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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: Smartass on December 27, 2017, 09:53:29 PM
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Basically anything you tried and thought was pretty shitty.
I’ll start this off with Bronson G3s. Was recommended them as a cheaper alternative to Swiss with the same performance. They were fast at first, but after the first month they felt like crap. Should’ve just stuck to Swiss.
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Adidas Stan Smith vulc and Huf Hufnagel 2
Stan smiths hurt walking let alone skating
Huf 2 was slippery and "unresponsive"
Krux aren't all they are cracked up to be either
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Basically anything you tried and thought was pretty shitty.
I’ll start this off with Bronson G3s. Was recommended them as a cheaper alternative to Swiss with the same performance. They were fast at first, but after the first month they felt like crap. Should’ve just stuck to Swiss.
Seconded. These all broke almost simultaneously for me after a few months. Even Reds are better
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the fuck would you ever buy bearings that aren't Bones? are you stupid?
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Been riding indy's exclusively since 96. Tried some thunders last year. Hated them.
Basically ride 8" boards and when I order them online, the majority work out. Had one Heroin I ordered and just never got along with it. Gave to my buddies kid.
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the fuck would you ever buy bearings that aren't Bones? are you stupid?
More like a man-child and hyped on a team. Damn you Andale
Girl Pop Secret, felt dead on the first day and had close to nothing for concave
Enjoi Impact Plus, too flat
Huf Soto, lack of arch support
Any grip that isn't Mob
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Adidas Stan Smith vulc
terrible terrible shoe...
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Emerica Figgy shoe... comfortable, good cupsole support, flick felt nice, but the shoe upper is too thin for my taste. To me it felt like ankle sock boosted with rubber sole.
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The one set of OJ wheels I had felt plasticy and slow
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venture 5.25's - after coming off thunder 149's these things just sucked.
welcome soul splitter - love to love punk point boards but the nose felt small as hell.
emerica indicator - the whole cloth sole thing was not working out for me.
etnies jameson HT - i thought shoes couldn't be "too high" and then i got these.
huf socks - don't make you skate better.
any adidas shoe - just doesn't feel right ever.
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-Adidas matchcourts
-Thunder 149er team editions
-Bronson G3s....love the Bronson logo but like people stated above they die after a few weeks :(
-Real Full Shape....never understood the hype around real
-Transworld Skateboard Magazine....Thrasher is the only skate magazine I recognize.
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Every few years I get it in my head that I should skate some Vans. I like chilling in them and the outlet nearby always has smokin deals.
So grippy. Such board feel. Then I bail one flip trick, stomp on the concrete from 1 ft in the air and realize once again that I cannot skate this shit.
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the polar k1/p9 shape is flat as shit, and the tail is weird and at the worse angle. on indys i could barely do anything but flip tricks. really put me off shaped boards for now
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Wayward wheels are dog shit
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I've been noticing a ton of people have seemed to have bad luck with the Bronson G3's. I've been riding a set for a while now and I thought they were pretty good. I didn't feel like they've slowed down or anything like everyone else has reported, but it has made me paranoid that maybe I just "think" they're fast because I'm used to them. There was another post where a lot of people where showing love for Indy Blacks, and I found a good deal on a set so I'm going to give them a shot.
I know I'm in the minority on this but I just can't get the setup right on Indy trucks. I had a set and I kept changing bushings and adjusting the tightness all of the time trying to get it to where I felt stable. Eventually, I got a set of Thunder 149 team highs and once I put bones medium bushings on them, the setup worked really well and I finally feel comfortable on them. Someone gave me a set of Krux 8.25's and they aren't bad, but I am constantly messing with the bushings and tightness on those too.
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Wayward wheels are dog shit
I just bought a pair on sale :(
(luckily I also have a pair of spitfire classics F4 99s on ice in case the are that bad)
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Oj hot juice 60mm for my cruiser, the edges crumbled and cracked just thinking about a powerslide
Replaced them with 78duro 53mm ricta clouds and now I'm a happy camper
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the fuck would you ever buy bearings that aren't Bones? are you stupid?
This for not trusting my gut.
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Been riding indy's exclusively since 96. Tried some thunders last year. Hated them.
Basically ride 8" boards and when I order them online, the majority work out. Had one Heroin I ordered and just never got along with it. Gave to my buddies kid.
I am reading this as "Gave heroin to my buddies kid." And it is making me not mind work. Thanks!
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Reflex bearings back in 2000. I got the Abec-5s I think. The balks shot out of the bearings in about an hour. I sent them to DNA and they sent me back Abec-7s. Same thing happened in maybe 15 minutes. Went back to Swiss.
Also tried Darkstar wheels cuz Mullen and hated them intensely.
Ricta wheels felt like hard plastic shit when I tried those as well.
Lakai shoes are hit or miss to me. Team models I've liked better than pro.
Tensor trucks in 2001 I tried for maybe 1 day. Couldn't even ride those. Sold em on eBay.
I used to ride Girl decks a lot in 99-01 even though I knew the quality sucked? I just wanted Mariano and Sheffey boards. Then I'd skate AWS and feel like a dumb dumb for even touching those boards. Didn't like yet kept purchasing. Good times
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emerica indicator - the whole cloth sole thing was not working out for me.
huf socks - don't make you skate better.
any adidas shoe - just doesn't feel right ever.
I had the Indicator Low and they didn’t have the cloth sole. They were stitched in the right areas and had good cushioning/boardfeel.
Ha, they’re just comfortable and thicker...good if you have shoes that stretched a bit too much. The performance ones have grip on the bottoms, which is good when you get sweaty.
We have completely different feet. Adidas always feels good except for Stan Smiths and Matchcourts.
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the polar k1/p9 shape is flat as shit, and the tail is weird and at the worse angle. on indys i could barely do anything but flip tricks. really put me off shaped boards for now
I had that shape too and I didn't like it. tapered super weirdly in my opinion
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Reynolds' new shoe - too thick for me - rolled my ankle
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I’m gonna vent about that Stan smith vulc more.... it honestly blows me away that Diego Najera skates those things.
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(http://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41orm6zSr5L.jpg)
Did anyone ever give this stuff a try? I always felt like lighting your money on fire and watching it burn would be more effective use of the dollar.
Am I wrong? What does this one method accomplish that a sweaty hand with repeated heavy slaps can't?
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I just haven't had good luck with indy. I love the turn when they're wobbly loose, but the axle threads always seem to get fucked up super easy, grind feel stickier than other trucks, and they require too much tinkering with bushings and washers before they turn well. Gonna get me some Thunder 151 when I get paid next.
Bought a P2 deck cause I thought it would hold up in the humidity. Nose and tail were chipped to shit after three weeks and the pop was completely gone.
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a girl deck few years ago, broke on a switch fip on flat after 1 week, shittiest board ever
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Basically anything you tried and thought was pretty shitty.
I’ll start this off with Bronson G3s. Was recommended them as a cheaper alternative to Swiss with the same performance. They were fast at first, but after the first month they felt like crap. Should’ve just stuck to Swiss.
Seconded. These all broke almost simultaneously for me after a few months. Even Reds are better
I tried a pair of the Bronsons when I was given a free pair. Seemed great for the first week, then all the bearing cages broke apart at the same time. Went right back to swiss and have been on the same set for over a year now.
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99'- I regretted a Blind board that snapped on a 180 down a set.
00's-Any truck that wasn't a Indy just didn't flow right or grind right,I've heard good things about Ace but I just bought new 149s so it'll be a while.
Same situation with any wheel thats not Spitfire, Revolution wheels sucked,Darkstar wheels were like riding jaw breakers,Rictas were okay at first then turned to dogshit after a month.
I also regret not buying Hard Luck bearings sooner,they are great.
Rowley solos fucked up my toes,I had bad luck in the AV classics a few years back. The last Lakais I had fell off my feet,literally. I dodged a bullet trying on Supras before impulse buying them,the insole felt like a sandal.
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I realized in the summer that I like boards with a 14 - 14.25 wheelbase because I can't really nosemanny with a longer wheelbase. I tried a bunch of different type boards with longer wheelbases and never could figure out why I sucked at some of my normal tricks until I set up a baker b16.
I'm also not a fan of the tails on the shaped boards that I've had. Like on a nimbus 5000 the board is 8.75 but it tapers so much that the tail feels way too small and short.
That said, I really would like to try the Dane1 Polar shape because it has a short wheelbase, and those curves are sexy as fuck.
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99'- I regretted a Blind board that snapped on a 180 down a set.
00's-Any truck that wasn't a Indy just didn't flow right or grind right,I've heard good things about Ace but I just bought new 149s so it'll be a while.
Same situation with any wheel thats not Spitfire, Revolution wheels sucked,Darkstar wheels were like riding jaw breakers,Rictas were okay at first then turned to dogshit after a month.
I also regret not buying Hard Luck bearings sooner,they are great.
Rowley solos fucked up my toes,I had bad luck in the AV classics a few years back. The last Lakais I had fell off my feet,literally. I dodged a bullet trying on Supras before impulse buying them,the insole felt like a sandal.
rowley solos gave my pinky the worst blisters because of the stitching
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99'- I regretted a Blind board that snapped on a 180 down a set.
00's-Any truck that wasn't a Indy just didn't flow right or grind right,I've heard good things about Ace but I just bought new 149s so it'll be a while.
Same situation with any wheel thats not Spitfire, Revolution wheels sucked,Darkstar wheels were like riding jaw breakers,Rictas were okay at first then turned to dogshit after a month.
I also regret not buying Hard Luck bearings sooner,they are great.
Rowley solos fucked up my toes,I had bad luck in the AV classics a few years back. The last Lakais I had fell off my feet,literally. I dodged a bullet trying on Supras before impulse buying them,the insole felt like a sandal.
rowley solos gave my pinky the worst blisters because of the stitching
Exactly! I've been soaking my feet in Epsom salt more than lately because of those shoes. It took leaving them in my car on a hot day to break in and feel comfortable,but a few flip tricks in my pinky toe gets jacked.
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terrible terrible shoe...
Funny story... the killer on the first episode of John Walsh's The hunt episodes changes into a pair of these shoes in the woods after killing his family...rewound it a few times cuz it threw me off and sure nuff...Stan Smith vulcs :o
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99'- I regretted a Blind board that snapped on a 180 down a set.
00's-Any truck that wasn't a Indy just didn't flow right or grind right,I've heard good things about Ace but I just bought new 149s so it'll be a while.
Same situation with any wheel thats not Spitfire, Revolution wheels sucked,Darkstar wheels were like riding jaw breakers,Rictas were okay at first then turned to dogshit after a month.
I also regret not buying Hard Luck bearings sooner,they are great.
Rowley solos fucked up my toes,I had bad luck in the AV classics a few years back. The last Lakais I had fell off my feet,literally. I dodged a bullet trying on Supras before impulse buying them,the insole felt like a sandal.
rowley solos gave my pinky the worst blisters because of the stitching
I got two pairs of them on seperate occasions because I used to work at a shop that sold vans and it was the only time I was not thrilled to get free shoes. Solos were like the era pro only exponentially worse
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I really can't get into dlx boards. The long wheelbases don't go well with my stupid short legs. Every once in a while I'll cave and get a krooked board, thinking I'll get over the wheelbase but it never happens. I love the wood and the shape, but if they made an 8.25 x 31.5 with a 14 or 14.25 wheelbase I'd be set.
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I really can't get into dlx boards. The long wheelbases don't go well with my stupid short legs. Every once in a while I'll cave and get a krooked board, thinking I'll get over the wheelbase but it never happens. I love the wood and the shape, but if they made an 8.25 x 31.5 with a 14 or 14.25 wheelbase I'd be set.
Dude...I am in the same boat!!
I love the boards but at times the wheel base gets to me and I can’t snap a quick tiny rocket pop proper just for those big cracks and I’m doubting if I can even skate anymore
That feeling of a quick snap is all I want and it’s 50/50 with a deluxe lately
Back then idk if they did do shorter wheel bases but damn my first real was the best board I ever had! It was a jt aultz the age of quarrel series, 8.25x31.8 I think or maybe 32 and it was so thin and light but strong as fuck and it popped so perfect every time and felt so good but then 2 deluxe boards later they didn’t feel the same
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I really can't get into dlx boards. The long wheelbases don't go well with my stupid short legs. Every once in a while I'll cave and get a krooked board, thinking I'll get over the wheelbase but it never happens. I love the wood and the shape, but if they made an 8.25 x 31.5 with a 14 or 14.25 wheelbase I'd be set.
https://www.tactics.com/real/wair-shine-oval-825-full-shape-skateboard-deck
14.25 wb
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I really can't get into dlx boards. The long wheelbases don't go well with my stupid short legs. Every once in a while I'll cave and get a krooked board, thinking I'll get over the wheelbase but it never happens. I love the wood and the shape, but if they made an 8.25 x 31.5 with a 14 or 14.25 wheelbase I'd be set.
https://www.tactics.com/real/wair-shine-oval-825-full-shape-skateboard-deck
14.25 wb
The 8.4” shape has the 14.25” wheelbase also.
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terrible terrible shoe...
Funny story... the killer on the first episode of John Walsh's The hunt episodes changes into a pair of these shoes in the woods after killing his family...rewound it a few times cuz it threw me off and sure nuff...Stan Smith vulcs :o
So what you’re saying is if you like the shoe there’s something wrong with you?
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Rowley solos fucked up my toes,I had bad luck in the AV classics a few years back. The last Lakais I had fell off my feet,literally. I dodged a bullet trying on Supras before impulse buying them, the insole felt like a sandal.
Bought a pair of TK's shoe and the side blew out the same day I swapped insoles for a pair of FP Game changers. Got a pair of shifters on sale and the sole wore out quickly and the shoe hurt the joints connecting my toes to my feet. Kinda sketched out on trying anything else from them.
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terrible terrible shoe...
Funny story... the killer on the first episode of John Walsh's The hunt episodes changes into a pair of these shoes in the woods after killing his family...rewound it a few times cuz it threw me off and sure nuff...Stan Smith vulcs :o
So what you’re saying is if you like the shoe there’s something wrong with you?
I'm not agreeing with this but, I rarely dislike people before meeting them and the one of the few people I do dislike from right off the bat owns a pair he uses often.
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I’m gonna vent about that Stan smith vulc more.... it honestly blows me away that Diego Najera skates those things.
like how do these dudes even walk in those joints? those internal stripes were like razor blades
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terrible terrible shoe...
Funny story... the killer on the first episode of John Walsh's The hunt episodes changes into a pair of these shoes in the woods after killing his family...rewound it a few times cuz it threw me off and sure nuff...Stan Smith vulcs :o
makes sense, you wouldn’t be able to kill your family while wearing them because the shoes are too busy trying to murder your feet ;)
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the polar k1/p9 shape is flat as shit, and the tail is weird and at the worse angle. on indys i could barely do anything but flip tricks. really put me off shaped boards for now
looks like I might have dodged a bullet with that one as I wanted one for quite a while now. Stood on one in a skate shop and the owner was like, “good of you like a really long skinny nose” which is actually the opposite of what I was looking for. The shape still kinda teases me though... I think polar needs to shorten the wheelbase on a lot of their shaped models.
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any dwindle board i had. which luckily only were a few and years ago, that blind board i snapped after 2h of skating when i was 15 still haunts me.
tensors and ventures, of course.
any kinda pointy board in general.
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Rowley solos fucked up my toes,I had bad luck in the AV classics a few years back. The last Lakais I had fell off my feet,literally. I dodged a bullet trying on Supras before impulse buying them, the insole felt like a sandal.
Bought a pair of TK's shoe and the side blew out the same day I swapped insoles for a pair of FP Game changers. Got a pair of shifters on sale and the sole wore out quickly and the shoe hurt the joints connecting my toes to my feet. Kinda sketched out on trying anything else from them.
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terrible terrible shoe...
Funny story... the killer on the first episode of John Walsh's The hunt episodes changes into a pair of these shoes in the woods after killing his family...rewound it a few times cuz it threw me off and sure nuff...Stan Smith vulcs :o
So what you’re saying is if you like the shoe there’s something wrong with you?
I'm not agreeing with this but, I rarely dislike people before meeting them and the one of the few people I do dislike from right off the bat owns a pair he uses often.
The soles on my eS Creager's went out pretty fast and made them unskateable until I shoe goo'd another sole on.
It's funny you mentioned the TK,because my homie swore they were the shit haha!
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An orange toque.....
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Ricta wheels: When you're 12, can't do most tricks, and get chunked out wheels and flat spots in a week, there's a problem.
Indy ABEC 5: Slowed down super fast and I had to clean them multiple times, the 7's were better, but still not great. Blacks are solid.
Bones Bushings: Tried mediums in Indy and Thunder, and they were way too tight. The blues are nice, but they tore in a few sessions. The mediums in Theeve are fine, but something doesn't feel right about Theeve and I don't know what it is.
Any griptape that isn't Mob
Thunder 147s: Way too low, the 149's are much better. Wish they would make a new version of the 147's that are the same as the 149's but not as wide.
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Had a Snack 8.38. Love the company but fuck that board and its mile-long tail.
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Every few years I get it in my head that I should skate some Vans. I like chilling in them and the outlet nearby always has smokin deals.
So grippy. Such board feel. Then I bail one flip trick, stomp on the concrete from 1 ft in the air and realize once again that I cannot skate this shit.
Haha same!
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A friend gave me a Toy Machine board, shit was flat as fuck and heavy.
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I really can't get into dlx boards. The long wheelbases don't go well with my stupid short legs. Every once in a while I'll cave and get a krooked board, thinking I'll get over the wheelbase but it never happens. I love the wood and the shape, but if they made an 8.25 x 31.5 with a 14 or 14.25 wheelbase I'd be set.
Anti-Hero usually comes out with a couple boards each drop that are 8.28 x 31.65 with a 14.12 WB.
http://skateparkoftampa.com/spot/cz.aspx?ID=1&SID=8166&M=
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Every few years I get it in my head that I should skate some Vans. I like chilling in them and the outlet nearby always has smokin deals.
So grippy. Such board feel. Then I bail one flip trick, stomp on the concrete from 1 ft in the air and realize once again that I cannot skate this shit.
Haha same!
Me too....I can skate pretty much any vulc except vans....
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A friend gave me a Toy Machine board, shit was flat as fuck and heavy.
In 2018 (if they haven’t already) they are starting to use PS stix so fear no more
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Thunder 147s: Way too low, the 149's are much better. Wish they would make a new version of the 147's that are the same as the 149's but not as wide.
I believe the newer 147s are exactly that.
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Bronson G2's- Was being cheap when buying new wheels, bought into the hype and figured what the hell. Out of the box speed was gone after the 4th session. Back to Swiss for me.
Mob grip- Kind of like being able to shift my feet without having to pick them up completely. I'd pay for Jessup over free Mob any day.
Es' Accel slims- Look good, but my feet hurt after walking in them, especially if I step on a pebble.
Insaneathane 101 EZ edge- Loved OJ II team riders back in the day and wanted to give one of my old favorites some business. Just felt slow, unpredictable and sloppy.
I feel like the get off my lawn old man. But fuck trying new shit when you already know what works for you.
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Had a Snack 8.38. Love the company but fuck that board and its mile-long tail.
Was this recent? I'm sitting on an 8.38 Snack now and the tail looks fairly normal to me(I believe mine was from a run they did with South Central). Just curious.
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A friend gave me a Toy Machine board, shit was flat as fuck and heavy.
In 2018 (if they haven’t already) they are starting to use PS stix so fear no more
People keep saying that is that for real? Not that I'm calling you a liar but can anyone prove that? I would love to support them if they stop fucking around with that bullshit.
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PS serial number and everything.....
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A friend gave me a Toy Machine board, shit was flat as fuck and heavy.
In 2018 (if they haven’t already) they are starting to use PS stix so fear no more
People keep saying that is that for real? Not that I'm calling you a liar but can anyone prove that? I would love to support them if they stop fucking around with that bullshit.
I heard it straight from the distributer. Not sure about Foundation but they may swap also.
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Thunder 147s: Way too low, the 149's are much better. Wish they would make a new version of the 147's that are the same as the 149's but not as wide.
I believe the newer 147s are exactly that.
Newer 147?
I don’t think jim would let it happen to change the classic geo and height of the 147 hi. Cause it’s been the same height and all for probably a decade or longer
Plus i feel trucks 8” or shorter should not go past 52mm tall cause it’s like stilts after that with such a tall narrow width truck
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I really can't get into dlx boards. The long wheelbases don't go well with my stupid short legs. Every once in a while I'll cave and get a krooked board, thinking I'll get over the wheelbase but it never happens. I love the wood and the shape, but if they made an 8.25 x 31.5 with a 14 or 14.25 wheelbase I'd be set.
The 8.28 shape has a 14.1 wheel base.
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Bones Race reds, I was expecting something more for a 50 euros bearings, after 15 sessions two are broken and they had a really average speed.
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thread made me have flashbacks to dvs jeron j-dubs the most unskateable piece of shit shoes ive ever worn, but it really wasn't that big of a deal because i was more into eating than skating back then anyway
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but what was up with the stan smith vulcs, did adidas even have anyone try those on before sending them out? i'm still haunted by how unpleasant they felt the 20 seconds i had them on for
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The j-dubs looked tight though. You go strap or no strap?
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I've had numerous friends complain about 5boro boards. Stated the board literally felt like it was pressed with knots of wood in it, along with being beyond stiff. Personally, I've had two sets of spitfires chip after one day of skating. It was almost as if the wheel started to peel apart.
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I’m gonna vent about that Stan smith vulc more.... it honestly blows me away that Diego Najera skates those things.
Why do people hate these so much? I’ve never heard a single good thing about them. Are they that bad?
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I've had numerous friends complain about 5boro boards. Stated the board literally felt like it was pressed with knots of wood in it, along with being beyond stiff. Personally, I've had two sets of spitfires chip after one day of skating. It was almost as if the wheel started to peel apart.
I believe 5boro is made in the same factory as Girl so that makes complete sense
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Bronson's are crap. Dead in two weeks.
Any Watson pressed board, too heavy and dull. Nose/tail angle is weird too.
Any toe cap shoe, everything gets hung up on my feet resulting in even worse old man flail tricks.
Stubby, square nosed PS stix decks, just can't deal with looking down at it.
Also, NHS/SC/Creature decks. They are incredible when you get used to the shapes but they ruin you for other brands. Everything else feels weird after skating them if that makes sense.
Also square tail boards, they are the best for tailslides/ transition skating -but street... forget it.
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Newer 147?
I don’t think jim would let it happen to change the classic geo and height of the 147 hi. Cause it’s been the same height and all for probably a decade or longer
Plus i feel trucks 8” or shorter should not go past 52mm tall cause it’s like stilts after that with such a tall narrow width truck
I remember reading that they were redisgning the 147 because of the reception that the revised 149’s and new 148’s have been getting. Supposedly the 147’s were supposed to be updated by the end of this year.
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A friend gave me a Toy Machine board, shit was flat as fuck and heavy.
In 2018 (if they haven’t already) they are starting to use PS stix so fear no more
People keep saying that is that for real? Not that I'm calling you a liar but can anyone prove that? I would love to support them if they stop fucking around with that bullshit.
I heard it straight from the distributer. Not sure about Foundation but they may swap also.
I like Toy and stuff but hell, I really hated that board. Couldn't even ollie for a day or something, I had a Positive board( Welcome to south america, Venezuela) and I enjoyed more than the Toy, it had some concave and was light.
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captain obvious shit,but surely...Bronson!
and I never liked anything from Vans
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A friend gave me a Toy Machine board, shit was flat as fuck and heavy.
In 2018 (if they haven’t already) they are starting to use PS stix so fear no more
People keep saying that is that for real? Not that I'm calling you a liar but can anyone prove that? I would love to support them if they stop fucking around with that bullshit.
Toy has actually been PS Stix for a while now, well over a year. Waaaaaay back they were Watson. Then they changed to BBS and kept making a few of the classic logos on Watson wood. Then they changed the logo boards to a mix of BBS and PS, and now I believe it's all PS. But, they mostly use very flat PS molds. I've personally dug through the stacks at Tum Yeto, looking for a deck, and saw lots of inconsistencies in the shapes on each graphic which lead me to believe no one at Tum Yeto is too detail oriented about the wood (as in, some stacks of the same graphic had varying shapes etc).
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Damn, thanks guys for the links to the smaller wheelbase dlx boards. Definitely looking into those. Now I just have to get over real's horrendous graphics...
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Damn, thanks guys for the links to the smaller wheelbase dlx boards. Definitely looking into those. Now I just have to get over real's horrendous graphics...
You could get an Anti-Hero or Krooked...
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Damn, thanks guys for the links to the smaller wheelbase dlx boards. Definitely looking into those. Now I just have to get over real's horrendous graphics...
Yeah yeah, it's just I clicked the link to that 8.25 real with the full shape. Idk if other dlx boards have that particular shape, since they seem to have a myriad of shapes and sizes. All that being said I might just stick to my usual pick of south central wood or even crailtap (yes I somehow actually enjoy crail boards).
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A friend gave me a Toy Machine board, shit was flat as fuck and heavy.
In 2018 (if they haven’t already) they are starting to use PS stix so fear no more
People keep saying that is that for real? Not that I'm calling you a liar but can anyone prove that? I would love to support them if they stop fucking around with that bullshit.
Toy has actually been PS Stix for a while now, well over a year. Waaaaaay back they were Watson. Then they changed to BBS and kept making a few of the classic logos on Watson wood. Then they changed the logo boards to a mix of BBS and PS, and now I believe it's all PS. But, they mostly use very flat PS molds. I've personally dug through the stacks at Tum Yeto, looking for a deck, and saw lots of inconsistencies in the shapes on each graphic which lead me to believe no one at Tum Yeto is too detail oriented about the wood (as in, some stacks of the same graphic had varying shapes etc).
Just skated a Toy Machine board and I wouldn't say it was flat....pretty solid medium....normally don't find PS stuff is ever really flat....
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I know there’s a whole other thread about it, but I’m finding spitfire formula 4s to be slippery as fuck
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A friend gave me a Toy Machine board, shit was flat as fuck and heavy.
In 2018 (if they haven’t already) they are starting to use PS stix so fear no more
People keep saying that is that for real? Not that I'm calling you a liar but can anyone prove that? I would love to support them if they stop fucking around with that bullshit.
Toy has actually been PS Stix for a while now, well over a year. Waaaaaay back they were Watson. Then they changed to BBS and kept making a few of the classic logos on Watson wood. Then they changed the logo boards to a mix of BBS and PS, and now I believe it's all PS. But, they mostly use very flat PS molds. I've personally dug through the stacks at Tum Yeto, looking for a deck, and saw lots of inconsistencies in the shapes on each graphic which lead me to believe no one at Tum Yeto is too detail oriented about the wood (as in, some stacks of the same graphic had varying shapes etc).
Just skated a Toy Machine board and I wouldn't say it was flat....pretty solid medium....normally don't find PS stuff is ever really flat....
Hi Jsoy! ;) I'd have to agree that most PS boards are fairly steep, but I was working somewhere with a lot of stock of Toy last winter and they seemed to be using mellower molds on those particular decks. One of my homies just had a Toy board that was super flat too (7.8"), but I haven't been paying much attention to them lately and you've actually ridden one. You still riding skinny boards?
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I know there’s a whole other thread about it, but I’m finding spitfire formula 4s to be slippery as fuck
You’re not alone my friend, just can’t skate those things. Also Bronson G3’s sucked as stated so many times in this thread.
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I know there’s a whole other thread about it, but I’m finding spitfire formula 4s to be slippery as fuck
Even the 99s? What do you skate instead?
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Krux 8.25". Unstable but still wouldn't turn deep enough. Nothing I could do to them to make them work.
Bronson G3. Cages broke in a few months of skating flat. Piece of shit marketing hype.
14" wheelbase 8.25" Toy Machine China boards they sell in Europe. For anything besides flat, they're terrible for me. I'm a rather big guy, so short wheelbases feel way too short for me. I'm kinda blaming my 14" WB toy for breaking my leg on a miniramp even though in reality it was because I suck and was half committed and didn't really bail or try to properly do the trick.
OJ Little Doodies 58 mm 92A. The riding surface is so small that on rough ground they are slow as molasses. Durometer seems nice inbetween a hard and a soft wheel, but having wheels so slow that you have to push going down a 45° hill is a bit too slow. 😊
Independent Hard Bushings (black). Great if you want your board to not turn at all. Terrible if you want to actually turn. 😊
Independent combi bolts. They strip way too easily. I don't like Philips hardware either. Allen all the way.
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I know there’s a whole other thread about it, but I’m finding spitfire formula 4s to be slippery as fuck
Even the 99s? What do you skate instead?
Bones stf's.
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Independent Hard Bushings (black). Great if you want your board to not turn at all. Terrible if you want to actually turn. 😊
once broken, they 're perfect and durable
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I know there’s a whole other thread about it, but I’m finding spitfire formula 4s to be slippery as fuck
Streetburners sucked and felt like plastic. (Do they still make them?)
Formula 4s suck and feel like plastic.
To each their own, but I don’t get the hype. I will in all likelihood ride Classics till the day I die.
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Oj wheels are trash
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I don't think I can skate these 56 "g slide" wheels by bones. Too heavey and don't slide. I put my ricta 54s back on and it felt so light and better.
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A friend gave me a Toy Machine board, shit was flat as fuck and heavy.
In 2018 (if they haven’t already) they are starting to use PS stix so fear no more
People keep saying that is that for real? Not that I'm calling you a liar but can anyone prove that? I would love to support them if they stop fucking around with that bullshit.
Toy has actually been PS Stix for a while now, well over a year. Waaaaaay back they were Watson. Then they changed to BBS and kept making a few of the classic logos on Watson wood. Then they changed the logo boards to a mix of BBS and PS, and now I believe it's all PS. But, they mostly use very flat PS molds. I've personally dug through the stacks at Tum Yeto, looking for a deck, and saw lots of inconsistencies in the shapes on each graphic which lead me to believe no one at Tum Yeto is too detail oriented about the wood (as in, some stacks of the same graphic had varying shapes etc).
Just skated a Toy Machine board and I wouldn't say it was flat....pretty solid medium....normally don't find PS stuff is ever really flat....
Hi Jsoy! ;) I'd have to agree that most PS boards are fairly steep, but I was working somewhere with a lot of stock of Toy last winter and they seemed to be using mellower molds on those particular decks. One of my homies just had a Toy board that was super flat too (7.8"), but I haven't been paying much attention to them lately and you've actually ridden one. You still riding skinny boards?
I've sized up to an 8....the best is 8" with good concave ie. PS Stix which is what lead me back to toy machine....skating a 8" Magenta board and its flatter than the Toy Machine I skated....PS is consistency steeper than generator stuff which is why I gravitate towards them and the PS shapes are never pointy....
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I don't think I can skate these 56 "g slide" wheels by bones. Too heavey and don't slide. I put my ricta 54s back on and it felt so light and better.
I think you mean Powell. They are a great cruiser wheel in my opinion, especially if you want something harder than 78a. I can slide/revert them pretty well. Only reason I use my OJ Super Juice more is because I skate home from the bar at 2AM and the G-Slides are a lot louder. Since I skate in my driveway everyday I don't wanna piss off my neighbors any more than I already do.
I didn't really like the Ricta Cloud 92a. They feel softer than my 85a G-Slides and their size/width makes them not that great of a cruiser wheel, so you can't really do much with them. Quality wheels, just don't see the point. Might as well go full street or full cruiser.
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I don't think I can skate these 56 "g slide" wheels by bones. Too heavey and don't slide. I put my ricta 54s back on and it felt so light and better.
I think you mean Powell. They are a great cruiser wheel in my opinion, especially if you want something harder than 78a. I can slide/revert them pretty well. Only reason I use my OJ Super Juice more is because I skate home from the bar at 2AM and the G-Slides are a lot louder. Since I skate in my driveway everyday I don't wanna piss off my neighbors any more than I already do.
I didn't really like the Ricta Cloud 92a. They feel softer than my 85a G-Slides and their size/width makes them not that great of a cruiser wheel, so you can't really do much with them. Quality wheels, just don't see the point. Might as well go full street or full cruiser.
-You said you can do reverts with the g slides but can you throw 4 wheel slides on hills whenever with them? That's what sliding means to me, -4 wheels. Kudos if you can, you got some power. Cruiser wheels aren't for me cause I can only fuck with one set up at a time. One board guy.
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I don't think I can skate these 56 "g slide" wheels by bones. Too heavey and don't slide. I put my ricta 54s back on and it felt so light and better.
I think you mean Powell. They are a great cruiser wheel in my opinion, especially if you want something harder than 78a. I can slide/revert them pretty well. Only reason I use my OJ Super Juice more is because I skate home from the bar at 2AM and the G-Slides are a lot louder. Since I skate in my driveway everyday I don't wanna piss off my neighbors any more than I already do.
I didn't really like the Ricta Cloud 92a. They feel softer than my 85a G-Slides and their size/width makes them not that great of a cruiser wheel, so you can't really do much with them. Quality wheels, just don't see the point. Might as well go full street or full cruiser.
-You said you can do reverts with the g slides but can you throw 4 wheel slides on hills whenever with them? That's what sliding means to me, -4 wheels. Kudos if you can, you got some power. Cruiser wheels aren't for me cause I can only fuck with one set up at a time. One board guy.
You're right I don't do proper power slides with any wheels, but as far as 2-wheel hill bomb speed checks I found the G-Slides work better than any other cruiser wheel I've tried. I'm not convinced it's for any other reason than they are just harder than normal, but they still skate real smooth. For a non-cruiser setup they aren't going to work for sure.
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A friend gave me a Toy Machine board, shit was flat as fuck and heavy.
In 2018 (if they haven’t already) they are starting to use PS stix so fear no more
People keep saying that is that for real? Not that I'm calling you a liar but can anyone prove that? I would love to support them if they stop fucking around with that bullshit.
Toy has actually been PS Stix for a while now, well over a year. Waaaaaay back they were Watson. Then they changed to BBS and kept making a few of the classic logos on Watson wood. Then they changed the logo boards to a mix of BBS and PS, and now I believe it's all PS. But, they mostly use very flat PS molds. I've personally dug through the stacks at Tum Yeto, looking for a deck, and saw lots of inconsistencies in the shapes on each graphic which lead me to believe no one at Tum Yeto is too detail oriented about the wood (as in, some stacks of the same graphic had varying shapes etc).
Just skated a Toy Machine board and I wouldn't say it was flat....pretty solid medium....normally don't find PS stuff is ever really flat....
Hi Jsoy! ;) I'd have to agree that most PS boards are fairly steep, but I was working somewhere with a lot of stock of Toy last winter and they seemed to be using mellower molds on those particular decks. One of my homies just had a Toy board that was super flat too (7.8"), but I haven't been paying much attention to them lately and you've actually ridden one. You still riding skinny boards?
I've sized up to an 8....the best is 8" with good concave ie. PS Stix which is what lead me back to toy machine....skating a 8" Magenta board and its flatter than the Toy Machine I skated....PS is consistency steeper than generator stuff which is why I gravitate towards them and the PS shapes are never pointy....
It depends what brand you choose. DLX brands have more boards pressed with the steeper molds, and they also now use roman numerals to signify where in the press each deck was, so if you like steeper concave you know which decks are from the top of the stack. DLX does the full shapes as well, which are extra square like most PS shapes are now. I'd love to try a PS board, but I can't stand those super square shapes, and almost all PS boards have big noses with short tails. I prefer a more symmetrical shape, though not to the extent of Ishod's symmetrical models. Magenta and many other brands use the 'stock' mold option from BBS/Generator which is a mid-to-flat concave. I also don't like pointy boards (ie the old classic baker/birdhouse taper shapes), but the super square is too far in the blunt direction. I rode the standard 8.125 BBS shape for years, which is a perfect popsicle with barely any taper, then moved up to 8.25. Now I'm onto the 8.3 range. You'd probably like the 8.06 full DLX shape.
I still haven't been to Ultimate since they moved, we should have a sesh there and then nerd out on boards. ;)
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I don't think I can skate these 56 "g slide" wheels by bones. Too heavey and don't slide. I put my ricta 54s back on and it felt so light and better.
I think you mean Powell. They are a great cruiser wheel in my opinion, especially if you want something harder than 78a. I can slide/revert them pretty well. Only reason I use my OJ Super Juice more is because I skate home from the bar at 2AM and the G-Slides are a lot louder. Since I skate in my driveway everyday I don't wanna piss off my neighbors any more than I already do.
I didn't really like the Ricta Cloud 92a. They feel softer than my 85a G-Slides and their size/width makes them not that great of a cruiser wheel, so you can't really do much with them. Quality wheels, just don't see the point. Might as well go full street or full cruiser.
-You said you can do reverts with the g slides but can you throw 4 wheel slides on hills whenever with them? That's what sliding means to me, -4 wheels. Kudos if you can, you got some power. Cruiser wheels aren't for me cause I can only fuck with one set up at a time. One board guy.
You're right I don't do proper power slides with any wheels, but as far as 2-wheel hill bomb speed checks I found the G-Slides work better than any other cruiser wheel I've tried. I'm not convinced it's for any other reason than they are just harder than normal, but they still skate real smooth. For a non-cruiser setup they aren't going to work for sure.
Thats a sick way to speed check. I couldn't even do that with them so they scare the fuk out of me. When you say your not convinced, are you refering to the notion that the larger nylon hub makes them more 'slideable'? I think it does but more for longboarders. Theres 'shortboard' guys I saw in the ad for these wheels and they're sliding the shit out of these. -Don't know how they do that.
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Thats a sick way to speed check. I couldn't even do that with them so they scare the fuk out of me. When you say your not convinced, are you refering to the notion that the larger nylon hub makes them more 'slideable'? I think it does but more for longboarders. Theres 'shortboard' guys I saw in the ad for these wheels and they're sliding the shit out of these. -Don't know how they do that.
I dunno, I think I'm not explaining it well. I basically slide them kinda like how they do in the 3 second parking garage clip of that ad. Sometimes at the top of hills I'll do sliding reverts just to slow down a bit, especially into blind spots. I do feel like I could probably slide them like in the ad if I was all padded up and hauling ass.
The hub probably makes a difference, but to me it just feels like they slide because they're a bit harder than normal. I could be wrong. They also have a kinda chalky feeling. I had a lot harder time sliding my Ricta Cloud 92a, and of course my Super Juice I don't even try. I think they are great wheels for the right person.
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Cheap Chinese hardware and bearings seem generally indistinguishable, but Lucky seemed to use the very cheapest quality. Bearing shields would fall after just opening the box.
Podium era vulcanized Lakai were some of the worst shoes ever.
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Cheap Chinese hardware and bearings seem generally indistinguishable, but Lucky seemed to use the very cheapest quality. Bearing shields would fall after just opening the box.
Podium era vulcanized Lakai were some of the worst shoes ever.
I remember trying some Lucky ABEC7’s back in the day and came to the same conclusion. I believe it was right after those where I said fuck it and picked up some Bones Swiss for the first time.
Another random one to add to the list while remembering some other stuff I used back in the day. Phantom Trucks sucked.
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Thunder 149s (before update): Wheelbite city
Indy 149 Stage 10: Not turny enough
Mob Grip: Front foot wouldn't drag, could barely ollie
Every Adidas skate shoe: Looks great, no cushioning
The Bird II: Actually, this was great. You don't even need to ollie to get up curbs, dude!
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Ari's magical crystal grip tape.....
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Gravis Dylan Mid, Fallen Rambler, Era & Old School Pro around 2015
Most of Vox was garbage and so was IPath after they added guys like Jon Goemann and Jaws...they got rid of the Grasshopper and Cats to make thin, vulc shoes like everyone else.
I never realized how shitty some shoes were until I hit my mid to late 20s. Calloused feet and a high tolerance for pain kept me oblivious.
Fuck Grizzly grip, by the way. The adhesive on it was shitty and I got heckled for not sanding my board before applying it, which is supposed to be the proper way...fuck them and Paradox. Before anyone asks, it was the all black with the perforated 2” bear in the lower half of the sheet.
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Bronson G3, bought when the weather started warming up and were all broken by time it was consistently above 50 outside. Went back to reds and its been 7 months and no complaints.
Old boss sprung for the RAWS and said that one froze the second time he skated them so no bother for me to upgrade.
Spitfire Formula Four Kwalks. Bought as the same time as the bronsons, and to their credit I'm still skating them but I noticed they have way more chunks missing out of them than my SML wheels that I skated for nearly two years. Also, I have shamefully fallen while pushing because the wheels just slide all over the place. And I never felt I got the same response as my old SMLs either. Going back to SML or Bones in the spring.
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14" wheelbase 8.25" Toy Machine China boards they sell in Europe.
Yeah, what is the deal with this? I saw a friend riding a toy board around 4 years ago (in Greece) and could not believe that they would put their logo on such a piece of shit. The board was really flat but in a bad way and the wood had no pop. Also, too many pressure cracks although the board looked like it had been skated for just a few hours. I have been wondering ever since. Saw some 5 boro's and crail boards during the same period having similar issues with mad pressure cracks and absolutely no concave on the nose and tail.
Personal worst would be the element featherlight wheels. Surprised no one has mentioned these. I put them on, did 2 laps round the spot, took them of and carried on using my slightly flatspotted, year old set of whatever I was riding prior.
Etnies low cut (the new ones). What were they thinking when they chose that shitty plastic for outsole? it felt more like plastic than rubber, the most slippery soles ever - even when paired with mob it was still impossible to skate those shoes.
Lucky bearings circa 2010
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14" wheelbase 8.25" Toy Machine China boards they sell in Europe.
Yeah, what is the deal with this? I saw a friend riding a toy board around 4 years ago (in Greece) and could not believe that they would put their logo on such a piece of shit. The board was really flat but in a bad way and the wood had no pop. Also, too many pressure cracks although the board looked like it had been skated for just a few hours. I have been wondering ever since. Saw some 5 boro's and crail boards during the same period having similar issues with mad pressure cracks and absolutely no concave on the nose and tail.
Personal worst would be the element featherlight wheels. Surprised no one has mentioned these. I put them on, did 2 laps round the spot, took them of and carried on using my slightly flatspotted, year old set of whatever I was riding prior.
Etnies low cut (the new ones). What were they thinking when they chose that shitty plastic for outsole? it felt more like plastic than rubber, the most slippery soles ever - even when paired with mob it was still impossible to skate those shoes.
Lucky bearings circa 2010
The feather light cores? I had a pair, the core seperated from the wheel pretty early on. I wasted so much money on those. I forgot about them until just now.
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surprised no one has mentioned the Huf Classics
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surprised no one has mentioned the Huf Classics
I like them... way better than emerica indicators imo which are mentioned in both threads (I think.)
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surprised no one has mentioned the Huf Classics
Indicators have better support and stitching, but not boardfeel, but my pair is from last season I think. People were also saying that there was that slippery shit on the soles, that they use on shoes to reduce import costs...could have been an earlier season.
Classics have fucked my ankles and especially toes, where the rubber overlaps with the material by the bottom eyelet.
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They are pretty 'what you see is what you get'......not the best shoe but I never paid over $50 for them....no tread sucked but it's not like I didn't see that coming.....
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It's true that Emerica sprayed felt on the soles of the first runs of the indicator which I've since been told was a production error.
IMO the Indicators have better board-feel due to the 3mm ortholite insole being the only padding. The insole in huf classics have a thicker heel than the indicators (around 5mm), and it cups your heel too, so I feel more supported in Classics. Keep in mind I'm talking about the mid/hi-top version of both.
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Have to agree but dunk hi elites were god awful. Hard to put on, not comfortable at all, and my soles broke apart also
Those Bronson shieldless bearings are pieces of shit
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It's true that Emerica sprayed felt on the soles of the first runs of the indicator which I've since been told was a production error.
IMO the Indicators have better board-feel due to the 3mm ortholite insole being the only padding. The insole in huf classics have a thicker heel than the indicators (around 5mm), and it cups your heel too, so I feel more supported in Classics. Keep in mind I'm talking about the mid/hi-top version of both.
I was swapping back and forth between Huf Classic hi's and Even's DC shoe last couple years.....Even's won....now I've got match courts, blazers, and state salems....
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Wayward wheels are dog shit
(luckily I also have a pair of spitfire classics F4 99s on ice in case the are that bad)
Any feedback Imp??
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Crupies, way too thin and doesnt slide at all on some smooth concrete sidewalks.
@Rob, I just set up some wayward 101s and they feel significantly better in terms of slide and overall feel, just first impressions though. Can't speak to the durability of either wheel yet though as I gave up on the crupies real quick
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Bronson G3, cages broke way too fast skatin basically only flat
Bones Bushings Medium, the hard part of the bushing got sucked into the soft part (I skate loose as fuck trucks)
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Have to agree but dunk hi elites were god awful. Hard to put on, not comfortable at all, and my soles broke apart also
Those Bronson shieldless bearings are pieces of shit
Ditto on the dunk hi and low elites; couldn't get my foot into the hi's in the same size I wear in the regular hi's and the low's were super tight/painful.
Also agree on the Bronson Raw as they are just bearings without shields which get dirty faster and then die faster; not sure how I didn't see that coming.
Welcome are way too flat for my liking, but they do look nice on the wall so not a total loss.
All Adidas I've tried have either zero cushioning or have so much around the foot which completely crowds the shoe and makes it uncomfortable to skate along with a sweaty mess.
Nike Blazer XT are super narrow in the toebox.
...I'm old and I could gripe about a lot of product hardly ridden sitting under my garage mini.
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Have to agree but dunk hi elites were god awful. Hard to put on, not comfortable at all, and my soles broke apart also
Those Bronson shieldless bearings are pieces of shit
Ditto on the dunk hi and low elites; couldn't get my foot into the hi's in the same size I wear in the regular hi's and the low's were super tight/painful.
Also agree on the Bronson Raw as they are just bearings without shields which get dirty faster and then die faster; not sure how I didn't see that coming.
Welcome are way too flat for my liking, but they do look nice on the wall so not a total loss.
All Adidas I've tried have either zero cushioning or have so much around the foot which completely crowds the shoe and makes it uncomfortable to skate along with a sweaty mess.
Nike Blazer XT are super narrow in the toebox.
...I'm old and I could gripe about a lot of product hardly ridden sitting under my garage mini.
I'm curious how much longer nike is gonna do the elite high. The majority of the people who have had them have had the soles fall apart. the only redeeming factor was when I sent them back they gave me a nike gift card for way more than I paid for the shoes
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Crupies, way too thin and doesnt slide at all on some smooth concrete sidewalks.
@Rob, I just set up some wayward 101s and they feel significantly better in terms of slide and overall feel, just first impressions though. Can't speak to the durability of either wheel yet though as I gave up on the crupies real quick
Thanks for the feedback bro!! I’m strongly considering getting some but figuring out the 99 or the 101, I like grip more than slide but still want it. Might get both
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Crupies, way too thin and doesnt slide at all on some smooth concrete sidewalks.
@Rob, I just set up some wayward 101s and they feel significantly better in terms of slide and overall feel, just first impressions though. Can't speak to the durability of either wheel yet though as I gave up on the crupies real quick
Thanks for the feedback bro!! I’m strongly considering getting some but figuring out the 99 or the 101, I like grip more than slide but still want it. Might get both
If you're getting waywards I hope you like flat spots over both of those
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Crupies, way too thin and doesnt slide at all on some smooth concrete sidewalks.
@Rob, I just set up some wayward 101s and they feel significantly better in terms of slide and overall feel, just first impressions though. Can't speak to the durability of either wheel yet though as I gave up on the crupies real quick
You need to break your Crupies in, get those treads worn down some. They're pretty deep. I noticed the lack of sliding too but powered through. They're solid wheels.
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They are pretty 'what you see is what you get'......not the best shoe but I never paid over $50 for them....no tread sucked but it's not like I didn't see that coming.....
I think that my biggest issue with the classics is that they wear down so fast. My friend when he first started skating got a pair, and blew a hole just trying to learn proper Ollie’s in some suede black ones in less than a week. His toe cap also looked like he had been doing kick flips and tres since day he got them.
However, if you find them on sale and have some shoe goo, they’re not bad. I think he picked his up for under $25. Once shoe goo’d, they lasted him a good month or so before tread blew out.
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I just got a pair of canvas classics from a store that’s closing for $11. I liked my last pair but they were the shitty ones where the soul peels off. The flick is good in them but I mostly wore them when I skate tranny
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I just got a pair of canvas classics from a store that’s closing for $11. I liked my last pair but they were the shitty ones where the soul peels off. The flick is good in them but I mostly wore them when I skate tranny
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Crupies, way too thin and doesnt slide at all on some smooth concrete sidewalks.
@Rob, I just set up some wayward 101s and they feel significantly better in terms of slide and overall feel, just first impressions though. Can't speak to the durability of either wheel yet though as I gave up on the crupies real quick
You need to break your Crupies in, get those treads worn down some. They're pretty deep. I noticed the lack of sliding too but powered through. They're solid wheels.
The treads are gone, a little bit better but something about the slide just feels off. It could honestly have as much to do with the slim profile as it does the urethane, but I just got some wide waywards and the slide is far more satisfying. Those crupies would be great at parks, but any terrain thats somewhat chunky the slim profile is going to be problematic.
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Anyone remember Autobahn bearings? Tried them a few years back, lasted about a month. Went back to Bones Reds.
Emerica Leo Romero 1, those things fell apart faster than you can say "air five me dude."
Was bummed since I had a great experience with the Emerica Heretics.
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One of those psstix boards that starts as an 8.5, but tapers to 8.25 over the back trucks.
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I just finished a 6-month "try out" of the 8.25" Thunder Team Hollows. The biggest problem I had with them was that whole baseplate-does-not-clear-distance-of-wheels issue. Unless the curb/ledge/etc was waxed to high hell by some turboclown, nose/tails slides always stuck on me from the wheels hitting the edge (riding 53mm Spits). This problem does not exist on any other truck. Once I was back on Indys I also realized the lower height, and longer wheels base, of Thunders just didn't have the same "pop" as Indys, despite Indys being heavier. Also, Indys turn. I am glad a tried Thunders, because now I can say with certainty, "Ride the best, fuck the rest."
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I just finished a 6-month "try out" of the 8.25" Thunder Team Hollows. The biggest problem I had with them was that whole baseplate-does-not-clear-distance-of-wheels issue. Unless the curb/ledge/etc was waxed to high hell by some turboclown, nose/tails slides always stuck on me from the wheels hitting the edge (riding 53mm Spits). This problem does not exist on any other truck. Once I was back on Indys I also realized the lower height, and longer wheels base, of Thunders just didn't have the same "pop" as Indys, despite Indys being heavier. Also, Indys turn. I am glad a tried Thunders, because now I can say with certainty, "Ride the best, fuck the rest."
After trying every truck brand on the market in every size, I can safely say that Indy are part of the rest.
edit: but god damn do they have the best team/branding
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I don't know much,but what I do know is that if it was me,or anyone else grinding the ledges in my sig, they were running Indy's. You might get lucky to get a little scratch in on other trucks,but there was just something about Indy's going the distance.
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Indys were the only trucks I had to have kingpins break, I even waited to be sent a kingpin in the mail like a sucker, put it back together, rolled down my drive way and the other kingpin broke. Threw em right in the trash, where they belonged and hopefully are still to this day.
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Adidas Busenitz. Sat on a pair for 5 years and ended up selling them.
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I just finished a 6-month "try out" of the 8.25" Thunder Team Hollows. The biggest problem I had with them was that whole baseplate-does-not-clear-distance-of-wheels issue. Unless the curb/ledge/etc was waxed to high hell by some turboclown, nose/tails slides always stuck on me from the wheels hitting the edge (riding 53mm Spits). This problem does not exist on any other truck. Once I was back on Indys I also realized the lower height, and longer wheels base, of Thunders just didn't have the same "pop" as Indys, despite Indys being heavier. Also, Indys turn. I am glad a tried Thunders, because now I can say with certainty, "Ride the best, fuck the rest."
edit: but god damn do they have the best team/branding
Right! But thunder truly is the leader in control! And response!
Yeah Indy’s are very ehhhhhh
But very true what you said, marketing and branding is key.
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Indys were the only trucks I had to have kingpins break, I even waited to be sent a kingpin in the mail like a sucker, put it back together, rolled down my drive way and the other kingpin broke. Threw em right in the trash, where they belonged and hopefully are still to this day.
Did you put too much weight up front doing a crook? Early stages sucked with that shit but after stage 7 or 8 that and the axle slipping stopped being a thing
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I just finished a 6-month "try out" of the 8.25" Thunder Team Hollows. The biggest problem I had with them was that whole baseplate-does-not-clear-distance-of-wheels issue. Unless the curb/ledge/etc was waxed to high hell by some turboclown, nose/tails slides always stuck on me from the wheels hitting the edge (riding 53mm Spits). This problem does not exist on any other truck. Once I was back on Indys I also realized the lower height, and longer wheels base, of Thunders just didn't have the same "pop" as Indys, despite Indys being heavier. Also, Indys turn. I am glad a tried Thunders, because now I can say with certainty, "Ride the best, fuck the rest."
edit: but god damn do they have the best team/branding
Give us some detailed observations on what you liked/disliked about different brands. That stuff is always good to read.
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I just finished a 6-month "try out" of the 8.25" Thunder Team Hollows. The biggest problem I had with them was that whole baseplate-does-not-clear-distance-of-wheels issue. Unless the curb/ledge/etc was waxed to high hell by some turboclown, nose/tails slides always stuck on me from the wheels hitting the edge (riding 53mm Spits). This problem does not exist on any other truck. Once I was back on Indys I also realized the lower height, and longer wheels base, of Thunders just didn't have the same "pop" as Indys, despite Indys being heavier. Also, Indys turn. I am glad a tried Thunders, because now I can say with certainty, "Ride the best, fuck the rest."
edit: but god damn do they have the best team/branding
Right! But thunder truly is the leader in control! And response!
Yeah Indy’s are very ehhhhhh
But very true what you said, marketing and branding is key.
I love the lower height of thunders, WB lengthening & pop but...I can't get them carvy enough based on the geo and how I like to skate.
Theeve have been treating me super well of late. I get a quicker turn than Indy and as close to ACE as I can get...some weight reduction (tikings, going to upsize to 8.5 and get some tiax hangers) and more stability than ACE or Indy but not close to thunders; height-wise even tho they claim 55mm, they don't feel tippy like Indys or Krux do.
The only thing I'm having a tough time with are the bushings, the stocks are too hard and really tall(er than anything other than Bitch bushings) so I'm using stock theeve bottoms and soft bones tops (with bones washers top and bottom as the Kingpins are really long it seems or the stock theeves are taller, I'd have to check, than the bones tops because I get a lot of thread exposed).
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The only thing I'm having a tough time with are the bushings, the stocks are too hard and really tall(er than anything other than Bitch bushings) so I'm using stock theeve bottoms and soft bones tops (with bones washers top and bottom as the Kingpins are really long it seems or the stock theeves are taller, I'd have to check, than the bones tops because I get a lot of thread exposed).
I had the same problems On my thunder 149s, but I circumvented it backwards from you: - I swapped my bottom bushings out with hard white doh-dohs
- flat-filed down the top stock bushings by hand (100 years worth of work.)
- Lastly, I scrapped the bottom most washer on both trucks, while leaving the washer at the top of the kingpin intact.
now they are loose as a bitch,but still i have control, for the most part.
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Adidas Busenitz (too narrow and felt like they had lifts in them)
Regular formula OJs
(messup with) Jessup
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Wayward wheels are dog shit
(luckily I also have a pair of spitfire classics F4 99s on ice in case the are that bad)
Any feedback Imp??
mate, I haven't set them up yet as a have a northern co./ spitfire classic F4 setup that I'm going to ride first. Sorry bout that
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Wayward wheels are dog shit
(luckily I also have a pair of spitfire classics F4 99s on ice in case the are that bad)
Any feedback Imp??
I have some 101 wayward round cut fulls that I'm currently skating. They seem to hold speed well and are quite hard. Slide is nice and responsive, compared to 99 f4s, I'd say the slide is very similar, maybe a bit easier to break into a slide as they are 101, and a bit barkier. Good wheels so far
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Ricta air cores back in the day, felt plastic as shit.
Those Nike SB's with a big toe cap, never got along with my feet.
Jessup never worked for me.
FKD bearings.
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Nike Sb blazers with toe cap
Nike Sb corey's with toe cap
HATED them.
Tried the adidas matchcourt and they're incredible.
Figured out I loved the toe shape of the matchcourt much more.
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Nike Sb blazers with toe cap
Nike Sb corey's with toe cap
HATED them.
Tried the adidas matchcourt and they're incredible.
Figured out I loved the toe shape of the matchcourt much more.
That was also my issue with the Blazers. Great looking shoe, but was never able to get used to how tall the toe on it was.
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Kontrol Wheels. Was given a set of these and they were about as slippery as skating in the rain. Felt like plastic too.
Probably should have kept them around for longest powerslide challenges.
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Nike Sb blazers with toe cap
Nike Sb corey's with toe cap
HATED them.
Tried the adidas matchcourt and they're incredible.
Figured out I loved the toe shape of the matchcourt much more.
Gonna skate regular ass Blazers next...
That was also my issue with the Blazers. Great looking shoe, but was never able to get used to how tall the toe on it was.
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Add the Adidas Suciu to this list for me - heel slippage even after trying other insoles - adiprene is comfy but not worth the effort of putting your foot in this shoe, even without laces my sock would not slide over that insole.
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Add the Adidas Suciu to this list for me - heel slippage even after trying other insoles - adiprene is comfy but not worth the effort of putting your foot in this shoe, even without laces my sock would not slide over that insole.
adidas: sizing never works for me....busenitz pro is too big in size 8 and my heel slips out, 7,5 too short and my heel still feels like slipping out the shoe all the time......
converse CTAS: was so excited when i first got them but couldn't get my flip tricks proper with the toe cap. if i skated transition only that would be the only shoe but since i mostly skate flatground and ledges i never got it to work. i also felt like the shoe was too still around the front due to the toecap and flimsy towards the back so my heel was all over the place and i didn't wanna lace those all the way up cause i think it looks stupid!
wayward wheels: got them given to me from a friend. can't remember the formula but it might have been some 101a classic kinda shape didn't powerslide for shit so straight back to F4 99a classics and never looked back!
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i didn't wanna lace those all the way up cause i think it looks stupid!
That's on you, Holmes
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Not sure if I said it before but the Huf Soto, fit tight and lacked arch support. Also rolled my ankle by swapping for something with slightly more arch support
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I had a Foundation Fiberlam board that was awful. It flexed like a snowboard except I broke it in no time at all. Was kinda relived when it snapped, tbh. Never messed with gimmicky tech boards since.
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I tried some OJ's, size 57mm, Gresyon Fletchers not long ago. The wheel was fine, but didn't care much for the slide. It felt like whenever I tried to do so, it stuck midslide, leaving me rolling off to the side and going much slower than my F4's would. I still have them and I even ran them again not too long ago when the tread wore down some more, but I still had that sticky slide. Kinda disappointed considering all the GX1000 footy I've seen.
Also bought a pair of Reynolds (the midtop from 2012-13 ish) and some Indicator lows. The former was a bit too narrow with that internal bootie, and the latter felt too thin and had a shit insole to boot. Not too stoked on Emerica at the moment. Also, who do I have fight over at FA/Hockey to get them to make an 8.75 or a board with a wheelbase longer than just 14 inches? Tried two of their boards (dumb, I know.) and flowed them both to the homies. Any way, I'm done.
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I tried some OJ's, size 57mm, Gresyon Fletchers Kinda disappointed considering all the GX1000 footy I've seen.
Also, who do I have fight over at FA/Hockey to get them to make an 8.75 or a board with a wheelbase longer than just 14 inches? Tried two of their boards (dumb, I know.) and flowed them both to the homies.
Skate faster.
Does this make you the Euro TM of FA/Hockey?
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I tried some OJ's, size 57mm, Gresyon Fletchers Kinda disappointed considering all the GX1000 footy I've seen.
Also, who do I have fight over at FA/Hockey to get them to make an 8.75 or a board with a wheelbase longer than just 14 inches? Tried two of their boards (dumb, I know.) and flowed them both to the homies.
Does this make you the Euro TM of FA/Hockey?
Maybe, haha. Plus 4-5 aggro kicks couldn't smooth them out, at least on asphalt. Maybe I'll try another batch in the future.
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I bought a Scumco off of Tactics, not really worrying about the wb or concave, but I can say wholeheartedly that this is the worst shape I've ever skated. 8.5, 14" wb, SUPER FLAT, weird flat nose. It's fucked up and it's going in the recycling bin after 2 sessions.
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lemme get a pin for that recycling bin
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I bought a Scumco off of Tactics, not really worrying about the wb or concave, but I can say wholeheartedly that this is the worst shape I've ever skated. 8.5, 14" wb, SUPER FLAT, weird flat nose. It's fucked up and it's going in the recycling bin after 2 sessions.
Sell it or send it to ungzilla in exchange for shipping costs.
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I bought a Scumco off of Tactics, not really worrying about the wb or concave, but I can say wholeheartedly that this is the worst shape I've ever skated. 8.5, 14" wb, SUPER FLAT, weird flat nose. It's fucked up and it's going in the recycling bin after 2 sessions.
Is Scumco pennswood? If so I think I've skated the same shape before. Was not a fan either, wayyyyy too short for me, as I usually skate 8.5 or 8.62 dlx boards with 14.5+ wheelbases. Got used to it after a few skates though, and it was actually kinda good for some tricks, can see it being good for really short people who like a wide board.
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I bought a Scumco off of Tactics, not really worrying about the wb or concave, but I can say wholeheartedly that this is the worst shape I've ever skated. 8.5, 14" wb, SUPER FLAT, weird flat nose. It's fucked up and it's going in the recycling bin after 2 sessions.
Is Scumco pennswood? If so I think I've skated the same shape before. Was not a fan either, wayyyyy too short for me, as I usually skate 8.5 or 8.62 dlx boards with 14.5+ wheelbases. Got used to it after a few skates though, and it was actually kinda good for some tricks, can see it being good for really short people who like a wide board.
Yea it's Pennswood. It's this one.
http://www.scumcoandsons.com/merch/kyle-nicholson-perfect-pour-xz6aj-nkerr
Fucking boo boo, choad of a deck. Going to leave it Roosevelt park tomorrow if it's not raining in the morning, go get it.
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may have dodged the bullet on that one it seems ... was eyeing a few of them up before I got my northern co.
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I can't do pennswood. I tried one from a local company and it just felt weird
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I can't do pennswood. I tried one from a local company and it just felt weird
Feels like skating a baseball bat
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never had a problem skating Pennswood (i.e. ScumCo)
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Pennswood is great, a lot of scumco decks are stubby (short, fat, n flat)
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I can't do pennswood. I tried one from a local company and it just felt weird
Feels like skating a baseball bat
wasn't zooyork pennswood a few years back ? had one and hated it, felt like a dead wood baseball bat too, or a shelf more precisely in my case
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I can't do pennswood. I tried one from a local company and it just felt weird
Feels like skating a baseball bat
is there a difference in how they make their boards? it seems like the wood is really soft and mashes easily. the last 3 boards i've ridden were scumco
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Bring this thread up again.
Tried a Welcome Big Bunyip for a few weeks and man did that deck disappoint. Got soggy super fast and flattened out big after the first week of light skating. Are all PS decks like this or is this just another one of their QA issues?
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I really wanted to like Ace trucks but couldn't jibe with them. Bought the redesigned 44's last year. Tried running the stock bushings, Krux bushings, and recently got the new bushings that they use in their Classic's, and they are just too loose for me. In Michigan we had what seemed like a 6 month long winter, and I gained some beer gut weight/didn't skate all winter, and the turning was too gnarly for me. I went back to some older Indy Ti 149's and immediately felt more comfortable. I enjoy skating the newish Thunder 149's and imagine I'd like the 148's too, but think I'll just stick with Indy from here on out.
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wafflecup
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^I wanted to like the Gilbert Crockett 2s so bad. I got a pair for $15 at the outlet but just couldn’t deal with them. Felt so stiff and thin. Sold em to the homie for what I paid.
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Vans Kyle Walker
Toe box is way too narrow and given the construction they don't see to mush out; Heel support was on point tho. Funny, I went with these over the crocketts as they were even narrower.
Anyone want a slightly used pair of Black (red stripe) US10 on the cheap?
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I’m wearing the quasi GC2s right now and I pretty much hate them. Sole feels like a brick but thin, and the whole shoe just feels off. I was planning on breaking them in and skating them but I cruised around the neighborhood a bit and they’re just awful.
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92a Ricta Clouds. They felt harder then 92a and wouldn't slide. SF Bigheads. Felt like chalk and wore quickly.
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I’m wearing the quasi GC2s right now and I pretty much hate them. Sole feels like a brick but thin, and the whole shoe just feels off. I was planning on breaking them in and skating them but I cruised around the neighborhood a bit and they’re just awful.
What?
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Absolutely hate my adidas superstar vulc. Feels like skating on stilts and so much much heel slip despite being my size. I'll keep them to wear around but I don't understand how people skate that shoe.
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Absolutely hate my adidas superstar vulc. Feels like skating on stilts and so much much heel slip despite being my size. I'll keep them to wear around but I don't understand how people skate that shoe.
I had the same experience with this shoe, and I feel like most people don't favor the adiprene insole for those reasons. I really wanted to like that shoe, but it doesn't even seem skateable. Don't understand how people are skating in it so well...
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What?
Vans x Quasi Gilbert Crockett 2
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Absolutely hate my adidas superstar vulc. Feels like skating on stilts and so much much heel slip despite being my size. I'll keep them to wear around but I don't understand how people skate that shoe.
I had a pair that I just finished skating. I had to remove that insole and replace it with a pair of state stock insoles. The shoe skated amazingly after that.
To add to the list, Straye's felt like a Payless shoe. One of the worst shoes I have ever worn hands down. The shoe felt clunky and poorly constructed. My feet felt awful the two sessions I skated them. Ended up giving them away.
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Huf shoes. Had the original black and white Huppers when they first came out in like 2011, felt awful, super super thick. Tried them again around 2014 hoping they'd work their shit out, still awful. I see some designs that I like but I can't get past it.
More controversially: I don't think that the formula fours were all that great. They felt like regular spits to me, which isn't a bad thing, just not as great as they were originally hyped as being.
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Vans x Quasi Gilbert Crockett 2
The whole sole fell through on my buddy's and it was his third session in them. His shoe was talking. Granted this was after over six hours of skating during this one session.
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Thunder trucks with forged baseplates (haven’t tried cast). They just feel dead like it takes more effort to pop off the ground. For some reason to me they feel like they are great if you only have to turn slightly side to side but they bottom out too fast, carving back and forth the path they create is a sin wave but Indy’s allow you to create the same sin wave with sacrificing maybe a slightly longer period but twice the amplitude to work with. You sacrifice a lot of amplitude for a tiny decrease in period running thunders, that loss of precision can probably be accounted for in your brain and muscles but you can’t stop the trucks from bottoming out. Really noticed it when switching back and forth.
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busenitz ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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I’m wearing the quasi GC2s right now and I pretty much hate them. Sole feels like a brick but thin, and the whole shoe just feels off. I was planning on breaking them in and skating them but I cruised around the neighborhood a bit and they’re just awful.
Currently skating a pair of Crockett 2's and agree with whats being said here about them. The upper on them sucks too. Not a big flip trick guy, but the upper on these things was already starting to go from a few heel flips. Ollie area is already busting a hole, because they put one of the major seams/stitching areas right there and only used a single stitch. Also the back heel of the sole is essentially just a large brick of thick ass hard rubber, and even rocking with FP insoles, will cause you're heels to feel sore after a long session.
Skated a pair of Walker Pro's before these, and those I did like. My only issues with he walkers was the the sole was slippery out of the box and took a while before they actually started to grip my board. Heel and ankle support on those was great once I swapped insoles. Almost rolled my ankle because of the stock ones a couple times on flat.
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currently skating the crockets 2, and had to make some adjustments, tongue was so thin and i hurt my front foot badly by crashing the board on it, had to double it with some superglued old romeros today, and lurnarlon instead of the brick heel thin toes supercush insole, and superglued all the exposed stitchings, of course, and now they're good, but almost dead
(https://s9.postimg.cc/mid3byo6z/DSC00918.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/mid3byo6z/)
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I am also skating the Gilbert 2s and I like mine.
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Any ps-stix board with the bigass square nose and the small round tail. I understand that it's the trendy shape right now and I'm supposed to like it but fuck me I can't skate those things. Same goes for the deluxe full shapes, the noses feel so weird for nollie tricks, and there's so much nose to flick off of I can't seem to get it right.
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I am also skating the Gilbert 2s and I like mine.
I like them too, with a superglue tube near my hand
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(https://img.skatewarehouse.com/watermark/rs360.php?pcode=EMG6MA&imgnum=2&nw=600)
Love how they look but they were so uncomfortable, the g6 felt so stiff and I ended stitching them because the toebox detached from the outsole.
Anyone want a slightly used pair of Black (red stripe) US10 on the cheap?
If you ship them outside US i'll buy them
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Any ps-stix board with the bigass square nose and the small round tail. I understand that it's the trendy shape right now and I'm supposed to like it but fuck me I can't skate those things. Same goes for the deluxe full shapes, the noses feel so weird for nollie tricks, and there's so much nose to flick off of I can't seem to get it right.
Sounds like the PlanB shapes. The Quasi that is made like this is quite nice, as is the WKND one, if a tad too short.
DLX fulls (not the SEs) are a weird weird thing, they are too big in the nose and WB for me. But then again, I am not a long nose person, never have been, 6.5+ not nothing 7" feels too disproportion to me.
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Huf classic HI's. The rubber toecap was horrible, felt like clown shoes. The shoe looked cheaply made and there was a lot of heel slipping for a mid top shoe..
Adidas shoes just don't fit my feet..
Had an alltimers board last summer and the shape was great but the board went soggy in four hours of skating..
Almost any other bearings other than the made by bones ones..
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Theeve trucks- couldn't get em at the right tightness and the fact that they came with the bones bushings at the time really didnt make me feel anything else would work cause i was all about those back then
eS/sheep shoes keswick - just like any other thin/vulcanized shoe they didn't work for me so i just used em to chill in
nike sb koston 3 - i really liked how they fit and the support they had but i couldn't get my kickflips for shit, the shape of the toe really threw me off for any flip tricks but otherwise was a good feeling shoe
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Adidas Stan Smith vulc and Huf Hufnagel 2
Stan smiths hurt walking let alone skating
Huf 2 was slippery and "unresponsive"
Krux aren't all they are cracked up to be either
Interesting. I loved my Stan smith vulcs. They weren't the longest lasting shoe though. I am 4 days in on some krux and don't like them at all.
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You’re in the minority on those stan smiths Ben, those things were like some of torture device just to walk around in. You must have some magical shaped foot but hey, more power to you if you can wear them!
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I have an odd shaped foot I think. I have high arches and a pretty skinny foot. The only thing that bothered me at first was the back of the shoe was high and stiff at first.
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I think I talked about it in another thread, but I got the Emerica Wino G6 slip ons that they were pushing super hard and was pretty disappointed. My expectations weren't that high given they're just a slip on, but the elastic band that gives it what little support they need blew out in like a week. I can still wear them and maybe even cruise, but I tried to keep skating them and I just kept feeling like I was gonna break my ankle. I dunno if that band weakening is a problem with slip ons in general because I see people skate the Vans slip ons very frequently, but it seems like a super big design oversight.
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I bought a pair of canvas Janoski's. They started to blow out in the toe in two sessions and had no flick at all. It's the first pair of shoes I have had to shoe goo in 20 years. The plus side is the flick got better with the shoe goo. But otherwise they were a horrible buy. They should come with a little tube of shoe goo because they are otherwise useless.
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I bought a pair of canvas Janoski's. They started to blow out in the toe in two sessions and had no flick at all. It's the first pair of shoes I have had to shoe goo in 20 years. The plus side is the flick got better with the shoe goo. But otherwise they were a horrible buy. They should come with a little tube of shoe goo because they are otherwise useless.
I wonder why...
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Bones mediums. I bought Titan Ti lites, Furys, the original Tensors, even a Lib Tech board back in the day and none of those things were as much of a letdown. Maybe I'm weird, but the $5 Indy aftermarket cylinders are so much better.
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I bought a pair of canvas Janoski's. They started to blow out in the toe in two sessions and had no flick at all. It's the first pair of shoes I have had to shoe goo in 20 years. The plus side is the flick got better with the shoe goo. But otherwise they were a horrible buy. They should come with a little tube of shoe goo because they are otherwise useless.
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not that strange really, there's some good shoes out there in canvas that are designed well enough to not rip in a two sessions.
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Spitfire wheels, I've flatspotted every set even F4s. FP insoles, I've tried regular kingfoam and the game changer orthotics my feet hurt after less than 2 hours and all I skate are ledges under 14in. Super disappointed after all the hype.
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Spitfire wheels, I've flatspotted every set even F4s. FP insoles, I've tried regular kingfoam and the game changer orthotics my feet hurt after less than 2 hours and all I skate are ledges under 14in. Super disappointed after all the hype.
That might come down to the shoes you're wearing then. I was having the same issue, went to the doc and my dumbass found out that I got wide feet. Doc noticed my shoes and pointed out all the issues with them. Switched my shoes to something with a wider toebox and was solid and could really feel the insoles providing more support on my feet. It actually feels like I'm not getting enough support in my non skate shoes now.
Make sure you're buying the right size and pay attention to materials. Just because something is snug means that it's good. And depending on the material, the thought that "Oh, it'll stretch/break-in..." might not apply.
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Spitfire wheels, I've flatspotted every set even F4s. FP insoles, I've tried regular kingfoam and the game changer orthotics my feet hurt after less than 2 hours and all I skate are ledges under 14in. Super disappointed after all the hype.
That might come down to the shoes you're wearing then. I was having the same issue, went to the doc and my dumbass found out that I got wide feet. Doc noticed my shoes and pointed out all the issues with them. Switched my shoes to something with a wider toebox and was solid and could really feel the insoles providing more support on my feet. It actually feels like I'm not getting enough support in my non skate shoes now.
Make sure you're buying the right size and pay attention to materials. Just because something is snug means that it's good. And depending on the material, the thought that "Oh, it'll stretch/break-in..." might not apply.
Same thing happened to me, wearing narrow ass cons with fp felt good for a while but switching over to emerica laced, which seem like an inch wider just from looking down, really solved my foot issues
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Actually a lot of stuff:
Converse classic leather, every vans I skated sk8 hi, Kyle walker and classics...both brands are too thin.
Forged baseplates in general, they're too stiff and for rough grounds are a big no no, I had thunder 147 lights.
Tensor mag light, they're not durable at all too fragile.
Krux trucks are too damn hi and I couldn't make them turn like I want.
Oj 101a ez edge, they wear too fast.
Oj 99a insanethane hardline, they don't slide, no matter what.
Pointy and short noses and tails.
Real full's humongous wb.
Andale bearings and bones reds, I broke them too easily.
Jessup, too slippery.
Philips bolts.
I think that's enough hahahaha
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huf classics, the bottom of the sole is so flat so it has no grip at all. I ended up breaking my arm while skating with them
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Actually a lot of stuff:
Converse classic leather, every vans I skated sk8 hi, Kyle walker and classics...both brands are too thin.
Forged baseplates in general, they're too stiff and for rough grounds are a big no no, I had thunder 147 lights.
Tensor mag light, they're not durable at all too fragile.
Krux trucks are too damn hi and I couldn't make them turn like I want.
Oj 101a ez edge, they wear too fast.
Oj 99a insanethane hardline, they don't slide, no matter what.
Pointy and short noses and tails.
Real full's humongous wb.
Andale bearings and bones reds, I broke them too easily.
Jessup, too slippery.
Philips bolts.
I think that's enough hahahaha
For real, I was shocked for how many people prefer Jessup over Mob when here was some griptape-poll going on...
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I'm pretty sure I am not going to like the new Quasi I just setup (didn't get a chance to skate it yet). It's not rounded and not square or full, but sort of this odd narrow yet old school football nose (but modern) and with a great tail.
Couldn't tell until after I gripped it.
As for the Jessup comment, I find that colored jessup is a different grip than black as if feels more like black magic.
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I prefer Jessup....I don't like it less grippy...
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I prefer Jessup....I don't like it less grippy...
I got used to Jessup after riding MOB M80 for a while, just about everything is 'average' after you skate regular mob for a while.
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I'm pretty sure I am not going to like the new Quasi I just setup (didn't get a chance to skate it yet). It's not rounded and not square or full, but sort of this odd narrow yet old school football nose (but modern) and with a great tail.
Couldn't tell until after I gripped it.
As for the Jessup comment, I find that colored jessup is a different grip than black as if feels more like black magic.
I just set up a quasi too there were two shapes I was looking at that were 8.25 one was a more squared one on the tyler bledsoe graphic ( what I ended up going with) and two that sound like what you bought one was the skull crockett graphic and the other was like this motocross looking one
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I'm pretty sure I am not going to like the new Quasi I just setup (didn't get a chance to skate it yet). It's not rounded and not square or full, but sort of this odd narrow yet old school football nose (but modern) and with a great tail.
Couldn't tell until after I gripped it.
As for the Jessup comment, I find that colored jessup is a different grip than black as if feels more like black magic.
I just set up a quasi too there were two shapes I was looking at that were 8.25 one was a more squared one on the tyler bledsoe graphic ( what I ended up going with) and two that sound like what you bought one was the skull crockett graphic and the other was like this motocross looking one
Correct!
I've ridden the squared 8.25 and really enjoyed it, tho it felt a bit cramped (short/short WB) so I went with the other one, the longer/longer WB of the two knowing it wasn't square but hoping it was just sort of 'normal' in the nose as the rest of the dimensions are great (I'm always after 14.3x wheelbases) but it's not; like I mentioned it's your generically normal rounded or squareish nose but some in-between abomination:
GIANT pic doesn't really showcase what I mean.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ap5V1pHpjEZ8cOi-596aXz7-dz52WO-havoc6koUc1cREyCzsCYweFSpuStWqUsTfJzR1mNbN2CuYeOZCmgcnCnb_o6hxYl6frpdf8KYTkNStGWUp4q9AitVSap7D-Ev7vA7_Dl77kE=w2400)
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here you go playa, what is the length on this? looks fun!
(https://image.ibb.co/hK2HDy/IMG_20180512_103149.jpg)
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32.35" or something like that, totally not my style of shape tho...i'm tempted to give it a few skates but I'm already not feeling.
Thanks for the resize!
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What's up with that grip? Looks like the cheap painted walls every rent apartment has over here. Doesn't look grippy at all. 😮
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the fuck would you ever buy bearings that aren't Bones? are you stupid?
Truth
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My buddy gave me a couple sets of Rictas that keep flat spotting. Glad I didn't pay for em. I'll stick to good ol' bones SPFs.
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Spitfire wheels, I've flatspotted every set even F4s. FP insoles, I've tried regular kingfoam and the game changer orthotics my feet hurt after less than 2 hours and all I skate are ledges under 14in. Super disappointed after all the hype.
That might come down to the shoes you're wearing then. I was having the same issue, went to the doc and my dumbass found out that I got wide feet. Doc noticed my shoes and pointed out all the issues with them. Switched my shoes to something with a wider toebox and was solid and could really feel the insoles providing more support on my feet. It actually feels like I'm not getting enough support in my non skate shoes now.
Make sure you're buying the right size and pay attention to materials. Just because something is snug means that it's good. And depending on the material, the thought that "Oh, it'll stretch/break-in..." might not apply.
Same thing happened to me, wearing narrow ass cons with fp felt good for a while but switching over to emerica laced, which seem like an inch wider just from looking down, really solved my foot issues
I don't think the shoes were the issue, with the first pair maybe, I had them I. Vans slip on pros and Gilbert 2s then I broke my leg and swore off vans. Now I had them in New Balance 868s and they were better but still got a lot of pain. The pain I had wasn't from tight shoes, it was lack of support/protection. I have shin splints caused by bad arch support and the FP orthotics didn't help at all. Bought a pair of orthodics from a medical store and they are amazing still not 100% pain free but getting there. From what everyone says about FP your supposed to be able to huck huge shit with them, I was dying skating my local DIY (all ledges under 15in or so)