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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #510 on: June 29, 2021, 07:22:01 PM »
If anyone is wanted just the Hex button style inverted kingpins, skate warehouse and several other retailers are now selling them solo. Just be aware that the thread on them is very shallow so theyíre not for tight trucks or big boys.

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Krux_DLK_K5_Kingpin_Set/descpage-KXDLK5KP.html


Do they look the same as the Indy kingpins?

I have only seen pics and they really do look very similar, but thought someone had said they are shorter.

At least that is another cheap and easily accessible option if the Indy kingpin blows out or has issues.



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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #511 on: June 29, 2021, 10:29:32 PM »
Based on pics alone they look the same to me.

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #512 on: June 30, 2021, 03:34:19 AM »
Based on pics alone they look the same to me.

That's what I was thinking, but I can never really tell with just pictures to go by.

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #513 on: June 30, 2021, 05:53:48 AM »
Got kicked down a set of mid 159ís but they altered their baseplates to the 6 holes.

I like them so far and havenít had any problems with them, when someone cannibalizes a set of trucks a set of Indyís but different combinations does it really affect the turning radius?
L mid 159ís R standard stage 11ís 149ís
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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #514 on: June 30, 2021, 06:32:51 AM »
So i finally got around to trying these out. I traded my backup pair of Ace 44 to a pal for a set of 144 mindys and I have to say that they exceeded my expectations but only because they were extremely low to begin with and only after I tweaked them a bit.

They're noisy as hell, even after lubricating the pivot cups, bushing seats, and washers. It silences them temporarily but the squeak comes back after a little.

They're heavy on the scale but I didn't really notice it when skating them. This may have been because I tried them out on a fairly steep deck (at least by my standards), the Scumco KT "dukes" 8.25. The fact its PS stix wood which has a very light and snappy pop feel probably helped nullify the weight as well. They really didn't feel significantly heavier than the trucks I previously had on the deck (Film 5.5 hollow) despite being like 50g heavier.

Turn was acceptable but not great. They don't turn as well as traditional kingpin indys and I did run into wheelbite issues with anything over 53mm. I ended up switching over to 94a aftermarket indy bushings which helped but didn't totally eliminate the problem. I don't have a ton of experience with inverted kingpins so I'm not sure if the worse turn is normal or not but I definitely noticed it with the mindys.

Grind felt a little weird too, a bit sticky. Adding a little bit of wax to the hanger helped but like the squeak issue its a temporary fix and I had to reapply it after a half dozen or so slappies.

Overall they're kind of a wet fart. I would say that unless you're some kind of smith/feeble specialist there's really no reason to get these over hollows. Forged plate indys are almost the same height but are lighter and turn better.

I ended up just swapping the baseplates with a set of 139 forged hollows and I like them much better that way. I wish they had just started making the lows again, maybe with a 144 option.

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #515 on: June 30, 2021, 02:28:56 PM »
Got kicked down a set of mid 159ís but they altered their baseplates to the 6 holes.

I like them so far and havenít had any problems with them, when someone cannibalizes a set of trucks a set of Indyís but different combinations does it really affect the turning radius?

L mid 159ís R standard stage 11ís 149ís

I have mixed and matched - swapped over hangers / baseplates to check and they all still work the same way, just a little different as I often go half by eye as to the threads showing on the kingpin, which you cannot do on inverted kingpins, but mid hangers will also work on standard baseplates.

That setup reminds me of older stage Indy trucks with zero kingpin clearance as it sits right on the hanger when new, so I am curious - how is the kingpin clearance on those?


A post here from another guy who put inverted baseplates on with normal hangers (so the opposite of what you have) if you are interested:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=97297.msg3591144#msg3591144
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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #516 on: June 30, 2021, 08:11:16 PM »

i swapped the hangers/baseplates on a set of 144 mids and 144 forged hollows.
the mid hanger on the forged baseplate brought them down to 50-ish mm
kingpin clearance was horrible. swapped them back.
the 144 forged hollows are on my main setup. the 144 mids are on my symmetrical egg

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
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The first thing I noticed was the inverted kingpin itself doesn't have a particularly long thread, so I tightened these down as far as they would go, which wasn't that much with the truck still feeling fairly loose overall.

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Does anyone know What can I use to thread the kingpin a little further so I can actually tighten these things? i have that ace kingpin rethreader? Would that work?
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Or get low top bushings/shave down the tops.
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It is the opposite, as in same as I felt, so I need to get the kingpin down into the baseplate further than the stock Indy IKP will go, so cutting bushings down only loosen them up, not get the kingpin lower.  If I used my lower bushings, the kingpin head would still sit up too high, only making the trucks even looser than needed.

Maybe you had said (or someone else) to use other brand IKP that have longer threads on them, which I have seen and would definitely work, maybe Krux down low or other brand.

The old generic / unknown brand inverted kingpin that I have floating around definitely gets things much lower into the baseplate without going too low, so about another 5 mm of thread on that kingpin would be perfect without it going too far in and digging into the wood of the deck.

Sorry not trying to be Mr know it all, just trying to explain.

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I would also recommend getting harder bushings. The black Indy aftermarket bushings would get them a little tighter than stock