Venture 2020

[art hellman]

here’s a pic of the indys after the V8s had been on— to show how much further in they sit than even an Indy

[Mbrimson88]

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I, for no good reason, decided to try my cast ventures after almost a year of contentment on indy forged and later indy standard. And the only reason I wanted to try it was because I bought a Chems wheelbase tool and drilled the plates in a 1/4".

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Keen to see any pics of your baseplates if you have them.

Been drilling it by eye for a while now on multiple brands / sets of baseplates, but seeing if the Chems tool really does make things way better / easier to redrill baseplates.  They are stupidly expensive to get sent here to Australia, so I just make do with what I have.

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I have photos now. I don't know if it's coincidence or what but my wife bought me some af1s to try that arrived today and I wasn't planning on setting them up yet because the ventures with the redrilled holes felt awesome. So I look down at my board during today's brief sesh in the garage and notice one of my wheels looks wonky. Come to find out, the axle is bent. I did slam my board onto the ground wheels-first in a fit of rage the other day but I'm mostly certain that it wasn't on that side of the board and I feel like I would have noticed during the week or so that's passed since and I also tried a couple times to bend the other axles in a similar fashion (unsuccessfully). These trucks were like a month old (despite being purchased new on ebay)....so it's kinda disappointing.



So now I'm trying the aces, but I have some 5.8 hangers I can throw on the baseplates if I hate the aces (which totally makes more sense than just throwing on the 5.8 hangers now, or even putting the indys I was happily riding a month ago back on :faceplam: )

Thanks for the pics.  They look really good and pretty much just right, but as per some I did, I just wiggled the drill in the hole that was a bit out and straightened it out well enough.

Also I sent you a message, but then thought you might not know to check, but you can always hit up DLX for the warranty as bent axles are covered there.


https://www.dlxsf.com/warranty/

[jamesmocapaldi]

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I, for no good reason, decided to try my cast ventures after almost a year of contentment on indy forged and later indy standard. And the only reason I wanted to try it was because I bought a Chems wheelbase tool and drilled the plates in a 1/4".

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Keen to see any pics of your baseplates if you have them.

Been drilling it by eye for a while now on multiple brands / sets of baseplates, but seeing if the Chems tool really does make things way better / easier to redrill baseplates.  They are stupidly expensive to get sent here to Australia, so I just make do with what I have.

[close]

I have photos now. I don't know if it's coincidence or what but my wife bought me some af1s to try that arrived today and I wasn't planning on setting them up yet because the ventures with the redrilled holes felt awesome. So I look down at my board during today's brief sesh in the garage and notice one of my wheels looks wonky. Come to find out, the axle is bent. I did slam my board onto the ground wheels-first in a fit of rage the other day but I'm mostly certain that it wasn't on that side of the board and I feel like I would have noticed during the week or so that's passed since and I also tried a couple times to bend the other axles in a similar fashion (unsuccessfully). These trucks were like a month old (despite being purchased new on ebay)....so it's kinda disappointing.



So now I'm trying the aces, but I have some 5.8 hangers I can throw on the baseplates if I hate the aces (which totally makes more sense than just throwing on the 5.8 hangers now, or even putting the indys I was happily riding a month ago back on :faceplam: )

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Thanks for the pics.  They look really good and pretty much just right, but as per some I did, I just wiggled the drill in the hole that was a bit out and straightened it out well enough.

Also I sent you a message, but then thought you might not know to check, but you can always hit up DLX for the warranty as bent axles are covered there.


https://www.dlxsf.com/warranty/

Not sure if my response went through but I got your message! Thanks. DLX just reached back out to me today-- will report back if they replace even though I bought my ventures on ebay (still new condition).

[j....soy.....]

If you’re stuck with them…at least they look like Aces….

[Unkle Fleak]

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Tried the V8's today for the first time. 5.6 on a 8.25 x 14.38 DLX.

First sesh was solely on the normal baseplate setup (ie. normal cast Venture wb effect).

Holy shit the bushings (transparent light blue) felt squirrely in the beginning. A large part of the sesh was spent on just breaking them in. Gradually got to tighten 'em a bit, but they're not "there" yet, as I like my trucks fairly tight. Gotta give 'em more time.

The trucks are heavy (5.6 almost 400g). Got used to that pretty quickly, though. Pop felt off at first because of the new bushings, but once they started to firm up, ollies started to feel nice. Somehow the pop felt a bit "soft" somehow, for the lack of a better word -- maybe the new bushings still. Plus I was on Bones X97s, so there's that.

Anyway, grinds were good, the turn was nice (I do like the Venture turn, I ride them in bowls no problem), noseslides were happening, all good. Overall impression pretty promising.

Suffice it to say I have to skate them again to get proper feel of them with broken in bushings.

After that, Imma pull in the back truck and see what happens after that.

Thank you Venture, thank you skateboarding. I have good things in my life to fill up my short time on this planet.

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V8 review pt.2: the pulled-in truck episode

For the second session on my new 5.6 V8s I pulled in the rear truck, leaving the front truck in the normal position. Same deck of course (DLX 8.25 x 14.38 with a 6.5 tail).

NOTE OF IMPORTANCE: Venture advertises the V8 wb effect as being 0.25 inches per truck. This is simply not true. I repeatedly measured (and was sober at the time) the offset between the normal and the pulled-in holes, and the difference is EXACTLY 5/16 or 0,3125 inches per truck. End of discussion. What's interesting is that the difference between Venture's official info vs. reality is that big. I mean, this can be consequential for some. Or an important matter of principle.

Anyway.

During the second sesh the new translucent light blue bushings finally started to feel nice and Venture-y. I gotta admit I was a bit worried for a while that the new bushings would remain too soft and I'd have to go down the bushing madness swap-o-rama rabbit hole. Luckily: no. Give 'em a bit of time, they will firm up.

On to the most important point, ie. the pulled-in back truck: unsurprisingly my pop felt a bit off at first. Had to readjust my back foot position for a bit. But pretty soon it started to actually feel pretty great as I got used to the longer tail. The timing was of course a bit different and at first I felt that I'm not gonna be able to pop as high, but as the session went on, I started to like it more and more as I got used to the lighter and quicker pop, which took less effort than with the normal setup.

So all kinda good and yeah, but a TRUE eureka moment happened when I moved from just cruising and ollieing and riding flatground to a section of my local park that has big transitions, banks and corners. I REALLY, REALLY enjoying popping ollies from banks with the "new" longer tail, and actually pretty easily managed to ollie over this pyramid top that has been giving me difficulties before. Normally with a long wb and a short-ish tail I feel like I'm sometimes too slow (my bad mostly of course, I'm not GT) in popping from banks at high speed. The pulled-in back truck made a nice difference in that I felt that I could hit my tail better and do a more controlled ollie. This kind of thing is of course mostly not a problem for peeps that can skate good, but I'm older and slower and need all the help I can get. Also, 180 ollies off the pyramid corner felt really good.

The overall shorter wb didn't feel much different in general. Riding a bowl was totally ok and I still enjoyed the Venture turn a whole lot. No comply 180's and pop shuvs felt good, better than with the shorter tail. Oh, and to add -- manual point felt a bit weird at first, but that was expected as well. Nothing I couldn't get used to.

As said before, the V8s are pretty heavy so that can put some peeps off, but I seemed to get used to it fairly quickly. Coming from 5.6 V-Lights the difference is noticeable, but it's not critical. On the other hand, the heftiness felt really good when going fast on trannies.

That's basically it.

In a nutshell, I for myself (totally subjectively) feel that the V8 is a great truck that gives interesting possibilities for one's ride/pop/board control feel -- and of course more potential rabbit holes for truck madness, too.

Anyway, Imma keep riding them with e.g. 14.38 wb and 6.5 tail decks which I thought felt too clumsy for me before. Others might enjoy the trucks in many other ways.

Excellent work. - 5/8s puts us inside the ace wb I think for sure.
Unless I don’t remember how to fraction and shit

[munchbox]

i feel like we can unanimously agree that
bobby worrest has the best venture part of the 2020s

who would be the runner ups?

[Fifty8mm]

i feel like we can unanimously agree that
bobby worrest has the best venture part of the 2020s

who would be the runner ups?

Was Roger Krebs part in 2020?
That shit makes me want to skate. So that one as a runner up.

[BeachChicken]

i feel like we can unanimously agree that
bobby worrest has the best venture part of the 2020s

who would be the runner ups?

Nick Matthews Uprise

[art hellman]

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i feel like we can unanimously agree that
bobby worrest has the best venture part of the 2020s

who would be the runner ups?

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Nick Matthews Uprise

probably… but other acceptable answers include:



or


(even tho 2016)

or


(even tho 2017)

[Big Brother]

All this venture talk over the last 6 or 7 years, I might actually fold and try a pair, taking a break from my thunders for a min.

[roba]

i'm only speaking from personal experience here, but 4 years is a pretty long while and i haven't been thinking of going back to whatever i was skating in the past at all

[munchbox]

seconded, im so locked in
if it aint broke, dont fix it
and everything else was broke

[scab]

I put it in my will that I want to be buried with a set of 5.8s.

[rocklobster]

seconded, im so locked in
if it aint broke, dont fix it
and everything else was broke

I can deal with deck and wheel madness as long as I'm AWAKE.

[j....soy.....]

I tried Mindys, Ace Lows, Ventures work the best for me hands down.  If I wanted perfection, I'd just try harder at finding the right wheelbases and nose/tail lengths. 

Skated the short WB set up on the V8's, the tail is so long....I feel like I can blunt anything....if I could ollie high enough... parking block it is.....

[Mbrimson88]

Skated the short WB set up on the V8's, the tail is so long....I feel like I can blunt anything....

Funny you say that, because that is one of the main things I like about having the back truck drilled in on my boards now.  Sure other things work better too, but blunt variations are something I have always liked a lot, be it on a curb edge, on a small ledge, quarter pipes or transition, or even some waxed up bank / street scenarios, where it gives me a little more go to.

It also is nice if or when the tail wears down a little, as it helps the board last a bit longer / has a longer useable life for me anyway.

[munchbox]

If I wanted perfection, I'd just try harder at finding the right wheelbases and nose/tail lengths. 

im sorta at the same place
but i think v8s allow 14.25-14.5wb to work for me
14.5 with the front truck pulled in feels perfect
i think i would do the same with 14.38

mind you, these are custom forged v8s
so i think i would run the regular position on 14.25wb

anything around 17.5 total wheelbase is my jam
all thats left is deciding my next board
whether i gradually decrease wheelbase
or just go down to my minimum immediately

[tzhangdox]

Posted a pic in the setup thread:

Last week I set up a Palace 8.3 with V8s, pretty random combo.

It’s the weird shape thats about 32 long with a 14.81 wheelbase and short, stubby kicks. Would feel ridiculous on most trucks but actually works well with V8s.

Rough math: V8s reduce wheelbase by about 0.6, so this setup rides more like a 32 board with a ~14.2 wheelbase on cast Ventures — an oddly hard combo to find.

Most 8.3-8.5 boards with a 14.2-14.25 wheelbase tend to be shorter than 32, and you usually have to go up to 14.38 to get more length.

Weirdly, this shape/truck combo is hard to replicate with normal Ventures and another board. Pop feels really nice—springy without being too light or too heavy. My issue with V8s on most boards is that they make the pop feel a bit weak, but that’s not a problem here.

It definitely feels smaller and more nimble than my usual setup on cast Ventures. Visually, the bolts being so far apart is a bit jarring. I often have my front foot over two of the four front bolts for certain tricks (noseslides, crooks, 180 nosegrinds), but on this setup, I have to remember to place my foot further back — otherwise theyre basically right over the front wheels.

The kicks still feel stubby when standing on them, but the pop is great because of the v8s, so it’s more of a difference in feel than function. I do have to pop more off the tip instead of keeping my back foot near the bolts like I would on many more normal setups.

Overall, it's a fun setup. Makes flatground easier and has a nice, snappy pop. Biggest downside is the super tapered kicks. Gotta be more precise on grinds/slides so my size 13 feet don’t drag. If the shape was just a bit fuller or widened to 8.5, it’d be even better.

And as a bbs loyalist, dwindle wood is actually pretty good

[j....soy.....]

That lines up well with that wheelbase but I remember those Dwindle boards having an extra finger of flat? 

Looks sick!  I think the wood is good, definitely would cop before PS….

The other thing about the long tail is it works well with some tricks ie. straight pop, but still like three flips maybe not so much….

I’m with mbrim88 on extending the life….its kinda in my rotation now once a board is older.  Maybe even some tricks I’d switch it up.  IMO manuals are way easier….

[tzhangdox]

That lines up well with that wheelbase but I remember those Dwindle boards having an extra finger of flat? 

Looks sick!  I think the wood is good, definitely would cop before PS….

The other thing about the long tail is it works well with some tricks ie. straight pop, but still like three flips maybe not so much….

I’m with mbrim88 on extending the life….its kinda in my rotation now once a board is older.  Maybe even some tricks I’d switch it up.  IMO manuals are way easier….

There is some finger of flat space, but because the nose and tail are so short, it still feels fairly explosive, though not particularly heavy with the v8s. Tre flips scoop very easily on this board. Not sure these short kicks would be conducive to extending the life, but that wasn't a point of consideration for me.

[I Can't Think]

I'm waiting for them to drop some V8's with hollow axles then I'm gonna give them a go, sound sick from what people are saying.

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Posted a pic in the setup thread:

Last week I set up a Palace 8.3 with V8s, pretty random combo.

It’s the weird shape thats about 32 long with a 14.81 wheelbase and short, stubby kicks. Would feel ridiculous on most trucks but actually works well with V8s.

Rough math: V8s reduce wheelbase by about 0.6, so this setup rides more like a 32 board with a ~14.2 wheelbase on cast Ventures — an oddly hard combo to find.

Most 8.3-8.5 boards with a 14.2-14.25 wheelbase tend to be shorter than 32, and you usually have to go up to 14.38 to get more length.

Weirdly, this shape/truck combo is hard to replicate with normal Ventures and another board. Pop feels really nice—springy without being too light or too heavy. My issue with V8s on most boards is that they make the pop feel a bit weak, but that’s not a problem here.

It definitely feels smaller and more nimble than my usual setup on cast Ventures. Visually, the bolts being so far apart is a bit jarring. I often have my front foot over two of the four front bolts for certain tricks (noseslides, crooks, 180 nosegrinds), but on this setup, I have to remember to place my foot further back — otherwise theyre basically right over the front wheels.

The kicks still feel stubby when standing on them, but the pop is great because of the v8s, so it’s more of a difference in feel than function. I do have to pop more off the tip instead of keeping my back foot near the bolts like I would on many more normal setups.

Overall, it's a fun setup. Makes flatground easier and has a nice, snappy pop. Biggest downside is the super tapered kicks. Gotta be more precise on grinds/slides so my size 13 feet don’t drag. If the shape was just a bit fuller or widened to 8.5, it’d be even better.

And as a bbs loyalist, dwindle wood is actually pretty good

oh! dang, glad this one worked out. dope write-up. short tails/noses feel correct for me, as far as pop goes. 

[Fifty8mm]

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Posted a pic in the setup thread:

Last week I set up a Palace 8.3 with V8s, pretty random combo.

It’s the weird shape thats about 32 long with a 14.81 wheelbase and short, stubby kicks. Would feel ridiculous on most trucks but actually works well with V8s.

Rough math: V8s reduce wheelbase by about 0.6, so this setup rides more like a 32 board with a ~14.2 wheelbase on cast Ventures — an oddly hard combo to find.

Most 8.3-8.5 boards with a 14.2-14.25 wheelbase tend to be shorter than 32, and you usually have to go up to 14.38 to get more length.

Weirdly, this shape/truck combo is hard to replicate with normal Ventures and another board. Pop feels really nice—springy without being too light or too heavy. My issue with V8s on most boards is that they make the pop feel a bit weak, but that’s not a problem here.

It definitely feels smaller and more nimble than my usual setup on cast Ventures. Visually, the bolts being so far apart is a bit jarring. I often have my front foot over two of the four front bolts for certain tricks (noseslides, crooks, 180 nosegrinds), but on this setup, I have to remember to place my foot further back — otherwise theyre basically right over the front wheels.

The kicks still feel stubby when standing on them, but the pop is great because of the v8s, so it’s more of a difference in feel than function. I do have to pop more off the tip instead of keeping my back foot near the bolts like I would on many more normal setups.

Overall, it's a fun setup. Makes flatground easier and has a nice, snappy pop. Biggest downside is the super tapered kicks. Gotta be more precise on grinds/slides so my size 13 feet don’t drag. If the shape was just a bit fuller or widened to 8.5, it’d be even better.

And as a bbs loyalist, dwindle wood is actually pretty good

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oh! dang, glad this one worked out. dope write-up. short tails/noses feel correct for me, as far as pop goes.

Had this exact shape, Chewy Cannon bluprint tribute graphic, only board i couldn't get used to. When i did get my pop i would pop higher than any other board I've had but my consistency suffered a lot.

Gave to a homie and he said "its a weird but good" he rode indys. I skated the board with standard ventures * correction*

[Bristol_Palin]

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i feel like we can unanimously agree that
bobby worrest has the best venture part of the 2020s

who would be the runner ups?

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Was Roger Krebs part in 2020?
That shit makes me want to skate. So that one as a runner up.

Roger Krebs venture sf minute was 2019 but that part played a factor in me switching to venture. It’s short and sweet with good music. I rewatch that part a ton.

[Unkle Fleak]

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i feel like we can unanimously agree that
bobby worrest has the best venture part of the 2020s

who would be the runner ups?

[close]

Nick Matthews Uprise

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probably… but other acceptable answers include:



or


(even tho 2016)

or


(even tho 2017)

Wasn’t there a killer venture X hardbody. If not I dreamt it and it’s GOTTA happen

[tzhangdox]

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Posted a pic in the setup thread:

Last week I set up a Palace 8.3 with V8s, pretty random combo.

It’s the weird shape thats about 32 long with a 14.81 wheelbase and short, stubby kicks. Would feel ridiculous on most trucks but actually works well with V8s.

Rough math: V8s reduce wheelbase by about 0.6, so this setup rides more like a 32 board with a ~14.2 wheelbase on cast Ventures — an oddly hard combo to find.

Most 8.3-8.5 boards with a 14.2-14.25 wheelbase tend to be shorter than 32, and you usually have to go up to 14.38 to get more length.

Weirdly, this shape/truck combo is hard to replicate with normal Ventures and another board. Pop feels really nice—springy without being too light or too heavy. My issue with V8s on most boards is that they make the pop feel a bit weak, but that’s not a problem here.

It definitely feels smaller and more nimble than my usual setup on cast Ventures. Visually, the bolts being so far apart is a bit jarring. I often have my front foot over two of the four front bolts for certain tricks (noseslides, crooks, 180 nosegrinds), but on this setup, I have to remember to place my foot further back — otherwise theyre basically right over the front wheels.

The kicks still feel stubby when standing on them, but the pop is great because of the v8s, so it’s more of a difference in feel than function. I do have to pop more off the tip instead of keeping my back foot near the bolts like I would on many more normal setups.

Overall, it's a fun setup. Makes flatground easier and has a nice, snappy pop. Biggest downside is the super tapered kicks. Gotta be more precise on grinds/slides so my size 13 feet don’t drag. If the shape was just a bit fuller or widened to 8.5, it’d be even better.

And as a bbs loyalist, dwindle wood is actually pretty good

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oh! dang, glad this one worked out. dope write-up. short tails/noses feel correct for me, as far as pop goes.

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Had this exact shape, Chewy Cannon bluprint tribute graphic, only board i couldn't get used to. When i did get my pop i would pop higher than any other board I've had but my consistency suffered a lot.

Gave to a homie and he said "its a weird but good" he rode indys. I skated the board with standard indys.

Yeah the kicks are so stubby and the wheelbase is so long, I couldn't imagine this on anything other than venture v8s. But with that combo it works and is quite fun for some things, though still a wacky setup overall and has its quirks

[Fifty8mm]

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Posted a pic in the setup thread:

Last week I set up a Palace 8.3 with V8s, pretty random combo.

It’s the weird shape thats about 32 long with a 14.81 wheelbase and short, stubby kicks. Would feel ridiculous on most trucks but actually works well with V8s.

Rough math: V8s reduce wheelbase by about 0.6, so this setup rides more like a 32 board with a ~14.2 wheelbase on cast Ventures — an oddly hard combo to find.

Most 8.3-8.5 boards with a 14.2-14.25 wheelbase tend to be shorter than 32, and you usually have to go up to 14.38 to get more length.

Weirdly, this shape/truck combo is hard to replicate with normal Ventures and another board. Pop feels really nice—springy without being too light or too heavy. My issue with V8s on most boards is that they make the pop feel a bit weak, but that’s not a problem here.

It definitely feels smaller and more nimble than my usual setup on cast Ventures. Visually, the bolts being so far apart is a bit jarring. I often have my front foot over two of the four front bolts for certain tricks (noseslides, crooks, 180 nosegrinds), but on this setup, I have to remember to place my foot further back — otherwise theyre basically right over the front wheels.

The kicks still feel stubby when standing on them, but the pop is great because of the v8s, so it’s more of a difference in feel than function. I do have to pop more off the tip instead of keeping my back foot near the bolts like I would on many more normal setups.

Overall, it's a fun setup. Makes flatground easier and has a nice, snappy pop. Biggest downside is the super tapered kicks. Gotta be more precise on grinds/slides so my size 13 feet don’t drag. If the shape was just a bit fuller or widened to 8.5, it’d be even better.

And as a bbs loyalist, dwindle wood is actually pretty good

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oh! dang, glad this one worked out. dope write-up. short tails/noses feel correct for me, as far as pop goes.

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Had this exact shape, Chewy Cannon bluprint tribute graphic, only board i couldn't get used to. When i did get my pop i would pop higher than any other board I've had but my consistency suffered a lot.

Gave to a homie and he said "its a weird but good" he rode indys. I skated the board with standard indys.

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Yeah the kicks are so stubby and the wheelbase is so long, I couldn't imagine this on anything other than venture v8s. But with that combo it works and is quite fun for some things, though still a wacky setup overall and has its quirks

makes sense. I meant to say i skated the board with venture standards it was bad lol V8s make sense on this. Kyle Wilson skates this shape or skated this shape with thunders but dudes pop is superhuman.

[tzhangdox]

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Posted a pic in the setup thread:

Last week I set up a Palace 8.3 with V8s, pretty random combo.

It’s the weird shape thats about 32 long with a 14.81 wheelbase and short, stubby kicks. Would feel ridiculous on most trucks but actually works well with V8s.

Rough math: V8s reduce wheelbase by about 0.6, so this setup rides more like a 32 board with a ~14.2 wheelbase on cast Ventures — an oddly hard combo to find.

Most 8.3-8.5 boards with a 14.2-14.25 wheelbase tend to be shorter than 32, and you usually have to go up to 14.38 to get more length.

Weirdly, this shape/truck combo is hard to replicate with normal Ventures and another board. Pop feels really nice—springy without being too light or too heavy. My issue with V8s on most boards is that they make the pop feel a bit weak, but that’s not a problem here.

It definitely feels smaller and more nimble than my usual setup on cast Ventures. Visually, the bolts being so far apart is a bit jarring. I often have my front foot over two of the four front bolts for certain tricks (noseslides, crooks, 180 nosegrinds), but on this setup, I have to remember to place my foot further back — otherwise theyre basically right over the front wheels.

The kicks still feel stubby when standing on them, but the pop is great because of the v8s, so it’s more of a difference in feel than function. I do have to pop more off the tip instead of keeping my back foot near the bolts like I would on many more normal setups.

Overall, it's a fun setup. Makes flatground easier and has a nice, snappy pop. Biggest downside is the super tapered kicks. Gotta be more precise on grinds/slides so my size 13 feet don’t drag. If the shape was just a bit fuller or widened to 8.5, it’d be even better.

And as a bbs loyalist, dwindle wood is actually pretty good

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oh! dang, glad this one worked out. dope write-up. short tails/noses feel correct for me, as far as pop goes.

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Had this exact shape, Chewy Cannon bluprint tribute graphic, only board i couldn't get used to. When i did get my pop i would pop higher than any other board I've had but my consistency suffered a lot.

Gave to a homie and he said "its a weird but good" he rode indys. I skated the board with standard indys.

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Yeah the kicks are so stubby and the wheelbase is so long, I couldn't imagine this on anything other than venture v8s. But with that combo it works and is quite fun for some things, though still a wacky setup overall and has its quirks

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makes sense. I meant to say i skated the board with venture standards it was bad lol V8s make sense on this. Kyle Wilson skates this shape or skated this shape with thunders but dudes pop is superhuman.

I think if you're naturally really springy and can casually jump high enough to actually make use of the yield that such a long wb + short tail gives you, then it would be good. But otherwise, yeah needed the v8s to make it effectively normal proportions

[MxsDx]

A V8 promo with Koston popped up on my feed yesterday. Funny enough, he wasn’t even skating the V8s. Looks like forged hollows (standard hole pattern). Am I the only nerd that screen shots setups?

[BeachChicken]

You are not because I did the same thing once and noticed the same thing. Also that Jordan Trahan took off his lows and risers right after that Ace Lo part and that lots of Venture riders are recently off the team and back on Indy. The worst I got was trying to figure out if Tyler Surrey skates cast or forged indys.

excuse me while i go rot in weirdo hell