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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3870 on: January 23, 2023, 09:09:34 PM »
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Venture has two standard heights (i got these numbers from Tactics btw but should be fairly accurate)
High = 53.5mm
Low = 48.3mm

The forged plates (which come on lights, hollows and titaniums) drop the height by 1.5mm
High = 52mm
Low = 46.8mm
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Thanks! V hollow lights are 48 too I just saw

Check my sig, Tactics numbers have been all over the place so the numbers in my sig are from DLX direct.
Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3871 on: January 23, 2023, 09:30:42 PM »
Any truck 52mm or below and I’m on 52/51s to start (currently on forged 147s/51mm-ish, might be 50 now). Pop feels amazing.

147s are the shit

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3872 on: January 24, 2023, 05:03:16 AM »
Truck madness got me again, riding an 8.3 Element with very tapered kicks, listed as a 8.3 x 31.9 x 14.25 x 6.75 x 6.5, but the tail feels way too short. Tried going from forged to cast baseplates and it helped a little, but I was ghost popping for so much of the session. Took me 3 hours before I figured that I needed to put my popping foot on the tip of the tail and snap down harder than usual.

Still not out of the woods, got me wondering if I should swap to Royal or Thunder cast, or sizing down from 53 to 52mm wheels.

Fuck!
Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3873 on: January 24, 2023, 05:22:35 AM »
Truck madness got me again, riding an 8.3 Element with very tapered kicks, listed as a 8.3 x 31.9 x 14.25 x 6.75 x 6.5, but the tail feels way too short. Tried going from forged to cast baseplates and it helped a little, but I was ghost popping for so much of the session. Took me 3 hours before I figured that I needed to put my popping foot on the tip of the tail and snap down harder than usual.

Still not out of the woods, got me wondering if I should swap to Royal or Thunder cast, or sizing down from 53 to 52mm wheels.

Fuck!


Did that board have way longer fingers of flat before the kick?  I ask only because someone else with another brand board from the same woodshop had issues with something similar compared to their previous board.  Once they adjusted, they ended up figuring it out and really liked the board and the way it worked for them.  That was on forged Thunders, but they also have other trucks including Ventures on similar boards.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3874 on: January 24, 2023, 06:50:15 AM »
does anyone make cone shaped bushings that are the venture translucent purple? Or does the loose truck conversion kit come in purple?

I'm not enjoying my break in period on the stock bushings, but i want to keep that classic venture look

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3875 on: January 24, 2023, 06:56:16 AM »
I've been on Thunder 149 cast and BBS 8.38 for a while now and wanna mess around with a Low setup. I prefer kinda flat decks and the generic mold I buy is from Frog, TKF, and the companies that seem to use the mellower presses.

Im considering a generic BBS 8.1x14.25 but curious about people's recommendations here. Crail decks are dramatically different shapes so I am not sold on those. I thought maybe a Baker 8.125 (their site says the 8 is steep) or April/Primitive could be cool. Years back I had the DLX 8.28x14.12 shape and found it way too constructive, but that was on Thunders and it had little fingers of flat.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3876 on: January 24, 2023, 07:00:50 AM »
does anyone make cone shaped bushings that are the venture translucent purple? Or does the loose truck conversion kit come in purple?

I'm not enjoying my break in period on the stock bushings, but i want to keep that classic venture look

Just take your roadside bushing and just sand the bottom side of it with old griptape. Pretty much venture conversion kit for free.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3877 on: January 24, 2023, 07:04:38 AM »
I've been on Thunder 149 cast and BBS 8.38 for a while now and wanna mess around with a Low setup. I prefer kinda flat decks and the generic mold I buy is from Frog, TKF, and the companies that seem to use the mellower presses.

Im considering a generic BBS 8.1x14.25 but curious about people's recommendations here. Crail decks are dramatically different shapes so I am not sold on those. I thought maybe a Baker 8.125 (their site says the 8 is steep) or April/Primitive could be cool. Years back I had the DLX 8.28x14.12 shape and found it way too constructive, but that was on Thunders and it had little fingers of flat.
Tbh I found my Habitat 8.1 bbs pressed on venture lows to feel surprisingly good.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3878 on: January 24, 2023, 11:25:08 AM »
Doesn’t quasi historically make really flat decks too? I still like the generic BBS one too, the way the concave transitions into the nose still makes it feel not like a total plank…

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3879 on: January 24, 2023, 12:21:24 PM »
You will have to go hand pick them in person since psstix presses in a stack you’ll have full spectrum of steep to mellow but from the bbs decks I’ve seen it’s medium

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3880 on: January 24, 2023, 12:48:27 PM »
I've been on Thunder 149 cast and BBS 8.38 for a while now and wanna mess around with a Low setup. I prefer kinda flat decks and the generic mold I buy is from Frog, TKF, and the companies that seem to use the mellower presses.

Im considering a generic BBS 8.1x14.25 but curious about people's recommendations here. Crail decks are dramatically different shapes so I am not sold on those. I thought maybe a Baker 8.125 (their site says the 8 is steep) or April/Primitive could be cool. Years back I had the DLX 8.28x14.12 shape and found it way too constructive, but that was on Thunders and it had little fingers of flat.

The UMA 8.125 is pretty mellow

What is your length pref? I can't do 31.5" which much of the 8.125s are, so it's 31.75 or greater (but under 32").

WB? The quasi 8.125s are all 14.125WB or something

April/Prim are all 14" unless you can produce a link to that magical Hamilton 8.125 you mentioned with a 14.25"WB? I'd be all over that...the 8.125 Primitives measure 8.125 but feel like 8.25s.


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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3881 on: January 24, 2023, 12:51:51 PM »
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Oh, hollow lo‘s are even lower?
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Venture has two standard heights (i got these numbers from Tactics btw but should be fairly accurate)
High = 53.5mm
Low = 48.3mm

The forged plates (which come on lights, hollows and titaniums) drop the height by 1.5mm
High = 52mm
Low = 46.8mm
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Thanks! V hollow lights are 48 too I just saw
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Check my sig, Tactics numbers have been all over the place so the numbers in my sig are from DLX direct.

The numbers in your sig don’t add up though. How is the difference between forged and cast different on highs and lows if the baseplates are the same?

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3882 on: January 24, 2023, 12:55:46 PM »
Well I figured I'd be throwing all my preferences out the window by going with lows. Right now I think 32 is the sweet spot or 31.9. Depends on the kicks I'd say and why I tend to stay away from steeper decks they kinda lock my ankles in. I've skated a 14.25/31.8 BBS that was super mellow and really enjoyed it because I could sorta land right in the start of the kick and not have that feeling.

Primitive doesn't sell that Hamilton shape but he posts it on his IG often. I asked if they ever would and he just hearted my DM and didn't respond.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3883 on: January 24, 2023, 02:03:20 PM »
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Oh, hollow lo‘s are even lower?
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Venture has two standard heights (i got these numbers from Tactics btw but should be fairly accurate)
High = 53.5mm
Low = 48.3mm

The forged plates (which come on lights, hollows and titaniums) drop the height by 1.5mm
High = 52mm
Low = 46.8mm
[close]

Thanks! V hollow lights are 48 too I just saw
[close]

Check my sig, Tactics numbers have been all over the place so the numbers in my sig are from DLX direct.
[close]

The numbers in your sig don’t add up though. How is the difference between forged and cast different on highs and lows if the baseplates are the same?
Oh nice catch! His sig is mostly accurate besides the difference in height for the LOs. Assuming the standard height is accurate, I subtracted 1.27mm (difference in height between forged and cast HIs) to get the new underlined height

Venture Truck Height:

LOWs are only available in 5.0 & 5.2
STANDARD LO - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED LO - 1.83”- 46.48mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1
STANDARD HI- 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED HI - 2.04” - 51.82m

TLDR: In summary, if you know the height of the standard truck (regardless of High or Low, Brand, etc.), the forged counterpart will drop the height about 1 - 1.5mm
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3884 on: January 24, 2023, 05:24:52 PM »


6.1 ventures v-hollows work really nicely with a short wheelbase 9” deck :)

Lots of fun!

I’ve never experienced any madness, venture are just perfect for everything I need!

I just enjoyed trying the new sizes and that’s as close to madness as I get.

Anyone else have a similar set up?

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3885 on: January 24, 2023, 05:45:52 PM »


6.1 ventures v-hollows work really nicely with a short wheelbase 9” deck :)

Lots of fun!

I’ve never experienced any madness, venture are just perfect for everything I need!

I just enjoyed trying the new sizes and that’s as close to madness as I get.

Anyone else have a similar set up?


Yes, it definitely helps with a board with shorter wheelbase on a similar length to what I usually ride with longer wheelbase on Indy trucks, so I thought Ventures would work well and they do.

It is fun to find what works best with some setups that might not work so well with others.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3886 on: January 24, 2023, 06:44:17 PM »
Well I figured I'd be throwing all my preferences out the window by going with lows. Right now I think 32 is the sweet spot or 31.9. Depends on the kicks I'd say and why I tend to stay away from steeper decks they kinda lock my ankles in. I've skated a 14.25/31.8 BBS that was super mellow and really enjoyed it because I could sorta land right in the start of the kick and not have that feeling.

Primitive doesn't sell that Hamilton shape but he posts it on his IG often. I asked if they ever would and he just hearted my DM and didn't respond.

Maybe check out polar? They have a 32"/8.125 with wheel wells

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3887 on: January 24, 2023, 06:55:57 PM »
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Oh, hollow lo‘s are even lower?
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Venture has two standard heights (i got these numbers from Tactics btw but should be fairly accurate)
High = 53.5mm
Low = 48.3mm

The forged plates (which come on lights, hollows and titaniums) drop the height by 1.5mm
High = 52mm
Low = 46.8mm
[close]

Thanks! V hollow lights are 48 too I just saw
[close]

Check my sig, Tactics numbers have been all over the place so the numbers in my sig are from DLX direct.
[close]

The numbers in your sig don’t add up though. How is the difference between forged and cast different on highs and lows if the baseplates are the same?
[close]
Oh nice catch! His sig is mostly accurate besides the difference in height for the LOs. Assuming the standard height is accurate, I subtracted 1.27mm (difference in height between forged and cast HIs) to get the new underlined height

Venture Truck Height:

LOWs are only available in 5.0 & 5.2
STANDARD LO - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED LO - 1.85”- 46.48mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1
STANDARD HI- 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED HI - 2.04” - 51.82m

TLDR: In summary, if you know the height of the standard truck (regardless of High or Low, Brand, etc.), the forged counterpart will drop the height about 1 - 1.5mm

Thanks guys, I just copied the numbers provided by DLX when they replied my DM and didn't double check that they made sense. And yes, going from cast to forged drops the height by 1.5mm.
Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3888 on: January 24, 2023, 09:25:40 PM »
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Oh, hollow lo‘s are even lower?
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Venture has two standard heights (i got these numbers from Tactics btw but should be fairly accurate)
High = 53.5mm
Low = 48.3mm

The forged plates (which come on lights, hollows and titaniums) drop the height by 1.5mm
High = 52mm
Low = 46.8mm
[close]

Thanks! V hollow lights are 48 too I just saw
[close]

Check my sig, Tactics numbers have been all over the place so the numbers in my sig are from DLX direct.
[close]

The numbers in your sig don’t add up though. How is the difference between forged and cast different on highs and lows if the baseplates are the same?
[close]
Oh nice catch! His sig is mostly accurate besides the difference in height for the LOs. Assuming the standard height is accurate, I subtracted 1.27mm (difference in height between forged and cast HIs) to get the new underlined height

Venture Truck Height:

LOWs are only available in 5.0 & 5.2
STANDARD LO - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED LO - 1.85”- 46.48mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1
STANDARD HI- 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED HI - 2.04” - 51.82m

TLDR: In summary, if you know the height of the standard truck (regardless of High or Low, Brand, etc.), the forged counterpart will drop the height about 1 - 1.5mm

Nice work! To also fix the inch measurements the forged low should be 1.83” not 1.85”, right?

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3889 on: January 25, 2023, 07:40:26 AM »
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Oh, hollow lo‘s are even lower?
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Venture has two standard heights (i got these numbers from Tactics btw but should be fairly accurate)
High = 53.5mm
Low = 48.3mm

The forged plates (which come on lights, hollows and titaniums) drop the height by 1.5mm
High = 52mm
Low = 46.8mm
[close]

Thanks! V hollow lights are 48 too I just saw
[close]

Check my sig, Tactics numbers have been all over the place so the numbers in my sig are from DLX direct.
[close]

The numbers in your sig don’t add up though. How is the difference between forged and cast different on highs and lows if the baseplates are the same?
[close]
Oh nice catch! His sig is mostly accurate besides the difference in height for the LOs. Assuming the standard height is accurate, I subtracted 1.27mm (difference in height between forged and cast HIs) to get the new underlined height

Venture Truck Height:

LOWs are only available in 5.0 & 5.2
STANDARD LO - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED LO - 1.85”- 46.48mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1
STANDARD HI- 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED HI - 2.04” - 51.82m

TLDR: In summary, if you know the height of the standard truck (regardless of High or Low, Brand, etc.), the forged counterpart will drop the height about 1 - 1.5mm
[close]

Nice work! To also fix the inch measurements the forged low should be 1.83” not 1.85”, right?
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3890 on: January 25, 2023, 09:31:50 AM »


6.1 ventures v-hollows work really nicely with a short wheelbase 9” deck :)

Lots of fun!

I’ve never experienced any madness, venture are just perfect for everything I need!

I just enjoyed trying the new sizes and that’s as close to madness as I get.

Anyone else have a similar set up?

I would love to try this out. I dont think it would work for me in the long run, but the WBSWB with ventures seems like it would make a lot of tricks feel/work nicely.
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3891 on: January 25, 2023, 09:38:46 AM »
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6.1 ventures v-hollows work really nicely with a short wheelbase 9” deck :)

Lots of fun!

I’ve never experienced any madness, venture are just perfect for everything I need!

I just enjoyed trying the new sizes and that’s as close to madness as I get.

Anyone else have a similar set up?
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I would love to try this out. I dont think it would work for me in the long run, but the WBSWB with ventures seems like it would make a lot of tricks feel/work nicely.

It’s definitely not something I skate every day but it’s for sure fun, I skate a lot narrower decks with ventures, I’d quite like to have a set up for every venture size, that’s as mad as my madness would go I think.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3892 on: January 25, 2023, 11:27:31 AM »
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6.1 ventures v-hollows work really nicely with a short wheelbase 9” deck :)

Lots of fun!

I’ve never experienced any madness, venture are just perfect for everything I need!

I just enjoyed trying the new sizes and that’s as close to madness as I get.

Anyone else have a similar set up?
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I would love to try this out. I dont think it would work for me in the long run, but the WBSWB with ventures seems like it would make a lot of tricks feel/work nicely.
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It’s definitely not something I skate every day but it’s for sure fun, I skate a lot narrower decks with ventures, I’d quite like to have a set up for every venture size, that’s as mad as my madness would go I think.

not necessarily WBSWB but i love ventures (esp. light ventures) on big wheel + long nose/tail decks. Any size or wb really 8.25/5.6 or 8.5/5.8 I feel the effects of the kick length a lot more on most tricks cuz my shoulders r kinda wide apart

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3893 on: January 27, 2023, 04:22:52 AM »
I bought V lights high ventures used, in good condition with a very low price !  I can't wait to try them  :D I skate standards, with an 8 deck and 14 WB, but sometimes struggle on certain tricks.. I hope the reduced weight is felt, even if it's only a few grams ! In addition if it is a little lower, much more reactive.

However, are you sure that the lights and hollows are a little lower ?  ;D

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3894 on: January 27, 2023, 06:55:35 AM »
I bought V lights high ventures used, in good condition with a very low price !  I can't wait to try them  :D I skate standards, with an 8 deck and 14 WB, but sometimes struggle on certain tricks.. I hope the reduced weight is felt, even if it's only a few grams ! In addition if it is a little lower, much more reactive.

However, are you sure that the lights and hollows are a little lower ?  ;D

as long as the person you bought from kept them on the forged baseplates, yep

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3895 on: January 27, 2023, 06:59:19 AM »
Well I did it- got an 8" x14.2 deck on the way and 5.2 low. Think I'll toss some used 52 that are now 50 on there. Will be fun to fuck with.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3896 on: January 27, 2023, 07:35:06 AM »
Well I did it- got an 8" x14.2 deck on the way and 5.2 low. Think I'll toss some used 52 that are now 50 on there. Will be fun to fuck with.

I remember you being taller and liking longer boards, I think. What’s the length?
With ventures I tend to bring the ball of my popping foot closer to the tail, which suits me fine as that was what I had to do in the whale tale bridgebolt era.
Skating 50s is the shit. I am made out wet paper bags, and the extra weight of a versatile wheel is terrible. I’d rather scuff my clothing and walk my board to the spot. Small wheels feel so…frivolous and nice.

Hope the setup is fun, I’ve found this same setup to really halt my gear anxiety: shit just works (slow flatground attempts of tricks I could sorta do 25 years ago).

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3897 on: January 27, 2023, 09:50:05 AM »
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I bought V lights high ventures used, in good condition with a very low price !  I can't wait to try them  :D I skate standards, with an 8 deck and 14 WB, but sometimes struggle on certain tricks.. I hope the reduced weight is felt, even if it's only a few grams ! In addition if it is a little lower, much more reactive.

However, are you sure that the lights and hollows are a little lower ?  ;D
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as long as the person you bought from kept them on the forged baseplates, yep

Yes the baseplate is forged !  A lot of people say that lights don't change anything for skating, but a lighter and slightly lower board helps me with tricks! (I'm small haha)

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3898 on: January 27, 2023, 10:19:02 AM »
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Well I did it- got an 8" x14.2 deck on the way and 5.2 low. Think I'll toss some used 52 that are now 50 on there. Will be fun to fuck with.
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I remember you being taller and liking longer boards, I think. What’s the length?
With ventures I tend to bring the ball of my popping foot closer to the tail, which suits me fine as that was what I had to do in the whale tale bridgebolt era.
Skating 50s is the shit. I am made out wet paper bags, and the extra weight of a versatile wheel is terrible. I’d rather scuff my clothing and walk my board to the spot. Small wheels feel so…frivolous and nice.

Hope the setup is fun, I’ve found this same setup to really halt my gear anxiety: shit just works (slow flatground attempts of tricks I could sorta do 25 years ago).

It's a generic 31.75 or 31.8. I do normally prefer them on higher trucks,  however, lo trucks change a bunch of angles and bullshit. I'd thus rather scale the deck to the trucks than just slap lo trucks on my normal deck.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3899 on: January 27, 2023, 12:22:58 PM »
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Well I did it- got an 8" x14.2 deck on the way and 5.2 low. Think I'll toss some used 52 that are now 50 on there. Will be fun to fuck with.
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I remember you being taller and liking longer boards, I think. What’s the length?
With ventures I tend to bring the ball of my popping foot closer to the tail, which suits me fine as that was what I had to do in the whale tale bridgebolt era.
Skating 50s is the shit. I am made out wet paper bags, and the extra weight of a versatile wheel is terrible. I’d rather scuff my clothing and walk my board to the spot. Small wheels feel so…frivolous and nice.

Hope the setup is fun, I’ve found this same setup to really halt my gear anxiety: shit just works (slow flatground attempts of tricks I could sorta do 25 years ago).
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It's a generic 31.75 or 31.8. I do normally prefer them on higher trucks,  however, lo trucks change a bunch of angles and bullshit. I'd thus rather scale the deck to the trucks than just slap lo trucks on my normal deck.


Makes sense, interested to read how it goes