Which is best for body longevity ?

[sid vicious]

Manual pads

[Lee Ralphs Dear Old Mum]

Andrew Allen's body.

[cucktard]

Stop skating

[Hyliannightmare]

Better shoes and knee spandex for running

[323-BALM]

sheathing, pump, squat

I thought I had something to say but you got it covered with those.

The big three.

Like in the song.

[gnidraobetaks]

Lots lots and lots of meat. Lots. If your knees are hurting it’s because you have a loss of red meat cells. High Keto diet will really help your knees. Sugar is really bad because it makes your body like something more than meat. Meat makes muscle, and will get you the high score in all categories of health. Bread and sugar are the devil, I can’t believe theres sugar in stuff like beer and monster energy.

[SneakySecrets]

Lots lots and lots of meat. Lots. If your knees are hurting it’s because you have a loss of red meat cells. High Keto diet will really help your knees. Sugar is really bad because it makes your body like something more than meat. Meat makes muscle, and will get you the high score in all categories of health. Bread and sugar are the devil, I can’t believe theres sugar in stuff like beer and monster energy.

[Ray C. Usery]

I've been skating for 15 years now, I turned 30 this year, and I got motivated to maintain my body ..

I had already started about 1 and a half years ago to stretch every morning, and to watch what I eat. It did me a lot of good, and I thought that putting myself in muscle building alongside skateboarding would help me too ! So I started this summer with a sports application, 3 times a week, to do sheathing, pump, squat, and a little cardio.

I would like to point out that I walk a lot, as soon as I can, I will walk in the forest for an hour.

But, for a month, I have a little discomfort in my knee, and I think it's the cardio exercises that are maybe a little too violent for my knees..

that's why I hesitate to stop cardio, I have the impression that it's too violent, especially for everything that is cardio ! And yet, it did me good, I found pop, liveliness and tricks that I hadn't used for a long time!
I have the impression that all this is a lot compared to skateboarding, which is already violent in terms of shock to the body ! (I hesitate to continue only the sheathing and push-ups.)

I wanted to ask you, skateboarder over 30, is it enough to just eat well, don't drink alcohol, stretch every morning, and walk a lot ? I tell myself, after all, I can continue to do only this, but .. would it really allow me to keep the liveliness, the strength and to have prevention against injuries ?


Or.. maybe I'm asking myself too many questions? I wonder if all the pros maintain the body ..

Thank you for your valuable advice !

The first step and best thing is to have a plan you can stick to and it looks like you have that

Most people get runners knee from over use of the muscles, tendons and ligaments connected/related to the area. A lot of things can help with that, taking it easy for awhile is the easiest. Getting a thicker running sole, hiking for just 30 minutes etc. Gradually building up the muscles, tendons and ligaments strength around your knee

I'm almost 50 and skate 3 to 5 hours a week I constantly tweak my ankles and knees, land in the splits and have avoided hospital time by following this routine for 3 years now. I'm a huge advocate and complete nerd about it

Zero
Zero weights needed. Zero equipment needed. Zero need to work through pain. Zero special abilities needed to start. Welcome to Knee Ability Zero. The following formula can be done 3 days per week, ideally Monday-Wednesday-Friday to allow 48 hours recovery between sessions.

WARM-UP: 5-10 MINUTES MONDAY-WEDNESDAY-FRIDAY
Reverse Out Knee Pain


LOWER BODY FLOW: MONDAY-WEDNESDAY-FRIDAY

Step 1: Tibialis Raise 25 reps


Step 2: FHL Calf Raise 25 reps


Step 3: Tibialis Raise 25 reps


Step 4: KOT Calf Raise 25 reps


Step 5: Patrick Step 25 reps


Step 6: ATG Split Squat 5 x 5 sets per leg


Troubleshooting Split Squats


Step 7: Elephant Walk 30 reps per leg


Step 8: L-Sit 60 second’s total


Step 9: Couch Stretch 60 sec. per side


MOBILITY & UPPER BODY FLOW: TUESDAY-THURSDAY: 1-3 ROUNDS OF EACH

Calf Stretch x 60 Sec Each


Hamstring Stretch x 60 Sec Each


Outer Glute Stretch x 60 Sec Each


Groin Stretch x 60 Sec


Inner Hamstring Stretch x 60 Sec

[pleasent street]

Lots lots and lots of meat. Lots. If your knees are hurting it’s because you have a loss of red meat cells. High Keto diet will really help your knees. Sugar is really bad because it makes your body like something more than meat. Meat makes muscle, and will get you the high score in all categories of health. Bread and sugar are the devil, I can’t believe theres sugar in stuff like beer and monster energy.

yep and make sure there is lots of fatty cuts in there too because animal fat is great for you

[FrenchSkater]

I noticed a lot of people have different advice, and thank you for responding!

To clarify, the cardio exercises I did were without running, on the spot. Jumping jack, squat / jumped squat, sprawl etc .. This surely weakened my knee, I have trouble falling, and since then I have a very small pain on the side of the knee when I take support. That's why for the moment I slow down everything that is lower body, even doing squats without weight, I'm afraid of hurting myself..

With the advice I got, I'm thinking of going on a bike, I think it's something that strengthens the legs and gives power, without a violent shock.

Maybe continue sheathing next to anything that is stretching etc..

For those who told me to eat a lot of meat, the problem is that each person's body reacts differently and many have different opinions on this .. I think you have to know how to eat everything but in moderation! Too little or too much is not good !

[Filip]

Another thing that came to my mind, jump rope is amazing. I try to jump before each session, at least for 5 minutes or so.

And stretch after session, way more important than before.

[OldieButFrenchie]

Skating, like boxing, is a young man’s game.  You will get to bear witness to the slow, gradual, but ultimately inescapable erosion of your ability on your skateboard.

Your pop will fade into a forlorn ghost of its prior self.  Tricks will suddenly not work, and some will be lost forever. Forget popping up like Gumby after a slam like you used to; if you fall, you’re staying down for while, so I suggest bringing a book.

Hope this helps.

haha best advice right there! I'm 48 and practically all my skate buddies have quit over the years. And I feel when dedicated skaters quit, it's because they can't stand the regression that comes with age. Your ego has to accept getting worse and worse....except if you're Dae-won of course. for me the change started at 35, that's when I noticed my body not responding like it used to. But I guess it's different for everybody, genetics (and history of injuries) really do play a part I think.

[Steely Daniel]

Skating, like boxing, is a young man’s game.  You will get to bear witness to the slow, gradual, but ultimately inescapable erosion of your ability on your skateboard. 

Your pop will fade into a forlorn ghost of its prior self.  Tricks will suddenly not work, and some will be lost forever. Forget popping up like Gumby after a slam like you used to; if you fall, you’re staying down for while, so I suggest bringing a book.

Hope this helps.

Well put. Nice to see the comparison to boxing as well. I got super into boxing (as a fan/spectator) in the last 10 years and always thought they had quite a few similarities despite being vastly different pass times. The tolerance for pain, having to pick yourself up off the ground/canvas and keep giving it your all. The persistence of practicing one little motion over and over. The fact that they're both individual sports that basically anyone can participate in, with very little equipment and people who came up hard with little money are often some of the best to ever do it. I probably had some more examples but that's all I can think of at the moment.

[Roisto]

I noticed a lot of people have different advice, and thank you for responding!

To clarify, the cardio exercises I did were without running, on the spot. Jumping jack, squat / jumped squat, sprawl etc .. This surely weakened my knee, I have trouble falling, and since then I have a very small pain on the side of the knee when I take support. That's why for the moment I slow down everything that is lower body, even doing squats without weight, I'm afraid of hurting myself..

With the advice I got, I'm thinking of going on a bike, I think it's something that strengthens the legs and gives power, without a violent shock.

Maybe continue sheathing next to anything that is stretching etc..

For those who told me to eat a lot of meat, the problem is that each person's body reacts differently and many have different opinions on this .. I think you have to know how to eat everything but in moderation! Too little or too much is not good !

I don’t think cardio is that relevant for improving your skateboarding or longevity. Being stronger, more reactive and having good range of motion are more important. Of course if you’re completely out of shape cardio might be helpful but it doesn’t seem that you’re that out of shape. Cardio can work as a nice warm up before the session though.

I have noticed that warming up slowly with dynamic stretching greatly improves my sessions and decreases the likelihood that I’ll hurt myself. I’m also now hitting the gym to gain some more strength to help my body deal with the strains of skateboarding better. Thankfully we get free appointments with a personal trainer through work. That has been really helpful for me.

[l1ll1ll1]

Don't drink alcohol. Watch what you eat or at least just make sure it's diverse. Have fun. Stretch and breath.

[Ankle_Lift]

Skating, like boxing, is a young man’s game.  You will get to bear witness to the slow, gradual, but ultimately inescapable erosion of your ability on your skateboard. 

Your pop will fade into a forlorn ghost of its prior self.  Tricks will suddenly not work, and some will be lost forever. Forget popping up like Gumby after a slam like you used to; if you fall, you’re staying down for while, so I suggest bringing a book.

Hope this helps.

And eventually, you find yourself sessioning the quarter pipe at the skate park at 8am, and you ask yourself, "How did I get here?"

[KGB]

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I read somewhere recently jogging is actually good for your knees as it builds them up to resist impact. Listen to your body of course, if something hurts don't keep pushing it. I've found for myself I feel best when I keep moving and skating, if I take a week off and be lazy I stiffen up.

[close]

I'd be surprised if this is true, everything I've read in the last 20 years basically says we shouldn't jog at all our bodies were designed to either run or walk. I guess if you make sure you do proper running technique the speed doesn't matter but many do a wired walking technique when jogging and it really fucks them up.
Also been reading too much cardio is bad for your heart which sounds wrong but in my experience could be correct. I was cardio king but then started having weird heart shit going on a couple years back. Prob just some confirmation bias type thing tho lol.

Never heard running is good for your knees either. I guess if you’re going to do it make sure your toes hit the ground before your heels. Same with just walking really, otherwise your heel is just driving all that weight/pressure straight into a locked knee/leg..

[mj23]

is it enough to just eat well, don't drink alcohol, stretch every morning, and walk a lot ?

unfortunately no, this is not quite enough, especially as you get into your 30s doing a high impact sport like skateboarding. you need to be more mindful of the cardio (aim for lower impact stuff like cycling, elliptical machine, or swimming; avoid running), and probably add in some targeted strength/stability training for your core and lower body.

this interview with a physical therapist who also skates is a good place to start:

Could a lot of injuries be avoided by doing things like warming up or preventative exercises?

Absolutely. I’m guilty myself. Some of my worst injuries have been at the beginning of the session without warming up properly. At the very least, all skaters should be spending 10 minutes doing dynamic stretching prior to the session. In addition to warming up correctly, performing preventative exercises on a regular basis (2-3x/week) can also be helpful. Performing a regular proprioception training (balance) routine can help prevent things like ankle sprains and ACL injuries. I also recommend a consistent glute training/strengthening program, which can prevent a wide variety of ankle and knee injuries. In short, spend 20-30 minutes challenging your balance and giving your ass muscles a good burn a few times per week! It’ll go a long way. I have plenty of options for balance and glute training exercises on my Instagram.

His instagram is https://www.instagram.com/dr.kylebrown/

[pleasent street]

more skaters should just get fully padded up and skate bowls if you want longevity. guys like lance mountain and steve cab are still going strong.

[dannyprovolone]

Just quit. smoking weed and watching skating is way better.

[Mean salto]

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I read somewhere recently jogging is actually good for your knees as it builds them up to resist impact. Listen to your body of course, if something hurts don't keep pushing it. I've found for myself I feel best when I keep moving and skating, if I take a week off and be lazy I stiffen up.

[close]

I'd be surprised if this is true, everything I've read in the last 20 years basically says we shouldn't jog at all our bodies were designed to either run or walk. I guess if you make sure you do proper running technique the speed doesn't matter but many do a wired walking technique when jogging and it really fucks them up.
Also been reading too much cardio is bad for your heart which sounds wrong but in my experience could be correct. I was cardio king but then started having weird heart shit going on a couple years back. Prob just some confirmation bias type thing tho lol.

[close]

Never heard running is good for your knees either. I guess if you’re going to do it make sure your toes hit the ground before your heels. Same with just walking really, otherwise your heel is just driving all that weight/pressure straight into a locked knee/leg..

I think walking is ok to do slight heel first as it's not too much more impact than your general body weight. unfortunately with most shoe designs tho it's easy to heel thump either in your normal leather shoes/boots because the heel sticks out or runners etc people tend to like squishing the foam or airbubble whatever thinking that's what it's for.

[boi-cuzudo]

I'm 30+

I recommend riding a bicycle if you can, it's great for cardio and your mental health will thank you. Definitely recommend you check out the knees over toes program and incorporate some of that stuff to your work outs, I mostly do body weight exercises and yoga. Getting a good night of sleep is very important for recovery. Avoid sugars, processed white flour, dairy, inflammatory foods in general will slow your body down, eat plenty of dark leafy greens, fruits and stay well hydrated. After I turned 30, my body takes longer to recover after a hard skate session, it also takes me longer to get properly warmed up, so I take my time and make sure my body is all warmed up and ready, otherwise I risk getting a stupid injury. Before I turned 30 I didn't have to worry too much about stretching, exercising, eating well and sleeping well.

[FrenchSkater]

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I noticed a lot of people have different advice, and thank you for responding!

To clarify, the cardio exercises I did were without running, on the spot. Jumping jack, squat / jumped squat, sprawl etc .. This surely weakened my knee, I have trouble falling, and since then I have a very small pain on the side of the knee when I take support. That's why for the moment I slow down everything that is lower body, even doing squats without weight, I'm afraid of hurting myself..

With the advice I got, I'm thinking of going on a bike, I think it's something that strengthens the legs and gives power, without a violent shock.

Maybe continue sheathing next to anything that is stretching etc..

For those who told me to eat a lot of meat, the problem is that each person's body reacts differently and many have different opinions on this .. I think you have to know how to eat everything but in moderation! Too little or too much is not good !

[close]

I don’t think cardio is that relevant for improving your skateboarding or longevity. Being stronger, more reactive and having good range of motion are more important. Of course if you’re completely out of shape cardio might be helpful but it doesn’t seem that you’re that out of shape. Cardio can work as a nice warm up before the session though.

I have noticed that warming up slowly with dynamic stretching greatly improves my sessions and decreases the likelihood that I’ll hurt myself. I’m also now hitting the gym to gain some more strength to help my body deal with the strains of skateboarding better. Thankfully we get free appointments with a personal trainer through work. That has been really helpful for me.

I'll stick to this! I'm going to continue the sheathing and push-ups, and why not start bike

Don't drink alcohol. Watch what you eat or at least just make sure it's diverse. Have fun. Stretch and breath.

I don't drink, or rather I don't drink anymore, I only had my first drink of alcohol when I was 20, and then for maybe 5 years, I drank a few drinks in the evening, only beer, but that didn't Wasn't given for me.. it makes me sick quickly, sometimes even a glass can give me a stomach ache or nausea, it puts me to sleep, and when I can barely see half of the glass, I sometimes have certain red patches that appear on my face with a warming sensation  so I found that I'm sort of intolerant to alcohol so I don't drink anymore !

[allucanfree4all]

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I read somewhere recently jogging is actually good for your knees as it builds them up to resist impact. Listen to your body of course, if something hurts don't keep pushing it. I've found for myself I feel best when I keep moving and skating, if I take a week off and be lazy I stiffen up.

[close]

I'd be surprised if this is true, everything I've read in the last 20 years basically says we shouldn't jog at all our bodies were designed to either run or walk. I guess if you make sure you do proper running technique the speed doesn't matter but many do a wired walking technique when jogging and it really fucks them up.
Also been reading too much cardio is bad for your heart which sounds wrong but in my experience could be correct. I was cardio king but then started having weird heart shit going on a couple years back. Prob just some confirmation bias type thing tho lol.

[close]

Never heard running is good for your knees either. I guess if you’re going to do it make sure your toes hit the ground before your heels. Same with just walking really, otherwise your heel is just driving all that weight/pressure straight into a locked knee/leg..

[close]

I think walking is ok to do slight heel first as it's not too much more impact than your general body weight. unfortunately with most shoe designs tho it's easy to heel thump either in your normal leather shoes/boots because the heel sticks out or runners etc people tend to like squishing the foam or airbubble whatever thinking that's what it's for.

Yeah, jogging sucks. Can't remember where I read this now, but if you're running slower than a ~5 min KM (~8 min. mile I think?) it's brutal on your joints and you're better off walking briskly. When you're going that slow, you're wasting energy bouncing up and down a lot which will wreck your knees, whereas when you run at a decent pace your energy is spent propelling you forward rather than up and down. I've found this to be true in my experience - cardio was decent from biking, swimming, skating etc, went on a couple slow 5K jogs without building up to it, had knee pain for like a year after.

If you want to get into running, start with alternating 30 second intervals of running with 90 seconds of walking (maintaining a 5 min/km pace), and as your cardio gets better move to 60/60 run/walk, then 90/30, etc. Then work your way up to a 5 min run, 8 min run, 10 min run as your cardio improves until you can maintain that pace indefinitely. There's an app I used call couch-to-5k or something.

There are also lots of differing opinions out there about running on toes vs heel-striking vs flat footed, but I think it's best to run however feels most natural to you. Obviously make sure you have appropriate footwear for your type of foot.

[Abyss1]

CONSISTENT SLEEP ...apparently this is what every top doctor says or has said, and stem cells

[Lenny the Fatface]

Transition skating
Manual pads
Yoga or mobility training
Strength training

Nothing too complicated, you just can’t be some drunk asshole anymore.

[Chris]

I’ve taken this year to really take care of my health. I’m 34 and work a laborious job that involves heavy lifting and have had issues with my body mostly due to skating.

Cycling - low impact (I’ve had knee surgery and ankles are kinda shit), fun and feel improvements pretty quickly. Try to get a trainer for the fall/winter months so you can keep up on it or just go to the gym.

Swimming - also low impact and fun. Also, after a day of skating never a bad idea to hit the pool, sauna, hot tub, cold shower cycle. It helps recovery as well.

Yoga/Stretching - mobility and strength for both before and after physical activities 

Jump Rope - try to do 20 mins on the weekend days whether I’m skating or not. Find it helps with impact and strengthening other muscles in the calves and thighs(start slow and work your way up)

Stopped drinking - personal choice but have noticed a difference within a couple of months and even more so now I’m at 7 months. I miss taking the edge off but it’s so worth it to feel good.

Diet - pretty self explanatory. Try not to eat shitty.

Cold shock therapy - every morning I turn that hot water completely off and go cold for around 2 minutes. It sucks every time but it does become a habit. Not sure if it’s actually helping or not but definitely helps me wake up and feel energized.

Walking - might sound dumb but my massage therapist whilst talking about good posture(it does make a big difference) told me to start walking to skate spots as it warms up your feet, ankles, knees, thighs as well as can be a good time to work on your posture. Noticed that has helped as well. Don’t feel rickety warming up on the board.
 
Not saying this will work for you but just things I took on and noticed made a difference. I could probably use some weight training to help but haven’t taken that on yet. Also, from time to time I still have issues with my body but recovery time is much much faster and time being able to skate has been extended for sure.

Tons of good advice in this thread by the way!

[sluggers]

Injections of young blood.

A sacrifice to JoBu every now and then.

[GAY]

Not skating is best for body longevity, so there's a good chance I'm going to live 4 evr.