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Re: How many of you broke fools ain't got no health insurance?
« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2012, 10:46:04 AM »
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I'm on my parents plan, so I have no worried until I turn 23 next year.

So with this new bill. Am I required to buy health insurance or is this universal health care paid by taxes? I haven't been keeping up with the news lately.
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you're good until 26.

If I remember correctly I wont have a military ID (dependent) once I turn 23. Not sure if I need an ID to be on my parents health care plan, but if it's not until I turn 26 then I'm good.

I haven't been to the doctors in years. I should probably get a full physical.
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Re: How many of you broke fools ain't got no health insurance?
« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2012, 11:45:52 AM »
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i live in canada

free health care makes up for having to live in an igloo
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our shit is not even close to free. its not a perfect system, but it works, and it makes me feel like less of a peice of shit living in a society that takes care of the sick and poor.

Works for now....but the boomers are gonna suck the life out of it along w. Canada pension....

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Re: How many of you broke fools ain't got no health insurance?
« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2012, 01:02:07 PM »
I work a very shitty job in canada and am on the companies extended medical/dental plan. I pay around 600$ a year for some other required type of coverage. I don't know what I'm talking about but paying 600 a year is not a big deal for peace of mind. Probably why I skate huge things with reckless abandon
I;m sure i;m not the only dc/monster/subaru type guy here

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Re: How many of you broke fools ain't got no health insurance?
« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2012, 01:50:41 PM »
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I'm on my parents plan, so I have no worried until I turn 23 next year.

So with this new bill. Am I required to buy health insurance or is this universal health care paid by taxes? I haven't been keeping up with the news lately.
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you're good until 26.

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I don't have health insurance. Haven't been to a doctor's office in over 8 years and don't think we should live in a commie country that forces you to pay for it or be fined.
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Do you have hundreds of thousands of dollars saved away in case you get cancer or some other freak disease that doesn't discriminate based on lifestyle choices?

Also, if you don't buy health insurance because you can't afford it, part of the act is that your insurance will be subsidized, and medicaid will now be available to all people making under a certain amount of money. So even without going to the doctor, you can feel safe knowing that your next medical problem won't financially ruin you. Even with the  housing crisis, the number one cause of bankruptcy in the U.S. is healthcare costs.


I'm really surprised Roberts was the deciding vote. It makes me respect him more. I bet he still doesn't like it, but it seems like he voted based on a principled, Constitutional perspective. Views on what a Constitutional perspective are differ, but he clearly has one defined, and based his vote on that. Fox is flipping their shit about the fact that Roberts called it a tax.
Some people are saying the right will use it against Obama to claim it means he raised taxes, but the thing is, that means Romney did the same thing with his health care act as Governor.

In the end, I'm of the view that this law is not enough, and that there needs to be a complete overhaul of the private insurance system, but this is a positive step, and if it is successful, can be the springboard to something that at least more closely resembles a single payer system.
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I was initially surprised about the Roberts vote but I wonder less the more I've thought about the "legacy" of his court. Bush v. Gore and Citizens United are unarguable partisan decisions that have seriously damaged the validity of the SC. It's been declared that Bush v. Gore was so improper that it cannot be used as a precedent in future rulings. Look at the recent SC reversal of the Montana SC ruling on Citizen's United, reaffirming that corporate person hood and campaign spending does not encourage political corruption,  and it is not difficult to see the malleability of Constitutional interpretation. Of course, this is a step in the right direction, but, was not put in place with the intention of reaching the right end.
Actually, with Bush v. Gore the court themselves said that the ruling couldn't be used as a precedent at the time, one of the many strange things about it. Its actually not a stain on Roberts though, as he was appointed after the ruling while Bush was in office. Citizens United is though, and I feel like there is another big fucked up one that is on his court too that I am forgetting.

To the kid who thought it was until he was 23, you WERE right, but part of the affordable care act is that you stay on your parents plan until you are 26 now. So it helps you out immediately.


To those in other countries talking about taxes and stuff. Ready to hear the fucked up thing? The U.S. spends a LARGER portion of its GDP on healthcare than a vast majority of countries with socialized healthcare. Between health insurance subsidies, dealing with the costs of non-payment at public hospitals, and a bunch of other costs I don't quite understand, it costs the U.S. public more to have a system where they end up having to pay private insurance companies for care in the end on top of it. Our taxes should be higher. To the person saying they pay in the low 20's- so do most Americans, and as far as a top rate of 60%- there isn't any valid reason we don't have that, aside from the fact that rich people control the government and won't tax their own.
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Re: How many of you broke fools ain't got no health insurance?
« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2012, 02:06:18 PM »
I have not had health insurance in 4 years, I broke my hand a few months ago and just dealt with it, now I have a strange bump where I am guessing it didn't heal right, but I got my freedom in the U$A right....
Anyway I just got a new job and in 3 months I get health insurance, very excited, my wife needs medicine and new glasses, I could use a physical.


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Re: How many of you broke fools ain't got no health insurance?
« Reply #35 on: June 30, 2012, 02:48:03 PM »
I pay $100 a month for a decent plan and I couldn't imagine cancelling or going without it, especially as a skateboarder.

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Re: How many of you broke fools ain't got no health insurance?
« Reply #36 on: July 01, 2012, 09:00:52 AM »
To those in other countries talking about taxes and stuff. Ready to hear the fucked up thing? The U.S. spends a LARGER portion of its GDP on healthcare than a vast majority of countries with socialized healthcare. Between health insurance subsidies, dealing with the costs of non-payment at public hospitals, and a bunch of other costs I don't quite understand, it costs the U.S. public more to have a system where they end up having to pay private insurance companies for care in the end on top of it. Our taxes should be higher. To the person saying they pay in the low 20's- so do most Americans, and as far as a top rate of 60%- there isn't any valid reason we don't have that, aside from the fact that rich people control the government and won't tax their own.

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Re: How many of you broke fools ain't got no health insurance?
« Reply #37 on: July 01, 2012, 09:36:40 AM »
 Even in countries with a public health system taxes are high because rich people dont pay their taxes. Overally a public system is always better if done right. You cant have things like health be a matter of profit.

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Re: How many of you broke fools ain't got no health insurance?
« Reply #38 on: July 01, 2012, 09:48:46 AM »
Lots of embarassing things were said here my god..seriously though I'm happy to live in Europe for the 'health care issue', there's a lot of shit that can go wrong in health and the gnarliest ones do not even depend on your lifestyle, how can you be that unaware about it?
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Re: How many of you broke fools ain't got no health insurance?
« Reply #39 on: July 01, 2012, 10:19:49 AM »
I broke my thumb last year and needed surgery to fix it.

I didn't have the insurance or money to do that so I just let it be.

Now, my left hand is pretty regular. Like seriously, imagine counting dollar bills with one hand.

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Re: How many of you broke fools ain't got no health insurance?
« Reply #40 on: July 01, 2012, 10:38:08 AM »
Lots of embarassing things were said here my god..seriously though I'm happy to live in Europe for the 'health care issue', there's a lot of shit that can go wrong in health and the gnarliest ones do not even depend on your lifestyle, how can you be that unaware about it?

don't be so smug about your gross over simplification. europes has a whole ton of problems that public spending not lining up with reality. the programs will eventually have to either decline services or go bust. at least this proposed plan here is attempting to solve that issue by requiring everyone to chip in buy buying into the system while allowing our tax rates to remain comparatively way lower. i don't believe there is a single sucessful model of how to run a health care plan on the world stage currently and our current plan falls short in a lot of ways. no ones got the silver bullet yet.

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Re: How many of you broke fools ain't got no health insurance?
« Reply #41 on: July 01, 2012, 11:19:49 AM »
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Lots of embarassing things were said here my god..seriously though I'm happy to live in Europe for the 'health care issue', there's a lot of shit that can go wrong in health and the gnarliest ones do not even depend on your lifestyle, how can you be that unaware about it?
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don't be so smug about your gross over simplification. europes has a whole ton of problems that public spending not lining up with reality. the programs will eventually have to either decline services or go bust. at least this proposed plan here is attempting to solve that issue by requiring everyone to chip in buy buying into the system while allowing our tax rates to remain comparatively way lower. i don't believe there is a single sucessful model of how to run a health care plan on the world stage currently and our current plan falls short in a lot of ways. no ones got the silver bullet yet.
The problem of Europe is that they try to turn it into USA using debt as the excuse.