I'm loving these theeves. I don't wanna call it yet since I've only skated them for a week but so far everything has been great. I love how they grind, the turn is fun and surfy, baseplate touches instead of wheels so you can slide longer, kingpin clearance isn't an issue etc. I REALLY like the feel of these for crooks, I find trucks that have a more round hanger (indy, ace, theeve, etc) sit better on crooks compared to trucks with a flatter hanger (venture, thunder, tensor etc), entirely personal preference tho