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Re: Throwing your back out doing stupid stuff
« Reply #30 on: February 09, 2021, 07:42:40 PM »
I've had two bad back injuries. Both came on from what some people mentioned - lack of stretching/muscle/too much sitting with bad posture.

It's been a while since I have had any problems but I regularly stretch, do planks, and squats(because I realized a lot of my problems seemed to come from my hips/upper legs) to try my best to make sure it doesn't happen again.

Back pain is the most humbling thing and I wouldn't wish it upon anyone, except all the people that have wronged me in my life

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Re: Throwing your back out doing stupid stuff
« Reply #31 on: February 09, 2021, 09:24:31 PM »
Threw my back out moving around a little launch ramp. Couldn’t do any physical activity a little more than 1/2 of 2020. The quarantine is terrible and all but it was perfect timing for me actually.   :P

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Re: Throwing your back out doing stupid stuff
« Reply #32 on: February 09, 2021, 09:29:23 PM »
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Threw my back out sneezing, as mentioned above, during a time in my life I was doing heated yoga 2-3 nights a week!

ya, yoga is dope and I credit 12 years of practice/study as well as 500+hrs of teacher training with helping restore my body to a healthy level of functioning but I can't get behind the general yoga cure all thing. All bodies are vastly different and require different supports and asana instruction for it to be truly beneficial. but I'm not gonna knock anyones experience, I just feel that while there is some sort of physical yoga that everyone can practice, it's not so cut and dry. I think a lot of us older skaters with janky bodies need to be working with restorative yoga in that sense that it's literally the practice of restoring bodily health, before messing around with all the standing asana practice. yoga is always going to be here, might as well work it slow and with intention. just my 2cents.

I was gonna comment on lower back issues and ask if any of y'all with low back, hip, thigh, knee issues, and unexplained limps are familiar with the psoas major muscles? They're these long, very deep (deepest core muscles) muscles that start around Thoracic 5 and connect down the lumbar spine, wrap over the hip/pelvis, joins the illiacus in your groin and connects at the femur. The psoas allow you to walk, lift your legs, bend at the waist, stabilize the core while sitting and standing.

Psoas conditions manifest in many different ways, it can appear that your legs are different lengths. A tight side pulls your pelvis forward, causing internal rotation of the knee which can only cause the foot to rotate externally to keep balance. How many of us have that big external ankle rotation on our pop/push foot? When the psoas is locked short/tight, the femur gets fixed in place inside the ball of the hip, subsequently making one leg seem shorter than the other, causing a slight limp, and freezes pelvic mobility. A tight psoas can coexist with but also mimic so many other issues, especially herniations, sciatica, and knee problems.

If you think this applies, an interesting way to take a gander is to stand naturally in front of a mirror, without a shirt on. Pay attention to your waist/hips and try to notice if one is further forward than the other. In my case, my right hip tends to pull forward, almost lifting the foot from the floor. I've spent a lot of time working on getting it back to an anatomical baseline and it's been a great success.

There are exercises for supposedly strengthening the psoas, but it's important to release the psoas first. I had told some pals I'd make a foot care yoga video and a back care one and they're one the way, but I can throw up a super quick video for psoas nerve glides that I've already made, tomorrow if anyone thinks it's relevant. True nerve glides are super easy and take less than 5 minutes per day.

but ya, the stupidest thing I've done to throw my back out was wearing bad shoes/boots.
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Re: Throwing your back out doing stupid stuff
« Reply #33 on: February 09, 2021, 10:07:03 PM »
Yo! @IusedToSkateMore all that was super interesting. I am interested in the psoas nerve glide video - I would like to see if my psoas are super tight or not haha

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Re: Throwing your back out doing stupid stuff
« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2021, 07:05:24 AM »
I threw my lower back learning rock-fakie! My back was already sketchy because my bed and mattress were funky.  Just *one* try at rock-fakie on a small transition, my body and brain were so clueless it was comical except for the severe lower back injury.  5 weeks of barely being able to move, 2 more weeks of returning to normal.

2nd time I dropped into a small transition on a new setup with new, hard bushings and tweaked my lower back but was back after 2 weeks.

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Re: Throwing your back out doing stupid stuff
« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2021, 07:28:29 AM »
I sneezed while putting on my back pack last year and it completely fucked my lower back for a week lol. I'm talking it hurt me to do more than just lay in bed all day. Bodies are awesome.

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Re: Throwing your back out doing stupid stuff
« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2021, 07:56:59 AM »
Str8 up I schell herb to pay dey bills but my side hustle is moving.

I would never work for a moving company but it’s a good friend of mine who runs it. Pays 20 an hour cash under the table everyday. Make my own schedule. Smoke weed in the truck all day etc.

Anyway somehow we got talked into moving this giant gun safe for a customer as a flat rate of $500 bucks(split 5 ways between us) ontop of his regular move. The deal was to move it from the basement at old place to garage of new place.

All we had to do was get it on a dolly and push it up a hill as the basement had sliding glass doors. The hill was muddy from snow melting.

We got about halfway up and the guy on the right in the picture who was holding the dolly slipped. I was on the side helping pull. I had to squat and put my knees under the safe while using all of my strength to keep this thing from crushing my homie while he tried to pick himself back up.

I have some tightness in my right hip that I’ve been slowing taking care of with yoga and ice. I got an x ray and they said everything looks fine. Haven’t skated or worked in like a week. Sorry for long story haha




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Re: Throwing your back out doing stupid stuff
« Reply #37 on: February 10, 2021, 08:03:53 AM »
yo i sell so much weed i pay all my bills off it, here’s a photo of me with a story confirming that the photo is me

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Re: Throwing your back out doing stupid stuff
« Reply #38 on: February 10, 2021, 08:14:13 AM »
yo i sell so much weed i pay all my bills off it, here’s a photo of me with a story confirming that the photo is me

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« Reply #39 on: February 10, 2021, 08:18:18 AM »
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Re: Throwing your back out doing stupid stuff
« Reply #40 on: February 10, 2021, 08:19:55 AM »
Damn it feels good to be a sk8r

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Re: Throwing your back out doing stupid stuff
« Reply #41 on: February 10, 2021, 12:00:45 PM »
Yo! @IusedToSkateMore all that was super interesting. I am interested in the psoas nerve glide video - I would like to see if my psoas are super tight or not haha

Second to this. Any videos or advice is greatly appreciated. Hip and hamstring mobility/stretching would be good too. One of my lingering issues stemming from my back problems is a tight hip flexor and hamstring. So tight and painful that I can’t even sit at a 90 degree angle, let alone start bending forward to touch my toes.

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Re: Throwing your back out doing stupid stuff
« Reply #42 on: February 10, 2021, 12:02:38 PM »
I threw out my back learning slappy feebles and that's the oldest I've ever felt in my entire life

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Re: Throwing your back out doing stupid stuff
« Reply #43 on: February 10, 2021, 01:19:47 PM »
Anyway somehow we got talked into moving this giant gun safe for a customer as a flat rate of $500 bucks(split 5 ways between us) ontop of his regular move. The deal was to move it from the basement at old place to garage of new place.

I'm actually quite fascinated by this and would love to hear more.

What was the negotiation process like? What were your initial thoughts upon seeing this monstrosity? Were you like, "$100? I need more than that." What kind of arsenal does he have that necessitates that thing (surely he emptied it first, did you get to look inside)? Were you high when you helped move this thing (I would have preferred to have been sober)? Were you high when you considered moving it? Did anyone offer to assist with your medical bills? Was the guy who slipped grateful? Have you learned any lessons from this experience?

I mean, this is just...wow.
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Re: Throwing your back out doing stupid stuff
« Reply #44 on: February 10, 2021, 04:36:49 PM »
I crushed a disc jumping off a sand dune cursing me with a life of pain.

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Re: Throwing your back out doing stupid stuff
« Reply #45 on: February 21, 2021, 10:03:36 AM »
I helped my partner's homie move an upright piano the other week. I was feeling it for almost two weeks and smoking alot of weed and sleeping. it got better. i already have scoliosis so i have to be careful anyway. it really made me want to get in better shape. lack of core strength and just being irresponsible screwed me.

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Re: Throwing your back out doing stupid stuff
« Reply #46 on: February 21, 2021, 10:05:50 AM »
Man I have too many to count, don’t even really remember exactly what stupid stuff I did but from age 19-29 my back would go out 3-4 times a year to where I couldn’t skate for a month and I would have to use a cane or an old person walker just to get to my bathroom.
I’ve had to spend 5-10 minutes crawling out of the bed and crawling to the bathroom and it would be extremely hard to wipe my ass but luckily I never had to ha e anyone wipe my ass for me.
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Re: Throwing your back out doing stupid stuff
« Reply #47 on: February 21, 2021, 11:05:54 AM »
One of the worst times I threw out my back was when I was about to wipe my ass. I bent over and had the worst back spasm I’ve ever had. I stayed on the toilet for about half an hour before I could get up. It was proper jammed for a week.

My neck is now starting to feel better because a month ago I passed out on the couch real stoned and spent most of the night there. 

It fucking sucks. When it happens I use a rubber massage ball and stretch as much as my back allows me to. That’s about all I can do, the rest is time. Really warm epson salt baths help also.

If you can find a good massage therapist who specializes in deep tissue massage, it’s a good investment. It hurts like a bitch but it loosens you up nicely after.

Back pain sucks, it’s been following me for over 15 years.

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« Reply #48 on: February 21, 2021, 12:16:17 PM »
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Yo! @IusedToSkateMore all that was super interesting. I am interested in the psoas nerve glide video - I would like to see if my psoas are super tight or not haha
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Second to this. Any videos or advice is greatly appreciated. Hip and hamstring mobility/stretching would be good too. One of my lingering issues stemming from my back problems is a tight hip flexor and hamstring. So tight and painful that I can’t even sit at a 90 degree angle, let alone start bending forward to touch my toes.

I'm wondering if anyone here has used the pso-rite? From what I've seen and heard it works wonders. I just bought one myself because I've noticed my back has been super tight recently, thought it was worth it.

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Re: Throwing your back out doing stupid stuff
« Reply #49 on: February 21, 2021, 12:57:05 PM »
YOOOOOOOO

I would throw my back out about twice a year. The last time was from not skating for a while then running and jumping over a puddle. I was literally laying on the ground with back spasms for two days, then I found this video



at about 3:15 is the exercise, it's a sort of laying-on-your-side-leg-lift, which sounds silly, but it alleviated my pain after about ten minutes, and by the next day I was at about 80%

I cannot stress how much this exercise helped me. I can tell when my back is starting to get weak, and when I do, I do about 2 reps of 10 of these leg lifts, per leg, and I'm good for a while.

This basically changed my life, and my back hasn't gone out in 3+ years. Please try it out!
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Re: Throwing your back out doing stupid stuff
« Reply #50 on: February 21, 2021, 01:14:26 PM »
I was like 20 and was at Tampa skating the little street course in the other building when BA comes in and starts skating. I was just so hyped to be skating with one of my childhood favorites I had to try to show off. Jumped on the mini hubba for a 5050, front truck slipped and went to feeble and I twanked and danked my back. Felt like shit the entire rest of the weekend, didn't fully ruin it for me but mostly did.
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Re: Throwing your back out doing stupid stuff
« Reply #51 on: February 21, 2021, 01:19:27 PM »
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Threw my back out sneezing, as mentioned above, during a time in my life I was doing heated yoga 2-3 nights a week!

Came here to post that I sneezed funny and was out for like a week and a half.

That being said I’m about as flexible as a lead pipe.
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Re: Throwing your back out doing stupid stuff
« Reply #52 on: February 21, 2021, 03:10:20 PM »
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Re: Throwing your back out doing stupid stuff
« Reply #53 on: February 21, 2021, 05:57:03 PM »
Few years ago I threw my back out fuckin 10 pin bowling trying to get fancy and put spin on the bowling ball. I think they call it a hook bowl, you know where you like throw your back leg out and twist your arm up after you bowl, at least that's what I thought I was doing.
2 or 3 bowls later I twisted and tossed my back the fuck out trying that shit.
Serves me right trying to get fancy before I had any idea wtf I was doing.
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Re: Throwing your back out doing stupid stuff
« Reply #54 on: February 21, 2021, 06:09:48 PM »
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do yoga
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Threw my back out sneezing, as mentioned above, during a time in my life I was doing heated yoga 2-3 nights a week!
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ya, yoga is dope and I credit 12 years of practice/study as well as 500+hrs of teacher training with helping restore my body to a healthy level of functioning but I can't get behind the general yoga cure all thing. All bodies are vastly different and require different supports and asana instruction for it to be truly beneficial. but I'm not gonna knock anyones experience, I just feel that while there is some sort of physical yoga that everyone can practice, it's not so cut and dry. I think a lot of us older skaters with janky bodies need to be working with restorative yoga in that sense that it's literally the practice of restoring bodily health, before messing around with all the standing asana practice. yoga is always going to be here, might as well work it slow and with intention. just my 2cents.

I was gonna comment on lower back issues and ask if any of y'all with low back, hip, thigh, knee issues, and unexplained limps are familiar with the psoas major muscles? They're these long, very deep (deepest core muscles) muscles that start around Thoracic 5 and connect down the lumbar spine, wrap over the hip/pelvis, joins the illiacus in your groin and connects at the femur. The psoas allow you to walk, lift your legs, bend at the waist, stabilize the core while sitting and standing.

Psoas conditions manifest in many different ways, it can appear that your legs are different lengths. A tight side pulls your pelvis forward, causing internal rotation of the knee which can only cause the foot to rotate externally to keep balance. How many of us have that big external ankle rotation on our pop/push foot? When the psoas is locked short/tight, the femur gets fixed in place inside the ball of the hip, subsequently making one leg seem shorter than the other, causing a slight limp, and freezes pelvic mobility. A tight psoas can coexist with but also mimic so many other issues, especially herniations, sciatica, and knee problems.

If you think this applies, an interesting way to take a gander is to stand naturally in front of a mirror, without a shirt on. Pay attention to your waist/hips and try to notice if one is further forward than the other. In my case, my right hip tends to pull forward, almost lifting the foot from the floor. I've spent a lot of time working on getting it back to an anatomical baseline and it's been a great success.

There are exercises for supposedly strengthening the psoas, but it's important to release the psoas first. I had told some pals I'd make a foot care yoga video and a back care one and they're one the way, but I can throw up a super quick video for psoas nerve glides that I've already made, tomorrow if anyone thinks it's relevant. True nerve glides are super easy and take less than 5 minutes per day.

but ya, the stupidest thing I've done to throw my back out was wearing bad shoes/boots.

Very interested as well in all the vids you mentioned.

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Re: Throwing your back out doing stupid stuff
« Reply #55 on: February 21, 2021, 09:08:27 PM »
YOOOOOOOO

I would throw my back out about twice a year. The last time was from not skating for a while then running and jumping over a puddle. I was literally laying on the ground with back spasms for two days, then I found this video



at about 3:15 is the exercise, it's a sort of laying-on-your-side-leg-lift, which sounds silly, but it alleviated my pain after about ten minutes, and by the next day I was at about 80%

I cannot stress how much this exercise helped me. I can tell when my back is starting to get weak, and when I do, I do about 2 reps of 10 of these leg lifts, per leg, and I'm good for a while.

This basically changed my life, and my back hasn't gone out in 3+ years. Please try it out!

This guy is corny and Jersey as fuck but he makes good content haha. I have definitely got some good back strengthening exercises from his vids as well that worked for me


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Re: Throwing your back out doing stupid stuff
« Reply #56 on: February 22, 2021, 08:22:56 AM »
never had a major issue that required me to go to the er or so, but i had this happen for sure. on the way to the spot, ollieing up curbs and stuff, this happened to me while i was bending down for a little ollie. suddenly felt like i got stabbed in my lower back/spine and couldn't even pop off anymore. insta ragdoll and then a slow granddad walk home after regaining some constituency. then a few days of hot/cold treatment and gymnastics.

since i ride my bike to the spot i feel like i have less of these instant backpain issues. feels like a better warm up than pushing. since hitting 30 it feels quite strenuoous for my ankles and hips if i hop on my board right away.

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Re: Throwing your back out doing stupid stuff
« Reply #57 on: February 22, 2021, 09:51:23 AM »
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YOOOOOOOO

I would throw my back out about twice a year. The last time was from not skating for a while then running and jumping over a puddle. I was literally laying on the ground with back spasms for two days, then I found this video



at about 3:15 is the exercise, it's a sort of laying-on-your-side-leg-lift, which sounds silly, but it alleviated my pain after about ten minutes, and by the next day I was at about 80%

I cannot stress how much this exercise helped me. I can tell when my back is starting to get weak, and when I do, I do about 2 reps of 10 of these leg lifts, per leg, and I'm good for a while.

This basically changed my life, and my back hasn't gone out in 3+ years. Please try it out!
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This guy is corny and Jersey as fuck but he makes good content haha. I have definitely got some good back strengthening exercises from his vids as well that worked for me
This guy is amazing. I was basically sleepwalking my way through all my workouts until I started watching his videos, but now I'm actually aware of when I'm compensating with the wrong muscle groups (and when I'm pretty much just working out unsafely).

He has one video that shows you how to properly foamroll your back, and he shows you that you should NEVER foamroll your lower back. When I saw it I was like, "Oh shit, I'm an idiot."

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Re: Throwing your back out doing stupid stuff
« Reply #58 on: February 22, 2021, 12:34:17 PM »
I'll have some video clips ready by the end of this week for you homies. It's hard to keep them under 10-15minutes and I keep re-recording what I've made because I'm not using any editing software.

I'm not an expert on anything, but a dude who has restored himself through education and a long course of stretching, strengthening and realigning how I stand/walk. What I think about that Psoas massager is that it looks alright for getting at certain trigger points, but the teacher/body worker I've trained with who, who in turn has trained and dissected numerous cadavers with anatomy master Tom Meyers (look that dude up, he's incredible), makes the case that the psoas is too deep to actually massage and attempting to do so can inflame/irritate organs around it- the psoas is deep beneath the abdominals. From what I've been taught, the idea that the psoas itself can be adequately massaged is dubious at best. BUT, there are trigger points that can be worked in conjunction with psoas release, the most accessible and perhaps in the experience of myself and clients, the piriformus, which is deep in the center of your buttocks and has a bit to do with sciatica. Releasing the piriformus feels soooo, soo good. I've also been taught that working on the fascia, or connective tissue holding muscles and ligaments in place, is of incredible importance. Foam rollers and lacrosse balls are ok if it's all you have, but there's very little give which can in turn force us to either buck up on the pain or to back off. I use these daily https://www.tuneupfitness.com/shop/self-massage-therapy-balls to massage dried/tight fascia all over the body as well as to get at trigger points and release deeper muscular tension. What's cool about these tuneup balls (and I'm in no way affiliated with this organization) is that they're the closest thing to a trigger point massage one can do to themselves due to the amount of give available. Like I said, harder balls, lacrosse balls, tennis balls, and foam rollers, all have very little give and while the tuneup balls aren't flimsy, they squish just a bit according the amount of pressure you choose to apply. The rubber consistency allows them to roll on the floor, the wall, in your hand, subsequently allowing you to apply the amount of pressure that feels right.

Anyways, again, I'll have some videos up on a youtube channel for y'all by the weeks end. My apologies for not having them ready yet. Back/leg/pelvic/general chronic body pain sucks no matter how long we've lived with it. See y'all soon
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