proper slider rail placement

[alka-seltzer]

i've only had one pair of slider rails before (about 15 years ago) and can't remember the best spacing for them. do i leave a little graphic area exposed or make it so its fully boardsliding on just the plastic. sorry if there is already a topic. thanks in advance.

[shitpoop]

its all up to yoU! i personally put them at like the edges of the board, with 1" of space from the edge. it makes it so then the rail has 3 contact points......the middle of the board, and the 2 rails. I find that it helps me slide with a reasonable speed (since the board is making contact in the middle) and it "locks me in" to the slide.

[tom]

No, that sounds about right and it's normal. Rails aren't meant to protect graphics of course. When sliding if both rails and the lowest point in the concave are all making contact then you have more stability and lock in to the coping as if the bottom of your board is flat.

There's not really a standard or correct placement. I always eyeballed it depending on the board's concave, and it's been over 10 years since riding rails, but I think I drilled the screws somewhere around 0.75" in from the side. Basically, I tried to get the inner-side of the rails right around where my fingertips would naturally catch them when doing basic grabs; a frontside air feels so good when your fingers wrap around the rail.

Too close to the edge doesn't make sense but too far in and they're not functional (even counter-functional).

You're gonna get marks unless you use those NOS Vision ones that are chunky as all fuck, and even then, once they wear down you'll hit your board. Generally as a rule. i use from the tip of my thumb to the end of the nail as a drilling point usually works out too be about 10mm from the end of the board, id also advice getting some better screws than the ones provided, ive broken so many of those its not funny. Two rails seem too be a little to slick for my liking too, i only put one on toe side bur ive seen a million variations, two on one side, heated with a lighter and bent too angles, mini rails that are like 5 inch long. just mess about until you find what works for you

[Xen]

Depends on three things:

Are you saving graphics?

Are you looking to slide?

Are you suing them to help with grabbing on airs?

[Wizard Fight]

So I think the idea behind rails and placement as far as sliding goes is to place them so the board sits flat on the sliding surface, or if you have just your deck on the ground, the board will be flat.

I feel like I'm stumbling over my words, but by 'flat' i mean that when the deck alone is on the ground, without rails the deck would be able to rock side to side due to the concave (convex if you're talking about the bottom of the board). I've placed rails as far apart as possible while they still prevent the deck from rocking back and forth.

But in all honesty, whatever you want to do works, and I actually only rock one rail on my toeside edge. Two rails are just too slick for me, but I like the rail for bonelesses, and sometimes I'll ride my board backwards so I can grab onto the rail when doing early grabs with a melon grab or beanplants.

QUESTION - What kind of screws do any of you rail-users use? The stock screws I've had don't work especially well for me, especially the Powell screws (or maybe it's the design of the rail, or a combination of both). The screws will rip out or strip and the rail will come loose or fall off, and make a lot more rattling noise while riding.

[Paco Supreme]

^^ i usually just get some quality wood screws from a hardware store, be sure they fit though, nothing worse then buying a pack and finding the head of the screw is bulky, i grabbed a handful from an opened pack too test out, super strong and held much better than powell ones, those plain suck

[dillanharp]

Maybe it's your effeminate wrists. Stock screws work fine. Use some super glue if you want.

[144p]

I just set this board and rails up on friday, i set them in about 1.5 inches, to me it's perfect for the boardslide/hurricane combo stuff and the middle of my board doesn't rub from the concave being deep.
As for rails tearing out, the taller ones like powell do tend to rip out easier, which is why I use the pig ones.
They don't last as long but they don't have that issue for me.

[Paco Supreme]

I can never seem too tell if pig ones are double square edged or is it like the old thin ribs with one rounded one straight?

[shark tits]

the proper placement of rails is the 1980s

[pandarelated]

the proper placement of rails is the 1980s

blerp derp slurp. awesome

anywhos. this whole question freaks me out. there is no proper way to put on rails. and if there was. no one should do it that way.
it just seems. against skateboarding

[yourfuckingdad]

What are these for?

[Wizard Fight]

Maybe it's your effeminate wrists. Stock screws work fine. Use some super glue if you want.

MAYBE YOU'RE A FUCKING IDIOT

[dillanharp]

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Maybe it's your effeminate wrists. Stock screws work fine. Use some super glue if you want.

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MAYBE YOU'RE A FUCKING IDIOT

Sure thing Suzy.

[oldgoodburger]

i've always (the two times i've set them up on a board) align them with the wheels. seems to be efficient.

[kneebone]

Been noticing a trend lately of people using only one rail.  What's the deal with this?

[Paco Supreme]

Been noticing a trend lately of people using only one rail.  What's the deal with this?

it's been brought up a lot already. but in my case at least two rails is too slick, one rail works wonders. some like it for grabs, some just do it because it has indeed become a trend

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

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Been noticing a trend lately of people using only one rail.  What's the deal with this?

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it's been brought up a lot already. but in my case at least two rails is too slick, one rail works wonders. some like it for grabs, some just do it because it has indeed become a trend

albeit a very old (early 90's) trend

[Paco Supreme]

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Been noticing a trend lately of people using only one rail.  What's the deal with this?

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it's been brought up a lot already. but in my case at least two rails is too slick, one rail works wonders. some like it for grabs, some just do it because it has indeed become a trend

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albeit a very old (early 90's) trend

even back into the 80s if i remember right, j jessee used too always rock one rail. i think i saw a photo of jason lee doing it too. the early 90s was probably rife with it too though

[shark tits]

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Been noticing a trend lately of people using only one rail.  What's the deal with this?

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it's been brought up a lot already. but in my case at least two rails is too slick, one rail works wonders. some like it for grabs, some just do it because it has indeed become a trend

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albeit a very old (early 90's) trend

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even back into the 80s if i remember right, j jessee used too always rock one rail. i think i saw a photo of jason lee doing it too. the early 90s was probably rife with it too though

yes the 90s was rife w/ it. we referred to our single rails as 'everslick' for some reason, i don't know why.

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

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Been noticing a trend lately of people using only one rail.  What's the deal with this?

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it's been brought up a lot already. but in my case at least two rails is too slick, one rail works wonders. some like it for grabs, some just do it because it has indeed become a trend

[close]

albeit a very old (early 90's) trend

[close]

even back into the 80s if i remember right, j jessee used too always rock one rail. i think i saw a photo of jason lee doing it too. the early 90s was probably rife with it too though

[close]

yes the 90s was rife w/ it. we referred to our single rails as 'everslick' for some reason, i don't know why.

i probs should have said late 80s/ early 90s
i used to love the way your graphics scratched when you only had one rail

[Spitfire4life]

Been noticing a trend lately of people using only one rail.  What's the deal with this?

It's a little more stable on coping and rails. I like one on my toe side, slick enough to slide, but not too bad.