new Ty Evans interview on Pretty Sweet

[whoami]

Pretty sure Heath skated to Butthole Surfers cover of Hurdy Gurdy Man

[ben shraider]

well, Deathwish is gonna be tight! straight VX with some hijinx instead of SUPERMEGAHD journalistic BS. I dont mind Pretty Sweet that much, but it definitely has a pushed vibe to it. Ill feel what i wanna feel goddammit!

Deathwish and all the other baker crap doesn't have a pushed vibe?? I love them but they have a pushed vibe just as much as any pretty sweet, palace, or most of the videos

[ben shraider]

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 you think beagle is a GOOD film maker? anyone with a camera and a computer can do what he does

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if you really believe this than you have no fucking idea how filmmaking works. Forget skate videos, editing is 70% of what makes any good movie worth watching. Filming is only one part of a much bigger picture.

Its not that hard to edit shit together like in the baker vids... You just need to be a little nerdy and willing to spend lots of time to perfect it. Bad filming can fuck up a skate vid way worse than a bad edit.

[KillerStokagebroface]

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well, Deathwish is gonna be tight! straight VX with some hijinx instead of SUPERMEGAHD journalistic BS. I dont mind Pretty Sweet that much, but it definitely has a pushed vibe to it. Ill feel what i wanna feel goddammit!

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Deathwish and all the other baker crap doesn't have a pushed vibe?? I love them but they have a pushed vibe just as much as any pretty sweet, palace, or most of the videos

Yes,
no matter the company the main goal is to slang product,
no rules, some have a better style to accomplishing this-- others dont have the same clout and dont even have those same opportunities,,

will a skate company advertise in their new video to gain more clients- yes
Did it really prevent any of the skaters from doing their thing- no
Go shoot your own video the way you like,.skate the future its 2013.

[Zurg]

when a girl/chocolate video only comes out approximately once a decade, id prefer to bond with my uncle over some other shit.

its cool that hes honest about it, but saying he made the video for his own aesthetic, it almost comes off selfish when he has that crew of skaters and theyre not putting out tons of footage for the most part. i realize that me expecting anything from a skateboard company is equally or more selfish, but im on slap. and im also aware that the edit is a big part of the video, but when you already have a aesthetic people enjoy and the skating to back it up, why fuck with it?

"I think there?s things in there that people who don?t skateboard could watch and be that cheese on the mousetrap that draws them in"

at least hes aware, i guess

[SKATE DAD]

Only a couple questions in, but I can easily say Ty's vision of skateboarding IS wrong.

His reason for making the video not only for skateboarders sounded real fucking kooky to me.

[1978]

I really hope the Vans video blows my tits off.

Ty is a fuck knuckle.

[CossRooper]

I?ve skated with Brian Anderson forever, done 3 videos with him and I?ve never been able to capture what it?s like skating with him. But if I look at like Vincent?s part, you feel that sketchiness. That goes back to the editing being regular all over the place, and he?s swerving everywhere. All the shots of him falling on the ground, flying out onto the street, the cars, how it?s edited super fast and sketchy ? it feels like a mess. That?s what it feels like skating with him.

And with Cory?s part, it?s the polar opposite, it?s him smiling, having fun, and the song is smooth. Those two parts really feel like those two individuals. That?s what?s really cool about it, where a lot of that stuff people complain about? I don?t know would you rather just see trick trick trick of Cory Kennedy? Yeah? I feel like that?s what a lot of people might feel like, but I wouldn?t. That?s why I put in that stuff. I?m sure some people understand it and some people don?t. But if they want, they are free to come by my house and I can explain what every shot means to me in my warped world.

I can at least jive with him on this: the editing on those parts really gave me some sort of a different impression/mood of each skater. The Vince/Cory parts in particular really seem to capture it. I felt that after the first view.

That said, many other parts were totally ineffective in that regard... what the shit was Mike Mo's part even? And Guy's part is essentially unwatchable to me due to the editing and song.

[KoRnholio8]

Why the fuck would you make a skate video for anyone but skateboarders?

$$$

[Tuna]

I don't know who the guy was that Ty hired to film Pops, or how well they knew each other/got along etc, but I don't see Pops to be the kind of person that would just call up some dude he's just met to go film every day if he doesn't feel comfortable doing so with him.

[Seamus_McShamebag]

I don't know who the guy was that Ty hired to film Pops, or how well they knew each other/got along etc, but I don't see Pops to be the kind of person that would just call up some dude he's just met to go film every day if he doesn't feel comfortable doing so with him.

He wouldn't care, the social awkwardness would be lost on him since he's been diagnosed with Aspergers*.

*Source: Confirmed but I couldn't empathize with source's body language to tell if source was joking.

[hekkahyphy]

I don't know who the guy was that Ty hired to film Pops, or how well they knew each other/got along etc, but I don't see Pops to be the kind of person that would just call up some dude he's just met to go film every day if he doesn't feel comfortable doing so with him.

im more surprised they hired a guy and gave him 12000 dollars (at least) orth of equipment.

and anyone that didnt see the significance of Guy puking at least is retarted. noones ever tried a trick in the heat that long before??

[mooraga]

I don't remember spike being so hyped on high fives on this one...


no words about calloway?

[Box of Frogs]

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 you think beagle is a GOOD film maker? anyone with a camera and a computer can do what he does

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if you really believe this than you have no fucking idea how filmmaking works. Forget skate videos, editing is 70% of what makes any good movie worth watching. Filming is only one part of a much bigger picture.

Haha! Get it? Ty is making skatepictures instead of skatevideos (or skate"films"? Is that Magenta and Palace?). Well played sir

[The Ghost of Lenny Kirk]

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 you think beagle is a GOOD film maker? anyone with a camera and a computer can do what he does

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if you really believe this than you have no fucking idea how filmmaking works. Forget skate videos, editing is 70% of what makes any good movie worth watching. Filming is only one part of a much bigger picture.

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Its not that hard to edit shit together like in the baker vids... You just need to be a little nerdy and willing to spend lots of time to perfect it. Bad filming can fuck up a skate vid way worse than a bad edit.

You could say that about pretty much anything tho, even ty evans' filming.

[Sneaker-Central]

I really like the hi-5/smile aspect of it all. It gave it more of an identity? Maybe thats not the right word, maybe a more human element rather than just trick after trick after trick.

One of my favorite shots is when Jeron/Beibel's part ends and he rides up to the camera slow mo, pounds on his chest, and justin eldridge comes up to high five him or whatever. Not only is it cool because it could be Jeron's last part, but its just more of a "man, I'm hyped for this dude" type of thing.

[Ernie McCracken]

Cory skating to Hurdy Gurdy man? Kenny skating to Faces instead of shitty Justice?? oh what could have been..

Like someone else said, it is sad that the first girl video since '03 has already kind of faded out in just two months. The final product was not one set up for the long term and becoming a classic. It came out with a bang catching the attention of the casual viewer, but in a way isolated  the ones who buy skate videos to watch over and over again for years. Which is something i find myself not doing with Pretty Sweet.

I understand Ty wanting to progress but it seems like he (and the other cooks in the kitchen) took a huge leap and experimented too much with one of the biggest skate videos. Let the insane tricks show the progression, not the hectic editing.

[waltercronkite]

I. still. like pretty sweet

[paraquat]

Mouse was awesome.

[jacktharipper]

Anyone who is good at editing anything will tell you the same thing; good editing is seamless. I'm pretty centrist on the whole HD vs. VX issue, but there needs to be HD footage presented in a way that VX footage is presented. What I mean is just because something is filmed high def doesn't mean you need super slo-mo, helicopter cameras and high fives. Just film a video, with the right angles (including fisheye use), and really think about the soundtrack.

To those defending Ty because he wants to "progress his craft", I don't disagree with wanting to improve, but I do disagree with violating what I would almost describe as sanctity of a Girl video. Those videos are supposed to be timeless...

[blankbutbranded]

Ty is like the Michael Bay of skate videos.

He's doin it.

All markets and all love...that's still a magnets for core and posers skateboarders, hey what's wrong with it ?

[The Suits]

i also feel like ty evans is the michael bay of skateboard videos.  i like some michael bay movies.  i like ty and transworld, even ty and rhythm. but if michael bay made a sequel to the princess bride i'd probably be bummed on it.  i don't think dr dre would be the best producer for an operation ivy album.   it's just not the right match.  part of the problem seems to be that ty makes the video he wants to.  greg hunt didn't try to make another dc video for alien workshop.  he tried to fit it to the framework they had already laid down.
and showing people get hit by cars and slamming (on tricks they make in the throwaway-i know vincent does) probably doesn't make non skateboarders want to skateboard.   making it look like we knock over old ladies isn't doing skateboarding any favors.

[AnotherHardDayAtTheOffice]

Anyone who is good at editing anything will tell you the same thing; good editing is seamless. I'm pretty centrist on the whole HD vs. VX issue, but there needs to be HD footage presented in a way that VX footage is presented. What I mean is just because something is filmed high def doesn't mean you need super slo-mo, helicopter cameras and high fives. Just film a video, with the right angles (including fisheye use), and really think about the soundtrack.

To those defending Ty because he wants to "progress his craft", I don't disagree with wanting to improve, but I do disagree with violating what I would almost describe as sanctity of a Girl video. Those videos are supposed to be timeless...

This.

However, I think some parts in Pretty Sweet are in fact edited like that (seamlessly I mean). Marc Johnson's part is probably the most obvious example. Jesus' and Chico's split part as well. I might be a minority but I've always seen the sketchiness of Vincent's skating in his part. In that respect, the editing worked pretty well in my eyes although it was far from seamless in the narrow sense of the term.

That being said, to me it seems like there's been a lack of improvement since Yeah Right (and Fully Flared) in some ways. The cameo appearances were sub-par at best compared to Owen Wilson and the businessman/suit/downtown LA (what was it supposed to be anyway?) montage felt really out of place and artificial. Also, as has been pointed out a million times already, the soundtrack and extensive slow-mos gave an awkward feel to the whole video.

All in all, Ty has done some pretty good work for Crailtap over all those years (especially Yeah Right and Hot Chocolate) and has pretty much been their stepping stone away from their mere "LA school yard aesthetic" (as awesome as it was AT THE TIME). However, it seems like it's come to a point where parting ways is the best thing to do for both parties. Crailtap's just not the perfect place for a videographer to produce skate"movies" for non-skaters...