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Re: The scummiest of all sell outs
« Reply #120 on: July 19, 2018, 01:18:58 PM »
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Amex is actually the best card to have, so many benefits that come with the annual fee, plus you have to be extra responsible because the balance is due each month (save for larger purchases you can split). I use mine like a debit card and pay off each month so I stack points, but for things like my honeymoon I was able to pay the 6500 over time where most cards interest rates are way higher. If you are financially responsible and not a dipshit its the best. *Cardholder Since 2010
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Exactly. If you can be responsible and pay your bill off in full every month or the entirety before any interest is accrued, using a cc is a no brainer. Make your money work for you. I get more cash back from my cc than any sort of interest my normal savings account gets. I'm not wealthy by any means but I have an 800+ credit rating by carrying a minute amount of cc debt and paying on time. It pays to play the game just don't get lost in the sauce.
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The point is getting a skateboarder in ads is not attempting to advertise to people who are fiscally responsible. Amex makes money off of people taking out too much debt and owing far more due to interest, and many skateboarders aren't educated in matters such as this to avoid such scenarios.
As much as I hate AmEx, their profit is actually from charging customers high annual fees and charging vendors high processing fees, compared to Visa or MasterCard. Also, the main card that they offer requires clients to pay the full balance monthly, and $500 annually. They all suck, and I’ve been getting more articles on American Express in my news app, which is the only reason I know all this irrelevant information.

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Re: The scummiest of all sell outs
« Reply #121 on: July 19, 2018, 01:24:20 PM »
I used to work for a company that did third party sales for Amex, I talked to rich fucks of all sorts, I yacked for an entire hour about murder rap with a doctor, one time this lawyer called straight up pissed that he couldn't get points for escorts, even Peter Facinelli called me one time about a card that he lost and bro he shit on me for no reason.

I gave it up cuz i probably will never make more than $30,000 a year and it was harsh trying to empathize with  jetsetting bigwigs.
Reading off that APR disclaimer is funny tho, like an overseer trying to assure Kunta Kinte.
Good thread.
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Re: The scummiest of all sell outs
« Reply #122 on: July 19, 2018, 01:35:03 PM »
how dare you drag Peter Bici into this.

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Re: The scummiest of all sell outs
« Reply #123 on: July 19, 2018, 01:36:37 PM »
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Agree with Gipper on this. Bad look for Arto. Even if only from the standpoint of what is good for Arto. This is a bad financial decision. Arto's greatest asset on this planet is that skateboarders love him. This makes skateboarders not love him.
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"Skateboarders loving you" pays like shit, though.
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Totally. That's why he had a house in the Hollywood hills with a pool, and that's why is now suffering owning a house on the North Shore. Clearly it pays like shit and has not helped him in any way.

Arto was a great skater, apparently made good financial decisions, and was in the right place at the right time.

For every Arto, living it up on the North Shore, care free with no bills to pay (since he can just eat the respect from that skater love), there is 100 former pros delivering pizza or working at a dispensary.

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Re: The scummiest of all sell outs
« Reply #124 on: July 19, 2018, 02:02:06 PM »
In for a long fight here... The more and more mainstream skateboarding becomes, this monster will continue to grow.

If there is a dollar to be made, someone will be all over it. And considering most guys seem to make their cash from something other then actual skateboard companies... The lines become blurred, trying to figure out who to shit on.

Even more than the mainstream aspect (we've been mainstream as fuck for a long time), as the skaters get older non-skate sponsors probably appear more "reasonable." I feel Abbey Hoffman's Jack Weinberg's declaration "Don't trust anyone over 30" holds pretty true for basically everyone but Mark Gonzales.

I had a friend who ran a small company and his advice to his riders was "when you hit 30 sell out as fucking hard as you can because you're career is basically over [with my company]."

Finally, I agree with the Gipper, I can't back selling debt, but I have to give Arto credit for Match Made in HEL, which was one of the greatest non-skate brand (FinnAir) skateboarding events.
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Re: The scummiest of all sell outs
« Reply #125 on: July 19, 2018, 02:46:59 PM »
I thought this thread would be about dyrdek.

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Re: The scummiest of all sell outs
« Reply #126 on: July 19, 2018, 03:42:23 PM »
I thought this thread would be about dyrdek.

He is so outside, it does not even count.

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Re: The scummiest of all sell outs
« Reply #127 on: July 19, 2018, 05:29:14 PM »
Is there really a backlash over this apart from this thread? Being in an ad for a mainstream CC company seems less questionable then that shit Theotis was pushing, and I'd imagine his audience would be a lot less financially literate then AMEX's target audience. Maybe I am just numb to stuff like this from being in and around the advertising industry for so long.

The amount of money made off people with poor financial knowledge is just staggering. The entire industry of renting appliances & furniture, especially those targeted at people with poor credit is straight up brutal. I've seen cases where the people could have bought it outright if they had saved the repayments for like 3 or 4 months, instead locked into 2 year repayments where they don't even own it at the end of the term, incomprehensibly bad deals you just look at and think who the fuck is taking offers like this up. The thing was they didn't need that many people because the margins were so insane.

Same deal with the payday loans, its just savage. The perfect collision of the desperate & financially uneducated.

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Re: The scummiest of all sell outs
« Reply #128 on: July 19, 2018, 05:59:50 PM »
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I don’t know where the idea that I have all this credit card debt is coming from. I don’t have any at all. Caring about larger social issues doesn’t automatically mean you are directly being hurt by them, it just means you care about others, and aren’t a trashy pile of shit.
Those coming at me for being a teacher- yeah, I didn’t sell out to corporate America like you and Arto did. Yeah, I committed my life to serving others. I lose out on certain material benefits, but have the right to call anybody I fucking want who is willing to harm others to get rich a sell out piece of shit. Deal with it. If it makes you uncomfortable fix your own fucking life. Don’t be mad at me because you can’t live an honest life.

Arto, enjoy the 40 pieces of silver for your legacy, you fucking exploitative shitbag
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Jesus Christ I would hate for you to be my kids teacher.
this! also never forget that he compared takeshi69 to the wutang clan

Impish sausage is definitely gonna blow up as a euphemism this year

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Re: The scummiest of all sell outs
« Reply #129 on: July 19, 2018, 07:14:49 PM »
I think the branding and promoting of the Piss Drunx/Baker lifestyle is much more dangerous than one IG post where you wouldn’t even know it was about Amex unless you clicked “see more” on the caption, but I’ve also never been brought to climax by a Naomi Klein book either

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« Reply #130 on: July 19, 2018, 08:36:15 PM »
I think the branding and promoting of the Piss Drunx/Baker lifestyle is much more dangerous than one IG post where you wouldn’t even know it was about Amex unless you clicked “see more” on the caption, but I’ve also never been brought to climax by a Naomi Klein book either

Was my exact first thought.

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« Reply #131 on: July 19, 2018, 08:46:39 PM »
Let's discuss how little the Gip understands the world outside his door -

1. American Express is typically a zero-interest card unless you really fuck up your spending over time once you have a card with them, and even then, you REALLY have to fuck up to make that happen, and even if you do, once you get your shit in check, you can get back to zero interest.  Had one for for 2 decades, haven't paid a dime of interest, I actually get hundreds of dollars of free shit every month from my points, so it's the one card you don't necessarily HAVE to pay off monthly where you won't get finance raped on interest and actually come out ahead.

2. The Gip actually thinks AmEx will give an account to just anyone who applies.  I hate to tell him, but shitloads of people get denied because they're too high-risk for misuse, so there's more rejection with them than any other card company.  Unless you're 20 and pulling in about $70k+/year, or, are opening a business, you probably can't get one.

3. I hate to tell The Gip, but there are actually responsible people who don't overspend the living fuck to excess every month who know what they're doing.  The Gip automatically implies that, well, if you're younger and skate, you must be a complete person and always be in debt.  By the same logic, you'd never qualify for a fucking American Express to begin with. 

If you're going to hate Arto, at least have an actual reason instead of always being le edgy anti-capitalist walking meme of what the rest of the US thinks of Californians, because holy shit, you've outdone yourself this time.  More than anything, I think this is all because Gip has received one too many rejection letters for his card application.


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Re: The scummiest of all sell outs
« Reply #132 on: July 19, 2018, 10:12:19 PM »
Let's discuss how little the Gip understands the world outside his door -

1. American Express is typically a zero-interest card unless you really fuck up your spending over time once you have a card with them, and even then, you REALLY have to fuck up to make that happen, and even if you do, once you get your shit in check, you can get back to zero interest.  Had one for for 2 decades, haven't paid a dime of interest, I actually get hundreds of dollars of free shit every month from my points, so it's the one card you don't necessarily HAVE to pay off monthly where you won't get finance raped on interest and actually come out ahead.

2. The Gip actually thinks AmEx will give an account to just anyone who applies.  I hate to tell him, but shitloads of people get denied because they're too high-risk for misuse, so there's more rejection with them than any other card company.  Unless you're 20 and pulling in about $70k+/year, or, are opening a business, you probably can't get one.

3. I hate to tell The Gip, but there are actually responsible people who don't overspend the living fuck to excess every month who know what they're doing.  The Gip automatically implies that, well, if you're younger and skate, you must be a complete person and always be in debt.  By the same logic, you'd never qualify for a fucking American Express to begin with. 

If you're going to hate Arto, at least have an actual reason instead of always being le edgy anti-capitalist walking meme of what the rest of the US thinks of Californians, because holy shit, you've outdone yourself this time.  More than anything, I think this is all because Gip has received one too many rejection letters for his card application.

And rejection letters from Mother Jones

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Re: The scummiest of all sell outs
« Reply #133 on: July 19, 2018, 11:29:21 PM »
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I don’t know where the idea that I have all this credit card debt is coming from. I don’t have any at all. Caring about larger social issues doesn’t automatically mean you are directly being hurt by them, it just means you care about others, and aren’t a trashy pile of shit.
Those coming at me for being a teacher- yeah, I didn’t sell out to corporate America like you and Arto did. Yeah, I committed my life to serving others. I lose out on certain material benefits, but have the right to call anybody I fucking want who is willing to harm others to get rich a sell out piece of shit. Deal with it. If it makes you uncomfortable fix your own fucking life. Don’t be mad at me because you can’t live an honest life.

Arto, enjoy the 40 pieces of silver for your legacy, you fucking exploitative shitbag
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Jesus Christ I would hate for you to be my kids teacher.
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this! also never forget that he compared takeshi69 to the wutang clan
The fuck... that's an unforgivable sin right there.


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Re: The scummiest of all sell outs
« Reply #134 on: July 19, 2018, 11:49:15 PM »
right? like if my kids were in his class I would pull them out straight away based on that fact alone.

Impish sausage is definitely gonna blow up as a euphemism this year

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Re: The scummiest of all sell outs
« Reply #135 on: July 20, 2018, 12:10:19 AM »
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I think the branding and promoting of the Piss Drunx/Baker lifestyle is much more dangerous than one IG post where you wouldn’t even know it was about Amex unless you clicked “see more” on the caption, but I’ve also never been brought to climax by a Naomi Klein book either
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Was my exact first thought.

I've posted similar sentiments on these boards in the past. I saw first hand the negative impacts that pissdrunx shit had on my friends growing up in the 90's early 00's

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Re: The scummiest of all sell outs
« Reply #136 on: July 20, 2018, 12:20:59 AM »
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I think the branding and promoting of the Piss Drunx/Baker lifestyle is much more dangerous than one IG post where you wouldn’t even know it was about Amex unless you clicked “see more” on the caption, but I’ve also never been brought to climax by a Naomi Klein book either
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Was my exact first thought.
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I've posted similar sentiments on these boards in the past. I saw first hand the negative impacts that pissdrunx shit had on my friends growing up in the 90's early 00's

Yeah I’m from that time period too.  And it annoys me that those guys sobered up, but are still wishy-washy about condemning it. 

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Re: The scummiest of all sell outs
« Reply #137 on: July 20, 2018, 02:05:28 AM »
Homie got a money sponsor. Das the best sponsor.

Also this got me dead
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Re: The scummiest of all sell outs
« Reply #138 on: July 20, 2018, 02:09:31 AM »
Does anyone remember this?


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Re: The scummiest of all sell outs
« Reply #139 on: July 20, 2018, 02:44:16 AM »
Does anyone remember this?



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Re: The scummiest of all sell outs
« Reply #140 on: July 20, 2018, 03:44:43 AM »
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I think the branding and promoting of the Piss Drunx/Baker lifestyle is much more dangerous than one IG post where you wouldn’t even know it was about Amex unless you clicked “see more” on the caption, but I’ve also never been brought to climax by a Naomi Klein book either
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Was my exact first thought.
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I've posted similar sentiments on these boards in the past. I saw first hand the negative impacts that pissdrunx shit had on my friends growing up in the 90's early 00's
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Yeah I’m from that time period too.  And it annoys me that those guys sobered up, but are still wishy-washy about condemning it.

Like Lizard using a cringy song all about drugs in his last part, while claiming sober. Wait, doesn't he claim sobriety?

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Re: The scummiest of all sell outs
« Reply #141 on: July 20, 2018, 04:24:25 AM »
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I think the branding and promoting of the Piss Drunx/Baker lifestyle is much more dangerous than one IG post where you wouldn’t even know it was about Amex unless you clicked “see more” on the caption, but I’ve also never been brought to climax by a Naomi Klein book either
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Was my exact first thought.

This really is a great point.

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« Reply #142 on: July 20, 2018, 05:36:06 AM »
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I think the branding and promoting of the Piss Drunx/Baker lifestyle is much more dangerous than one IG post where you wouldn’t even know it was about Amex unless you clicked “see more” on the caption, but I’ve also never been brought to climax by a Naomi Klein book either
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Was my exact first thought.
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This really is a great point.

That kind of behavior is prevalent in young men in that age range and always has been. Your friends just did it in costumes because of the Piss Drunx.

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Re: The scummiest of all sell outs
« Reply #143 on: July 20, 2018, 07:24:00 AM »
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In for a long fight here... The more and more mainstream skateboarding becomes, this monster will continue to grow.

If there is a dollar to be made, someone will be all over it. And considering most guys seem to make their cash from something other then actual skateboard companies... The lines become blurred, trying to figure out who to shit on.
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Even more than the mainstream aspect (we've been mainstream as fuck for a long time), as the skaters get older non-skate sponsors probably appear more "reasonable." I feel Abbey Hoffman's Jack Weinberg's declaration "Don't trust anyone over 30" holds pretty true for basically everyone but Mark Gonzales.

I had a friend who ran a small company and his advice to his riders was "when you hit 30 sell out as fucking hard as you can because you're career is basically over [with my company]."

Finally, I agree with the Gipper, I can't back selling debt, but I have to give Arto credit for Match Made in HEL, which was one of the greatest non-skate brand (FinnAir) skateboarding events.
my father used to say to me all the time "dont trust anyone over 30" on my thirtieth birthday he says to me "dont trust anyone under 30"

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« Reply #144 on: July 22, 2018, 05:51:49 PM »
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I think the branding and promoting of the Piss Drunx/Baker lifestyle is much more dangerous than one IG post where you wouldn’t even know it was about Amex unless you clicked “see more” on the caption, but I’ve also never been brought to climax by a Naomi Klein book either
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Was my exact first thought.
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I've posted similar sentiments on these boards in the past. I saw first hand the negative impacts that pissdrunx shit had on my friends growing up in the 90's early 00's
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Yeah I’m from that time period too.  And it annoys me that those guys sobered up, but are still wishy-washy about condemning it.
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Like Lizard using a cringy song all about drugs in his last part, while claiming sober. Wait, doesn't he claim sobriety?
Lizard should have used some mid 90s sXe if he was really down for the cause!

Impish sausage is definitely gonna blow up as a euphemism this year

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Re: The scummiest of all sell outs
« Reply #145 on: July 22, 2018, 06:18:53 PM »
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I don’t know where the idea that I have all this credit card debt is coming from. I don’t have any at all. Caring about larger social issues doesn’t automatically mean you are directly being hurt by them, it just means you care about others, and aren’t a trashy pile of shit.
Those coming at me for being a teacher- yeah, I didn’t sell out to corporate America like you and Arto did. Yeah, I committed my life to serving others. I lose out on certain material benefits, but have the right to call anybody I fucking want who is willing to harm others to get rich a sell out piece of shit. Deal with it. If it makes you uncomfortable fix your own fucking life. Don’t be mad at me because you can’t live an honest life.

Arto, enjoy the 40 pieces of silver for your legacy, you fucking exploitative shitbag
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Jesus Christ I would hate for you to be my kids teacher.
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this! also never forget that he compared takeshi69 to the wutang clan
He deserves to have his asshole sewn closed while someone keeps feeding him.

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Re: The scummiest of all sell outs
« Reply #146 on: July 22, 2018, 10:49:46 PM »
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I think the branding and promoting of the Piss Drunx/Baker lifestyle is much more dangerous than one IG post where you wouldn’t even know it was about Amex unless you clicked “see more” on the caption, but I’ve also never been brought to climax by a Naomi Klein book either
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Was my exact first thought.
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This really is a great point.
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That kind of behavior is prevalent in young men in that age range and always has been. Your friends just did it in costumes because of the Piss Drunx.

You are right to a certain extent, but i see differences between skaters and non skaters i grew up witg

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Re: The scummiest of all sell outs
« Reply #147 on: July 22, 2018, 10:55:08 PM »
Is he sponsored by Amex or does he just own a credit card I don’t get it

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« Reply #148 on: July 22, 2018, 11:11:20 PM »
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Let's discuss how little the Gip understands the world outside his door -

1. American Express is typically a zero-interest card unless you really fuck up your spending over time once you have a card with them, and even then, you REALLY have to fuck up to make that happen, and even if you do, once you get your shit in check, you can get back to zero interest.  Had one for for 2 decades, haven't paid a dime of interest, I actually get hundreds of dollars of free shit every month from my points, so it's the one card you don't necessarily HAVE to pay off monthly where you won't get finance raped on interest and actually come out ahead.

2. The Gip actually thinks AmEx will give an account to just anyone who applies.  I hate to tell him, but shitloads of people get denied because they're too high-risk for misuse, so there's more rejection with them than any other card company.  Unless you're 20 and pulling in about $70k+/year, or, are opening a business, you probably can't get one.

3. I hate to tell The Gip, but there are actually responsible people who don't overspend the living fuck to excess every month who know what they're doing.  The Gip automatically implies that, well, if you're younger and skate, you must be a complete person and always be in debt.  By the same logic, you'd never qualify for a fucking American Express to begin with. 

If you're going to hate Arto, at least have an actual reason instead of always being le edgy anti-capitalist walking meme of what the rest of the US thinks of Californians, because holy shit, you've outdone yourself this time.  More than anything, I think this is all because Gip has received one too many rejection letters for his card application.
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And rejection letters from Mother Jones

I'll gnar you in about 8 years when I finally reach the ability to do so.  Made me laugh.

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Re: The scummiest of all sell outs
« Reply #149 on: July 23, 2018, 02:50:53 AM »
I work in not for profit services for homeless people. We've had payday loans companies call our office saying "Hey we have the same clientele, we put flyers for your service in our office, would you be interested in doing the same?"

Advertising for AMEX is dodgy and lacks total credibility but it's not half as scummy as encouraging people to join the army.

Jaws and Boulala recently advertised for some drug company. That's pretty suss too.

Lastly, if you look on the IG posts comments, 2/3 are people calling him a sell out. I'm sure AMEX will probably look at this and realise they got their target audience wrong. What 30-40 year old gets their financial advice or influence from an ex-pro-skater? They'd be better off appealing to a younger crowd. Maybe get Nyjah or something as your representative. 
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