Mark Suciu 'Verso'

[planman]

But yes, gentrification can only be racially based, let's focus on a construct rather than something like class and the local labor market.

Do you have any idea what intersectionality is?

Gentrification in and of itself isn't necessarily a bad thing--it can be good for all parties involved. I live in Logan Square, Chicago so that technically makes me a gentrifier since I'm not Puerto Rican and middle-income. The difference is me and my roommates never once spent money at the gentrified-ass fake Mexican restaurant on our block that yuppies flock to for some reason, i.e. where you spend your dollars matters in the big picture nearly as much as actual housing. Not saying economic development is bad for communities because we all know it's not, but these developments ought to reflect the community and its interests because they were there first. If a hundred middle-class white people move to X neighborhood and buy all their groceries from the supermercado at the end of the block, their clothes from the thrift store a 15-min walk away, and go to the bar down the street that's been there 30 years, the community would--economically speaking; as cultural considerations also come into play--exist as it were before, if not better.

Still, the main problem is that there's no rent control and people get priced out. Even if families can continue to afford rent, who's to say they can afford to keep buying groceries in their own neighborhood? Not to mention culture which has persisted in communities for decades can get wiped clean in a matter of years at most (I live in Chicago, this is what's happening in Pilsen currently, see also: Humboldt Park, Logan Square, Wicker Park, Bronzeville, etc etc). Of course gentrification doesn't have an inherent racial basis, but labor and class intersect with race thanks to the institution of racism and existence of a de-jure-then-de-facto-but-still-secretly-de-jure racial hierarchy. That's why when we talk about gentrification it always ends up as a conversation about race because most people that live in cheap neighborhoods are black and brown.

I accidentally wrote this at 2am so hopefully it's readable

[Hideo Kojima]

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gentrification in skateboarder form

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not really
him being literate doesn't prevent illiterate people from skateboarding

it feels like it's the other way around sometimes in skateboarding.

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what even is gentrification these days

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Gentrification is when white people say 'this area is shit, make it nice' about lower-cost, often minority neighborhoods where residents have lived and possibly thrived for generations prior then someone comes in and adds a whole foods, some yoga studios, and yuppies move in and drive the cost of living up, displacing current residents. Then people say 'I liked it rugged before, you shouldn't have made it nice.'

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You seem a little confused about the whole process, so I revised your original post for both content and clarity. Let me know if you have any questions about the whole thing.

Ha SLAP's resident libtard and NY pro cocksucker.

[homegrown83]

Soooooo, does anybody want to upload that video instead of educating us what gentifrication is?

[HyperBeam]

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But yes, gentrification can only be racially based, let's focus on a construct rather than something like class and the local labor market.

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Do you have any idea what intersectionality is?

Gentrification in and of itself isn't necessarily a bad thing--it can be good for all parties involved. I live in Logan Square, Chicago so that technically makes me a gentrifier since I'm not Puerto Rican and middle-income. The difference is me and my roommates never once spent money at the gentrified-ass fake Mexican restaurant on our block that yuppies flock to for some reason, i.e. where you spend your dollars matters in the big picture nearly as much as actual housing. Not saying economic development is bad for communities because we all know it's not, but these developments ought to reflect the community and its interests because they were there first. If a hundred middle-class white people move to X neighborhood and buy all their groceries from the supermercado at the end of the block, their clothes from the thrift store a 15-min walk away, and go to the bar down the street that's been there 30 years, the community would--economically speaking; as cultural considerations also come into play--exist as it were before, if not better.

so are you a gentrifier or not?

[Deputy Wendell]

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But yes, gentrification can only be racially based, let's focus on a construct rather than something like class and the local labor market.

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Do you have any idea what intersectionality is?

Gentrification in and of itself isn't necessarily a bad thing--it can be good for all parties involved. I live in Logan Square, Chicago so that technically makes me a gentrifier since I'm not Puerto Rican and middle-income. The difference is me and my roommates never once spent money at the gentrified-ass fake Mexican restaurant on our block that yuppies flock to for some reason, i.e. where you spend your dollars matters in the big picture nearly as much as actual housing. Not saying economic development is bad for communities because we all know it's not, but these developments ought to reflect the community and its interests because they were there first. If a hundred middle-class white people move to X neighborhood and buy all their groceries from the supermercado at the end of the block, their clothes from the thrift store a 15-min walk away, and go to the bar down the street that's been there 30 years, the community would--economically speaking; as cultural considerations also come into play--exist as it were before, if not better.

Still, the main problem is that there's no rent control and people get priced out. Even if families can continue to afford rent, who's to say they can afford to keep buying groceries in their own neighborhood? Not to mention culture which has persisted in communities for decades can get wiped clean in a matter of years at most (I live in Chicago, this is what's happening in Pilsen currently, see also: Humboldt Park, Logan Square, Wicker Park, Bronzeville, etc etc). Of course gentrification doesn't have an inherent racial basis, but labor and class intersect with race thanks to the institution of racism and existence of a de-jure-then-de-facto-but-still-secretly-de-jure racial hierarchy. That's why when we talk about gentrification it always ends up as a conversation about race because most people that live in cheap neighborhoods are black and brown.

I accidentally wrote this at 2am so hopefully it's readable

"How Woke 'Liberals' Convince Themselves That Gentrifying is Okay":

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/evy3k7/how-woke-liberals-convince-themselves-that-gentrifying-is-okay

in general, fuck Vice, but this was based on an interesting research path

[planman]

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But yes, gentrification can only be racially based, let's focus on a construct rather than something like class and the local labor market.

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Do you have any idea what intersectionality is?

Gentrification in and of itself isn't necessarily a bad thing--it can be good for all parties involved. I live in Logan Square, Chicago so that technically makes me a gentrifier since I'm not Puerto Rican and middle-income. The difference is me and my roommates never once spent money at the gentrified-ass fake Mexican restaurant on our block that yuppies flock to for some reason, i.e. where you spend your dollars matters in the big picture nearly as much as actual housing. Not saying economic development is bad for communities because we all know it's not, but these developments ought to reflect the community and its interests because they were there first. If a hundred middle-class white people move to X neighborhood and buy all their groceries from the supermercado at the end of the block, their clothes from the thrift store a 15-min walk away, and go to the bar down the street that's been there 30 years, the community would--economically speaking; as cultural considerations also come into play--exist as it were before, if not better.

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so are you a gentrifier or not?

Yes because Logan Square isn't made up of black college students who live on <$800/mo.

Good read Deputy, thanks for the link.

[BehindTheLens]

What in the fuck did this thread turn into?

[conqueso]

just post the link...

[Nicki]

just post the link...

Amen to that! The vid can’t come soon enough to stop this subliterate arsehole convention.

[ballintoohard]

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But yes, gentrification can only be racially based, let's focus on a construct rather than something like class and the local labor market.

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Do you have any idea what intersectionality is?

Gentrification in and of itself isn't necessarily a bad thing--it can be good for all parties involved. I live in Logan Square, Chicago so that technically makes me a gentrifier since I'm not Puerto Rican and middle-income. The difference is me and my roommates never once spent money at the gentrified-ass fake Mexican restaurant on our block that yuppies flock to for some reason, i.e. where you spend your dollars matters in the big picture nearly as much as actual housing. Not saying economic development is bad for communities because we all know it's not, but these developments ought to reflect the community and its interests because they were there first. If a hundred middle-class white people move to X neighborhood and buy all their groceries from the supermercado at the end of the block, their clothes from the thrift store a 15-min walk away, and go to the bar down the street that's been there 30 years, the community would--economically speaking; as cultural considerations also come into play--exist as it were before, if not better.

Still, the main problem is that there's no rent control and people get priced out. Even if families can continue to afford rent, who's to say they can afford to keep buying groceries in their own neighborhood? Not to mention culture which has persisted in communities for decades can get wiped clean in a matter of years at most (I live in Chicago, this is what's happening in Pilsen currently, see also: Humboldt Park, Logan Square, Wicker Park, Bronzeville, etc etc). Of course gentrification doesn't have an inherent racial basis, but labor and class intersect with race thanks to the institution of racism and existence of a de-jure-then-de-facto-but-still-secretly-de-jure racial hierarchy. That's why when we talk about gentrification it always ends up as a conversation about race because most people that live in cheap neighborhoods are black and brown.

I accidentally wrote this at 2am so hopefully it's readable

I appreciate this- thanks for writing it. I agree with you and try to make sure I have the same habits with regards to businesses I do or do not support. But as a white male that moved at the start of the gentrification of my area, people seem to stop the conversation at skin color and not talk about the actual power one can exercise over where they live (small building, local long-term owner vs the new high rise).

[Tyroneshoelaces]

anything more annoying than a white person in their 20s or 30s who are proud they live in a shitty neighborhood?  asking as a black dude who left a shitty neighborhood.

where this part i'm trying to watch him gentrify these fucking spots, lets go!

[Iceman]

sigh... this bait and switch used butt wipe of a thread is still under photos/videos...

[Binomial Nomenclature]

Move this to "Whatever" and make a new thread when the part actually goes up. Then we can discuss the skateboarding in its own thread.

[Cool Ceith]

Move this to "Whatever" and make a new thread when the part actually goes up. Then we can discuss the skateboarding in its own thread.

Sounds like you're trying to gentrify this thread right out of its rightful community… or something.

[silhouette]

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Move this guy to "Whatever" the city and make a new thread part when the part rent actually goes up. Then we can discuss the skateboarding in its own thread.

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Sounds like you're trying to gentrify this thread right out of its rightful community… or something.

What I think I'm reading between the lines. Maybe?

[Lenny the Fatface]

Im very interested in where the 2020's version of the hipster will flock to. The whole reason cool people moved to the city was to avoid uptight suburban white people shit like noise complaints, and having clean up dog doo doo. With mass gentrification, the suburban culture followed them.


Im predicting 1960's esque commune culture will make a comeback. Theres just tons of areas in America that no one fucking lives at anymore, just ready to be repurposed into holistic nudist colonies.

[Rick_Kane]

anything more annoying than a white person in their 20s or 30s who are proud they live in a shitty neighborhood?  asking as a black dude who left a shitty neighborhood.

where this part i'm trying to watch him gentrify these fucking spots, lets go!

Five years ago, I lived in what you would call a "shitty neighborhood". It was a run down row house with four 1 bedroom units and my next door neighbor had at least 10 people living there and they also sold drugs out of the unit, and I would get crackheads pounding on my door in the middle of the night thinking it was their door. I would also get harassed at the taco stand across the street for being a white guy wanting tacos. I couldn't get out of there fast enough.

[Nicki]

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anything more annoying than a white person in their 20s or 30s who are proud they live in a shitty neighborhood?asking as a black dude who left a shitty neighborhood.

where this part i'm trying to watch him gentrify these fucking spots, lets go!

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Five years ago, I lived in what you would call a "shitty neighborhood". It was a run down row house with four 1 bedroom units and my next door neighbor had at least 10 people living there and they also sold drugs out of the unit, and I would get crackheads pounding on my door in the middle of the night thinking it was their door. I would also get harassed at the taco stand across the street for being a white guy wanting tacos. I couldn't get out of there fast enough.

Maybe a white dude who lives next to a crack den and moans about crackheads, and complains about being racially profiled at the taco stand. And then moves - but still bitches about it 5 years later.

[Silky Johnson]

So when's the video premiering?

[Ray C. Usery]

So when's the video premiering?

Heard it was gonna be up Friday 8/2/19 on Thrasher but no real confirmation.

[heckler]

It's been confirmed like, five times in this thread.

[homegrown83]

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So when's the video premiering?

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Heard it was gonna be up Friday 8/2/19 on Thrasher but no real confirmation.

Finally. End thread.

[coyote2425]

Soooooo, does anybody want to upload that video instead of educating us what gentifrication is?

[Nancy Chin The Manicurist]

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Soooooo, does anybody want to upload that video instead of educating us what gentifrication is?

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There’s no video to upload.


The video shown at the premiere was *technically* a work-in-progress, with the hopes of eventual completion before the August 2nd online upload.

He’s still out filming his ender ender.   

[behavioralguide]

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Soooooo, does anybody want to upload that video instead of educating us what gentifrication is?

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There’s no video to upload.


The video shown at the premiere was *technically* a work-in-progress, with the hopes of eventual completion before the August 2nd online upload.

He’s still out filming his ender ender.

The line to end all lines

[shannamal]

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Soooooo, does anybody want to upload that video instead of educating us what gentifrication is?

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There’s no video to upload.


The video shown at the premiere was *technically* a work-in-progress, with the hopes of eventual completion before the August 2nd online upload.

He’s still out filming his ender ender.

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The line to end all lines

imma fix wolves.

[behavioralguide]

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Soooooo, does anybody want to upload that video instead of educating us what gentifrication is?

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There’s no video to upload.


The video shown at the premiere was *technically* a work-in-progress, with the hopes of eventual completion before the August 2nd online upload.

He’s still out filming his ender ender.

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The line to end all lines

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imma fix wolves.

Takes out one beirut song and replaces it with 2 allah-las ones

[Nancy Chin The Manicurist]

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Soooooo, does anybody want to upload that video instead of educating us what gentifrication is?

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There’s no video to upload.


The video shown at the premiere was *technically* a work-in-progress, with the hopes of eventual completion before the August 2nd online upload.

He’s still out filming his ender ender.

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The line to end all lines

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imma fix wolves.

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Takes out one beirut song and replaces it with 2 allah-las ones

Off the top of my head I don’t remember how many Beirut songs he skates to (never a fan).......


.....but he skates to one song by Air.

[aloftystandard]

What the fuck? I come back here to see if maybe the video leaked yet and I stumble upon half baked discourse about gentrification? This is actually pretty great, and very much my lane. I think its important that we talk about these issues.

[concerned_parent]

where's this video part