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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #30 on: October 08, 2019, 03:48:07 AM »
Step 1: Build demand
Step 2: Sell out

Exactly.

Remember when the Berrics claimed it was a non-comercial project that didn't advertise at all?
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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #31 on: October 08, 2019, 04:14:09 AM »
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Common misconception, Australia is not America and until it happens in the US it ain’t real

Don’t get me wrong either, I love OZ. Just not spider season.
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It won't happen in the US because, as far as I'm aware, there isn't a skater-run shop that would be willing for Zumiez to buy them out and use their brand name to uphold the guise of "core" while opening franchises in malls across the country.

Say what you will about him, Sean Pablo pulled his clothes out of Fast Times once he learned it was effectively a zumiez-in-disguise. Older personnel at fast times (from when it was PSC) do a good job of fostering a sense of skate-shop community with prems, hooking people up, and supporting local skaters. But the zumiez buyout and the opening of new stores is still a pretty dangerous trend for smaller shops - especially when they have accounts with brands that are very hard to access elsewhere. I think there's a disconnect between smaller US/International brands and Aus Shops about who they're opening an account with but it is a large market so who can blame them really. Brands like Passport wouldn't be able to thrive on skaters alone buying their clothes and boards, and Fast Times brings in a steady stream of people with cash who are adjacent to/interested in skateboarding aesthetics.
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was good to see bryce golder, callum paul & half the team quit once zumiez bought in.
huge respect to public skate shop when they broke away and formed.

the disconnect between usa brands and aus shops is real.
definitely a double stand or being fooled on the premise of fast times being a core store.
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Totally, and it's a shame because public skate shop would've done much better if it had exclusive accounts with smaller brands like Polar, hockey/FA, Dime, 917, Palace, Frog, etc. - but it had to compete with all these brands being available at a zumiez right in the city centre. As I said though, I understand because it is a big account and international market for these small-ish brands. Public had a really cool image while Fast Times has almost none - and their shop stuff seems to just be lukewarm polar/passport knockoffs.

Also, this disconnect may be furthered by the fact that Casey Foley, who champions underground skating, is a store manager and does ordering. Similarly, it's easier to come off as core when you can point to a team with guys like tom snape, geoff campbell, quayde baker, gabbers, etc. (https://fasttimes.com.au/teamriders). But it is again a totally different dynamic to the US.

We have one of those so called core shops in our city: Bonkers (https://www.bonkers-shop.com/de/), which has  one of those exclusive accounts with Nike SB. Bonkers is mostly a fashion store, which sells limited edition products to Japan and Hong-Kong. The shop does one skate event a year and employs skaters, though. I feel that brands like Nike and adidas mostly use these small stores as marketing for their product lines. The stores will give their coolness capital to these large corporations and in turn get to peddle some exclusive shoes (which are cheap to produce for companies like Nike anyway). These drops, which are widely discussed in the scene of the shoe fetishists, are great marketing for Nike SB and Nike in general. 
All the owner of Bonkers ever worries about is his status on the Nike SB list of cool retailers. He's now number two in Germany behind the civilist store in Berlin. Most of the things he does as the owner of the shop reflects his fear of losing that rank. He will not sell local brands that are deemed not cool enough and his store looks like a little fashion boutique.

Granted, I am pretty old but the concept of the exclusive core shop like Bonkers is some bull shit. For me a core skateshop is a shop that mostly sells skateboards and that skaters actually go to and like to hang out at. A good skateshop also chooses its products not by exclusivity and coolness, but by quality and skateability.

I don't blame Bonkers and shops like them. If Bonkers didn't go the exclusive route it would probably be out of business. There are two large skateshops in the city with good connections to distributors, who would make it very difficult for them to get some of the regular skate products.

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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #32 on: October 08, 2019, 04:17:21 AM »
It sucks that Public wasn't able to survive... but with that being said, everyone from Fast times has been nothing but cool to me. I remember coming to Melbourne as an 18-year-old and going to fast times to get a board or something and Mappy telling me which trams to take to get to Lincoln. I'll go in and have a chat with Casey about form mag. I couldn't care less if it was acquired by Zumiez or sell stussy. They put on for the local scene and that's all that matters really.

any skate shop in the world would help traveling skaters find local spots, that’s normal.
beacause of the bro-down factor of Casey/mappy amongst skaters/brands are they ground zero helping all the legit skate shops close down by pushing the zumiez train into every city?

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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #33 on: October 08, 2019, 05:02:10 AM »
Anyone know where I can get a good pair of carhartt cargo pants ? Looked online and they were like 130 bucks...Might have to just keep trying my luck with army surplus.

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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #34 on: October 08, 2019, 05:09:08 AM »
Hockey and FA pulled all stock from fast times a year or two back after finding out about the zumiez deal. So it is surprising to see that they decided to go back to being stocked in fast times stores again
The article is 3 years old.
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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #35 on: October 08, 2019, 05:14:09 AM »
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Hockey and FA pulled all stock from fast times a year or two back after finding out about the zumiez deal. So it is surprising to see that they decided to go back to being stocked in fast times stores again
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The article is 3 years old.

The article is just about the zumiez purchase of fast times, which they still own. Hockey/FA are both available in Fast Times today.
So Colllin have the same t-shirts, seven years by now, at least...

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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #36 on: October 08, 2019, 05:59:09 AM »
After all the discussion in Dill's Epicly Later'd by AVE "Fuck Zumiez" etc, Gino in print, They have now become just like every other brand sitting in a mall store. I thought these guys gave a shit!

https://mr-mag.com/zumiez-acquires-australian-skate-retailer-fast-times/

Zumiez owns Fast Times,
Fast Times stock Hockey & Fucking Awesome

They give a shit. Bout yo money. Big fucking surprise from upriver Dill

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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #37 on: October 08, 2019, 09:17:34 AM »
Eventually every brand that wants to survive will be forced to go to Zumiez or other big mall stores if you want to profit and continue growth.  Sad truth is the core shops don't buy enough to have the brand survive. 

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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #38 on: October 08, 2019, 09:18:56 AM »
Zumiez wouldn't be all that bad if they would hire people who actually skate.
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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #39 on: October 08, 2019, 09:19:21 AM »
Zumiez wouldn't be all that bad if they would hire people who actually skate.
i look forward to you posting anything of value on here. something tells me its gonna be a long wait.
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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #40 on: October 08, 2019, 09:19:29 AM »
Eventually every brand that wants to survive will be forced to go to Zumiez or other big mall stores if you want to profit and continue growth.  Sad truth is the core shops don't buy enough to have the brand survive.

More like because everyone sells direct to consumer now - a trend fa/hockey heavily influenced.

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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #41 on: October 08, 2019, 09:22:28 AM »
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Zumiez wouldn't be all that bad if they would hire people who actually skate.
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i look forward to you posting anything of value on here. something tells me its gonna be a long wait.

Just follow me around. You'll find something eventually.

Or you can just continue to whine like a poosey. Either way.
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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #42 on: October 08, 2019, 09:23:11 AM »
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Eventually every brand that wants to survive will be forced to go to Zumiez or other big mall stores if you want to profit and continue growth.  Sad truth is the core shops don't buy enough to have the brand survive.
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More like because everyone sells direct to consumer now - a trend fa/hockey heavily influenced.

This. Why sell a deck to a shop for $35 when you can sell direct to consumer for $60? Cut out the middle man and keep the profit. Making an extra $20 per board as a company is huge.

I do like what Quasi does, they let the shops get the drop first, then open up the direct to consumer release.

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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #43 on: October 08, 2019, 09:24:42 AM »
So I guess I’ll just continue to not give a fuck about them.

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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #44 on: October 08, 2019, 09:33:22 AM »
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Eventually every brand that wants to survive will be forced to go to Zumiez or other big mall stores if you want to profit and continue growth.  Sad truth is the core shops don't buy enough to have the brand survive.
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More like because everyone sells direct to consumer now - a trend fa/hockey heavily influenced.

I was referring to the brand, yes direct to consumer kills your core shop, but brands need places like Zumiez for their buying power. 

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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #45 on: October 08, 2019, 09:37:48 AM »
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Eventually every brand that wants to survive will be forced to go to Zumiez or other big mall stores if you want to profit and continue growth.  Sad truth is the core shops don't buy enough to have the brand survive.
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More like because everyone sells direct to consumer now - a trend fa/hockey heavily influenced.
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I was referring to the brand, yes direct to consumer kills your core shop, but brands need places like Zumiez for their buying power.

Don't rule out a soft good line. Palace wouldn't be what it is today without their softgoods.

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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #46 on: October 08, 2019, 10:35:24 AM »
Someone plz photoshop that dill doll sitting on a couch in a zoomez

Sean Paulo stuck a zuoomiez sticker on a cop car

kb stole 10 packs of swiss bearings

the manager gets to shop for groceries  with gino for the 100k party at bams castle in denver

aden macky gripped my board but insisted on grizzly when i really wanted weed mob grip

this merger of FAhoCKey and zumiez is a big move

mark gonxalez is gonna pul crooked from the shelves of zumiez right

why doesn't chico brines have his own board brand yet? does chico ever go to zumiez in SF?

nothing's been the since same

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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #47 on: October 08, 2019, 11:06:56 AM »
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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #48 on: October 08, 2019, 11:14:52 AM »
Damn I would not have ever expected Dill to be a huge sellout. Never never never.

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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #49 on: October 08, 2019, 11:24:29 AM »
Zumiez wouldn't be all that bad if they would hire people who actually skate.

currently working at a zumiez where a large part of my coworkers do skate, which started because they working here. if anything, sometimes it'll influence people to start, which... is a good thing(?)


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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #50 on: October 08, 2019, 11:26:38 AM »
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Eventually every brand that wants to survive will be forced to go to Zumiez or other big mall stores if you want to profit and continue growth.  Sad truth is the core shops don't buy enough to have the brand survive.
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More like because everyone sells direct to consumer now - a trend fa/hockey heavily influenced.
Not DLX...Think of all the $$ they leave on the table by not selling direct on their site(s). Jim for the win(again).

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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #51 on: October 08, 2019, 11:29:49 AM »
Damn I would not have ever expected Dill to be a huge sellout. Never never never.

What about Dill cuddling up to the Osbournes? What was his goal with that whole situation? A genuine friendship or an opportunity to wear a DVS and Sovereign Sect gear on MTV?
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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #52 on: October 08, 2019, 11:32:39 AM »
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Damn I would not have ever expected Dill to be a huge sellout. Never never never.
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What about Dill cuddling up to the Osbournes?





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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #53 on: October 08, 2019, 11:34:24 AM »
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Zumiez wouldn't be all that bad if they would hire people who actually skate.
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currently working at a zumiez where a large part of my coworkers do skate, which started because they working here. if anything, sometimes it'll influence people to start, which... is a good thing(?)

The one in the mall where I live is nothing like the one you work at then.
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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #54 on: October 08, 2019, 11:47:40 AM »
so zumiez finally sold out...
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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #55 on: October 08, 2019, 12:46:40 PM »
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Zumiez wouldn't be all that bad if they would hire people who actually skate.
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currently working at a zumiez where a large part of my coworkers do skate, which started because they working here. if anything, sometimes it'll influence people to start, which... is a good thing(?)
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The one in the mall where I live is nothing like the one you work at then.

The Zumiez near me looks like they inherited the Hot Topic employees after they took over that mall location.

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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #56 on: October 08, 2019, 12:57:35 PM »

I just browsed the dumpster fire that is zoomies.com and when you type in fucking awesome all the welcome product comes up,which is the total opposite of awesome. Search for Hockey and these fools actually sell jerseys and shit haha! So in any case while they're in some stores they definitely aren't online. I also searched for Quasi but got a page of Herschel backpacks,go figure

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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #57 on: October 08, 2019, 12:57:56 PM »
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Zumiez wouldn't be all that bad if they would hire people who actually skate.
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currently working at a zumiez where a large part of my coworkers do skate, which started because they working here. if anything, sometimes it'll influence people to start, which... is a good thing(?)
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The one in the mall where I live is nothing like the one you work at then.
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The Zumiez near me looks like they inherited the Hot Topic employees after they took over that mall location.

My brother in law's wife is the store manager of a Hot Topic around here now, but she used to manage the Zumiez store at the same mall. She told me that she doesn't recall any of the people working there being actual skaters. They were the types that would carry around a Penny board but have no idea how to ride it.

There were times where someone would come into the store and build a complete board from scratch and want one of the employees to build it for them. There would be not one employee there that knew how to grip a board or assemble one at all. They told the customer that the "board builder" was off that day so they couldn't get it assembled.
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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #58 on: October 08, 2019, 01:10:41 PM »
They just send their shit customers to a real skate shop to build their boards. Yeah I got you bro! $50 for a professional build, or return your shit to the zooms and its free if you purchase your board here!

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Re: HOCKEY & FUCKING AWESOME IN ZUMIEZ MALL STORES
« Reply #59 on: October 08, 2019, 01:17:20 PM »
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Zumiez wouldn't be all that bad if they would hire people who actually skate.
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currently working at a zumiez where a large part of my coworkers do skate, which started because they working here. if anything, sometimes it'll influence people to start, which... is a good thing(?)
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The one in the mall where I live is nothing like the one you work at then.
[close]

The Zumiez near me looks like they inherited the Hot Topic employees after they took over that mall location.
[close]

My brother in law's wife is the store manager of a Hot Topic around here now, but she used to manage the Zumiez store at the same mall. She told me that she doesn't recall any of the people working there being actual skaters. They were the types that would carry around a Penny board but have no idea how to ride it.

There were times where someone would come into the store and build a complete board from scratch and want one of the employees to build it for them. There would be not one employee there that knew how to grip a board or assemble one at all. They told the customer that the "board builder" was off that day so they couldn't get it assembled.

Heard this one first hand, I sometime wonder around the zumiez if I end up at the mall. Dude was buying what had to be a $200 complete, sales associate did a great job at up selling those titanium trucks and swiss. Got to the end and she said the same thing "assembler won't be in until Saturday" it was like Thursday. I tried to tell him to bail and go to the skateshop that was less than a mile away. He said "it's fine I'll just wait" and then the sales associate asked me to leave.
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