Venture 2020

[LakeHouse]

Looks like they add +3.43ish to wheelbase

I cannot remember if these were the super light lows or regular/high super lights.

Between 1992-2001ish I only skated Ventures. Switched to Indy right after that, mostly because of availability at my local. Out of my skate group I was the only one on Vents, majority were on Indy, the rest were split between GKs and Destructo, minus 1 other on Tensors or Royals.

Last week I switched back to Venture V-Hollows after being on Indy forever. I usually skate dlx 8.06-8.25s with the 14.25/.38 wb, Indy TI 144 or 149, Spit classic 53mm. I decided to give a Crail twin g069 shape a try. The Indy’s felt like absolute shit because of the short wb and longer kicks. This shape with the V Hollow 5.8 worked great for me, might be my new go to setup. Only mod to the trucks was switched the bushings out to Bones mediums, nut flush to king pin tightness and seriously have now issues  turning at all - which other threads gave me some worry that these wouldn’t turn at all.

[rocklobster]

Humor my madness here: back on Venture after being on Indy throughout Winter, didn't get many sessions in so I couldn't be bothered to swap them out. Didn't like the twitch of Indy but they did grind much smoother and faster. On my regular ledge with metal coping I was sticking a lot more on regular 50-50s with Ventures, even after buttering up the ledge. I was even getting pitched off on some attempts if I didn't turn off the grind early.

I have a couple of theories:
1. My hanger is starting to crack and bit of metal above the kingpin have broken off with parts of the TI hanger exposed. I doubt its the exposed hanger that's impacting the grind because 50-50s are usually locks against the heel / toe side of the wheel.
2. The Ace Low bushings I has on were mushed out and swapped to Indy mediums. They look and feel taller than the stock Venture or aftermarket Ace bushings. Are they pushing the kingpin closer to the hanger resulting in more contact with the ledge?
3. The alloy used in Venture is just harder than Indys. My bro-science brain says yes having ridden both in the past, but this much harder and slower on the grind?

My inkling is #2, either I swap back to stock or lower bushings or do some slappys to smooth out the kingpin.
Still interested to hear opinions.

[Obijuan91]

Humor my madness here: back on Venture after being on Indy throughout Winter, didn't get many sessions in so I couldn't be bothered to swap them out. Didn't like the twitch of Indy but they did grind much smoother and faster. On my regular ledge with metal coping I was sticking a lot more on regular 50-50s with Ventures, even after buttering up the ledge. I was even getting pitched off on some attempts if I didn't turn off the grind early.

I have a couple of theories:
1. My hanger is starting to crack and bit of metal above the kingpin have broken off with parts of the TI hanger exposed. I doubt its the exposed hanger that's impacting the grind because 50-50s are usually locks against the heel / toe side of the wheel.
2. The Ace Low bushings I has on were mushed out and swapped to Indy mediums. They look and feel taller than the stock Venture or aftermarket Ace bushings. Are they pushing the kingpin closer to the hanger resulting in more contact with the ledge?
3. The alloy used in Venture is just harder than Indys. My bro-science brain says yes having ridden both in the past, but this much harder and slower on the grind?

My inkling is #2, either I swap back to stock or lower bushings or do some slappys to smooth out the kingpin.
Still interested to hear opinions.

Exposed hanger grinds slower on coping

[j....soy.....]

This has come up before, my theory is ventures are just harder..I say this thinking of the earlier Aces being softer and noticeably grinding way better.  What I found weird though is thunders which I assumed were the same foundry grinded better.  I’ve talked to Ben D on this and he agrees they grinded differently but went to the factory in Mexico and saw same facility, he assumes same metal. 

So the shape?  That’s the best we could surmise…I don’t even think it’s the KP…

[Fifty8mm]

This has come up before, my theory is ventures are just harder..I say this thinking of the earlier Aces being softer and noticeably grinding way better.  What I found weird though is thunders which I assumed were the same foundry grinded better.  I’ve talked to Ben D on this and he agrees they grinded differently but went to the factory in Mexico and saw same facility, he assumes same metal. 

So the shape?  That’s the best we could surmise…I don’t even think it’s the KP…

Totally the shape. Thunders are rounded and ventures have the sharp wings which catch more junk.

[Dj Paul]

I been riding in thunders like 20 years but just tried some Ventures Tanner Burzinski pro models and Im struggling.


 can someone give me some tips to I can get more comfortable on my board?

[Slave IV]

I been riding in thunders like 20 years but just tried some Ventures Tanner Burzinski pro models and Im struggling.


 can someone give me some tips to I can get more comfortable on my board?

Try adjusting your foot placement. Maybe minutely shift towards the tip of your kicks when popping.

[Dj Paul]

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I been riding in thunders like 20 years but just tried some Ventures Tanner Burzinski pro models and Im struggling.


 can someone give me some tips to I can get more comfortable on my board?

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Try adjusting your foot placement. Maybe minutely shift towards the tip of your kicks when popping.

Thank you. I will try to replace my front foot on kick flips the truck that im feeling more difference.

[Thebird]

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I been riding in thunders like 20 years but just tried some Ventures Tanner Burzinski pro models and Im struggling.


 can someone give me some tips to I can get more comfortable on my board?

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Try adjusting your foot placement. Maybe minutely shift towards the tip of your kicks when popping.

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Thank you. I will try to replace my front foot on kick flips the truck that im feeling more difference.

You may just need to adjust your timing slightly.  That tail was hitting a split second sooner on Thunders.  20 years is a long time for that muscle memory to build.  You'll get it though.

[Dj Paul]

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I been riding in thunders like 20 years but just tried some Ventures Tanner Burzinski pro models and Im struggling.


 can someone give me some tips to I can get more comfortable on my board?

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Try adjusting your foot placement. Maybe minutely shift towards the tip of your kicks when popping.

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Thank you. I will try to replace my front foot on kick flips the truck that im feeling more difference.

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You may just need to adjust your timing slightly.  That tail was hitting a split second sooner on Thunders.  20 years is a long time for that muscle memory to build.  You'll get it though.

My flip tricks was like automatic with thunders, now I get some tic tacs landing tricks. But its only two weeks with new set up.

[Unkle Fleak]

Think they’ll ever be a V8 v hollow? I really like the idea of having hollow kingpins and axles and an adjustable wheelbase

[Mbrimson88]

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I been riding in thunders like 20 years but just tried some Ventures Tanner Burzinski pro models and Im struggling.


 can someone give me some tips to I can get more comfortable on my board?

[close]

Try adjusting your foot placement. Maybe minutely shift towards the tip of your kicks when popping.

[close]

Thank you. I will try to replace my front foot on kick flips the truck that im feeling more difference.

[close]

You may just need to adjust your timing slightly.  That tail was hitting a split second sooner on Thunders.  20 years is a long time for that muscle memory to build.  You'll get it though.

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My flip tricks was like automatic with thunders, now I get some tic tacs landing tricks. But its only two weeks with new set up.

Do you always skate the same board, eg same size / shape or similar?

Sometimes changing from what you usually have and going for shorter wheelbase / longer kicks has worked for some people when they change from anything else to Venture trucks.

As others have said though, it can take some time to adjust to Venture trucks, in particular the difference in the position of the axle to the rest of the setup, as Ventures are the longest wheelbase truck out there, which can make a lot of things somewhat harder to do.


I have a set of Ventures on an 8.25 x 31.9 with 14.0 wb and the axles still sit out further than Thunders on an 8.25 x 31.95 with 14.25 wb, when I have them side by side.


Edit:  I just saw your Setup thread board and thought to mention the forged baseplates push the wheelbase out even more, but at least being lower it is a quicker pop - 52 mm in height.

[Mbrimson88]

Think they’ll ever be a V8 v hollow? I really like the idea of having hollow kingpins and axles and an adjustable wheelbase

I haven't seen any indication that they are going to make more options, other than the regular team versions that they have out now and the occasional pro versions, but that doesn't mean it can't happen.

A lot more people have been drilling their own and I find that actually works pretty well as you can adjust them to be how ever far or close you want them, but I could be a bit more weird than most in that regard.

I guess too that some people just don't have access to tools or the know how to do it either, so being able to buy anything that is pre drilled can be a big bonus.

[hiljentaa]

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Think they’ll ever be a V8 v hollow? I really like the idea of having hollow kingpins and axles and an adjustable wheelbase

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I haven't seen any indication that they are going to make more options, other than the regular team versions that they have out now and the occasional pro versions, but that doesn't mean it can't happen.

A lot more people have been drilling their own and I find that actually works pretty well as you can adjust them to be how ever far or close you want them, but I could be a bit more weird than most in that regard.

I guess too that some people just don't have access to tools or the know how to do it either, so being able to buy anything that is pre drilled can be a big bonus.

I'm hoping they'll do a forged V8. I could see it being a Nikolai pro truck.

[Chalupa]

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Think they’ll ever be a V8 v hollow? I really like the idea of having hollow kingpins and axles and an adjustable wheelbase

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I haven't seen any indication that they are going to make more options, other than the regular team versions that they have out now and the occasional pro versions, but that doesn't mean it can't happen.

A lot more people have been drilling their own and I find that actually works pretty well as you can adjust them to be how ever far or close you want them, but I could be a bit more weird than most in that regard.

I guess too that some people just don't have access to tools or the know how to do it either, so being able to buy anything that is pre drilled can be a big bonus.

The Venture IG liked comments asking for V8 Hollows, so there might be some in an upcoming drop. It was definitely on a post with the Bobby Worrest trucks, but I can’t remember the other ones.

The Thunder IG liked comments asking for the T-II in bigger sizes, and they eventually pinned their comment about bigger sizes, hollows, and aftermarket bushings on a post.

We’ll just have to wait and see. The Chems Tool is also an option for people who don’t want to drill into baseplates. Alternatively, anyone who doesn’t want to wait on the possibility could put V-Hollow hangars on V8 baseplates and then put the regular hangars from the V8s on a forged baseplate to use on decks with shorter wheelbases.

[j....soy.....]

You guys just keep screaming into the clouds while I’ll quietly skate whatever pro runs a hollow hanger… two sets of Kaders to finally upgrade to a chandler burtons…..

Put the solid on the forged plates and gave away a Christmas complete to my nephew…

On getting used to Ventures…I put my feel in the pockets more, loosen them up and my cure all….buy a t-shirt.

[Murge]

I’m not sure if we are  allowed  to talk about the atalogca that was eakedla  but I’m pretty sure hollow v8s may or may not have been in there for fall if I remember correctly.  If I said too much let me know and I’ll delete this post.

[Pastasash]

I’m not sure if we are  allowed  to talk about the atalogca that was eakedla  but I’m pretty sure hollow v8s may or may not have been in there for fall if I remember correctly.  If I said too much let me know and I’ll delete this post.

I was waiting for someone to leak some lookbook secrets, very exciting. Can I go crazy and put it out there that they should do a inverted KP V8s on some hollows or v-lights??

[Mbrimson88]

The Venture IG liked comments asking for V8 Hollows, so there might be some in an upcoming drop. It was definitely on a post with the Bobby Worrest trucks, but I can’t remember the other ones.

The Thunder IG liked comments asking for the T-II in bigger sizes, and they eventually pinned their comment about bigger sizes, hollows, and aftermarket bushings on a post.

We’ll just have to wait and see. The Chems Tool is also an option for people who don’t want to drill into baseplates. Alternatively, anyone who doesn’t want to wait on the possibility could put V-Hollow hangars on V8 baseplates and then put the regular hangars from the V8s on a forged baseplate to use on decks with shorter wheelbases.

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I’m not sure if we are  allowed  to talk about the atalogca that was eakedla  but I’m pretty sure hollow v8s may or may not have been in there for fall if I remember correctly.  If I said too much let me know and I’ll delete this post.

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I was waiting for someone to leak some lookbook secrets, very exciting. Can I go crazy and put it out there that they should do a inverted KP V8s on some hollows or v-lights??

Ha yeah, I guess never say never could apply here.

Thinking about it though, I don't really recall half as many people saying they needed an inverted Venture truck, compared to some of the other brands.

Thunder I would always hit kingpins on smith tricks, some other brands too, but Venture seem to have that kingpin quite nicely tucked in there, or it just doesn't get in the way as much as it might.


A couple of posts with inverted Ventures...


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108614.msg3421757#msg3421757


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108614.msg3453437#msg3453437

[rikki]

The current V8s are heavy as shit. Would probably buy hollow V8s.

What's more, they could upgrade the V8 baseplate holes to accommodate for a bit slighter change in wb. The current (measured) 5/16 inches per truck is too much, especially as they advertise the difference as being 1/4. The holes could be closer to each other without the risk of sacrificing durability.

[MonsPubis]

The current V8s are heavy as shit. Would probably buy hollow V8s.

What's more, they could upgrade the V8 baseplate holes to accommodate for a bit slighter change in wb. The current (measured) 5/16 inches per truck is too much, especially as they advertise the difference as being 1/4. The holes could be closer to each other without the risk of sacrificing durability.

Maybe the forged baseplates will push the wb out slightly more, like they do on the regular ones. I was told they drop in July

[CliffKaufman]

The current V8s are heavy as shit. Would probably buy hollow V8s.

What's more, they could upgrade the V8 baseplate holes to accommodate for a bit slighter change in wb. The current (measured) 5/16 inches per truck is too much, especially as they advertise the difference as being 1/4. The holes could be closer to each other without the risk of sacrificing durability.

I'm really enjoying my V8s in short wb mode. Was initially worried it would feel too squirrely and also make the kicks too long. Haven't had issues on 3 different decks.

[Unkle Fleak]

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The current V8s are heavy as shit. Would probably buy hollow V8s.

What's more, they could upgrade the V8 baseplate holes to accommodate for a bit slighter change in wb. The current (measured) 5/16 inches per truck is too much, especially as they advertise the difference as being 1/4. The holes could be closer to each other without the risk of sacrificing durability.

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I'm really enjoying my V8s in short wb mode. Was initially worried it would feel too squirrely and also make the kicks too long. Haven't had issues on 3 different decks.

I know it’s so glorious

[Mbrimson88]

The current V8s are heavy as shit. Would probably buy hollow V8s.

What's more, they could upgrade the V8 baseplate holes to accommodate for a bit slighter change in wb. The current (measured) 5/16 inches per truck is too much, especially as they advertise the difference as being 1/4. The holes could be closer to each other without the risk of sacrificing durability.

I found the ideal position for me was almost right in the middle of the two V8 hole positions, so I made my own - someone who knows what they are doing filled in the holes on a set of baseplates and I drilled them out myself.  That doesn't help everyone else really, but having a "Thunder hole baseplate" option on some other brands like Venture, Indy, etc would really make some trucks on some boards feel way better.  Even just 3 mm in from where they are, so not exactly right in the middle, just in a bit more, which would then help stop deck bolts from getting hit on some brands too.

That's all just me experimenting with old baseplates and different boards too, so it would be way harder for a brand to actually have a sliding scale of where their bolt holes are, or so much harder to ensure accuracy if they had a DIY baseplate holes, in the same way that you can buy an uncut blank deck and do the whole thing yourself.


* And yes, having the V8 holes a bit closer together would still work very easily.

[rocklobster]

I'm worried my 5.8 TIs could be in trouble - chunks of the hanger has started cracking off and the axles threads are starting to get worn at weird angles. The latter usually isn't a problem with a rethreader but I doubt it will work on the titanium axle.

Anyone had luck rethreading a titanium axle? Or do i just need to brute force the nut on so the titanium hanger cuts into the nylock and nut?

[Mbrimson88]

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People like looking at old stuff and I am no exception.

I just saw this Venture truck from the 1980s, on an ebay listing.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/396892361260

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/396892361260


Just looking at all the pics, this one stands out to me, mainly because I have been riding the Thunder T-II trucks and the hanger looks so very similar.

Interesting to see all the same though.

[rob]

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People like looking at old stuff and I am no exception.

I just saw this Venture truck from the 1980s, on an ebay listing.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/396892361260

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/396892361260


Just looking at all the pics, this one stands out to me, mainly because I have been riding the Thunder T-II trucks and the hanger looks so very similar.

Interesting to see all the same though.

Crazy they do look like t2’s beside the baseplate holes position

[Unkle Fleak]

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People like looking at old stuff and I am no exception.

I just saw this Venture truck from the 1980s, on an ebay listing.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/396892361260

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/396892361260


Just looking at all the pics, this one stands out to me, mainly because I have been riding the Thunder T-II trucks and the hanger looks so very similar.

Interesting to see all the same though.

[close]

Crazy they do look like t2’s beside the baseplate holes position

The first time I seen ventures I think they had a T shaped hanger like an Indy stage 1-3. Setting this stage of venture rn makes me think. This truck should be painted blue to truly capture the era. Correct me if I’m wrong but I picture mark and John and all those guys riding blue ones

[Stanley Spadowski]

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People like looking at old stuff and I am no exception.

I just saw this Venture truck from the 1980s, on an ebay listing.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/396892361260

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/396892361260


Just looking at all the pics, this one stands out to me, mainly because I have been riding the Thunder T-II trucks and the hanger looks so very similar.

Interesting to see all the same though.

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Crazy they do look like t2’s beside the baseplate holes position

T-2’s are just a updated version of 1980’s thunders

[dubee]

i am really skating better on my venture 5.2 vs. my thunder 147..............i don't have to worry about wheelbite........