Grim gets gnarred for explaining why libertarianism is nothing more than a swindle to get people to lose power, rather than to put it back in their hands.
ET, have you ever read any real anti-establishment historians? There are many that are not controlled by the government, and say some downright fucked up things about our history that the government actually doesn't want you to know. Stuff that makes sense, stuff that really happened that goes against the ideals of the establishment, while also not veering too far off into unprovable garbage that can only be defended by arguing that everybody who doesn't agree with you is ignorant. You obviously are interested in the below the surface stuff that his happened in our civilization, so why not look into more legitimate shit, and actually make your cynicism useful, instead of just finding out who the craziest of the crazy are, and just repeating what they say?
I was recently going over the History Of United States imperialism around the turn of the 20th century. We invaded Cuba based on a faked attack on a U.S. warship that was only near Cuba so that it could get attacked. We went into the Philippines claiming that we would make them an independent nation, and help them fight off Spain, but as soon as they helped us force Spain out, we turned our guns on them and claimed the land was ours. We ended up owning the Hawaiian Islands after a small group of corporate interests, particularly the Dole corporation held a coup and improperly used the U.S. Marines to overthrow the Hawaiian royal family. There is all sorts of fucked up, and verifiable, U.S. History to look at that is readily available to the public. It all makes the U.S. government look really bad, and can be applied to today's situation. We consistently use fake reasons to go to war, that's true, but you need to look at credible historians, who don't come up with these ridiculous theories and misquote monuments to FDR. Because when you use that as evidence, a person who actually has been looking for the truth in a serious way is just going to laugh at you, and you won't actually be able to figure out what is going on. If you look at independent history, you can realize that there is a lot of verifiable anti-government history.
Oh, and I've read tucker max and he seems like the type of guy some 13 year old would read and think "Soon, that will be me!"