Anti-Hero in Israel

[ADOLF SHITLER]

lol this doesnt relate to cuba at all bruh

[ginatran]

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Honestly, I was thinking much the same as the OP but didn't want to bring it up here and bum everyone out.

One doesn't expect Anti Hero to get too political although having a nice ole' vacation in Israel in 2015 without any critical comment is akin to checking out skate spots in South Africa circa 1985.

I could be wrong - but there didn't look to be a whole lot of Arabs at any of those skateparks...

[close]

Being this ignorant in 2015.

[close]

What exactly is ignorant about this? Despite there not being a clear moral high ground on EITHER SIDE, what Israel does is effectively Apartheid and occupation.

Both sides commit atrocities, and have for 1500 years, but one side has money and international support.

There's no easy or pragmatic answer to any of this shit, and I don't and can't support one side over the other, but just wanted to point out in the original post that merely by traveling to Israel you're tacitly supporting them due to tourist dollars, etc.

Kind of like when Jay-Z and whatsherface went to Cuba before the normalization of relations.

You outdo your ignorance with each post.

[N.L.]

Some of the above comments are asinine. I lived in the Middle East for close to a decade. Most Arabs and most Muslims are reasonable rationale people who just want to get on with life like the rest of us and I'm sure most Jews and most Israelis are the same. Its the minority radicals and ludicrous leadership of both sides that sends this whole thing into a shit show. Not to mention the way US/ Eu foreign policy ensures no meaningful progress is ever made.

While it would have been cool for Antihero to skate both sides of the wall, its also cool that it was an apolitical trip, no bullshit involved- thats what Israeli skaters deserve. Same for Palestinians.

Check out God Went Surfing With the Devil- Its political but doesn't take sides and emphasizes the common desire of both sides to want to get on with life and surf... (Actually directed by a skateboarder Alex Klein)



For the record, my sympathies largely lie with the Palestinian people who are really getting the shaft in all this but feel for everyone involved.

[ginatran]

Some of the above comments are asinine. I lived in the Middle East for close to a decade. Most Arabs and most Muslims are reasonable rationale people who just want to get on with life like the rest of us and I'm sure most Jews and most Israelis are the same. Its the minority radicals and ludicrous leadership of both sides that sends this whole thing into a shit show. Not to mention the way US/ Eu foreign policy ensures no meaningful progress is ever made.

While it would have been cool for Antihero to skate both sides of the wall, its also cool that it was an apolitical trip, no bullshit involved- thats what Israeli skaters deserve. Same for Palestinians.

Check out God Went Surfing With the Devil- Its political but doesn't take sides and emphasizes the common desire of both sides to want to get on with life and surf... (Actually directed by a skateboarder Alex Klein)




For the record, my sympathies largely lie with the Palestinian people who are really getting the shaft in all this but feel for everyone involved.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/05/01/64-percent-of-muslims-in-egypt-and-pakistan-support-the-death-penalty-for-leaving-islam/

Egypt, kek, one of the of the more moderate Islamic countries. Might want to rethink your definition of rational.

[yatallfreak]

Who would have thought this thread would be full of Islamophobia

[360 frip]

This puts some figures and perspective on the whole situation:

http://thrivalroom.com/understand-israeli-palestinian-apartheid-11-graphics/

Really, blaming Palestinians is ridiculous.

I liked the video but claiming "I want to skate the Middle East for the next ten years" when you've only just visited Israel seems naive at best. Particularly when your country is responsible for terrorising and destabilising the whole region.

[Willie]

Hey Ginatran: maybe you could elucidate what is wrong with some people here having misgivings about Israel's treatment of Palestinians, instead of just repeating "Thatz ignorint!!!"


Worst AIPAC plant evah!

[N.L.]

Expand Quote

Some of the above comments are asinine. I lived in the Middle East for close to a decade. Most Arabs and most Muslims are reasonable rationale people who just want to get on with life like the rest of us and I'm sure most Jews and most Israelis are the same. Its the minority radicals and ludicrous leadership of both sides that sends this whole thing into a shit show. Not to mention the way US/ Eu foreign policy ensures no meaningful progress is ever made.

While it would have been cool for Antihero to skate both sides of the wall, its also cool that it was an apolitical trip, no bullshit involved- thats what Israeli skaters deserve. Same for Palestinians.

Check out God Went Surfing With the Devil- Its political but doesn't take sides and emphasizes the common desire of both sides to want to get on with life and surf... (Actually directed by a skateboarder Alex Klein)




For the record, my sympathies largely lie with the Palestinian people who are really getting the shaft in all this but feel for everyone involved.

[close]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/05/01/64-percent-of-muslims-in-egypt-and-pakistan-support-the-death-penalty-for-leaving-islam/

Egypt, kek, one of the of the more moderate Islamic countries. Might want to rethink your definition of rational.

And we've all read the 'polls' about mind-blownig American views on various topics. I try to base my opinion on talking to real humans beings who have complicated and personal views on things ( like most of us do) not a simple Y/N poll.

[SHARPSHOOTER]

That ride up to the roof and frontside ollie in, should be enough to end any political conflict.

[stevedave]

That ride up to the roof and frontside ollie in, should be enough to end any political conflict.

that's the JFK memorial.  people have skated the transition before, but not the roof/awning. 

[tortfeasor]

Expand Quote

you can't bring up Israel or Palestine without mentioning the political conflict

[close]

it's even more than political, it's about humans lives

if it was about human lives in the mortality sense- C.A.R., Ukraine, and Syria would be getting a lot more attention. If it was about human lives in the quality of life sense- China, North Korea and Brazil would be getting a lot more attention.  Outsider interest in the Arab/ Israeli conflict comes from the need to find stories that fit a person's narrative. it is the perfect learning tool for someone to find their political stance and values . its the perfect representation multiple warring schools of thought. which makes it ripe for politics.




also the editing was a little tough to get through but watching them all rip that bank back to back to back was fucking awesome

[ginatran]

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Some of the above comments are asinine. I lived in the Middle East for close to a decade. Most Arabs and most Muslims are reasonable rationale people who just want to get on with life like the rest of us and I'm sure most Jews and most Israelis are the same. Its the minority radicals and ludicrous leadership of both sides that sends this whole thing into a shit show. Not to mention the way US/ Eu foreign policy ensures no meaningful progress is ever made.

While it would have been cool for Antihero to skate both sides of the wall, its also cool that it was an apolitical trip, no bullshit involved- thats what Israeli skaters deserve. Same for Palestinians.

Check out God Went Surfing With the Devil- Its political but doesn't take sides and emphasizes the common desire of both sides to want to get on with life and surf... (Actually directed by a skateboarder Alex Klein)




For the record, my sympathies largely lie with the Palestinian people who are really getting the shaft in all this but feel for everyone involved.

[close]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/05/01/64-percent-of-muslims-in-egypt-and-pakistan-support-the-death-penalty-for-leaving-islam/

Egypt, kek, one of the of the more moderate Islamic countries. Might want to rethink your definition of rational.

[close]

And we've all read the 'polls' about mind-blownig American views on various topics. I try to base my opinion on talking to real humans beings who have complicated and personal views on things ( like most of us do) not a simple Y/N poll.

Pew is not some Fox News research center, and the Washington Post is a respected paper.  I see your point though, death for apostasy is a complicated issue, lol.

http://www.pewforum.org/files/2013/04/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

Read the full report, it's not a "simple Y/N poll".

[iwishilivedinfinla]

Julien is Jewish.


Probably just because the spots are better. Don't think too much.

Julien also has a kid out there.  so save your political bullshit for another forum that cares.



Another instant classic from the best company in skateboarding.

[southsecond]

lol this doesnt relate to cuba at all bruh

It absolutely does. Considering that Cuba has been run by what a lot of people call an oppressive regime for decades, the simple act of traveling there during an embargo is a tacit endorsement of the government's policies.

Your political insight is astounding, bruh. LOL.

[southsecond]

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Honestly, I was thinking much the same as the OP but didn't want to bring it up here and bum everyone out.

One doesn't expect Anti Hero to get too political although having a nice ole' vacation in Israel in 2015 without any critical comment is akin to checking out skate spots in South Africa circa 1985.

I could be wrong - but there didn't look to be a whole lot of Arabs at any of those skateparks...

[close]

Being this ignorant in 2015.

[close]

What exactly is ignorant about this? Despite there not being a clear moral high ground on EITHER SIDE, what Israel does is effectively Apartheid and occupation.

Both sides commit atrocities, and have for 1500 years, but one side has money and international support.

There's no easy or pragmatic answer to any of this shit, and I don't and can't support one side over the other, but just wanted to point out in the original post that merely by traveling to Israel you're tacitly supporting them due to tourist dollars, etc.

Kind of like when Jay-Z and whatsherface went to Cuba before the normalization of relations.

[close]

You outdo your ignorance with each post.

Calling something nuanced and without a clear answer is "ignorant?" You're a real gem, lady.

[spool of cord]

yeah this ginatran character is definitely in the military