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I called the dude who runs the shop earlier this morning and kind of figured out why the fuck up.

Apparently absolutely none of the locals knew the exact circumstances of Pablo's passing. I'm guessing they, as well as many people from non-English speaking countries, only got the bad news from some bullshit medium where most substance gets diluted, i.e. IG stories. From what I understood, they all thought Pablo had passed doing something 'glorious' such as filming for GX1000 the whole time, consciously taking high risks doing what he loved. When I told them it all went down on flat ground as he was casually skitching back from Jesse Vieira's trial, they sounded flabbergasted and the extent of the poor form seemed to click for them.

Despite the appearances, the shop claims to have a lot of respect for GX1000, and has been working with the brand since the day it became one or so they told me. They did admit to being embarrassed by both the shirt and clip prior to putting it up (with full emphasis on that one shithead...), but I'll get to that.

People overseas will always have a less direct and more foreign, and romanticized perception and interpretation of entities and events (of any kind) than locals. In this case I think this is a side effect of GX1000's edgy image having been promoted so much (as far as in pop culture - GQ etc...), the associated guys have reached myth status to some people who are vulnerable to that shit, and developed some kind of hero persona that transcends their own names and existences. To a lot of uneducated people in the world who never had any real life interaction with their role models, those dudes are just names who might as well be mere notions or cartoon characters instead of living physical persons which is indeed wrong and disrespectful, but common when you're young and have never done interesting in your life I guess. My point being, it's definitely easy for people who are completely disconnected (geographically and culturally) from a situation to entertain their little fantasy world with whatever little strong news they might grasp, and form their distorted representation of everything that may shockingly contrast with actual reality.

The kid is a nobody who just so happens to be tight with the locals and showed up that day. Definitely the dumb kind to look for attention with shock value and he actually did get some on the spot. According to the shop, when they got the footage back from that day they were actually bummed (again, with everybody assuming Pablo's passing had to do with taking risks whilst doing something for GX and mystifying the story), and spent a while asking people around the shop whether or not it would be acceptable to post such a clip. They were iffy about using it, but also about the idea of potentially 'censoring' something (not a bad trait as it's what led up to exposing the kid's stupidity eventually; hopefully it'll open his eyes on how much he blows it). I'm guessing the people they consulted knew even less about Pablo than they did, who had to talk out of their asses, convince them it was cool and they should try and run with it as a tribute or some amateur bullshit. So there definitely was confusion on the shop's end.

I'm just being the messenger providing their take on this (as well as my own analysis...) in case people might be interested. By no means am I trying to justify any of the shit that went down. Regardless of the circumstances of one's passing, such reappropriation is always uncalled for. To be fair, it's not the first time I catch a shop 'trying to pay tribute to pspliff' by doing bogus shit such as posting the photos of the actual accident covered up with little emojis in their stories. Unprofessional as all hell but in such a case, I think it's the confused skaters' hearts trying to express something over the businesses they are supposed to represent - just doing it all wrong and on the wrong IG accounts. From an outside perspective it conveys the idea that shops want to capitalize on a recent human tragedy they have nothing to do with, which is a horrible look, but in most cases I can really distinguish mostly thick confusion and awkwardness.

Now the kid's situation is different. Dude showed up like that that day knowing he was going to be around skaters, and filmed. It's clear cultural reappropriation as an attempt to make his vanilla ass stand out, and get reactions. I'm glad he got exposed and called out on his shit, and just looking at his IG I think he might in need of some kind of mental help. That 'joke' he scribbled on his shirt, I could never see myself try and pull whilst sane. How one's heart doesn't stop upon them just writing down such absurd trash is beyond me.

The shop just put up a new version of the clip without the references, although the kid is still in there but without the close-ups on his shirt. I'm supposed to write a recap article featuring the clips all the participating shops sent Vans that's coming out tomorrow. I'll include the clip, but will call the kid out in the article and link to this thread.

Since I'm doing that, I also got an apology email from Vans even though they (nor I) had nothing direct to do with the whole ordeal in the first place besides sponsoring the event; the clip hadn't gotten their approval. The guys are clear and I'd say the shop definitely did shit all wrong this time, but they've realized it and in general a lot of stuff had gone over their heads (thinking of it now, I don't believe any French media ever really described Pablo's accident, and on SLAP we probably know way more about it than the general public); it's really mostly on the kid for scribbling nonsense on himself without having one fucking clue about life to begin with.

TLDR - shop basically had no one around to explain the extent of the meaning of the shirt to them. Vans is sorry even though they never directly had anything to do with this. It's on the kid for being the one bringing up someone's name into his bullshit and thinking pro skaters are basically stars belonging to pop culture as opposed to fellow human beings I assume. Fucked.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2019, 06:05:45 AM by silhouette »

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I called the dude who runs the shop earlier this morning and kind of figured out why the fuck up.

Apparently absolutely none of the locals knew the exact circumstances of Pablo's passing. I'm guessing they, as well as many people from non-English speaking countries, only got the bad news from some bullshit medium where most substance gets diluted, i.e. IG stories. From what I understood, they all thought Pablo had passed doing something 'glorious' such as filming for GX1000 the whole time, consciously taking high risks doing what he loved. When I told them it all went down on flat ground as he was casually sketching back from Jesse Vieira's trial, they sounded flabbergasted and the extent of the poor form seemed to click for them.

Despite the appearances, the shop claims to have a lot of respect for GX1000, and has been working with the brand since the day it became one or so they told me. They did admit to being embarrassed by both the shirt and clip prior to putting it up (with full emphasis on that one shithead...), but I'll get to that.

People overseas will always have a less direct and more foreign, and romanticized perception and interpretation of entities and events (of any kind) than locals. In this case I think this is a side effect of GX1000's edgy image having been promoted so much (as far as in pop culture - GQ etc...), the associated guys have reached myth status to some people who are vulnerable to that shit, and developed some kind of hero status that transcends their own names and existences. To a lot of uneducated people in the world who never had any real life interaction with their role models, those dudes are just names who might as well be mere notions or cartoon characters instead of living physical persons which is indeed wrong and disrespectful, but common when you're young and have never done interesting in your life I guess. My point being, it's definitely easy for people who are completely disconnected (geographically and culturally) from a situation to entertain their little fantasy world with whatever little strong news they might grasp, and form their distorted representation of everything that may shockingly contrast with actual reality.

The kid is a nobody who just so happens to be tight with the locals and showed up that day. Definitely the dumb kind to look for attention with shock value and he actually did get some on the spot. According to the shop, when they got the footage back from that day they were actually bummed (again, with everybody assuming Pablo's passing had to do with taking risks whilst doing something for GX), and spent a while asking people around the shop whether or not it would be acceptable to post such a clip. They were iffy about using it, but also about the idea of potentially 'censoring' something (not a bad trait as it's what led up to exposing the kid's stupidity eventually; hopefully it'll open his eyes on how much he blows it). I'm guessing the people they consulted knew even less about Pablo than they did, who had to talk out of their asses, convince them it was cool and they should try and run with it as a tribute or some amateur bullshit. So there definitely was confusion on the shop's end.

I'm just being the messenger providing their take on this (as well as my own analysis...) in case people might be interested. By no means am I trying to justify and of the shit that went down. Regardless of the circumstances of one's passing, such reappropriation is always uncalled for. To be fair, it's not the first time I catch a shop 'trying to pay tribute to pspliff' by doing bogus shit such as posting the photos of the actual accident covered up with little emojis in their stories. Unprofessional as all hell but in such a case, I think it's the confused skaters' hearts trying to express something over the businesses they are supposed to represent - just doing it all wrong and on the wrong IG accounts. From an outside perspective it conveys the idea that shops want to capitalize on a recent human tragedy they have nothing to do with, which is a horrible look, but in most cases I can really distinguish mostly thick confusion and awkwardness.

Now the kid's situation is different. Dude showed up like that that day knowing he was going to be around skaters, and filmed. It's clear cultural reappropriation as an attempt to make his vanilla ass stand out, and get reactions. I'm glad he got exposed and called out on his shit, and just looking at his IG I think he might in need of some kind of mental help. That 'joke' he scribbled on his shirt, I could never see myself try and pull whilst sane. How one's heart doesn't stop upon them just writing down such absurd trash is beyond me.

The shop just put up a new version of the clip without the references, although the kid is still in there but without the close-ups on his shirts. I'm supposed to write a recap article featuring the clips all the participating shops sent Vans that's coming out tomorrow. I'll include the clip, but will call the kid out in the article and link to this thread.

Since I'm doing that, I also got an apology email from Vans even though they had nothing direct to do with the whole ordeal in the first place besides sponsoring the event; the clip hadn't gotten their approval. The guys are clear and I'd say the shop definitely did shit all wrong this time, but they've realized it and that a lot of stuff had gone over their heads (thinking of it now, I don't believe any French media ever really described Pablo's accident, and on SLAP we probably know way more about it than the general public); it's really mostly on the kid for scribbling nonsense on himself without having one fucking clue about life to begin with.

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Who fuckin' cares if they thought he was a 24/7 hillbomber or a casual skater walking his dog, this is a huge shitcunt move and they can fuck off forever.  I don't give a shit about GX, and think that sucks.

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Who fuckin' cares if they thought he was a 24/7 hillbomber or a casual skater walking his dog, this is a huge shitcunt move and they can fuck off forever.  I don't give a shit about GX, and think that sucks.

Oh yeah, I'm not justifying any of that disrespectful shit. Just thought people might be interested in their take on things, and I could provide it.

I edited a TLDR into my post as I had gone overboard with detail and length. Obviously shit is still putrid regardless of how one chooses to look at it. Now if you ask me this whole situation defies common sense to begin with, so I'm out.

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Oh i see
they didn't get it wasn't funny to make fun of guys who died getting run over by cars.


Let me ask, was this understanding conversation you both had entirely in French?
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Why would two French people speak in English over the phone?

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I was gonna say somthing b4.  Yah somtimes its funny hearing europeans talk about 'america' and also how they are forever fucking up trick names. I just spent the last year in eurpe.  Theyve got some crazy ideas about pro skaters.
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don't you pick the still that you want the unplayed post look like in your feed? the image of the back of the t-shirt was  the still, but not the first clip played....

how the fuck can they possibly say they were embarrassed by the t-shirt prior to posting it but choose to use it as the still for the post?
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Fuck all yall foreal. Dude was in the wrong place at the wrong time. It's sad but he's just a human being

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Fuck all yall foreal. Dude was in the wrong place at the wrong time. It's sad but he's just a human being

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since when was this about you and your personal loss?
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I called the dude who runs the shop earlier this morning and kind of figured out why the fuck up.

Apparently absolutely none of the locals knew the exact circumstances of Pablo's passing. I'm guessing they, as well as many people from non-English speaking countries, only got the bad news from some bullshit medium where most substance gets diluted, i.e. IG stories. From what I understood, they all thought Pablo had passed doing something 'glorious' such as filming for GX1000 the whole time, consciously taking high risks doing what he loved. When I told them it all went down on flat ground as he was casually skitching back from Jesse Vieira's trial, they sounded flabbergasted and the extent of the poor form seemed to click for them.

Despite the appearances, the shop claims to have a lot of respect for GX1000, and has been working with the brand since the day it became one or so they told me. They did admit to being embarrassed by both the shirt and clip prior to putting it up (with full emphasis on that one shithead...), but I'll get to that.

People overseas will always have a less direct and more foreign, and romanticized perception and interpretation of entities and events (of any kind) than locals. In this case I think this is a side effect of GX1000's edgy image having been promoted so much (as far as in pop culture - GQ etc...), the associated guys have reached myth status to some people who are vulnerable to that shit, and developed some kind of hero persona that transcends their own names and existences. To a lot of uneducated people in the world who never had any real life interaction with their role models, those dudes are just names who might as well be mere notions or cartoon characters instead of living physical persons which is indeed wrong and disrespectful, but common when you're young and have never done interesting in your life I guess. My point being, it's definitely easy for people who are completely disconnected (geographically and culturally) from a situation to entertain their little fantasy world with whatever little strong news they might grasp, and form their distorted representation of everything that may shockingly contrast with actual reality.

The kid is a nobody who just so happens to be tight with the locals and showed up that day. Definitely the dumb kind to look for attention with shock value and he actually did get some on the spot. According to the shop, when they got the footage back from that day they were actually bummed (again, with everybody assuming Pablo's passing had to do with taking risks whilst doing something for GX and mystifying the story), and spent a while asking people around the shop whether or not it would be acceptable to post such a clip. They were iffy about using it, but also about the idea of potentially 'censoring' something (not a bad trait as it's what led up to exposing the kid's stupidity eventually; hopefully it'll open his eyes on how much he blows it). I'm guessing the people they consulted knew even less about Pablo than they did, who had to talk out of their asses, convince them it was cool and they should try and run with it as a tribute or some amateur bullshit. So there definitely was confusion on the shop's end.

I'm just being the messenger providing their take on this (as well as my own analysis...) in case people might be interested. By no means am I trying to justify any of the shit that went down. Regardless of the circumstances of one's passing, such reappropriation is always uncalled for. To be fair, it's not the first time I catch a shop 'trying to pay tribute to pspliff' by doing bogus shit such as posting the photos of the actual accident covered up with little emojis in their stories. Unprofessional as all hell but in such a case, I think it's the confused skaters' hearts trying to express something over the businesses they are supposed to represent - just doing it all wrong and on the wrong IG accounts. From an outside perspective it conveys the idea that shops want to capitalize on a recent human tragedy they have nothing to do with, which is a horrible look, but in most cases I can really distinguish mostly thick confusion and awkwardness.

Now the kid's situation is different. Dude showed up like that that day knowing he was going to be around skaters, and filmed. It's clear cultural reappropriation as an attempt to make his vanilla ass stand out, and get reactions. I'm glad he got exposed and called out on his shit, and just looking at his IG I think he might in need of some kind of mental help. That 'joke' he scribbled on his shirt, I could never see myself try and pull whilst sane. How one's heart doesn't stop upon them just writing down such absurd trash is beyond me.

The shop just put up a new version of the clip without the references, although the kid is still in there but without the close-ups on his shirt. I'm supposed to write a recap article featuring the clips all the participating shops sent Vans that's coming out tomorrow. I'll include the clip, but will call the kid out in the article and link to this thread.

Since I'm doing that, I also got an apology email from Vans even though they (nor I) had nothing direct to do with the whole ordeal in the first place besides sponsoring the event; the clip hadn't gotten their approval. The guys are clear and I'd say the shop definitely did shit all wrong this time, but they've realized it and in general a lot of stuff had gone over their heads (thinking of it now, I don't believe any French media ever really described Pablo's accident, and on SLAP we probably know way more about it than the general public); it's really mostly on the kid for scribbling nonsense on himself without having one fucking clue about life to begin with.

TLDR - shop basically had no one around to explain the extent of the meaning of the shirt to them. Vans is sorry even though they never directly had anything to do with this. It's on the kid for being the one bringing up someone's name into his bullshit and thinking pro skaters are basically stars belonging to pop culture as opposed to fellow human beings I assume. Fucked.

are you serious with this?  god damn man, shirt is definitely fucked up but you calling around for explanations and apologies is some next level 'get a fucking life' shit.  'stupid teenager wears stupid shirt to get attention', does not need to escalate to 'man on internet goes on spirit quest for answers to shirt and life'

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I called the dude who runs the shop earlier this morning and kind of figured out why the fuck up.

Apparently absolutely none of the locals knew the exact circumstances of Pablo's passing. I'm guessing they, as well as many people from non-English speaking countries, only got the bad news from some bullshit medium where most substance gets diluted, i.e. IG stories. From what I understood, they all thought Pablo had passed doing something 'glorious' such as filming for GX1000 the whole time, consciously taking high risks doing what he loved. When I told them it all went down on flat ground as he was casually skitching back from Jesse Vieira's trial, they sounded flabbergasted and the extent of the poor form seemed to click for them.

Despite the appearances, the shop claims to have a lot of respect for GX1000, and has been working with the brand since the day it became one or so they told me. They did admit to being embarrassed by both the shirt and clip prior to putting it up (with full emphasis on that one shithead...), but I'll get to that.

People overseas will always have a less direct and more foreign, and romanticized perception and interpretation of entities and events (of any kind) than locals. In this case I think this is a side effect of GX1000's edgy image having been promoted so much (as far as in pop culture - GQ etc...), the associated guys have reached myth status to some people who are vulnerable to that shit, and developed some kind of hero persona that transcends their own names and existences. To a lot of uneducated people in the world who never had any real life interaction with their role models, those dudes are just names who might as well be mere notions or cartoon characters instead of living physical persons which is indeed wrong and disrespectful, but common when you're young and have never done interesting in your life I guess. My point being, it's definitely easy for people who are completely disconnected (geographically and culturally) from a situation to entertain their little fantasy world with whatever little strong news they might grasp, and form their distorted representation of everything that may shockingly contrast with actual reality.

The kid is a nobody who just so happens to be tight with the locals and showed up that day. Definitely the dumb kind to look for attention with shock value and he actually did get some on the spot. According to the shop, when they got the footage back from that day they were actually bummed (again, with everybody assuming Pablo's passing had to do with taking risks whilst doing something for GX and mystifying the story), and spent a while asking people around the shop whether or not it would be acceptable to post such a clip. They were iffy about using it, but also about the idea of potentially 'censoring' something (not a bad trait as it's what led up to exposing the kid's stupidity eventually; hopefully it'll open his eyes on how much he blows it). I'm guessing the people they consulted knew even less about Pablo than they did, who had to talk out of their asses, convince them it was cool and they should try and run with it as a tribute or some amateur bullshit. So there definitely was confusion on the shop's end.

I'm just being the messenger providing their take on this (as well as my own analysis...) in case people might be interested. By no means am I trying to justify any of the shit that went down. Regardless of the circumstances of one's passing, such reappropriation is always uncalled for. To be fair, it's not the first time I catch a shop 'trying to pay tribute to pspliff' by doing bogus shit such as posting the photos of the actual accident covered up with little emojis in their stories. Unprofessional as all hell but in such a case, I think it's the confused skaters' hearts trying to express something over the businesses they are supposed to represent - just doing it all wrong and on the wrong IG accounts. From an outside perspective it conveys the idea that shops want to capitalize on a recent human tragedy they have nothing to do with, which is a horrible look, but in most cases I can really distinguish mostly thick confusion and awkwardness.

Now the kid's situation is different. Dude showed up like that that day knowing he was going to be around skaters, and filmed. It's clear cultural reappropriation as an attempt to make his vanilla ass stand out, and get reactions. I'm glad he got exposed and called out on his shit, and just looking at his IG I think he might in need of some kind of mental help. That 'joke' he scribbled on his shirt, I could never see myself try and pull whilst sane. How one's heart doesn't stop upon them just writing down such absurd trash is beyond me.

The shop just put up a new version of the clip without the references, although the kid is still in there but without the close-ups on his shirt. I'm supposed to write a recap article featuring the clips all the participating shops sent Vans that's coming out tomorrow. I'll include the clip, but will call the kid out in the article and link to this thread.

Since I'm doing that, I also got an apology email from Vans even though they (nor I) had nothing direct to do with the whole ordeal in the first place besides sponsoring the event; the clip hadn't gotten their approval. The guys are clear and I'd say the shop definitely did shit all wrong this time, but they've realized it and in general a lot of stuff had gone over their heads (thinking of it now, I don't believe any French media ever really described Pablo's accident, and on SLAP we probably know way more about it than the general public); it's really mostly on the kid for scribbling nonsense on himself without having one fucking clue about life to begin with.

TLDR - shop basically had no one around to explain the extent of the meaning of the shirt to them. Vans is sorry even though they never directly had anything to do with this. It's on the kid for being the one bringing up someone's name into his bullshit and thinking pro skaters are basically stars belonging to pop culture as opposed to fellow human beings I assume. Fucked.
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are you serious with this?  god damn man, shirt is definitely fucked up but you calling around for explanations and apologies is some next level 'get a fucking life' shit.  'stupid teenager wears stupid shirt to get attention', does not need to escalate to 'man on internet goes on spirit quest for answers to shirt and life'

I'm glad he called them and called them out. That definitely needed to happen.
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don't you pick the still that you want the unplayed post look like in your feed? the image of the back of the t-shirt was  the still, but not the first clip played....

how the fuck can they possibly say they were embarrassed by the t-shirt prior to posting it but choose to use it as the still for the post?

That's what I'm saying - everybody fucked up. But on the shop's end, it sounds more like a matter of ignorance than idiocy. Long story short, from what I gathered the guys themselves barely knew much about Pablo (besides his GX affiliation and news of his recent passing so vague I'm pretty sure I'm the one who just explained it to the shop what a truck had to do in all this), and they were duped by the kids' crew who reassured and apparently somehow convinced them that it was just an innocent joke (either due to lack of info themselves, or because reality is easy to twist). Like "yeah we think it's funny, you should run with it". All excuses of language barrier aside, something like this is definitely worth doing research on before stepping up to in any way, especially with any pretention of marketing. To me the kid is the real idiot who dug up Pablo's name all the while knowing exactly what he was doing the whole time, or at least with more clues than shop guys who spend more time running their businesses than focusing on IG stories and hearsay.

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are you serious with this?  god damn man, shirt is definitely fucked up but you calling around for explanations and apologies is some next level 'get a fucking life' shit.  'stupid teenager wears stupid shirt to get attention', does not need to escalate to 'man on internet goes on spirit quest for answers to shirt and life'

No, I had to call the dude due to working on stuff with a bunch of shops in France that's directly related to this. Vans spontaneously sent me apologies they didn't need after I had explained it to them why that shop removed that post. What do you think, that I live on here? I appreciate the concern but your idea is so wrong it's funny, really please don't worry about me.

Also I'm not in any way saying that the shop guys not knowing makes the situation any more OK. It's just all they had to say, so here I am reporting it, DM them for complaints, not me.
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Fuck all yall foreal. Dude was in the wrong place at the wrong time. It's sad but he's just a human being

Rip foreal, but fuck all this "It's wrong it's wrong" trash

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Fuck all yall foreal. Dude was in the wrong place at the wrong time. It's sad but he's just a human being

Rip foreal, but fuck all this "It's wrong it's wrong" trash

I've lost to many people for this to be new, nothing is sacred and trucks win when we don't have breaks!

Dissolve your hive mind attachment to another that shares your little hobby/job
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since when was this about you and your personal loss?
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tha fuck u took ???

....... fuck the its wrong its wrong "thrash"
ok- so well "dissolve our hive minds attached to skateboarding" and pretend for a minute a similar situation happened not involving skateboarding and IT WAS STILL BE FUCKED UP

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Fuck all yall foreal. Dude was in the wrong place at the wrong time. It's sad but he's just a human being

Rip foreal, but fuck all this "It's wrong it's wrong" trash

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Dissolve your hive mind attachment to another that shares your little hobby/job

This man said your little hobby hahahahahahahaha

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Fuck this dude, i just looked up his IG, hes so pathetic, begging for attention.

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Ohhhh so they thought since he died a "noble" death it would be chill to poke fun at it two weeks later I see. They weren't aware that wouldn't be cool cause of the language barrier and stuff France is really isolated and remote. The kid who made the shirt didnt google how he died to come up with the joke and the shop owners supporting from day one just simply didn't wanna edit out the random kid in the shirt and skeletor pants cause of censorship and stuff so they made it the thumbnail on Instagram.

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Seriously uncool
Rest in peace Dick Dale.

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Ohhhh so they thought since he died a "noble" death it would be chill to poke fun at it two weeks later I see. They weren't aware that wouldn't be cool cause of the language barrier and stuff France is really isolated and remote. The kid who made the shirt didnt google how he died to come up with the joke and the shop owners supporting from day one just simply didn't wanna edit out the random kid in the shirt and skeletor pants cause of censorship and stuff so they made it the thumbnail on Instagram.

hopefully ty evans was there to film him laying on the ground in HD

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Ohhhh so they thought since he died a "noble" death it would be chill to poke fun at it two weeks later I see. They weren't aware that wouldn't be cool cause of the language barrier and stuff France is really isolated and remote. The kid who made the shirt didnt google how he died to come up with the joke and the shop owners supporting from day one just simply didn't wanna edit out the random kid in the shirt and skeletor pants cause of censorship and stuff so they made it the thumbnail on Instagram.

How about you guys just DM them such comments instead of posting them on here, unless you like your energy to go to waste?

Might be another waste though as I really think the shop did eventually realize how they fucked up by not considering the situation on the spot, the guys genuinely sounded shook, like no shit. The kid I'm not sure, as he appears to just keep deleting every comment on his IG.
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hope whoever made that gets hit by a truck deliberately

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hope whoever made that gets hit by a truck deliberately
  Silly^.  Like someone else said the guy is prolly mentally disturbed.  Dont get all worked up. 
"I just care about the river, I dont care about your back"

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Ohhhh so they thought since he died a "noble" death it would be chill to poke fun at it two weeks later I see. They weren't aware that wouldn't be cool cause of the language barrier and stuff France is really isolated and remote. The kid who made the shirt didnt google how he died to come up with the joke and the shop owners supporting from day one just simply didn't wanna edit out the random kid in the shirt and skeletor pants cause of censorship and stuff so they made it the thumbnail on Instagram.
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How about you guys just DM them such comments instead of posting them on here, unless you like your energy to go to waste?

Might be another waste though as I really think the shop did eventually realize how they fucked up by not considering the situation on the spot, the guys genuinely sounded shook, like no shit. The kid I'm not sure, as he appears to just keep deleting every comment on his IG.
Not trying to shoot the messenger no disrespect to you. Just seemed like a good place to post my reaction to the info you provided.

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Not trying to shoot the messenger no disrespect to you. Just seemed like a good place to post my reaction to the info you provided.

No worries!
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I called the dude who runs the shop earlier this morning and kind of figured out why the fuck up.

Apparently absolutely none of the locals knew the exact circumstances of Pablo's passing. I'm guessing they, as well as many people from non-English speaking countries, only got the bad news from some bullshit medium where most substance gets diluted, i.e. IG stories. From what I understood, they all thought Pablo had passed doing something 'glorious' such as filming for GX1000 the whole time, consciously taking high risks doing what he loved. When I told them it all went down on flat ground as he was casually skitching back from Jesse Vieira's trial, they sounded flabbergasted and the extent of the poor form seemed to click for them.

Despite the appearances, the shop claims to have a lot of respect for GX1000, and has been working with the brand since the day it became one or so they told me. They did admit to being embarrassed by both the shirt and clip prior to putting it up (with full emphasis on that one shithead...), but I'll get to that.

People overseas will always have a less direct and more foreign, and romanticized perception and interpretation of entities and events (of any kind) than locals. In this case I think this is a side effect of GX1000's edgy image having been promoted so much (as far as in pop culture - GQ etc...), the associated guys have reached myth status to some people who are vulnerable to that shit, and developed some kind of hero persona that transcends their own names and existences. To a lot of uneducated people in the world who never had any real life interaction with their role models, those dudes are just names who might as well be mere notions or cartoon characters instead of living physical persons which is indeed wrong and disrespectful, but common when you're young and have never done interesting in your life I guess. My point being, it's definitely easy for people who are completely disconnected (geographically and culturally) from a situation to entertain their little fantasy world with whatever little strong news they might grasp, and form their distorted representation of everything that may shockingly contrast with actual reality.

The kid is a nobody who just so happens to be tight with the locals and showed up that day. Definitely the dumb kind to look for attention with shock value and he actually did get some on the spot. According to the shop, when they got the footage back from that day they were actually bummed (again, with everybody assuming Pablo's passing had to do with taking risks whilst doing something for GX and mystifying the story), and spent a while asking people around the shop whether or not it would be acceptable to post such a clip. They were iffy about using it, but also about the idea of potentially 'censoring' something (not a bad trait as it's what led up to exposing the kid's stupidity eventually; hopefully it'll open his eyes on how much he blows it). I'm guessing the people they consulted knew even less about Pablo than they did, who had to talk out of their asses, convince them it was cool and they should try and run with it as a tribute or some amateur bullshit. So there definitely was confusion on the shop's end.

I'm just being the messenger providing their take on this (as well as my own analysis...) in case people might be interested. By no means am I trying to justify any of the shit that went down. Regardless of the circumstances of one's passing, such reappropriation is always uncalled for. To be fair, it's not the first time I catch a shop 'trying to pay tribute to pspliff' by doing bogus shit such as posting the photos of the actual accident covered up with little emojis in their stories. Unprofessional as all hell but in such a case, I think it's the confused skaters' hearts trying to express something over the businesses they are supposed to represent - just doing it all wrong and on the wrong IG accounts. From an outside perspective it conveys the idea that shops want to capitalize on a recent human tragedy they have nothing to do with, which is a horrible look, but in most cases I can really distinguish mostly thick confusion and awkwardness.

Now the kid's situation is different. Dude showed up like that that day knowing he was going to be around skaters, and filmed. It's clear cultural reappropriation as an attempt to make his vanilla ass stand out, and get reactions. I'm glad he got exposed and called out on his shit, and just looking at his IG I think he might in need of some kind of mental help. That 'joke' he scribbled on his shirt, I could never see myself try and pull whilst sane. How one's heart doesn't stop upon them just writing down such absurd trash is beyond me.

The shop just put up a new version of the clip without the references, although the kid is still in there but without the close-ups on his shirt. I'm supposed to write a recap article featuring the clips all the participating shops sent Vans that's coming out tomorrow. I'll include the clip, but will call the kid out in the article and link to this thread.

Since I'm doing that, I also got an apology email from Vans even though they (nor I) had nothing direct to do with the whole ordeal in the first place besides sponsoring the event; the clip hadn't gotten their approval. The guys are clear and I'd say the shop definitely did shit all wrong this time, but they've realized it and in general a lot of stuff had gone over their heads (thinking of it now, I don't believe any French media ever really described Pablo's accident, and on SLAP we probably know way more about it than the general public); it's really mostly on the kid for scribbling nonsense on himself without having one fucking clue about life to begin with.

TLDR - shop basically had no one around to explain the extent of the meaning of the shirt to them. Vans is sorry even though they never directly had anything to do with this. It's on the kid for being the one bringing up someone's name into his bullshit and thinking pro skaters are basically stars belonging to pop culture as opposed to fellow human beings I assume. Fucked.
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are you serious with this?  god damn man, shirt is definitely fucked up but you calling around for explanations and apologies is some next level 'get a fucking life' shit.  'stupid teenager wears stupid shirt to get attention', does not need to escalate to 'man on internet goes on spirit quest for answers to shirt and life'

damn. how lazy are you that you think making a phone call equals a spirit quest? you must binge eat donuts and play video games all day while your mom types your Internet comments for you.