DC, Es and Circa were so different then they are now. DC has the same vibes but people actually fucked with them prior to Dyrdek going main stream and what not. I remember I would love seeing Stevie all decked out in DC gear and made his shoes just as cool as sports athletes shoes. Same with Es and even Circa. Every time Koston or even Muska put out a shoe, I was hyped on it. They don't have that vibe at all.