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Skateboarding => Skate Questions => Topic started by: HHH on May 27, 2018, 03:46:49 PM
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Sometimes I fuck up tricks more as I try to land them faster to save the hassle for the filmer. However otherwise I would land stuff good.
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a lot worse because then I start actually focusing on something specific, and start calculating small details a lot more (all the while being aware that noone gives a shit and it's absurd to do it, which makes everything even worse sometimes if you can't reason yourself). when I'm not filming, pretty much all my everyday skating consists in successions of lines where I improvise trick after trick depending on whatever feels comfortable next. but whenever a camera's out, I feel like I actually have to try something more definite, my mind sinks down a vortex and in the end, I often end up settling for the same safe tricks I know I can, but normally don't even really do, restricting most leeway when it comes to spontaneity and eventually the clip is a lot less representative of my skating than I wish it could be. some my favorite clips of myself (yes) are the ones where I never realized I was being filmed, or random stuff I just did in between other people's takes or going with the flow of the session. as soon as you're being documented and you know it, staying natural becomes a mental struggle. developing the ability of breaking free from your own self-expectations in order to get footage that actually looks like you is the ultimate challenge. I have a lot of respect for people who you can tell on footage skate just the same in real life, when the clips feel like they were captured on the fly because they probably were.
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Lines: Yes.
Gap/Stair/Handrail- No.
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I think the concept is similar to the double slit experiment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment)
things act differently when observed....
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sometimes yes. i'll skate a little faster without noticing and it fucks me up
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Camera Curse
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Much worse....I never grew up filming...
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if you drink beer, you totally forget about the camera
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not really
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I find it annoying that as a filmer I start to think whoever is filming me is getting impatient filming me (most probably) and I start to then skate worse.
Weird brain fuckery.
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I’m in the middle of filming my skater trainer sponsor me tape; most days the camera doesn’t get to me but if I’m getting stressed, it starts to mess with my head.
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they don't call it the bail gun for nothing
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Lines: Yes.
Gap/Stair/Handrail- No.
This. I start thinking that I'm wasting everyone's time(prob true) and I start getting pissed. This can be advantageous on big single tricks but turns to a shit show for a line.
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it's the bail gun but it does bring out the best. so yes and ultimately no. then what you film this yr will be what you do chilling next yr.
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Always. I end up trying shit for 3 hours and usually don't get it. I kinda hate filming.
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it takes out some fun but the ego of filming a trick will make you better, give you standards.
it's a slippery slope though to taking fun out of the game.
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No one ever films me (for good reason) but I actually think it helps. I don't want to waste anyone's time or batteries so I think I make more of an effort to land shit quickly. Or eat major shit.
Also, when there are cute girls taking "romance of decay" photos at the skatepark for their intro college class, it's fucking showtime.
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It really only happens wehn I'm doin a line. I can think of so many moments when I was doing a line over and over on a spot waiting for the filmer, and when he got there and started filming I couldn't even come close to the first trick without bailing it and loosing my mind.
With single tricks it's usually different, cause most of the time you try shit you've never done before (or not as frequent)
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the good ol' bail gun . ive come to the realization if i am going to be filmed the filmer better do it in the first hour and its on a get what you get type deal. otherwise i get tired upset or shit just doesnt work because im worrying about it too much . if you film it rad if you dont its okay .
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they don't call it the bail gun for nothing
The pressure is off when I'm self filming.
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i skate worse when i'm getting filmed. but i also skate worse when i am not getting filmed
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you start to feel bad for the filmer, so you start thinking about that and stop focusing (as much) on the trick or line
one more try bro
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I skate better because I hate filming and I just want it to end. "Just stop filming" might be the reaction from some, but the desire to document what little skills I have is greater than the desire to end filming stress. Unfortunately it's made my standards for filmed tricks pretty low.
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Depends on the day, sometimes when i know the camera is out im scared of wasting time and footage so ill actually push myself to commit. Other times when i get close to landing whatever im trying, ill get all hyped which slowly turns to frustration and i know the cameras rolling so the pressure makes me buckle
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you start to feel bad for the filmer, so you start thinking about that and stop focusing (as much) on the trick or line
that's such a classic downwards spiral. honestly, whenever somebody is filming me I can't help but feel like a giant piece of shit for wasting that person's time as soon as the trick is taking me more than ten tries (they often do). I film the people who film me a lot too, so the relationship really remains fair for the most part but the situation in itself is weird when you think about it, you're basically turning another human being into some kind of tripod for a little while. I always make sure the person filming enjoys it (and keeps enjoying it throughout the process), when they're a creative type and I know they're actually having fun and putting their heart into trying to compose something and make the footage look good, it is a lot more reassuring than if they're giving you clear signals that they really wish they should be doing something else instead (that's when it's time to stop and you probably won't be making your trick anyway as nothing cool usually stems from bad vibes).
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you start to feel bad for the filmer, so you start thinking about that and stop focusing (as much) on the trick or line
that's such a classic downwards spiral. honestly, whenever somebody is filming me I can't help but feel like a giant piece of shit for wasting that person's time as soon as the trick is taking me more than ten tries (they often do). I film the people who film me a lot too, so the relationship really remains fair for the most part but the situation in itself is weird when you think about it, you're basically turning another human being into some kind of tripod for a little while. I always make sure the person filming enjoys it (and keeps enjoying it throughout the process), when they're a creative type and I know they're actually having fun and putting their heart into trying to compose something and make the footage look good, it is a lot more reassuring than if they're giving you clear signals that they really wish they should be doing something else instead (that's when it's time to stop and you probably won't be making your trick anyway as nothing cool usually stems from bad vibes).
Same, good way to approach it. Whenever I film someone, I always try to show that I'm really totally fine with filming them lol, and that I know it might take a while
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I think I ultimately skate better on film. When filming it's easy to perceive that I'm skating worse if I'm struggling but in reality I'm just skating harder/holding myself to a higher standard since someone might see it later. It can be tough mentally but for me I know I'll push myself more to try and sometimes land harder tricks than I would have without filming. Feeling bad for the person filming is real sometimes, but if they're hyped and your relationship is fair that helps a lot.
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the camera adds
10 100 lbs tries
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Absolutely. I get very self conscious. Trick I think look clean end up looking way ugly on film.
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I havent been filmed while skating becose i dont really skate but when ride my bmx and someone films me yeah i ride worse. Same for videogames. I do something epic then get someone to see it and i cant do it. When they leave i always succeed
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>:(
yeah I never had anyone film with me if I did it was deleted shortly thereafter, as I am humble enough to say I'm not that great to film.
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a lot worse because then I start actually focusing on something specific, and start calculating small details a lot more (all the while being aware that noone gives a shit and it's absurd to do it, which makes everything even worse sometimes if you can't reason yourself). when I'm not filming, pretty much all my everyday skating consists in successions of lines where I improvise trick after trick depending on whatever feels comfortable next. but whenever a camera's out, I feel like I actually have to try something more definite, my mind sinks down a vortex and in the end, I often end up settling for the same safe tricks I know I can, but normally don't even really do, restricting most leeway when it comes to spontaneity and eventually the clip is a lot less representative of my skating than I wish it could be. some my favorite clips of myself (yes) are the ones where I never realized I was being filmed, or random stuff I just did in between other people's takes or going with the flow of the session. as soon as you're being documented and you know it, staying natural becomes a mental struggle. developing the ability of breaking free from your own self-expectations in order to get footage that actually looks like you is the ultimate challenge. I have a lot of respect for people who you can tell on footage skate just the same in real life, when the clips feel like they were captured on the fly because they probably were.
I can relate to this a lot, although I think my main problem is that I play it too safe when filming because I don't have the patience to try things for very long. Most of my best tricks were never filmed, they just happened during a regular session and I never got around to filming them because I don't have the same luck when I plan things out. As soon as I think about a trick too much it becomes harder. I also filmed for years and have high standards, so it's really hard to focus on my own skating when I'm worrying about bro-cam. I've had multiple video parts, but never one I was close to happy with.
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Sometimes I fuck up tricks more as I try to land them faster to save the hassle for the filmer. However otherwise I would land stuff good.
Hell yeah I hate being filmed but love it at the same time.
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remember the first time you saw yourself skating on camera? such a bummer
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remember the first time you saw yourself skating on camera? such a bummer
I'll never forget the moment my friend helpfully pointed out to me that I do a slight wrist extension before popping a trick, every single time.
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No, unless I'm under pressure like I have only a few tries before getting kicked out or battery about to die...some people do better under pressure though