Anyone got any info on shapes/woodshop of Illegal Civ boards? What about those new Sci-Fi Fantasy boards as well?
Curious about the Sci-Fi ones too. I saw some pics and it looked like BBS but they were ebay pics so not the best quality. I've heard that BBS is only running big (like 5 digit # of boards big) orders now, but stuff has been coming out from smaller companies like ToPX so I'm wondering if they're honoring orders that were placed before the pandemic delays made everything crazy. I know there was a partial run of some of the topx decks that came out months ago, so maybe the stuff coming out now is just the rest of what they were originally supposed to get. I suppose Jerry is probably pretty well connected so the new rules might not necessarily apply to him the way they would to some random company trying to get boards made.
Dunno much about IC and frankly don't really care. I think they might have been BBS at one point but no clue now.
The last board I broke in my string of brand new broken decks was a Clutch and I knew that one was gonna break because it was sooooo flexy. Maybe just a one off but the thing didn't have a chance. Also not a fan of the lack of concave within the kicks. That's a deal breaker for me with boards and it's why I pretty much only skate BBS and sometimes South Central. When you're used to spoon nose/tail, boards without it feel cheap. I say cheap because no concave within the kicks reminds me of how department store boards felt before I got my first pro board. When it's that flat it actually feels like convex.
I've had really good experiences with clutch for the most part but they're not really what I'd call stiff. They definitely have a little give to them, much like PS stix. The shapes really seem to matter for me with clutch decks, I've had like 3 or 4 of the O shape and they were all good. Snappy and light, held their pop pretty well, and the O7 (8.25) and O8 (8.375) dimensions and tail are really in my wheelhouse. I'm not a board breaker so that was never an issue for me, but I did have one of the tapered popsicles (I think K or P shape, cant remember off the top of my head) with a 14.5wb that felt like ass to me. Then again, so do most 14.5wb 8.25 decks.
I actually really don't care for the spoony kicks that BBS (and clutch on some of their shapes) do. It always messes up my timing and I end up ghost popping a lot until I get used to it and even then I always feel like I'm working against my board instead of with it. I also don't love how steep the BBS and especially SC standard tails are, but even with mellower kicks like Pennswood's silver spoon mold I really struggle to find my footing (literally and figuratively). I think one of the biggest reasons why I like PS shapes so much is that the kicks tend to be mellower and have more subtle, organic feeling transitions. I really like how effortless and snappy the pop feel is on them, although I'm sure if I had stronger or younger legs I'd get better pop from a steeper tail and stiffer deck. I don't know if it's because I grew up skating flatter boards or just that they're easier on my fat old ass, but every time I buy a hockey or any deluxe shape other than the 8.28 x 31.7 I end up putting it away after a few days because it becomes such a chore to skate.