Bobby Puleo's conspiracy theories explained

[stets]

I think you can honestly cool it on playing devils advocate for the Holocaust deniers, just so you don’t look like you’re sympathizing with the Holocaust deniers. Good rule of thumb.

@Allen. you know how it is... Edgelords gonna Edgelord...

[Lou Strux]

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He's been posting crazy shit for awhile, but it's ramped up in the last year or so. Recently in comments on some other dude's page (@truthseekernetwork or something like that) he makes a statement that the holocaust didn't happen, that those people didn't die. As a person descendent from great grandparents who died in a concentration camp in 1944, I say that he can go fuck himself.

Bobby is of his rocker.

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i've researched that one a little. i don't think they say nobody died so much as they were internment camps and allied bombing ruined supply chains and inmates were the last to be fed so a lot of them died. also from typhus. it is kind of odd to have doctors in a camp if you're just going to kill everyone and i believe expulsion was the final solution, not extermination. the Red Cross death toll is a lot lower than the one we always hear about. sorry about your GGP's.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dSoSxVwzeKg/VynnsGwLt6I/AAAAAAAAAFQ/2Hh3ps1OKe0o07CqIL-O8OXc2tsFgVO6gCLcB/s1600/the-bizarre-story-of-kristallnacht-643-ns-zionist-medal.jpg

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Yes the I have seen that Facebook post that made the rounds years ago claiming International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) record-keeping showed that *only* about 275k people died at these camps. But here's the thing, those account onlu for those that had death certificates, people who had been tracked through the full system at only 13 camps. I doubt the Nazis did perfect record keeping, and they didn't even bother to register people who were brought in an executed within a day or so if getting to the camp.

Also gas chambers are well documented in captured Nazi correspondence and evidence at the sites. Death was a part of the equation. Of course there were doctors, many of whom were involved in human experimentation. Many more were there to just study, see what it takes to keep people just alive enough for slave labor. If they had doctors who actually followed their Hippocratic Oath, those prisoners that survived wouldn't been so dangerously malnourished and dangerously thin.

If you ever find yourself close enough on a trip to Germany or Poland, visit one of the Concentration Camps... truly a life-changing and emotionally challenging experience. My great grandma and grandpa were exterminated at Dachau, so when I was in Munich I made the somber pilgrimage. Maybe Bobby should visit one sometime as well.

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i've never been but a jewish fellow named david cole went and found that the chimneys were built AFTER the war by the soviets. and the wooden doors that lock from the inside? it was a lot of questionable stuff for the stories we heard. i believe it would be an awful place to be locked up but the stories seem exaggerated for effect [and reparations]. i told you the supply lines were destroyed by allies bombing so if you've got very little food, are you going to eat it or give it to POWs? that would explain the malnourishment.
to Allen, i'm not a denier, i'm an explorer. if you didn't live an experience, you can take someone's word or do your own research.

Bobby lurkin' on SLAP these days, eh?

[ChuckRamone]

DEW YER RESURCH SHEEPLE!

[matty_c]

Don’t think I ever met a Jew but where the fuck did those people all go then, fucken aliens or something?

You seen all those spectacles stacked in a pile at auchwitz that place has got a heavy vibe
That shit happened man

I like to play hypotheticals and shit just for fun but this one is a no go

Man remember those interviews with him where he was super into collecting garbage? I contend he was a meth junkie at that point and what we got here is merely the result of long term meth abuse
Show us ya teeth puleo

Or maybe don’t lad I got bens burgers and I don’t want dinner ruined

[Rasmus]

Great... we got holocaust deniers in here now 

[cucktard]

Great... we got holocaust deniers in here now 

He’s not a ‘denier’, he’s an ‘explorer’

Textbook racist infiltration technique.

Try to pose bullshit, discredited, and racist theories/conspiracies as an ‘unbiased observer’, just looking for the ‘truth’.

[Andy_Roys_Left_Nut]

Whats everbodies favourite Skittle flavour?

[funeral_tuxedo]

Bobby is a great skateboarding talent and I actually think his process of collecting of discarded street trash and framing the items as art rather than ephemera is pretty cool, but as a human I think he's trash.

[matty_c]

What’s the best part about being Bobby puleo?
Two sleeps till Christmas
Fucken crackhead cunt

[cky enthusiast]

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He's been posting crazy shit for awhile, but it's ramped up in the last year or so. Recently in comments on some other dude's page (@truthseekernetwork or something like that) he makes a statement that the holocaust didn't happen, that those people didn't die. As a person descendent from great grandparents who died in a concentration camp in 1944, I say that he can go fuck himself.

Bobby is of his rocker.

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i've researched that one a little. i don't think they say nobody died so much as they were internment camps and allied bombing ruined supply chains and inmates were the last to be fed so a lot of them died. also from typhus. it is kind of odd to have doctors in a camp if you're just going to kill everyone and i believe expulsion was the final solution, not extermination. the Red Cross death toll is a lot lower than the one we always hear about. sorry about your GGP's.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dSoSxVwzeKg/VynnsGwLt6I/AAAAAAAAAFQ/2Hh3ps1OKe0o07CqIL-O8OXc2tsFgVO6gCLcB/s1600/the-bizarre-story-of-kristallnacht-643-ns-zionist-medal.jpg

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Yes the I have seen that Facebook post that made the rounds years ago claiming International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) record-keeping showed that *only* about 275k people died at these camps. But here's the thing, those account onlu for those that had death certificates, people who had been tracked through the full system at only 13 camps. I doubt the Nazis did perfect record keeping, and they didn't even bother to register people who were brought in an executed within a day or so if getting to the camp.

Also gas chambers are well documented in captured Nazi correspondence and evidence at the sites. Death was a part of the equation. Of course there were doctors, many of whom were involved in human experimentation. Many more were there to just study, see what it takes to keep people just alive enough for slave labor. If they had doctors who actually followed their Hippocratic Oath, those prisoners that survived wouldn't been so dangerously malnourished and dangerously thin.

If you ever find yourself close enough on a trip to Germany or Poland, visit one of the Concentration Camps... truly a life-changing and emotionally challenging experience. My great grandma and grandpa were exterminated at Dachau, so when I was in Munich I made the somber pilgrimage. Maybe Bobby should visit one sometime as well.

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i've never been but a jewish fellow named david cole went and found that the chimneys were built AFTER the war by the soviets. and the wooden doors that lock from the inside? it was a lot of questionable stuff for the stories we heard. i believe it would be an awful place to be locked up but the stories seem exaggerated for effect [and reparations]. i told you the supply lines were destroyed by allies bombing so if you've got very little food, are you going to eat it or give it to POWs? that would explain the malnourishment.
to Allen, i'm not a denier, i'm an explorer. if you didn't live an experience, you can take someone's word or do your own research.

you should research what the front grill of a bus looks like at 40mph

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Great... we got holocaust deniers in here now 

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He’s not a ‘denier’, he’s an ‘explorer’

Textbook racist infiltration technique.

Try to pose bullshit, discredited, and racist theories/conspiracies as an ‘unbiased observer’, just looking for the ‘truth’.

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the researcher is a jew, dumb ass. i thought it was settled science too before i looked into it. watch the talk and if you can disprove his points, love to hear it.

The IHR (where Cole gave his speech) is the Institute for Historical Review, a well-known Holocaust denial, anti-Semitic, and neo-Nazi affiliated organization posing under an academic model (weird you didn’t seem to find that in your research). Their main Holocaust denial  points are pretty consistent and common among the people who speak for them and can be addressed here: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/how-to-refute-holocaust-denial. BTW, trying to say that because someone is Jewish, they can’t be a conspiracy nut is idiotic.

Here’s the IHR who just espouse slightly tempered “Protocols of the Elders of Zion” style conspiracy theories and couch their true beliefs in “Holocaust revisionism” which is just a wormy way of Holocaust denial: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_for_Historical_Review https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/institute-historical-review

Here’s a brief fact check about the viral post you mentioned and how it misinterpreted historical accounts: https://fullfact.org/online/holocaust-death-toll/

Another big thing about David Cole (or David Stein as he was known as as his Holocaust denial beliefs made him toxic for Conservatives to be around) is I can’t find anything about his credentials. Is he a trained, academic historian who has dedicated his life to studying the Holocaust? Hell, is he even a trained journalist who is aware of the ethical implications of his actions, etc.? I don’t know. So why are we believing him over people who do have those backgrounds who consistently agree on points opposed to him and his ilk? They too have sources they can cite but just because Cole does doesn’t mean he’s using them properly - a common mistake among “explorers.”

Here’s some more refutation: https://u.osu.edu/vanzandt/2019/02/

In conclusion, you’re quite bad at actual research if you do believe Cole and the IHR.

Here’s a site all about providing evidence and refuting denial claims: https://www.hdot.org/

But also yeah, what cky enthusiast said too.

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also worthwhile to read: https://ohpi.org.au/holocaust-denial-david-cole-and-codoh/

[matty_c]

This is also worth a watch

[Jean-Ralphio Zaperstein]

Also worth a watch

[BALARGUE]

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Great... we got holocaust deniers in here now 

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He’s not a ‘denier’, he’s an ‘explorer’

Textbook racist infiltration technique.

Try to pose bullshit, discredited, and racist theories/conspiracies as an ‘unbiased observer’, just looking for the ‘truth’.

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the researcher is a jew, dumb ass. i thought it was settled science too before i looked into it. watch the talk and if you can disprove his points, love to hear it.

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The IHR (where Cole gave his speech) is the Institute for Historical Review, a well-known Holocaust denial, anti-Semitic, and now-Nazi organization posing under an academic model (weird you didn’t seem to find that in your research). Their main Holocaust denial  points are pretty consistent and common among the people who speak for them and can be addressed here: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/how-to-refute-holocaust-denial. BTW, trying to say that because someone is Jewish, they can’t be a conspiracy nut is idiotic.

Here’s the IHR who just espouse slightly tempered “Protocols of the Elders of Zion” style conspiracy theories and couch their true beliefs in “Holocaust revisionism” which is just a wormy way of Hooocause denial: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_for_Historical_Review https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/institute-historical-review

Here’s a brief fact check about the viral post you mentioned and how it misinterpreted historical accounts: https://fullfact.org/online/holocaust-death-toll/

Another big thing is that David Cole (or David Stein as he was known as as his Holocaust denial beliefs made him toxic for Conservatives to be around), is I can’t find anything about his credentials. Is he a trained, academic historian who has dedicated his life to studying the Holocaust? Hell, is he even a trained journalist who is aware of the ethical implications of his actions, etc.? I don’t know. So why are we believing him over people who do have those backgrounds who consistently agree on points opposed to him and his ilk? They too have sources they can cite but just because Cole does doesn’t mean he’s using them properly - a common mistake among “explorers.”

Here’s some more refutation: https://u.osu.edu/vanzandt/2019/02/

In conclusion, you’re quite bad at actual research if you do believe Cole and the IHR.

Here’s a site all about providing evidence and refuting denial claims: https://www.hdot.org/

But also yeah, what cky enthusiast said too.

thanks for the quick but efficient research

nivek, you are bad at exploring
and nobody needs to hear about your own flawed research

[banksandledges]

At least we solved the mystery of Jordan Trahans no comply.

[Jean-Ralphio Zaperstein]

At least we solved the mystery of Jordan Trahans no comply.

SO @Grind King Rims for doing the math

[Grind King Rims]

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At least we solved the mystery of Jordan Trahans no comply.

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SO @Grind King Rims for doing the math

The Trahan is out there. I want to believe.