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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3030 on: June 12, 2022, 07:30:31 PM »
cast v hollows coming in fall. regular baseplate with hollow axle and kingpin. first ones will be a kader pro model.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3031 on: June 12, 2022, 07:36:16 PM »
cast v hollows coming in fall. regular baseplate with hollow axle and kingpin. first ones will be a kader pro model.

Sauce?

Guess there's hope for a Low in 8.25 and above if they are changing up the product lineup.
Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3032 on: June 12, 2022, 10:21:15 PM »
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Posting over here from the truck set up thread

Low bushings working pretty damn well on inverted kingpins .

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Cast baseplate 5.2 low
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Crazy turn radius for low trucks . This is the loosest I’ve ever ridden my trucks and it’s been really fun. Fucking with my flat ground tricks a little but getting used to it this past week.
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3033 on: June 13, 2022, 02:27:22 PM »
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cast v hollows coming in fall. regular baseplate with hollow axle and kingpin. first ones will be a kader pro model.
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Sauce?

Guess there's hope for a Low in 8.25 and above if they are changing up the product lineup.
https://i.ibb.co/kBwMfYg/841-A3-B70-C4-D0-44-C5-A503-0774-B81-A9-FF6.jpg

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3034 on: June 13, 2022, 02:38:07 PM »
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cast v hollows coming in fall. regular baseplate with hollow axle and kingpin. first ones will be a kader pro model.
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Sauce?

Guess there's hope for a Low in 8.25 and above if they are changing up the product lineup.
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https://i.ibb.co/kBwMfYg/841-A3-B70-C4-D0-44-C5-A503-0774-B81-A9-FF6.jpg

raw & hollow? i'm sweating that final $ amount

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3035 on: June 13, 2022, 03:47:10 PM »
Can someone give me the tldr of why so many prefer the cast plates over the forged so much?

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3036 on: June 13, 2022, 04:04:24 PM »
Can someone give me the tldr of why so many prefer the cast plates over the forged so much?

The arguments in favor of cast venture plates include (1) 1.5 mm taller (resulting in 53.5 mm for the standard variants), (2)  less wheelbase extension with the casts - though I forget the exact figures, and (3) forged plates have a different ride quality...to some, they feel more "tinny" and rattle more underfoot.  Ultimately, it is one more thing for us to split hairs about.  Both forged and cast are good options. You would be fine with either, but you know how this board works (not excluding myself from the madness by any means). 

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3037 on: June 13, 2022, 04:26:32 PM »

I definitely prefer a little more height over a little less weight, when it comes to any brand baseplates, but I know some people are a lot more particular about having the lightest setup they can, some even having the lowest setup they can as well.

I talk too much about skateboards.  Sorry.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3038 on: June 13, 2022, 04:37:15 PM »
I like the lower height of the forged ones.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3039 on: June 13, 2022, 05:13:27 PM »
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Can someone give me the tldr of why so many prefer the cast plates over the forged so much?
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The arguments in favor of cast venture plates include (1) 1.5 mm taller (resulting in 53.5 mm for the standard variants), (2)  less wheelbase extension with the casts - though I forget the exact figures, and (3) forged plates have a different ride quality...to some, they feel more "tinny" and rattle more underfoot.  Ultimately, it is one more thing for us to split hairs about.  Both forged and cast are good options. You would be fine with either, but you know how this board works (not excluding myself from the madness by any means).

I agree with Idk above me about the lower height being a benefit, but I'm one of those people that can't stand forged plates. IIRC for Venture forged plates add somewhere between 3.4-3.5 to the overall WB and cast plates add 3.25.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3040 on: June 13, 2022, 05:27:26 PM »
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Can someone give me the tldr of why so many prefer the cast plates over the forged so much?
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The arguments in favor of cast venture plates include (1) 1.5 mm taller (resulting in 53.5 mm for the standard variants), (2)  less wheelbase extension with the casts - though I forget the exact figures, and (3) forged plates have a different ride quality...to some, they feel more "tinny" and rattle more underfoot.  Ultimately, it is one more thing for us to split hairs about.  Both forged and cast are good options. You would be fine with either, but you know how this board works (not excluding myself from the madness by any means).

Thanks, was not aware of the wheel base differences. I'm an idiot but wouldn't the extension of the forged base plate combined with the lower height result in a similar pop feel to the higher but shorter wheelbase cast plates? The forged would just be lighter and lower overall (but with tinny feeling too)?

Idk but the forged plates are working out okay for me right now. Might just stick to them to keep myself from going further insane.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3041 on: June 13, 2022, 05:27:47 PM »
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Can someone give me the tldr of why so many prefer the cast plates over the forged so much?
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The arguments in favor of cast venture plates include (1) 1.5 mm taller (resulting in 53.5 mm for the standard variants), (2)  less wheelbase extension with the casts - though I forget the exact figures, and (3) forged plates have a different ride quality...to some, they feel more "tinny" and rattle more underfoot.  Ultimately, it is one more thing for us to split hairs about.  Both forged and cast are good options. You would be fine with either, but you know how this board works (not excluding myself from the madness by any means).

Cast - + 3.25"
Forged - + 3.5"

Forged do feel more rattle-y during the ride and lowered height gives a better pinch on grinds.
Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3042 on: June 13, 2022, 05:46:50 PM »
Doesn’t look like there will be a 6.1 in the team hollow version according to that screenshot. Bummer. On the forged vs cast debate, this may seem counter intuitive but I prefer risers on forged plates for some reason. Kinda into the tinny feel and seems to put it at the perfect height.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3043 on: June 13, 2022, 05:54:47 PM »
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cast v hollows coming in fall. regular baseplate with hollow axle and kingpin. first ones will be a kader pro model.
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Sauce?

Guess there's hope for a Low in 8.25 and above if they are changing up the product lineup.
[close]
https://i.ibb.co/kBwMfYg/841-A3-B70-C4-D0-44-C5-A503-0774-B81-A9-FF6.jpg
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raw & hollow? i'm sweating that final $ amount

If you're a truck hoarder (like I assume most of us are) you've probably already done this combination of axle and baseplate, allows Venture to pair better with most deck shapes (+14.25" and above) with the pinch and slide that we've come to love.

Price wise I'm guessing $65? Yuto's latest model is around that range.
Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3044 on: June 13, 2022, 06:06:12 PM »
cast look better…you used to be able to hammer out the kingpin, height….I’m accepting of the forged high….

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3045 on: June 13, 2022, 07:16:55 PM »
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Can someone give me the tldr of why so many prefer the cast plates over the forged so much?
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The arguments in favor of cast venture plates include (1) 1.5 mm taller (resulting in 53.5 mm for the standard variants), (2)  less wheelbase extension with the casts - though I forget the exact figures, and (3) forged plates have a different ride quality...to some, they feel more "tinny" and rattle more underfoot.  Ultimately, it is one more thing for us to split hairs about.  Both forged and cast are good options. You would be fine with either, but you know how this board works (not excluding myself from the madness by any means).
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Thanks, was not aware of the wheel base differences. I'm an idiot but wouldn't the extension of the forged base plate combined with the lower height result in a similar pop feel to the higher but shorter wheelbase cast plates? The forged would just be lighter and lower overall (but with tinny feeling too)?

Idk but the forged plates are working out okay for me right now. Might just stick to them to keep myself from going further insane.

No you're on point and I've seen plenty of people here believe this compensation is true for all forged baseplates whether it be Indy, Venture, of Thunder. I don't think this necessarily works in practice though. Could just be in my head, who knows. One thing I believe to be true after watching Ben Degros vids is that a truck can be too light so maybe the slight extra heft from the cast plates is something I personally favor.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3046 on: June 13, 2022, 07:47:29 PM »
What about Rodney dropping bb’s into his baseplates!  Spin weight!…

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3047 on: June 13, 2022, 08:08:49 PM »
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cast v hollows coming in fall. regular baseplate with hollow axle and kingpin. first ones will be a kader pro model.
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Sauce?

Guess there's hope for a Low in 8.25 and above if they are changing up the product lineup.
[close]
https://i.ibb.co/kBwMfYg/841-A3-B70-C4-D0-44-C5-A503-0774-B81-A9-FF6.jpg
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raw & hollow? i'm sweating that final $ amount
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If you're a truck hoarder (like I assume most of us are) you've probably already done this combination of axle and baseplate, allows Venture to pair better with most deck shapes (+14.25" and above) with the pinch and slide that we've come to love.

Price wise I'm guessing $65? Yuto's latest model is around that range.

yeah, spot on with that. idk why i had it in my head that raws were more pricy than polished, so thanks for making me double check lol
and speaking of raws, i don't think i've seen anyone talk about or post a pic of them. anyone have strong feelings either way?

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3048 on: June 13, 2022, 08:22:58 PM »
What about Rodney dropping bb’s into his baseplates!  Spin weight!…

He only had to do that because he’s asleep on some kook trucks.
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3049 on: June 13, 2022, 08:46:28 PM »
Around late January my friend was also supposed to be doing a venture graphic and I asked him to ask if they could do on a cast hollow combo. He later told me they agreed and also decided to do it on the Kader truck

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3050 on: June 13, 2022, 08:47:29 PM »
Heard a little rumor that venture might adjust where their baseplate holes are drilled to make installation easier and bring in the WB a bit. Essentially sliding them up. Not 100% sure on the validity or when it would be though.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3051 on: June 13, 2022, 08:56:49 PM »
Heard a little rumor that venture might adjust where their baseplate holes are drilled to make installation easier and bring in the WB a bit. Essentially sliding them up. Not 100% sure on the validity or when it would be though.


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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3052 on: June 13, 2022, 09:02:55 PM »
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Heard a little rumor that venture might adjust where their baseplate holes are drilled to make installation easier and bring in the WB a bit. Essentially sliding them up. Not 100% sure on the validity or when it would be though.
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Haha!

I’ve taken screenshots of Kostons board, and it looks like this is what he does

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3053 on: June 13, 2022, 11:41:57 PM »
Can I put venture low hanger from a 5.2 on a forged baseplate from a venture 5.2 high? Will it be compatible?

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3054 on: June 13, 2022, 11:53:03 PM »
Can I put venture low hanger from a 5.2 on a forged baseplate from a venture 5.2 high? Will it be compatible?

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3055 on: June 14, 2022, 05:45:24 AM »
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Heard a little rumor that venture might adjust where their baseplate holes are drilled to make installation easier and bring in the WB a bit. Essentially sliding them up. Not 100% sure on the validity or when it would be though.
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Haha!

I’ve taken screenshots of Kostons board, and it looks like this is what he does

Would you be able to upload one? I'd be curious to see

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3056 on: June 14, 2022, 08:02:47 AM »
Heard a little rumor that venture might adjust where their baseplate holes are drilled to make installation easier and bring in the WB a bit. Essentially sliding them up. Not 100% sure on the validity or when it would be though.

My biggest complaint about Venture is that the front holes in the baseplate are too far back. The hanger gets in the way so you can't use a traditional skate tool. I gotta have a separate 3/8" wrench just for the front two bolts. Pain in the ass, but that's the price you gotta pay to be <AWAKE>

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3057 on: June 14, 2022, 12:53:30 PM »
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Heard a little rumor that venture might adjust where their baseplate holes are drilled to make installation easier and bring in the WB a bit. Essentially sliding them up. Not 100% sure on the validity or when it would be though.
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My biggest complaint about Venture is that the front holes in the baseplate are too far back. The hanger gets in the way so you can't use a traditional skate tool. I gotta have a separate 3/8" wrench just for the front two bolts. Pain in the ass, but that's the price you gotta pay to be <AWAKE>

get the ace tool or a spitfire metal tool, they're thinner than a regular t-tool and fit ventures
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3058 on: June 14, 2022, 01:10:40 PM »
Silver tool….only the best….

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3059 on: June 14, 2022, 01:23:14 PM »
Silver tool….only the best….

this has worked well for me with my ventures