Mental Health Issues

[soonbanned]

Fuck selling art fuck being a graphic designer fuck painting shoes for dope dealers. I’m not ever ever going back to work.
 I want to die a 80 year old hill bombing freight painting show going bum

You're just fucking lazy. And you have kids. Shame on you.

[soonbanned]

Anxiety and depression is NORMAL. EVERYONE experiences it.

Chances are, it's your fault. OMG!? GASP!? "MY OWN FAULT?" Yeah, your own fucking fault. And you need someone to make you understand that.

Anxiety over what? Just a general feeling of anxiety? Too fucking bad. If thats who you are then thats who you are. Noone will "Fix" it. BUT, almost ALWAYS, the anxiety is over something YOU COULD CHANGE but instead you spend energy to bawl about it. Get the fuck up and change it.

[silhouette]

Man, you seem to have a very strong myself vs. the world type of approach to this website. I think it's a bit of a shame because you chiming in on skate shit is growing on me; even when I don't necessarily agree, I like the sharp wit.

This is a different matter though and while I get what you're trying to convey, and the good intention behind the shock value, I can guarantee you that the human brain is more complex than you seem to think (on the sole basis of what you expressed), and I think you have to understand that some key logic or cognitive abilities that are so elementary and mundane, yet so crucial to people not suffering from certain mental conditions are legitimately impaired in the people suffering from them. You can't force synaptic connections into those people's brains; actually, their brains missing them constitutes their very illness, so they'd probably be thankful if you could equip them. But words aren't direct chemicals. In most serious cases, you'll just hurt people who've been hearing the same tired motivational speech by strangers their whole life, get the gist of it way more than you assume they do (or than you even do yourself), but just can't help but witness the persistance of their physical inability to function the way they would like to.

Obviously everybody likes to publicly diagnose themselves this or that nowadays with varying degrees of justification, but that's no reason not to take mental handicaps lightheartedly. OCD killed Joey Ramone and I'm sure keeps devouring many others to this day; don't let your mind slip distracted by the noise of the kid at the park who claims every of Reynolds' tics for anonymous attention. Of course a lot of people do need wake up calls, but if you're dealing with someone with an actual disorder then your voice isn't getting anywhere ever, and you'll just be another pain to them.

[givecigstosurfgroms]

Anxiety and depression is NORMAL. EVERYONE experiences it.

Chances are, it's your fault. OMG!? GASP!? "MY OWN FAULT?" Yeah, your own fucking fault. And you need someone to make you understand that.

Anxiety over what? Just a general feeling of anxiety? Too fucking bad. If thats who you are then thats who you are. Noone will "Fix" it. BUT, almost ALWAYS, the anxiety is over something YOU COULD CHANGE but instead you spend energy to bawl about it. Get the fuck up and change it.

  Dude ur young if you dont know that some people have good reason to be dysfuntional. Kids get sexually enslaved all over the place or million other things.  Hopefully nothing happens like that to you or ur family and you remain blissfully ignorant.

[soonbanned]

Man, you seem to have a very strong myself vs. the world type of approach to this website. I think it's a bit of a shame because you chiming in on skate shit is growing on me; even when I don't necessarily agree, I like the sharp wit.

This is a different matter though and while I get what you're trying to convey, and the good intention behind the shock value, I can guarantee you that the human brain is more complex than you seem to think (on the sole basis of what you expressed), and I think you have to understand that some key logic or cognitive abilities that are so elementary and mundane, yet so crucial to people not suffering from certain mental conditions are legitimately impaired in the people suffering from them. You can't force synaptic connections into those people's brains; actually, their brains missing them constitutes their very illness, so they'd probably be thankful if you could equip them. But words aren't direct chemicals. In most serious cases, you'll just hurt people who've been hearing the same tired motivational speech by strangers their whole life, get the gist of it way more than you assume they do (or than you even do yourself), but just can't help but witness the persistance of their physical inability to function the way they would like to.

Obviously everybody likes to publicly diagnose themselves this or that nowadays with varying degrees of justification, but that's no reason not to take mental handicaps lightheartedly. OCD killed Joey Ramone and I'm sure keeps devouring many others to this day; don't let your mind slip distracted by the noise of the kid at the park who claims every of Reynolds' tics for anonymous attention. Of course a lot of people do need wake up calls, but if you're dealing with someone with an actual disorder then your voice isn't getting anywhere ever, and you'll just be another pain to them.

I'm glad you understand my intention. There's hope for the collective membership here yet.

I know ALL TOO WELL about diagnosed and undiagnosed mental health issues. I absolutely won't go into detail on a public forum, but what I can tell you from experience is that what I just said is very much likely to help WAY more people than an echo chamber where everyone pats each other and says "there there". I admit to a me against the world tendency. Some of that info I'm not going to share is part of that.

All that said. MANY people CREATE, FOSTER, or HIDE BEHIND mental health issues, when the fact is that everyone goes through anxiety and depression on some level.

Things don't happen TO YOU. Things just happen. It's how you handle it that makes you who you are. Victim, or survivor.

[silhouette]

Our points actually complement more than they contradict one another, I think. I did take notice that you explicitly mentioned anxiety and depression, but there are members in this thread who have bravely confessed about other and arguably more socially incapacitating issues of theirs, and might read over the singularity of the conditions you singled out, only to be yet again reminded about their own difficulties - which may be different from yours - when all they're coming in here for is to try and confide. I also don't believe in safe zones, and the personal drive you're expressing is a something fundamental to one's general development so it should always be encouraged, but I did feel the need to remind you that sometimes, people actually lacked and needed something else than words they already get their daily share of. Or you could look at it like they need to come to their own realizations themselves and that's when schooling them won't help much.

Of course there's hope for the collective membership here. It's actually a lot of the newcomers with the myself vs. the world mentality that results in the occasional dichotomies, if anything. People who join SLAP thinking it's some kind of entity to fight and shape, when reality everybody's chilling up in here (and can't grasp why some people create accounts just to talk shit on this or that member, when they might as well just start enjoying themselves too).

[Suave]

joey ramone died of cancer

[silhouette]

joey ramone died of cancer

He was recovering from cancer. Dude slipped out on ice whilst walking from building to building on his OCD door lock routine in NYC, and consequently needed hospitalization that put his cancer medication on hold until eventually the disease spreaded back and got him.

[blurst_of_times]

Anxiety and depression is NORMAL. EVERYONE experiences it.

Chances are, it's your fault. OMG!? GASP!? "MY OWN FAULT?" Yeah, your own fucking fault. And you need someone to make you understand that.

Anxiety over what? Just a general feeling of anxiety? Too fucking bad. If thats who you are then thats who you are. Noone will "Fix" it. BUT, almost ALWAYS, the anxiety is over something YOU COULD CHANGE but instead you spend energy to bawl about it. Get the fuck up and change it.

Sometimes, anxiety and depression can be debilitating and you can't even get up and "do something about it". If you're hardass approach of knuckling down and moving through it works for you and other, then that's great! But it's not that easy for everyone else who struggles with anxiety and depression and other mental health issues.

[soonbanned]

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Anxiety and depression is NORMAL. EVERYONE experiences it.

Chances are, it's your fault. OMG!? GASP!? "MY OWN FAULT?" Yeah, your own fucking fault. And you need someone to make you understand that.

Anxiety over what? Just a general feeling of anxiety? Too fucking bad. If thats who you are then thats who you are. Noone will "Fix" it. BUT, almost ALWAYS, the anxiety is over something YOU COULD CHANGE but instead you spend energy to bawl about it. Get the fuck up and change it.

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Sometimes, anxiety and depression can be debilitating and you can't even get up and "do something about it". If you're hardass approach of knuckling down and moving through it works for you and other, then that's great! But it's not that easy for everyone else who struggles with anxiety and depression and other mental health issues.

Ok. You're right. Surround yourself with people who coddle you all the time and allow you to excuse yourself for any shortcoming. That'll fix it.

[Your Real Dad]

Hi,  When I said yesterday that "The way we feel is a choice that we're making."  I really didn't say it to be mean or harsh. I said it because realizing this fact is what helped me. It was a daily battle when I first decided to exercise my autonomy over my own feelings but soon I recognized that I was choosing to subject myself to things that were contributing to the shitty mindset that I had built for years.
Depressing or angry music makes you feel shitty. Mindvirus TV and movies make you feel shitty. Alcohol and drugs fuck you up. Eating shitty makes you feel shitty. Depressed people swim in this shit.  By choice.
The reason people won't banish this shit from their lives is that they have some fake persona all wrapped up in it. "Oh, I'm a humanitarian or a punk or a gangsta or a hippy, or a victim" or some other robotic, role play, bullshit.
Politics is a scam and media is poisonous trash. Yes, you do have the power to eliminate these things from your life and also to evict negative shit from your heart.

[Suave]

slap is toxic.
pornography is undermining family values.
everything is a choice.

[blurst_of_times]

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Anxiety and depression is NORMAL. EVERYONE experiences it.

Chances are, it's your fault. OMG!? GASP!? "MY OWN FAULT?" Yeah, your own fucking fault. And you need someone to make you understand that.

Anxiety over what? Just a general feeling of anxiety? Too fucking bad. If thats who you are then thats who you are. Noone will "Fix" it. BUT, almost ALWAYS, the anxiety is over something YOU COULD CHANGE but instead you spend energy to bawl about it. Get the fuck up and change it.

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Sometimes, anxiety and depression can be debilitating and you can't even get up and "do something about it". If you're hardass approach of knuckling down and moving through it works for you and other, then that's great! But it's not that easy for everyone else who struggles with anxiety and depression and other mental health issues.

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Ok. You're right. Surround yourself with people who coddle you all the time and allow you to excuse yourself for any shortcoming. That'll fix it.

Being supportive and coddling are two different things. Surrounding yourself with people who are sympathetic to your mental illness is what will help you overcome it. Yes, you as an individual need to do the work and make the commitment to go on medication, seek counseling, etc., but that's pretty difficult to do on your own

[Mark Renton]

My therapist just told me to cut down Zoloft from 100 to 75 to 50 to 25 to 0. It’s going to take a couple of months but it’s great news. In a couple of months I’ll only be on 5mg abilify. I hope I won’t relapse.

As in things you’re stoked on.
Life is beautiful!

[Ms. Tamzarian]

cheers mark renton !
soonbanned, you are arguing with clarity and have good points. but there's no identity between every-day anxiety / depression as you describe it, and mental illnesses. same as no identity between the every-day coughs / sneezes and the flu. you just can't go around assuming no one has legitimate illnesses -- that's the hole in your arguments here. again, you have good points tho.
i agree with sillhouette a lot as well, esp regarding:

People who join SLAP thinking it's some kind of entity to fight and shape, when reality everybody's chilling up in here (and can't grasp why some people create accounts just to talk shit on this or that member, when they might as well just start enjoying themselves too).

ppl in this thread gotta vent, and schooling them doesn't necessarily help anyone -- including yourself. i'm verging on biting that same bullet, so i'll shut up. but good points all around. and again, cheers mark renton !

[Dustwardprez]

That’s cool. I didn’t like that medicine.

[givecigstosurfgroms]

slap is toxic.
pornography is undermining family values.
everything is a choice.

  If you mean "christian values" then yah porn does that (I myself am christian)  But scientifically 'family values' isn't a thing.  We come from ancestors that didn't know whos kin was who's cause it thats what it was in the cave.  Woman had multiple partners.  Once agriculture happened you got surplus and the the need to know who you're kids were to pass the surplus onto.  Women lost they're power when the hunter gather community died and then they became property.

[Silky Johnson]

Head fog has been plaguing me lately, like I'm in my head more than usual

[Sick Duck]

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Anyones seasonal allergies intensify depression/ have any good leads on how to make that chill the fuck out? God damn some mornings in the spring/ summer are almost impossible.

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Yeah dude. On top of the nonstop runny nose that I have all year, during this time I have a terrible cough at night which makes it harder to sleep. The sleep apnea doesn't help either. Straight up, breathing, laying down, and sleeping are actual burdens for me. When I'm not working, I'm still fucking working. Holy shit, I hate everything. Why the fuck did I have to be born? I gotta man up and off myself already. I should go take out the biggest loan I can get, quit my job, go on a trip to Thailand, bang hookers, do drugs, come back home, buy a gun and end it.

I know this post is a month old, and i’m not trying to make a joke but honestly I think if u did go on some crazy trip like that maybe you wouldn’t feel like killing yourself anymore. You wouldn’t even need that much money to go to thailand and bang hookers. Maybe go easy on the drugs tho

[WastedHippy]

Sometimes I get frightened that my loved ones are in mortal danger. I’m told this is part of my PTSD. I have to pull over because I can’t breathe.
Since I have been forced into a Xanax taper it’s gotten way way worse.

It’s totally Fucked. In the past I would be sitting behind my work and I could see my mothers car on fire on the bridge down the canal because she was late. That was way before my brother was murdered by a paid police informant/coke dealer.

My cousin was killed in a car crash in 1986. That is why I gave most of my life to skateboarding.

All my friends are dead

I don't really get this part, what do they have to do with each other?

[Dustwardprez]

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Sometimes I get frightened that my loved ones are in mortal danger. I’m told this is part of my PTSD. I have to pull over because I can’t breathe.
Since I have been forced into a Xanax taper it’s gotten way way worse.

It’s totally Fucked. In the past I would be sitting behind my work and I could see my mothers car on fire on the bridge down the canal because she was late. That was way before my brother was murdered by a paid police informant/coke dealer.

My cousin was killed in a car crash in 1986. That is why I gave most of my life to skateboarding.

All my friends are dead

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I don't really get this part, what do they have to do with each other?

He gave me my first skateboard

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Anxiety and depression is NORMAL. EVERYONE experiences it.

Chances are, it's your fault. OMG!? GASP!? "MY OWN FAULT?" Yeah, your own fucking fault. And you need someone to make you understand that.

Anxiety over what? Just a general feeling of anxiety? Too fucking bad. If thats who you are then thats who you are. Noone will "Fix" it. BUT, almost ALWAYS, the anxiety is over something YOU COULD CHANGE but instead you spend energy to bawl about it. Get the fuck up and change it.

[close]

Sometimes, anxiety and depression can be debilitating and you can't even get up and "do something about it". If you're hardass approach of knuckling down and moving through it works for you and other, then that's great! But it's not that easy for everyone else who struggles with anxiety and depression and other mental health issues.

[close]

Ok. You're right. Surround yourself with people who coddle you all the time and allow you to excuse yourself for any shortcoming. That'll fix it.

DAD??? why didn’t you tell me you’re on SLAP?!?!!?
😂

[SpankerChief]

ive also bailed from social media for over the past month and i can say though super out of the loop, its super refreshing and calming to not have something to do every god damn second. I have WAY more free time than i could even wrap my head around. Its gross how often i was on my phone. I try to paint or skate daily for a little longer in replacement for lack of instagram.

Dude I have quit last 6 months both FB and IG and have never felt happier since then. I know when on both it is used as a form of connection to others but apart from that I stay away as it is a zombie inducing euphoria others cannot stop using. I like to do other things none skating wise to fill in that time albeit photography or bike riding as the time staring into a screen like a void just bums me out.

[soonbanned]

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ive also bailed from social media for over the past month and i can say though super out of the loop, its super refreshing and calming to not have something to do every god damn second. I have WAY more free time than i could even wrap my head around. Its gross how often i was on my phone. I try to paint or skate daily for a little longer in replacement for lack of instagram.

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Dude I have quit last 6 months both FB and IG and have never felt happier since then. I know when on both it is used as a form of connection to others but apart from that I stay away as it is a zombie inducing euphoria others cannot stop using. I like to do other things none skating wise to fill in that time albeit photography or bike riding as the time staring into a screen like a void just bums me out.

As infamously noted before I have a FB page with a lot of followers but my personal is blank, no friends no followers following nothing and noone. All I do is post to my skate page. I have an IG account for that page but it just sits there, instagram was the opening to the end of skateboarding as we all knew it. Too far gone now.

[os89]

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ive also bailed from social media for over the past month and i can say though super out of the loop, its super refreshing and calming to not have something to do every god damn second. I have WAY more free time than i could even wrap my head around. Its gross how often i was on my phone. I try to paint or skate daily for a little longer in replacement for lack of instagram.

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Dude I have quit last 6 months both FB and IG and have never felt happier since then. I know when on both it is used as a form of connection to others but apart from that I stay away as it is a zombie inducing euphoria others cannot stop using. I like to do other things none skating wise to fill in that time albeit photography or bike riding as the time staring into a screen like a void just bums me out.

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As infamously noted before I have a FB page with a lot of followers but my personal is blank, no friends no followers following nothing and noone. All I do is post to my skate page. I have an IG account for that page but it just sits there, instagram was the opening to the end of skateboarding as we all knew it. Too far gone now.

In case you haven't figured it out yet, no one on here cares what you have to say. Focus and Shalom.

[martha dumptruck]

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ive also bailed from social media for over the past month and i can say though super out of the loop, its super refreshing and calming to not have something to do every god damn second. I have WAY more free time than i could even wrap my head around. Its gross how often i was on my phone. I try to paint or skate daily for a little longer in replacement for lack of instagram.

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 staring into a screen like a void just bums me out.

[SpankerChief]

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Anxiety and depression is NORMAL. EVERYONE experiences it.

Chances are, it's your fault. OMG!? GASP!? "MY OWN FAULT?" Yeah, your own fucking fault. And you need someone to make you understand that.

Anxiety over what? Just a general feeling of anxiety? Too fucking bad. If thats who you are then thats who you are. Noone will "Fix" it. BUT, almost ALWAYS, the anxiety is over something YOU COULD CHANGE but instead you spend energy to bawl about it. Get the fuck up and change it.

[close]

Sometimes, anxiety and depression can be debilitating and you can't even get up and "do something about it". If you're hardass approach of knuckling down and moving through it works for you and other, then that's great! But it's not that easy for everyone else who struggles with anxiety and depression and other mental health issues.

[close]

Ok. You're right. Surround yourself with people who coddle you all the time and allow you to excuse yourself for any shortcoming. That'll fix it.

Wow dude you are a fucking horrible person and I mean that. I cannot speak for most people on here with their own issues but is that how you treat a person who’s been raped or abused by family members or a product of incest?

learn empathy for your fellow man. having that kind of attitude might’ve worked out for you but not others. How dare you assume that someone is coddled! I hope you have a kid and it gets abused and your kid shoots himself because hmmmm you say get over it it’s not that bad.

Fuck off you are scum!!!

[soonbanned]

I hope you have a kid and it gets abused and your kid shoots himself

Neat

[martha dumptruck]

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I hope you have a kid and it gets abused and your kid shoots himself

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Neat

i want to stomp on your children's testicals so you can know the pain i feel every day.

[soonbanned]

Good thing you people were born in a time of excess. Not a single one of you whiny fuckers would have made it this far otherwise. Your ancestors pulled bullets out of themselves and burned the wounds shut. You'd just lay there and die.