Twin tail

[Maxi205]

Does the welcome 8.25 twin shape have a 14 inch wheelbase? Some sites list it at 14 inch and some others do list it at 14.25

[ChuckRamone]

Does the welcome 8.25 twin shape have a 14 inch wheelbase? Some sites list it at 14 inch and some others do list it at 14.25

The Welcome site itself says 14 and they would probably know best. But I had another of their twin tail 8.25s and it was listed as a 14.25 on the retailer's site. It's possible Welcome has its own board measurements wrong, or measured them differently from other people.

[BALARGUE]

On that welcome evil twin (specifically 8.5")
How are the tail / nose ?
They seem pretty square / shovel
How do they compare to Hockey/ FA or Gx1000 ?

[OhioGuy]

On that welcome evil twin (specifically 8.5")
How are the tail / nose ?
They seem pretty square / shovel
How do they compare to Hockey/ FA or Gx1000 ?

Almost identical. The FA is just a little more square. Welcome tapers more, but it’s nothing drastic.

The Welcome is on top of the FA in the picture, both are 8.5. You can barely see the FA cause the shapes are that similar.

[BALARGUE]

Perfect
Thanks, it helps a lot

[GBLange]

Quasi twin tail 8.375" & 14.25"wb

https://quasiskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/blast-8-375

[OhioGuy]

Quasi twin tail 8.375" & 14.25"wb

https://quasiskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/blast-8-375

That’s a cool symmetrical graphic and shape.

[Xen]

That quasi has been around for a minute (Henry Mirror/Dog Work, Metal Blue/Etc), ridden a few of them. It's super super good.

[Easy Slider]

That quasi has been around for a minute (Henry Mirror/Dog Work, Metal Blue/Etc), ridden a few of them. It's super super good.

Can you compare it to the Ishod twin pls?

[WideFeet]

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That quasi has been around for a minute (Henry Mirror/Dog Work, Metal Blue/Etc), ridden a few of them. It's super super good.

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Can you compare it to the Ishod twin pls?

I haven’t skated the Quasi twintail, but from what I remember seeing when I compared them, the nose and tail seemed long on the Quasi. Wheelbase on the Ishod is longer. Quasi twintail has a 14.25” WB. Ishod is a 14.4” WB. Quasi is 8.375” wide. Ishod is 8.3” wide. I’ve measure the 8.3” and the DLX 8.25”, and they looks the same to me.

I love the Ishod twintail. Haven’t skated the Quasi because of the wheels base. 14.25” is too short for me

[Easy Slider]

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That quasi has been around for a minute (Henry Mirror/Dog Work, Metal Blue/Etc), ridden a few of them. It's super super good.

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Can you compare it to the Ishod twin pls?

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I haven’t skated the Quasi twintail, but from what I remember seeing when I compared them, the nose and tail seemed long on the Quasi. Wheelbase on the Ishod is longer. Quasi twintail has a 14.25” WB. Ishod is a 14.4” WB. Quasi is 8.375” wide. Ishod is 8.3” wide. I’ve measure the 8.3” and the DLX 8.25”, and they looks the same to me.

I love the Ishod twintail. Haven’t skated the Quasi because of the wheels base. 14.25” is too short for me

Interesting thx.

[Xen]

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That quasi has been around for a minute (Henry Mirror/Dog Work, Metal Blue/Etc), ridden a few of them. It's super super good.

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Can you compare it to the Ishod twin pls?

To me, the quasi feels more like an 8.25, whereas the Ishod feels like an 8.3/8.5:, Quasi is more Twin Nose, than Twin Tail (Ishod), the Quasi is a bit pointier than the Ishod, however, it's not pointy, it's a very full rounded shape (which has sort of spoiled me now because I love that style nose).

The Quasi (as the Dims state) is smaller all 31.75 vs 31.9 - 14.25" WB vs 14.44" - width wise it's wash, the Ishod is listed as 8.3, quasi 8.375 but tolerances as they are, they're so close you'd be hard pressed to notice.

Both BBS but depending on the numeral you get from DLX, the Quasis were always more mellow.

Biggest take is the Ishod feels bigger overall. I ran 8.25" trucks on the quasi usually. 149s on the DLX.

I'm going to nab that new quasi to Ice, the Brown/Mirror graphic was shit, Metal cat was stupid limited and the Dog Work was to directional.

[Hubba Bo-Tep]

I snapped the Welcome 8.0 yesterday so immediately set up an old Ishod 8.3 that i had on standby.  I turns out that the Ishod is not my cup of tea at all, it felt fat, short, heavy, pointy and I generally disliked looking down at it.  I'm sure I'd get used to it again, but I'm glad I knew the Welcome was on its way out so got another, I just hadn't gripped it 'cause I was waiting to set it up for Barcelona in a couple of weeks.  I for sure won't be buying an Ishod or Worrest again. 

[Easy Slider]

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That quasi has been around for a minute (Henry Mirror/Dog Work, Metal Blue/Etc), ridden a few of them. It's super super good.

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Can you compare it to the Ishod twin pls?

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To me, the quasi feels more like an 8.25, whereas the Ishod feels like an 8.3/8.5:, Quasi is more Twin Nose, than Twin Tail (Ishod), the Quasi is a bit pointier than the Ishod, however, it's not pointy, it's a very full rounded shape (which has sort of spoiled me now because I love that style nose).

The Quasi (as the Dims state) is smaller all 31.75 vs 31.9 - 14.25" WB vs 14.44" - width wise it's wash, the Ishod is listed as 8.3, quasi 8.375 but tolerances as they are, they're so close you'd be hard pressed to notice.

Both BBS but depending on the numeral you get from DLX, the Quasis were always more mellow.

Biggest take is the Ishod feels bigger overall. I ran 8.25" trucks on the quasi usually. 149s on the DLX.

I'm going to nab that new quasi to Ice, the Brown/Mirror graphic was shit, Metal cat was stupid limited and the Dog Work was to directional.

Gnar to you bruh.

[Xen]

I snapped the Welcome 8.0 yesterday so immediately set up an old Ishod 8.3 that i had on standby.  I turns out that the Ishod is not my cup of tea at all, it felt fat, short, heavy, pointy and I generally disliked looking down at it.  I'm sure I'd get used to it again, but I'm glad I knew the Welcome was on its way out so got another, I just hadn't gripped it 'cause I was waiting to set it up for Barcelona in a couple of weeks.  I for sure won't be buying an Ishod or Worrest again. 

That’s one point I forgot to mention, the dlx twin did feel heaviest, especially the slick, by comparison.

[Idk]

I can understand the slick being heavy because the plastic does add weight but bbs boards have always been a bit heavier than PS stix.

[Xen]

I can understand the slick being heavy because the plastic does add weight but bbs boards have always been a bit heavier than PS stix.

Both decks in question are BBS.

[backinaction]

I can understand the slick being heavy because the plastic does add weight but bbs boards have always been a bit heavier than PS stix.

The slick twins have also been the only boards I have had in the last 10 years that warped. 

I have had three of the 8.3 twins. Two slicks that both warped, and a regular that has been sitting mostly unskated for 3 years that is still straight as an arrow.

[Idk]

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I can understand the slick being heavy because the plastic does add weight but bbs boards have always been a bit heavier than PS stix.

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Both decks in question are BBS.

Sorry I confused the welcome and the quasi.

[Xen]

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I can understand the slick being heavy because the plastic does add weight but bbs boards have always been a bit heavier than PS stix.

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Both decks in question are BBS.

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Sorry I confused the welcome and the quasi.

My welcome twin  was also BBS =)

Are all twins BBS these days?

[Idk]

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I can understand the slick being heavy because the plastic does add weight but bbs boards have always been a bit heavier than PS stix.

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Both decks in question are BBS.

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Sorry I confused the welcome and the quasi.

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My welcome twin  was also BBS =)

Are all twins BBS these days?

When did Welcome go BBS??? What is going on with the Professor? Did the Jason guy who owns welcome own the shapes as well?

[Xen]

It’s a pstix conspiracy to keep the utility of a nose and tail

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I can understand the slick being heavy because the plastic does add weight but bbs boards have always been a bit heavier than PS stix.

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Both decks in question are BBS.

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Sorry I confused the welcome and the quasi.

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My welcome twin  was also BBS =)

Are all twins BBS these days?

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When did Welcome go BBS??? What is going on with the Professor? Did the Jason guy who owns welcome own the shapes as well?

Good I hope people keep leaving until ps gets its quality control together. Good shapes but man have I had some duds from a supposedly respected woodshop

[mynameisnotjeff]

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I can understand the slick being heavy because the plastic does add weight but bbs boards have always been a bit heavier than PS stix.

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Both decks in question are BBS.

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Sorry I confused the welcome and the quasi.

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My welcome twin  was also BBS =)

Are all twins BBS these days?

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When did Welcome go BBS??? What is going on with the Professor? Did the Jason guy who owns welcome own the shapes as well?

I think there was an interview with Paul where he said Welcome shapes are off limits for brands because of the effort and work the brand's out in.
He doesn’t seem like the type to hold much grudges but… probably has his own copy of templates in case they come back or someone wants them as starting points.

Kinda like how NHS has a tracing tool for shapes.

[Mbrimson88]

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I can understand the slick being heavy because the plastic does add weight but bbs boards have always been a bit heavier than PS stix.

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Both decks in question are BBS.

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Sorry I confused the welcome and the quasi.

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My welcome twin  was also BBS =)

Are all twins BBS these days?

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When did Welcome go BBS??? What is going on with the Professor? Did the Jason guy who owns welcome own the shapes as well?

From the Woodshop thread:


Welcome* 2021   ……….   ……….   BBS
Welcome* -2020   ……….   ……….   PS Stix


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.0

It’s a pstix conspiracy to keep the utility of a nose and tail

I was thinking that PS Stix never make twin boards, as was explained, he wanted to keep the nose and tail different angles.

Funny though cause I do think that having the same concave and angle on both kicks is good, just having the kicks different lengths allows for what he says is the multi tool, without needing to have one at 20 - 22 and the other at 22 - 23 degree angles.


As to who does twin boards, I think quite a few woodshops have a symmetrical mold now.  I would have to go back over the list of twins and compare them to the woodshops used, but PS Stix is maybe one of the big few who don't have a mold like that.

I think some brands were very secretive about where they got the twins from though.


Chems and Glider come to mind there.

[ImmanuelCunt]

I recently made some fotos of the TT shapes I have at home. (Imgur Album: https://imgur.com/a/qKOrLed)

left to right:  Crail, Owlien(BBS?!), Habitat(China), Dlx(IV)


left to right: Crail, Owlien(BBS?!), Habitat(China), Dlx(IV)


top to bottom: Crail, Owlien (BBS?!), Habitat (China), dlx (IV)


top to bottom: Crail, Dlx(IV), Owlien(BBS?!), Habitat(China)


top to bottom: Crail, Dlx(IV), Owlien(BBS?!), Habitat(China)


Pictures aren't perfect.
I hope i did not mix up the dlx II and IV on the side shots of the concave, when labeling.
Didn't do that when i took them, did it later and got it mixed up, which I realized when uploading.
IV is top blue, then yellow ply and a green bottom (real doves)
II is top yellow, the brown ply and a green bootom (krooked worrest).
If anybody wants to double check.

I have a non slick 8.3 dlx III twin as a wall hanger, which I forgot to include.
Did not want to redo it and the habitat is now mounted.
Sorry for the shitty floor.

Could provide photos of a lighlty skate 8.0 dlx TT as well, I don't own a dlx 8.25 anymore.

[GBLange]

I recently made some fotos of the TT shapes I have at home. (Imgur Album: https://imgur.com/a/qKOrLed)

left to right:  Crail, Owlien(BBS?!), Habitat(China), Dlx(IV)


left to right: Crail, Owlien(BBS?!), Habitat(China), Dlx(IV)


top to bottom: Crail, Owlien (BBS?!), Habitat (China), dlx (IV)


top to bottom: Crail, Dlx(IV), Owlien(BBS?!), Habitat(China)


top to bottom: Crail, Dlx(IV), Owlien(BBS?!), Habitat(China)


Pictures aren't perfect.
I hope i did not mix up the dlx II and IV on the side shots of the concave, when labeling.
Didn't do that when i took them, did it later and got it mixed up, which I realized when uploading.
IV is top blue, then yellow ply and a green bottom (real doves)
II is top yellow, the brown ply and a green bootom (krooked worrest).
If anybody wants to double check.

I have a non slick 8.3 dlx III twin as a wall hanger, which I forgot to include.
Did not want to redo it and the habitat is now mounted.
Sorry for the shitty floor.

Could provide photos of a lighlty skate 8.0 dlx TT as well, I don't own a dlx 8.25 anymore.

nice comparison..

[BartHarleyJarvis]

I recently made some fotos of the TT shapes I have at home. (Imgur Album: https://imgur.com/a/qKOrLed)

left to right:  Crail, Owlien(BBS?!), Habitat(China), Dlx(IV)


left to right: Crail, Owlien(BBS?!), Habitat(China), Dlx(IV)


top to bottom: Crail, Owlien (BBS?!), Habitat (China), dlx (IV)


top to bottom: Crail, Dlx(IV), Owlien(BBS?!), Habitat(China)


top to bottom: Crail, Dlx(IV), Owlien(BBS?!), Habitat(China)


Pictures aren't perfect.
I hope i did not mix up the dlx II and IV on the side shots of the concave, when labeling.
Didn't do that when i took them, did it later and got it mixed up, which I realized when uploading.
IV is top blue, then yellow ply and a green bottom (real doves)
II is top yellow, the brown ply and a green bootom (krooked worrest).
If anybody wants to double check.

I have a non slick 8.3 dlx III twin as a wall hanger, which I forgot to include.
Did not want to redo it and the habitat is now mounted.
Sorry for the shitty floor.

Could provide photos of a lighlty skate 8.0 dlx TT as well, I don't own a dlx 8.25 anymore.

That habitat shape is crazy. Great photos, thank you

[Mbrimson88]

I recently made some fotos of the TT shapes I have at home. (Imgur Album: https://imgur.com/a/qKOrLed)

left to right:  Crail, Owlien(BBS?!), Habitat(China), Dlx(IV)

left to right: Crail, Owlien(BBS?!), Habitat(China), Dlx(IV)

top to bottom: Crail, Owlien (BBS?!), Habitat (China), dlx (IV)

top to bottom: Crail, Dlx(IV), Owlien(BBS?!), Habitat(China)

top to bottom: Crail, Dlx(IV), Owlien(BBS?!), Habitat(China)


Pictures aren't perfect.
I hope i did not mix up the dlx II and IV on the side shots of the concave, when labeling.
Didn't do that when i took them, did it later and got it mixed up, which I realized when uploading.
IV is top blue, then yellow ply and a green bottom (real doves)
II is top yellow, the brown ply and a green bootom (krooked worrest).
If anybody wants to double check.

I have a non slick 8.3 dlx III twin as a wall hanger, which I forgot to include.
Did not want to redo it and the habitat is now mounted.
Sorry for the shitty floor.

Could provide photos of a lighlty skate 8.0 dlx TT as well, I don't own a dlx 8.25 anymore.

So good!!!

I always like comparing boards like this just to see differences in concave, press / mold length and angle of kicks.

The Owlien has got to be almost the steepest board I have had of any regular BBS board, which shows in this pic too.  That is not including the FA / Hockey or similar boards that are known for the steepest kicks.

[frank1175]

Hello twin friends. Is my assumption correct that all Ishod 8.3 twin slicks and Worrest 8.3 twin slicks are identical shapes, notwithstanding of the graphic?

I currently skate 8.3 shop blanks with the same specs as those Ishods/Worrests and also found a shop that has the BMW Ishods on sale so I figured I could stock up on those.

Who skates those, would you recommend them?