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Re: SOBRIETY
« Reply #510 on: May 10, 2023, 12:44:29 PM »
Funny you guys are discussing ba beers today. I donít have an issue with alc free beer but usually just drink water. This week I am in Germany tho so I had a few alc free Hefeweizen, which are really good.

Tonight I ordered ę another one Ľ and  the waitress brought me a real beer by mistake. I immediately noticed the difference in taste but also a wave of alcohol flowing through my system. Very very lightly of course because it was only one big gulp I had taken.

This was the first time I míve had real beer in 3.5 years and man I wanted nothing more than guzzle it down. Scary. Luckily I managed to stay reasonable and just told the waitress there had been a mistake and she took the poison away. Close oneÖ
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« Reply #511 on: May 17, 2023, 11:44:40 AM »
Funny you guys are discussing ba beers today. I donít have an issue with alc free beer but usually just drink water. This week I am in Germany tho so I had a few alc free Hefeweizen, which are really good.

Tonight I ordered ę another one Ľ and  the waitress brought me a real beer by mistake. I immediately noticed the difference in taste but also a wave of alcohol flowing through my system. Very very lightly of course because it was only one big gulp I had taken.

This was the first time I míve had real beer in 3.5 years and man I wanted nothing more than guzzle it down. Scary. Luckily I managed to stay reasonable and just told the waitress there had been a mistake and she took the poison away. Close oneÖ

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Re: SOBRIETY
« Reply #512 on: May 19, 2023, 03:36:37 PM »
Sober friday buds. Drink coconut water instead

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« Reply #513 on: May 19, 2023, 06:49:22 PM »
Ayyyye.  I should get on the coconut water, could use the extra hydration, as Iíve been pretty shameless with my salt and sugar intake since starting this whole deal. 

My partnerís gone to visit family for the whole long weekend and Iím holding down the fort solo.  Canít lie and say that I wouldnít love to get twisted right now, but Iím gonna do a face steam, drink some tea, then wake up early and go for a massage tmrw instead.  Hope you all have a wonderful  and fulfilling weekend.

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Re: SOBRIETY
« Reply #514 on: May 20, 2023, 10:06:25 AM »
@Coastal Fever

You like hops? Hop water can be better than seltzers snd shit. Almost as expensive as beer but a nice treat
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Re: SOBRIETY
« Reply #515 on: May 20, 2023, 02:58:56 PM »
Honestly Iím not sure Iíve ever seen it anywhere?  But all my homebrews had Citra and Mosaic hops so Iím definitely interested.

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« Reply #516 on: May 20, 2023, 03:41:32 PM »
Going back to the original post, I've been sober since I was 16 and looking back, think it was a waste of time.

My original reasoning seemed logical. I was piling out on weekends from a young age, then decided I didn't like skating with a hangover so tapered drinking for the next few years until completely straight edge.

I'm already socially awkward, so no longer being the life of the party and having to interact with people in a honest way is uncomfortable for everyone. Since drinking/bars/clubs are our social commonality, I tended to hang out with sober weirdos and my social group became smaller and smaller (I've hung out with friends at bars and they always have a problem with you not drinking booze). Now as an adult, I actively avoid socializing, don't go to work functions or "networking", and since everyone who didn't drink before now drinks heavily, don't hang out with anyone. Back when I'd run into an old skate friend and say "let's meet up to skate", now they want to meet at a bar (even if they still skate). I think drinking is just too embedded as a social pillar in our society to completely omit it from your life.

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Re: SOBRIETY
« Reply #517 on: May 20, 2023, 08:55:43 PM »
Going back to the original post, I've been sober since I was 16 and looking back, think it was a waste of time.

My original reasoning seemed logical. I was piling out on weekends from a young age, then decided I didn't like skating with a hangover so tapered drinking for the next few years until completely straight edge.

I'm already socially awkward, so no longer being the life of the party and having to interact with people in a honest way is uncomfortable for everyone. Since drinking/bars/clubs are our social commonality, I tended to hang out with sober weirdos and my social group became smaller and smaller (I've hung out with friends at bars and they always have a problem with you not drinking booze). Now as an adult, I actively avoid socializing, don't go to work functions or "networking", and since everyone who didn't drink before now drinks heavily, don't hang out with anyone. Back when I'd run into an old skate friend and say "let's meet up to skate", now they want to meet at a bar (even if they still skate). I think drinking is just too embedded as a social pillar in our society to completely omit it from your life.

Alcohol sucks and people on alcohol often suck as well. If people have a problem with you not drinking, they dont care about you.

But if you feel this way, idk what you do or how old you are, but go drink and tear it up if you think its going to make your life better!
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Re: SOBRIETY
« Reply #518 on: May 21, 2023, 04:05:38 AM »
Funny you guys are discussing ba beers today. I donít have an issue with alc free beer but usually just drink water. This week I am in Germany tho so I had a few alc free Hefeweizen, which are really good.

Tonight I ordered ę another one Ľ and  the waitress brought me a real beer by mistake. I immediately noticed the difference in taste but also a wave of alcohol flowing through my system. Very very lightly of course because it was only one big gulp I had taken.

This was the first time I míve had real beer in 3.5 years and man I wanted nothing more than guzzle it down. Scary. Luckily I managed to stay reasonable and just told the waitress there had been a mistake and she took the poison away. Close oneÖ


Cheers to you for not falling into the thinking error of "oh, it's an accident, it was meant for me", etc, etc, etc.....

I like NA beers just because it's tied into listening to records, painting & watching Pro Wrestling for me. I'll also have one if I am doing a ton of yard work etc. It's nice & for me, it hits that same spot of wanting a beer. However, I understand how for some, this may be a "slippery slope" as everyone's addiction, experiences, needs vary so again, not for everyone. I will say that it is cool that more places have them as I was in Brooklyn yesterday & the spot had em so since I drove all of the pals, they bought, so I had two of the Samuel Adams ones. Anyway, remember that the fact that you are all thinking you should change in regards to drinking is huge. So if that means cutting back, cutting it out, whatever the case may be, that is a victory in itself.

Too many people I see from when I was younger have just let alcohol consume them. My old roommate was seen by my pals a few weeks back & he was essentially unrecognizable from all of his drinking. I guess one of the other guys that were with my pals said that guy looks like he's 50. How do you know him....just a shame....

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Re: SOBRIETY
« Reply #519 on: May 21, 2023, 08:16:06 AM »
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Funny you guys are discussing ba beers today. I donít have an issue with alc free beer but usually just drink water. This week I am in Germany tho so I had a few alc free Hefeweizen, which are really good.

Tonight I ordered ę another one Ľ and  the waitress brought me a real beer by mistake. I immediately noticed the difference in taste but also a wave of alcohol flowing through my system. Very very lightly of course because it was only one big gulp I had taken.

This was the first time I míve had real beer in 3.5 years and man I wanted nothing more than guzzle it down. Scary. Luckily I managed to stay reasonable and just told the waitress there had been a mistake and she took the poison away. Close oneÖ
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Cheers to you for not falling into the thinking error of "oh, it's an accident, it was meant for me", etc, etc, etc.....

I like NA beers just because it's tied into listening to records, painting & watching Pro Wrestling for me. I'll also have one if I am doing a ton of yard work etc. It's nice & for me, it hits that same spot of wanting a beer. However, I understand how for some, this may be a "slippery slope" as everyone's addiction, experiences, needs vary so again, not for everyone. I will say that it is cool that more places have them as I was in Brooklyn yesterday & the spot had em so since I drove all of the pals, they bought, so I had two of the Samuel Adams ones. Anyway, remember that the fact that you are all thinking you should change in regards to drinking is huge. So if that means cutting back, cutting it out, whatever the case may be, that is a victory in itself.

Too many people I see from when I was younger have just let alcohol consume them. My old roommate was seen by my pals a few weeks back & he was essentially unrecognizable from all of his drinking. I guess one of the other guys that were with my pals said that guy looks like he's 50. How do you know him....just a shame....

I rarely drinks NA beers anymore, because of the price and caloriesÖ.but those Sammy Adams NAís are some of the best ones out. Very refreshing and tasty.

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Re: SOBRIETY
« Reply #520 on: May 21, 2023, 10:10:59 AM »
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Going back to the original post, I've been sober since I was 16 and looking back, think it was a waste of time.

My original reasoning seemed logical. I was piling out on weekends from a young age, then decided I didn't like skating with a hangover so tapered drinking for the next few years until completely straight edge.

I'm already socially awkward, so no longer being the life of the party and having to interact with people in a honest way is uncomfortable for everyone. Since drinking/bars/clubs are our social commonality, I tended to hang out with sober weirdos and my social group became smaller and smaller (I've hung out with friends at bars and they always have a problem with you not drinking booze). Now as an adult, I actively avoid socializing, don't go to work functions or "networking", and since everyone who didn't drink before now drinks heavily, don't hang out with anyone. Back when I'd run into an old skate friend and say "let's meet up to skate", now they want to meet at a bar (even if they still skate). I think drinking is just too embedded as a social pillar in our society to completely omit it from your life.
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Alcohol sucks and people on alcohol often suck as well. If people have a problem with you not drinking, they dont care about you.

But if you feel this way, idk what you do or how old you are, but go drink and tear it up if you think its going to make your life better!

I agree, fuck those people. In general though, I think it's a natural (but not healthy) reaction to get bummed out that someone in your group is doing something else.

I've been sober too long to start now. But looking back, I sometimes wonder if doing something you're not really into, yet not completely against, is such a bad thing if it makes you a more socially adjusted person overall. For example, working in certain industries is dependent on your ability to network and seem like an interesting person during social mixers (and not seem like a freak in the process). If that is a complete turn off, you just won't get jobs because of it.

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Re: SOBRIETY
« Reply #521 on: May 21, 2023, 08:12:02 PM »
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Funny you guys are discussing ba beers today. I donít have an issue with alc free beer but usually just drink water. This week I am in Germany tho so I had a few alc free Hefeweizen, which are really good.

Tonight I ordered ę another one Ľ and  the waitress brought me a real beer by mistake. I immediately noticed the difference in taste but also a wave of alcohol flowing through my system. Very very lightly of course because it was only one big gulp I had taken.

This was the first time I míve had real beer in 3.5 years and man I wanted nothing more than guzzle it down. Scary. Luckily I managed to stay reasonable and just told the waitress there had been a mistake and she took the poison away. Close oneÖ
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Cheers to you for not falling into the thinking error of "oh, it's an accident, it was meant for me", etc, etc, etc.....

I like NA beers just because it's tied into listening to records, painting & watching Pro Wrestling for me. I'll also have one if I am doing a ton of yard work etc. It's nice & for me, it hits that same spot of wanting a beer. However, I understand how for some, this may be a "slippery slope" as everyone's addiction, experiences, needs vary so again, not for everyone. I will say that it is cool that more places have them as I was in Brooklyn yesterday & the spot had em so since I drove all of the pals, they bought, so I had two of the Samuel Adams ones. Anyway, remember that the fact that you are all thinking you should change in regards to drinking is huge. So if that means cutting back, cutting it out, whatever the case may be, that is a victory in itself.

Too many people I see from when I was younger have just let alcohol consume them. My old roommate was seen by my pals a few weeks back & he was essentially unrecognizable from all of his drinking. I guess one of the other guys that were with my pals said that guy looks like he's 50. How do you know him....just a shame....

I like the taste of non-alcoholic beer. But they also make me really start craving actual beer. So I steer clear of them and just do sparking waters instead. Rad that they seem to scratch the itch for a lot of you guys without being a slippery slope like they are for me though!

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Re: SOBRIETY
« Reply #522 on: May 22, 2023, 09:50:42 AM »
@Coastal Fever @mrkamikaze

Alcohol made nothing betterÖ i mean shitty situations seemed more tolerable, but thats it. Alcohol made me ok about mediocrity and feeling poorly. Numbed out feeling deeply. Anyways, thats my take on it for today.

Love to you dudes. Love yourselves

just wanna say IUTSM you hit the nail on the head with how I feel about quitting drinking. I feel like Iíve never been able to articulate it well but that hit homeÖ

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Re: SOBRIETY
« Reply #523 on: May 22, 2023, 12:53:08 PM »
So I'm over 5 years off smack and crack, best decision I ever made and haven't had any overwhelming urge to go back to that lifestyle. However, I had been tossing around the idea of maybe smoking weed again, being that it's legal and all. Now I smoked weed everyday for over 10 years, so it's not my first rodeo but hadn't smoked in 5 years. So Saturday night I decide to take a puff off of a dab/concentrate pen before I went to bed, proceeding to take a mondo rip. As soon as I exhale, I knew I had made a bad decision and within minutes was in full-blown panic mode, with my heart racing a mile-a-minute and my mind going haywire. It was so fucking overwhelming, like bad mushroom trip vibes where I'm getting extremely existential about my life and wondering if I'm finally going to lose my shit. A disconnect between my brain and my ability to move then set in, literally having to tell my brain to move my arms and legs when the vomit started to flow. Threw up some very nice, acidic contents off and on for an undetermined amount of time, passing out on the floor of my bathroom with my cat nuzzling me. Somehow made it back to bed and then nothing, woke up however many hours later feeling extremely ill, much the same feeling when I OD'd on smack many moons ago. Now you can argue that 92% concentrate is different than smoking flower and you're right, but the key takeaway from this experience is that I'm definitely not going to be picking up any form of marijuana for the foreseeable future. Sometimes in sobriety, especially with coexisting mental health issues, you crave another form of escape when you can't seem to shake the mental health paradigm you're trapped in, and this is coming off 5 years of being free from street/prescription drug abuse. In my case, sobriety is 100% beneficial to me, I couldn't function without it, but that escapism still rears its ugly head from time to time and in this instance definitely showed me that I don't need to be doing anything else than what I'm currently doing, it's just not for me anymore.
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Re: SOBRIETY
« Reply #524 on: May 22, 2023, 05:52:37 PM »
@Huell Howser

yo brother, glad those words worked for your process of thinking. Bukowski and Burroughs way of being ain't too cool when you're living it, as thats what was happening for me. Sitting in dive bars scribbling the need for escape on napkins as if making notes of it was of more importance or value than getting out of it. Bleh.

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yo dude, dabs, hash, concentrates are not for me, someone who uses weed in various ways on a pretty regular basis, a big no way. those panic attacks are awful. 1 or 2 wacks of some clean flower or a small dose edible are juuuuust enough for me. sorry to hear your experience was so brutal. But hey, man, 5 years of dope and crack is huge. I'm glad you're alive. I wish everyone could make it like that. Sounds like you are hanging in there and got a decent thing going on. I go on weed benders every now and again. Some kratom benders a few times over the years (bleh) and it all is kinda lame but harm reductionist for me. Really though, the best thing ive found is when im in a regular meditation practice. Not that you asked, jist got me thinking.


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there's a big homeless population where i'm living and it's but for the grace of the god, the support i've got, and some willpower that I didn't end up on the streets, you know? I see these cats tweaking or on whatever the dope is nowadays, mental illness, poor health etc, and i'm like "damn, it could have been me." I lived with this huge, monstrous survivors guilt complex for years when my good friends starting dying. I've worked through it and it's good, I'm grateful to be where i'm at, let alone alive and thriving.

So today, I'm skating this DIY spot on the side of a road and this cat comes by and starts chopping it up with me. He's got all sorts of stuff in his arms, looked like he was carrying it to build a shelter. Dude starts talking with me about skating and how he doesn't skate anymore but has the "curse of the skater vision... everything's a spot!" I give him a pound and get back to skating. think nothing of it other than "alright, that dude has some shit going on but was pleasant enough." so I move onto the next spot an hour later and dude comes out of the woods and starts chopping it up again, looks at the ledge i'm skating and is like "dude, you need some wax! I've got candles you can have." I'm like "nah bro, it's cool... i'll just go faster." He walks over to the ledge and runs his hand along the top of it and says very gently "dude, you really need some wax. this is dried out!" I keep skating and a bit later he comes up and hands me a nub from an emergency candle and says "go wax that thing, dude. get it. noseslide, right? go land that." So i wax the fucking top of the ledge and start landing the damn noseslides. Meanwhile, dude is messing with a basketball that was on the court and draining threes, kinda running solo drills, talking to himself a bit. he's got moves like he definitely played ball at another point in life. We start shooting the shit about skating for a minute again and I'm seeing that this cat is probably a few years younger than me and let him push around on my board and he's saying "not talking shit, but this board is loosey goosey and heavy... (DOA, Aces, 56mm loopholes) you got mad pop but you gotta get an element or something light and you'll be ollieing 6 decks dude..." I laughed and kept skating while he was doing his thing and I give him the $2 in my pocket, because you know, he's living in a tent and is obviously struggling, and I'm well, housed, fed, in love, got everything i could want and a dog to boot. two bucks is whatever to me most of the time. not even a cup of coffee without another 30 cents.

So I'm making my way out of the spot and i skate over to this cat and says "hey man, thanks again for the wax. what's your name?" and he says "i'm xxxxxxxxxxx, i live right over here behind the creek...." and no joke this dude's got the same name as a nickname that people used to call me til I moved to the west coast and got my shit together. I'm like "thanks for the wax and the chat, man. stay safe over there, you know?" I'm skating away and he says "hey, you know anyone with some percs?" I'm really thrown now because he's obviously from the east coast calling em percs and those are what took everyone from my generation out. I say "nah man, can't help ya there." He says to me "right on, well, if you ever have a spare board, i could use one. i camp right over there..."

Pals, it was a what the fuckity fuck sorta moment. Sad and again, i'm real grateful to be where i'm at. happy to be alive. happy you are all alive.

love to you all and love yourselves.
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Re: SOBRIETY
« Reply #525 on: May 23, 2023, 04:32:06 AM »
@Huell Howser

yo brother, glad those words worked for your process of thinking. Bukowski and Burroughs way of being ain't too cool when you're living it, as thats what was happening for me. Sitting in dive bars scribbling the need for escape on napkins as if making notes of it was of more importance or value than getting out of it. Bleh.

@Jim and Dan

yo dude, dabs, hash, concentrates are not for me, someone who uses weed in various ways on a pretty regular basis, a big no way. those panic attacks are awful. 1 or 2 wacks of some clean flower or a small dose edible are juuuuust enough for me. sorry to hear your experience was so brutal. But hey, man, 5 years of dope and crack is huge. I'm glad you're alive. I wish everyone could make it like that. Sounds like you are hanging in there and got a decent thing going on. I go on weed benders every now and again. Some kratom benders a few times over the years (bleh) and it all is kinda lame but harm reductionist for me. Really though, the best thing ive found is when im in a regular meditation practice. Not that you asked, jist got me thinking.


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there's a big homeless population where i'm living and it's but for the grace of the god, the support i've got, and some willpower that I didn't end up on the streets, you know? I see these cats tweaking or on whatever the dope is nowadays, mental illness, poor health etc, and i'm like "damn, it could have been me." I lived with this huge, monstrous survivors guilt complex for years when my good friends starting dying. I've worked through it and it's good, I'm grateful to be where i'm at, let alone alive and thriving.

So today, I'm skating this DIY spot on the side of a road and this cat comes by and starts chopping it up with me. He's got all sorts of stuff in his arms, looked like he was carrying it to build a shelter. Dude starts talking with me about skating and how he doesn't skate anymore but has the "curse of the skater vision... everything's a spot!" I give him a pound and get back to skating. think nothing of it other than "alright, that dude has some shit going on but was pleasant enough." so I move onto the next spot an hour later and dude comes out of the woods and starts chopping it up again, looks at the ledge i'm skating and is like "dude, you need some wax! I've got candles you can have." I'm like "nah bro, it's cool... i'll just go faster." He walks over to the ledge and runs his hand along the top of it and says very gently "dude, you really need some wax. this is dried out!" I keep skating and a bit later he comes up and hands me a nub from an emergency candle and says "go wax that thing, dude. get it. noseslide, right? go land that." So i wax the fucking top of the ledge and start landing the damn noseslides. Meanwhile, dude is messing with a basketball that was on the court and draining threes, kinda running solo drills, talking to himself a bit. he's got moves like he definitely played ball at another point in life. We start shooting the shit about skating for a minute again and I'm seeing that this cat is probably a few years younger than me and let him push around on my board and he's saying "not talking shit, but this board is loosey goosey and heavy... (DOA, Aces, 56mm loopholes) you got mad pop but you gotta get an element or something light and you'll be ollieing 6 decks dude..." I laughed and kept skating while he was doing his thing and I give him the $2 in my pocket, because you know, he's living in a tent and is obviously struggling, and I'm well, housed, fed, in love, got everything i could want and a dog to boot. two bucks is whatever to me most of the time. not even a cup of coffee without another 30 cents.

So I'm making my way out of the spot and i skate over to this cat and says "hey man, thanks again for the wax. what's your name?" and he says "i'm xxxxxxxxxxx, i live right over here behind the creek...." and no joke this dude's got the same name as a nickname that people used to call me til I moved to the west coast and got my shit together. I'm like "thanks for the wax and the chat, man. stay safe over there, you know?" I'm skating away and he says "hey, you know anyone with some percs?" I'm really thrown now because he's obviously from the east coast calling em percs and those are what took everyone from my generation out. I say "nah man, can't help ya there." He says to me "right on, well, if you ever have a spare board, i could use one. i camp right over there..."

Pals, it was a what the fuckity fuck sorta moment. Sad and again, i'm real grateful to be where i'm at. happy to be alive. happy you are all alive.

love to you all and love yourselves.

@IusedToSkateMore thank you for the good words mate, always helps to hear some positive reinforcement in periods of relative isolation. I know you are totally correct regarding the meditation, I've gone through so many different therapy groups with meditation aspects and I know they are integrating it into a lot of AWOL/AA programs, funny to think of my 61 year old father doing guided meditations weekly but I just never stuck with. The irony is that I grew up in circles where things like meditation, yoga and emotional healing where core principals, I just never gravitated to them, probably because they where instilled by my mother and a lot of my issues in my teens and 20's were rooted with her. I'll also 2nd the motion that romanticizing Burroughs and Bukowski is definitely something different when you are living it, the former wholeheartedly being an influence on my interest in junk. When you're young you don't understand the ramifications of these choices, it seems like it's going to be all fun and games, you're an "artist", whatever bullshit you use to justify the choices throughout your life, never realizing this shit just doesn't go away and even if it does, it never really does. The monkey never dies and you don't see too many old junkies.
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Re: SOBRIETY
« Reply #526 on: May 26, 2023, 05:45:26 AM »
Iíll delete this if anyone finds it triggering, but after a few weeks of not even having non-alcoholic beer, I picked up a sixer of Bud Zero and I fucking loved it.  Which is funny because I was strictly a juicy IPA guy while boozing, and I find most na beers disgusting, but this one reeeally hits the spot on a hot day. 

Thankfully, I didnít miss the buzz aspect at all, I just truly enjoyed the taste a lot.  Iím a little nervous that Iím unwittingly leading myself back down a slippery slope towards the real thing.. but I love being sober, so Iíd like to think that Iíve actually just found a healthier replacement, that provides the same refreshment I used to seek from drinking.

*this post was not in any way paid for or supported by Budweiser Zero, 0.0% alcohol beer.

i've gone from being a heavy drinker (4-6 drinks a day) to an occasional drinker where I drink 3-4 days a week now. i know that's still a decent amount but i drink less when i do and half the time. NA beers have been a cool thing lately for me and figured i'd share. on days that i do drink i'll lean no NAs to drink less and then on days i don't drink i've been drinking them and i've realized that i really just enjoy relaxing with a beer with or without alcohol. current favorite is stella. my wife is much more hardcore than me when it comes to not drinking and she was more of a wine drinker than beer drinker but she's really gotten into the NA beers.

for both of us alcohol is more about how it effects our sleep. ive been tracking my sleep score with my garmin for a good bit and it's been really helpful as it gives me a very clear view of the effect that drinks have on me. you even start to understand the difference between two beers with dinner versus right before bed.

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« Reply #527 on: May 27, 2023, 06:59:08 AM »
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Iíll delete this if anyone finds it triggering, but after a few weeks of not even having non-alcoholic beer, I picked up a sixer of Bud Zero and I fucking loved it.  Which is funny because I was strictly a juicy IPA guy while boozing, and I find most na beers disgusting, but this one reeeally hits the spot on a hot day. 

Thankfully, I didnít miss the buzz aspect at all, I just truly enjoyed the taste a lot.  Iím a little nervous that Iím unwittingly leading myself back down a slippery slope towards the real thing.. but I love being sober, so Iíd like to think that Iíve actually just found a healthier replacement, that provides the same refreshment I used to seek from drinking.

*this post was not in any way paid for or supported by Budweiser Zero, 0.0% alcohol beer.
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i've gone from being a heavy drinker (4-6 drinks a day) to an occasional drinker where I drink 3-4 days a week now. i know that's still a decent amount but i drink less when i do and half the time. NA beers have been a cool thing lately for me and figured i'd share. on days that i do drink i'll lean no NAs to drink less and then on days i don't drink i've been drinking them and i've realized that i really just enjoy relaxing with a beer with or without alcohol. current favorite is stella. my wife is much more hardcore than me when it comes to not drinking and she was more of a wine drinker than beer drinker but she's really gotten into the NA beers.

for both of us alcohol is more about how it effects our sleep. ive been tracking my sleep score with my garmin for a good bit and it's been really helpful as it gives me a very clear view of the effect that drinks have on me. you even start to understand the difference between two beers with dinner versus right before bed.

My sleep has also improved immensely without alcohol. 6/18 I hit one year!

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Re: SOBRIETY
« Reply #528 on: May 27, 2023, 07:11:23 PM »
I still dream of drugs all the time.
This week was


At my grandma's house mixed with a mansion, upstairs I find bag of xans, can't loose them, enjoying the dream architecture vibe, the xans start dissolving before I can take one, big nightmare vibes, wake up

At apt with videogame type view with two twinks, they have like a pound of meth, twink puts his butt on me, I'm not gay but it was kinda nice, they leave and I steal it but only half because I didn't even want to deal with it even in my dream

That dream was also wierd cuz it was almost a gay dream like wtf

I been dreaming for like 7 months straight every night since no drugs

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Re: SOBRIETY
« Reply #529 on: May 28, 2023, 01:07:56 AM »
sobriety is cool even if you lose friends...
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Re: SOBRIETY
« Reply #530 on: May 28, 2023, 10:12:05 AM »
sobriety is cool even if you lose friends...
stay high, lay low