Author Topic: Kingpin mag: interesting debate about spots (Read 1804 times)

floyd · « **on:** December 29, 2007, 04:03:04 AM »

http://www.kingpinmag.com/blogs/sem_rubio/interesting-debate-about-spots-what-you-think/

check it out what do you think...
does a spotlist make places blow up or not?

TheDraught · « **Reply #1 on:** December 29, 2007, 05:19:31 AM »

Mostly depends where you live. If you live in Manhattan, Barcelona or SD, yeah your spot might blow up. But if you live somewhere where skaters are few and far between, you'd maybe be happy to see some other skaters. But in general, I'd advise against it.

KoRnholio8 · « **Reply #2 on:** December 29, 2007, 05:59:09 AM »

i'm against it.

i believe they were talking about freeyourspot.com and i showed my stance about it by not posting a single news piece about it, whereas i do about pretty much any other bullshit...

i'm sorry to se puzzle backing this...

skaters should go out and looks for spots in their region - most types of terrain should be there somewhere - and new spots can be shared by word and not by some public announcement for the whole world. people that are interested enough will see the spot in the video and then aks around and maybe find it... you need to put some effort into it!

maybe a weird comparisson: what if drug addicts posted places where you could get high with no hassle... (i told you it would be a weird comparisson)

*BargainShopper* · « **Reply #3 on:** December 29, 2007, 08:19:45 AM »

i seldomely go to skate-rat infested spots
i find my own spots and take only a few people to them
i would be furious if one of my spots leaked out to a fucking magazine
why can't other people look for spots like we do?
I don't use a magazine as a map to the next spot and i'm pretty sure you don't either
complete bullshit

grimcity · « **Reply #4 on:** December 29, 2007, 08:53:08 AM »

It all depends on the spot... there are some spots that we've uncovered that got blown up that are completely straight (the business owners don't really care). In the Nike video, Ryan Watson (flow) does a flip to back nose blunt on a set of steps jutting out of a slight bank... a couple of us discovered it and gave it it's first waxing (that we know of), and now all the BR heads hit it... to see it on video was sick. It's the kind of spot that people should know about.

Then there are spots that are sensitive... there's an amazing ditch very close to Hammond, and we try to keep it on the dl in general conversation because of the cops in the town that the ditch is located in. We'll bring anyone to it, but we won't post directions to it because the town would probably render it unskateable, ruining it for everyone. Also, the ditch has its own locals in the town, and it wouldn't be fair of us to blow up what isn't ours.

I think it's good to keep spot semi-secret. I couldn't deny another skater the opportunity to ride something that we've found, but I wouldn't post directions to it on the web, either.

biggums mcgee · « **Reply #5 on:** December 29, 2007, 09:39:49 AM »

it really depends on the scene, is it mostly dudes who would fuck around and render the spot a bust, or just other guys looking for a dope new spot to have fun?

WonkaBar · « **Reply #6 on:** December 29, 2007, 09:46:53 AM »

my only experience is that theres a spot in PJWHL and a couple other videos that got kind of popular and like one of the guys said, drew attention from the residents and cops. skaters left trash and fucked up the spot so that the next time i skated there, there was running involved. eventually they stopped the spot and it looked to be for good. after a while it became apparent it was on me to unstop it, i did so.....twice, and its been a little more chill since then.

in review i had nobody to blame but the dudes that filmed the spot, and they had the perfect right to go, skate and film. but after nobody thought the spot was an option anymore, and i had it to myself, i wasnt telling it on the mountains that everyone could go skate there again.

natenola · « **Reply #7 on:** December 29, 2007, 09:50:56 AM »

if you work hard and find a spot you have every right to keep it a secret, first to keep it skateable second you don't want every lazy upcoming idoit driving to your area to leave there mark on it.
If its a basic spot that prolly won't get shut down then let people know and make it a fun thing.

grimcity · « **Reply #8 on:** December 29, 2007, 09:57:12 AM »

Quote from: natenola on December 29, 2007, 09:50:56 AM

if you work hard and find a spot you have every right to keep it a secret, first to keep it skateable second you don't want every lazy upcoming idoit driving to your area to leave there mark on it.
If its a basic spot that prolly won't get shut down then let people know and make it a fun thing.

^
I have $5 that says that Nate has more secret spots in his head than anyone currently reading this.

bentmode · « **Reply #9 on:** December 29, 2007, 11:02:20 AM »

sigh, spots.........

DrNewton · « **Reply #10 on:** December 29, 2007, 12:18:23 PM »

Posting spots online is a great idea. It allows every single lurk ass bitch that's been skating for two years and has a VX1000 within the state to come and treat the place like it's a skatepark.

"Oh, theres a spot downtown? I think I'll go and skate it on the middle of the day, on a Tuesday."

"I went to your new spot you posted online, and the security guard politely asked me to leave. So I talked shit and acted like I was going to fight him, and then ran off and posted the video on YouTube."

"I liked that video of that spot you posted. It's nice that the owner is so cool about skating. I think I will graffiti the building."

Yep. Definately the "greater good."

MikeyPioggia · « **Reply #11 on:** December 29, 2007, 12:24:58 PM »

Quote from: DrNewton on December 29, 2007, 12:18:23 PM

Posting spots online is a great idea. It allows every single lurk ass bitch that's been skating for two years and has a VX1000 within the state to come and treat the place like it's a skatepark.

"Oh, theres a spot downtown? I think I'll go and skate it on the middle of the day, on a Tuesday."

"I went to your new spot you posted online, and the security guard politely asked me to leave. So I talked shit and acted like I was going to fight him, and then ran off and posted the video on YouTube."

"I liked that video of that spot you posted. It's nice that the owner is so cool about skating. I think I will graffiti the building."

Yep. Definately the "greater good."

so true

grimcity · « **Reply #12 on:** December 29, 2007, 01:03:56 PM »

Damn, Doc... nail on the head.

Bill · « **Reply #13 on:** December 29, 2007, 01:51:12 PM »

Quote from: grimcity on December 29, 2007, 01:03:56 PM

Damn, Doc... nail on the head.

wjphoto · « **Reply #14 on:** December 29, 2007, 02:09:23 PM »

it's a tough call. i uncapped a ledge that so many people in my area had been bitching about for years, how it was so great and how so much shit went down and the things they (the new guys) would do to it. i uncap the damn ledge and within a week's time there were 3 different shop's stickers all over the ledge as well as "tags" from idiot graffiti "artists". it sucks because now the ledge is always under close watch from the people who live in the building and the cops are on us almost every time.

Cliffzilla · « **Reply #15 on:** December 29, 2007, 02:24:50 PM »

Quote from: DrNewton on December 29, 2007, 12:18:23 PM

Posting spots online is a great idea. It allows every single lurk ass bitch that's been skating for two years and has a VX1000 within the state to come and treat the place like it's a skatepark.

"Oh, theres a spot downtown? I think I'll go and skate it on the middle of the day, on a Tuesday."

"I went to your new spot you posted online, and the security guard politely asked me to leave. So I talked shit and acted like I was going to fight him, and then ran off and posted the video on YouTube."

"I liked that video of that spot you posted. It's nice that the owner is so cool about skating. I think I will graffiti the building."

Yep. Definately the "greater good."

Fuck. This shit right here. But I guess you just gotta be selective when you tell someone about a spot. "Is this guy a douchebag?" "Is he smart enough to know not to go there in the daytime?" I only know of one or two "secret" spots, but my town isn't big enough for anything like crazy to happen to it if I was to tell some random dude about it(stickers, graffitti, whatever). Not enough skateboarders I suppose.

ciaran · « **Reply #16 on:** December 29, 2007, 02:40:25 PM »

I can fully relate to that one wjphoto. Worst part is that when you say anything to these same idiots, they get on the defensive and make daft insinuations that you're down with the police or security or whatever. Spot etiquette should be browbeaten into every kid from the first day they pick up a board. I can't stand going to a spot to see dudes smashing bottles, littering, abusing passers-by and being all-round wankshafts purely because it's not their front room. Worse yet is going to a foreign country and seeing visiting skaters act like every other gobshite on piss-up holidays to Ibiza/Benidorm/etc. abusing locals, being general cunts and the like and thinking they can get away with it because they're on holidays and they're skaters - one time I heard one dude shout back at some local "What are you going to do about it? We're skaters..." WTF??? Shit like that fucks it all up for everyone when local people equate skaters, foreign or local, with everything that's wrong in their city.

Getting back to the matter at hand, it is a hard one, it really does come down to what city you're talking about too - there's a few sites I've seen divulging spots in Paris, Berlin, etc. Both are pretty chilled in regards to skating, but neither have the saturation of spots, favourable climate or cheap cost of living that Barcelona has. Fair enough if the spots on such websites are the main skate all day spots which you get a lot in Europe anyway, but I'd take that as just a starting point when visiting to go out and see what else I can find. Slap published a spot map for SF in 96, which came in handy for me the following year, but I can't say if that had a bad effect on the SF locals at the time. Granted, a lot of problems with spots getting overrun are down to regular kids and the wannabe fake gangstaz who think they're better than everybody when it comes to posting footage of fights with security or just using your brain before skating certain spots like offices or apartment plazas.

jf · « **Reply #17 on:** December 30, 2007, 01:17:18 AM »

i wouldnt hold anything back, if you want to come to portland or seattle you can have any spot you want to skate, i could care less

BROKILLA · « **Reply #18 on:** December 30, 2007, 01:26:20 AM »

it doesnt matter. i live in a city that is home to about 20 spots i garentee youve seen in videos from Yeah Right, Forcast and FullyFlared. theres kids at all these spots everyday, everyone knows how to get to them, when you think its "BLOWN OUT" the dudes who can really hold it down shed new light on a spot and all those other tricks that were dropped on it dont really matter ....... but who cares really, skating aint about if spots are played out or not, its about the style, personality and originality someone brings to that spot.

NickDagger · « **Reply #19 on:** December 30, 2007, 01:35:05 AM »

Quote from: DrNewton on December 29, 2007, 12:18:23 PM

Posting spots online is a great idea. It allows every single lurk ass bitch that's been skating for two years and has a VX1000 within the state to come and treat the place like it's a skatepark.

"Oh, theres a spot downtown? I think I'll go and skate it on the middle of the day, on a Tuesday."

"I went to your new spot you posted online, and the security guard politely asked me to leave. So I talked shit and acted like I was going to fight him, and then ran off and posted the video on YouTube."

"I liked that video of that spot you posted. It's nice that the owner is so cool about skating. I think I will graffiti the building."

Yep. Definately the "greater good."

For once, you're correct.

metsuri · « **Reply #20 on:** December 30, 2007, 04:23:51 AM »

It's kind of like organizing bus-trips to Macba; It's just not right. You go to a new city, go to a skate shop, ask around, you'll find spots. If you don't know how to do that, you probably shouldn't be going anyway.

And while they're at it, some place like LA, why don't they start selling maps to pros' homes. You can go check out what kind of a car Koston drives or some shit.

Sleazy · « **Reply #21 on:** December 30, 2007, 06:51:13 AM »

if there is something that talks about spots it needs to be run locally, IMO. when i went to atlanta i got a link from one of the living sick guys that showed pictures of spots from all over their city. there were no directions but it made it easy for me to see what they had and then call the guy who gave me the link and ask for directions. i was pretty stoked that they had something like that and were nice enough to share it with me but i can't help but think that a site that was called AtlantaSkateSpots and listed every spot with directions might end up causing more harm than good in the way Dr Newton described with dumb kids going to spots at the wrong times with an attitude like they are filming for Baker and not for some crappy homie video.

Shawn · « **Reply #22 on:** December 30, 2007, 07:14:10 AM »

let me say that i think the site would be stupid. if it has directions to the famous spots that kids would be going to skate anyway if they were in a different country, then yeah, who cares? but for it to have every little nugget ass spot would be ridiculous. like the dude said, kids will probably be bouncing around anyways thus making spots less "crowdy".

Author Topic: Kingpin mag: interesting debate about spots (Read 1804 times)

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