting bolts periodically so you dont fuck up the baseplates, if your mounting bolts on top get threaded (phillips/allen whatever) try folding some paper and putting it over the bolt then sticking the allen key in - just like prom night theres alot of blind poking until you find the hole but eventually it fits nice and tight. everytime you get a new deck (every 2/3 months for me) stick all your bearings in a bottle, fill it with citrus based cleaner thats covering the bearings and shake it for a bit, let it settle, shake again then drain, clean them off with a baby wipe or some shit, dry and lube em with speed cream or whatever you wanna use. look after your board and your board will probably make you eat shit as they are unsentinent wooden toys with no regard for your safety but it's nice to maintain your board.
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Post by: Fart Sounds on April 24, 2017, 08:06:38 AM
keep a small amount of toilet paper with you at all times

^^^ crucial life advice


less crucial: i struggled a long time with wallride nollies -- then i was told to pretend you're trying to like, kinda slappy noseslide up the wall. keep your weight where you would to a regular wallride, but put your front foot up on the nose, when you hit the wall, suck your legs up and the wall does all the hard work for you.
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Post by: Budo on April 24, 2017, 08:34:54 AM
If a skater feels more comfortable spinning Frontside regular, then often they'll feel more comfortable going Backside switch and vice versa, so I think of it as either being more comfortable going clockwise or counter-clockwise.

A good push is probably the most important "trick" that people rarely "practice".  Spend time pushing.
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Post by: j....soy..... on April 24, 2017, 09:17:55 AM
always shit before a session, it makes you feel lighter.
for back 180 no complys, hang your front toes off the board a bit, makes getting that leg out of the way happen a lot quicker
***
more slappy and/ or backside powerslide tips please!

Do like frontside carve, then backside carve like slalom....then quick frontside carve then when you do your backside...push down hard on your toes and whip your hips.....the quick frontside carve allows you to get your rhythm and counter into the bs.....

The other thing too is lean back super far.....what's gonna happen?  You're just gonna slide out... hipper worse case scenario...you can even put your back hand down....go to a polished concrete parking garage.....

My tip is that if you've found skateboarding.....you've won....
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Vitriol on April 24, 2017, 09:18:59 AM
Animal Chin hasn't seen anybody in 30 years...
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: ill_Murray on April 24, 2017, 09:48:57 AM
More pushes and less wax, gotta hear the truck on the ledge. 

For grinds, especially front truck stuff you want to jump into the grind, not onto it.  A lot of people pop up and come down on the ledge, what you want is to jump forward into the grind. 

Wallies you keep your mass over your front foot but keep your weight back then just think of it like your front wheels got invited to the party but your back wheels are crashing it. 

If you want to 180 out of nosegrinds hit the ledge at a little more of an angle and when you pop onto the ledge you want your shoulders already turning for the 180.  Oh and make sure you actually grind a bit of ledge, none of that bonk 180 lame shit.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: johnes on April 24, 2017, 11:00:45 AM
Cold stretching increases your chances of getting hurt
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: rails on April 24, 2017, 12:23:21 PM
did jerry hsu say anything about masturbating during the sk8 session
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: backinmyday on April 24, 2017, 02:33:58 PM
This is a true secret I need answered. Is it ok to put a legit board company sticker on a wood grain mini logo that has the little logo in the corner? I did it already out of boredom, didn't cover the mini logo area, but now I feel gross.
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Post by: backinmyday on April 24, 2017, 02:39:30 PM
Too late. I yanked it off and put it on my document thing for my office job. Pretty sure I'm gonna get yelled at for having a Baker sticker on my government job shit though.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: rubbery vagina on April 24, 2017, 02:46:04 PM
Too late. I yanked it off and put it on my document thing for my office job. Pretty sure I'm gonna get yelled at for having a Baker sticker on my government job shit though.

you dont even skate homeboy dont worry about it
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: backinmyday on April 24, 2017, 04:19:36 PM
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Too late. I yanked it off and put it on my document thing for my office job. Pretty sure I'm gonna get yelled at for having a Baker sticker on my government job shit though.
[close]

you dont even skate homeboy dont worry about it
You're right. Good looks.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: rubbery vagina on April 24, 2017, 04:23:15 PM
I think about this alot -- like how some people are really comfortable popping and spinning  either clockwise or counter clock wise. I can float switch ollies more naturally than regular, and regular backside is way more comfortable than frontside. My switch stance front foot can lead and guide the board easier than regular. Anyone know how to make your opposite front foot less dumb? Back crooks were always a pain in the ass but switch they are way easier to lock into and pop out of.

Someone mentioned to put more pressure on both heels when landing in a back crook -- that sounds like it could work.

And to add to the tips; kickflips seem pretty straightforward but they are easy to lose if you don't do them a lot. If I think about flicking my foot directly parallel with the direction my front shoulder is pointing than I get a pretty consistent flick -- keeps my shoulder aiming directly straight. This will really help you with switch shit too.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Dr-Feelgood on April 24, 2017, 04:31:05 PM
I think about this alot -- like how some people are really comfortable popping and spinning  either clockwise or counter clock wise. I can float switch ollies more naturally than regular, and regular backside is way more comfortable than frontside. My switch stance front foot can lead and guide the board easier than regular. Anyone know how to make your opposite front foot less dumb? Back crooks were always a pain in the ass but switch they are way easier to lock into and pop out of.

Someone mentioned to put more pressure on both heels when landing in a back crook -- that sounds like it could work.

And to add to the tips; kickflips seem pretty straightforward but they are easy to lose if you don't do them a lot. If I think about flicking my foot directly parallel with the direction my front shoulder is pointing than I get a pretty consistent flick -- keeps my shoulder aiming directly straight. This will really help you with switch shit too.

The amount of times i lost and regained kickflips is ridiculous, it seems every time i dont skate for a while and come back thats the one trick that takes forever to land, so frustrating
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Post by: MintySandwhich on April 24, 2017, 04:54:01 PM
Lift your front foot off the board first like a crane when doing impossibles
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Post by: Tracer on April 24, 2017, 05:25:39 PM
Skate every day or you're in for a 30 minute warmup every session.

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Post by: Dontfearthereefer on April 25, 2017, 03:42:47 AM
Learn flip tricks without looking at your feet, I read that in the Rongy Mulder book. I can beam 360 flips now
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Post by: bo golden on April 25, 2017, 04:05:22 AM
Skate every day or you're in for a 30 minute warmup every session.



Shit, more like an hour.
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Post by: thebacker on April 25, 2017, 07:36:13 AM
Odd one for anyone that has a hard time grinding flat round rails, even the big fat ones. Don't bend down much on the pop. Once I figured this out I could grind rails pretty easy.

Learning to nosemanual, it's helps alot to go fast.

This one might just be me but on switch or nollie heels, my front foot is actually pointing a tad backwards, and I. Also looking slightly backwards.

Backside flips are waaa�y easier going fast, as are good back 180s

If your having one of those "off kickflip days" , do a bunch fakie first. I find I stay more center on fakie flips and get more pop. After I do ten or so and switch back my kickflips are usually good to go

I could never do back 3s, any tips for those? Ive been able to do them switch for 15 years but I've never rode away from a clean regular one, and I wanna learn em so bad.

On front heels, every stance, lean back a tad at the pop but jump more forward (learned this from Pat channita)



For back 3's keep your shoulders a tad ahead of your feet and move in 1 motion. It also helps to put my toes on the middle of my tail and to pop straight down. Putting your feet parallel has helped me alot recently with them
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Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on April 25, 2017, 08:54:00 AM
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Odd one for anyone that has a hard time grinding flat round rails, even the big fat ones. Don't bend down much on the pop. Once I figured this out I could grind rails pretty easy.

Learning to nosemanual, it's helps alot to go fast.

This one might just be me but on switch or nollie heels, my front foot is actually pointing a tad backwards, and I. Also looking slightly backwards.

Backside flips are waaa�y easier going fast, as are good back 180s

If your having one of those "off kickflip days" , do a bunch fakie first. I find I stay more center on fakie flips and get more pop. After I do ten or so and switch back my kickflips are usually good to go

I could never do back 3s, any tips for those? Ive been able to do them switch for 15 years but I've never rode away from a clean regular one, and I wanna learn em so bad.

On front heels, every stance, lean back a tad at the pop but jump more forward (learned this from Pat channita)


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For back 3's keep your shoulders a tad ahead of your feet and move in 1 motion. It also helps to put my toes on the middle of my tail and to pop straight down. Putting your feet parallel has helped me alot recently with them

Thanks, I'll giver a go.

It's weird I can spin my shoulders so quick switch, but regular it feels like slow motion.

Hopefully this helps. I'll be happy to pull one in my life
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Post by: Jim and Dan on April 25, 2017, 11:05:07 AM
This one always escaped me for some reason, popping out of the middle of a ledge on bs/fs crooked grinds.

Advice please.

Also no-comply flips up curbs, anyone got the secret for that? I've heard you almost need to scoop a fs shuv but I can't get it to flip all the way.
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Post by: MintySandwhich on April 25, 2017, 11:10:04 AM
This one always escaped me for some reason, popping out of the middle of a ledge on bs/fs crooked grinds.

Advice please.

Also no-comply flips up curbs, anyone got the secret for that? I've heard you almost need to scoop a fs shuv but I can't get it to flip all the way.

For the no-comply flip off a curb, put your back foot on the toe-side pocket pointing forward. The key is to hit the toe-side of the tail on the curb first. That's what makes it flip. Hope that helps! Once you get em, you never lose it.
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Post by: Vitriol on April 25, 2017, 12:10:46 PM
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Skate every day or you're in for a 30 minute warmup every session.


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Shit, more like an hour.

Ah, ah!! Wait, i actually need to warm up off my board before i can warm up on it..
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Post by: pizzafliptofakie on April 25, 2017, 12:19:23 PM
You guys are so much better at giving trick tips than most pros doing trick tip videos. Motivated to learn something new after work today!
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Post by: Chuck Gender on April 25, 2017, 01:18:40 PM
Great thread!
For hardflips go fast an shove the hell out of your tail in a straightforward motion.  Don't concentrate in the flick, this will come automatically.

One trick I can't do is a proper fs smith on a ledge.  Can Do 5-0s and lipslides but still... Any advice would be great! 
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Post by: shit_for_brains on April 25, 2017, 02:57:31 PM
Great thread!
For hardflips go fast an shove the hell out of your tail in a straightforward motion.  Don't concentrate in the flick, this will come automatically.

One trick I can't do is a proper fs smith on a ledge.  Can Do 5-0s and lipslides but still... Any advice would be great! 

FS smiths on ledges are a 5-0 with a dropped nose, or a fucked up lipslide. Put your weight on your back truck like a 5-0 or lip but get that back truck on. It sounds oversimplified but I literally just got them back on ledges on Sunday and that's all I did.
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Post by: Buck Russell on April 25, 2017, 03:18:25 PM
I've got backside slappies pretty well, but frontside are alien to me. Backside at least feel sorta similar to backside grinds on transition.

yeah I always feel like I'm gonna fall backwards on front slappies. i never learned them at all until in my 30's but i got em one day and then instantly learned that slappy crooks is actually way easy and sorta teaches you the whole thing. getting that front truck on first is the biggest hurdle for most understanding slappies so you just get the ball of your foot in that little pocket there and as soon as ur about to hit the curb just lean onto it and it just goes.

funny cause they always looked so hard to me but now its just automatic.

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Great thread!
For hardflips go fast an shove the hell out of your tail in a straightforward motion.  Don't concentrate in the flick, this will come automatically.

One trick I can't do is a proper fs smith on a ledge.  Can Do 5-0s and lipslides but still... Any advice would be great! 
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FS smiths on ledges are a 5-0 with a dropped nose, or a fucked up lipslide. Put your weight on your back truck like a 5-0 or lip but get that back truck on. It sounds oversimplified but I literally just got them back on ledges on Sunday and that's all I did.

also this. i learned smiths after over a decade of not being able to do them just from my friend saying 'it's a low 5-0'. took me less than 10 tries after that to get it.
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Post by: youngbuck on April 25, 2017, 08:09:29 PM
I learned ss fs 360 on flat ground by tricking myself into thinking i was doing a caballerial.
Nollie kickfliping down curbs is the exact same as going really fast and doing them flatground
try to refrain from punching little kids that do pressure flips in games of skate; feel free to punch grown ass men who do pressure flips in games of skate
and with that pressure flips are like impossibles or 360 shuv its, but tweak your ankle into making your board do the inward heelflip
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Post by: straight on April 25, 2017, 08:21:04 PM
it all boils down to the perfect underwear
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Post by: Paco Supreme on April 25, 2017, 08:45:23 PM
I've got backside slappies pretty well, but frontside are alien to me. Backside at least feel sorta similar to backside grinds on transition.


Backside slappy's at least in my case are all back truck not front, that sort of micro rotate right as you unweight your feet is key.

Took me a while but this new curb spot got frontsides dialed in for me, it's at times almost like powersliding the back truck on
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Post by: tzhangdox on April 25, 2017, 11:27:16 PM
Great thread!
For hardflips go fast an shove the hell out of your tail in a straightforward motion.  Don't concentrate in the flick, this will come automatically.

One trick I can't do is a proper fs smith on a ledge.  Can Do 5-0s and lipslides but still... Any advice would be great! 

It probably won't work if you try to 5-0 and drop your nose afterwards. Most people lean back and point their front foot forwards a lot with smiths, its like the board is in front of them, like they are boning an ollie almost. If you ollie high and land in smith position it might be easy for the nose to drop too much and stick. It might be easier on something a little higher if you try it this way, ollie, and try to push your lower half out so that when youre in the grind, the board is a bit ahead of your body. Then make sure most of the weight is on your back foot while you straighten out your front foot and point with your front toe. Popping out is pretty straightforward.
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Post by: underknowledge on April 26, 2017, 03:45:38 AM
backsmith flip out = roll up, back smith, flip out, roll away...
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Post by: shit_for_brains on April 26, 2017, 03:56:37 AM
3 flips are easier if you can already do switch 3 flips
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Post by: Esquivel on April 26, 2017, 03:59:28 AM
To smith a ledge lean more to the side as well, not too much over the top like a 50 or 5-0. Going faster helps on this one, too. Just try aim the back truck and smash it in. Don't ollie too high, just enough to get you on the ledge.


Any tips for these would be greatly appreciated:


Bs smiths? I can do them sometimes depending on the ledge. Most of the time I just stick.

Front big spins? Regular or switch, I can't figure this one out at all. I can get one foot on switch ones every time. As soon as I commit it goes about 270, if that.

Front crooks make no sense either. I've been doing nose grinds and front nose slides for years and years. I get closer to fakie front crooks, because they feel easier to pinch. I think I've done more nollie ones accidentally, too.

For both bs and fs smiths: when you ollie pull back the front foot so that upon landing in the grind the foot is clearly placed behind the front bolts. Think of it as a similar motion to what people do when they ollie up something and their front foot is already in place for the next trick. This is going to help in actually grinding and not sticking on the smith. If you have a look at most really long smiths the front foot is placed close to the middle of the board! Not saying that smiths won't grind otherwise, just that this will help with the grind (and also with coming off the trick)
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: ttching! on April 26, 2017, 07:49:43 AM
backsmith flip out = roll up, back smith, flip out, roll away...

If you say 'doo' three times as you set up for a heelflip, you'll activate Antwuan style.

(https://media.tenor.co/images/c326634b553a8ad20c6142592d8fe01d/tenor.gif)
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Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on April 26, 2017, 07:54:50 AM
Sounds lame as fuck because it is, but if you wanna learn Smith grinds f/s or backside do them nollie to get the feel for it because it's 8000x easier.

Also, to hold a Smith you need gnarly good balance. Anymore than 2 or 3 feet is fucked up hard
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Post by: shark tits on April 26, 2017, 08:00:33 AM
there was a time in the late 90s when i could only smith downhill on metal. so like, contest rails and maybe a box going off a curb or skatepark hubba.
5-0s are easier downhill too, just ollie level and land w/ your weight towards the back a little and that's a downhill 5-0. you're level to ride off the end.

i'm still bad at smiths but i can prolly do em on any metal obstacle [i just don't choose to].
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Post by: straight on April 26, 2017, 08:02:32 AM
3 flips are easier if you can already do switch 3 flips

this is not the case for kickflips .. at least for me
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Post by: jamersonbass on April 26, 2017, 09:59:53 AM
I could use some kickflip insights.  The last time I had them consistently was 2 years ago.  Went out last night and got kicked out seemingly everywhere.  We ended up skating a lot of flat and I was trying to drill my kickflips and landed some, but was doing this weird thing where I would catch and land, and then my body would instinctively pivot fs off my nose leading to misses and ultimately, humility.... 

My 11 year old nephew 2 hours away just got a skateboard and I want to be able to show him some stuff, so I'm extra motivated to get my kickflips back.  HALP!
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Post by: Casey Jones on April 26, 2017, 10:37:12 AM
Smith grinds and feebles are essentially one-footed grinds. You just stand on your back leg completely.
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Post by: Chuck Gender on April 26, 2017, 11:13:39 AM
Smith grinds and feebles are essentially one-footed grinds. You just stand on your back leg completely.

Thanks for all the smith grind advices pals.  I am sure I will be landing my first one next session ;)
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Post by: metsuri on April 26, 2017, 11:32:39 AM
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Smith grinds and feebles are essentially one-footed grinds. You just stand on your back leg completely.
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Thanks for all the smith grind advices pals.  I am sure I will be landing my first one next session ;)

One more piece of fs smith advice; approach at an angle, not as parallel to the ledge as you would for a 5-0. That way it's easier to get into the right lean.
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Post by: mattchew on April 26, 2017, 11:34:59 AM
I too need smith advice, so thanks! been trying them on and off for a few months and have only done one proper one, all the others have been like, the shittiest looking 5-0's ever/totally undipped smiths.

A few different people have tried to explain them using the 5-0 analogy and it does not work for me at all. I have pretty damn good front 5-0's and trying to do a smith the same way just does not click for me--I feel like you have o lock in much differently on your truck.
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Post by: shit_for_brains on April 26, 2017, 11:39:16 AM
I too need smith advice, so thanks! been trying them on and off for a few months and have only done one proper one, al the others have been like, the shittiest loking 5-0's ever/totally undipped smiths.

A few different people have tried to explain them using the 5-0 analogy and it does not work for me at all. I have pretty damn good front 5-0's and trying to do a smith the same way just does not click the same way--I feel like you have o lock in much differently on your truck.

The 5-0 comparison comes in because you want to lean your weight back, like you would on a 5-0. It's about taking your front foot/truck out of the equation. You're locking your back truck and sort of one side of the middle of your board in using your back foot and your weight center, and keeping your weight off your front foot so you don't smush it down and stick.
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Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on April 26, 2017, 11:41:53 AM
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I too need smith advice, so thanks! been trying them on and off for a few months and have only done one proper one, al the others have been like, the shittiest loking 5-0's ever/totally undipped smiths.

A few different people have tried to explain them using the 5-0 analogy and it does not work for me at all. I have pretty damn good front 5-0's and trying to do a smith the same way just does not click the same way--I feel like you have o lock in much differently on your truck.
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The 5-0 comparison comes in because you want to lean your weight back, like you would on a 5-0. It's about taking your front foot/truck out of the equation. You're locking your back truck and sort of one side of the middle of your board in using your back foot and your weight center, and keeping your weight off your front foot so you don't smush it down and stick.

Yeah, it's like a manual, all back foot.

Do some on a curb and just stall to get the feeling
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Post by: metsuri on April 26, 2017, 11:49:03 AM
I too need smith advice, so thanks! been trying them on and off for a few months and have only done one proper one, al the others have been like, the shittiest loking 5-0's ever/totally undipped smiths.

A few different people have tried to explain them using the 5-0 analogy and it does not work for me at all. I have pretty damn good front 5-0's and trying to do a smith the same way just does not click the same way--I feel like you have o lock in much differently on your truck.

I don't think it's the same as 5-0 at all. I learned switch barley grinds by getting into a switch boardslide that's a bit tilted and worked my way to the grind. That has the same weight distribution.
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Post by: Budo on April 26, 2017, 01:09:02 PM
To smith a ledge lean more to the side as well, not too much over the top like a 50 or 5-0. Going faster helps on this one, too. Just try aim the back truck and smash it in. Don't ollie too high, just enough to get you on the ledge.


Any tips for these would be greatly appreciated:


Bs smiths? I can do them sometimes depending on the ledge. Most of the time I just stick.

Front big spins? Regular or switch, I can't figure this one out at all. I can get one foot on switch ones every time. As soon as I commit it goes about 270, if that.

Front crooks make no sense either. I've been doing nose grinds and front nose slides for years and years. I get closer to fakie front crooks, because they feel easier to pinch. I think I've done more nollie ones accidentally, too.

Firstly,  the more obvious part is that it is pretty much all in the back foot and you got to kick/shuv it out with a lot of force and also keep your front foot out of the way.  Second, the secret for me to finally land them was waiting longer than it felt natural to put my feet down.  Every time I land one it feels like I have to wait awkwardly long before finally putting my feet back on the board.  Besides donkey-kicking the back foot out and waiting a long time the rest of my body just feels like a regular FS 180.
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Post by: lampshade on April 26, 2017, 01:45:05 PM
Once you learn to gleam the cube everything else makes sense.
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Post by: spazz attack on April 26, 2017, 01:49:32 PM
Front side rock,use your toe.
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Post by: Vitriol on April 26, 2017, 02:42:38 PM
Front side rock,use your toe.
This ^, and peep your back heel. One of the few advice given to me that actually really helped me land a trick.
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Post by: Willie on April 26, 2017, 03:31:29 PM
Mctwists are easier with a slight alley oop.



Not that I'd know from experience but Birdman said so.
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Post by: shark tits on April 26, 2017, 03:38:58 PM
Mctwists are easier with a slight alley oop.



Not that I'd know from experience but Birdman said so.
if birdman sees you on his real estate, birdman will kick your ass. birdman will kick you ass.
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Post by: Fecal Fury on April 26, 2017, 05:11:12 PM
1080's on a quarter are way easier to learn Fakie as you return facing in your normal stance.

You've welcome. :)
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Post by: ill_Murray on April 26, 2017, 09:49:36 PM
Kinda dumb because its obvious but I did nothing but push switch going from spot to spot for the last 6 months and it's helped my switch game so much
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Post by: Esquivel on April 27, 2017, 01:48:05 AM
^FUCK. YES.

strong switch leading foot gets stronger
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Post by: Grind King Rims on April 27, 2017, 03:36:48 AM
I think that's what I gotta do. And you get the added fun of being transported back to when you were first figuring out skateboarding.
Thanks pals.
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Post by: DaSk8D00D on April 27, 2017, 08:51:55 AM
Kinda dumb because its obvious but I did nothing but push switch going from spot to spot for the last 6 months and it's helped my switch game so much

This is another good one a lot of times I'll even skate back down the run up switch if I'm trying a trick over & over again. It's definitely made me a lot more comfortable riding around switch & requires very minimal effort
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Post by: shark tits on April 27, 2017, 08:56:00 AM
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Kinda dumb because its obvious but I did nothing but push switch going from spot to spot for the last 6 months and it's helped my switch game so much
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This is another good one a lot of times I'll even skate back down the run up switch if I'm trying a trick over & over again. It's definitely made me a lot more comfortable riding around switch & requires very minimal effort
ha, i usedta do that too. i do almost 'laps' switch, like i warm up backwards and doing little swollies and i nollie off a curb a million X a night. i have been pushing switch for almost 20 yrs but jumping switch is what builds the muscles. as someone mentioned above, pushing switch weighs on your new front leg more than your new pusher.
symmetrically legg-ed friends of mine had switch ledge and flatground guns so i've slowly been incorporating that into my skillset.
as jake phelps said so long ago 'switchstance is opening up new ways of looking at the world' and as such i can do lots of stuff switch in my waking life.
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Post by: slappies on April 27, 2017, 08:57:14 AM
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To smith a ledge lean more to the side as well, not too much over the top like a 50 or 5-0. Going faster helps on this one, too. Just try aim the back truck and smash it in. Don't ollie too high, just enough to get you on the ledge.


Any tips for these would be greatly appreciated:


Bs smiths? I can do them sometimes depending on the ledge. Most of the time I just stick.

Front big spins? Regular or switch, I can't figure this one out at all. I can get one foot on switch ones every time. As soon as I commit it goes about 270, if that.

Front crooks make no sense either. I've been doing nose grinds and front nose slides for years and years. I get closer to fakie front crooks, because they feel easier to pinch. I think I've done more nollie ones accidentally, too.
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Firstly, �the more obvious part is that it is pretty much all in the back foot and you got to kick/shuv it out with a lot of force and also keep your front foot out of the way. �Second, the secret for me to finally land them was waiting longer than it felt natural to put my feet down. �Every time I land one it feels like I have to wait awkwardly long before finally putting my feet back on the board. �Besides donkey-kicking the back foot out and waiting a long time the rest of my body just feels like a regular FS 180.

When I was trying to learn them I found I put too much focus on making the board itself spin around, I ended up doing some wild 720 shuv and the board would land 2 feet behind me. I find if I just do a front 180 and put a little more oomph on the board it does a f/s shuv and comes around with me. Just watch MC do them a bunch, it honestly helps.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Made In China on April 27, 2017, 11:38:55 AM
I watched this over and over for Bobby's switch heel because he has some weird ass foot placement and an amazing switch heel. When I went out and tried it like him, I actually figured it out and landed a few :')

https://www.instagram.com/p/BTKreTtFnEV/?taken-by=gx1000&hl=en (https://www.instagram.com/p/BTKreTtFnEV/?taken-by=gx1000&hl=en)
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: MintySandwhich on April 27, 2017, 02:14:32 PM
Anyone got tips for front crooks. I can always get into them but can never hold it long enough. I get to the "pinch" part but always stop. idk
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: tura on April 27, 2017, 02:17:27 PM
Good topic! I'm hyped to go skate. Here's a few things I've noticed--

Flick kickflips straighter rather than off the side to get em to turn backside (backside flips, kickflip backside grinds, flip front boards etc)

Bigspin flips are just backside flips with a scoop.

Nollie heelflip: Stay square on your board, rather than pointing yourself forward like with a straight nollie, to keep it flat. I find when my feet are pointed forwards that's when my board goes for the nuts.

Frontside 360: Try not to hang the your front toes, even though it feels better to for the windup.

No-comply flip: Just do it like a no-comply shuvit. The board hitting the curb on a slight angle is what makes it flip

Front crooks: Try have minimal heel hanging off when you pop. Back foot does fuck all, just keep it out of the way.

Front nose: Make sure to tip-toe the front foot. Underturn it slightly like a front crook to make it slide better.

5-0 180 (both ways) can be done like tailslide fakies, just a prolonged 180 turn that incorporates the ledge. Once you get that down it's easy to learn to sit on them.

Switch heel grind: I've found the trick is to sit your back foot in the heel side pocket, rather than the tip of the tail, then after popping, kick your back foot behind you, the opposite side to your front foot (almost like you're doing a switch tre). It feels strange but it's the only way I've ever managed to do it.

Bigspin front board: I do it like I'm gonna do a pop shuv front crooks. It gets my front truck over the rail, and into a sloppy willy-style front board that naturally continues the rotation once I'm sliding. Because I don't do it like a bigspin, my shoulders stay straight and I get a nice front board. If i do it like a bigspin, my back truck usually hits the rail cause of too much scoop, and even if I do make it up, it's a sloppy front board.

Front board pop out fakie: Aim to pop out into a back 180 nosegrind

Kickflip over something: I've found that there's two ways to do this. You can either Jeremy Wray it by having your foot all the way on your board. This will pop it high, but it will flip much slower so you gotta tuck your knees up. This way works better if you got a bump. The other way is to late flick it. Have your foot a little further off, and flick once your ollie is starting to even out. These ones are more easy to control but are less wild.

Nollie backside heel: Speed and late flick. Flick a little more off the side than a straight nollie heel so you don't kick it into a nollie bigheel

Shuvit flip: Back foot pop shove, front foot kickflip makes it nice and poppy. If you do the flip and the shove with the front foot you end up with a little kid looking one.

Backside powerslide: Dip your head in when you're learning so that if you fuck up you'll end up doing a 180 one instead of getting pitched. This way you learn to hold on to them early on too
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Post by: FakieFlipCG on April 27, 2017, 02:28:58 PM
Anyone got tips for front crooks. I can always get into them but can never hold it long enough. I get to the "pinch" part but always stop. idk

I had a similar problem while learning them.  I focus on leaning back,  keeping the weight on my front foot equal throughout my foot if not more on the heel-side, and keeping my shoulders square with the ledge/rail.

ex.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8zalJ5ty9s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8zalJ5ty9s)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLIM3WgMp3U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLIM3WgMp3U)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzxXIg7S4qc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzxXIg7S4qc)
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: FakieFlipCG on April 27, 2017, 02:41:20 PM
wallride:
    - keep your body loose
    - imagine doing a kickturn on a steep quarterpipe or bank

back 360:
    - don't even think about using your front foot. Simply tuck your knee/lift your front foot straight up to get it out of the way after you pop
    - don't pop until your upper body is already rotated at least 90 degrees
    - if you can bigspin or impossible, I'm confident you can back 3

back smith:
    - to prevent stickage, ollie earlier/gap into the ledge so you get on smoothly instead of trying to hop on immediately
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: smellsdead on April 27, 2017, 02:46:32 PM
Front crooks - foot on two front bolts pop and smash your foot down on while leaning back but all your weight on the front foot
Loosening your trucks will help you land stuff
Wax your wheelbite spots
Mind over matter, youre in control
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: FakieFlipCG on April 27, 2017, 02:48:48 PM
all your weight on the front foot

Didn't even think about it, but I second this.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: tura on April 27, 2017, 02:54:25 PM
wallride:
    - keep your body loose
    - imagine doing a kickturn on a steep quarterpipe or bank


Yah I pretend there's a small transition at the bottom of the wall. It's almost as if the imaginary transition is created by the triangle of your board when the front trucks are on the wall and back trucks still on the ground, and then you ride that onto the wall. Sounds a little schizophrenic but it works.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Fecal Fury on April 27, 2017, 04:14:09 PM
Who's got the juice on FS Ollies in transition ala Grant Taylor? Or just FS Airs at all......
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: smellsdead on April 27, 2017, 04:31:22 PM
Who's got the juice on FS Ollies in transition ala Grant Taylor? Or just FS Airs at all......
Imagine popping over a pyramid/flybox/curbcut how you stay over top of your board leaning forward, now put the ramp vertical...same thing but different.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: JumpManShorty on April 27, 2017, 04:45:44 PM
Not a tip but that Insta vid that strobeckk uploaded of Pablo doing a back 3 in slow motion really incorporates what you guys have been saying. His body has turned 180 before the board even lifts
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Allez_Jambon on April 27, 2017, 06:54:42 PM
for ledges with skate stoppers drilled in, heat them up with burning mulch to soften them up then knock them shits out with a hammer

when you wax a ledge, rub a tall can over that shit to even out the wax

when you visit china, always keep a travel size pack of kleenex
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: ducky darnsworth on April 27, 2017, 07:12:34 PM
wear a suit to skate business buildings, so when security comes you can hide the board and claim you were on a smoke break and the skate rascal went the other way
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: tura on April 27, 2017, 08:48:59 PM
Sticking on front crooks usually means you're popping too high. You gotta ollie so you just get on it, and sort of push it forwards like a melon tweaker rather than popping up. It's one of those tricks that is sometimes easier on a taller ledge for that reason.
Otherwise, you could be putting too much weight on the heel side. They tend to grind best when your weight is over toward the ledge (try and think of the back foot in the iconic front crook position, dangling off and almost gripped around the toe side. This should give you a good idea of where your weight should be)

While we're on front crooks, anyone know the secret for a good pop out? I can sorta yank it out like a front nose, but whenever i try do the little nollie pop thing like on a nosegrind or backside crook i either get a ruthless air foot or the board does this sketchy rocket nollie flip
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Hefe43 on April 27, 2017, 11:09:46 PM
for ledges with skate stoppers drilled in, heat them up with burning mulch to soften them up then knock them shits out with a hammer

Elaborate a little...a bag of mulch?

Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on April 28, 2017, 06:49:47 AM
Sticking on front crooks usually means you're popping too high. You gotta ollie so you just get on it, and sort of push it forwards like a melon tweaker rather than popping up. It's one of those tricks that is sometimes easier on a taller ledge for that reason.
Otherwise, you could be putting too much weight on the heel side. They tend to grind best when your weight is over toward the ledge (try and think of the back foot in the iconic front crook position, dangling off and almost gripped around the toe side. This should give you a good idea of where your weight should be)

While we're on front crooks, anyone know the secret for a good pop out? I can sorta yank it out like a front nose, but whenever i try do the little nollie pop thing like on a nosegrind or backside crook i either get a ruthless air foot or the board does this sketchy rocket nollie flip

That means your not centered over the board. When you are, pressure on the front foot and just a lil hop and it pops out. Way easier to learn at the end of a ledge as opposed to mid ledge. It's fuckin hard to pop outta that that trick mid ledge
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Fecal Fury on April 28, 2017, 12:54:18 PM
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Who's got the juice on FS Ollies in transition ala Grant Taylor? Or just FS Airs at all......
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Imagine popping over a pyramid/flybox/curbcut how you stay over top of your board leaning forward, now put the ramp vertical...same thing but different.

I just rolled my ankle asshole. That tip was shittier than an amateur anal porn actors penis.
  >:(
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: roba on April 28, 2017, 02:30:12 PM
I learned ss fs 360 on flat ground by tricking myself into thinking i was doing a caballerial.
Nollie kickfliping down curbs is the exact same as going really fast and doing them flatground
try to refrain from punching little kids that do pressure flips in games of skate; feel free to punch grown ass men who do pressure flips in games of skate
and with that pressure flips are like impossibles or 360 shuv its, but tweak your ankle into making your board do the inward heelflip

damn, i've been trying to learn ss fs 360s for some time and never thought of doing it like this

also, any 180 trick is easier at higher speed because they automatically straighten if you land crooked
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: iwishilivedinfinla on April 29, 2017, 05:11:49 AM
always jerk off first
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Mark Renton on April 29, 2017, 01:27:47 PM
Kickflip: the only way I seem to have them kinda consistent is flipping them after I pop an ollie.. sometimes I get T-Puds flips sometimes the board won't flip, like a straight no comply, and I don't look very smart.. seriously frustrating trick.

Nollie flip/sw flip: the key for me is in 'duck feet'. I go full penguin mode and put them very angled, front foot in the pocket.

Throw on here your knowledge on transition skating, I'm trying to get better at it. Today I learned fs 5050 on a small quarter.
Bs disaster is a bit intimidating. I can do them frontside but I still can figure them out backside. Sometimes I try them as a over rotated bs smith but the hang up factor is high, so yeah what do you suggest?
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on April 29, 2017, 03:10:10 PM
a lot of peoples issue with learning back disasters is that they're trying it on the mellowest ramp at the park, which seems rational (smaller = safer) but if you're trying it on a 3 foot ramp thats basically a bank its not gonna work correctly. that was my issue at first, at least. i had absolutely no clue how to do them and it felt completely foreign, and once i tried it on a slightly bigger ramp it worked perfectly. its a really weird motion to learn but once you do its pretty intuitive after that.

how bout this one pals???? backside tailslide on transition? I've been able to do them on ledges for many many moons but on a ramp feels so out of reach. even doing a backside tailstall on a qp sometimes doesnt even feel natural. i have friends that can do them and can't do them on ledges and it looks so natural and fun.



I use the similar technique for both. You wanna learn using a sweep style back 180. Like when you sweep and turn, not pop.

Both tricks are actually very easy and once you get it it's basically on lock

This also works for backtails on lower ledges/curbs. Just be centered because it will slide waxed or not
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: StinkyLarry on April 29, 2017, 04:46:20 PM
a lot of peoples issue with learning back disasters is that they're trying it on the mellowest ramp at the park, which seems rational (smaller = safer) but if you're trying it on a 3 foot ramp thats basically a bank its not gonna work correctly. that was my issue at first, at least. i had absolutely no clue how to do them and it felt completely foreign, and once i tried it on a slightly bigger ramp it worked perfectly. its a really weird motion to learn but once you do its pretty intuitive after that.

how bout this one pals???? backside tailslide on transition? I've been able to do them on ledges for many many moons but on a ramp feels so out of reach. even doing a backside tailstall on a qp sometimes doesnt even feel natural. i have friends that can do them and can't do them on ledges and it looks so natural and fun.



Try focusing on getting into a 5-0 and then last second scoop into the back tail, scoop it reeeaaally late like straight feel getting on top of the coping sitting on a 5-0 then scoop 90. I can't actually slide them for shit but I can at least get into a stall, whenever i dont think about it like that and try to get "directly into back tail" i end up stalling a foot below the coping and slipping out. hope that helps.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on April 30, 2017, 05:53:02 AM
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damn, i've been trying to learn ss fs 360s for some time and never thought of doing it like this
I just learnt ss fs 360 powerslides yesterday and yeah, if you wind up like a cab, they come pretty easy. maybe I'll try the ollie version next?
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on April 30, 2017, 06:13:34 AM
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damn, i've been trying to learn ss fs 360s for some time and never thought of doing it like this
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I just learnt ss fs 360 powerslides yesterday and yeah, if you wind up like a cab, they come pretty easy. maybe I'll try the ollie version next?

Lol, that's harder than a cab Imo
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Pillsbury Doughboy on April 30, 2017, 11:23:14 AM
I've been working on the timing of the jump so I can get my tricks higher. Any tips on timing like when to jump and pop? I would really appreciate it.

For Kickflips, I focus on dragging my foot straight forward like how you level out an ollie but instead of doing it in the center of the nose, I do it right through the pocket. The closer my drag through the center of the nose, the more it bones out.

For Fs Smiths, I make sure I push the nose forward as I'm about to get on the ledge.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on April 30, 2017, 11:56:17 AM
a lot of peoples issue with learning back disasters is that they're trying it on the mellowest ramp at the park, which seems rational (smaller = safer) but if you're trying it on a 3 foot ramp thats basically a bank its not gonna work correctly. that was my issue at first, at least. i had absolutely no clue how to do them and it felt completely foreign, and once i tried it on a slightly bigger ramp it worked perfectly. its a really weird motion to learn but once you do its pretty intuitive after that.

how bout this one pals???? backside tailslide on transition? I've been able to do them on ledges for many many moons but on a ramp feels so out of reach. even doing a backside tailstall on a qp sometimes doesnt even feel natural. i have friends that can do them and can't do them on ledges and it looks so natural and fun.



 I was gonna make almost the exactly same post as this, same tricks and all, haha. Another tip for back disasters is that you have to pop earlier than you would think. Otherwise you just sit on top and it looks bad, or you don't get into it at all. Same for back lips, just at an angle.


I really wanna learn back tailslides on ramps cuz they look super fun. I can stall them really well and can even do back crails, but no matter how much of an angle I go or how fast I seem to just stop dead in my tracks.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: behavioralguide on April 30, 2017, 11:57:18 AM
I watched this over and over for Bobby's switch heel because he has some weird ass foot placement and an amazing switch heel. When I went out and tried it like him, I actually figured it out and landed a few :')

https://www.instagram.com/p/BTKreTtFnEV/?taken-by=gx1000&hl=en (https://www.instagram.com/p/BTKreTtFnEV/?taken-by=gx1000&hl=en)

(http://i65.tinypic.com/4tpx05.jpg)
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on April 30, 2017, 12:29:05 PM
Not sure who said the inward heelflip tip but it actually works!

It's still too ahead of my level but, I'm actually really close to landing them fakie. 
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Tracer on April 30, 2017, 12:58:33 PM
Always carry cash

Sponsored homies show up with a box, it's like a feeding frenzy. Plus they need the $.

Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: kook nukem on April 30, 2017, 01:00:59 PM
The no jacking off thing before skating is real, whether it's mental or not. I'll even avoid sex the night before skating sometimes. I guess a good sesh outweighs hormones a bit as you get older.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Paul Cicero on April 30, 2017, 02:56:11 PM
The no jacking off thing before skating is real, whether it's mental or not. I'll even avoid sex the night before skating sometimes. I guess a good sesh outweighs hormones a bit as you get older.

LOL, you're kidding right?
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: DaSk8D00D on April 30, 2017, 03:41:00 PM
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The no jacking off thing before skating is real, whether it's mental or not. I'll even avoid sex the night before skating sometimes. I guess a good sesh outweighs hormones a bit as you get older.
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LOL, you're kidding right?

Yoooo who's mans is this?(http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/mjlol.png)


"Sorry babe, not tonight. I'm going filming with the boys tomorrow and I gotta be at my best" (http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/smugbiden.png)


Shorty sitting there spread eagle like (http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/gucci3.png)

"Well then what about tomorrow night?" (http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/usure.png)

"Shiiiiiit, I was gonna skate the day after that too" (http://www.thecoli.com/data/emoticons/5/fdf7167469b57f177edbf7a9e3eec5f5.png?t=1483245703)
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Dr-Feelgood on April 30, 2017, 04:50:39 PM
The no jacking off thing before skating is real, whether it's mental or not. I'll even avoid sex the night before skating sometimes. I guess a good sesh outweighs hormones a bit as you get older.

I was gonna make a joke about you being a virgin but ahh yeah no.
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/106PwpLIIXJnXi/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on April 30, 2017, 06:25:56 PM
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The no jacking off thing before skating is real, whether it's mental or not. I'll even avoid sex the night before skating sometimes. I guess a good sesh outweighs hormones a bit as you get older.
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I was gonna make a joke about you being a virgin but ahh yeah no.
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/106PwpLIIXJnXi/giphy.gif)

🙏🙏🙏
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: perverted super otaku! on April 30, 2017, 07:07:38 PM
if its a trick you've been wanting to get forever, and you get it, it might get you off more than boning a girl you know for the 49th time, especially if it's a lifetime achievement trick, even the Olympians in ancient Greece knew busting off too much makes you less gnar
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: ducky darnsworth on April 30, 2017, 07:50:26 PM
with this logic, all of the biggest hammers would go down during no fap november
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: ChuckRamone on April 30, 2017, 08:59:38 PM
with this logic, all of the biggest hammers would go down during no fap november

november is also national novel writing month. you might be able to film some hammers AND write a novel. you'll just be really horny and frustrated all month. but come december you'll get to blow the best load of your life. it would be like ho-ly fuck hnng.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: swag nollies on April 30, 2017, 09:11:22 PM
Does no fap November include analy stimulated hands free orgasms?
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on April 30, 2017, 09:14:03 PM
When I was way young, hometown hero used to tout the no sex/masturbation before a serious session. He was an idiot though, and used to hold his piss as long as he could so it felt amazing when he finally went. He called it a pissgasm.  
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: swag nollies on April 30, 2017, 09:21:39 PM
Ive been known to do shitgasms everynow and then... holding in one right now.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: shark tits on April 30, 2017, 09:34:58 PM
When I was way young, hometown hero used to tout the no sex/masturbation before a serious session. He was an idiot though, and used to hold his piss as long as he could so it felt amazing when he finally went. He called it a pissgasm.  
sweet lou?
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on April 30, 2017, 09:39:38 PM
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When I was way young, hometown hero used to tout the no sex/masturbation before a serious session. He was an idiot though, and used to hold his piss as long as he could so it felt amazing when he finally went. He called it a pissgasm.  
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sweet lou?

yep.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: kook nukem on April 30, 2017, 09:42:46 PM
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The no jacking off thing before skating is real, whether it's mental or not. I'll even avoid sex the night before skating sometimes. I guess a good sesh outweighs hormones a bit as you get older.
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LOL, you're kidding right?
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Yoooo who's mans is this?(http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/mjlol.png)


"Sorry babe, not tonight. I'm going filming with the boys tomorrow and I gotta be at my best" (http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/smugbiden.png)


Shorty sitting there spread eagle like (http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/gucci3.png)

"Well then what about tomorrow night?" (http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/usure.png)

"Shiiiiiit, I was gonna skate the day after that too" (http://www.thecoli.com/data/emoticons/5/fdf7167469b57f177edbf7a9e3eec5f5.png?t=1483245703)

Haha nahh, I definitely have never let my lady know this. I just subtly avoid advances if I feel I'm going to benefit from abstaining. Again, I've got  nothing to really base this theory off, and it's probably purely mental at this point, but I feel more general focus if I don't bust for a while. I've heard this method used in several sports, etc., so I know it's not just me.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on April 30, 2017, 09:43:55 PM
Not sure who said the inward heelflip tip but it actually works!

It's still too ahead of my level but, I'm actually really close to landing them fakie.�
fakie inward heels are easier than regular ones imho because you can pop/ flick in the same single motion. for regular ones I feel like you have to ollie first and the heave your leg off to the side way later. Also use J GWray's theory for pop on this trick; back toe should be right in the back pocket to create sufficient leverage
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: straight on April 30, 2017, 09:56:41 PM
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The no jacking off thing before skating is real, whether it's mental or not. I'll even avoid sex the night before skating sometimes. I guess a good sesh outweighs hormones a bit as you get older.
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LOL, you're kidding right?
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Yoooo who's mans is this?(http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/mjlol.png)


"Sorry babe, not tonight. I'm going filming with the boys tomorrow and I gotta be at my best" (http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/smugbiden.png)


Shorty sitting there spread eagle like (http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/gucci3.png)

"Well then what about tomorrow night?" (http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/usure.png)

"Shiiiiiit, I was gonna skate the day after that too" (http://www.thecoli.com/data/emoticons/5/fdf7167469b57f177edbf7a9e3eec5f5.png?t=1483245703)
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Haha nahh, I definitely have never let my lady know this. I just subtly avoid advances if I feel I'm going to benefit from abstaining. Again, I've got  nothing to really base this theory off, and it's probably purely mental at this point, but I feel more general focus if I don't bust for a while. I've heard this method used in several sports, etc., so I know it's not just me.
(https://i.imgur.com/6SCquEa.gif)
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on April 30, 2017, 10:05:10 PM
it is an actual a thing (anyone out there studying yogic philosophy?) and while I used to subscribe to it in my early 20s there's no way I'm knocking back sex at my age in the hope that I'll land some trick I haven't had on lock for the last 10 years anyway :-[
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: shark tits on April 30, 2017, 10:13:01 PM
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When I was way young, hometown hero used to tout the no sex/masturbation before a serious session. He was an idiot though, and used to hold his piss as long as he could so it felt amazing when he finally went. He called it a pissgasm.  
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sweet lou?

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yep.
hahaha, i guess it worked out?
like gism said, there is some truth to the theory, whether yogic or fruedian. in freud's people who prolong the feeling of taking a shit so they can enjoy it later are 'anal retentive' and supposedly our will to do everything is misplaced 'libidinal energy' but i think he was just goofing w/ the pissgasms. that or adding his own spin, if A is this, B is that then C also works.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on April 30, 2017, 10:14:39 PM
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Not sure who said the inward heelflip tip but it actually works!

It's still too ahead of my level but, I'm actually really close to landing them fakie.�
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fakie inward heels are easier than regular ones imho because you can pop/ flick in the same single motion. for regular ones I feel like you have to ollie first and the heave your leg off to the side way later. Also use J Gray's theory for pop on this trick; back toe shoe be in the back pocket to create leverage

Oh definitely easier fakie. But, I went from flinging everywhere to a solid 1 foot land
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: CBerger on May 12, 2017, 06:47:40 PM
Can someone please break down back tails.  I've been skating 20 years and never got them locked and now I just fling at it.  Where should I be looking or have my head.  in front toward the ledge? down at my back foot?
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on May 12, 2017, 07:06:18 PM
Can someone please break down back tails.  I've been skating 20 years and never got them locked and now I just fling at it.  Where should I be looking or have my head.  in front toward the ledge? down at my back foot?

On a low ledge, scoop the tail and face the upper left bolt roughly.

On a higher ledge, pop 90 and do the same fuckin thing.

To come out fakie be looking at the right bolt

Im regs so reverse this if goofy
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Tracer on May 12, 2017, 08:15:29 PM
Learn back tail stalls on curbs until you're confident sliding it. The hardest part is a clean entry...
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Chuck Gender on May 12, 2017, 10:59:38 PM
The no jacking off thing before skating is real, whether it's mental or not. I'll even avoid sex the night before skating sometimes. I guess a good sesh outweighs hormones a bit as you get older.

According to several studies on this topic (mostly related to soccer /running) there should be no effect on your performance if you had sex the night before. It was even found that those people who had sex the night before a Marathon were faster than those without. No direct proof of course, but still. Boning within few hours before the session could, however,  have negative effects.  So make your Lady happy the night before. This will also make it easier for you to go skate (again!) without taking her somewhere  ;)

http://www.soc.ucsb.edu/sexinfo/article/sex-and-athletic-performance (http://www.soc.ucsb.edu/sexinfo/article/sex-and-athletic-performance)


Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: MintySandwhich on May 15, 2017, 11:18:04 AM
Can someone please break down back tails.  I've been skating 20 years and never got them locked and now I just fling at it.  Where should I be looking or have my head.  in front toward the ledge? down at my back foot?

Took me forever to master them, but now it's the only trick I know how to do. I found out over time that many people's problem is that they get too on top of the ledge and stop sliding. The "hint" is to lean away from the ledge almost like a back 180 next to the ledge and just stick your tail on to the ledge. Your body should not really be on top of the ledge at all. I don't know if this makes sense, but i had this epiphany now it makes sense for me. Hope that helps cause they're a fun trick.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on May 15, 2017, 12:15:45 PM
I'm not sure if anybody cares, but I just figured out that if you want to do better fakie backside nosegrinds come at the ledge with an open stance, hips facing forward and do like a frontside quarter cab (I guess that's what you'd call it...half half cab sounds dumb to me...) onto the ledge. I used to come perfectly parallel, and that makes it a fling and pray thing. The open stance lets me aim and really lock in.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Mark Renton on May 16, 2017, 11:58:04 AM
I finally landed a couple of nocomply bs 360 by watching how Cory Kennedy does it in the beginning of this clip. I used to put the front foot like I put it for nocomply 180s and I couldn't get the right spin.
It's a really enjoyable clip.

And It's On And It's On And It's On (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9IZVCYCQP4#)
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: perverted super otaku! on May 16, 2017, 04:02:07 PM
How do you do those Ryan Gallant fakie frontside 180s...? I guess mostly in the arms and having mad pop? shit looks so cool

3:06
www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-VRq4iRI8c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-VRq4iRI8c#)
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: j....soy..... on May 17, 2017, 08:41:30 AM
First off.....figure out what the tricks called....
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Post by: kook nukem on May 29, 2017, 09:21:33 AM
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The no jacking off thing before skating is real, whether it's mental or not. I'll even avoid sex the night before skating sometimes. I guess a good sesh outweighs hormones a bit as you get older.
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According to several studies on this topic (mostly related to soccer /running) there should be no effect on your performance if you had sex the night before. It was even found that those people who had sex the night before a Marathon were faster than those without. No direct proof of course, but still. Boning within few hours before the session could, however,  have negative effects.  So make your Lady happy the night before. This will also make it easier for you to go skate (again!) without taking her somewhere  ;)

http://www.soc.ucsb.edu/sexinfo/article/sex-and-athletic-performance (http://www.soc.ucsb.edu/sexinfo/article/sex-and-athletic-performance)




Amazing. Thank you.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: el chino on May 29, 2017, 02:20:50 PM
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The no jacking off thing before skating is real, whether it's mental or not. I'll even avoid sex the night before skating sometimes. I guess a good sesh outweighs hormones a bit as you get older.
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LOL, you're kidding right?
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Yoooo who's mans is this?(http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/mjlol.png)


"Sorry babe, not tonight. I'm going filming with the boys tomorrow and I gotta be at my best" (http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/smugbiden.png)


Shorty sitting there spread eagle like (http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/gucci3.png)

"Well then what about tomorrow night?" (http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/usure.png)

"Shiiiiiit, I was gonna skate the day after that too" (http://www.thecoli.com/data/emoticons/5/fdf7167469b57f177edbf7a9e3eec5f5.png?t=1483245703)
shits stupid
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Esquivel on May 30, 2017, 01:04:04 AM
Yeah not having sex the day before the session is pure bs. The stoke of great ass fucking can only add to the skating. My only concern would be having sex 5 minutes before the session and being on top. I sometimes fear that this would temporarily numb my knees.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: eranka on May 30, 2017, 02:22:25 AM
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Not sure who said the inward heelflip tip but it actually works!

It's still too ahead of my level but, I'm actually really close to landing them fakie.�
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fakie inward heels are easier than regular ones imho because you can pop/ flick in the same single motion. for regular ones I feel like you have to ollie first and the heave your leg off to the side way later. Also use J Gray's theory for pop on this trick; back toe shoe be in the back pocket to create leverage
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Oh definitely easier fakie. But, I went from flinging everywhere to a solid 1 foot land
Best inward (and hardflip) tip i have is try opening you right shoulder to the right (if youre goofy) after popping, doing this will keep you board infront of you and will help you catch it 90ish degrees and whip it to full rotation. The Hardflip tip works the other way round, for a hardflip i rotate my right shoulder to the left. a few friends tried this tip and it helped them so i guess it has something to it
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: drcroc on June 28, 2017, 06:30:14 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/IoXGrLl.jpg)

This is a diagram for goofy-footed heelflips. You want to lean your body weight/posture (i.e. back shoulder down to back leg) well/firmly into the light blue area, but not so much that you fall backwards. This gives you the proper stance to be able to catch the board with the most surface area as it comes around so you can land bolts and ride away. I spent over 10-15 years figuring this out myself, figured I'd share.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: handsclapanin on June 28, 2017, 08:28:42 AM
Buy brand name Q-tips. The generic version might save you a buck, but could potentially damage your ear canal, due to lack of cotton.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: SodaJerk on June 28, 2017, 08:58:33 AM
Buy brand name Q-tips. The generic version might save you a buck, but could potentially damage your ear canal, due to lack of cotton.
Testify! Those cheap shits are lethal.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on June 28, 2017, 09:28:26 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/IoXGrLl.jpg)

This is a diagram for goofy-footed heelflips. You want to lean your body weight/posture (i.e. back shoulder down to back leg) well/firmly into the light blue area, but not so much that you fall backwards. This gives you the proper stance to be able to catch the board with the most surface area as it comes around so you can land bolts and ride away. I spent over 10-15 years figuring this out myself, figured I'd share.

(http://media.boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/bcf.png)
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Little Debbie on June 28, 2017, 12:30:36 PM
i don't know why that's so funny but i can't stop smirking
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Tracer on June 28, 2017, 04:12:12 PM
Buy brand name Q-tips. The generic version might save you a buck, but could potentially damage your ear canal, due to lack of cotton.
You aren't meant to clean your inner ears at all, seriously.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: VHS ERA on June 28, 2017, 05:41:29 PM
I can't powerslide. Been skating forever, it never made sense to me. My board stops if I turn sideways and I fall off before any sliding occurs. Only time I've felt real powerslides is on something slippery like leaves in the fall.

Help.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Roisto on June 28, 2017, 09:07:18 PM
I can't powerslide. Been skating forever, it never made sense to me. My board stops if I turn sideways and I fall off before any sliding occurs. Only time I've felt real powerslides is on something slippery like leaves in the fall.

Help.

Get Spitfire Formula Fours (101A preferably). Start with frontside reverts going somewhat fast. Gradually try to bring the front wheels in to the slide. No worries if the front wheels don't slide, then you're just doing a revert instead of eating shit. Once you get the feeling for frontside 180 powerslides, it's much easier to learn the others as you already know what it takes to make the wheels slide. Also one thing that helps learn powerslides is carving into it. Do a backside carve and from that shift your weight to the frontside 180 powerslide. Helped me learn them on soft wheels instead of Spitfire F4's which slide like a dream.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Krooked antihero on June 29, 2017, 12:06:13 AM
I can't powerslide. Been skating forever, it never made sense to me. My board stops if I turn sideways and I fall off before any sliding occurs. Only time I've felt real powerslides is on something slippery like leaves in the fall.

Help.
Find a mellow hill to bomb, start to PUSH your board in front of you and at the same time move your weight on heels (fs powerslide). I learned them findind a position where I ended up on my ass, ie. pushing that board in front of me too much and take little back. Key for powerslides is in your back foot, just push the shit out of your back wheels... and like Roisto said, 180 reverts on flat helps too.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Lonechicken on June 29, 2017, 08:26:08 AM
For Kickflips, I focus on dragging my foot straight forward like how you level out an ollie but instead of doing it in the center of the nose, I do it right through the pocket. The closer my drag through the center of the nose, the more it bones out.

I'm trying to get kickflips to come up to my catching foot, but I'm not getting it. If I'm lucky, they normally level out. If I'm unlucky, they rocket or worse, nose dive badly like a forward flip.

How should I be dragging my front foot (regular)?

(http://www.digitalcircle.com/temp/Kickflips.jpg)

Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoPOCuDWNJo&t=2m9s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoPOCuDWNJo&t=2m9s)
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Mark Renton on June 29, 2017, 08:37:09 AM
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The no jacking off thing before skating is real, whether it's mental or not. I'll even avoid sex the night before skating sometimes. I guess a good sesh outweighs hormones a bit as you get older.
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LOL, you're kidding right?
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Yoooo who's mans is this?(http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/mjlol.png)


"Sorry babe, not tonight. I'm going filming with the boys tomorrow and I gotta be at my best" (http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/smugbiden.png)


Shorty sitting there spread eagle like (http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/gucci3.png)

"Well then what about tomorrow night?" (http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/usure.png)

"Shiiiiiit, I was gonna skate the day after that too" (http://www.thecoli.com/data/emoticons/5/fdf7167469b57f177edbf7a9e3eec5f5.png?t=1483245703)

Hahah this is good
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: E on June 29, 2017, 09:45:42 AM
Any advice for popping out of blunt stalls? Is the best way to learn them with the hand grab first? I can get into them but can't get out. Any advice is appreciated!
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Post by: Dark Knight on June 29, 2017, 11:07:30 AM
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(https://i.imgur.com/IoXGrLl.jpg)

This is a diagram for goofy-footed heelflips. You want to lean your body weight/posture (i.e. back shoulder down to back leg) well/firmly into the light blue area, but not so much that you fall backwards. This gives you the proper stance to be able to catch the board with the most surface area as it comes around so you can land bolts and ride away. I spent over 10-15 years figuring this out myself, figured I'd share.
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(http://media.boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/bcf.png)

Too good.  Hahaha
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Casey Jones on June 29, 2017, 01:06:20 PM
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I can't powerslide. Been skating forever, it never made sense to me. My board stops if I turn sideways and I fall off before any sliding occurs. Only time I've felt real powerslides is on something slippery like leaves in the fall.

Help.
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Get Spitfire Formula Fours (101A preferably). Start with frontside reverts going somewhat fast. Gradually try to bring the front wheels in to the slide. No worries if the front wheels don't slide, then you're just doing a revert instead of eating shit. Once you get the feeling for frontside 180 powerslides, it's much easier to learn the others as you already know what it takes to make the wheels slide. Also one thing that helps learn powerslides is carving into it. Do a backside carve and from that shift your weight to the frontside 180 powerslide. Helped me learn them on soft wheels instead of Spitfire F4's which slide like a dream.

For me, I kind of have my heels off the edge of he board a little bit. That way I have some leverage to push the board forward as I slide. Plus it feels better. It's almost like you're putting your weight on your heel, or the arch of your foot as you slide and leaning wayy back. Just force that shit in front of you and put your weight into it. Think about it. You weight like 200 pounds almost, your board weighs like 5? You can force that shit to do anything. Just use that mentality.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Master Roshi on June 29, 2017, 01:42:14 PM
Any advice for popping out of blunt stalls? Is the best way to learn them with the hand grab first? I can get into them but can't get out. Any advice is appreciated!

I think a combo of grabbing the nose straight in and popping to rock fakie.
You get the feel for popping out with the one to rock fakie and the feel for going straight in from the nosegrab out.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: JB on June 29, 2017, 02:07:59 PM
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I can't powerslide. Been skating forever, it never made sense to me. My board stops if I turn sideways and I fall off before any sliding occurs. Only time I've felt real powerslides is on something slippery like leaves in the fall.

Help.
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Get Spitfire Formula Fours (101A preferably). Start with frontside reverts going somewhat fast. Gradually try to bring the front wheels in to the slide. No worries if the front wheels don't slide, then you're just doing a revert instead of eating shit. Once you get the feeling for frontside 180 powerslides, it's much easier to learn the others as you already know what it takes to make the wheels slide. Also one thing that helps learn powerslides is carving into it. Do a backside carve and from that shift your weight to the frontside 180 powerslide. Helped me learn them on soft wheels instead of Spitfire F4's which slide like a dream.
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For me, I kind of have my heels off the edge of he board a little bit. That way I have some leverage to push the board forward as I slide. Plus it feels better. It's almost like you're putting your weight on your heel, or the arch of your foot as you slide and leaning wayy back. Just force that shit in front of you and put your weight into it. Think about it. You weight like 200 pounds almost, your board weighs like 5? You can force that shit to do anything. Just use that mentality.

ill add that I think of them in two steps. first just think of it as a 180 powerslide revert thing. this will take the weight off your back foot and allow you to slide it out. then when youre half way around, lean back on your heels and push the board out. and go fast.

and F4s were made for powerslides.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: perverted super otaku! on June 29, 2017, 02:40:32 PM
For frontside slides just take the weight of your back foot and swing your hips and legs front side and you will slide, its kind of a full body motion to get used to, using you arms to balance when straightening out again, which kind just happens on its own
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: bumpnrun on June 29, 2017, 04:12:31 PM
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Can someone please break down back tails.  I've been skating 20 years and never got them locked and now I just fling at it.  Where should I be looking or have my head.  in front toward the ledge? down at my back foot?
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Took me forever to master them, but now it's the only trick I know how to do. I found out over time that many people's problem is that they get too on top of the ledge and stop sliding. The "hint" is to lean away from the ledge almost like a back 180 next to the ledge and just stick your tail on to the ledge. Your body should not really be on top of the ledge at all. I don't know if this makes sense, but i had this epiphany now it makes sense for me. Hope that helps cause they're a fun trick.


On a low ledge, scoop the tail and face the upper left bolt roughly.

On a higher ledge, pop 90 and do the same fuckin thing.

To come out fakie be looking at the right bolt

Im regs so reverse this if goofy

The trick to bs tails is to not turn your upper body. Only your lower body. When sliding, you'll essentially be looking down your target line, in a sense. Same with fs nose slides.

Look at Kenny and Carroll's posture.

(https://noneco.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/www-noneco-com284.jpg)
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: VHS ERA on June 29, 2017, 07:38:38 PM
Good looks yall maybe there's hope for me doing powerslides
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Grind King Rims on June 30, 2017, 07:23:12 AM
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Buy brand name Q-tips. The generic version might save you a buck, but could potentially damage your ear canal, due to lack of cotton.
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You aren't meant to clean your inner ears at all, seriously.

Yeah, this is correct. Use Q-tips to clean the secreted wax in your outer ear, but do not insert q tips into your inner ear/ear canal.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on June 30, 2017, 07:21:19 PM
Any general tips on skating steeper tranny? I've got a decent amount of qp tricks, but there are a couple steeper ones that I just freeze up at.
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Post by: perverted super otaku! on July 01, 2017, 05:53:14 AM
That Kenny/ Carroll back tail technique analysis is gold, so sick how close their techniques are, arms and everything
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: JB on July 01, 2017, 09:43:19 AM
What's the trick to backside big spins? My pop shuv it's are fine and backside 180s are decent, but they don't work together at all. Been trying it on and off for years and I've never gotten anywhere with it and it drives me crazy seeing people who do it so easily.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: S.E. on July 01, 2017, 09:57:08 AM
What's the trick to backside big spins? My pop shuv it's are fine and backside 180s are decent, but they don't work together at all. Been trying it on and off for years and I've never gotten anywhere with it and it drives me crazy seeing people who do it so easily.

SCOOOOOOP and your shoulders should be parallel with the nose and tail the whole time.  scoop and shoulder turn simultaneously and it comes right around.  dont lean forward or you'll slide out to your teeth if you're doing it down something
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Post by: thebacker on July 01, 2017, 10:08:20 AM
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What's the trick to backside big spins? My pop shuv it's are fine and backside 180s are decent, but they don't work together at all. Been trying it on and off for years and I've never gotten anywhere with it and it drives me crazy seeing people who do it so easily.
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SCOOOOOOP and your shoulders should be parallel with the nose and tail the whole time.  scoop and shoulder turn simultaneously and it comes right around.  dont lean forward or you'll slide out to your teeth if you're doing it down something
prettyy much this. its ALL in the scoop
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Post by: Burton Ernie on July 01, 2017, 11:37:52 AM
Good looks yall maybe there's hope for me doing powerslides

find a nice blacktop parking lot. so much easier to get the hang of it on blacktop/asphalt.
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Post by: Sidewalk Funk. on July 03, 2017, 06:01:24 PM
This thread rules! Just skated for the first time after reading it and was able to relearn several old tricks that I couldn't figure out how I lost.

This advice was stellar:
 

For grinds, especially front truck stuff you want to jump into the grind, not onto it.  A lot of people pop up and come down on the ledge, what you want is to jump forward into the grind. 

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Post by: Tracer on July 03, 2017, 06:13:26 PM
What's the trick to backside big spins? My pop shuv it's are fine and backside 180s are decent, but they don't work together at all. Been trying it on and off for years and I've never gotten anywhere with it and it drives me crazy seeing people who do it so easily.
Keep your back foot closer to the bolts, only way to do them without a pivot or slide.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: tura on July 03, 2017, 07:49:20 PM
I learnt bigspins by doing back 180s with a scoop. They end up pretty sketchy, but you can clean em up when you get comfortable. For non popped ones try not to move your front foot and sort of step around it
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Post by: Matthew_James on July 03, 2017, 08:02:16 PM
Don't talk a bunch of shit about how you're gonna go to a famous spot you've seen in a video for the first time and kill it. Just because pros make it look easy to skate doesn't mean that it is, and you're going to look like a dickhead for talking about what you would do & not doing it.

I did that shit once, and once was all it took for me to learn better.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: supsup on July 06, 2017, 03:17:59 AM
On indy trucks, put 2 washers on the inside. This way you'll have more truck to grind and never fuck the nuts.
If you also put indy bushings for low trucks on ST trucks, you'll can have them as soft as you want

(https://goo.gl/images/xYjuCd)
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: shark tits on July 06, 2017, 09:20:26 AM
whoever said to fs powerslide first and carve into bs powerslides, thanks a lot!
i could do em on flat like into a wall and 180 but using that^ method i was able to go back and forth down my hill. thanks a lot!
this might be life changing.
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Post by: -- on July 06, 2017, 01:15:32 PM
On indy trucks, put 2 washers on the inside.
what do you mean? why can't this be done with other trucks?
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Post by: Grind King Rims on July 06, 2017, 01:46:53 PM
Don't talk a bunch of shit about how you're gonna go to a famous spot you've seen in a video for the first time and kill it. Just because pros make it look easy to skate doesn't mean that it is, and you're going to look like a dickhead for talking about what you would do & not doing it.

I did that shit once, and once was all it took for me to learn better.

Otherwise known as the Sheckler rule.
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Post by: oyolar on July 06, 2017, 07:14:34 PM
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What's the trick to backside big spins? My pop shuv it's are fine and backside 180s are decent, but they don't work together at all. Been trying it on and off for years and I've never gotten anywhere with it and it drives me crazy seeing people who do it so easily.
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SCOOOOOOP and your shoulders should be parallel with the nose and tail the whole time.  scoop and shoulder turn simultaneously and it comes right around.  dont lean forward or you'll slide out to your teeth if you're doing it down something

Nice, thanks man.  I'll have to keep this in mind.
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Post by: PatrickSkateman on July 07, 2017, 10:35:04 AM
I need serious tre flip help. Been skating for 24 years and only had them for one day in 1997. Always rationalized to myself that Scott Johnston never did them in order to make myself feel better.
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Post by: NeppuNeppu on July 07, 2017, 10:37:36 AM
Any tips for frontside lipslides?
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Post by: shit_for_brains on July 07, 2017, 10:41:05 AM
Any tips for frontside lipslides?

As long as you get your back truck over you'll always be fine. Once you learn them they're more natural feeling than boardslides.
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Post by: Tracer on July 07, 2017, 11:11:52 AM
Any tips for frontside lipslides?
Learn 50-50s and f/s 180s

Approach the obstacle at a slight angle, pop hard and get your shoulders above the rail. Be soft I broke hella boards learning it  :D

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Post by: silhouette on July 07, 2017, 02:00:41 PM
PatrickSkateman for 360 flips have your back foot with the big toe in the corner of the tail hanging slightly off the edge. front foot goes anywhere near the middle of the board or front bolts (depending on your wheelbase which i find fucks alot with how much you have to adjust for this particular trick) as long as it is in a position that feels comfortable and neutral if that makes sense. toes pointing toward the nose a fair bit, resting in the middle of the concave, in a rather open stance. shoulders should be open toward the direction you're going and you should rest your weight over your back foot prior to popping - keep upper body perpendicular to the ground and make sure not to lean over your front leg at all. pop straight down at a slight angle and lift your front foot up for a loose, subtle flick like it's a modified ollie, that's if you want solid pop rather than the shove-itey type (the one that instantly goes off to the side). the less you treat it like a fiercer varial flip the better it shall work. to stay above the board watch your front bolts before you pop and jump toward where you think they will be after the 360 flip (if you can't keep them straight under you - which will come together on its own eventually anyway). make sure you lock your upper body position - my problem for the longest time was that i would unwillingly open my shoulders and consequently shift my stance upon popping, resulting in consistently missing the catch with my back foot - you don't want that. just trust the trick and comfortably sit over it. good luck, i've had the same problem as you with switch 360 flips about 12 years ago, somehow i had them on lock for exactly one day, and just when i thought i had figured them out and before i was done rejoicing, the next day they were completely gone and i've only landed a handful of really shitty ones ever since (except on banks where they're easier. so maybe try normal 360 flips on hips and to fakie on banks too ? they also seem to work quite well off bumps)

Kumiko for f/s lipslides learn f/s disasters on tranny first. then treat your rail or ledge like it's coping, you just approach it from the flatground. with the right angle you'll slide without a care in the world. go fast
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Post by: silhouette on July 07, 2017, 03:33:02 PM
Don't talk a bunch of shit about how you're gonna go to a famous spot you've seen in a video for the first time and kill it. Just because pros make it look easy to skate doesn't mean that it is, and you're going to look like a dickhead for talking about what you would do & not doing it.

I did that shit once, and once was all it took for me to learn better.

reminds me of the first time i went to sf back in 2010. i hadn't claimed anything but i was 'strong' of having been skating for a humble 10, 11 years or so and naively assumed that seeing as my small ass rural european hometown was kind of built downhill, i would do somewhat alright (or at least wouldn't feel too uncomfortable). eventually for the 3 months i lived there, my sorry ass spent maybe 2 months and a half completely relearning how to skate, talk about a lesson in humility. not so much because of the steepness of the hills but also because of the sketchiness, all those cracks & loose tiles everywhere. seeing that shit in real life helps you put the gx1000 shit in perspective so much better - it's been said before, but i'll say it again. i consistently run into skatepark dweebs with gx1000 hoodies now who occasionally brag about being 'hill skaters' and shit when they can barely ride down the bank hanging onto rocket kickflip fakies, or ollie the pyramid, let alone hit up a real street spot because they would have to look away from their phones to even notice them, it's cringeworthy, i've told one of them they really probably couldn't handle three feet down a sf hill before foot braking and they acted all shook, that was pretty funny.

on the other hand i got to be a skate tourist in nyc a year after that and was actually surprised by how reasonably clean the streets and spots were. for some reason i always had pictured things a lot more rugged there than they actually turned out to be (to me), having grown up reading about all the nyc roughness thing in mags and all. turned out i found it a lot softer than most of sf by a fairly large margin. it wasn't exactly soft either but the streets and spots were a lot more pleasant and convenient to skate, even as far as cracks and shit go.

sorry for double posting, my phone sucks. and yes i'm occasionally glued to it myself too
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Post by: planman on July 08, 2017, 12:36:28 AM
Krux stock 95a bushings are harder than Indy stock 95a bushings
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Post by: supsup on July 08, 2017, 04:38:08 AM
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what do you mean? why can't this be done with other trucks?
I guess you can on other trucks
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Mark Renton on July 08, 2017, 07:27:43 AM
PatrickSkateman for 360 flips have your back foot with the big toe in the corner of the tail hanging slightly off the edge. front foot goes anywhere near the middle of the board or front bolts (depending on your wheelbase which i find fucks alot with how much you have to adjust for this particular trick) as long as it is in a position that feels comfortable and neutral if that makes sense. toes pointing toward the nose a fair bit, resting in the middle of the concave, in a rather open stance. shoulders should be open toward the direction you're going and you should rest your weight over your back foot prior to popping - keep upper body perpendicular to the ground and make sure not to lean over your front leg at all. pop straight down at a slight angle and lift your front foot up for a loose, subtle flick like it's a modified ollie, that's if you want solid pop rather than the shove-itey type (the one that instantly goes off to the side). the less you treat it like a fiercer varial flip the better it shall work. to stay above the board watch your front bolts before you pop and jump toward where you think they will be after the 360 flip (if you can't keep them straight under you - which will come together on its own eventually anyway). make sure you lock your upper body position - my problem for the longest time was that i would unwillingly open my shoulders and consequently shift my stance upon popping, resulting in consistently missing the catch with my back foot - you don't want that. just trust the trick and comfortably sit over it. good luck, i've had the same problem as you with switch 360 flips about 12 years ago, somehow i had them on lock for exactly one day, and just when i thought i had figured them out and before i was done rejoicing, the next day they were completely gone and i've only landed a handful of really shitty ones ever since (except on banks where they're easier. so maybe try normal 360 flips on hips and to fakie on banks too ? they also seem to work quite well off bumps)

I'm going to try them again thinking about this.. I can never figure out what to do with my frontfoot.
I used to have them consistently even drunk back in the days, but I was doing them kinda impossibles-esque if that makes any sense, front foot almost solely just leaving the board.
Then I basically quit for a few years and lost them, now when I do them my balance is all fucked up like you're saying and my front foot can't land on the board.. when I commit it is always primo+board turning and me getting truckfucked in the ass haha.
I'll try them thinking of 'modified ollies' and hope it works. Cheers man!
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: micky682 on July 20, 2017, 03:45:05 PM
Ever since my ankle/foot surgery my kickflips have been rocket. No matter how hard I try to level it out they just flop on the ground. I tried them off the nose of my Quasi today and finally they felt like they used to. Are there any other tips to getting kickflips back and making them as high as your ollie?
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Willie on July 20, 2017, 08:27:07 PM
Any tips for frontside lipslides?


I assume you are asking for street but if for transition:


Put your front foot closer or even on your front bolts so that it ends up with some nose leverage after you've ollied and gotten on the coping. (I usually slide my back foot up a hair from my normal Ollie position as well)

Try to get your board at least halfway over the coping (don't just lap over a truck) but keep your body mostly inside the ramp.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: silhouette on July 21, 2017, 03:32:47 PM
Ever since my ankle/foot surgery my kickflips have been rocket. No matter how hard I try to level it out they just flop on the ground. I tried them off the nose of my Quasi today and finally they felt like they used to. Are there any other tips to getting kickflips back and making them as high as your ollie?

there was this thread recently : http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=95648.0 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=95648.0) in which many people adressed exactly that problem, in case you haven't seen it, hopefully some of the tips in there will help
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: JumpManShorty on July 23, 2017, 02:24:21 AM
It's probably been posted but can you guys help with how you go about learning frontside and backside airs? What's the first step? I can kind of do Ollie frontside ones but they can go kind of random. I want to try roll them out of the coping, can it be done on a none very ramp? The idea kind of scares me
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Bumpovertrash on July 23, 2017, 02:46:44 AM
It's probably been posted but can you guys help with how you go about learning frontside and backside airs? What's the first step? I can kind of do Ollie frontside ones but they can go kind of random. I want to try roll them out of the coping, can it be done on a none very ramp? The idea kind of scares me
  I learned fs Air on hip I can't go bs for shit. If the quarter is mellow you obviously have to Ollie.. Find like a good 4-6 foot qurter preferably with hip that's a little on the steep side and you can just shoot out
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: CBerger on November 07, 2017, 05:18:20 PM
tips for good back disasters, not the kind you just fall in.  Should i be popping my tail? swinging my shoulders on the way up? slightly turning heelside on the way up before the 180?

this is also a bump for one of my favorite threads.  "tricks you learned and never did again" reminded me
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: DaSk8D00D on November 07, 2017, 06:04:53 PM
It's probably been posted but can you guys help with how you go about learning frontside and backside airs? What's the first step? I can kind of do Ollie frontside ones but they can go kind of random. I want to try roll them out of the coping, can it be done on a none very ramp? The idea kind of scares me

For frontside airs Use your shoulders to guide your trajectory along the way, level out and commit to that Ollie! Don’t try so much to land high on the quarter but allow yourself to land down into it if that makes sense. The shoulders are the biggest key tho
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: planman on November 07, 2017, 06:25:06 PM
Since coming back from my broken ankle I have completely lost the ability to even rotate a heelflip. The way I was told to do them ad learned them was to pop it exactly like an ollie but hang my foot off the board a bit more. I've not no idea what I'm doing wrong anymore
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: DaSk8D00D on November 07, 2017, 06:34:45 PM
Since coming back from my broken ankle I have completely lost the ability to even rotate a heelflip. The way I was told to do them ad learned them was to pop it exactly like an ollie but hang my foot off the board a bit more. I've not no idea what I'm doing wrong anymore

It’s kind of like that at first but when you reach the bolts, kick up kind of diagonally between the top bolts and the dip of the concave. The side of your foot slides up the grip on the Ollie part, but it should feel like it goes from the side of your foot to the back corner on that diagonal kick
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Dark Knight on November 07, 2017, 10:08:54 PM
Anyone got a tip for frontside 180 to switch crook not starting from the end of the ledge?

Frontside 360s on flat?
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: lardossian on October 12, 2020, 11:39:37 AM
Tips on FS 50-50s on round rails?

Heel lock or crosslock? Where do you balance your weight (fs or bs)?

Also in general with cross lock (fs or bs) do you try to aim for it when you're landing on the rail or do you just aim to get on top of the rail and do a quick shuffle to get into the crosslock?
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Billy Bitchcakes on October 12, 2020, 02:04:05 PM
I’ve never tried crosslock. Maybe it’s easier but not sure it’s necessary unless you’re grinding 30ft rails. It’s kind of the same as on a ledge. Lock on your heels with your trucks all the way over the other side and stand right over the top. Only difference is it’s probably more important to approach parallel than on a ledge.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: dilbert1 on October 13, 2020, 11:09:37 AM
Tips on FS 50-50s on round rails?

Heel lock or crosslock? Where do you balance your weight (fs or bs)?

Also in general with cross lock (fs or bs) do you try to aim for it when you're landing on the rail or do you just aim to get on top of the rail and do a quick shuffle to get into the crosslock?

either fs or bs on crosslocked 5050s, always aim to stick the back truck first. in the case of frontside, you want it all the way on, pressed up to your heelside wheel, like you're pressing that wheel into the side of the rail or ledge (imo cross locking on most ledges is unnecessary/can actually be weird). so aim for that, then laying down the front truck opposite (hanging by your toe side wheel) comes immediately after. worst that can happen if you get good at planting that back truck every time on a moderate flat bar is if you miss your front truck you accidentally get into a smith (or if bs, feeble). that should be easy to bail if you're keeping a lot of weight on your back foot. this is also indispensable for 5050ing pool coping and most transition
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Hombreezy on October 13, 2020, 11:14:59 AM
Hard flips are all in the toes and leaning back over the back foot
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: duniwayRobber on October 13, 2020, 12:53:01 PM
Go Fast(er).

Everything looks better and even ollies become panty soakers.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: redraobetaks on October 13, 2020, 01:02:22 PM
Any tips for BS bluntslide on ledges?? I’ve done them a handful of times. I usually end up getting a hipper smh.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: fulltechnicalskizzy on October 13, 2020, 01:29:31 PM
use ur skate to kill god fearing americans if u want to do communism
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Eric Dolphy on October 13, 2020, 04:38:15 PM
Hard flips are all in the toes and leaning back over the back foot
I'm going to try this. If it works I might even believe you about your baloney sauce
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Dirk_Diggler on October 13, 2020, 07:56:18 PM
If you say Fred Gall 3 times while looking in the mirror he’ll appear and grant you 1 wish.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: SneakySecrets on October 13, 2020, 08:25:46 PM
Next time you bomb a hill, plant a dog whistle partly under your grip and watch those pups come runnin!

Now that’s what I call doing it doggy style ;D
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Sativa Lung on October 14, 2020, 11:44:37 AM
Next time you bomb a hill, plant a dog whistle partly under your grip and watch those pups come runnin!

Now that’s what I call doing it doggy style ;D

Go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Fooj on October 14, 2020, 07:49:07 PM
Committing is safer than going in 50%

Also the Front Crook tips that Jamie said he got from Cole are seriously game changers:
-Bs heel feet
-ride parallel
-head over the pinch wheel


PS: the classic spitfire shape is the BEST better for all Crooks. Ive tried all the F4 shapes, the big rounded classic shape glides over the ledge different, even better than radial/slims
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: rocklobster on October 14, 2020, 11:25:58 PM
Committing is safer than going in 50%

Also the Front Crook tips that Jamie said he got from Cole are seriously game changers:
-Bs heel feet
-ride parallel
-head over the pinch wheel


PS: the classic spitfire shape is the BEST better for all Crooks. Ive tried all the F4 shapes, the big rounded classic shape glides over the ledge different, even better than radial/slims

Love the insight on this trick, it's a trick that definitely feels better going with some speed than slow and hoping for the best, but I also see speed as a bit of a crutch, like I go fast so I can blast my way through instead of getting the technique 100%. Going fast also makes exiting tricks way easier since your momentum automatically wants to take you out the ledge.

1 thing I tell myself is to not be lazy and actually get a good solid pop to get slightly above the ledge and tweak out the crook, which can be intimidating since it's easy to overshoot the ledge and end up on your back. If I don't give a solid pop I end up in FS noseslide. Depending on my truck I will adjust how far back I put my dragging foot. If I got a light popping truck (Thunder) I put my foot closer up the front, if I got a heavy popping truck (Venture) I put my foot further back for more drag time.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Scott Chegg on October 15, 2020, 04:49:48 AM
Any tips for frontside flips, I just can’t wrap my head around them backside makes way more sense. Should I get them down fakie first?
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Hombreezy on October 15, 2020, 08:25:25 AM
Any tips for frontside flips, I just can’t wrap my head around them backside makes way more sense. Should I get them down fakie first?
I got my hardflips really good before I learned those because the front foot positioning and slide is pretty much the same. It also really helps me to sit back a little over the back foot (don’t sit back too much or you’ll just start flinging the board) and focus on getting the full 180 with my shoulders. Then it’s all about flicking hard and quick off the nose so i can get both feet out of the way.
If that was a confusing explanation, then just focus on doing a great frontside 180 and move your front foot off the nose and out of the way like you would for a hardflip.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Mantracker on October 15, 2020, 09:25:01 AM
Any tips for frontside flips, I just can’t wrap my head around them backside makes way more sense. Should I get them down fakie first?

a lot of times your body's rotation gets stuck halfway when you're waiting for the kickflip to finish. Focus on turning the full 180 with a good flick and really bring your back foot around. also start to spin your arms and shoulders right before you pop

fakie can be easier for some, but it is a different trick in execution
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Idk on October 15, 2020, 11:05:54 AM
Any tips for frontside flips, I just can’t wrap my head around them backside makes way more sense. Should I get them down fakie first?
Mob the flick and bring your foot just a tiny bit down from where you’re probably putting it at. That’ll give you Carroll style caught ones.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: rocklobster on October 15, 2020, 11:08:23 AM
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I got my hardflips really good before I learned those because the front foot positioning and slide is pretty much the same. It also really helps me to sit back a little over the back foot (don’t sit back too much or you’ll just start flinging the board) and focus on getting the full 180 with my shoulders. Then it’s all about flicking hard and quick off the nose so i can get both feet out of the way.
If that was a confusing explanation, then just focus on doing a great frontside 180 and move your front foot off the nose and out of the way like you would for a hardflip.

Same - motion is really similar to a Hardflip and for me there isn't anything special I can say about a FS Flip. I really learned them as FS 180 with a Kickflip. It helps to get a good scoop with the back foot with your foot in the center of the tail. I try to make sure I'm getting a good 180 with a decent amount of height and scoop, if not the board just ends up under me.

Like Willy Santos said, flick of the toe makes it happen, motion more sideways than upwards (unlike a Hardflip). From there it's the catch and completing the rotation.

This trick feels really different from BS Kickflips to me, I still can't wrap my head around that one yet despite watching the instructional from Ben Degros.

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Mob the flick and bring your foot just a tiny bit down from where you’re probably putting it at. That’ll give you Carroll style caught ones.

I agree, in this case having a mob flip helps.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Dudecahedron on October 24, 2020, 08:13:24 PM
For nollie heels, for me, i cant pop straight down with this trick. I slightly nudge it forward before i pop the board if that makes sense. Its like I'm pushing a nose manual in front of me for a split second, then pop and then heelflip. When i started doing this the nollie heels got higher and leveled. Whenever I pop straight down I always rocket it. Same thing goes for fakie heels. This doesn't work for nollie flips though, that one you do pop straight down.

game changing realization for me recently. also, i think this technique can be applied to many tricks, provided they are not dependent on a scooped pop. i feel like in general a slight opposing pressure of the popping leg maintains contact and control between the grip and sliding foot, leading to more height, control, and crispiness. i think of my pop foot as "feeding" the board to my slide/flick foot.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: RichardBarkley on October 25, 2020, 04:29:41 AM
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For nollie heels, for me, i cant pop straight down with this trick. I slightly nudge it forward before i pop the board if that makes sense. Its like I'm pushing a nose manual in front of me for a split second, then pop and then heelflip. When i started doing this the nollie heels got higher and leveled. Whenever I pop straight down I always rocket it. Same thing goes for fakie heels. This doesn't work for nollie flips though, that one you do pop straight down.
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game changing realization for me recently. also, i think this technique can be applied to many tricks, provided they are not dependent on a scooped pop. i feel like in general a slight opposing pressure of the popping leg maintains contact and control between the grip and sliding foot, leading to more height, control, and crispiness. i think of my pop foot as "feeding" the board to my slide/flick foot.

Totally. I do this with ollie's if I want to pop em high. Its hard to do at speed but can be learned.

Drag back momentarily as you pop and give your front foot leverage.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: MORT on October 25, 2020, 06:55:32 AM
When doing backside smith grinds picture the motion when throwing a bowling ball. The back leg sweeps behind you using your toe. Works for transition and ledges.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: MORT on October 25, 2020, 06:57:03 AM
Oh and just fucking breathe. That’s works for everything in life.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: RichardBarkley on October 25, 2020, 08:35:35 AM
Oh and just fucking breathe. That’s works for everything in life.

How do you mean
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: MORT on October 25, 2020, 10:26:18 AM
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Oh and just fucking breathe. That’s works for everything in life.
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How do you mean

When skating try to focus on your breath. A lot of us hold our breath and tense up right as we try something. Focusing on your breath calms your mind and relaxes your body, which in turn lets muscle memory take over. Works for almost any stressful or strenuous moment really. Try it.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: SneakySecrets on October 25, 2020, 10:37:05 AM
Breathing huh?  Sounds crazy but I’ll give it a shot.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: georgethecat on October 25, 2020, 10:52:46 AM
Breathing huh?  Sounds crazy but I’ll give it a shot.

As an anti-breather, I can tell you that's exactly what big government and the soulless breathing corporations want you to do.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: RichardBarkley on October 25, 2020, 11:09:50 AM
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Oh and just fucking breathe. That’s works for everything in life.
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How do you mean
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When skating try to focus on your breath. A lot of us hold our breath and tense up right as we try something. Focusing on your breath calms your mind and relaxes your body, which in turn lets muscle memory take over. Works for almost any stressful or strenuous moment really. Try it.

Sounds interesting. Can you send me a link with technique. If such thing exists.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: MORT on October 25, 2020, 11:19:59 AM
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Oh and just fucking breathe. That’s works for everything in life.
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How do you mean
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When skating try to focus on your breath. A lot of us hold our breath and tense up right as we try something. Focusing on your breath calms your mind and relaxes your body, which in turn lets muscle memory take over. Works for almost any stressful or strenuous moment really. Try it.
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Sounds interesting. Can you send me a link with technique. If such thing exists.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nRtDRoAsBqM
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Billy Bitchcakes on October 25, 2020, 11:20:56 AM
I've heard that before and it sounds like a good idea but it's hard enough for me to focus on the trick already I don't know how focussing on what my breathing's doing as well is going to help
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: fakie nollie on October 25, 2020, 11:22:58 AM
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Breathing huh?  Sounds crazy but I’ll give it a shot.
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As an anti-breather, I can tell you that's exactly what big government and the soulless breathing corporations want you to do.

#breathegate
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: johnes on October 25, 2020, 11:25:41 AM
I took note from boxing and mma on the subject of breathing. Deep breath in through your nose, blow it out slowly through your mouth to lower your heart rate when exhausted from trying a trick and help your stamina.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: Lou Strux on October 25, 2020, 11:36:49 PM
Depending on deductions claimed & which exemptions you qualify for, skateboarding may actually owe YOU more than wheel bite in the rain.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: HeapsCool on October 25, 2020, 11:44:12 PM
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Oh and just fucking breathe. That’s works for everything in life.
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How do you mean
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When skating try to focus on your breath. A lot of us hold our breath and tense up right as we try something. Focusing on your breath calms your mind and relaxes your body, which in turn lets muscle memory take over. Works for almost any stressful or strenuous moment really. Try it.

Yep, everything I've done I'm proud of on a skateboard comes back to relaxing and focusing on my breath.
Title: Re: Skate insights/secrets
Post by: treflips_up_yer_nan on October 26, 2020, 03:34:46 AM
use ur skate to kill god fearing americans if u want to do communism
Best one so far