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USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER / Re: Skateboarding's Biggest Inside Joke
« Last post by Tabletop on November 30, 2021, 11:30:30 PM »
It looks cool, thatís it

Was a trend in the Bob Shirt era.
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USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER / Re: Thoughts on NHS
« Last post by Hyliannightmare on November 30, 2021, 11:23:12 PM »
Indys are good, they are still good. Anyone who says otherwise is crazy

Till the end
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USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER / Re: Thoughts on NHS
« Last post by Ghost Face on November 30, 2021, 11:16:53 PM »
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. (are even Thunder and Venture raws still at Ermico / SF / USA?)
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Yes they are
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Can you prove that?
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Trust me, you can trust @mattdlx.
Can also personally verify that hangers  & cast plates are poured at Ermico in SF, at least as of a couple weeks ago.
Pointech side of the building was humming too.
Iím glad we could straighten that out.
Your PAL,
-Louis Struxworth III
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Are they titanium hangers made in America or are those trucks assembled "of foreign and domestic components"?
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Excellent question, to which I say ďI have no idea.Ē
I donít know enough about the process to be able to tell what metal is which in the fab process.  Iím not swift with the metallurgy, and I donít know that I could tell a Ti axle from a steel one at any distance, either.
In other words, I donít know what I was seeing, beyond clearly being able to see trucks in various stages of fabrication.
For THAT specific data point that you asked about @manysnakes, perhaps we can turn to the aforementioned PAL, @mattdlx, for the answer.
As I said in the exchange quoted above, you can believe the brother on the matter.
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For sure, I am not doubting it. I just remember that it was the titanium hangers which originally took Independent to China, so I assume it's something that's beyond the capacity of Ermico to produce. I've worked in heavy manufacturing, so really I am just curious about the details.
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the hangar is not titanium, the axel is. im assuming all hangars get poured at ermico around what ever axel they want. can @mattdlx explain why the trucks dont say "made in USA". if its such a big selling point for the two brands why doesnt it say where they are made? I heard that Pointech was moved to Mexico and some of the classics formula wheels say made in Mexico on them. I think Ermico just makes the F4s. Ermico should be boastful that they are manufacturing skate stuff in USA, not many other skate brands can make that claim.
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Yes, Thunder/Venture Titaniums are a US-poured hanger around a Chinese Titanium axle. I believe the forged baseplates are also imports.

Pointech not completely moved to Mexico, but demand has exceeded the 17th st capacity, so many/most Spits are being poured south of the border.

As to not saying ďmade in USAĒ: my understanding is that roughly 15-20 years back, some legislation went through where you couldnít say ďMade in USAĒ unless it was 100% US components. Washers/axle nuts/misc parts made it so they would have to say ďMade in USA from domestic and imported componentsĒ which is a lot to stamp on a baseplate.

Thanks for this answer. I'd gnar if I could.
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USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER / Re: Thoughts on NHS
« Last post by Ghost Face on November 30, 2021, 11:14:19 PM »
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. (are even Thunder and Venture raws still at Ermico / SF / USA?)
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Yes they are
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Can you prove that?
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Trust me, you can trust @mattdlx.
Can also personally verify that hangers  & cast plates are poured at Ermico in SF, at least as of a couple weeks ago.
Pointech side of the building was humming too.
Iím glad we could straighten that out.
Your PAL,
-Louis Struxworth III
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Are they titanium hangers made in America or are those trucks assembled "of foreign and domestic components"?
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Excellent question, to which I say ďI have no idea.Ē
I donít know enough about the process to be able to tell what metal is which in the fab process.  Iím not swift with the metallurgy, and I donít know that I could tell a Ti axle from a steel one at any distance, either.
In other words, I donít know what I was seeing, beyond clearly being able to see trucks in various stages of fabrication.
For THAT specific data point that you asked about @manysnakes, perhaps we can turn to the aforementioned PAL, @mattdlx, for the answer.
As I said in the exchange quoted above, you can believe the brother on the matter.
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For sure, I am not doubting it. I just remember that it was the titanium hangers which originally took Independent to China, so I assume it's something that's beyond the capacity of Ermico to produce. I've worked in heavy manufacturing, so really I am just curious about the details.
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the hangar is not titanium, the axel is. im assuming all hangars get poured at ermico around what ever axel they want. can @mattdlx explain why the trucks dont say "made in USA". if its such a big selling point for the two brands why doesnt it say where they are made? I heard that Pointech was moved to Mexico and some of the classics formula wheels say made in Mexico on them. I think Ermico just makes the F4s. Ermico should be boastful that they are manufacturing skate stuff in USA, not many other skate brands can make that claim.

This baffles me too. Nowhere on the trucks or even the website says anything. Why not be loud and proud of the USA production. Is it that only a certain amount of the range (plain Raws?) are made in the USA and that highlights that the rest aren't? What's the deal?
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WHATEVER / Re: No - Nut November
« Last post by HE$HLORD on November 30, 2021, 10:52:10 PM »
I BET 20$ I NUTTED 3 TIMES

RIGHT ON BROTHER
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Shoes & Gear / Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Last post by zozu on November 30, 2021, 10:51:48 PM »
DM'd about my order from a few weeks ago and the response was basically "idk should be there soon" lol
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USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER / Re: Thoughts on NHS
« Last post by Xen on November 30, 2021, 10:48:08 PM »
Indy
Oj elites
Creature
MOB
VX decks / obscure dims / stumps or boats
Bronson ceramics
You can count on deck dimensions board after board unlike some companies….boards are just the right range of stiff and poppy


They still support dressen.

Strong overseas programs for riders compared to a lot of bigger companies.

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USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER / Re: Thoughts on NHS
« Last post by irunknee on November 30, 2021, 10:39:58 PM »

take their entire production for every product they offer and move it overseas. What integrity and craftsmanship do you have left at that point? None. NHS is dead and has been for a long time. I've been on Ace's for years

My dude, what? Ace has been outsourced their entire life. They were a rehash of stage 4's too. Everything you're saying applies to Ace even more.

Although I agree with you about NHS.
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Shoes & Gear / Re: Post UPCOMING/RECENT shoe releases thread
« Last post by Gray Imp Sausage Metal on November 30, 2021, 10:36:12 PM »
That new AVE is really fucking interesting!  :o
Love to see brands pushing
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That new AVE is really fucking interesting!  :o
Love to see brands pushing material innovation like that. That kind of TPU filament can be surprisingly strong, and work in really interesting ways when heat pressed with different base materials. I definitely think the durability will be surprisingly good!

Just kinda hate that weirdly shaped leather collar that had no reason to be in this shoe. As someone pointed out, such a dumb way to take it away from being Vegan-friendly.  ::)
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Just kinda hate that weirdly shaped leather collar that had no reason to be in this shoe. As someone pointed out, such a dumb way to take it away from being Vegan-friendly.  ::)
@Sk.A.T.A.N gets it!
Will try and bug them on insta to see if I can get the lowdown on whether that collar is synth or not!
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EVENTS/CLASSIFIEDS / Re: For Sale: Over $500 in trucks + Wheels
« Last post by Xen on November 30, 2021, 10:34:42 PM »
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Is this the same post from a few years back? =D
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Hahahaha

Itís the same post as last year and the same post as next year

I feel you. Iím sitting on a few sets of trucks Iíll never ride again, some new, some used. And Iím set with wheelsÖ

But Iíve learned my lesson : keep the ti, and a pair of 144/148/149s around for when the madness grabs you, that and bones Stf v5 work for everything.
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