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I'm pretty sure it's BBS....14.25 is pretty standard....maybe they'll stretch it, PS normally would be a bit smaller...with the change over it could change.
If you peep other threads people saying it goes back and forth between PS and BBS for FA. I have both. And Schmitt is widely known for directing the dims against pros wills. As far as not thinking woodshops have influence over industry standards, Schmitt is the exception and the obvious example. Goes against riders preferences based on his "greater judgement". I'm still holding firm on his comment and my question of how everyone feels about overall dims being compacted and that finally rolling out into the consumer market. Am I just used to the ego of a longer WB or is 14.25 a tad too short for 8.5?
Those people are wrong. It hasn't been like that for over a year at this point. You can occasionally still find some PS ones in shops but they're old stock, everything since last spring has been BBS. I posted this last time it came up but the BBS ones have 5 stock sizes
8.5 x 31.9 with a 14.25 wb
8.38 x 31.75 with a 14.18 wb
8.25 x 31.79 with a 14.12 wb
8.18 x 31.73 with a 14wb
8 x 31.66 with a 14wb
I'm curious as to where you get that he's "directing dims against pros wills" because everything I've ever heard about PS is that he'll actually work with pros and give them a true pro model to their specs if they want it, but some of them just don't care. He does have his weird little height/wb chart thing that he uses for create-a-skate but thats literally one-off DIY deck kits and its just a guideline, you can still drill them whatever you want. None of their dimensions seem out of line with the rest of the industry (except maybe the 14.5" wb on 8.25 x 31.5 Toy Machine mellow decks but that shapes been around forever) and the fact that FA/Hockey decks have a shorter wheelbase now is entirely down to the fact that they're NOT using his woodshop anymore.
Valid points. When I made this thread I was initially just doing it to comment on Quasi WB but included FA cause I wrongfully asusmed they shared dims (and FA was still PS). The FA I posted I got March of last year.
As far as not doing specifically what pros request, the most obvious example is PJ Ladd. Where he says he wants this this and that, and the finished product it tweaked to what Paul thinks is best. Will try to uncover the others I've heard about. Danny Fuenzalida's company Kast is PS and his recent drop he commented how the WB's were reduced, which coincides with PS new norm. He talks about it in his Nine Club...
*Edit* Okay, I'm looking at FA site right now and they're PS... click on the image of the tops and open in new tab and zoom.
They are not PS. BBS does the laser engraving too, same spike cartoon and it says "Hecho en Mexico". They do this for a number of other companies as well, like Doom Sayers. The PS ones had a PS serial # along with the engraving. You're welcome to email them and ask yourself, as several people on here have done.
Again, I'm not sure why you think PS are the ones behind this "wb reducing" trend when, if anything, they actually have some of the longer wbs in the industry. Hell I don't think I've ever even seen a >8" PS board with a 14" wheelbase. Toy Machine and Welcome are probably two of their biggest customers and they both have a bunch of 14.5" (or longer) wheelbases.
From what I remember hearing PJ chose to ride control boards simply because he liked the wood better (though I can't fucking understand why if that is infact what hes riding, worst wood I've skated), and PS even tried to make everything exactly how he wanted it. I think you're tilting at windmills here man.
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