Spitfire wheels vs bones wheels

[Xen]

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I gave Bones a try again but just puled these jawns off and put some Spitfire OG classics on instead



These things were fast enough but felt/sounded dead and messed with my pop (and I'm old so I need all the help I can get).

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Yeah, the 99's definitely have a strange deep deadened sound to them. I like the way the rolled, but the slide was awful enough that I just pulled them off my board too.

I've got hopes for Bones/PP's new wheels though.

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I'm with some of you folks on this one: I think Bones have the potential to be better than Spits in specific scenarios, but if you're looking for a wheel that does pretty well in basically any setting, Spitfire F4 99s are the way to go.

You CAN'T beat an SPF 84b wheel in a smooth park, super fast and great grip/slip ratio. And the Bones 99a STFs I have found are really good both on super rough ground and where you need some extra grip. Since I tend to ride mostly transition and have the fortune to have 3 pretty new parks in my area I skate regularly, I've been really loving Bones 84b SPFs for a lot of my skating, and rock the 99a STFs for when I skate curbs and stuff.

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I've heard so much great stuff about their park wheels.

STF 103a are great, but really situational since they are too hard for streets.

STF 99a have so much potential, but for me they are unrideable due to how awful their slide is. I love how fast they are and how well they tackle rough streets for being 99a. They tackle streets closer to a 97a.

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I gave Bones a try again but just puled these jawns off and put some Spitfire OG classics on instead



These things were fast enough but felt/sounded dead and messed with my pop (and I'm old so I need all the help I can get).

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I've been riding 103a STFs and thought they felt a little soft. Picked up a new set (54mm) 103As and they too felt soft, and a little dead..I know it was brought up in a recent thread where the current STF 103s are not what they used to be, I can attest to that they feel like 95...they don't even chirp well anymore; 101a spits/ricta/OJ feel much harder...

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That's wild. You sure they are 103a? It sounds like you are describing 99a. STF 103a are unmistakably harder than 101a OJ.

If you are 100% sure you bought 103a, then maybe its a packaging/manufacturing error, because that sounds so off base from the 103a's I've rocked. Though to be fair I haven't ridden any in a couple years now.

They're 103a for sure I have both the 99s and two sets of 103s...the 103s feel really really dead...dry bearings, lots of wheel play...99a spits feel and sound harder...really weird; buddy of mine said they felt really off too...they're also less white, they're not brown like the 99s but they are not as white as they used to be...still a bit off white but for sure less bright.




I've shelved both sets tho, bummed but back on Spit F4s and everythings fine. Thinking about SML AGs

[FuzzGNU]

They're 103a for sure I have both the 99s and two sets of 103s...the 103s feel really really dead...dry bearings, lots of wheel play...99a spits feel and sound harder...really weird; buddy of mine said they felt really off too...they're also less white, they're not brown like the 99s but they are not as white as they used to be...still a bit off white but for sure less bright.




I've shelved both sets tho, bummed but back on Spit F4s and everythings fine. Thinking about SML AGs

That is so wild. What the hell is going on over there at Bones?

I've actually got a pair of new-ish Bones 103a on the backburner and you're right, they're definitely off-white. Why would they do that?

Are they really affecting usability of the wheel because Spitfire are trendy right now. Do they really think people are going to switch from Spitfire to Bones because their plasticky looking white wheels are now plasticky looking off-white?

I hope they come to their senses. Maybe their new experimental formula will be the the thing that puts them back in a good place. Spitfire is really lacking in the 95-97a range. Seems like a great place for Bones to call their own. Especially with America's crumbling infrastructure and austerity hellscape. Street/ground are getting too shitty for 99a in much of this dying country.

[Xen]

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They're 103a for sure I have both the 99s and two sets of 103s...the 103s feel really really dead...dry bearings, lots of wheel play...99a spits feel and sound harder...really weird; buddy of mine said they felt really off too...they're also less white, they're not brown like the 99s but they are not as white as they used to be...still a bit off white but for sure less bright.




I've shelved both sets tho, bummed but back on Spit F4s and everythings fine. Thinking about SML AGs

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That is so wild. What the hell is going on over there at Bones?

I've actually got a pair of new-ish Bones 103a on the backburner and you're right, they're definitely off-white. Why would they do that?

Are they really affecting usability of the wheel because Spitfire are trendy right now. Do they really think people are going to switch from Spitfire to Bones because their plasticky looking white wheels are now plasticky looking off-white?

I hope they come to their senses. Maybe their new experimental formula will be the the thing that puts them back in a good place. Spitfire is really lacking in the 95-97a range. Seems like a great place for Bones to call their own. Especially with America's crumbling infrastructure and austerity hellscape. Street/ground are getting too shitty for 99a in much of this dying country.

The only reason they switched to the natural 99a from the bright ass white of the first ez streets (and fucked up the forula while doing so) was def a marketing maneuver.

Thing is, while small, there was a group that rode bones because they were bright white. The new 103s and 99s are very close...

'old' 103a STF:


'new' 103a STF:


new/current 99a stf


1st gen easy streets:

[FuzzGNU]

The only reason they switched to the natural 99a from the bright ass white of the first ez streets (and fucked up the forula while doing so) was def a marketing maneuver.

Thing is, while small, there was a group that rode bones because they were bright white. The new 103s and 99s are very close...

Yeah, it seems so shortsighted.

Here I am... I just want them to skate well. I think bright white Bones look good, I think Spitfires look good. I just want the wheel that lets me skate without having to think about my wheels.

The natural STF 99a are unskateable for me... but based on how people talked about the white 99a, those things are a dream wheel for me. Its wild they discontinued it so quick that I couldn't even try them.

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The only reason they switched to the natural 99a from the bright ass white of the first ez streets (and fucked up the forula while doing so) was def a marketing maneuver.

Thing is, while small, there was a group that rode bones because they were bright white. The new 103s and 99s are very close...

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Yeah, it seems so shortsighted.

Here I am... I just want them to skate well. I think bright white Bones look good, I think Spitfires look good. I just want the wheel that lets me skate without having to think about my wheels.

The natural STF 99a are unskateable for me... but based on how people talked about the white 99a, those things are a dream wheel for me. Its wild they discontinued it so quick that I couldn't even try them.

Yeah, I've written off the 99a bones for life (unless they bring back the previous formula, which is probably never going to happen). There is no reason to choose them above spit 99a unless you get them for free...and even then I'd sell them and get spits

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The only reason they switched to the natural 99a from the bright ass white of the first ez streets (and fucked up the forula while doing so) was def a marketing maneuver.

Thing is, while small, there was a group that rode bones because they were bright white. The new 103s and 99s are very close...

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Yeah, it seems so shortsighted.

Here I am... I just want them to skate well. I think bright white Bones look good, I think Spitfires look good. I just want the wheel that lets me skate without having to think about my wheels.

The natural STF 99a are unskateable for me... but based on how people talked about the white 99a, those things are a dream wheel for me. Its wild they discontinued it so quick that I couldn't even try them.

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Yeah, I've written off the 99a bones for life (unless they bring back the previous formula, which is probably never going to happen). There is no reason to choose them above spit 99a unless you get them for free...and even then I'd sell them and get spits

There ARE "reasons". They are definitely faster and tackle shitty roads better than Spits 99a. But again, the slide is unskateable, what's the point? Insane how bad they fucked that part of the wheel up.

I'm optimistic about Bones turning stuff around though. I've seen so many of their wheels on clearance lately, it has to be a wake-up call for them to change. And again, that new formula is coming out sometime this year... maybe in the next month or two.

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I’m really, really curious about Bones’ new formula they are releasing, 95 or 90a, But that vibrate at an unusually high frequency, allowing for slides.

Apparently it’s been in development for 10 years.

[FuzzGNU]

I’m really, really curious about Bones’ new formula they are releasing, 95 or 90a, But that vibrate at an unusually high frequency, allowing for slides.

Apparently it’s been in development for 10 years.

I've got a little bit of info on that front. As far as I know it will be 90a, 93a, 95a and 97a. Who knows if will change when its released though.

[Velcro Wallet]

The 90’s kid in me wants white wheels. Very white. So white that if they started going brown I’d used a white posca pen or something.

I’m not ashamed to admit that. 

[DarkPools]

Bones are cringe, period

YOU are cringe. Bones are far from cringe.

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Tried riding both sets of the 103a STFs yesterday coming off 101 spits for few days (radial slims)...it was horrible.

They might as well be 100/99a just dull feeling/sounding...they still slide great but zero bark, like they've been muted somehow.

Switched over to my hard-ass-still-white Rictas Slims, night and day; compared to the 101a spits the 101a Rictas are more jarring/less forgiving on spotty terrain...love'em or hate'em, they slide great, like a hard ass wheel, just differently than spits.

Poked around and found a new Ricta release that is a spot on V5 shape, 'Orbital Naturals' the 52s are labeled as a mid so clearly it sits between their slims and wides.

https://rictawheels.com/wheels#naturals

[rocklobster]

https://nhsfunfactory.com/products/51mm-reflective-naturals-super-slim-101a-ricta-skateboard-wheels?utm_source=rictawheels.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=product-shop&utm_content=51mm%20Reflective%20Naturals%20Super%20Slim%20101a

The Orbital looks interesting, a skinny conical like a Bones V5.

They even do a Super Slim shape, nice.

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https://nhsfunfactory.com/products/51mm-reflective-naturals-super-slim-101a-ricta-skateboard-wheels?utm_source=rictawheels.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=product-shop&utm_content=51mm%20Reflective%20Naturals%20Super%20Slim%20101a

The Orbital looks interesting, a skinny conical like a Bones V5.

They even do a Super Slim shape, nice.

I’m a fan of the super slims, been skating them since I switched off stf. Great skinny conical. The mids seem v5/side cut…I’ll know if a few days.

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https://nhsfunfactory.com/products/51mm-reflective-naturals-super-slim-101a-ricta-skateboard-wheels?utm_source=rictawheels.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=product-shop&utm_content=51mm%20Reflective%20Naturals%20Super%20Slim%20101a

The Orbital looks interesting, a skinny conical like a Bones V5.

They even do a Super Slim shape, nice.

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I’m a fan of the super slims, been skating them since I switched off stf. Great skinny conical. The mids seem v5/side cut…I’ll know if a few days.

So kind of like a V1 with a wider riding surface?

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Less rounded sidewall than a V1




They’re much more straight/square but a slight rounded lip, like a radial slim slim

[rocklobster]

Less rounded sidewall than a V1




They’re much more straight/square but a slight rounded lip, like a radial slim slim

You son of a bitch im in

Edit: 51mm got me thinking if I want to punish my bones to try these out.

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Less rounded sidewall than a V1




They’re much more straight/square but a slight rounded lip, like a radial slim slim

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You son of a bitch im in

Edit: 51mm got me thinking if I want to punish my bones to try these out.

They're my favorite hard wheel right now (seeing as the last batch of STFs let me down in a big way), and the best slim out there (because it isn't a V3/Satori slim shape/style); they're the Nyjah super slims (52mm) assuming the same width give or take a mm as the 51 SSlims listed.

Did I mention that they're hard?

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=82118.msg3384533#msg3384533 (old thread when I got my first set)

[Xen]

Tried riding both sets of the 103a STFs yesterday coming off 101 spits for few days (radial slims)...it was horrible.

They might as well be 100/99a just dull feeling/sounding...they still slide great but zero bark, like they've been muted somehow.

Switched over to my hard-ass-still-white Rictas Slims, night and day; compared to the 101a spits the 101a Rictas are more jarring/less forgiving on spotty terrain...love'em or hate'em, they slide great, like a hard ass wheel, just differently than spits.

Poked around and found a new Ricta release that is a spot on V5 shape, 'Orbital Naturals' the 52s are labeled as a mid so clearly it sits between their slims and wides.

https://rictawheels.com/wheels#naturals

shit pic, wheels look totally deformed.

Tad wider than same height bones V5s, essentially the same shape. stoked.