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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: pussybunny on December 06, 2017, 01:45:45 PM
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Recently heard from a reliable source that Toy Machine has been struggling to sell their fucking amazing Skateboards as of late... Kids these days just don't know what's good I guess. Loyal pawns where you at?!?
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they're still ps stix, right? anyway, i was looking at a templeton shaped like two months ago but it was too short so i got a polar K1 instead.
uh, and matt bennet's good i guess
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Maybe sorting out their dog shit distribution in the UK might help.
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yeah i had been noticing the earnest desperation in the ads lately, it's a bummer.
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Toy machine’s prevailed tougher times, plus i think they’ve been working on a full lenght for a while.
Besides Tum yeto is pretty big and affordable in mex and i see them in the wild, especially their softgoods sell a shitton around here too especially the socks.
Then again the peso value is shit right now and that hurts da biz.
They’ll be fine
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any company thats still support josh harmony deserves to fold.
any company that turns a 12 year old am before Tre Willimas deserves to fold.
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Toy's been lacking as of late, Stevie Wonder can see that. I hope they don't go under but I wouldn't be surprised. If I'm not mistaken, it's been tough times at Tum Yeto lately.
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Tum-Yeto is the problem. Toy Machine should go solo like the other brands that are popular right now
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any company thats still support josh harmony deserves to fold.
any company that turns a 12 year old am being Tre Willimas deserves to fold.
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Tum-Yeto is the problem. Toy Machine should go solo like the other brands that are popular right now
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Toy Machine is as bland as ever nowadays. They drop J-Lay, but they leave on Josh Harmony and Billy Marks and add a twelve-year-old Red Bull pawn and Blake Carpenter? Not a good look. They've got enough heritage that I'd be sad to see them go, but, at the same time, I'm not buying a board, either.
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Templeton is over it. He prefers to do one dimensional oil paintings instead of work on his company.
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Templeton is over it. He prefers to do one dimensional oil paintings instead of work on his company.
pretty innovative if true
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Toy Machine is as bland as ever nowadays. They drop J-Lay, but they leave on Josh Harmony and Billy Marks and add a twelve-year-old Red Bull pawn and Blake Carpenter? Not a good look. They've got enough heritage that I'd be sad to see them go, but, at the same time, I'm not buying a board, either.
don't know why the billy marks coverage has basically stopped the past couple years, he could lay down some handrail wizardry with the best of em. blake carpenter is a solid team member, such a sick mix of tech/gnar with a super relaxed style. also what happened with jeremy leabres? and leo's coverage kinda fell off, but i guess he was saving footage for that berrics part he never got paid for so he's probably sitting on a bunch of stuff
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Toy Machine is as bland as ever nowadays. They drop J-Lay, but they leave on Josh Harmony and Billy Marks and add a twelve-year-old Red Bull pawn and Blake Carpenter? Not a good look. They've got enough heritage that I'd be sad to see them go, but, at the same time, I'm not buying a board, either.
don't know why the billy marks coverage has basically stopped the past couple years, he could lay down some handrail wizardry with the best of em. blake carpenter is a solid team member, such a sick mix of tech/gnar with a super relaxed style. also what happened with jeremy leabres? and leo's coverage kinda fell off, but i guess he was saving footage for that berrics part he never got paid for so he's probably sitting on a bunch of stuff
Leabres had that Toy/Thrasher part come out a few years ago and then fell off the map he was definitely getting me some what hyped on TM again until going M.I.A
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Templeton is over it. He prefers to do one dimensional oil paintings instead of work on his company.
I meant it as an adjective as in "lacking depth".
But the real question is with eds early onset Alzheimer's does he really have what it takes to run a company? What's the better choice - fold or sell?
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Toy Machine is as bland as ever nowadays. They drop J-Lay, but they leave on Josh Harmony and Billy Marks and add a twelve-year-old Red Bull pawn and Blake Carpenter? Not a good look. They've got enough heritage that I'd be sad to see them go, but, at the same time, I'm not buying a board, either.
don't know why the billy marks coverage has basically stopped the past couple years, he could lay down some handrail wizardry with the best of em. blake carpenter is a solid team member, such a sick mix of tech/gnar with a super relaxed style. also what happened with jeremy leabres? and leo's coverage kinda fell off, but i guess he was saving footage for that berrics part he never got paid for so he's probably sitting on a bunch of stuff
Real info or speculation ?
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Toy Machine is as bland as ever nowadays. They drop J-Lay, but they leave on Josh Harmony and Billy Marks and add a twelve-year-old Red Bull pawn and Blake Carpenter? Not a good look. They've got enough heritage that I'd be sad to see them go, but, at the same time, I'm not buying a board, either.
don't know why the billy marks coverage has basically stopped the past couple years, he could lay down some handrail wizardry with the best of em. blake carpenter is a solid team member, such a sick mix of tech/gnar with a super relaxed style. also what happened with jeremy leabres? and leo's coverage kinda fell off, but i guess he was saving footage for that berrics part he never got paid for so he's probably sitting on a bunch of stuff
Real info or speculation ?
Real info someone had an interview and aired that out there. Might of been Leo himself. I forget the interview.
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I was done with them niggas when they gave Jordan Taylor the boot.
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Toy Machine is as bland as ever nowadays. They drop J-Lay, but they leave on Josh Harmony and Billy Marks and add a twelve-year-old Red Bull pawn and Blake Carpenter? Not a good look. They've got enough heritage that I'd be sad to see them go, but, at the same time, I'm not buying a board, either.
don't know why the billy marks coverage has basically stopped the past couple years, he could lay down some handrail wizardry with the best of em. blake carpenter is a solid team member, such a sick mix of tech/gnar with a super relaxed style. also what happened with jeremy leabres? and leo's coverage kinda fell off, but i guess he was saving footage for that berrics part he never got paid for so he's probably sitting on a bunch of stuff
Pretty sure his coverage has basically stopped because he's getting older. Total speculation, but basing it off KOTR coverage
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I was done with them niggas when they gave Jordan Taylor the boot.
Jordan Taylor left.
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I was done with them niggas when they gave Jordan Taylor the boot.
Jordan Taylor left.
Yeah think he quit becuase they put him on the back burner for Blake and Jeremy, not like he wasn't productive he put out his accumulated footage in his gordo2k part immediately after he left
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Im sure toy Machine is doing better then foundation, also their filming a new video which should good, a couple of them have had footage in emerica videos, dan lu just put a short video part online
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I was done with them niggas when they gave Jordan Taylor the boot.
Jordan Taylor left.
Shit, I knew there was someone I was forgetting! They slept on Jordan hard. And to whoever asked, Blake strikes me as some kind of late-2000s skatepark kid that would fit better on modern day Stereo than Toy Machine.
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Recently heard from a reliable source that Toy Machine has been struggling to sell their fucking amazing Skateboards as of late...
Well that's what they get for booting J-Lay. Hope they learned their lesson!
All jokes aside, that sucks. It's weird seeing companies that I grew up supporting go down the drain. I actually wouldn't mind seeing Leo back on Baker again even though that's definitely not going to happen.
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I'm pretty sure Ed has stated multiple times that he doesn't push riders to produce and it's on them to get coverage. If they want to sell boards, then they have to produce footage.
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I'd be 100% more likely to buy Toy boards if they weren't watson decks.
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I bought a Toy board just yesterday. They sure aren't what they once were (get rid of redbull kid) but their videos have always been amazing. I feel like with Leo, Dan Lu, Collin and Jeremy alone they could make a great 15-20 minute long vid Emerica style.
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I'd be 100% more likely to buy Toy boards if they weren't watson decks.
Unless they switched back very recently, they haven't been Watson in a long, long time. They did some of the non-pro models on Watson for a while several years ago, but then switched those to PS, and then switched everything to PS.
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I still picture the Welcome to Hell / Jump Off A Building lineup when I think of Toy Machine, and that is probably what is killing them.
It's hard for us nostalgic 90s geezers to imagine brands like Toy Machine, Zero, and even Girl ever being irrelevant, but people get older and tastes change as new generation who care more about the present than the past takes control with their buying dollars. Why would a 15 year old care anything about Ed Templeton (or Billy Marks or Harmony or anybody who hasn't been relevant for years). I imagine someone who started skating 3 or 4 years ago sees Leo as the past, if they know who he is at all.
Provost is amazing but I associate him much more with Emerica and Volcom than Toy Machine. Maybe it's just the overall irrelevancy of board brands entirely these days.
It seems like the weight of Toy Machine is almost entirely on Dan Lu and Axel's shoulders and good luck with that.
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I'd be 100% more likely to buy Toy boards if they weren't watson decks.
Unless they switched back very recently, they haven't been Watson in a long, long time. They did some of the non-pro models on Watson for a while several years ago, but then switched those to PS, and then switched everything to PS.
Oh.. well... shows how much I know.
Swap watson with PS. I'd be 100% more likely to buy one if they were Generator boards.
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I was done with them niggas when they gave Jordan Taylor the boot.
Jordan Taylor left.
And him going to WKND rules. Had a great part come out, turned pro, and is part of New Balance which from my point of view is the coolest non skater owned footwear company. I regularly contemplate buying a pair. Austin and Ed should have started that brand Americana that they discussed.
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Templeton is too busy being a bitch-whipped cuck vegan faggot.
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Templeton is too busy being a bitch-whipped cuck vegan faggot.
People like you made the block hot on YouTube.
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Ed saying he barely skates anymore in Heath's epicly later'd bummed me out
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Ed saying he barely skates anymore in Heath's epicly later'd bummed me out
Dude, who is one of the best humans and skateboarders of all time, has broke his neck, femur, had multiple concussions, plus he's fat. He still shralps around a bit from what I can tell, which is pretty awesome. I doubt that they are going under, this is far from the worst stage they've gone through. They still have boards in every shop I poke my head into, in fact the last board I bought was the Last Supper for the wall. I'm gonna go buy another one to ride actually, I'm about due, thanks thread!
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Templeton is too busy being a bitch-whipped cuck vegan faggot.
People like you made the block hot on YouTube.
(https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/images/spitfire-spitfire-the-block-is-hot-t-shirt-black-sale-p4065-8511_image.jpg)
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I buy Toy boards. I've had three this year and they were all PS stix. I like that they don't play the trend games and their guys have original unique styles and passions outside the 'industry.'
I've got Blake's back, First Coast before East/West bullshit.
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I was done with them niggas when they gave Jordan Taylor the boot.
YEP! laaaame move
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i understand money is tight. but the internet is FREE. Use your riders, use insta, use your sites blog, AND MAKE SHIT HAPPEN. MARKET YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS. when you can tell the riders aren't friends but just guys on a companies payroll....thats when people smell a business rather than a movement or an identity. ya gotta evolve someway...as much as I love them, they blowin it and it makes me sad.
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Templeton is too busy being a bitch-whipped cuck vegan faggot.
People like you made the block hot on YouTube.
i remember seeing some niggas sig somewhere with some kid doing a bs wallride down a four block with that exact shirt on.
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eh whatever let it die. Kinda faded out after brain wash anyway. Leo is 31, Billy marks is 35. They have some 12 year old red bull kid ridding for them?? bleh yeah who cares. I haven't seen a toy board in years. This is all coming from a guy who worshiped good and evil and suffer the joy. Different times.
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Templeton is too busy being a bitch-whipped cuck vegan faggot.
People like you made the block hot on YouTube.
that spitfire shirt is terrible
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Ed saying he barely skates anymore in Heath's epicly later'd bummed me out
you want deanna to cry, huh?
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I love Toy Machine and I hope I can get stuff from Ed brainchild many years to come.
The socks are amazing :)
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Ed saying he barely skates anymore in Heath's epicly later'd bummed me out
I think the head trauma science of the past 5 years got Ed & Deanna shook more than a loss of passion.
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I love toy machine graphics and their team, but every single toy machine I buy I break super quick, so I gave up.
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I'd be 100% more likely to buy Toy boards if they weren't watson decks.
Unless they switched back very recently, they haven't been Watson in a long, long time. They did some of the non-pro models on Watson for a while several years ago, but then switched those to PS, and then switched everything to PS.
Oh.. well... shows how much I know.
Swap watson with PS. I'd be 100% more likely to buy one if they were Generator boards.
Where's Watson to weigh in on this debate?
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make a sock company and call it a day with boards. not every company has to last 40 years
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make a sock company and call it a day with boards. not every company has to last 40 years
I was thinking of the same thing, with the addition of graphic tees/sweatshirts...and made by RVCA instead.
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I’d be down for toy machine if the art wasn’t just the transector dressed up as just whatever all the time. The graphics used to compliment the various skaters style. They also had a bunch of skaters that brought something different to the table. Now the whole team is handrail guys and one dude who only skates shit out of banks.
I have so much respect for Templeton but Toy just isn’t what it could be anymore. I guess the kids want cartoons or whatever and I understand that’s where the money lies but bring something interesting back.
The socks are dope though, not too pricey and comfortable
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Ed saying he barely skates anymore in Heath's epicly later'd bummed me out
Dude, who is one of the best humans and skateboarders of all time, has broke his neck, femur, had multiple concussions, plus he's fat. He still shralps around a bit from what I can tell, which is pretty awesome. I doubt that they are going under, this is far from the worst stage they've gone through. They still have boards in every shop I poke my head into, in fact the last board I bought was the Last Supper for the wall. I'm gonna go buy another one to ride actually, I'm about due, thanks thread!
I remember him talking about that in his epicly later'd. He was skating some park and bailed and his wife acted like he was fucking dead. That was a few years ago too. Who cares if Ed doesn't skate much. He's a legend and had sick noseblunts. Hopefully the video is good and can help revive it, or Toy will just fade away. At least it hasn't gotten super corny and kicked all their riders off like World.
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2 out of the 3 decks I bought this year were Toy. Was skating them exclusively until I found a great deal on my current AWS.
I'd be really bummed if they kicked the bucket.
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Maybe sorting out their dog shit distribution in the UK might help.
This and the cartoon characters on every deck- toy has had some amazing graphics, but if I never see another transistor sect it'll be too soon.
Ed, JLay and Jordan Taylor were my favourites and am sort of indifferent to the rest.
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Maybe sorting out their dog shit distribution in the UK might help.
This and the cartoon characters on every deck- toy has had some amazing graphics, but if I never see another transistor sect it'll be too soon.
Ed, JLay and Jordan Taylor were my favourites and am sort of indifferent to the rest.
Rest of Europe too. Fucking China wood with 14” wheelbases. Graphics have been 95% ass lately too. I’ve wanted a Toy Machine monster board in a suitable size (& a t-shirt) for probably 20 years now, but that seems to be way too difficult. Would also go with a Fists board in a suitable size and would have bought the Ed cat reissue shaped board too had I actually found one for sale anywhere in Europe. Might cop some more socks too. One pair I have are lovely for skating and I like how they look, but I haven’t come across another pair since I bought them a few years ago. 😕
They’re fucking kooking it 100% and I blame it mostly on Tum Yeto and Sinclair. Not excited about Blake Carpenter either. He’s way too bland for Toy Machine IMO.
Also release all the old videos on DVD like Zero did with the Anthology box set. I’d buy that immediately.
Fucking basic supply and demand and they’re kooking it bad on the supply!
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Toy machine never saved me! cool ads but this 2012 decade niggas changing up team shit making me not care. But I like them. Man lets time travel and see the new companies in 20 years.
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Maybe sorting out their dog shit distribution in the UK might help.
This and the cartoon characters on every deck- toy has had some amazing graphics, but if I never see another transistor sect it'll be too soon.
Ed, JLay and Jordan Taylor were my favourites and am sort of indifferent to the rest.
Rest of Europe too. Fucking China wood with 14” wheelbases. Graphics have been 95% ass lately too. I’ve wanted a Toy Machine monster board in a suitable size (& a t-shirt) for probably 20 years now, but that seems to be way too difficult. Would also go with a Fists board in a suitable size and would have bought the Ed cat reissue shaped board too had I actually found one for sale anywhere in Europe. Might cop some more socks too. One pair I have are lovely for skating and I like how they look, but I haven’t come across another pair since I bought them a few years ago. 😕
They’re fucking kooking it 100% and I blame it mostly on Tum Yeto and Sinclair. Not excited about Blake Carpenter either. He’s way too bland for Toy Machine IMO.
Also release all the old videos on DVD like Zero did with the Anthology box set. I’d buy that immediately.
Fucking basic supply and demand and they’re kooking it bad on the supply!
Release date 2003:
(http://www.skate-the-planet.com/images/reviews/dvd_toyMachineBoxSet.jpg)
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Maybe sorting out their dog shit distribution in the UK might help.
This and the cartoon characters on every deck- toy has had some amazing graphics, but if I never see another transistor sect it'll be too soon.
Ed, JLay and Jordan Taylor were my favourites and am sort of indifferent to the rest.
Rest of Europe too. Fucking China wood with 14” wheelbases. Graphics have been 95% ass lately too. I’ve wanted a Toy Machine monster board in a suitable size (& a t-shirt) for probably 20 years now, but that seems to be way too difficult. Would also go with a Fists board in a suitable size and would have bought the Ed cat reissue shaped board too had I actually found one for sale anywhere in Europe. Might cop some more socks too. One pair I have are lovely for skating and I like how they look, but I haven’t come across another pair since I bought them a few years ago. 😕
They’re fucking kooking it 100% and I blame it mostly on Tum Yeto and Sinclair. Not excited about Blake Carpenter either. He’s way too bland for Toy Machine IMO.
Also release all the old videos on DVD like Zero did with the Anthology box set. I’d buy that immediately.
Fucking basic supply and demand and they’re kooking it bad on the supply!
Release date 2003:
(http://www.skate-the-planet.com/images/reviews/dvd_toyMachineBoxSet.jpg)
Well damn. Change that to rerelease then. 😊
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They’re fucking kooking it 100% and I blame it mostly on Tum Yeto and Sinclair. Not excited about Blake Carpenter either. He’s way too bland for Toy Machine IMO.
Fucking basic supply and demand and they’re kooking it bad on the supply!
You’re fucking kooking it by waiting until the last minute to study for your econ. final.
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A revamp of the team might be an OK idea. I know guys like Harmony & Bennett don't get paid a salary, but it's probably unnecessary to have them on the team at this point. I know he hardly skates anymore, and it's his company, for the most part, but does Ed need to officially be on the team? Billy has been a good foot solider, but time to tap him on the shoulder. Not sure what the go with CJ Collins is, are they hoping he turns into a Foy/Zion calibre type skater as he matures? Don't really care about Carpenter/Leabres. Provost has never really fitted on Toy for me. Leo from what I've heard is over the industry as a whole, and his music has become his #1 focus. Indifferent about Axel and Dan Lu. It's not a really relevant team, when you look at it closer.
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Maybe sorting out their dog shit distribution in the UK might help.
You got some TKC beef?
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also what spy marketing bot started this thread :-\
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to harem, i read somewhere that ed wants to retire but his models are the hottest sellers, financing all the less marketable pros like j.casanova did for girl [and look at girl w/out him!].
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Ed saying he barely skates anymore in Heath's epicly later'd bummed me out
Well what I meant was: the reality of one of my idols not being able to skate like he once did, is a bummer. And the mortality realization also a bummer.
If Deanna was to cry though, I would hope the situation would be more like: As i start getting dressed and ready for work, tears stream down her cheek.
" it was a great time Deanna... but you're married. And I'm married. We knew it had to end ... sometime. Unless Ed wants to take pictures.. then it's art for art's sake."
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Ed saying he barely skates anymore in Heath's epicly later'd bummed me out
Well what I meant was: the reality of one of my idols not being able to skate like he once did, is a bummer. And the mortality realization also a bummer.
If Deanna was to cry though, I would hope the situation would be more like: As i start getting dressed and ready for work, tears stream down her cheek.
" it was a great time Deanna... but you're married. And I'm married. We knew it had to end ... sometime. Unless Ed wants to take pictures.. then it's art for art's sake."
Is she crying because the sex was THAT bad?
8) roasted bitch
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Ed saying he barely skates anymore in Heath's epicly later'd bummed me out
Well what I meant was: the reality of one of my idols not being able to skate like he once did, is a bummer. And the mortality realization also a bummer.
If Deanna was to cry though, I would hope the situation would be more like: As i start getting dressed and ready for work, tears stream down her cheek.
" it was a great time Deanna... but you're married. And I'm married. We knew it had to end ... sometime. Unless Ed wants to take pictures.. then it's art for art's sake."
Is she crying because the sex was THAT bad?
8) roasted bitch
Indeed! :P
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Ed - Instead of taking 500 pics a day of 15 yo girls in bikinis at the pier, maybe spend a little time on the brand?
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yea do with your life what this guy on the internet says, fuck your plans ed
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I'm pretty sure Ed has stated multiple times that he doesn't push riders to produce and it's on them to get coverage. If they want to sell boards, then they have to produce footage.
And that's how it should be. Fuck people like Jamie Thomas that in more ways than one control what his riders do on a skateboard..
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I'm pretty sure Ed has stated multiple times that he doesn't push riders to produce and it's on them to get coverage. If they want to sell boards, then they have to produce footage.
And that's how it should be. Fuck people like Jamie Thomas that in more ways than one control what his riders do on a skateboard..
i think if you're the one paying people and relying on them to work so that you can earn money to pay them and pay yourself, you probably need to do your job as a boss and make sure they do their jobs. otherwise nobody gets paid. no major skate company owners do it just for fun. they do it so they can make a living.
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I still picture the Welcome to Hell / Jump Off A Building lineup when I think of Toy Machine, and that is probably what is killing them.
I haven't really been stoked on them as a team since this (although I liked the Butcher era ok) but I don't care about a lot of pro teams. It also feels like they've spun their wheels design wise for 20 years.
Flameboy and Wet Willy aren't hot anymore either.
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hopefully they can make a strong comeback.
on another note, the emails I get from crail/girl weekly seem like such a bummer. its like they're on their last leg of life
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Toy boards are good, I skate em but do kids skate em?
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Just stop making new graphics. Go back to the beginning and rerelease everything over again. Back when it was cleaner and simpler. Hell, just rerelease the Barley smoker board
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One limited run of Bam's mullet deck would be pretty neat. Haven't seen what their art direction looks like these days but I'm hoping it's not the beat-to-death-rehash of the sect and turtle boy still.
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i have never owned nor ran a skate company, but this is my advice for toy:
the hammer days are behind us at least for now, ed you dont need to front blunt handrails, people just want to see you skate, and its perfectly acceptable in 2017 to build a clip around a flatground impossible, lord knows many careers are based on that now and you pretty much own that shit, so stop worrying about what you cant do anymore and have some fun.
you have a winner in dan lu, just give him a van and a filmer and let him make the next video. okay its surely not that simple, but still, i feel like there's room for toy machine on the fun and relatable bandwagon, key is to actually have some fun and be relatable.
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One limited run of Bam's mullet deck would be pretty neat. Haven't seen what their art direction looks like these days but I'm hoping it's not the beat-to-death-rehash of the sect and turtle boy still.
Spot on, except it looks like they hired a CalArts dropout to do their graphics.
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on another note, the emails I get from crail/girl weekly seem like such a bummer. its like they're on their last leg of life
explain
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Had 1 toy deck earlier this year (American monster) but haven't skated them since. Some of the new deck graphics are pretty cool. Feels like classic Toy Machine.
Kick Blake Carpenter off.
Colin Provost is a walking talking nutsack boot him immediately.
Isn't Josh Harmony a racist or something?
Axel crusher is the best team choice they've made in years.
Leabras is good, but has the personality of a bedsheet.
Blew it big time with J-Lay, and Jordan Taylor.
I miss Austin Stephens and his back smiths.
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i have never owned nor ran a skate company, but this is my advice for toy:
the hammer days are behind us at least for now, ed you dont need to front blunt handrails, people just want to see you skate, and its perfectly acceptable in 2017 to build a clip around a flatground impossible, lord knows many careers are based on that now and you pretty much own that shit, so stop worrying about what you cant do anymore and have some fun.
you have a winner in dan lu, just give him a van and a filmer and let him make the next video. okay its surely not that simple, but still, i feel like there's room for toy machine on the fun and relatable bandwagon, key is to actually have some fun and be relatable.
For real..
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just looked at their site. found this.
(http://toymachine.com/media/catalog/product/cache/6/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/t/m/tm_bm_bigpink.jpg)
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Maybe sorting out their dog shit distribution in the UK might help.
and in australia, the distro is a joke
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Maybe sorting out their dog shit distribution in the UK might help.
and in australia, the distro is a joke
Not sure where you are in Australia, but Goliath have their own store in Melbourne where they have most Toy product's available, and if there is something they don't have, they'll order it in for you.
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Toy Machine will be bloodsucking fine. They're doing better than Foundation that's for sure, they're still paying their riders salaries plus royalties. Dan Lu is killing it and Axel has a bright future ahead of him. Will say however, letting Johnny Layton go was a bummer. I've been to enough Toy Machine demos to see that TM followers are die hard fans. Enough to keep them alive, even if just buying Ed's boards for hanging on walls. Not sure how true this is but I've heard through many people and friends who've either worked for Tum Yeto or skate shops, their socks bring in a big chunk in sales.
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Toy, just like Flip needs to go back in the vault and just start rereleasing old graphics from the Mid nineties when they were en fuego. Would actually produce some sales. Part of toys problem is letting dudes who have been on way to long still have boards. I think loyalty is great but not when it's a detriment to your brand. To let guys like tyshawn and Jordan Taylor walk while still giving harmony and billy boards is kinda crazy. Forrest 100% should be on toy, headache or not. Just send him 10 boards and the rest will work it self out.
Also, Ed still need to be on the team. Just like w girl or zero regardless of whether carrol, rickk or Isuck don't produce as much they are the brand and should always have their name on a board as long as they're alive. A lot of this decline should be blamed on Sinclairs inability to spot talent early and put people on.
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Toy is a better legacy brand than Zero, Flip, Girl etc.. in the sense that it will never not be cool to ride a Toy board in the streets.
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Once Ed mentally checked out and Sinclair took over TM duties for all of Tum Yeto it just became Foundation with a better reputation. Same kinds of skaters, no weirdos, nothing special. Dan Lu and Leo are the only ones that seem like Toy Machine weirdos to me and that ain't enough. They went lazy with the graphics turning turtle boy and the orange thing into Flameboy and Wet Willy and people lost interest. It's a bummer but no company deserves to be around forever.
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Toy Machine has always been one of my favorites, they are unfortunately well past their glory days but they still had some steam through the 2000s. I'm basically just reiterating what others have said, but if Ed got back in the ring a bit more (company wise, I understand his skating won't ever be what it was and that's totally reasonable) I think Toy could regain it's footing. Even stale pizza can be kinda fixed if you throw it in the oven. (that's pretty clever, right?)
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Dude cj collins is AM for the machine and Tre Williams isnt even oficially on the team, wtf and the lil cj fucks with red bull... that's so wack. But i would by a Leabres or Dan lu board for sure
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Just looked through the boards on their website last night and they definitely have a lot of good graphics. No idea why they only give shops the shitty ones.
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stale pizza
hip band name