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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: Killyoureself4000 on December 17, 2017, 10:46:19 PM
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Its true
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Proof or it didn't happen.
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I guess Yoshi found out why
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I guess Yoshi found out why
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Come one, come all.
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Damn, he seemed like a good fit on Vans. But like always, $ talks.
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So fucked if Nike decides to add on again. But then again, shit on Saran Wrap on your buddies face, get the boot. >:(
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Sucks if true. Seems like Vans would/could match that money. Really surprised they'd let him go.
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So fucked if Nike decides to add on again. But then again, smoke a weed, get the boot. >:(
yet somehow this does not apply to Kevin Bradley.
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Sucks if true. Seems like Vans would/could match that money. Really surprised they'd let him go.
Depends if he was a restricted or unrestricted free agent. Maybe vans was already struggling against the salary cap from adding ronnie and Lizzie going pro. Could be a good move to help them restructure to be in a position to add new talent for next season
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Sucks if true. Seems like Vans would/could match that money. Really surprised they'd let him go.
Depends if he was a restricted or unrestricted free agent. Maybe vans was already struggling against the salary cap from adding ronnie and Lizzie going pro. Could be a good move to help them restructure to be in a position to add new talent for next season
I genuinely enjoyed this post.
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So fucked if Nike decides to add on again. But then again, smoke a weed, get the boot. >:(
As as been mentioned, Hewitt was kicked off for the pooing on the face comment not the reefer.
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So fucked if Nike decides to add on again. But then again, smoke a weed, get the boot. >:(
But more specifically he was kicked off because a kid’s mom read about it and made a fuss, right?
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also heard this
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Seems really weird.. Isn't he really against redbull/nike and more in a "core" kind of mentality ? That's what I thought.
Again money talks, and he deserves to get paid as much as possible
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Seems really weird.. Isn't he really against redbull/nike and more in a "core" kind of mentality ? That's what I thought.
Again money talks, and he deserves to get paid as much as possible
He would've stayed with Vans if they could keep up with his ideas.
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All of these ideas are giving me the most solid justice boner, it's erectile.
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So fucked if Nike decides to add on again. But then again, smoke a weed, get the boot. >:(
yet somehow this does not apply to Kevin Bradley.
KB isn't the only swoosh rider burning the devils lettuce....
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So fucked if Nike decides to add on again. But then again, smoke a weed, get the boot. >:(
yet somehow this does not apply to Kevin Bradley.
Hang on a second now, kid, that's a pretty big claim. I don't think you know what you're getting yourself in to with that kind of talk. My advice to you is to just drop it. You're chasing shadows, okay? Just. Drop it.
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So fucked if Nike decides to add on again. But then again, smoke a weed, get the boot. >:(
yet somehow this does not apply to Kevin Bradley.
check your privilege
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nike sponsoring daan VS vans sponsoring that "damn daniel" white vans meme kid
core
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now he can afford a condo in san francisco.
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We really believing this euro tm bullshit
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1.500.000,00 $ for 5 years contract
Then extra to his family
good deal no?
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I heard it was only $20 for the rest of the day
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We really believing this euro tm bullshit
Don’t you know everything on slap comes true?
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but is it nike euro team?
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1.500.000,00 $ for 5 years contract
Then extra to his family
good deal no?
Confirmed by Italian TM mario
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So fucked if Nike decides to add on again. But then again, smoke a weed, get the boot. >:(
Pretty sure, its shit on someones face as a prank, talk about it in an interview, and get the boot.
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So fucked if Nike decides to add on again. But then again, smoke a weed, get the boot. >:(
But more specifically he was kicked off because a kid’s mom read about it and made a fuss, right?
Pretty sure the mom who read it was a higher up Nike executive, not some random mom calling in making a fuss.
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This is one thing I hope slap is wrong about.
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Someone should cut together a video of MJ, Daan and everyone else who said they would never ride a corporate shoe skating the exact same brand they said they would never skate for.
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i call bullshit
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This is one thing I hope slap is wrong about.
Nope, unfortunatly not....wait and see
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This is one thing I hope slap is wrong about.
I don’t want to believe. His footage in slip on pros is priceless.
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I thought this was going to be a thread about what Daan thinks about Nike bitches.
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Someone should cut together a video of MJ, Daan and everyone else who said they would never ride a corporate shoe skating the exact same brand they said they would never skate for.
When did Daan talk shit about Nike?
Link?
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Big deal, Kelly Bird openly talked shit and now he helps run Nike SB.
Daan wants to travel with Grant and Ishod.
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Big deal, Kelly Bird openly talked shit and now he helps run Nike SB.
Daan wants to travel with Grant and Ishod.
Or all the other northeastern Europeans killers Nike sponsors
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Raney on Converse too
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heard he has a pro model coming out for vans early next year but the nike contract is basically a done deal. dude is gonna bank
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I thought he just did a vans/spitfire shoe?
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Me watching the inevitable Grant + Daan Nike project
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZltVL-wn4Xk
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Someone should cut together a video of MJ, Daan and everyone else who said they would never ride a corporate shoe skating the exact same brand they said they would never skate for.
When did Daan talk shit about Nike?
Link?
I think it was a video interview while sitting on a couch with Dustin Dollin. They were hyping up ''Holy Stokes'' or something? He didn't talk shit, just said that Big Shoe wasn't cool.
+REGS thank you for pulling that outta your archive and illustrating exactly how we're all gonna feel.
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Someone should cut together a video of MJ, Daan and everyone else who said they would never ride a corporate shoe skating the exact same brand they said they would never skate for.
When did Daan talk shit about Nike?
Link?
+REGS thank you for pulling that outta your archive and illustrating exactly how we're all gonna feel.
You're thinking about Dustin's Route One interview where Dustin talks shit about Red Bull.
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Someone should cut together a video of MJ, Daan and everyone else who said they would never ride a corporate shoe skating the exact same brand they said they would never skate for.
When did Daan talk shit about Nike?
Link?
+REGS thank you for pulling that outta your archive and illustrating exactly how we're all gonna feel.
You're thinking about Dustin's Route One interview where Dustin talks shit about Red Bull.
Being on vans and complaining about Nike being corporate is like being on the bucks and complaining the lakers are professional basketball. Or maybe I’ve just eaten eight rice krispy treats. /starwipe
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Who care, Nike already won. Get that money Daan.
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So fucked if Nike decides to add on again. But then again, smoke a weed, get the boot. >:(
yet somehow this does not apply to Kevin Bradley.
A dad has to write a letter to the CEO about it first.
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Big deal, Kelly Bird openly talked shit and now he helps run Nike SB.
Daan wants to travel with Grant and Ishod.
Which is still lame. And saying 'I want to travel with Grant and Ishod' is stupid too since he travels with them all the time on DLX and Thrasher trips. Just say 'I want the extra money' and own up to your motivations. Don't bullshit us.
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This fucking sucks if it’s true. Where’s the volcom guy to clear this up?
Fucking nike.
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misread thread title and thought it was about naan. fuck i love indian food
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Big deal, Kelly Bird openly talked shit and now he helps run Nike SB.
Daan wants to travel with Grant and Ishod.
Which is still lame. And saying 'I want to travel with Grant and Ishod' is stupid too since he travels with them all the time on DLX and Thrasher trips. Just say 'I want the extra money' and own up to your motivations. Don't bullshit us.
He hasn’t said anything on the topic or really any topic and doesn’t owe anyone an explanation. He’s not Jawbreaker. Jesus, the kid’s been around for a little under two years.
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i call bullshit
Unfortunately it is true. I was looking over the Vans Fall line for 2018 a couple weeks back and there was a Daan pro colour way slip on shoe. They said it is no longer the Daan color and he was no longer with Vans.
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That's weird as fuck... Gotta be a Kaspar dutch connection.
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Raney on Converse too
this one I know to be fact.
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Big deal, Kelly Bird openly talked shit and now he helps run Nike SB.
Daan wants to travel with Grant and Ishod.
Which is still lame. And saying 'I want to travel with Grant and Ishod' is stupid too since he travels with them all the time on DLX and Thrasher trips. Just say 'I want the extra money' and own up to your motivations. Don't bullshit us.
He hasn’t said anything on the topic or really any topic and doesn’t owe anyone an explanation. He’s not Jawbreaker. Jesus, the kid’s been around for a little under two years.
hahahaha
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Feels weird after listening to that Alex Olson episode of the bunt. He made it seem like the difference in Nike pay vs Vans pay was pretty negligible. I’m pretty bummed on this for some reason. I fuck with Nike enough , but I liked him on vans. for some reason all the best dudes just kill in slip ons or authentics and it just makes them all the gnarlier. No one trips on a gnarly trick in blazers or dunks.
Maybe I’m just still in love with that vans ad Dylan had 50-50 Ollie over a pole in authentics. It’s been like a decade and I’m still psyched on that.
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Dissertations could be written about how prolific Vans has been at putting off an authentic and core image despite their current colossal corporate standing.
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Dissertations could be written about how prolific Vans has been at putting off an authentic and core image despite their current colossal corporate standing.
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Dissertations could be written about how prolific Vans has been at putting off an authentic and core image despite their current colossal corporate standing.
They get a pass. They have been supporting skateboarding since day one, their team has that "crew" mentality that makes a skate company a skate company, and not just a sporting team like nike or adidas.
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Dissertations could be written about how prolific Vans has been at putting off an authentic and core image despite their current colossal corporate standing.
They get a pass. They have been supporting skateboarding since day one, their team has that "crew" mentality that makes a skate company a skate company, and not just a sporting team like nike or adidas.
So the marketing works, then?
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Dissertations could be written about how prolific Vans has been at putting off an authentic and core image despite their current colossal corporate standing.
They get a pass. They have been supporting skateboarding since day one, their team has that "crew" mentality that makes a skate company a skate company, and not just a sporting team like nike or adidas.
So the marketing works, then?
Pretty significant difference between being a successful sportswear company and branching into skateboarding strictly for profit and being a successful skateboard shoe company and becoming successful in the mainstream. They've been making skateboard specific shoes since 1976 and went bankrupt doing it before making it big time. I know they are owned by VF now, but i still think the trajectory is relevant in their "core" status. I don't wear them anymore, but that's equal parts having busted as feet and wanting to support smaller companies.
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Big deal, Kelly Bird openly talked shit and now he helps run Nike SB.
Daan wants to travel with Grant and Ishod.
Which is still lame. And saying 'I want to travel with Grant and Ishod' is stupid too since he travels with them all the time on DLX and Thrasher trips. Just say 'I want the extra money' and own up to your motivations. Don't bullshit us.
Yeah but DLX travel is A Van in the US.
Nike pays for plane tickets without flinching probably.
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Dissertations could be written about how prolific Vans has been at putting off an authentic and core image despite their current colossal corporate standing.
They get a pass. They have been supporting skateboarding since day one, their team has that "crew" mentality that makes a skate company a skate company, and not just a sporting team like nike or adidas.
So the marketing works, then?
Pretty significant difference between being a successful sportswear company and branching into skateboarding strictly for profit and being a successful skateboard shoe company and becoming successful in the mainstream. They've been making skateboard specific shoes since 1976 and went bankrupt doing it before making it big time. I know they are owned by VF now, but i still think the trajectory is relevant in their "core" status. I don't wear them anymore, but that's equal parts having busted as feet and wanting to support smaller companies.
also think about the guys who've been on for decades, Cab, Cardiel, Hassan etc
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Dissertations could be written about how prolific Vans has been at putting off an authentic and core image despite their current colossal corporate standing.
They get a pass. They have been supporting skateboarding since day one, their team has that "crew" mentality that makes a skate company a skate company, and not just a sporting team like nike or adidas.
So the marketing works, then?
Pretty significant difference between being a successful sportswear company and branching into skateboarding strictly for profit and being a successful skateboard shoe company and becoming successful in the mainstream. They've been making skateboard specific shoes since 1976 and went bankrupt doing it before making it big time. I know they are owned by VF now, but i still think the trajectory is relevant in their "core" status. I don't wear them anymore, but that's equal parts having busted as feet and wanting to support smaller companies.
Exactly. If Nike started making shoes for skateboarders in the 70s, through every ebb and flow, thick and thin for 40 years, they'd be considered as legit as Vans.
And while the first skate-specific shoes weren't mass produced until '76, they were custom-making shoes for Peralta and Alva in the early '70s and were the first company to actually pay skateboarders whether they won contests or not.
Corporately owned now, sure, but surely there's a difference? That's how I feel anyway. HUF and Lakai are now technically corporately owned too, right?
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Dissertations could be written about how prolific Vans has been at putting off an authentic and core image despite their current colossal corporate standing.
They get a pass. They have been supporting skateboarding since day one, their team has that "crew" mentality that makes a skate company a skate company, and not just a sporting team like nike or adidas.
So the marketing works, then?
Pretty significant difference between being a successful sportswear company and branching into skateboarding strictly for profit and being a successful skateboard shoe company and becoming successful in the mainstream. They've been making skateboard specific shoes since 1976 and went bankrupt doing it before making it big time. I know they are owned by VF now, but i still think the trajectory is relevant in their "core" status. I don't wear them anymore, but that's equal parts having busted as feet and wanting to support smaller companies.
Exactly. If Nike started making shoes for skateboarders in the 70s, through every ebb and flow, thick and thin for 40 years, they'd be considered as legit as Vans.
And while the first skate-specific shoes weren't mass produced until '76, they were custom-making shoes for Peralta and Alva in the early '70s and were the first company to actually pay skateboarders whether they won contests or not.
Corporately owned now, sure, but surely there's a difference? That's how I feel anyway. HUF and Lakai are now technically corporately owned too, right?
what happened to your quote about Etnies being owned by a frenchman who never stepped foot on a skateboard? Pierre Andre, while a freestlyer, has most definitely stepped on a board, and in the freestyle world, he kinda killed it (for whatever that's worth)
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Dissertations could be written about how prolific Vans has been at putting off an authentic and core image despite their current colossal corporate standing.
They get a pass. They have been supporting skateboarding since day one, their team has that "crew" mentality that makes a skate company a skate company, and not just a sporting team like nike or adidas.
So the marketing works, then?
Pretty significant difference between being a successful sportswear company and branching into skateboarding strictly for profit and being a successful skateboard shoe company and becoming successful in the mainstream. They've been making skateboard specific shoes since 1976 and went bankrupt doing it before making it big time. I know they are owned by VF now, but i still think the trajectory is relevant in their "core" status. I don't wear them anymore, but that's equal parts having busted as feet and wanting to support smaller companies.
Exactly. If Nike started making shoes for skateboarders in the 70s, through every ebb and flow, thick and thin for 40 years, they'd be considered as legit as Vans.
And while the first skate-specific shoes weren't mass produced until '76, they were custom-making shoes for Peralta and Alva in the early '70s and were the first company to actually pay skateboarders whether they won contests or not.
Corporately owned now, sure, but surely there's a difference? That's how I feel anyway. HUF and Lakai are now technically corporately owned too, right?
I was referring more to the "their team has that "crew" mentality" part but I guess my fault for not pointing at it.
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Dissertations could be written about how prolific Vans has been at putting off an authentic and core image despite their current colossal corporate standing.
So the marketing works, then?
Pretty significant difference between being a successful sportswear company and branching into skateboarding strictly for profit and being a successful skateboard shoe company and becoming successful in the mainstream. They've been making skateboard specific shoes since 1976 and went bankrupt doing it before making it big time. I know they are owned by VF now, but i still think the trajectory is relevant in their "core" status. I don't wear them anymore, but that's equal parts having busted as feet and wanting to support smaller companies.
Exactly. If Nike started making shoes for skateboarders in the 70s, through every ebb and flow, thick and thin for 40 years, they'd be considered as legit as Vans.
And while the first skate-specific shoes weren't mass produced until '76, they were custom-making shoes for Peralta and Alva in the early '70s and were the first company to actually pay skateboarders whether they won contests or not.
Corporately owned now, sure, but surely there's a difference? That's how I feel anyway. HUF and Lakai are now technically corporately owned too, right?
I was referring more to the "their team has that "crew" mentality" part but I guess my fault for not pointing at it.
Ah, I see where you're coming from there. The video was amazing and the team is definitely cohesive, but I'm not seeing them as a bunch of homies. Which I'm fine with really, they produced a well rounded team, ain't everyone gotta be best friends.
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Dissertations could be written about how prolific Vans has been at putting off an authentic and core image despite their current colossal corporate standing.
So the marketing works, then?
Pretty significant difference between being a successful sportswear company and branching into skateboarding strictly for profit and being a successful skateboard shoe company and becoming successful in the mainstream. They've been making skateboard specific shoes since 1976 and went bankrupt doing it before making it big time. I know they are owned by VF now, but i still think the trajectory is relevant in their "core" status. I don't wear them anymore, but that's equal parts having busted as feet and wanting to support smaller companies.
Exactly. If Nike started making shoes for skateboarders in the 70s, through every ebb and flow, thick and thin for 40 years, they'd be considered as legit as Vans.
And while the first skate-specific shoes weren't mass produced until '76, they were custom-making shoes for Peralta and Alva in the early '70s and were the first company to actually pay skateboarders whether they won contests or not.
Corporately owned now, sure, but surely there's a difference? That's how I feel anyway. HUF and Lakai are now technically corporately owned too, right?
I was referring more to the "their team has that "crew" mentality" part but I guess my fault for not pointing at it.
Ah, I see where you're coming from there. The video was amazing and the team is definitely cohesive, but I'm not seeing them as a bunch of homies. Which I'm fine with really, they produced a well rounded team, ain't everyone gotta be best friends.
I agree with you and am wearing vans so it works on me too.
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Dissertations could be written about how prolific Vans has been at putting off an authentic and core image despite their current colossal corporate standing.
They get a pass. They have been supporting skateboarding since day one, their team has that "crew" mentality that makes a skate company a skate company, and not just a sporting team like nike or adidas.
So the marketing works, then?
Pretty significant difference between being a successful sportswear company and branching into skateboarding strictly for profit and being a successful skateboard shoe company and becoming successful in the mainstream. They've been making skateboard specific shoes since 1976 and went bankrupt doing it before making it big time. I know they are owned by VF now, but i still think the trajectory is relevant in their "core" status. I don't wear them anymore, but that's equal parts having busted as feet and wanting to support smaller companies.
Nike does want to make a profit for sure. As for any business that fact can't be denied, but the decision to launch the SB program might not be "strictly" to make money. Nike is a shoe company so a desire to make shoes for various activities must already exist within right? So why wouldnt a shoe company that makes shoes for pretty much all the sports not want be involved in Skateboarding. Of course the high volume of shoes consumed by skaters is a major draw, but through SB they get to work with lots of fresh talented young designers, athletes, artists, fashion designers, media moguls, photographer, etc. Im sure the SB programs is one of the more fun projects going at Nike. would SB be dropped if was suddenly not profitable, maybe, but I still think there is a passion for making shoes behind the program.
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Feels weird after listening to that Alex Olson episode of the bunt. He made it seem like the difference in Nike pay vs Vans pay was pretty negligible. I’m pretty bummed on this for some reason. I fuck with Nike enough , but I liked him on vans. for some reason all the best dudes just kill in slip ons or authentics and it just makes them all the gnarlier. No one trips on a gnarly trick in blazers or dunks.
Maybe I’m just still in love with that vans ad Dylan had 50-50 Ollie over a pole in authentics. It’s been like a decade and I’m still psyched on that.
skating in eras or authentics is never not cool. but dunks not looking cool? idk some old BA footage or gino stuff is kinda cool too.
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Dissertations could be written about how prolific Vans has been at putting off an authentic and core image despite their current colossal corporate standing.
So the marketing works, then?
Pretty significant difference between being a successful sportswear company and branching into skateboarding strictly for profit and being a successful skateboard shoe company and becoming successful in the mainstream. They've been making skateboard specific shoes since 1976 and went bankrupt doing it before making it big time. I know they are owned by VF now, but i still think the trajectory is relevant in their "core" status. I don't wear them anymore, but that's equal parts having busted as feet and wanting to support smaller companies.
Nike does want to make a profit for sure. As for any business that fact can't be denied, but the decision to launch the SB program might not be "strictly" to make money. Nike is a shoe company so a desire to make shoes for various activities must already exist within right? So why wouldnt a shoe company that makes shoes for pretty much all the sports not want be involved in Skateboarding. Of course the high volume of shoes consumed by skaters is a major draw, but through SB they get to work with lots of fresh talented young designers, athletes, artists, fashion designers, media moguls, photographer, etc. Im sure the SB programs is one of the more fun projects going at Nike. would SB be dropped if was suddenly not profitable, maybe, but I still think there is a passion for making shoes behind the program.
I have no doubt it's a fun place to work (mandatory side note in regards to all footwear production conversation: except for the factory employees). Tons of money means suite digs, best of the best designers and artists, a stacked team. I just disagree that there's a maybe about it. They got into golf, another place where innovation and design is critical, and bounced when it didn't go well. Hell they did it in skateboarding twice already, I think. Furthermore, while Lakai and Emerica are going on tour together, Nike has engaged in practices designed to suppress the sales of its competitors. I know they are a company and profits are integral, but there's a big, and I think relevant, difference between Nike and skater owned brands.
It's an old coversation, if we don't agree what Nike is all about at this point we probably won't, but I stand by my claim that it is 100% about the profits.
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Big deal, Kelly Bird openly talked shit and now he helps run Nike SB.
Daan wants to travel with Grant and Ishod.
Which is still lame. And saying 'I want to travel with Grant and Ishod' is stupid too since he travels with them all the time on DLX and Thrasher trips. Just say 'I want the extra money' and own up to your motivations. Don't bullshit us.
Nike pays for plane tickets without flinching probably.
Didn't Spitfire just drop a video of a tour all over Europe (with Daan, Grant, and Ishod included amongst plenty of others)?
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Didn't Spitfire just drop a video of a tour all over Europe (with Daan, Grant, and Ishod included amongst plenty of others)?
was that not a co thrasher thing too? i think that was a jump in the van trip anyway
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Feels weird after listening to that Alex Olson episode of the bunt. He made it seem like the difference in Nike pay vs Vans pay was pretty negligible. I’m pretty bummed on this for some reason. I fuck with Nike enough , but I liked him on vans. for some reason all the best dudes just kill in slip ons or authentics and it just makes them all the gnarlier. No one trips on a gnarly trick in blazers or dunks.
Maybe I’m just still in love with that vans ad Dylan had 50-50 Ollie over a pole in authentics. It’s been like a decade and I’m still psyched on that.
skating in eras or authentics is never not cool. but dunks not looking cool? idk some old BA footage or gino stuff is kinda cool too.
I was more getting at stuff Rowley or chima jumping down shit in authentics or eras, just knowing that shoe provides such little support and they’re getting some crazy trick in it compared to the dunk where you know that shoe is nice and cozy for jumping down something. Also Daan with that giant backtail in the spitfire edit in just the slip on pros.
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Dissertations could be written about how prolific Vans has been at putting off an authentic and core image despite their current colossal corporate standing.
So the marketing works, then?
Pretty significant difference between being a successful sportswear company and branching into skateboarding strictly for profit and being a successful skateboard shoe company and becoming successful in the mainstream. They've been making skateboard specific shoes since 1976 and went bankrupt doing it before making it big time. I know they are owned by VF now, but i still think the trajectory is relevant in their "core" status. I don't wear them anymore, but that's equal parts having busted as feet and wanting to support smaller companies.
Nike does want to make a profit for sure. As for any business that fact can't be denied, but the decision to launch the SB program might not be "strictly" to make money. Nike is a shoe company so a desire to make shoes for various activities must already exist within right? So why wouldnt a shoe company that makes shoes for pretty much all the sports not want be involved in Skateboarding. Of course the high volume of shoes consumed by skaters is a major draw, but through SB they get to work with lots of fresh talented young designers, athletes, artists, fashion designers, media moguls, photographer, etc. Im sure the SB programs is one of the more fun projects going at Nike. would SB be dropped if was suddenly not profitable, maybe, but I still think there is a passion for making shoes behind the program.
I have no doubt it's a fun place to work (mandatory side note in regards to all footwear production conversation: except for the factory employees). Tons of money means suite digs, best of the best designers and artists, a stacked team. I just disagree that there's a maybe about it. They got into golf, another place where innovation and design is critical, and bounced when it didn't go well. Hell they did it in skateboarding twice already, I think. Furthermore, while Lakai and Emerica are going on tour together, Nike has engaged in practices designed to suppress the sales of its competitors. I know they are a company and profits are integral, but there's a big, and I think relevant, difference between Nike and skater owned brands.
It's an old coversation, if we don't agree what Nike is all about at this point we probably won't, but I stand by my claim that it is 100% about the profits.
Nike actually makes really dope golf shoes still. they just dropped the hardgoods line and dont make clubs anymore. Converse however started as a basketball shoe company. They dropped the entire basketball shoe program and only make lifestyle shoes and skate shoes. No skaters seem to care about that tho. Also are Lakai and Emerica both owned by the same mega corp?
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Dissertations could be written about how prolific Vans has been at putting off an authentic and core image despite their current colossal corporate standing.
So the marketing works, then?
Pretty significant difference between being a successful sportswear company and branching into skateboarding strictly for profit and being a successful skateboard shoe company and becoming successful in the mainstream. They've been making skateboard specific shoes since 1976 and went bankrupt doing it before making it big time. I know they are owned by VF now, but i still think the trajectory is relevant in their "core" status. I don't wear them anymore, but that's equal parts having busted as feet and wanting to support smaller companies.
Nike does want to make a profit for sure. As for any business that fact can't be denied, but the decision to launch the SB program might not be "strictly" to make money. Nike is a shoe company so a desire to make shoes for various activities must already exist within right? So why wouldnt a shoe company that makes shoes for pretty much all the sports not want be involved in Skateboarding. Of course the high volume of shoes consumed by skaters is a major draw, but through SB they get to work with lots of fresh talented young designers, athletes, artists, fashion designers, media moguls, photographer, etc. Im sure the SB programs is one of the more fun projects going at Nike. would SB be dropped if was suddenly not profitable, maybe, but I still think there is a passion for making shoes behind the program.
I have no doubt it's a fun place to work (mandatory side note in regards to all footwear production conversation: except for the factory employees). Tons of money means suite digs, best of the best designers and artists, a stacked team. I just disagree that there's a maybe about it. They got into golf, another place where innovation and design is critical, and bounced when it didn't go well. Hell they did it in skateboarding twice already, I think. Furthermore, while Lakai and Emerica are going on tour together, Nike has engaged in practices designed to suppress the sales of its competitors. I know they are a company and profits are integral, but there's a big, and I think relevant, difference between Nike and skater owned brands.
It's an old coversation, if we don't agree what Nike is all about at this point we probably won't, but I stand by my claim that it is 100% about the profits.
Nike actually makes really dope golf shoes still. they just dropped the hardgoods line and dont make clubs anymore. Converse however started as a basketball shoe company. They dropped the entire basketball shoe program and only make lifestyle shoes and skate shoes. No skaters seem to care about that tho. Also are Lakai and Emerica both owned by the same mega corp?
No. Emerica is owned by Sole Tech, who owns Etnies and éS too. Lakai is now owned by whatever investment company it was that bought out HUF, used to be Crailtap back when they did the tour.
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Didn't Spitfire just drop a video of a tour all over Europe (with Daan, Grant, and Ishod included amongst plenty of others)?
was that not a co thrasher thing too? i think that was a jump in the van trip anyway
Pretty sure everyone was already over there for Copenhagen, and they made a trip from that. I'm sure a bunch of sponsors footed the bill to get them out there in the first place.
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Dissertations could be written about how prolific Vans has been at putting off an authentic and core image despite their current colossal corporate standing.
So the marketing works, then?
Pretty significant difference between being a successful sportswear company and branching into skateboarding strictly for profit and being a successful skateboard shoe company and becoming successful in the mainstream. They've been making skateboard specific shoes since 1976 and went bankrupt doing it before making it big time. I know they are owned by VF now, but i still think the trajectory is relevant in their "core" status. I don't wear them anymore, but that's equal parts having busted as feet and wanting to support smaller companies.
Nike does want to make a profit for sure. As for any business that fact can't be denied, but the decision to launch the SB program might not be "strictly" to make money. Nike is a shoe company so a desire to make shoes for various activities must already exist within right? So why wouldnt a shoe company that makes shoes for pretty much all the sports not want be involved in Skateboarding. Of course the high volume of shoes consumed by skaters is a major draw, but through SB they get to work with lots of fresh talented young designers, athletes, artists, fashion designers, media moguls, photographer, etc. Im sure the SB programs is one of the more fun projects going at Nike. would SB be dropped if was suddenly not profitable, maybe, but I still think there is a passion for making shoes behind the program.
I have no doubt it's a fun place to work (mandatory side note in regards to all footwear production conversation: except for the factory employees). Tons of money means suite digs, best of the best designers and artists, a stacked team. I just disagree that there's a maybe about it. They got into golf, another place where innovation and design is critical, and bounced when it didn't go well. Hell they did it in skateboarding twice already, I think. Furthermore, while Lakai and Emerica are going on tour together, Nike has engaged in practices designed to suppress the sales of its competitors. I know they are a company and profits are integral, but there's a big, and I think relevant, difference between Nike and skater owned brands.
It's an old coversation, if we don't agree what Nike is all about at this point we probably won't, but I stand by my claim that it is 100% about the profits.
Nike actually makes really dope golf shoes still. they just dropped the hardgoods line and dont make clubs anymore. Converse however started as a basketball shoe company. They dropped the entire basketball shoe program and only make lifestyle shoes and skate shoes. No skaters seem to care about that tho. Also are Lakai and Emerica both owned by the same mega corp?
Huh? Not sure how that relates to the topic at hand
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Dissertations could be written about how prolific Vans has been at putting off an authentic and core image despite their current colossal corporate standing.
So the marketing works, then?
Pretty significant difference between being a successful sportswear company and branching into skateboarding strictly for profit and being a successful skateboard shoe company and becoming successful in the mainstream. They've been making skateboard specific shoes since 1976 and went bankrupt doing it before making it big time. I know they are owned by VF now, but i still think the trajectory is relevant in their "core" status. I don't wear them anymore, but that's equal parts having busted as feet and wanting to support smaller companies.
Nike does want to make a profit for sure. As for any business that fact can't be denied, but the decision to launch the SB program might not be "strictly" to make money. Nike is a shoe company so a desire to make shoes for various activities must already exist within right? So why wouldnt a shoe company that makes shoes for pretty much all the sports not want be involved in Skateboarding. Of course the high volume of shoes consumed by skaters is a major draw, but through SB they get to work with lots of fresh talented young designers, athletes, artists, fashion designers, media moguls, photographer, etc. Im sure the SB programs is one of the more fun projects going at Nike. would SB be dropped if was suddenly not profitable, maybe, but I still think there is a passion for making shoes behind the program.
I have no doubt it's a fun place to work (mandatory side note in regards to all footwear production conversation: except for the factory employees). Tons of money means suite digs, best of the best designers and artists, a stacked team. I just disagree that there's a maybe about it. They got into golf, another place where innovation and design is critical, and bounced when it didn't go well. Hell they did it in skateboarding twice already, I think. Furthermore, while Lakai and Emerica are going on tour together, Nike has engaged in practices designed to suppress the sales of its competitors. I know they are a company and profits are integral, but there's a big, and I think relevant, difference between Nike and skater owned brands.
It's an old coversation, if we don't agree what Nike is all about at this point we probably won't, but I stand by my claim that it is 100% about the profits.
Nike actually makes really dope golf shoes still. they just dropped the hardgoods line and dont make clubs anymore. Converse however started as a basketball shoe company. They dropped the entire basketball shoe program and only make lifestyle shoes and skate shoes. No skaters seem to care about that tho. Also are Lakai and Emerica both owned by the same mega corp?
Not incredibly interesting but converse didn’t exclusively do Basketball shoes, one of their earliest shoes is the Jack Purcell, arguably as iconic as the chuck, who was a Badminton player. They also made tennis shoes, soccer shoes even ice skates very briefly. Like their contemporaries in sports wear they have tried most things.
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In snowboarding (yeah, I went there) Nike came in, made some "innovative" boots and scooped up a very large team of contest riders only to pull the plug when they decided skateboarding would be more marketable...
Their SB division is no different. When it's not cool anymore they'll pull out.
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In snowboarding (yeah, I went there) Nike came in, made some "innovative" boots and scooped up a very large team of contest riders only to pull the plug when they decided skateboarding would be more marketable...
Their SB division is no different. When it's not cool anymore they'll pull out.
no way!
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chipped tail is flow for nike and to stay on the program he has to come on here and repeatedly defend them
Look, the swoosh is ugly, old and tired, it's been there your whole life, it looks like crap in footy especially when it's on every piece of clothing someone is wearing, it detracts from footage.
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In snowboarding (yeah, I went there) Nike came in, made some "innovative" boots and scooped up a very large team of contest riders only to pull the plug when they decided skateboarding would be more marketable...
Their SB division is no different. When it's not cool anymore they'll pull out.
no way!
So if Nike pulls out tomorrow (after 15 or so years) that’s shitty of them, but if they stay around that’s shitty of them.
I don’t know much about snowboarding, but it seems like boots are a one time purchase, whereas skateboarding destroys shoes and requires replacements.
Don’t people get tired of all this fear mongering about Nike? We just went through worrying about Nike “culling” their team because one flow/am rider got cut and instead of kicking everyone off, they added an amazing skater.
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In snowboarding (yeah, I went there) Nike came in, made some "innovative" boots and scooped up a very large team of contest riders only to pull the plug when they decided skateboarding would be more marketable...
Their SB division is no different. When it's not cool anymore they'll pull out.
no way!
So if Nike pulls out tomorrow (after 15 or so years) that’s shitty of them, but if they stay around that’s shitty of them.
I don’t know much about snowboarding, but it seems like boots are a one time purchase, whereas skateboarding destroys shoes and requires replacements.
Don’t people get tired of all this fear mongering about Nike? We just went through worrying about Nike “culling” their team because one flow/am rider got cut and instead of kicking everyone off, they added an amazing skater.
I'm kind of impartial about nike but I was just surprised to see all this talk about them killing their golf program and none about their snowboard program whenever ago.
Snowboard boots can get pretty beat up, but you obviously wouldn't be replacing them like you would with shoes.
Isn't snowboarding a pretty big deal in the Olympics? I would think that would be motive enough to stay involved in the industry.
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In snowboarding (yeah, I went there) Nike came in, made some "innovative" boots and scooped up a very large team of contest riders only to pull the plug when they decided skateboarding would be more marketable...
Their SB division is no different. When it's not cool anymore they'll pull out.
no way!
So if Nike pulls out tomorrow (after 15 or so years) that’s shitty of them, but if they stay around that’s shitty of them.
I don’t know much about snowboarding, but it seems like boots are a one time purchase, whereas skateboarding destroys shoes and requires replacements.
Don’t people get tired of all this fear mongering about Nike? We just went through worrying about Nike “culling” their team because one flow/am rider got cut and instead of kicking everyone off, they added an amazing skater.
I'm kind of impartial about nike but I was just surprised to see all this talk about them killing their golf program and none about their snowboard program whenever ago.
Snowboard boots can get pretty beat up, but you obviously wouldn't be replacing them like you would with shoes.
Isn't snowboarding a pretty big deal in the Olympics? I would think that would be motive enough to stay involved in the industry.
My guess would be it’s because snowboarding is geographically restrictive and has probably grown as much (shaun white era) as it will ever grow
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Snowboard boots last me about 2 seasons depending on how hard I ride them
Maybe I’m just still in love with that vans ad Dylan had 50-50 Ollie over a pole in authentics. It’s been like a decade and I’m still psyched on that.
I’d love to see this
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In snowboarding (yeah, I went there) Nike came in, made some "innovative" boots and scooped up a very large team of contest riders only to pull the plug when they decided skateboarding would be more marketable...
Their SB division is no different. When it's not cool anymore they'll pull out.
no way!
So if Nike pulls out tomorrow (after 15 or so years) that’s shitty of them, but if they stay around that’s shitty of them.
I don’t know much about snowboarding, but it seems like boots are a one time purchase, whereas skateboarding destroys shoes and requires replacements.
Don’t people get tired of all this fear mongering about Nike? We just went through worrying about Nike “culling” their team because one flow/am rider got cut and instead of kicking everyone off, they added an amazing skater.
I'm kind of impartial about nike but I was just surprised to see all this talk about them killing their golf program and none about their snowboard program whenever ago.
Snowboard boots can get pretty beat up, but you obviously wouldn't be replacing them like you would with shoes.
Isn't snowboarding a pretty big deal in the Olympics? I would think that would be motive enough to stay involved in the industry.
The Olympics hurt snowboarding real bad. It used to be the cool/rebel thing to do on the slopes but after it became just another olympic sport the kids weren't so drawn to it anymore and freestyle skiing became the cool thing to do.
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In snowboarding (yeah, I went there) Nike came in, made some "innovative" boots and scooped up a very large team of contest riders only to pull the plug when they decided skateboarding would be more marketable...
Their SB division is no different. When it's not cool anymore they'll pull out.
no way!
So if Nike pulls out tomorrow (after 15 or so years) that’s shitty of them, but if they stay around that’s shitty of them.
I don’t know much about snowboarding, but it seems like boots are a one time purchase, whereas skateboarding destroys shoes and requires replacements.
Don’t people get tired of all this fear mongering about Nike? We just went through worrying about Nike “culling” their team because one flow/am rider got cut and instead of kicking everyone off, they added an amazing skater.
I'm kind of impartial about nike but I was just surprised to see all this talk about them killing their golf program and none about their snowboard program whenever ago.
Snowboard boots can get pretty beat up, but you obviously wouldn't be replacing them like you would with shoes.
Isn't snowboarding a pretty big deal in the Olympics? I would think that would be motive enough to stay involved in the industry.
The Olympics hurt snowboarding real bad. It used to be the cool/rebel thing to do on the slopes but after it became just another olympic sport the kids weren't so drawn to it anymore and freestyle skiing became the cool thing to do.
I agree with this. I snowboard and worked in a snowboard/ski shop. When Shaun white was at his peak it destroyed "core" snowboarding. Now it just looks like fucking gymnastics and there's no style. It's just spin to win.
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but everyone was finally able to discuss whether or not nike is bad
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In snowboarding (yeah, I went there) Nike came in, made some "innovative" boots and scooped up a very large team of contest riders only to pull the plug when they decided skateboarding would be more marketable...
Their SB division is no different. When it's not cool anymore they'll pull out.
no way!
So if Nike pulls out tomorrow (after 15 or so years) that’s shitty of them, but if they stay around that’s shitty of them.
I don’t know much about snowboarding, but it seems like boots are a one time purchase, whereas skateboarding destroys shoes and requires replacements.
Don’t people get tired of all this fear mongering about Nike? We just went through worrying about Nike “culling” their team because one flow/am rider got cut and instead of kicking everyone off, they added an amazing skater.
I'm kind of impartial about nike but I was just surprised to see all this talk about them killing their golf program and none about their snowboard program whenever ago.
Snowboard boots can get pretty beat up, but you obviously wouldn't be replacing them like you would with shoes.
Isn't snowboarding a pretty big deal in the Olympics? I would think that would be motive enough to stay involved in the industry.
The Olympics hurt snowboarding real bad. It used to be the cool/rebel thing to do on the slopes but after it became just another olympic sport the kids weren't so drawn to it anymore and freestyle skiing became the cool thing to do.
I agree with this. I snowboard and worked in a snowboard/ski shop. When Shaun white was at his peak it destroyed "core" snowboarding. Now it just looks like fucking gymnastics and there's no style. It's just spin to win.
Thats some contest shit tho, freeriding still got style. Snowbaording is kinda for rich people which lowers its "core" score. expensive clothes and equipment, 4x4 vehicle, lift tickets, time off. Thats why skating is so rad, $200 gets you the same board and shoes as the pros. then hit the streets right in front you. Its tight that Shaun White ruined the whole snowboard scene i think he might have killed vert too.
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In snowboarding (yeah, I went there) Nike came in, made some "innovative" boots and scooped up a very large team of contest riders only to pull the plug when they decided skateboarding would be more marketable...
Their SB division is no different. When it's not cool anymore they'll pull out.
The big difference is, no one buys snowboard boots for everyday life, a ton of non-skaters buy SB. Its not like Nike needs to outsource skate shoes to something they don't specialize in. Its why they haven't entered the skating hardgoods market, and why they have left hockey, golf, and snowboarding.
Now, if Nike started making boards and other hard goods, I could see them pulling out. But, shoes is something they are already making in massive quantities, so SB would have to take such a dramatic turn down that I can't realistically see them leaving.
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Nike supports GT, Ishod, Lance, BA....all of those guys are 100% unhateable and deserve (I think) to get fuckin paid-like have a family/buy a house/not worry about money paid. The shoe fetish in skating is weird. Its not like an energy drink, people have been skating in Nikes since way before you. Daan rules, I hope he is on Nike and I hope they give him ten million dollars so he's set.
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Damn that kinda sucks, he was making those beat up slip on pros look fun to skate in. However I did just try some on at a Vans outlet and they felt like shit and were insanely low cut. So whatever let him get that Nike $$$.
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Damn that kinda sucks, he was making those beat up slip on pros look fun to skate in. However I did just try some on at a Vans outlet and they felt like shit and were insanely low cut. So whatever let him get that Nike $$$.
skated in nike slip ons once (veronas), worst decision of my life. laceless low tops are killers for your feet.
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In snowboarding (yeah, I went there) Nike came in, made some "innovative" boots and scooped up a very large team of contest riders only to pull the plug when they decided skateboarding would be more marketable...
Their SB division is no different. When it's not cool anymore they'll pull out.
no way!
So if Nike pulls out tomorrow (after 15 or so years) that’s shitty of them, but if they stay around that’s shitty of them.
I don’t know much about snowboarding, but it seems like boots are a one time purchase, whereas skateboarding destroys shoes and requires replacements.
Don’t people get tired of all this fear mongering about Nike? We just went through worrying about Nike “culling” their team because one flow/am rider got cut and instead of kicking everyone off, they added an amazing skater.
I'm kind of impartial about nike but I was just surprised to see all this talk about them killing their golf program and none about their snowboard program whenever ago.
Snowboard boots can get pretty beat up, but you obviously wouldn't be replacing them like you would with shoes.
Isn't snowboarding a pretty big deal in the Olympics? I would think that would be motive enough to stay involved in the industry.
The Olympics hurt snowboarding real bad. It used to be the cool/rebel thing to do on the slopes but after it became just another olympic sport the kids weren't so drawn to it anymore and freestyle skiing became the cool thing to do.
I agree with this. I snowboard and worked in a snowboard/ski shop. When Shaun white was at his peak it destroyed "core" snowboarding. Now it just looks like fucking gymnastics and there's no style. It's just spin to win.
Word.
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In snowboarding (yeah, I went there) Nike came in, made some "innovative" boots and scooped up a very large team of contest riders only to pull the plug when they decided skateboarding would be more marketable...
Their SB division is no different. When it's not cool anymore they'll pull out.
no way!
So if Nike pulls out tomorrow (after 15 or so years) that’s shitty of them, but if they stay around that’s shitty of them.
I don’t know much about snowboarding, but it seems like boots are a one time purchase, whereas skateboarding destroys shoes and requires replacements.
Don’t people get tired of all this fear mongering about Nike? We just went through worrying about Nike “culling” their team because one flow/am rider got cut and instead of kicking everyone off, they added an amazing skater.
I'm kind of impartial about nike but I was just surprised to see all this talk about them killing their golf program and none about their snowboard program whenever ago.
Snowboard boots can get pretty beat up, but you obviously wouldn't be replacing them like you would with shoes.
Isn't snowboarding a pretty big deal in the Olympics? I would think that would be motive enough to stay involved in the industry.
The Olympics hurt snowboarding real bad. It used to be the cool/rebel thing to do on the slopes but after it became just another olympic sport the kids weren't so drawn to it anymore and freestyle skiing became the cool thing to do.
I agree with this. I snowboard and worked in a snowboard/ski shop. When Shaun white was at his peak it destroyed "core" snowboarding. Now it just looks like fucking gymnastics and there's no style. It's just spin to win.
Word.
I thought the Crailtap guys and others skate better wood than they sell
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In snowboarding (yeah, I went there) Nike came in, made some "innovative" boots and scooped up a very large team of contest riders only to pull the plug when they decided skateboarding would be more marketable...
Their SB division is no different. When it's not cool anymore they'll pull out.
no way!
So if Nike pulls out tomorrow (after 15 or so years) that’s shitty of them, but if they stay around that’s shitty of them.
I don’t know much about snowboarding, but it seems like boots are a one time purchase, whereas skateboarding destroys shoes and requires replacements.
Don’t people get tired of all this fear mongering about Nike? We just went through worrying about Nike “culling” their team because one flow/am rider got cut and instead of kicking everyone off, they added an amazing skater.
I'm kind of impartial about nike but I was just surprised to see all this talk about them killing their golf program and none about their snowboard program whenever ago.
Snowboard boots can get pretty beat up, but you obviously wouldn't be replacing them like you would with shoes.
Isn't snowboarding a pretty big deal in the Olympics? I would think that would be motive enough to stay involved in the industry.
The Olympics hurt snowboarding real bad. It used to be the cool/rebel thing to do on the slopes but after it became just another olympic sport the kids weren't so drawn to it anymore and freestyle skiing became the cool thing to do.
I agree with this. I snowboard and worked in a snowboard/ski shop. When Shaun white was at his peak it destroyed "core" snowboarding. Now it just looks like fucking gymnastics and there's no style. It's just spin to win.
Word.
I thought the Crailtap guys and others skate better wood than they sell
After hearing that and wondering for soo long, but never seeing evidence, who knows. But even then... its still sick that skating has remained the same price to buy into since the 80s. Aaaaannnnddd... even if its at the expense of skateshops, kids can roll for cheap and get the bug. Oh, and Nike makes great shoes I have recently realized. Go Daan!
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snowboarding always had the aura of a privileged type of activity.
the fact that it's primarily done on a "resort" that people typically go on vacation to kinda kills the "rebel" image. it's like trying to be a badass while doing equestrian.
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snowboarding always had the aura of a privileged type of activity.
the fact that it's primarily done on a "resort" that people typically go on vacation to kinda kills the "rebel" image. it's like trying to be a badass while doing equestrian.
Haha dead on
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snowboarding always had the aura of a privileged type of activity.
the fact that it's primarily done on a "resort" that people typically go on vacation to kinda kills the "rebel" image. it's like trying to be a badass while doing equestrian.
Haha dead on
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HOW BOUT DEEZ NUTS BITCH
WAIT N SEE
THAT ENUGH PROOF FOR YA
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IM PATIENTLY HITTING REFRESH ON THE NIKE WEBSITE ILL LET YA KNOW WHEN ITS OFFICIAL
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IM PATIENTLY HITTING REFRESH ON THE NIKE WEBSITE ILL LET YA KNOW WHEN ITS OFFICIAL
THANKS
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Nike still makes golf shoes. I just bought some.
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Nike supports GT, Ishod, Lance, BA....all of those guys are 100% unhateable and deserve (I think) to get fuckin paid-like have a family/buy a house/not worry about money paid. The shoe fetish in skating is weird. Its not like an energy drink, people have been skating in Nikes since way before you. Daan rules, I hope he is on Nike and I hope they give him ten million dollars so he's set.
For sure Daan was already making enough money on Vans to live comfortably and knowing that Nike was after him Vans probably offered him a descent raise. The decision to move to Nike just doesn't fit with the kinda attitude he had before(like refusing to wear a Volcom T-shirt at a contest cause he'd rather rep Anti Hero). Seeing that he's been piling out a bunch lately my guess is he's over the whole industry and was like: "fuck it, I'll take the bigger check and everyone can fuck off..."
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Nike supports GT, Ishod, Lance, BA....all of those guys are 100% unhateable and deserve (I think) to get fuckin paid-like have a family/buy a house/not worry about money paid. The shoe fetish in skating is weird. Its not like an energy drink, people have been skating in Nikes since way before you. Daan rules, I hope he is on Nike and I hope they give him ten million dollars so he's set.
For sure Daan was already making enough money on Vans to live comfortably and knowing that Nike was after him Vans probably offered him a descent raise. The decision to move to Nike just doesn't fit with the kinda attitude he had before(like refusing to wear a Volcom T-shirt at a contest cause he'd rather rep Anti Hero). Seeing that he's been piling out a bunch lately my guess is he's over the whole industry and was like: "fuck it, I'll take the bigger check and everyone can fuck off..."
Piling out???? He just dropped footy.
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Nike supports GT, Ishod, Lance, BA....all of those guys are 100% unhateable and deserve (I think) to get fuckin paid-like have a family/buy a house/not worry about money paid. The shoe fetish in skating is weird. Its not like an energy drink, people have been skating in Nikes since way before you. Daan rules, I hope he is on Nike and I hope they give him ten million dollars so he's set.
For sure Daan was already making enough money on Vans to live comfortably and knowing that Nike was after him Vans probably offered him a descent raise. The decision to move to Nike just doesn't fit with the kinda attitude he had before(like refusing to wear a Volcom T-shirt at a contest cause he'd rather rep Anti Hero). Seeing that he's been piling out a bunch lately my guess is he's over the whole industry and was like: "fuck it, I'll take the bigger check and everyone can fuck off..."
You are either young or you don't understand money. "Enough to live comfortably" < an offer of more money. Grant rides for Nike, is he not "core" or Anti Hero? Also, Daan's back tail was one of the sickest things done this year, he's been in plenty of clips, and many on this board picked him for 2018 SOTY so not really seeing your "piling out" claim.
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Nike supports GT, Ishod, Lance, BA....all of those guys are 100% unhateable and deserve (I think) to get fuckin paid-like have a family/buy a house/not worry about money paid. The shoe fetish in skating is weird. Its not like an energy drink, people have been skating in Nikes since way before you. Daan rules, I hope he is on Nike and I hope they give him ten million dollars so he's set.
For sure Daan was already making enough money on Vans to live comfortably and knowing that Nike was after him Vans probably offered him a descent raise. The decision to move to Nike just doesn't fit with the kinda attitude he had before(like refusing to wear a Volcom T-shirt at a contest cause he'd rather rep Anti Hero). Seeing that he's been piling out a bunch lately my guess is he's over the whole industry and was like: "fuck it, I'll take the bigger check and everyone can fuck off..."
What is it about money that you understand so much better than me?
And sure he might not be piling out in a major way but he's far from the athlete kind of attitude that Nike is gonna require from their younger riders as we're getting closer to the olympics. I just don't see this as a wise move from him.
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Nike supports GT, Ishod, Lance, BA....all of those guys are 100% unhateable and deserve (I think) to get fuckin paid-like have a family/buy a house/not worry about money paid. The shoe fetish in skating is weird. Its not like an energy drink, people have been skating in Nikes since way before you. Daan rules, I hope he is on Nike and I hope they give him ten million dollars so he's set.
For sure Daan was already making enough money on Vans to live comfortably and knowing that Nike was after him Vans probably offered him a descent raise. The decision to move to Nike just doesn't fit with the kinda attitude he had before(like refusing to wear a Volcom T-shirt at a contest cause he'd rather rep Anti Hero). Seeing that he's been piling out a bunch lately my guess is he's over the whole industry and was like: "fuck it, I'll take the bigger check and everyone can fuck off..."
What is it about money that you understand so much better than me?
And sure he might not be piling out in a major way but he's far from the athlete kind of attitude that Nike is gonna require from their younger riders as we're getting closer to the olympics. I just don't see this as a wise move from him.
Well, I understand that getting more money is better than less money. He didn't ride for Simple, he rode for Vans which isn't that different from Nike. So.....when the better offer comes, you take it-pro careers are short. Also what makes you think Nike is going to require people to do anything at all for the olympics? They have a ton of riders who clearly are going to have no involvement with it at all. If they wanted him to be their Olympic superstar then Im sure they had that conversation with him beforehand.
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snowboarding always had the aura of a privileged type of activity.
the fact that it's primarily done on a "resort" that people typically go on vacation to kinda kills the "rebel" image. it's like trying to be a badass while doing equestrian.
I don't think you're wrong, but there are a lot of like "hesh" skier/snowboarder types that live in a van and haven't paid for a lift ticket in a decade. Plus because of the wealthier casual riders you are able to work on the mountain and do lessons and things like that, which if I could get by doing skateboard lessons for youths you bet I'd be showing those kids how to fuckin kickturn.
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In snowboarding (yeah, I went there) Nike came in, made some "innovative" boots and scooped up a very large team of contest riders only to pull the plug when they decided skateboarding would be more marketable...
Their SB division is no different. When it's not cool anymore they'll pull out.
no way!
So if Nike pulls out tomorrow (after 15 or so years) that’s shitty of them, but if they stay around that’s shitty of them.
I don’t know much about snowboarding, but it seems like boots are a one time purchase, whereas skateboarding destroys shoes and requires replacements.
Don’t people get tired of all this fear mongering about Nike? We just went through worrying about Nike “culling” their team because one flow/am rider got cut and instead of kicking everyone off, they added an amazing skater.
I'm kind of impartial about nike but I was just surprised to see all this talk about them killing their golf program and none about their snowboard program whenever ago.
Snowboard boots can get pretty beat up, but you obviously wouldn't be replacing them like you would with shoes.
Isn't snowboarding a pretty big deal in the Olympics? I would think that would be motive enough to stay involved in the industry.
The Olympics hurt snowboarding real bad. It used to be the cool/rebel thing to do on the slopes but after it became just another olympic sport the kids weren't so drawn to it anymore and freestyle skiing became the cool thing to do.
I agree with this. I snowboard and worked in a snowboard/ski shop. When Shaun white was at his peak it destroyed "core" snowboarding. Now it just looks like fucking gymnastics and there's no style. It's just spin to win.
Word.
I thought the Crailtap guys and others skate better wood than they sell
After hearing that and wondering for soo long, but never seeing evidence, who knows. But even then... its still sick that skating has remained the same price to buy into since the 80s. Aaaaannnnddd... even if its at the expense of skateshops, kids can roll for cheap and get the bug. Oh, and Nike makes great shoes I have recently realized. Go Daan!
Olson said he basically didn't like skating Crailtap boards while on Girl and was happy to be getting DLX flow when Jenkem did their day in the life segment. BA on the Nine Club said he was skating DLX boards while on Crailtap.
I think what pushed this rumor into a bigger deal was how many guys skated the Chocolate 20 year boards, which were PS Stix boards. Pretty sure they all skate crail boards if they get them from crail tap, but if not will skate DLX boards and cover them in stickers. I don't think Crail is buying other boards from PS Stixs and heat transfering on Girl or Chocolate boards and giving them to their riders.
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When Girl came through last year they all skated stock girl decks, they all came and set up new decks at the shop.
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Nike supports GT, Ishod, Lance, BA....all of those guys are 100% unhateable and deserve (I think) to get fuckin paid-like have a family/buy a house/not worry about money paid. The shoe fetish in skating is weird. Its not like an energy drink, people have been skating in Nikes since way before you. Daan rules, I hope he is on Nike and I hope they give him ten million dollars so he's set.
For sure Daan was already making enough money on Vans to live comfortably and knowing that Nike was after him Vans probably offered him a descent raise. The decision to move to Nike just doesn't fit with the kinda attitude he had before(like refusing to wear a Volcom T-shirt at a contest cause he'd rather rep Anti Hero). Seeing that he's been piling out a bunch lately my guess is he's over the whole industry and was like: "fuck it, I'll take the bigger check and everyone can fuck off..."
What is it about money that you understand so much better than me?
And sure he might not be piling out in a major way but he's far from the athlete kind of attitude that Nike is gonna require from their younger riders as we're getting closer to the olympics. I just don't see this as a wise move from him.
Damn you must be some kind of genius! Sorry but I think that things are little bit more complex than that. Here's a little story for you: When I was young I quickly learned that 2 dollars bought more candy than 1 dollar. Later in life I learnt that too much candy gives you a huge dentist bill. Get it?
I'm sure there's a lot of Vans riders who got tempting offers from Nike but didn't take them. Is that cause they don't understand money?
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When Girl came through last year they all skated stock girl decks, they all came and set up new decks at the shop.
The new wood is great, give it a chance.
Would you happen to know the manufacturer? I think some people, including myself, have reservations about Crail decks because no one really knows who makes them. When I called them one time the receptionist said she wasn't even allowed to disclose that information.
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Nike supports GT, Ishod, Lance, BA....all of those guys are 100% unhateable and deserve (I think) to get fuckin paid-like have a family/buy a house/not worry about money paid. The shoe fetish in skating is weird. Its not like an energy drink, people have been skating in Nikes since way before you. Daan rules, I hope he is on Nike and I hope they give him ten million dollars so he's set.
For sure Daan was already making enough money on Vans to live comfortably and knowing that Nike was after him Vans probably offered him a descent raise. The decision to move to Nike just doesn't fit with the kinda attitude he had before(like refusing to wear a Volcom T-shirt at a contest cause he'd rather rep Anti Hero). Seeing that he's been piling out a bunch lately my guess is he's over the whole industry and was like: "fuck it, I'll take the bigger check and everyone can fuck off..."
What is it about money that you understand so much better than me?
And sure he might not be piling out in a major way but he's far from the athlete kind of attitude that Nike is gonna require from their younger riders as we're getting closer to the olympics. I just don't see this as a wise move from him.
Damn you must be some kind of genius! Sorry but I think that things are little bit more complex than that. Here's a little story for you: When I was young I quickly learned that 2 dollars bought more candy than 1 dollar. Later in life I learnt that too much candy gives you a huge dentist bill. Get it?
I'm sure there's a lot of Vans riders who got tempting offers from Nike but didn't take them. Is that cause they don't understand money?
What the fuck are you even going on about anymore?
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In snowboarding (yeah, I went there) Nike came in, made some "innovative" boots and scooped up a very large team of contest riders only to pull the plug when they decided skateboarding would be more marketable...
Their SB division is no different. When it's not cool anymore they'll pull out.
no way!
So if Nike pulls out tomorrow (after 15 or so years) that’s shitty of them, but if they stay around that’s shitty of them.
I don’t know much about snowboarding, but it seems like boots are a one time purchase, whereas skateboarding destroys shoes and requires replacements.
Don’t people get tired of all this fear mongering about Nike? We just went through worrying about Nike “culling” their team because one flow/am rider got cut and instead of kicking everyone off, they added an amazing skater.
I'm kind of impartial about nike but I was just surprised to see all this talk about them killing their golf program and none about their snowboard program whenever ago.
Snowboard boots can get pretty beat up, but you obviously wouldn't be replacing them like you would with shoes.
Isn't snowboarding a pretty big deal in the Olympics? I would think that would be motive enough to stay involved in the industry.
The Olympics hurt snowboarding real bad. It used to be the cool/rebel thing to do on the slopes but after it became just another olympic sport the kids weren't so drawn to it anymore and freestyle skiing became the cool thing to do.
I agree with this. I snowboard and worked in a snowboard/ski shop. When Shaun white was at his peak it destroyed "core" snowboarding. Now it just looks like fucking gymnastics and there's no style. It's just spin to win.
Word.
I thought the Crailtap guys and others skate better wood than they sell
After hearing that and wondering for soo long, but never seeing evidence, who knows. But even then... its still sick that skating has remained the same price to buy into since the 80s. Aaaaannnnddd... even if its at the expense of skateshops, kids can roll for cheap and get the bug. Oh, and Nike makes great shoes I have recently realized. Go Daan!
I think what pushed this rumor into a bigger deal was how many guys skated the Chocolate 20 year boards, which were PS Stix boards. Pretty sure they all skate crail boards if they get them from crail tap, but if not will skate DLX boards and cover them in stickers. I don't think Crail is buying other boards from PS Stixs and heat transfering on Girl or Chocolate boards and giving them to their riders.
actually, that's EXACTLY what they do. They're not getting Anti-Hero/Real/Krooked boards and just putting stickers on them.
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Nike supports GT, Ishod, Lance, BA....all of those guys are 100% unhateable and deserve (I think) to get fuckin paid-like have a family/buy a house/not worry about money paid. The shoe fetish in skating is weird. Its not like an energy drink, people have been skating in Nikes since way before you. Daan rules, I hope he is on Nike and I hope they give him ten million dollars so he's set.
For sure Daan was already making enough money on Vans to live comfortably and knowing that Nike was after him Vans probably offered him a descent raise. The decision to move to Nike just doesn't fit with the kinda attitude he had before(like refusing to wear a Volcom T-shirt at a contest cause he'd rather rep Anti Hero). Seeing that he's been piling out a bunch lately my guess is he's over the whole industry and was like: "fuck it, I'll take the bigger check and everyone can fuck off..."
What is it about money that you understand so much better than me?
And sure he might not be piling out in a major way but he's far from the athlete kind of attitude that Nike is gonna require from their younger riders as we're getting closer to the olympics. I just don't see this as a wise move from him.
Damn you must be some kind of genius! Sorry but I think that things are little bit more complex than that. Here's a little story for you: When I was young I quickly learned that 2 dollars bought more candy than 1 dollar. Later in life I learnt that too much candy gives you a huge dentist bill. Get it?
I'm sure there's a lot of Vans riders who got tempting offers from Nike but didn't take them. Is that cause they don't understand money?
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In snowboarding (yeah, I went there) Nike came in, made some "innovative" boots and scooped up a very large team of contest riders only to pull the plug when they decided skateboarding would be more marketable...
Their SB division is no different. When it's not cool anymore they'll pull out.
no way!
So if Nike pulls out tomorrow (after 15 or so years) that’s shitty of them, but if they stay around that’s shitty of them.
I don’t know much about snowboarding, but it seems like boots are a one time purchase, whereas skateboarding destroys shoes and requires replacements.
Don’t people get tired of all this fear mongering about Nike? We just went through worrying about Nike “culling” their team because one flow/am rider got cut and instead of kicking everyone off, they added an amazing skater.
I'm kind of impartial about nike but I was just surprised to see all this talk about them killing their golf program and none about their snowboard program whenever ago.
Snowboard boots can get pretty beat up, but you obviously wouldn't be replacing them like you would with shoes.
Isn't snowboarding a pretty big deal in the Olympics? I would think that would be motive enough to stay involved in the industry.
The Olympics hurt snowboarding real bad. It used to be the cool/rebel thing to do on the slopes but after it became just another olympic sport the kids weren't so drawn to it anymore and freestyle skiing became the cool thing to do.
I agree with this. I snowboard and worked in a snowboard/ski shop. When Shaun white was at his peak it destroyed "core" snowboarding. Now it just looks like fucking gymnastics and there's no style. It's just spin to win.
Word.
I thought the Crailtap guys and others skate better wood than they sell
After hearing that and wondering for soo long, but never seeing evidence, who knows. But even then... its still sick that skating has remained the same price to buy into since the 80s. Aaaaannnnddd... even if its at the expense of skateshops, kids can roll for cheap and get the bug. Oh, and Nike makes great shoes I have recently realized. Go Daan!
I think what pushed this rumor into a bigger deal was how many guys skated the Chocolate 20 year boards, which were PS Stix boards. Pretty sure they all skate crail boards if they get them from crail tap, but if not will skate DLX boards and cover them in stickers. I don't think Crail is buying other boards from PS Stixs and heat transfering on Girl or Chocolate boards and giving them to their riders.
actually, that's EXACTLY what they do. They're not getting Anti-Hero/Real/Krooked boards and just putting stickers on them.
Its pretty obvious in clips that Cory Kennedy is just outright skating Anti-Hero decks. If Crail was willing to go through that trouble, I doubt he would be blatently riding another companies board.
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In snowboarding (yeah, I went there) Nike came in, made some "innovative" boots and scooped up a very large team of contest riders only to pull the plug when they decided skateboarding would be more marketable...
Their SB division is no different. When it's not cool anymore they'll pull out.
no way!
So if Nike pulls out tomorrow (after 15 or so years) that’s shitty of them, but if they stay around that’s shitty of them.
I don’t know much about snowboarding, but it seems like boots are a one time purchase, whereas skateboarding destroys shoes and requires replacements.
Don’t people get tired of all this fear mongering about Nike? We just went through worrying about Nike “culling” their team because one flow/am rider got cut and instead of kicking everyone off, they added an amazing skater.
I'm kind of impartial about nike but I was just surprised to see all this talk about them killing their golf program and none about their snowboard program whenever ago.
Snowboard boots can get pretty beat up, but you obviously wouldn't be replacing them like you would with shoes.
Isn't snowboarding a pretty big deal in the Olympics? I would think that would be motive enough to stay involved in the industry.
The Olympics hurt snowboarding real bad. It used to be the cool/rebel thing to do on the slopes but after it became just another olympic sport the kids weren't so drawn to it anymore and freestyle skiing became the cool thing to do.
I agree with this. I snowboard and worked in a snowboard/ski shop. When Shaun white was at his peak it destroyed "core" snowboarding. Now it just looks like fucking gymnastics and there's no style. It's just spin to win.
Word.
I thought the Crailtap guys and others skate better wood than they sell
After hearing that and wondering for soo long, but never seeing evidence, who knows. But even then... its still sick that skating has remained the same price to buy into since the 80s. Aaaaannnnddd... even if its at the expense of skateshops, kids can roll for cheap and get the bug. Oh, and Nike makes great shoes I have recently realized. Go Daan!
I think what pushed this rumor into a bigger deal was how many guys skated the Chocolate 20 year boards, which were PS Stix boards. Pretty sure they all skate crail boards if they get them from crail tap, but if not will skate DLX boards and cover them in stickers. I don't think Crail is buying other boards from PS Stixs and heat transfering on Girl or Chocolate boards and giving them to their riders.
actually, that's EXACTLY what they do. They're not getting Anti-Hero/Real/Krooked boards and just putting stickers on them.
How do you know that they maybe just didn't have any screened boards? I'm sure more often than not crail would prefer their branding but since they have a good relationship with DLX I personally wouldn't think it would be a huge issue.
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Everyone talks about Nike money but how much is that amount? I always kind of imagine it like this:
Koston/P-Rod/Janoski: $500,000+
Shane/Grant/Ishod: $250,000
Olson/Cyrus/Oski: $120,000
Ams and older guys like Chet: $60,000
I have heard about them effectively having 3 teams, I might be way off the mark though. Everyone might have their own number but I imagine a company like Nike might have some scale for athlete renumeration.
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Everyone talks about Nike money but how much is that amount? I always kind of imagine it like this:
Koston/P-Rod/Janoski: $500,000+
Shane/Grant/Ishod: $250,000
Olson/Cyrus/Oski: $120,000
Ams and older guys like Chet: $60,000
I have heard about them effectively having 3 teams, I might be way off the mark though. Everyone might have their own number but I imagine a company like Nike might have some scale for athlete renumeration.
Chet is actually I think at $500/month right now
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Everyone talks about Nike money but how much is that amount? I always kind of imagine it like this:
Koston/P-Rod/Janoski: $500,000+
Shane/Grant/Ishod: $250,000
Olson/Cyrus/Oski: $120,000
Ams and older guys like Chet: $60,000
I have heard about them effectively having 3 teams, I might be way off the mark though. Everyone might have their own number but I imagine a company like Nike might have some scale for athlete renumeration.
Chet is actually I think at $500/month right now
Ouch, wonder how much Chet was making 10 years ago. But there's no way Olson and Cyrus make the same. I could see Olson making 10k a month though.
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Wrong, Daryl Angel makes 800k a year, they have a longevity stipulation built in to their contracts. It's not based on output but how long you've been on the team. That's why they had to cut chet........................................................................................
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Nike still makes golf shoes. I just bought some.
Do you like dildos, guns and rubber asses?
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Wrong, Daryl Angel makes 800k a year, they have a longevity stipulation built in to their contracts. It's not based on output but how long you've been on the team. That's why they had to cut chet........................................................................................
And he still can’t pay his child support? Shiiiiit...
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Nike supports GT, Ishod, Lance, BA....all of those guys are 100% unhateable and deserve (I think) to get fuckin paid-like have a family/buy a house/not worry about money paid. The shoe fetish in skating is weird. Its not like an energy drink, people have been skating in Nikes since way before you. Daan rules, I hope he is on Nike and I hope they give him ten million dollars so he's set.
For sure Daan was already making enough money on Vans to live comfortably and knowing that Nike was after him Vans probably offered him a descent raise. The decision to move to Nike just doesn't fit with the kinda attitude he had before(like refusing to wear a Volcom T-shirt at a contest cause he'd rather rep Anti Hero). Seeing that he's been piling out a bunch lately my guess is he's over the whole industry and was like: "fuck it, I'll take the bigger check and everyone can fuck off..."
What is it about money that you understand so much better than me?
And sure he might not be piling out in a major way but he's far from the athlete kind of attitude that Nike is gonna require from their younger riders as we're getting closer to the olympics. I just don't see this as a wise move from him.
Damn you must be some kind of genius! Sorry but I think that things are little bit more complex than that. Here's a little story for you: When I was young I quickly learned that 2 dollars bought more candy than 1 dollar. Later in life I learnt that too much candy gives you a huge dentist bill. Get it?
I'm sure there's a lot of Vans riders who got tempting offers from Nike but didn't take them. Is that cause they don't understand money?
I guess I didn't learn how to spell.
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Nike supports GT, Ishod, Lance, BA....all of those guys are 100% unhateable and deserve (I think) to get fuckin paid-like have a family/buy a house/not worry about money paid. The shoe fetish in skating is weird. Its not like an energy drink, people have been skating in Nikes since way before you. Daan rules, I hope he is on Nike and I hope they give him ten million dollars so he's set.
For sure Daan was already making enough money on Vans to live comfortably and knowing that Nike was after him Vans probably offered him a descent raise. The decision to move to Nike just doesn't fit with the kinda attitude he had before(like refusing to wear a Volcom T-shirt at a contest cause he'd rather rep Anti Hero). Seeing that he's been piling out a bunch lately my guess is he's over the whole industry and was like: "fuck it, I'll take the bigger check and everyone can fuck off..."
What is it about money that you understand so much better than me?
And sure he might not be piling out in a major way but he's far from the athlete kind of attitude that Nike is gonna require from their younger riders as we're getting closer to the olympics. I just don't see this as a wise move from him.
Damn you must be some kind of genius! Sorry but I think that things are little bit more complex than that. Here's a little story for you: When I was young I quickly learned that 2 dollars bought more candy than 1 dollar. Later in life I learnt that too much candy gives you a huge dentist bill. Get it?
I'm sure there's a lot of Vans riders who got tempting offers from Nike but didn't take them. Is that cause they don't understand money?
I guess I didn't learn how to spell.
I believe that’s acceptable in England
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Nike supports GT, Ishod, Lance, BA....all of those guys are 100% unhateable and deserve (I think) to get fuckin paid-like have a family/buy a house/not worry about money paid. The shoe fetish in skating is weird. Its not like an energy drink, people have been skating in Nikes since way before you. Daan rules, I hope he is on Nike and I hope they give him ten million dollars so he's set.
For sure Daan was already making enough money on Vans to live comfortably and knowing that Nike was after him Vans probably offered him a descent raise. The decision to move to Nike just doesn't fit with the kinda attitude he had before(like refusing to wear a Volcom T-shirt at a contest cause he'd rather rep Anti Hero). Seeing that he's been piling out a bunch lately my guess is he's over the whole industry and was like: "fuck it, I'll take the bigger check and everyone can fuck off..."
What is it about money that you understand so much better than me?
And sure he might not be piling out in a major way but he's far from the athlete kind of attitude that Nike is gonna require from their younger riders as we're getting closer to the olympics. I just don't see this as a wise move from him.
Damn you must be some kind of genius! Sorry but I think that things are little bit more complex than that. Here's a little story for you: When I was young I quickly learned that 2 dollars bought more candy than 1 dollar. Later in life I learnt that too much candy gives you a huge dentist bill. Get it?
I'm sure there's a lot of Vans riders who got tempting offers from Nike but didn't take them. Is that cause they don't understand money?
I guess I didn't learn how to spell.
yeah, you spelt it wrong
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Wrong, Daryl Angel makes 800k a year, they have a longevity stipulation built in to their contracts. It's not based on output but how long you've been on the team. That's why they had to cut chet........................................................................................
I know right? That's why Shimizu got the boot too. I could be wrong though since I pulled all of that out of my ass. That's what we do here right?
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Supa smoked a joint with a few fans outside an NYC bar and was fired the next day because some Nike exec caught wind of it. True story; my cousin is actually one of Danny's closest friends and he can confirm all of this.
Big Shoe has an agenda, and you better believe that whether or not Daan is on the team has nothing to do with his skating. They're turning skateboarding into a full-on quantifiable sport. You're either with them or against them, and they spend money like water. Drink the fucking Kool-Aid. They have access to next-level laboratories and can implant all types of shit.
Tinfoil 5-panels : Dylan was a coverup. He knew things about Nike that could've changed everything.
(http://luxurylaunches.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Super-exclusive-Louis-Vuitton-coffin-is-the-most-luxurious-way-to-get-buried-768x432-1170x658.jpg)
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As a 36-year old, I encourage these guys to stack as much money as they can in this skate game(and spend none of it) -- might be the only chance they have at making real bucks in their life...
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As a 36-year old, I encourage these guys to stack as much money as they can in this skate game(and spend none of it) -- might be the only chance they have at making real bucks in their life...
This right here. No college degree for most of these guys, if you have the chance to stack and travel the world better take it. Buy the house and sock the rest of it away.
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i thought that whole above conversation was about chet thomas for some reason
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i thought that whole above conversation was about chet thomas for some reason
I just realized that in a week & a half chicks born in the year 2000 can now work in the strip club
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i thought that whole above conversation was about chet thomas for some reason
I just realized that in a week & a half chicks born in the year 2000 can now work in the strip club
yooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo wtf
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True story; my cousin is actually one of Danny's closest friends and he can confirm all of this.
You're related to a Euro TM?
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Supa smoked a joint with a few fans outside an NYC bar and was fired the next day because some Nike exec caught wind of it. True story; my cousin is actually one of Danny's closest friends and he can confirm all of this.
Big Shoe has an agenda, and you better believe that whether or not Daan is on the team has nothing to do with his skating. They're turning skateboarding into a full-on quantifiable sport. You're either with them or against them, and they spend money like water. Drink the fucking Kool-Aid. They have access to next-level laboratories and can implant all types of shit.
Tinfoil 5-panels : Dylan was a coverup. He knew things about Nike that could've changed everything.
(http://luxurylaunches.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Super-exclusive-Louis-Vuitton-coffin-is-the-most-luxurious-way-to-get-buried-768x432-1170x658.jpg)
I actually know Supa and this isnt true! He was still living in LA at the time
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Duh.
Edit : that's also not Dylan in the coffin ;)
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Janoski laughs at your numbers(and Koston's)...I guarantee he gets a % of sales and the Janoski has been and still sells 10 to 1 of any other SB model.
I agree that these guys should get their $$$ while they can. I'm 37 and my body feels wrecked from years of jumping down shit so I can't imagine how these will feel when they're well into the middle ages. When the check go away the lower back and knee pain will only be getting worse.
Natas preferred Cons
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True story; my cousin is actually one of Danny's closest friends and he can confirm all of this.
You're related to a Euro TM?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xX3dNwHl50 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xX3dNwHl50)
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I actually know Supa and this isnt true! He was still living in LA at the time
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The plot thickens... so did Supa get fired from nike for burning a dooby or what??
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Janoski laughs at your numbers(and Koston's)...I guarantee he gets a % of sales and the Janoski has been and still sells 10 to 1 of any other SB model.
Nah man, Nike bought his name so they no longer have to pay him a percentage of the shoe's sales.
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I fucking told y'all about Big Shoe.
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Janoski laughs at your numbers(and Koston's)...I guarantee he gets a % of sales and the Janoski has been and still sells 10 to 1 of any other SB model.
Nah man, Nike bought his name so they no longer have to pay him a percentage of the shoe's sales.
Has this ever been verified?
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No, and actually I vaguely remember a Janoski interview where he says it's not true.
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maybe they did buy his name out...but if they did that check was in the millions and I know he banked a lot before they bought the name.
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Janoski laughs at your numbers(and Koston's)...I guarantee he gets a % of sales and the Janoski has been and still sells 10 to 1 of any other SB model.
Nah man, Nike bought his name so they no longer have to pay him a percentage of the shoe's sales.
Has this ever been verified?
He said he gets royalties on his Bunt episode
https://soundcloud.com/thebuntlive/the-bunt-s03-episode-9-ft-stefan-janoski-actually-it-was-pcp-not-crack
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Daan on Nike rumour has been going around in the Netherlands
supposedly it's a 4 year deal for 1,5 million dollars or euros
Vans said it this point he's welcome to come back after those 4 years
Also I don't know why but part of the deal is his brother gets free Nikes for life
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Daan on Nike rumour has been going around in the Netherlands
supposedly it's a 4 year deal for 1,5 million dollars or euros
Vans said it this point he's welcome to come back after those 4 years
Also I don't know why but part of the deal is his brother gets free Nikes for life
I head his brother is gonna get €1000 per month as part of the contract
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Daan on Nike rumour has been going around in the Netherlands
supposedly it's a 4 year deal for 1,5 million dollars or euros
Vans said it this point he's welcome to come back after those 4 years
Also I don't know why but part of the deal is his brother gets free Nikes for life
I head his brother is gonna get €1000 per month as part of the contract
wow that would be crazy
but smart move fuck em get that swoosh money
maybe he can focus more on skating
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Daan on Nike rumour has been going around in the Netherlands
supposedly it's a 4 year deal for 1,5 million dollars or euros
Vans said it this point he's welcome to come back after those 4 years
Also I don't know why but part of the deal is his brother gets free Nikes for life
I head his brother is gonna get €1000 per month as part of the contract
wow that would be crazy
but smart move fuck em get that swoosh money
maybe he can focus more on skating
I heard he said nah fuck the corporate!! Ill stick to the waffle and live a life of low income respectability while smoking cheap cigarettes and hi grade, with intent to start a skaterock band and go on tours with minimal skating and hi jinx.
one can only hope...
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smart move fuck em get that swoosh money
maybe he can focus more on skating
black coffee is Daan's mom, confirmed.
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Janoski laughs at your numbers(and Koston's)...I guarantee he gets a % of sales and the Janoski has been and still sells 10 to 1 of any other SB model.
Nah man, Nike bought his name so they no longer have to pay him a percentage of the shoe's sales.
Has this ever been verified?
He said he gets royalties on his Bunt episode
https://soundcloud.com/thebuntlive/the-bunt-s03-episode-9-ft-stefan-janoski-actually-it-was-pcp-not-crack
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That's crazy, I thought it was confirmed that they bought his name. Good for him.
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Jesus Christ, for the 989th time, Nike doesn't print money. They pay in relation to prospective/actual sales. The money is in skateboarding. Stop buying that bullshit and everyone on actual skate shoe companies will get paid well. And more relevant to this thread, you really think Vans riders are hurting? Yall will say and believe anything to justify supporting those fucking tennis shoes wont you?
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The thought of Daan footage being ruined by polo shirts with matching hats is honestly upsetting me.
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The thought of Daan footage being ruined by polo shirts with matching hats is honestly upsetting me.
Name an example of a non-contest SB pro who does this
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The thought of Daan footage being ruined by polo shirts with matching hats is honestly upsetting me.
Name an example of a non-contest SB pro who does this
I don't fucking know, nike sponsor pretty much everyone so there is bound to be someone, but you get my point, either way his footage will not be as good because his kits will have a swoosh all over it.
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The thought of Daan footage being ruined by polo shirts with matching hats is honestly upsetting me.
Name an example of a non-contest SB pro who does this
Koston
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The thought of Daan footage being ruined by polo shirts with matching hats is honestly upsetting me.
Name an example of a non-contest SB pro who does this
I don't fucking know, nike sponsor pretty much everyone so there is bound to be someone, but you get my point, either way his footage will not be as good because his kits will have a swoosh all over it.
I don’t get your point. He’s gonna wear some blazer lows like hjalte, Bobby, max or the majority of these Nike guys depth of swooshiness.
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Daan on Nike rumour has been going around in the Netherlands
supposedly it's a 4 year deal for 1,5 million dollars or euros
Vans said it this point he's welcome to come back after those 4 years
Also I don't know why but part of the deal is his brother gets free Nikes for life
seems way too good to be true
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yo its the fucking holidays and yall are over here sad that a 20 year old dutch kid is gonna wear nikes in his new footage lmfao
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The thought of Daan footage being ruined by polo shirts with matching hats is honestly upsetting me.
Name an example of a non-contest SB pro who does this
I don't fucking know, nike sponsor pretty much everyone so there is bound to be someone, but you get my point, either way his footage will not be as good because his kits will have a swoosh all over it.
I don’t get your point. He’s gonna wear some blazer lows like hjalte, Bobby, max or the majority of these Nike guys depth of swooshiness.
Disagree. Daan is hot property right now and if this jump to nike is true I think it would have to be for a considerable amount of money, putting him in say Luan territory that I’m guessing means he has to rock the tennis look. I see your point with guys like Bobby, but I don’t think Daan and Bobby are comparable at their stages of career, and you really think Max or Hjalte will be on the same contract as someone like Daan? No.
Whatever, if this is true, it sucks. Nike in skating is lame as fuck. And the fact that they just buy whoever they want like the rich kid with no friends at school makes them a cancer to the skate industry.
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yo its the fucking holidays and yall are over here sad that a 20 year old dutch kid is gonna wear nikes in his new footage lmfao
shut up cum eater
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The thought of Daan footage being ruined by polo shirts with matching hats is honestly upsetting me.
Name an example of a non-contest SB pro who does this
I don't fucking know, nike sponsor pretty much everyone so there is bound to be someone, but you get my point, either way his footage will not be as good because his kits will have a swoosh all over it.
I don’t get your point. He’s gonna wear some blazer lows like hjalte, Bobby, max or the majority of these Nike guys depth of swooshiness.
Disagree. Daan is hot property right now and if this jump to nike is true I think it would have to be for a considerable amount of money, putting him in say Luan territory that I’m guessing means he has to rock the tennis look. I see your point with guys like Bobby, but I don’t think Daan and Bobby are comparable at their stages of career, and you really think Max or Hjalte will be on the same contract as someone like Daan? No.
Whatever, if this is true, it sucks. Nike in skating is lame as fuck. And the fact that they just buy whoever they want like the rich kid with no friends at school makes them a cancer to the skate industry.
It’s not the fucking Yankees going up against the Rays. Who cares if they sign whomever they want. The skating doesn’t change for the worse one iota. If it was redbull where they have to wear some dumb hat, you’d be plenty justified. But this isn’t Nike shoring up the Netherlands for the Olympics. For Chrissakes, what do some of you people think the Olympics are?
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where do nike and the international olympic skateboard committee meet, nike hq or the iosc facility for ice skating in colorado springs, the broadmoor?
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What some of y'all are expecting from Daan:
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The thought of Daan footage being ruined by polo shirts with matching hats is honestly upsetting me.
Name an example of a non-contest SB pro who does this
I don't fucking know, nike sponsor pretty much everyone so there is bound to be someone, but you get my point, either way his footage will not be as good because his kits will have a swoosh all over it.
I don’t get your point. He’s gonna wear some blazer lows like hjalte, Bobby, max or the majority of these Nike guys depth of swooshiness.
Disagree. Daan is hot property right now and if this jump to nike is true I think it would have to be for a considerable amount of money, putting him in say Luan territory that I’m guessing means he has to rock the tennis look. I see your point with guys like Bobby, but I don’t think Daan and Bobby are comparable at their stages of career, and you really think Max or Hjalte will be on the same contract as someone like Daan? No.
Whatever, if this is true, it sucks. Nike in skating is lame as fuck. And the fact that they just buy whoever they want like the rich kid with no friends at school makes them a cancer to the skate industry.
It’s not the fucking Yankees going up against the Rays. Who cares if they sign whomever they want. The skating doesn’t change for the worse one iota. If it was redbull where they have to wear some dumb hat, you’d be plenty justified. But this isn’t Nike shoring up the Netherlands for the Olympics. For Chrissakes, what do some of you people think the Olympics are?
Actually, a heap of Nike riders have had to leave clothing sponsors to wear SB head to toe.
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The thought of Daan footage being ruined by polo shirts with matching hats is honestly upsetting me.
Name an example of a non-contest SB pro who does this
I don't fucking know, nike sponsor pretty much everyone so there is bound to be someone, but you get my point, either way his footage will not be as good because his kits will have a swoosh all over it.
I don’t get your point. He’s gonna wear some blazer lows like hjalte, Bobby, max or the majority of these Nike guys depth of swooshiness.
Disagree. Daan is hot property right now and if this jump to nike is true I think it would have to be for a considerable amount of money, putting him in say Luan territory that I’m guessing means he has to rock the tennis look. I see your point with guys like Bobby, but I don’t think Daan and Bobby are comparable at their stages of career, and you really think Max or Hjalte will be on the same contract as someone like Daan? No.
Whatever, if this is true, it sucks. Nike in skating is lame as fuck. And the fact that they just buy whoever they want like the rich kid with no friends at school makes them a cancer to the skate industry.
It’s not the fucking Yankees going up against the Rays. Who cares if they sign whomever they want. The skating doesn’t change for the worse one iota. If it was redbull where they have to wear some dumb hat, you’d be plenty justified. But this isn’t Nike shoring up the Netherlands for the Olympics. For Chrissakes, what do some of you people think the Olympics are?
Actually, a heap of Nike riders have had to leave clothing sponsors to wear SB head to toe.
Uh-huh. Alex Olson and BA are two of them. Can’t recall these too ever being overly branded by anyone, let alone the company that afforded them the opportunity to start their own board companies. Not sure what you think Nike clothes look like, but it’s not all over prints of swooshes. Normal ass clothes that are, compared to altamont, 4star et al, actually made well.
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Luan rode for Volcom, Malto for 4 star, Theotis for Altamont and they all became walking billboards after getting on Nike.
If you wanna keep standing up for Nike like they have skateboardings best interests at heart then carry on supporting them and watch actual skate companies crumble because of it. Soon you’re dream of there only being 3 companies to choose from for skate footwear may even become a reality, how sick will that be! Am I right!?
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Not sure if it's been brought up yet but Nike's also the reason why Guy and Koston had to end up leaving Girl, since Mike couldn't have Guy leaving two Crail companies and have Koston leave one of the last two he was on, but expect to stay on Girl.
Of course you can take all my Nike criticism with a grain of salt because I just bought a pair of CTAS highs and love them
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Luan rode for Volcom, Malto for 4 star, Theotis for Altamont and they all became walking billboards after getting on Nike.
If you wanna keep standing up for Nike like they have skateboardings best interests at heart then carry on supporting them and watch actual skate companies crumble because of it. Soon you’re dream of there only being 3 companies to choose from for skate footwear may even become a reality, how sick will that be! Am I right!?
Oh sick, Two contest skaters and a guy who wears Mountain Dew hats have become walking billboards because of Nike? Almost sounds like my original point. Again, legit people don’t become kooks because of Nike, kooks are the same, they just come with better paychecks and better made clothes.
And I don’t know if anyone’s let you know, but pro skaters job is being walking billboards. They don’t get free clothes and decks From their sponsors to be nice. They are there to wear the their sponsors shit. So wearing a Nike t-shirt isn’t anymore or less of being a billboard than wearing a Droors shirt.
Worried about the industry? How many sick skaters have been left hanging by Crailtap/Carroll because they won’t be head to toe Girl/Lakai. How many skaters have been given the opportunity to start their own company because of the money they get from Nike. There are obviously bad things that come from their presence because as with literally everything in the world, there are good and bad sides. Nike’s been around for 15 something years and I haven’t seen skateboarding killed. I’ve heard of some shops closing, but shops also closed before then too. But if you want to have a boogeyman, fine.
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Atiba, for the record, I enjoy the banter, just wanted to say that. Now..
The whole better quality thing is such bullshit. I’ve been given Adidas and Nike shoes and in no way shape or form have they performed better than any pair of Emericas or Lakais’ I’ve ever owned.
The skaters I just named are just the first ones that popped into my head, I’m sure there are hundreds of other examples since like I said before Nike sponsor pretty much half the industry.
Not sure of any examples of people being “left hanging” by Crailtap. Are you talking about guys that got left on flow or am? Yeah the list is probably big, but I don’t think the riders shoes have had anything to do with it. Look at current and old riders.
Olsen - Vans
Mike Mo - DC
Malto - Nike
Kenny - Cons
I guess Nike is my boogeyman after all.
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Atiba, for the record, I enjoy the banter, just wanted to say that. Now..
The whole better quality thing is such bullshit. I’ve been given Adidas and Nike shoes and in no way shape or form have they performed better than any pair of Emericas or Lakais’ I’ve ever owned.
The skaters I just named are just the first ones that popped into my head, I’m sure there are hundreds of other examples since like I said before Nike sponsor pretty much half the industry.
Not sure of any examples of people being “left hanging” by Crailtap. Are you talking about guys that got left on flow or am? Yeah the list is probably big, but I don’t think the riders shoes have had anything to do with it. Look at current and old riders.
Olsen - Vans
Mike Mo - DC
Malto - Nike
Kenny - Cons
I guess Nike is my boogeyman after all.
Totally, I like it too. This isn’t some scorched earth Gipper thing.
I’m talking about Antonio Durao most notably and other guys listed the thread about it
I did the bulk of my skating before Nike or adidas were really in skateboarding and I wore all the core shoe companies that are still around today, like es, Emerica, Lakai and dc and I liked the way those brands made shoes back then. I don’t wear any of them anymore, it’s a little bit of being 30 and not 16 and a little bit of some of those core brands not having designs that appeal to me anymore. I don’t bedrudge anyone that wears them or people that don’t like Nike, I just don’t think they are an implicitly negative influence in the industry, and if anything the scale likely tips more in the positive direction.
Kenny’s kind of a cons lifer. He was with them in the Helium shoes days.
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either one or the other he is still gonna be amazing at skateboarding.
i'm over this whole nike sucks it ruining skateboarding.
contests dont appeal to me what so ever so i dont watch them, dont give a shit about what nike does to them.
but their team is so stack, good and bad, but at this point the good outweighs the bad in terms of skater.
look at Nikes Euro squad and Australian squad, they're both so legit and hook up so many good dudes
Alex Olsen and the 917 squad are rippers, Nick Boserio, Oski.
bloody GT, Ishod, CK1, BA, Janoski, Worrest.. the list goes
they do so much more for me than watching the 'head to toe' Nike contest dudes.
In saying all this i will still never buy/wear any of their product
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either one or the other he is still gonna be amazing at skateboarding.
i'm over this whole nike sucks it ruining skateboarding.
contests dont appeal to me what so ever so i dont watch them, dont give a shit about what nike does to them.
but their team is so stack, good and bad, but at this point the good outweighs the bad in terms of skater.
look at Nikes Euro squad and Australian squad, they're both so legit and hook up so many good dudes
Alex Olsen and the 917 squad are rippers, Nick Boserio, Oski.
bloody GT, Ishod, CK1, BA, Janoski, Worrest.. the list goes
they do so much more for me than watching the 'head to toe' Nike contest dudes.
In saying all this i will still never buy/wear any of their product
This. Nowadays it's just a losing argument, unfortunately. I'll keep my thoughts to myself, and their team is undoubtedly amazing, but I too am not a fan of the nike athletic kit and if I had it my way Nike would've never found its way into skateboarding/shops. You can only dislike a company so much when they have the above dudes you listed, and no maybe Daan but im still not convinced
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yo its the fucking holidays and yall are over here sad that a 20 year old dutch kid is gonna wear nikes in his new footage lmfao
Fo sho.
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So far is this the only pic confirming what this thread is about? Cool.
If he does switch he'll just blend in with all the other dudes, Vans had some good coverage of him and so does Volcom,if the head to toe sponsorship is true then thats a lot less Daan. This is just what I've seen with other dudes that got the swoosh in the past,but dude is killing it right now so I'm probably wrong.
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It's now been confirmed via euro TM that Daan will be skating for PUMA upon their 2018 relaunch. Him and Addie Fridy will be the two AMs on the squad while Chaz Ortiz will be their only pro.
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It's now been confirmed via euro TM that Daan will be skating for PUMA upon their 2018 relaunch. Him and Addie Fridy will be the two AMs on the squad while Chaz Ortiz will be their only pro.
So he got demoted to am?
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Not sure if it's been brought up yet but Nike's also the reason why Guy and Koston had to end up leaving Girl, since Mike couldn't have Guy leaving two Crail companies and have Koston leave one of the last two he was on, but expect to stay on Girl.
Of course you can take all my Nike criticism with a grain of salt because I just bought a pair of CTAS highs and love them
Koston and Guy left Crailtap because they didn't see any of the royalties from the sale of Fourstar... I.E. a skater-owned brand fucked them over. Shocking!
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It's now been confirmed via euro TM that Daan will be skating for PUMA upon their 2018 relaunch. Him and Addie Fridy will be the two AMs on the squad while Chaz Ortiz will be their only pro.
So he got demoted to am?
Must have. The corporate entities at PUMA probably talked with the 18 about bringing him back to the AM ranks for marketability reasons.
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That contract mentioned above seems like chump change for an elite practitioner of the sport. Hate to put it in those terms but those are the terms it's probably already in in some evil boardroom with pentagrams exquisitely etched under the conference table and children roasting in wall ovens nearby.
Don't really fuck with nike but i have some augmented lunarlons (from onestars i ran fp's in) in some some huf classic hi's. First time trying lunarlons, and the way they feel are making me realize how seductive the dark forces in the universe can be. godspeed Daan. godspeed.
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It's now been confirmed via euro TM that Daan will be skating for PUMA upon their 2018 relaunch. Him and Addie Fridy will be the two AMs on the squad while Chaz Ortiz will be their only pro.
So he got demoted to am?
Must have. The corporate entities at PUMA probably talked with the 18 about bringing him back to the AM ranks for marketability reasons.
Explains the AH trip to Israel. Puma is a known patron of the Israeli army
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Not sure if it's been brought up yet but Nike's also the reason why Guy and Koston had to end up leaving Girl, since Mike couldn't have Guy leaving two Crail companies and have Koston leave one of the last two he was on, but expect to stay on Girl.
Of course you can take all my Nike criticism with a grain of salt because I just bought a pair of CTAS highs and love them
That story always was super fucked and suspicious. I don't doubt its true but like, how do you NOT sue over that if you're entitled to something?
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Luan rode for Volcom, Malto for 4 star, Theotis for Altamont and they all became walking billboards after getting on Nike.
If you wanna keep standing up for Nike like they have skateboardings best interests at heart then carry on supporting them and watch actual skate companies crumble because of it. Soon you’re dream of there only being 3 companies to choose from for skate footwear may even become a reality, how sick will that be! Am I right!?
Oh sick, Two contest skaters and a guy who wears Mountain Dew hats have become walking billboards because of Nike? Almost sounds like my original point. Again, legit people don’t become kooks because of Nike, kooks are the same, they just come with better paychecks and better made clothes.
And I don’t know if anyone’s let you know, but pro skaters job is being walking billboards. They don’t get free clothes and decks From their sponsors to be nice. They are there to wear the their sponsors shit. So wearing a Nike t-shirt isn’t anymore or less of being a billboard than wearing a Droors shirt.
Worried about the industry? How many sick skaters have been left hanging by Crailtap/Carroll because they won’t be head to toe Girl/Lakai. How many skaters have been given the opportunity to start their own company because of the money they get from Nike. There are obviously bad things that come from their presence because as with literally everything in the world, there are good and bad sides. Nike’s been around for 15 something years and I haven’t seen skateboarding killed. I’ve heard of some shops closing, but shops also closed before then too. But if you want to have a boogeyman, fine.
daan is off the vans skate team site ,🤔👀👀
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Heard there is an Antihero Dunk Hi quick strike coming soon.
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Heard there is an Antihero Dunk Hi quick strike coming soon.
damn. shoulda been blazers.
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Heard there is an Antihero Dunk Hi quick strike coming soon.
Surely it'd be at Agenda
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Not sure if it's been brought up yet but Nike's also the reason why Guy and Koston had to end up leaving Girl, since Mike couldn't have Guy leaving two Crail companies and have Koston leave one of the last two he was on, but expect to stay on Girl.
Of course you can take all my Nike criticism with a grain of salt because I just bought a pair of CTAS highs and love them
That story always was super fucked and suspicious. I don't doubt its true but like, how do you NOT sue over that if you're entitled to something?
Who knows how the deals were created in the 90's.
My guess would be that Crailtap just issued a bunch more shares in their company reducing whatever Koston and Guy had to worthless amounts. It was probably structured as a cash infusion to save the brands, and not a deal where Mike, Rick, Megan, and Spike cashed out. Guy and Koston probably maintained the same amount of shares, but with drastically reduced equity. Considering how people talk about the financial shape of Crailtap, it might not be worth it to go after the owners with lawyers that would probably put some of your friends still there out of work. If you won they'd probably just declare bankruptcy and never pay you, so you are just wasting money on litigation for minimal gain.
I think it's pretty telling that Koston won't go into detail about it. Koston may be a hot head, but for whatever reasons he never went into detail about what happened with Lakai (what appears to have happened is the brothers who owned Podium were lying about the numbers) and he hasn't gone in-depth about leaving Girl anywhere, outside of saying he never planned on leaving and starting a board brand at 40.
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Not sure if it's been brought up yet but Nike's also the reason why Guy and Koston had to end up leaving Girl, since Mike couldn't have Guy leaving two Crail companies and have Koston leave one of the last two he was on, but expect to stay on Girl.
Of course you can take all my Nike criticism with a grain of salt because I just bought a pair of CTAS highs and love them
That story always was super fucked and suspicious. I don't doubt its true but like, how do you NOT sue over that if you're entitled to something?
My guess would be that Crailtap just issued a bunch more shares in their company reducing whatever Koston and Guy had to worthless amounts. It was probably structured as a cash infusion to save the brands, and not a deal where Mike, Rick, Megan, and Spike cashed out. Guy and Koston probably maintained the same amount of shares, but with drastically reduced equity. Considering how people talk about the financial shape of Crailtap, it might not be worth it to go after the owners with lawyers that would probably put some of your friends still there out of work. If you won they'd probably just declare bankruptcy and never pay you, so you are just wasting money on litigation for minimal gain.
I think it's pretty telling that Koston won't go into detail about it. Koston may be a hot head, but for whatever reasons he never went into detail about what happened with Lakai (what appears to have happened is the brothers who owned Podium were lying about the numbers) and he hasn't gone in-depth about leaving Girl anywhere, outside of saying he never planned on leaving and starting a board brand at 40.
I definitely see Kostons reluctance to speak on the issue as an indicator to something having gone awry. Guy at that point probably had little to no say but kostons pull and overall brand at crail arguably kept it afloat and kept a lot of those dudes paid where crailtap couldn't . He left es over not getting more say in the company and a bit of ownership, don't see how that wouldnt be the same with crailtap. It's not like Rick and Carroll were keeping it afloat with board sales. Either way we have Nike now and it's arguable they've done more for skaters the last decade then anyone else. I mean they got us courthouse back even if it's getting torn down in next few years. And yes that's true the city will be tearing down courthouse in the new future but they're rebuilding something in it's place from what I've heard.
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So WTF is happening with Daan, he going puma/nike or what?
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Not sure if it's been brought up yet but Nike's also the reason why Guy and Koston had to end up leaving Girl, since Mike couldn't have Guy leaving two Crail companies and have Koston leave one of the last two he was on, but expect to stay on Girl.
Of course you can take all my Nike criticism with a grain of salt because I just bought a pair of CTAS highs and love them
That story always was super fucked and suspicious. I don't doubt its true but like, how do you NOT sue over that if you're entitled to something?
not wanting to throw away 20 years of friendship and the Nike money probably made it easier to move on. Plus, they invested their money properly, and didn’t piss it away on alcohol and tobacco.
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My belief is that the new owners came in and reset the budget for the team. Guy and Koston weren't taking the hit so they split. I doubt that Guy had any real shares to cash in when Altamont bought them. Koston may have had a few, but it was nothing to offset the new reduction in salary/royalties. Neither side seems particularly bitter about the departure. The Lakai staff was full of redundancies over at HUF. That's why they had to go.
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GT influence. Sad to see Daan of Vans.
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Thread about Daan but talking crailtap?
So WTF is happening with Daan, he going puma/nike or what?
I love that someone took me seriously and is waiting to see if Daan Van Der Linden will get on puma. I love slap
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Not sure if it's been brought up yet but Nike's also the reason why Guy and Koston had to end up leaving Girl, since Mike couldn't have Guy leaving two Crail companies and have Koston leave one of the last two he was on, but expect to stay on Girl.
Of course you can take all my Nike criticism with a grain of salt because I just bought a pair of CTAS highs and love them
That story always was super fucked and suspicious. I don't doubt its true but like, how do you NOT sue over that if you're entitled to something?
True, but in my mind, fucking me out of making decisions for or receiving money from a company I helped found would be a pretty easy way to throw away my friendship.
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Not sure if it's been brought up yet but Nike's also the reason why Guy and Koston had to end up leaving Girl, since Mike couldn't have Guy leaving two Crail companies and have Koston leave one of the last two he was on, but expect to stay on Girl.
Of course you can take all my Nike criticism with a grain of salt because I just bought a pair of CTAS highs and love them
That story always was super fucked and suspicious. I don't doubt its true but like, how do you NOT sue over that if you're entitled to something?
True, but in my mind, fucking me out of making decisions for or receiving money from a company I helped found would be a pretty easy way to throw away my friendship.
The thing is how much money is their really left to pick off the corpse of crailtap. If they are in as bad financial shape as people think, you are just paying for litigation for a company that would declare bankruptcy and you collect nothing.
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just realized they call it, “The 1-8,” because there are 18 holes on a golf course
Heard there is an Antihero Dunk Hi quick strike coming soon.
Does the insole have Andy Roy’s artwork?
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here ya go folks
(https://s9.postimg.org/jvajylxz3/Screenshot_20180109-100010.png)
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here ya go folks
(https://s9.postimg.org/jvajylxz3/Screenshot_20180109-100010.png)
Finally some sauce...Eight pages later.
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Those pumas look weird
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Those pumas look weird
That’s because they’re Reebok.
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That’s because they’re Reebok.
Rumas
(http://oxfordstudent.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/4835888920_022e73b080_b.jpg)
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footprint.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BdqMkPsh5YL/?hl=nl&taken-by=100procentskateshop
haha his brother gives good reasons to join nike.
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wack, his footage has immediately become boring
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Goddaanit
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That’s because they’re Reebok.
https://youtu.be/jd4TsegK9fQ
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could it be cuz he's gonna be chosen by germany as one of their olympic team members?? nike's tryna scoop up any and all potential athletes at the games?
...or Nike was like "ey, we'll pay you 2 grand more per month and give you better health insurance."
and Daan was like "Dope, sure"
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It would definitely be a power move by Germany to recruit a kid from the Netherlands to their Olympic team via Nike.
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i instantly stopped fucking w/ him after seeing the footy
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i fucking love this video! gnars for days for posting!
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i fucking love this video! gnars for days for posting!
Probably one of my favorite things on Youtube.
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Of he goes into nike limbo, occasionally appearing in mandatory clips shoe horned into john wilson nike ads. Fingers crossed he makes it onto the elite squad so they make him co sign one of those horrible sock dunks loooool
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People have bad days but just watching that one clip it looks like hes not even comfortable in that shoe. Might be some adjusting still..feel totally different than vans. Vans also break in signicicantly quicker.
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Slap does it again, unfortunately :-\
Reminds me of Guy Mariano when he first got on Nike, his clips seemed forced and out of place.
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This is a shame, glad he's getting money while he's young, just wish it was from vans
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TOLD YALL MOFOS
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It would definitely be a power move by Germany to recruit a kid from the Netherlands to their Olympic team via Nike.
Some of the geographical talk in this thread has been comical. I also saw someone state Nike is trying to make a power move with him and other North-east europeans. Pretty sure the Netherlands is refereed to as either just Western-Europe or North-West Europe. Plus, pretty much all of main Nike's team is from Western or North Western Europe with Youness (Belgium), Hjalte (Denmark), Karstan (Norway), Weiger (Netherlands), Daaarkness (Sweden), Vincent Touzery (France), and Oski (Sweden) plus Kyron Davis who is from the UK (whether you want to classify that as Europe is another discussion).
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UK is still part of Europe
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UK is still part of Europe
Nah bro, you didn't hear about Brexit?
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Of course, I voted in the referendum.
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Of course, I voted in the referendum.
Don't a bunch of the English consider themselves culturally different than Europe to a sizable extent that they don't consider themselves european? I know they are currently part of the European community and geologically they are part of the same plates that shape Europe. I've always thought it was a grey area, where a bunch of Brits wouldn't self-identify as european.
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I'm English and identify as English. The Welsh identify as Welsh, the Scottish as Scots. Nobody identifies as being British, let alone European. We are still all part of Europe however so I'm not talking shit for the sake of it.
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wack, his footage has immediately become boring
Nah.
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HAHA Classic.
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It would definitely be a power move by Germany to recruit a kid from the Netherlands to their Olympic team via Nike.
Weiger no longer the only German pro on nike!
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Weiger no longer the only German pro on nike!
Calling Wieger German!?
Blasphemy!
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It's now been confirmed via euro TM that Daan will be skating for PUMA upon their 2018 relaunch. Him and Addie Fridy will be the two AMs on the squad while Chaz Ortiz will be their only pro.
So he got demoted to am?
Must have. The corporate entities at PUMA probably talked with the 18 about bringing him back to the AM ranks for marketability reasons.
Explains the AH trip to Israel. Puma is a known patron of the Israeli army
Not sure if youre joking or not
The real explanation is that Dreamland and Grindline built alot of parks in Israel and you can skate 20 different concrete parks within a 4 hours drive. I always joke that the parks here were designed for the AH team and not for the locals because they are way too gnarly and have way too little street obstacles in them. the AH team loved them. i dont.
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Jacopo Carozzi insta story has Daan in some nikes
@pufftuffandskatestuff
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Jacopo Carozzi insta story has Daan in some nikes
@pufftuffandskatestuff
sounds like a sopranos character
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Jacopo Carozzi insta story has Daan in some nikes
@pufftuffandskatestuff
sounds like a sopranos character
From the old country
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Here's a screengrab from Jacopo Carozzi's Instagram Story of what appears to be Daan in Nikes.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/modest2929/IMG_9780_zpsqsfz709c.png)
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Still not buying it could be a doppleganger
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I just hope he's getting his money's worth.
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I just hope he's getting his money's worth.
1 000 000. in $ or €, but who cares...
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apologies, not sure how to embed on phone, looks like oski posted him doing a backside grind in some nikes as well
https://instagram.com/p/Bd7tBzrHI4d/
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apologies, not sure how to embed on phone, looks like oski posted him doing a backside grind in some nikes as well
https://instagram.com/p/Bd7tBzrHI4d/
Still not buying it could be a doppleganger
;D
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Nike eagle collab soon
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apologies, not sure how to embed on phone, looks like oski posted him doing a backside grind in some nikes as well
https://instagram.com/p/Bd7tBzrHI4d/
just enforces the fact that nike could make only black and white dunks, janoskis and blazers and the world would be happy.
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looks terrible on him, blends in with the 3000 flow dudes now
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Daan pro model in the near future?
What would that look like?
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looks terrible on him, blends in with the 3000 flow dudes now
As opposed to the very select few who wear vans?
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Daan pro model in the near future?
What would that look like?
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/11/07/80/110780c72ce719d626e66d6c16e0f3aa--nike-high-heels-all-nike-shoes.jpg)
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"Nike Bitches" sounds like a fetish porn site where girls wear nothing but dunks and step on a bunch of eggs and other stuff that makes satisfying crunching noises when you break it. I'm not sure how it works. Definitely never watched any porn like that. Definitely.
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looks terrible on him, blends in with the 3000 flow dudes now
As opposed to the very select few who wear vans?
yes because a lot of vans don't have their stripe on them so you can't really tell, all nike riders must have a visible swoosh
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looks terrible on him, blends in with the 3000 flow dudes now
As opposed to the very select few who wear vans?
yes because a lot of vans don't have their stripe on them so you can't really tell, all nike riders must have a visible swoosh
Yeah I remember how gaudy that 917 blazer low was that people continue to wear
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looks terrible on him, blends in with the 3000 flow dudes now
As opposed to the very select few who wear vans?
yes because a lot of vans don't have their stripe on them so you can't really tell, all nike riders must have a visible swoosh
Yeah I remember how gaudy that 917 blazer low was that people continue to wear
no idea what it looks like but I assume there is a swoosh somewhere on it
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looks terrible on him, blends in with the 3000 flow dudes now
As opposed to the very select few who wear vans?
yes because a lot of vans don't have their stripe on them so you can't really tell, all nike riders must have a visible swoosh
Yeah I remember how gaudy that 917 blazer low was that people continue to wear
no idea what it looks like but I assume there is a swoosh somewhere on it
http://instagram.com/p/BLHGciMhOxz/
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looks terrible on him, blends in with the 3000 flow dudes now
As opposed to the very select few who wear vans?
yes because a lot of vans don't have their stripe on them so you can't really tell, all nike riders must have a visible swoosh
Yeah I remember how gaudy that 917 blazer low was that people continue to wear
no idea what it looks like but I assume there is a swoosh somewhere on it
http://instagram.com/p/BLHGciMhOxz/
at first glance looked like a stan smith, very subtle swoosh job
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there is nothing more core than being adidas flow, confirmed.
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Daan pro model in the near future?
What would that look like?
This with a swoosh (https://content.backcountry.com/images/items/900/VAN/VAN0731/BLAWH.jpg)
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Dam I guess I was rite
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apologies, not sure how to embed on phone, looks like oski posted him doing a backside grind in some nikes as well
https://instagram.com/p/Bd7tBzrHI4d/
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Still not buying it could be a doppleganger
;D
He needs to be holding two forms of government ID and his mom or grandma there to identify him and call him out.
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we have to buy his shoe now so he can put food on the table. and we have to suck ropey strands of sperm straight out of his urethra because we are also responsible for sexually satisfying skateboarding professionals. I’ll see you guys at the gloryhole. just look for a pair of swooshes peeking out from under the stalls.
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this has been a long while coming...Nike been trying to get him for ages from what I know.
In other news, Axel of NB and onto Vans.
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What would that look like?
So, they’re going to take the Janoski Slip-Ons, change the stitching, and stick on Daan’s name instead of Janoski.
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no, they're going to give him a colourway (if he's lucky)
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What would that look like?
nah they'll keep janoskis name there, but just have Daans name on the side, like they did with nuggets shoe
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What would that look like?
nah they'll keep janoskis name there, but just have Daans name on the side, like they did with nuggets shoe
...and Janoski stacks more royalties...
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“Der Linden Pro” sounds funny
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Vans should've kept him and gave him a slip on, where that tag just says Daans instead of Vans.
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He's of the team page
https://www.vans.com/skate.html
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Thats cuz he's on nike
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Holy shit
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Ya
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wtf
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this has been a long while coming...Nike been trying to get him for ages from what I know.
In other news, Axel of NB and onto Vans.
awful replacement for vans lol
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They should be officially announcing him on Nike SB tomorrow.
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Sweet
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Cant wait
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Welcome video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUVVYc3SFe4
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Welcome video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUVVYc3SFe4
well that was..interesting..
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More footage than Guy's welcome clip I guess. Let's see how this rolls out for Daan coverage wise.
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he knows being on nike is wack, welcome daan clip had a bunch of people I didn't recognize, only weiger
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he knows being on nike is wack, welcome daan clip had a bunch of people I didn't recognize, only weiger
Need to learn to respect Youness.
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he knows being on nike is wack, welcome daan clip had a bunch of people I didn't recognize, only weiger
Need to learn to respect Youness.
since they sponsor errybody I can't keep track of who's who
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I feel like this is their euro version of Cory since they can’t promote him anymore with the accidental manslaughter thing.
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Welcome video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUVVYc3SFe4
Daamn
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he knows being on nike is wack, welcome daan clip had a bunch of people I didn't recognize, only weiger
Familiarise yourself with Oski now.
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I feel like this is their euro version of Cory since they can’t promote him anymore with the accidental manslaughter thing.
(http://favoritememes.com/_nw/95/39422987.jpg)
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he knows being on nike is wack, welcome daan clip had a bunch of people I didn't recognize, only weiger
watch more skating...Oski, Youness and Darkness have been ripping for awhile now.
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he knows being on nike is wack, welcome daan clip had a bunch of people I didn't recognize, only weiger
lol and u recognised the dude who hasnt done shit in over five years no hate on weiger though he got nike tenure
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he knows being on nike is wack, welcome daan clip had a bunch of people I didn't recognize, only weiger
2017 was 5 years ago. :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o69y0j2yfMI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DLWLWq6grs
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he knows being on nike is wack, welcome daan clip had a bunch of people I didn't recognize, only weiger
How many other gingers are on Nike?
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Vans should've kept him and gave him a slip on, where that tag just says Daans instead of Vans.
Yo Vans get this guy a job. Would buy