Truck set ups, less popular brands edition

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Finally broke out my Tensor Maglight ATG 5.5 for a Real board I was riding. Rides and pops very similar to a Thunder Titanium, slides much better thanks to that great baseplate. The grind was much softer, I personally prefer a harder metal grind like Venture where you can really feel the trucks biting into the ledge. The pinch was tough to get into, attribute that to brand new hangers with zero grind marks. I think they extend WB roughly the same as Thunder Cast baseplates. Only grip was getting them loose enough, I had them rattling loose so I could get into grinds better, they definitely felt like they were on the verge of coming apart, could tighten the kingpin nut by hand.

Overall a great alternative to Thunder Titaniums.

How'd you find the turning compared to ventures, specifically venture highs if that's possible? Most people put ATGs in league with theeve, thunder and other "turny" trucks, at least when they're broken in. If I recall there was even a review of the ATGs comparing the turning to ventures. I think might be in the minority but I've never had actually had issues with the turning on stock bushings on the ATGs, I actually prefer them to even broken in bones. I broke them in one session and have them turning better than other trucks brands with broken in bushings too, bones or otherwise. I actually really liked the pinch with the interlocking bushings since I felt popping out of stuff like crooks was really responsive. This could all come down to preference though.

[tyshoes]

I believe I was the one comparing them to ventures but the more I ride the 5.75 maglights the turning is much sharper than ventures, more on par with ace or indies. The Tensors have what feels likes a little delay before they turn, however, it doesnt mean unresponsive because they can carve with no problem. Its kinda like stabilized thurnder or similar to the stability you feel with ventures.  Its really something that sounds like more of a big deal than it is and hard to describe but I def prefer them to ventures or my forged indys. I was also comparing them to very old ventures with the green bushings from like 95. As far as recent trucks and tensors to compare, I was riding indy 149 hollow forged and moved to tensor 5.75 maglights and I have zero complaints with the tensors. I am super happy with them. Yes, if you try to grind concrete, it can leave little gashes and wear down quicker than a hard metal, but once you grind them down a little bit so there more surface touching in your grind, the "gashes" or general grind wear lessens. Plus the soft metal grinds very nicely

Overall, if youre concerned with ATG tensors not turning well, dont worry. Theyre actually very responsive and feel stable. A totally different truck compared to previous Tensors. And it feels like 2 maglights is pretty damn close to 1 indy in weight. Amazingly light and well built. I do highly rec using bones hardcore bushings and washer in them however. Theyre 55mm* high in case that info isnt out there making them close to a mid high truck but not low.

[moonordie]

ATGs are great, in their aluminum mag light form. Everything else they make is garbage imo, at least compared to the major truck companies.

ALSO, I've gotten to mess around with my destructo D1s more. I still can't properly skate them cause of quarantine. When I can I'll make an actual write up. But if I were to sum them up, they're like a more "street focused" indy. The turn is a sightly less responsive than indys when both have broken in bushings and are tightened to the point the nut is flush with the kingpin. Despite being 56mm high they don't feel unstable doing simple manuals or flatground. Pinch feels like an indy, and kingpin clearance is massive. If you like how indys feel, and want more metal to grind before hitting the kingpin, while also getting a lighter truck, with a slightly less responsive turn, these are a great option. So far no major flaws. The worst thing I could say was breaking in the bushings sucked, but they grind great and the turn is good, again slightly less responsive than a modern indy, but they don't compromise in stability despite the height and kingpin clearance etc. They're as good as any major truck brand and have something unique to offer imo. If you're curious and this sounds like something you'd like they're worth trying.

I wanna try crail trucks next, purely out of curiosity, but I have no idea how I'd get them outside of brazil lol

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Any European pals know about "Iron trucks"?

They're under the same distro as jart apparently:
https://store.hlcdist.com/shop-by-brand/iron-trucks

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Iron-Silver-Skateboard-Truck-Single/dp/B07W8ST1T2/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=iron+skateboard+trucks&qid=1583350452&sr=8-6

They look... fine? They seem like the trucks used on jart completes



They claim to be the only "made in Europe" truck (but aren't polster and film European made?). The only thing I could find on these was a french guy saying they stick when they turn:



I feel like if they were good, we'd here about them like with film, but I'm just curious if anyone knows anything about them.

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I picked up a pair for super cheap (I think about £15-20). They were not great. Look like a weird Indy/Venture cross. Not particularly light, turn a bit like a Venture. Terrible standard bushings, really soft, almost like Play-Doh. I swapped them out for some Indy reds which helped but they still didn't turn very well. Oh and not great quality control, the kingpins were noticibly off-centre in the baseplates.
You get what you pay for I guess.

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Thanks for the info man. While on quarantine I've gone down the rabbit hole of weird trucks brands, among other things.

Like those awful looking Avenue trucks?

[whatsreallygood]

^^^
Avenue is too weird for me. Plus there's enough info on them to show they aren't the best for the skating I do anyways. They don't seem good for most people's skating either tbh

I believe I was the one comparing them to ventures but the more I ride the 5.75 maglights the turning is much sharper than ventures, more on par with ace or indies. The Tensors have what feels likes a little delay before they turn, however, it doesnt mean unresponsive because they can carve with no problem. Its kinda like stabilized thurnder or similar to the stability you feel with ventures.  Its really something that sounds like more of a big deal than it is and hard to describe but I def prefer them to ventures or my forged indys. I was also comparing them to very old ventures with the green bushings from like 95. As far as recent trucks and tensors to compare, I was riding indy 149 hollow forged and moved to tensor 5.75 maglights and I have zero complaints with the tensors. I am super happy with them. Yes, if you try to grind concrete, it can leave little gashes and wear down quicker than a hard metal, but once you grind them down a little bit so there more surface touching in your grind, the "gashes" or general grind wear lessens. Plus the soft metal grinds very nicely

Overall, if you're concerned with ATG tensors not turning well, dont worry. Theyre actually very responsive and feel stable. A totally different truck compared to previous Tensors. And it feels like 2 maglights is pretty damn close to 1 indy in weight. Amazingly light and well built. I do highly rec using bones hardcore bushings and washer in them however. Theyre 53mm high in case that info isnt out there making them close to a mid high truck but not low.

Thanks for the info man, appreciate it. I googled around and found the post I was thinking of:

I definitely agree with most, if not all, of the tensor praise in this thread. Wrote a pretty lengthy review of them in the truck thread myself not long ago. I think for many people it really could be the perfect truck. I love how light they are, they turn way better than my Ventures and grind so good on concrete. They definitely have a place in my collection, but the added height relative to what I'm used to leads to an ever so slightly tippy feeling and I do have some concerns over the durability so they're be my go to truck. Also aesthetically they're just a bit weird despite the rather nice looking hanger. The matte finish just throws me off, especially when my Venture Tis with the gold anodized baseplates just look so much better when set up.

But this is just more useful info which is always appreciated. It reaffirms what I felt about the trucks as well. They're really turny but they don't turn when you don't want them to. I went from broken in first gen aces to tensors and felt like the sacrifice I made in turning was so small I didn't really notice it, and the stability I gained, especially when I had to setup for flip tricks with narrow foot positioning at speed, that was SO much better. This might be what you described as a delay, when I adjust my feet for certain tricks I don't have the board turn off course like I did with my aces, but when I specifically want to hook a sharp turn I don't feel restricted.

This just ended up becoming another post jerking off tensors lol. I still get curious to try ventures again even though every variation I've tried didn't click for me and I don't feel like fucking with them to get a good turn, but the praise for stuff like stability occasionally draws my attention and I get curious again

[rocklobster]

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Finally broke out my Tensor Maglight ATG 5.5 for a Real board I was riding. Rides and pops very similar to a Thunder Titanium, slides much better thanks to that great baseplate. The grind was much softer, I personally prefer a harder metal grind like Venture where you can really feel the trucks biting into the ledge. The pinch was tough to get into, attribute that to brand new hangers with zero grind marks. I think they extend WB roughly the same as Thunder Cast baseplates. Only grip was getting them loose enough, I had them rattling loose so I could get into grinds better, they definitely felt like they were on the verge of coming apart, could tighten the kingpin nut by hand.

Overall a great alternative to Thunder Titaniums.

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How'd you find the turning compared to ventures, specifically venture highs if that's possible? Most people put ATGs in league with theeve, thunder and other "turny" trucks, at least when they're broken in. If I recall there was even a review of the ATGs comparing the turning to ventures. I think might be in the minority but I've never had actually had issues with the turning on stock bushings on the ATGs, I actually prefer them to even broken in bones. I broke them in one session and have them turning better than other trucks brands with broken in bushings too, bones or otherwise. I actually really liked the pinch with the interlocking bushings since I felt popping out of stuff like crooks was really responsive. This could all come down to preference though.

Tensor Maglight are a great truck and should be ranked up there with the big 3 in terms of build quality, weight, turn and grind. After a couple more sessions I did manage to wear them in and they did grind and pinch better than before, but still not as good as Ventures right out of the box. I think truck height also plays a part too, Tensors are 55mm and Ventures are 49mm thereabouts.

I guess it really comes down to what you value in a truck and for me grind / pinch trumps turning.

(side thought - maybe I'm really heavy footed, ie I put a lot of pressure on my bushing on during grinds. Having bushing that are too soft causes the truck and bushing to flex too much and hence jam on grinds.)

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They claim to be the only "made in Europe" truck (but aren't polster and film European made?). The only thing I could find on these was a french guy saying they stick when they turn:



I feel like if they were good, we'd here about them like with film, but I'm just curious if anyone knows anything about them.

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I got bored one day and started poking around and looking into getting trucks made and from what I gathered the process is basically you come up with your design in 3d modeling software and take it to them and they do their best to make it, or they can kind of work off one of their existing designs and change it a little based on your input. There's standard options like hollow axles/kingpins or different alloys that can bring the price per piece up or down. Then once you have your design down you move to production and choose finishes, paint, colored nuts etc.

where did you find does the casting/or prototyping?

[tyshoes]

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Finally broke out my Tensor Maglight ATG 5.5 for a Real board I was riding. Rides and pops very similar to a Thunder Titanium, slides much better thanks to that great baseplate. The grind was much softer, I personally prefer a harder metal grind like Venture where you can really feel the trucks biting into the ledge. The pinch was tough to get into, attribute that to brand new hangers with zero grind marks. I think they extend WB roughly the same as Thunder Cast baseplates. Only grip was getting them loose enough, I had them rattling loose so I could get into grinds better, they definitely felt like they were on the verge of coming apart, could tighten the kingpin nut by hand.

Overall a great alternative to Thunder Titaniums.

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How'd you find the turning compared to ventures, specifically venture highs if that's possible? Most people put ATGs in league with theeve, thunder and other "turny" trucks, at least when they're broken in. If I recall there was even a review of the ATGs comparing the turning to ventures. I think might be in the minority but I've never had actually had issues with the turning on stock bushings on the ATGs, I actually prefer them to even broken in bones. I broke them in one session and have them turning better than other trucks brands with broken in bushings too, bones or otherwise. I actually really liked the pinch with the interlocking bushings since I felt popping out of stuff like crooks was really responsive. This could all come down to preference though.

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Tensors are 55mm and Ventures are 49mm thereabouts.

the 5.25 (not low) and 5.75  maglight and aluminum atg are 55 mm high just for clarification.


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[tyshoes]

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Avenue is too weird for me. Plus there's enough info on them to show they aren't the best for the skating I do anyways. They don't seem good for most people's skating either tbh

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I believe I was the one comparing them to ventures but the more I ride the 5.75 maglights the turning is much sharper than ventures, more on par with ace or indies. The Tensors have what feels likes a little delay before they turn, however, it doesnt mean unresponsive because they can carve with no problem. Its kinda like stabilized thurnder or similar to the stability you feel with ventures.  Its really something that sounds like more of a big deal than it is and hard to describe but I def prefer them to ventures or my forged indys. I was also comparing them to very old ventures with the green bushings from like 95. As far as recent trucks and tensors to compare, I was riding indy 149 hollow forged and moved to tensor 5.75 maglights and I have zero complaints with the tensors. I am super happy with them. Yes, if you try to grind concrete, it can leave little gashes and wear down quicker than a hard metal, but once you grind them down a little bit so there more surface touching in your grind, the "gashes" or general grind wear lessens. Plus the soft metal grinds very nicely

Overall, if you're concerned with ATG tensors not turning well, dont worry. Theyre actually very responsive and feel stable. A totally different truck compared to previous Tensors. And it feels like 2 maglights is pretty damn close to 1 indy in weight. Amazingly light and well built. I do highly rec using bones hardcore bushings and washer in them however. Theyre 53mm high in case that info isnt out there making them close to a mid high truck but not low.

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Thanks for the info man, appreciate it. I googled around and found the post I was thinking of:

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I definitely agree with most, if not all, of the tensor praise in this thread. Wrote a pretty lengthy review of them in the truck thread myself not long ago. I think for many people it really could be the perfect truck. I love how light they are, they turn way better than my Ventures and grind so good on concrete. They definitely have a place in my collection, but the added height relative to what I'm used to leads to an ever so slightly tippy feeling and I do have some concerns over the durability so they're be my go to truck. Also aesthetically they're just a bit weird despite the rather nice looking hanger. The matte finish just throws me off, especially when my Venture Tis with the gold anodized baseplates just look so much better when set up.

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But this is just more useful info which is always appreciated. It reaffirms what I felt about the trucks as well. They're really turny but they don't turn when you don't want them to. I went from broken in first gen aces to tensors and felt like the sacrifice I made in turning was so small I didn't really notice it, and the stability I gained, especially when I had to setup for flip tricks with narrow foot positioning at speed, that was SO much better. This might be what you described as a delay, when I adjust my feet for certain tricks I don't have the board turn off course like I did with my aces, but when I specifically want to hook a sharp turn I don't feel restricted.

This just ended up becoming another post jerking off tensors lol. I still get curious to try ventures again even though every variation I've tried didn't click for me and I don't feel like fucking with them to get a good turn, but the praise for stuff like stability occasionally draws my attention and I get curious again

Nailed it. Im sorry I didnt know people were hopping on a Tensor trend (rather finally ackolwding a good product), I just remeber posting how good they were when the 5.75s dropped with the new ATG. Theyre very good and stable on a 8.25 up to 8.5 they feel perfect paired with the bones bushings and washer. I also always was a raw silver guy but I snagged these on ebay for 40 in the matte black finish and I actually dont mind it much. Still prefer plain raw aluminum though but they look very astheticly pleasing to me Ive grown to like them.

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Finally broke out my Tensor Maglight ATG 5.5 for a Real board I was riding. Rides and pops very similar to a Thunder Titanium, slides much better thanks to that great baseplate. The grind was much softer, I personally prefer a harder metal grind like Venture where you can really feel the trucks biting into the ledge. The pinch was tough to get into, attribute that to brand new hangers with zero grind marks. I think they extend WB roughly the same as Thunder Cast baseplates. Only grip was getting them loose enough, I had them rattling loose so I could get into grinds better, they definitely felt like they were on the verge of coming apart, could tighten the kingpin nut by hand.

Overall a great alternative to Thunder Titaniums.

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How'd you find the turning compared to ventures, specifically venture highs if that's possible? Most people put ATGs in league with theeve, thunder and other "turny" trucks, at least when they're broken in. If I recall there was even a review of the ATGs comparing the turning to ventures. I think might be in the minority but I've never had actually had issues with the turning on stock bushings on the ATGs, I actually prefer them to even broken in bones. I broke them in one session and have them turning better than other trucks brands with broken in bushings too, bones or otherwise. I actually really liked the pinch with the interlocking bushings since I felt popping out of stuff like crooks was really responsive. This could all come down to preference though.

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Tensors are 55mm and Ventures are 49mm thereabouts.

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the 8.25. 8.5 and 8.75 maglight atg are 53 mm high just for clarification.

theres an 8.75 version? i thought the 5.75 was 8.5

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Finally broke out my Tensor Maglight ATG 5.5 for a Real board I was riding. Rides and pops very similar to a Thunder Titanium, slides much better thanks to that great baseplate. The grind was much softer, I personally prefer a harder metal grind like Venture where you can really feel the trucks biting into the ledge. The pinch was tough to get into, attribute that to brand new hangers with zero grind marks. I think they extend WB roughly the same as Thunder Cast baseplates. Only grip was getting them loose enough, I had them rattling loose so I could get into grinds better, they definitely felt like they were on the verge of coming apart, could tighten the kingpin nut by hand.

Overall a great alternative to Thunder Titaniums.

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How'd you find the turning compared to ventures, specifically venture highs if that's possible? Most people put ATGs in league with theeve, thunder and other "turny" trucks, at least when they're broken in. If I recall there was even a review of the ATGs comparing the turning to ventures. I think might be in the minority but I've never had actually had issues with the turning on stock bushings on the ATGs, I actually prefer them to even broken in bones. I broke them in one session and have them turning better than other trucks brands with broken in bushings too, bones or otherwise. I actually really liked the pinch with the interlocking bushings since I felt popping out of stuff like crooks was really responsive. This could all come down to preference though.

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Tensors are 55mm and Ventures are 49mm thereabouts.

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the 8.25. 8.5 and 8.75 maglight atg are 53 mm high just for clarification.

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theres an 8.75 version? i thought the 5.75 was 8.5

No you are correct its the 5.75 brain jumble isolation error on my part

[whatsreallygood]

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Finally broke out my Tensor Maglight ATG 5.5 for a Real board I was riding. Rides and pops very similar to a Thunder Titanium, slides much better thanks to that great baseplate. The grind was much softer, I personally prefer a harder metal grind like Venture where you can really feel the trucks biting into the ledge. The pinch was tough to get into, attribute that to brand new hangers with zero grind marks. I think they extend WB roughly the same as Thunder Cast baseplates. Only grip was getting them loose enough, I had them rattling loose so I could get into grinds better, they definitely felt like they were on the verge of coming apart, could tighten the kingpin nut by hand.

Overall a great alternative to Thunder Titaniums.

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How'd you find the turning compared to ventures, specifically venture highs if that's possible? Most people put ATGs in league with theeve, thunder and other "turny" trucks, at least when they're broken in. If I recall there was even a review of the ATGs comparing the turning to ventures. I think might be in the minority but I've never had actually had issues with the turning on stock bushings on the ATGs, I actually prefer them to even broken in bones. I broke them in one session and have them turning better than other trucks brands with broken in bushings too, bones or otherwise. I actually really liked the pinch with the interlocking bushings since I felt popping out of stuff like crooks was really responsive. This could all come down to preference though.

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Tensor Maglight are a great truck and should be ranked up there with the big 3 in terms of build quality, weight, turn and grind. After a couple more sessions I did manage to wear them in and they did grind and pinch better than before, but still not as good as Ventures right out of the box. I think truck height also plays a part too, Tensors are 55mm and Ventures are 49mm thereabouts.

I guess it really comes down to what you value in a truck and for me grind / pinch trumps turning.

(side thought - maybe I'm really heavy footed, ie I put a lot of pressure on my bushing on during grinds. Having bushing that are too soft causes the truck and bushing to flex too much and hence jam on grinds.)

Yeah I totally agree, for me I notice turning a lot more compared to pinch and grind but it's all preference

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Avenue is too weird for me. Plus there's enough info on them to show they aren't the best for the skating I do anyways. They don't seem good for most people's skating either tbh

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I believe I was the one comparing them to ventures but the more I ride the 5.75 maglights the turning is much sharper than ventures, more on par with ace or indies. The Tensors have what feels likes a little delay before they turn, however, it doesnt mean unresponsive because they can carve with no problem. Its kinda like stabilized thurnder or similar to the stability you feel with ventures.  Its really something that sounds like more of a big deal than it is and hard to describe but I def prefer them to ventures or my forged indys. I was also comparing them to very old ventures with the green bushings from like 95. As far as recent trucks and tensors to compare, I was riding indy 149 hollow forged and moved to tensor 5.75 maglights and I have zero complaints with the tensors. I am super happy with them. Yes, if you try to grind concrete, it can leave little gashes and wear down quicker than a hard metal, but once you grind them down a little bit so there more surface touching in your grind, the "gashes" or general grind wear lessens. Plus the soft metal grinds very nicely

Overall, if you're concerned with ATG tensors not turning well, dont worry. Theyre actually very responsive and feel stable. A totally different truck compared to previous Tensors. And it feels like 2 maglights is pretty damn close to 1 indy in weight. Amazingly light and well built. I do highly rec using bones hardcore bushings and washer in them however. Theyre 53mm high in case that info isnt out there making them close to a mid high truck but not low.

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Thanks for the info man, appreciate it. I googled around and found the post I was thinking of:

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I definitely agree with most, if not all, of the tensor praise in this thread. Wrote a pretty lengthy review of them in the truck thread myself not long ago. I think for many people it really could be the perfect truck. I love how light they are, they turn way better than my Ventures and grind so good on concrete. They definitely have a place in my collection, but the added height relative to what I'm used to leads to an ever so slightly tippy feeling and I do have some concerns over the durability so they're be my go to truck. Also aesthetically they're just a bit weird despite the rather nice looking hanger. The matte finish just throws me off, especially when my Venture Tis with the gold anodized baseplates just look so much better when set up.

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But this is just more useful info which is always appreciated. It reaffirms what I felt about the trucks as well. They're really turny but they don't turn when you don't want them to. I went from broken in first gen aces to tensors and felt like the sacrifice I made in turning was so small I didn't really notice it, and the stability I gained, especially when I had to setup for flip tricks with narrow foot positioning at speed, that was SO much better. This might be what you described as a delay, when I adjust my feet for certain tricks I don't have the board turn off course like I did with my aces, but when I specifically want to hook a sharp turn I don't feel restricted.

This just ended up becoming another post jerking off tensors lol. I still get curious to try ventures again even though every variation I've tried didn't click for me and I don't feel like fucking with them to get a good turn, but the praise for stuff like stability occasionally draws my attention and I get curious again

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Nailed it. Im sorry I didnt know people were hopping on a Tensor trend (rather finally ackolwding a good product), I just remeber posting how good they were when the 5.75s dropped with the new ATG. Theyre very good and stable on a 8.25 up to 8.5 they feel perfect paired with the bones bushings and washer. I also always was a raw silver guy but I snagged these on ebay for 40 in the matte black finish and I actually dont mind it much. Still prefer plain raw aluminum though but they look very astheticly pleasing to me Ive grown to like them.

Yeah I wish they did a raw/glossy colorway for the maglights. The matte throws me off, not enough to not get a pair but in terms of aesthetics I don't think you can beat raws

[mynameisnotjeff]

Do Destructos shrink or extend the Wheelbase?

[rocklobster]

Do Destructos shrink or extend the Wheelbase?

D2 Mid - adds 3.125", a touch more than Indy Standards.

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Finally broke out my Tensor Maglight ATG 5.5 for a Real board I was riding. Rides and pops very similar to a Thunder Titanium, slides much better thanks to that great baseplate. The grind was much softer, I personally prefer a harder metal grind like Venture where you can really feel the trucks biting into the ledge. The pinch was tough to get into, attribute that to brand new hangers with zero grind marks. I think they extend WB roughly the same as Thunder Cast baseplates. Only grip was getting them loose enough, I had them rattling loose so I could get into grinds better, they definitely felt like they were on the verge of coming apart, could tighten the kingpin nut by hand.

Overall a great alternative to Thunder Titaniums.

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How'd you find the turning compared to ventures, specifically venture highs if that's possible? Most people put ATGs in league with theeve, thunder and other "turny" trucks, at least when they're broken in. If I recall there was even a review of the ATGs comparing the turning to ventures. I think might be in the minority but I've never had actually had issues with the turning on stock bushings on the ATGs, I actually prefer them to even broken in bones. I broke them in one session and have them turning better than other trucks brands with broken in bushings too, bones or otherwise. I actually really liked the pinch with the interlocking bushings since I felt popping out of stuff like crooks was really responsive. This could all come down to preference though.

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Tensors are 55mm and Ventures are 49mm thereabouts.

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the 5.25 (not low) and 5.75  maglight atg are 53 mm high just for clarification.


Edit: correction

Tensor claim 55mm (to center of axle); side by side (and both stock) to Venture (forged plates they are 53.5) the Tensors were clearly taller than the Ventures.

[weon]

http://griffinskateboards.com/grennett/

no idea if this is still a thing, but these are pretty elaborate customization options for a 7 5/8" axle bennett truck

[legion]

http://griffinskateboards.com/grennett/

no idea if this is still a thing, but these are pretty elaborate customization options for a 7 5/8" axle bennett truck

I saw this a while back. Machined bushing seats and baseplate milling look interesting. Most trucks have spotfaced hanger ends now.
I'm gonna polish the pivots and bushing seats on some new trucks soon..

https://stokedrideshop.com/products/cindrich-baseplate-replacement-for-bennett-trucks
https://facebook.com/cindrichboards/
This guy used to do Indy baseplates with different kingpin angles. Ppl called them Cindy's.

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Finally broke out my Tensor Maglight ATG 5.5 for a Real board I was riding. Rides and pops very similar to a Thunder Titanium, slides much better thanks to that great baseplate. The grind was much softer, I personally prefer a harder metal grind like Venture where you can really feel the trucks biting into the ledge. The pinch was tough to get into, attribute that to brand new hangers with zero grind marks. I think they extend WB roughly the same as Thunder Cast baseplates. Only grip was getting them loose enough, I had them rattling loose so I could get into grinds better, they definitely felt like they were on the verge of coming apart, could tighten the kingpin nut by hand.

Overall a great alternative to Thunder Titaniums.

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How'd you find the turning compared to ventures, specifically venture highs if that's possible? Most people put ATGs in league with theeve, thunder and other "turny" trucks, at least when they're broken in. If I recall there was even a review of the ATGs comparing the turning to ventures. I think might be in the minority but I've never had actually had issues with the turning on stock bushings on the ATGs, I actually prefer them to even broken in bones. I broke them in one session and have them turning better than other trucks brands with broken in bushings too, bones or otherwise. I actually really liked the pinch with the interlocking bushings since I felt popping out of stuff like crooks was really responsive. This could all come down to preference though.

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Tensors are 55mm and Ventures are 49mm thereabouts.

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the 5.25 (not low) and 5.75  maglight atg are 53 mm high just for clarification.


Edit: correction

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Tensor claim 55mm (to center of axle); side by side (and both stock) to Venture (forged plates they are 53.5) the Tensors were clearly taller than the Ventures.

Im going by Tactics measurements which seems spot on

https://www.tactics.com/tensor/mag-light-skateboard-trucks/black-575

Edit: I did some research and this must be the older maglights on Tactics. You are correct as I found it on an ad  but couldnt find any info or specs on their site aside from this.




I have a digital caliper I will measure them next time I take them off. next to forged indys and ventures (both 53.5) they seemed no taller than those but not as tall as my stage 9 Indys at 55.

[legion]

That's not an easy measure to get with calipers. Could do the "depth" from the top of the axle, then subtract 5/32". Don't forget to zero the calipers for depth..

[tyshoes]

That's not an easy measure to get with calipers. Could do the "depth" from the top of the axle, then subtract 5/32". Don't forget to zero the calipers for depth..

I agree but I have an accurate method to .5mm. I was an engineer for 12 years but you are are correct. Its likely that it was 55 like advertised but when I removed the stock washers and put in harcore bushings and washer which cpould account for minor differences depending on tightness.

[lovecurbs_brazil]

Crail Trucks (Brazil) 149 high 95a 

[bbk]

Can someone who has films actually measure them? I think I've read that the 5.5 is both 8.125 and 8.35 on here and different shops.

Still looking for this, sorry if I missed it.

[legion]

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That's not an easy measure to get with calipers. Could do the "depth" from the top of the axle, then subtract 5/32". Don't forget to zero the calipers for depth..

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I agree but I have an accurate method to .5mm. I was an engineer for 12 years but you are are correct. Its likely that it was 55 like advertised but when I removed the stock washers and put in harcore bushings and washer which cpould account for minor differences depending on tightness.

Aah. Right on. I'm a burnout but remember some stuff.. If you're into recreational math I've got some stuff for you..
Had to throw the caliper thing out there after seeing how much trouble ppl have just measuring wheelbase on a deck.
Yeah. No bottom ashers should make a tiny change in height, same with cranking down the kingpin, or shortening the bottom bushing.
Something cosine 15*?

 
http://www.peterverdone.com/wiki/index.php?title=How_skateboards_turn
Wanna compare the turning radius of various trucks?
I can tell I'd hate the math to this..
I'd be curious to know how axle offset affects turning radius and feel.
And how would you mathematically show divey-ness vs stability?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13rCMIthFb59Y-xrveasWk4GqR9jgd85fXDCIFm3g15I/htmlview
Bunch of truck measurements here. Idk how much I trust some. Indy kingpin angle shouldn't change..

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Can someone who has films actually measure them? I think I've read that the 5.5 is both 8.125 and 8.35 on here and different shops.

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Still looking for this, sorry if I missed it.

Mine just arrived today. Got a pair for 28 Euros and wanted to give them a try because I wanted to skate a smaller board again. I bought the 5.25 ones can't say anything about the others. Width is ~20,3 cm (8 inch) height is 53mm.
Weight is 355g. I can measure the wheelbase in the next 2-3 days, when the rest arrives.

[Live Fast Johnny]

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Can someone who has films actually measure them? I think I've read that the 5.5 is both 8.125 and 8.35 on here and different shops.

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Still looking for this, sorry if I missed it.

Just measured my Film raw hollow 5.5's and they are right at 8.3.  I skated them really hard all day on Saturday and may have worn down a tiny bit of axle on missed flip tricks.  My plan is to get a full review up today or tomorrow.

[Sundaynuggets]

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Can someone who has films actually measure them? I think I've read that the 5.5 is both 8.125 and 8.35 on here and different shops.

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Still looking for this, sorry if I missed it.

Just measured my 5.5 raw and they were 8.3 ish.

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Finally broke out my Tensor Maglight ATG 5.5 for a Real board I was riding. Rides and pops very similar to a Thunder Titanium, slides much better thanks to that great baseplate. The grind was much softer, I personally prefer a harder metal grind like Venture where you can really feel the trucks biting into the ledge. The pinch was tough to get into, attribute that to brand new hangers with zero grind marks. I think they extend WB roughly the same as Thunder Cast baseplates. Only grip was getting them loose enough, I had them rattling loose so I could get into grinds better, they definitely felt like they were on the verge of coming apart, could tighten the kingpin nut by hand.

Overall a great alternative to Thunder Titaniums.

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How'd you find the turning compared to ventures, specifically venture highs if that's possible? Most people put ATGs in league with theeve, thunder and other "turny" trucks, at least when they're broken in. If I recall there was even a review of the ATGs comparing the turning to ventures. I think might be in the minority but I've never had actually had issues with the turning on stock bushings on the ATGs, I actually prefer them to even broken in bones. I broke them in one session and have them turning better than other trucks brands with broken in bushings too, bones or otherwise. I actually really liked the pinch with the interlocking bushings since I felt popping out of stuff like crooks was really responsive. This could all come down to preference though.

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Tensors are 55mm and Ventures are 49mm thereabouts.

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the 5.25 (not low) and 5.75  maglight atg are 53 mm high just for clarification.


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Tensor claim 55mm (to center of axle); side by side (and both stock) to Venture (forged plates they are 53.5) the Tensors were clearly taller than the Ventures.

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Im going by Tactics measurements which seems spot on

https://www.tactics.com/tensor/mag-light-skateboard-trucks/black-575

Edit: I did some research and this must be the older maglights on Tactics. You are correct as I found it on an ad  but couldnt find any info or specs on their site aside from this.




I have a digital caliper I will measure them next time I take them off. next to forged indys and ventures (both 53.5) they seemed no taller than those but not as tall as my stage 9 Indys at 55.

[tyshoes]

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Finally broke out my Tensor Maglight ATG 5.5 for a Real board I was riding. Rides and pops very similar to a Thunder Titanium, slides much better thanks to that great baseplate. The grind was much softer, I personally prefer a harder metal grind like Venture where you can really feel the trucks biting into the ledge. The pinch was tough to get into, attribute that to brand new hangers with zero grind marks. I think they extend WB roughly the same as Thunder Cast baseplates. Only grip was getting them loose enough, I had them rattling loose so I could get into grinds better, they definitely felt like they were on the verge of coming apart, could tighten the kingpin nut by hand.

Overall a great alternative to Thunder Titaniums.

[close]

How'd you find the turning compared to ventures, specifically venture highs if that's possible? Most people put ATGs in league with theeve, thunder and other "turny" trucks, at least when they're broken in. If I recall there was even a review of the ATGs comparing the turning to ventures. I think might be in the minority but I've never had actually had issues with the turning on stock bushings on the ATGs, I actually prefer them to even broken in bones. I broke them in one session and have them turning better than other trucks brands with broken in bushings too, bones or otherwise. I actually really liked the pinch with the interlocking bushings since I felt popping out of stuff like crooks was really responsive. This could all come down to preference though.

[close]

Tensors are 55mm and Ventures are 49mm thereabouts.

[close]

the 5.25 (not low) and 5.75  maglight atg are 53 mm high just for clarification.


Edit: correction

[close]

Tensor claim 55mm (to center of axle); side by side (and both stock) to Venture (forged plates they are 53.5) the Tensors were clearly taller than the Ventures.

[close]

Im going by Tactics measurements which seems spot on

https://www.tactics.com/tensor/mag-light-skateboard-trucks/black-575

Edit: I did some research and this must be the older maglights on Tactics. You are correct as I found it on an ad  but couldnt find any info or specs on their site aside from this.




I have a digital caliper I will measure them next time I take them off. next to forged indys and ventures (both 53.5) they seemed no taller than those but not as tall as my stage 9 Indys at 55.

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Proof enough for me

[Xen]

Thing is, Theeve claim 55mm as well but they really come in around 52mm so who really knows

My tensors are taller than anything I've had on hand (and I don't ride cast indys ever).

[whatsreallygood]

Crail Trucks (Brazil) 149 high 95a 

Have you skated a pair? I'm really curious about these