Venture 2020

[Xen]

I put Ace medium bushings on my 8" Venture hollows and holy smokes do they turn now. Had to remove the bottom washer though, they are taller. I don't care what it does to geometry it felt like a more stable Royal which is crazy.

Get the ACE low bushings. Trust me.

BTW - putting in ACE Hards in ROYALS gives you...wait for it (also a broken record on this)...a turnier Venture (without losing stability). Or, if you take the IKP royal and use venture/indy bushings in them you'll get what I'm on about.

I've posted it a number of times, side by side the angles of the geo of both are sooo close..the longer pin and taller bottom bushing (plus geo of course) give the royals it's turn.

[mstuntbless]

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Could someone who consistently skates venture lows tell me about your life please?

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Mega cock
Mega yacht
Mega mansion
Mega paycheck
Mega pension
Mega stock portfolio

(not me personally I'm a 5.8 guy, but my friend who rides Venture Lo says he's got all the above)

 
Knew it

[AlumarX]

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I put Ace medium bushings on my 8" Venture hollows and holy smokes do they turn now. Had to remove the bottom washer though, they are taller. I don't care what it does to geometry it felt like a more stable Royal which is crazy.

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Get the ACE low bushings. Trust me.

BTW - putting in ACE Hards in ROYALS gives you...wait for it (also a broken record on this)...a turnier Venture (without losing stability). Or, if you take the IKP royal and use venture/indy bushings in them you'll get what I'm on about.

I've posted it a number of times, side by side the angles of the geo of both are sooo close..the longer pin and taller bottom bushing (plus geo of course) give the royals it's turn.

Yeah I followed your advice and got both mediums and hard ace bushings from escapist. Put the hards on the 'yals and meds on the ventures. You're a genie, I love them both as I prefer a turnier truck.

[gaunting]

for anyone that feels they just can’t get venture’s (specifically highs) to turn as much as they’d like. I think I found the perfect solution.

 slappy 85a top bushing, Indy 78a bottom bushing. slappy top bushings are the same height as  venture tops, and Indy aftermarket bottoms are the same height as venture bottoms. these things turn so much nicer. almost like a thunder.

[Kunnallisjäte]

Are 5.2 cast lows discontinued?

https://venturetrucks.net/

I still can't say if I like cast lows with 50mm wheels better than forged hi with 52. But maybe DLX has settled this one for me...

[Mbrimson88]

Are 5.2 cast lows discontinued?

https://venturetrucks.net/

I still can't say if I like cast lows with 50mm wheels better than forged hi with 52. But maybe DLX has settled this one for me...

I had noticed fewer options on the products in their catalog too, but I don't know if it is just a current catalog or everything going forward.

Example with other DLX brands, but Spitfire often doesn't have all their stock shown in every catalog, but the product is still available and is often restocked anyway.


They could be minimising products though, depending on interest or sales, eg minimal sales on some things, so only doing limited runs of those products now and then, not standard lines that are available all year round.

[rikki]

for anyone that feels they just can’t get venture’s (specifically highs) to turn as much as they’d like. I think I found the perfect solution.

 slappy 85a top bushing, Indy 78a bottom bushing. slappy top bushings are the same height as  venture tops, and Indy aftermarket bottoms are the same height as venture bottoms. these things turn so much nicer. almost like a thunder.

This is intriguing info. On a side note: is Indy aftermarket top bushing taller/lower than a Venture top?

[Xen]

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for anyone that feels they just can’t get venture’s (specifically highs) to turn as much as they’d like. I think I found the perfect solution.

 slappy 85a top bushing, Indy 78a bottom bushing. slappy top bushings are the same height as  venture tops, and Indy aftermarket bottoms are the same height as venture bottoms. these things turn so much nicer. almost like a thunder.

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This is intriguing info. On a side note: is Indy aftermarket top bushing taller/lower than a Venture top?

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As Venture bushings are basically nonexistent outside of new trucks, which bushings are the best (size-wise) as replacements for Venture Hi's? Indy?

Tried searching but got lost in the jungle. Much obliged.

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Deluxe Tack & Supply Supercush bushings, if you can find them or just use Indy, the tops are 1mm taller at best and work fine. Currently running Indy Black barrrel bottoms, bones hard tops (they compress down real nice, no need for a washer) in my forged 5.8s now that I ride tighter.

If you like looser, ACE regular bottoms and ACE HARD LOW tops (requires two sets of bushing$); is an amazing combo in Ventures...they get so swervy but still stable.

Was our Savior Bobby riding the 14.44 WB twin back then? Ventures + that wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelbaaaaaaaaaaase.

Same idea there @rikki

[Xen]

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for anyone that feels they just can’t get venture’s (specifically highs) to turn as much as they’d like. I think I found the perfect solution.

 slappy 85a top bushing, Indy 78a bottom bushing. slappy top bushings are the same height as  venture tops, and Indy aftermarket bottoms are the same height as venture bottoms. these things turn so much nicer. almost like a thunder.

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This is intriguing info. On a side note: is Indy aftermarket top bushing taller/lower than a Venture top?

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As Venture bushings are basically nonexistent outside of new trucks, which bushings are the best (size-wise) as replacements for Venture Hi's? Indy?

Tried searching but got lost in the jungle. Much obliged.

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Deluxe Tack & Supply Supercush bushings, if you can find them or just use Indy, the tops are 1mm taller at best and work fine. Currently running Indy Black barrrel bottoms, bones hard tops (they compress down real nice, no need for a washer) in my forged 5.8s now that I ride tighter.

If you like looser, ACE regular bottoms and ACE HARD LOW tops (requires two sets of bushing$); is an amazing combo in Ventures...they get so swervy but still stable.

Was our Savior Bobby riding the 14.44 WB twin back then? Ventures + that wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelbaaaaaaaaaaase.

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My issue would be going through all the effort of designing a setup to get these trucks to turn only to not like how they turn, when I could just use a truck I know turns on any board and be fine. Obviously I'm compromising on stability and pop but I don't notice that as much as other people I guess so my priorities vary. I also don't have any broken bushings on had so idk what I'd do there, plus I'm weary to throw bones top washers for reasons I mentioned earlier. I'm sure you can get them to turn, but if it requires already broken bushings, specific washers, and getting a new deck with a specific cap on the wb I don't think they're for me. With that said, if someone finds a dream setup with this info that'd be sick

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ACE bushings (dual Duro) low top/Regular bottoms work amazing in Ventures, waaaay better than stock but not a small investment.

Same idea there @rikki

Slappy bushings compress so much they turn into lows, really works great. Throw in a flat washer on top and boom.

[chaosisme]

Turny ventures:

Normal bottom washer
Stock bushings
Flat washer from bones bushing on top
Nut flush with no threads showing

I promise you this is turny and stable

There are too many overly complicated suggestions on here

[roba]

Turny ventures:

Normal bottom washer
Stock bushings
Flat washer from bones bushing on top
Nut flush with no threads showing

I promise you this is turny and stable

There are too many overly complicated suggestions on here

[munchbox]

hear me out:
bones washer for top and bottom

[chaosisme]

No need, bushings will blow out easier and you will lose the magic stability, bones washer replacing top.

Simple

Try it, best modification I’ve ever made and I’ve skated ventures my whole life

[Xen]

Turny ventures:

Normal bottom washer
Stock bushings
Flat washer from bones bushing on top
Nut flush with no threads showing

I promise you this is turny and stable

There are too many overly complicated suggestions on here

Except stock isn't stable for lots of people.

Tell us haven't ridden dual duro bushings in your Ventures without telling us.

A lot of assumptions on here.

Oddly, the only truck I've ridden that hasn't benefitted from a dual duro bushing setup is Thunder because they're already snappy.

If you can stomach bones bushings, there's not need to dual duro, their design provides the snap back to center a harder top provides to a softer bottom bushings.

[CarcassToss]

I ride fairly medium trucks and and as long as tightness is OK never found any issues with the bushings included with Venture or Thunder at my weight. Tuning bushings sounds both cool and a potential rabbit hole, so I tell myself that snap back to center or other benefits aren't limiting my skating.

When I rode Aces it made sense because of the intended turn and geo. The harder top prevents you from almost u turning more than you do and makes the turn feel a bit more distinct from Indy

[Xen]

I ride fairly medium trucks and and as long as tightness is OK never found any issues with the bushings included with Venture or Thunder at my weight. Tuning bushings sounds both cool and a potential rabbit hole, so I tell myself that snap back to center or other benefits aren't limiting my skating.

When I rode Aces it made sense because of the intended turn and geo. The harder top prevents you from almost u turning more than you do and makes the turn feel a bit more distinct from Indy

Big rabbit hole, but ACE has done all the work for us. There is a reason why they chose a 5 duro spread and picked the duros they did. Putting conicals in indy 5 duro apart (softer bottom/harder top) gets rid of that sluggishness. Same goes for Vents, you can get that quick adjustment if you tune it right.

If you don't care, you don't care. But too many people just shrug and go huh, stock is great without considering their weight and preferences.

It's why everyone bitched when the new royals dropped. or the new IKP thunders....Waaaaaah too soft. Buck up and get some proper bushings for your weight class, fatass =D

This is not directed at anyone in this thread, but I truely wonder if people understand how 'suspension' mechnaisms actually work in relations to weight/WB/terrain/wheel shape and size (and I'm not just talking about cars

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I ride fairly medium trucks and and as long as tightness is OK never found any issues with the bushings included with Venture or Thunder at my weight. Tuning bushings sounds both cool and a potential rabbit hole, so I tell myself that snap back to center or other benefits aren't limiting my skating.

When I rode Aces it made sense because of the intended turn and geo. The harder top prevents you from almost u turning more than you do and makes the turn feel a bit more distinct from Indy

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Big rabbit hole, but ACE has done all the work for us. There is a reason why they chose a 5 duro spread and picked the duros they did. Putting conicals in indy 5 duro apart (softer bottom/harder top) gets rid of that sluggishness. Same goes for Vents, you can get that quick adjustment if you tune it right.

If you don't care, you don't care. But too many people just shrug and go huh, stock is great without considering their weight and preferences.

It's why everyone bitched when the new royals dropped. or the new IKP thunders....Waaaaaah too soft. Buck up and get some proper bushings for your weight class, fatass =D

This is not directed at anyone in this thread, but I truely wonder if people understand how 'suspension' mechnaisms actually work in relations to weight/WB/terrain/wheel shape and size (and I'm not just talking about cars

i agree with a lot of this @Xen, particularly the part about ace being optimized.

in general, im stock bushings guy. these days the only
times i haven’t had stock bushings, is because i cannot get any regular venture bushings. which is bumming me out.


appreciate all of the work folks have done in tweaking bushings, i cannot motivate myself to do so

[CarcassToss]

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I ride fairly medium trucks and and as long as tightness is OK never found any issues with the bushings included with Venture or Thunder at my weight. Tuning bushings sounds both cool and a potential rabbit hole, so I tell myself that snap back to center or other benefits aren't limiting my skating.

When I rode Aces it made sense because of the intended turn and geo. The harder top prevents you from almost u turning more than you do and makes the turn feel a bit more distinct from Indy

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Big rabbit hole, but ACE has done all the work for us. There is a reason why they chose a 5 duro spread and picked the duros they did. Putting conicals in indy 5 duro apart (softer bottom/harder top) gets rid of that sluggishness. Same goes for Vents, you can get that quick adjustment if you tune it right.

If you don't care, you don't care. But too many people just shrug and go huh, stock is great without considering their weight and preferences.

It's why everyone bitched when the new royals dropped. or the new IKP thunders....Waaaaaah too soft. Buck up and get some proper bushings for your weight class, fatass =D

This is not directed at anyone in this thread, but I truely wonder if people understand how 'suspension' mechnaisms actually work in relations to weight/WB/terrain/wheel shape and size (and I'm not just talking about cars

Don't get me wrong I'm not against changing bushings to harder or softer because of weight I've just never been peaked by wanting to fine tune the turn characteristic. I could imagine a lot of changes might be kinda cool, but there's so many damn options I'd get lost in the sauce 100%. I'm also not against others experimenting, its just a level of madness (it seems) that I cannot fathom.

The Thunder bushings simply don't make sense and I bring it up because DLX bushings are fragile and temp prone and they use the drop to introduce something absurdly soft instead. Maybe itll freeze up to normal in winter? I haven't ridden Royals or have any comments there. I do change to harder bushings in Indy's, leave Ventures stock, and when Thunders implode I warranty or get the new 94a rebuild kit which doesn't feel crazy different from stock. I also kinda enjoy each truck for its turn more or less aside from Ace, it's too much.

[chaosisme]

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Turny ventures:

Normal bottom washer
Stock bushings
Flat washer from bones bushing on top
Nut flush with no threads showing

I promise you this is turny and stable

There are too many overly complicated suggestions on here

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Except stock isn't stable for lots of people.

Tell us haven't ridden dual duro bushings in your Ventures without telling us.

A lot of assumptions on here.

Oddly, the only truck I've ridden that hasn't benefitted from a dual duro bushing setup is Thunder because they're already snappy.

If you can stomach bones bushings, there's not need to dual duro, their design provides the snap back to center a harder top provides to a softer bottom bushings.

Assumptions just based on posts I’ve seen, haven’t seen many if any people trying just changing the top bushing to to a flat bones one and I swear by it so I thought I’d chime in because some people may benefit from it as much as I have.

[Beardedpirate]

I actually ride a stock purple bottom and medium bones top, perfect combo for me. They turn nice and I get no (or very rarely minimal) wheel bite. I have a set of green loose bushings waiting on the side line as spares and when the time comes I will chuck the short top bushing away and use the bottom one with another bones on top.

[CarcassToss]

My recent Venture bushings haven't had any issue. I compared to my last set and the stock top washer is a bit wider. The "cups" angle out to the side more. You can still see where it binds on the hanger and the bottom of the hanger also has binding marks from the bottom washer. My 5.8 on my transition setup are older and don't have the bottom bite. Those bushings got chewed up quick and the top is about to go again. My 5.6 hollows have no issue and I skate that setup about 3x more.

[hiljentaa]

My recent Venture bushings haven't had any issue. I compared to my last set and the stock top washer is a bit wider. The "cups" angle out to the side more. You can still see where it binds on the hanger and the bottom of the hanger also has binding marks from the bottom washer. My 5.8 on my transition setup are older and don't have the bottom bite. Those bushings got chewed up quick and the top is about to go again. My 5.6 hollows have no issue and I skate that setup about 3x more.

The only 'mod' I do to my Ventures is to swap out the large stock washers with the small washers that come with Indy aftermarket bushings.

I have a set of stock purple bushings that I've skated for over two years without blowing out this way.

[Unkle Fleak]

I got to hit the curb a few times before werk today. My favorite shit is coming about on my ventures. I love that my shits are all the way loose I can stand full on the rail and not get wheel bite.

I never had that as a kid.

[Esmith5488]

about to switch my baseplates to some forged. switched trucks and decks and now I'm having a hard time getting a good pop so I'm hoping the lower baseplate gives me a little help. currently on the real 825 easy rider from the 8.5 AH easy rider and I'm having a time getting used to it. I'm coming from ace lows so I get there's going to be a big difference but I have to be way more aware of really putting my foot down enough when I pop. also might go to 52 classics instead of 53 too

[j....soy.....]

Maybe mucking around with bushings and washers might drop another mill?  They are very different trucks though as you mentioned so it might take some time. To me the ventures work the pocket better than any other truck.  You have to give it more effort though. 

[Esmith5488]

Maybe mucking around with bushings and washers might drop another mill?  They are very different trucks though as you mentioned so it might take some time. To me the ventures work the pocket better than any other truck.  You have to give it more effort though.

I did switch out a few parts just now, had some aftermarket bushing and old riptide pivots. I have a little time to mess with it  though.

[OhioGuy]

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I ride fairly medium trucks and and as long as tightness is OK never found any issues with the bushings included with Venture or Thunder at my weight. Tuning bushings sounds both cool and a potential rabbit hole, so I tell myself that snap back to center or other benefits aren't limiting my skating.

When I rode Aces it made sense because of the intended turn and geo. The harder top prevents you from almost u turning more than you do and makes the turn feel a bit more distinct from Indy

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If you don't care, you don't care. But too many people just shrug and go huh, stock is great without considering their weight and preferences.

It's why everyone bitched when the new royals dropped. or the new IKP thunders....Waaaaaah too soft. Buck up and get some proper bushings for your weight class, fatass =D

Upgrading to hard bushings was a game changer for me. At over 200lbs I used to get wheelbite just from cruising, now that never happens.

We’re all different and have different needs. I’m just glad we have options to make our trucks perform how we want them to.

[boofactory]

Tried some 3/8 offset double drilled baseplates yesterday, carviest I’ve ever felt a venture be. Tried it on a ishod twin tail, enjoyed how it made the kicks longer, twin nose feeling.

Also on the subject of bushings, I run stock purple bushings, stock bottom washer, bones flat top washer, and kingpin nut flush with the top of the kingpin.

[j....soy.....]

Have you guys drilled both a cast and a forged?  Is the forged harder to drill?  I might try this at some point.   Dumb question but do you usually ride them both pushed in?  Or just the front/back truck? 

Im a bones guy so what do I know, but the flat washer and conical bushings I think make a huge difference in getting them turning. 

[boofactory]

I ride both of them set in but I’ve only run them on the 14.4 wheelbase, maybe I’d try to mess with one or the other offset on a shorter wheelbase. I tried it out on a cast plate. I think forged would be a similar experience, just gotta be accurate with the drill and press hard, haha.
I’ve seen forged plates on here redrilled, it’s possible for sure.