Insoles?

[Slave IV]

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The plain flat Kingfoam insoles are fine around the heel. They will mold to the shape of the shoe and kind of wrap around the shape of your foot, especially when warmed up. If you don't care about arch support, they are probably the cheapest and best FP insoles to get.

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Are they really wide around the heel like the Elite highs?

I was worried those wouldn't fit in my blazers, but they just kind of mash in there and work great. So if the 5mm flat ones are wider back there too, it should simulate a heel cup a little bit, which I'd be happy with. Either way, they're in the mail and I'm psyched to try em out. The elite highs will live forever only in my blazer mids

And yeah I don't care about arch support except in shoes that I want to fit as tight as possible/no foot movement at all like ice climbing boots, cycling shoes, ski boots, snowboard boots etc

I tried arch support and half-size down skate shoes for a couple years and they would be too tight in the toes, not enough heel cushion, etc

I bet glueing a kingfoam elite mid to a thin SOLE footbed in some SB Leos a half size down would be absolutely killer though, performance-wise, but I kinda just wanna chill have have a lot of boardfeel and room to wiggle. I have high arches anyway

No idea about comparison to Elite. I only have standard Kingfoam and Gamechangers. They both fit nice and snug around the heel on all the shoes I've tried with them, including Blazers. I only used Gamechangers in the Blazer but the insoles are pretty much the same shape with different tech..

[swongolianbbq]

Word I bet they're prolly the same dims

Thanks

[skateboarder4life]

Fp is a scam company, consider ANYTHING else

[rikki]

My go-to process: I swap my NB# stock insoles into Gamechangers once the shoe starts to reach the latter part of its life and the stock insoles start to feel dead. The FP's breathe a whole new life into the shoes.

If I skated vulcs, I'd prolly put in the FP's right from the start.

[swongolianbbq]

Fp is a scam company, consider ANYTHING else

They are corny

Can you tell me another brand that has foam like that? I would gladly buy from someone else who has something similar

I'm 37 and was hopping off my porch and landing dead on both my heels as hard as I could on purpose and my bones weren't getting rocked. They work for sure, I was honestly surprised when I first got them. I wouldn't be able to do that in any of the other insoles I've tried

I'm gonna get a set of Z-liners soon but I doubt they'll work as well for just pure shock absorption

Thing is, I've considered EVERYTHING else and ended up with FP simply because they actually work for me. I don't like the company either and never buy directly from them because their website is a mess

It reminds me of when I ended up using some Lululemon shorts for backpacking after trying a bunch of different stuff. I hate Lululemon for many reasons, racism and body shaming being two, but at the time I couldn't find any other shorts that were exactly what I was looking for (surge 4")

[Slave IV]

Fp is a scam company, consider ANYTHING else

What scam are they pulling? If it’s offering the best insoles I’ve ever tried, I’m ok with their scam.
I think there was some thing a while ago where someone was possibly scamming them by making a spoof website claiming to be them. Their official website and marketing isn’t the greatest either but I don’t care about any of that as long as I get the best insoles, which they make as far as I know.
Plus, I got 4 sets of their insoles for the price of less than one since the one I wanted was on sale and they were giving one free and they accidentally sent me my order twice. If anything, I scammed them in that case, lol. I’ll probably never need to buy any insoles again so I’m set whatever happens with them.

My go-to process: I swap my NB# stock insoles into Gamechangers once the shoe starts to reach the latter part of its life and the stock insoles start to feel dead. The FP's breathe a whole new life into the shoes.

If I skated vulcs, I'd prolly put in the FP's right from the start.

That’s a good process especially if the insoles that come with your shoes are already decently good enough. I did the same with my last two pairs of shoes but partially because I got the Gamechangers later specifically to replace my Blazer insoles because those weren’t cutting it. My current shoes had the worst insoles ever so I swapped in my Gamechangers immediately and they have transformed the shoes for me.

[skateboarder4life]

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Fp is a scam company, consider ANYTHING else

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What scam are they pulling? If it’s offering the best insoles I’ve ever tried, I’m ok with their scam.
I think there was some thing a while ago where someone was possibly scamming them by making a spoof website claiming to be them. Their official website and marketing isn’t the greatest either but I don’t care about any of that as long as I get the best insoles, which they make as far as I know.
Plus, I got 4 sets of their insoles for the price of less than one since the one I wanted was on sale and they were giving one free and they accidentally sent me my order twice. If anything, I scammed them in that case, lol. I’ll probably never need to buy any insoles again so I’m set whatever happens with them.

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My go-to process: I swap my NB# stock insoles into Gamechangers once the shoe starts to reach the latter part of its life and the stock insoles start to feel dead. The FP's breathe a whole new life into the shoes.

If I skated vulcs, I'd prolly put in the FP's right from the start.

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That’s a good process especially if the insoles that come with your shoes are already decently good enough. I did the same with my last two pairs of shoes but partially because I got the Gamechangers later specifically to replace my Blazer insoles because those weren’t cutting it. My current shoes had the worst insoles ever so I swapped in my Gamechangers immediately and they have transformed the shoes for me.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=2859951.msg4381482#msg4381482

[swongolianbbq]

Slave IV literally has comments in that thread lol


Yeah fuck them but all need is a couple pairs and they should last a long time and I don't buy them directly from FP or for full price and they help my feet

[Slave IV]

Slave IV literally has comments in that thread lol


Yeah fuck them but all need is a couple pairs and they should last a long time and I don't buy them directly from FP or for full price and they help my feet

Haha, I remember that now after reading it again and I basically said the same thing there, “I got reverse scammed” lol! I have to wonder if that was the fake site @skateboarder4life ordered from too. Either way, they are still the best insoles I’ve ever used and I’ll probably never have to buy insoles ever again so I’m good. If anyone else got scammed, I feel for you and that really sucks but I just can’t relate in this case from my unique experience with them.

[skateboarder4life]

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Slave IV literally has comments in that thread lol


Yeah fuck them but all need is a couple pairs and they should last a long time and I don't buy them directly from FP or for full price and they help my feet

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Haha, I remember that now after reading it again and I basically said the same thing there, “I got reverse scammed” lol! I have to wonder if that was the fake site @skateboarder4life ordered from too. Either way, they are still the best insoles I’ve ever used and I’ll probably never have to buy insoles ever again so I’m good. If anyone else got scammed, I feel for you and that really sucks but I just can’t relate in this case from my unique experience with them.

it was 100% the real site, they are legitimately just a SHITE company but glad you got reverse scammed. my bank did side with me and i kept the insoles too but i haven't had the stomach to try them i'm so disgusted by them. There were even some more kind of funny developments i may post an update in that thread

[Slave IV]

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Slave IV literally has comments in that thread lol


Yeah fuck them but all need is a couple pairs and they should last a long time and I don't buy them directly from FP or for full price and they help my feet

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Haha, I remember that now after reading it again and I basically said the same thing there, “I got reverse scammed” lol! I have to wonder if that was the fake site @skateboarder4life ordered from too. Either way, they are still the best insoles I’ve ever used and I’ll probably never have to buy insoles ever again so I’m good. If anyone else got scammed, I feel for you and that really sucks but I just can’t relate in this case from my unique experience with them.

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it was 100% the real site, they are legitimately just a SHITE company but glad you got reverse scammed. my bank did side with me and i kept the insoles too but i haven't had the stomach to try them i'm so disgusted by them. There were even some more kind of funny developments i may post an update in that thread

Well, I’m curious to hear what else they did but also wonder if it was a unique situation like mine but opposite if no one else experienced the same thing. Either way, you might as well try them since you got them for free and in a sense “scammed” them too but I totally get it was their fault. If they put your through some hell, at least you might get something good out of it if you like the product.
I got scammed once buying something unrelated and swore to never support the company again but years later, I heard people having good experiences with them and eventually, I tried them again because they had something that was difficult to find and they came through and have been reliable since.

[moonordie]

The plain flat Kingfoam insoles are fine around the heel. They will mold to the shape of the shoe and kind of wrap around the shape of your foot, especially when warmed up. If you don't care about arch support, they are probably the cheapest and best FP insoles to get.

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[Dmng]

Their website is just so fucking confusing, with all the different colour ways and prints and versions, a lot of insoles are not available as well.
Quite happy with my kingfoam game changer elite (I need arch support and those are the moldable ones). They had a crack when molding so I got refunded by skatepro but I’m still happy using them with the Louie Lopez 2. I thicker version moldable would be good to put in Nike or vans that have those thick ones but can’t be bothered to look for it as I don’t understand their offer.

I also assembled the front of nb480 insoles with the heel part of superfeet, which could be the dream. I find the stability of superfeets heel to be the best but their foam doesn’t absorbs much and doesn’t last long. I haven’t tried them yet

[swongolianbbq]

I put a size 9 SOLE Active Thin(1.6mm) insole on top of some flat 5mm Kingfoam insoles in my Jordan 1s and Air Ships, it's so dope

I'm glad I sized up a half size.. I have really wide feet and breaking in shoes used to really suck, and my foot would kinda spill over the outsole right in the heelflip/Ollie zone and I'd get holes there so fuckin fast.. jumping down stairs didn't feel great.. my foot rolled over easier

Jordans and dunks are wider than blazers and I feel like I have a lot more forefoot stability and don't get big holes in the side of my shoes as fast... But I can find lightly used blazers for real cheap all the time so I still rock with them too. They're way better in a 9 and I can't imagine cramming into the 8.5s anymore. I just cut the fat part of the swoosh off and shoe goo and stitch it down in the Ollie/heelflip area and that works.

Now I have a little room at the end of the shoe

Better to have em slightly too big I think. With the dunks, aj1s, air ships  I can use 7mm flat insoles, 5mm flat insoles with Injinji liner socks under my regular crew socks, or 5mm insoles with those 1.6mm SOLE brand orthotics on top. Or a Sealskinz waterproof sock for the snow skate or skating in the rain. It's kinda nice. You can always add more padding to take up room in a bigger shoe, but you can't exactly make a smaller shoe fit bigger

The sizing is pretty consistent across dunks SBs, Jordan 1s, air ships, and blazers. Blazers are a little narrower though and don't last me as long. My Jordan 1 mids are by far the widest I have right now. I don't have any size 9 dunks right now but I remember them being about the same as the air ships.

In the blazers I use the kingfoam elite high (5mm forefoot/10mm heel) to give me the same stack height as a Dunk or AJ1(blazer=17.5mm heel, dunks/aj1s=23mm heel) with a flat 5mm insole - and a little more impact protection, since blazers just have the rubber crate under the heel. That's all I can do with the blazers though, just a regular sock and the elite high insoles. Kinda a summer shoe only for me.

Anyways I was gonna get some flat 7mm kingfoam insoles for my air ships since the stock insoles were p thick, and they were kinda loose with just the flat 5mm kingfoams. Then I remembered my idea about stacking a SOLE active thin insole on top. So I tried it and it rules. Now I have a firm arch support, heel airbag/PU, and a thin/flexible forefoot, full 5mm layer of FP foam...

[fakiefs180]

I clicked on the ad banner on top of this site and landed at remind insoles. How are they?

[Teethcanbesexy]

My kingfoam elite insoles say to heat at 100f in the oven to mold them.  My oven only goes down to 170 at the lowest.  I could have just put them outside in the summer.  How are you guys molding them?

[Slave IV]

My kingfoam elite insoles say to heat at 100f in the oven to mold them.  My oven only goes down to 170 at the lowest.  I could have just put them outside in the summer.  How are you guys molding them?

I've noticed they have generic instructions on some of their packaging but not all insoles they sell can be heat molded. I thought it was only the Gamechangers that specifically say they are heat moldable. Either way, my oven has a temp reading and you could use a thermometer if yours doesn't have one and you just heat it until it reaches the correct temperature and then turn it off. You might also be able to do similar with a hair dryer.

[swongolianbbq]

My kingfoam elite insoles say to heat at 100f in the oven to mold them.  My oven only goes down to 170 at the lowest.  I could have just put them outside in the summer.  How are you guys molding them?

I don't do anything to mine.

I know the Gamechangers have a pocket of foam under the arch that puffs up like a ski boot liner when you heat them, but that won't compare to a rigid arch support from other brands like Superfeet or Sole

 I have high arches and I just use the flat, Kingfoam/Kingfoam Elite insoles that don't require any molding. They're the cheapest and most durable. Plus, my feet will definitely be 100°F in my shoes considering I'm already at 98° hahah

I have no experience with the Kingfoam Orthotics, that have the goop in the middle. I don't think those require heating.

 I also don't have any experience with the "Pro" insoles that have the moldable "quantum" heel. Those require heating.

FPs jargon and descriptions are all over the place. It's extremely confusing.

[rikki]

The Kingfoam Elites do not need heat molding. I've never done that to mine. Only to Gamechangers.

Plus, the 100F should probably be Celcius. 100F doesn't do shit to insoles.

But as said, don't bother trying to mold the Elites. They are way softer than Gamechangers and will mold as you skate.

[swongolianbbq]

Tl;Dr - replicating a nike react Leo insole with fp foam and nerding out about heel-toe drop

Not sure how thick the React insole is on the Nike SB Leo Baker shoe, but I think without it, it's zero drop like vans or something

I want to try them with FP insoles

This is the solution I came up with

Glueing a Gamechangers high or kingfoam elite high on top of a kingfoam elite low

I haven't seen the Gamechangers highs anywhere yet but the kingfoam elite highs are easy to find and cheaper

Elite high - 5mm toe, 10mm heel
Elite low - 3mm toe, 5mm heel

This makes it 8mm under the forefoot, and 15 under the heel, with a drop of 7mm.

I think glueing those two together with barge cement or even that white foam mounting tape or something would work well in the Leos.

I wonder what the actual dimensions of the drop-in react insole are and if it's actually 0 drop without it

15mm of kingfoam under the heel sounds wildly comfortable, but it would probably not work too well in a shoe that's not designed for some shit like that, but I know those react insoles are chonkers so we'll see



I might use the contact cement and also stitch them together around the forefoot while it's still tacky

Could be a fun shoe

Right now I know I like the cheap, totally flat kingfoam insoles in dunk SBs and Jordan 1s(~11mm drop), and in Blazers, I like the kingfoam elite Highs, though they change the drop from ~6mm to ~11mm. If I use kingfoam elite mids in Blazers I get a drop of ~8mm.

This is why the idea of stacking an elite high on top of an elite low intrigues me for the Leo shoe, cause it would be 7mm drop and more of that foam underfoot than my dunks/Jordans/blazers

But honestly just a kingfoam elite high (5mm toe/10mm heel for a 5mm drop) should work in Leos, vans, etc as well.

I did not like the elite highs in dunks or Jordans. Too much heel-toe drop for me at 16mm. Felt like high heels.

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[moykky]

Tl;Dr - replicating a nike react Leo insole with fp foam and nerding out about heel-toe drop

Not sure how thick the React insole is on the Nike SB Leo Baker shoe, but I think without it, it's zero drop like vans or something

I want to try them with FP insoles

This is the solution I came up with

Glueing a Gamechangers high or kingfoam elite high on top of a kingfoam elite low

I haven't seen the Gamechangers highs anywhere yet but the kingfoam elite highs are easy to find and cheaper

Elite high - 5mm toe, 10mm heel
Elite low - 3mm toe, 5mm heel

This makes it 8mm under the forefoot, and 15 under the heel, with a drop of 7mm.

I think glueing those two together with barge cement or even that white foam mounting tape or something would work well in the Leos.

I wonder what the actual dimensions of the drop-in react insole are and if it's actually 0 drop without it

15mm of kingfoam under the heel sounds wildly comfortable, but it would probably not work too well in a shoe that's not designed for some shit like that, but I know those react insoles are chonkers so we'll see



I might use the contact cement and also stitch them together around the forefoot while it's still tacky

Could be a fun shoe

Right now I know I like the cheap, totally flat kingfoam insoles in dunk SBs and Jordan 1s(~11mm drop), and in Blazers, I like the kingfoam elite Highs, though they change the drop from ~6mm to ~11mm. If I use kingfoam elite mids in Blazers I get a drop of ~8mm.

This is why the idea of stacking an elite high on top of an elite low intrigues me for the Leo shoe, cause it would be 7mm drop and more of that foam underfoot than my dunks/Jordans/blazers

But honestly just a kingfoam elite high (5mm toe/10mm heel for a 5mm drop) should work in Leos, vans, etc as well.

I did not like the elite highs in dunks or Jordans. Too much heel-toe drop for me at 16mm. Felt like high heels.

What if you didn't glue (or tape) them together? I think the adhesive layer between the insoles might make them perform worse.
I was actually thinking of gluing some hard sheet under those soft Kingfoam insoles, because they tend to curl and shift under my feet.

[Half-Flab]

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Looks like the heel is around 19mm and the toe about 8mm.

[swongolianbbq]

What if you didn't glue (or tape) them together? I think the adhesive layer between the insoles might make them perform worse.
I was actually thinking of gluing some hard sheet under those soft Kingfoam insoles, because they tend to curl and shift under my feet.

I mean I think if I just contact cement them together it should be fine

I wonder about that, like I've seen these thin carbon fiber ones on the internet for sale that go under your insoles for more energy return running or whatever

Looks like the heel is around 19mm and the toe about 8mm.

Oh dope, thanks!

[SupremePizza]

I've had a good experience with Superfeet Run Cushion medium and decided to try the Run Support medium. I think those are almost too supportive. First time I wore them they made my knee hurt and then tried them again and got the same. I think that arch support piece is just too rigid to do me any good. Anyone have experience with Move insoles? Or the new remind destin

[Dmng]

Which gamechanger would you put in an asics Japan pro / Nike dunk or nb non Vulc?

I had the gamechanger elite (normal version) on Louie lopez 2 and I really enjoyed them. They’d surely be too thick on the shoes I have now (Japan pro and Dunk) - who ils you just use the gamechanger Low?

Also how many pairs do you do with game changers ? The prices are quite high so I’d keep them quite a bit ideally

[Slave IV]

Which gamechanger would you put in an asics Japan pro / Nike dunk or nb non Vulc?

I had the gamechanger elite (normal version) on Louie lopez 2 and I really enjoyed them. They’d surely be too thick on the shoes I have now (Japan pro and Dunk) - who ils you just use the gamechanger Low?

Also how many pairs do you do with game changers ? The prices are quite high so I’d keep them quite a bit ideally

I use standard Gamechangers low and in my second pair of shoes on one set of insoles so far and I'm sure they will last at least a couple more shoes. Those are pretty much the only insoles I would use for any skate dedicated shoes although I have also used the basic Kingfoam as well. They all work perfect for me in any shoe, vulc or cupsole.

[Dmng]

Thanks I’ll try a pair then ! I really like superfeet but they only last one pair of shoe or something like that as the forefoot foam gets really flat and dead sadly…

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[Blind Fisherman]

I’ve been debating on getting some orthotic insoles, something to help with leg length discrepancy, but I’m not really sure what the best option would be.
After fracturing my pelvis a few years back, it healed but left me with about a quarter inch of difference in height between my right and left leg.
Anyone have any recommendations? I know this is more of a medical issue than just discomfort but surgery isn’t really an option for me and I’d like to find just a modicum of relief and evenness while walking.