haha, i wouldnt pick up an album frrom any of those bands, but they are better than everything else that is on the radio from what i can gather. remember that smashing pumpkins band zwan, that shit was fucking terrible. i dont even like radioheads new shit either.
obviously the better stuff is the underground shit, thats how its been since like 80 when madonna dropped. ever since image marketing hit music like that shit hasnt been the same it hasnt been about talent. thats why the 70s actually had really good famous musicians, you actually had to be good to be able to get a deal in the first place and even go to be able to record the shit.