9-Year-Old Trae ”The Tank” Montgomery Ollies A 20. But What's Up With His Dad?

[Cellular]

uh what do i say lmao

[Dwyck]

The skate conspiracy that you won't be able to walk at an older age because of jumping down stuff when your a pre-teen is not true. It's actually better to do that shit at that age. If a kid broke a growth plate then there would be problems.

"not walk," sure, but "put your body out of commission for skateboarding before age 40" happens to a ton of people

[Watitdo]

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Yup clowns I know many that have blown out their knees and torn ACL, MCL, twice on both knees, rehabilitated and are ripping now.

You are claiming that 5-12 year olds jumping down 10 stairs will end up in a wheelchair and claiming that's child abuse are fucking major kooks.

Also claiming that today's pros didn't hit big gaps when they were pre-teens and need assistance walking is major bullshit. There is not one pro in the history of pro skating walking with a cane because of a pre-teen stair set or gap injury. That would mean they went through their whole pro career using a fucking cane and could say it came from this specific session when I was 7 ollieing a 10 stair lmao.

Ask a medical expert about pre-teens and their bones, unless you are scared to.

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Are you 15? Lol.

I'm telling you straight up my friend, I know former pros and many other skaters who can't skate anymore because they focussed on doing big shit when they were younger. You seem to be really hung up on the age when injuries happen, while I'm talking about the long term effects of this type of skating in general. Trae seems to be into huge drops. If he continues on that path for much longer, he will be feeling it for the rest of his life, trust me. I barely fucked with gaps and rails and at 43 my body is a painful wreck, but I can still skate because I kept it more low impact most of the time.

But yeah - hit us with links to these rippers who blew both knees twice and are still ripping on the same level. Love to see it. That's inspiring. Something tells me you made that up though.

Damn dude you're a headache...You are acknowledging I'm specifically talking about a certain age range when you're being general about big gap skating. There is no need to argue when talking about two different things, and you know we are?!? Jeeze.

It is cringy as fuck to watch a 6 year old scorpion down a 15 stair, so I reached out to someone in children medicine. Once I learned it's not as big of a deal as slap makes it out to be, it's no big deal to watch the footy now, for me. I've got little huckers in my area so I was definitely curious instead of jumping to the conclusion without any medical advice.

I also don't argue pounding my chest like you weirdos. So if you want to debate and not argue like a jock asshole, present some medical info on children skating high impact terrain. I'm told if they break a growth plate there will be problems, otherwise it's better at that age than when you're older. But if there's medical advice to wait to hit massive shit til you're x years old because of your bones then I'm interested. If it's just they gotta wait til they're more well rounded skaters then this debate is corny as fuck lol. I'm not scouting any fucking 9 year olds lmao.

As for the thread, I'm not that interested in Trae's skating compared to the rest of y'all. But I guess I would like people to understand in general groms hitting big gaps or ramps is no big deal other than amazing how young they are.

I'm having a brain fart on pros/ams who came back from knee surgery. That would be a good thread. I also can't think of anyone personally that absolutely can't skateboard after years of skating and injuries. Which I'm completely fine with your experience in life with "who you know" is different than mine lol.

[WobbleHeadBob]

the arguement about gaps being damaging is kinda stupid - like, obviously jumping down big shit repeatedly isnt gonna be great for you long term BUT its not as bad as some people are making out. this kid is most likely not gonna be in a wheelchair when he is 40 - look at Jaws hes 30 now and still doing stupidly high drops.

Jamie Thomas, Andrew Reynolds, Rowley .. plenty skaters who were integral to the stair/rail era who are still skating at a high level

I think a lot of it comes down to luck (or possibly genetics) - I have a freind who is the same age as me - he never skated, or really did anything that would be considered physically damaging yet he is fucked, he complains about knee pain like a retired carpet fitter - some peoples bodies are just less sturdy than others, its pot luck imo

only time will tell for this little guy

[Glurmpz]

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Yup clowns I know many that have blown out their knees and torn ACL, MCL, twice on both knees, rehabilitated and are ripping now.

You are claiming that 5-12 year olds jumping down 10 stairs will end up in a wheelchair and claiming that's child abuse are fucking major kooks.

Also claiming that today's pros didn't hit big gaps when they were pre-teens and need assistance walking is major bullshit. There is not one pro in the history of pro skating walking with a cane because of a pre-teen stair set or gap injury. That would mean they went through their whole pro career using a fucking cane and could say it came from this specific session when I was 7 ollieing a 10 stair lmao.

Ask a medical expert about pre-teens and their bones, unless you are scared to.

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Are you 15? Lol.

I'm telling you straight up my friend, I know former pros and many other skaters who can't skate anymore because they focussed on doing big shit when they were younger. You seem to be really hung up on the age when injuries happen, while I'm talking about the long term effects of this type of skating in general. Trae seems to be into huge drops. If he continues on that path for much longer, he will be feeling it for the rest of his life, trust me. I barely fucked with gaps and rails and at 43 my body is a painful wreck, but I can still skate because I kept it more low impact most of the time.

But yeah - hit us with links to these rippers who blew both knees twice and are still ripping on the same level. Love to see it. That's inspiring. Something tells me you made that up though.

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Damn dude you're a headache...You are acknowledging I'm specifically talking about a certain age range when you're being general about big gap skating. There is no need to argue when talking about two different things, and you know we are?!? Jeeze.

I'm having a brain fart on pros/ams who came back from knee surgery.  I also can't think of anyone personally that absolutely can't skateboard after years of skating and injuries. Which I'm completely fine with your experience in life with "who you know" is different than mine lol.

I knew you made that shit up. 

[bigdave]

This is -all- I've ever heard about this guy. It's all going to catch up to him sooner or later. Fuck this douchebag. Get on a skateboard with yourself and shred with your son and fucking go get an ice cream or some shit and chill the fuck out, jock.

Matt Montgomery is a piece of shit

I worked at the Etnies Skatepark in Lake Forest for the last 5 years and this dude would bring his kid to the park and force him to skate the biggest obstacles. He would push Trae to the brink of tears to skate the 11 stair.

Trae skated in our contest and got 4th place and Matt confronted us in the office about it.
He yelled in our faces about how his kid should have won.

His wife told us "We have 30 thousand followers, you guys are done"

Fuck that dude.

I feel bad for the kid, who knows what he goes through behind closed doors.

[YungJugg]

the arguement about gaps being damaging is kinda stupid - like, obviously jumping down big shit repeatedly isnt gonna be great for you long term BUT its not as bad as some people are making out. this kid is most likely not gonna be in a wheelchair when he is 40 - look at Jaws hes 30 now and still doing stupidly high drops.

Jamie Thomas, Andrew Reynolds, Rowley .. plenty skaters who were integral to the stair/rail era who are still skating at a high level

I think a lot of it comes down to luck (or possibly genetics) - I have a freind who is the same age as me - he never skated, or really did anything that would be considered physically damaging yet he is fucked, he complains about knee pain like a retired carpet fitter - some peoples bodies are just less sturdy than others, its pot luck imo

only time will tell for this little guy

I’d love to read an “impact” article/interview in Thrasher or whatever with guys like that (Jaws, Reynolds, JT etc.). How decades of that style affects their current skating and daily lifestyle, worst heel bruise stories, all the shit that comes along with that. Could be a good read.

[WobbleHeadBob]

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the arguement about gaps being damaging is kinda stupid - like, obviously jumping down big shit repeatedly isnt gonna be great for you long term BUT its not as bad as some people are making out. this kid is most likely not gonna be in a wheelchair when he is 40 - look at Jaws hes 30 now and still doing stupidly high drops.

Jamie Thomas, Andrew Reynolds, Rowley .. plenty skaters who were integral to the stair/rail era who are still skating at a high level

I think a lot of it comes down to luck (or possibly genetics) - I have a freind who is the same age as me - he never skated, or really did anything that would be considered physically damaging yet he is fucked, he complains about knee pain like a retired carpet fitter - some peoples bodies are just less sturdy than others, its pot luck imo

only time will tell for this little guy

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I’d love to read an “impact” article/interview in Thrasher or whatever with guys like that (Jaws, Reynolds, JT etc.). How decades of that style affects their current skating and daily lifestyle, worst heel bruise stories, all the shit that comes along with that. Could be a good read.

id read that for sure

[Atiba Applebum]

This is -all- I've ever heard about this guy. It's all going to catch up to him sooner or later. Fuck this douchebag. Get on a skateboard with yourself and shred with your son and fucking go get an ice cream or some shit and chill the fuck out, jock.

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Matt Montgomery is a piece of shit

I worked at the Etnies Skatepark in Lake Forest for the last 5 years and this dude would bring his kid to the park and force him to skate the biggest obstacles. He would push Trae to the brink of tears to skate the 11 stair.

Trae skated in our contest and got 4th place and Matt confronted us in the office about it.
He yelled in our faces about how his kid should have won.

His wife told us "We have 30 thousand followers, you guys are done"

Fuck that dude.

I feel bad for the kid, who knows what he goes through behind closed doors.

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Some guy bragging on the Axion IG comments that he lives across the street from “Trae the Tank”. 

What annoys me pretty close to the most is pushing that nickname so hard and telling the story of some random person at Santa Cruz giving it to him like it’s the coronation of Charlemagne

[manysnakes]

Ask a medical expert about pre-teens and their bones, unless you are scared to.

I reached out to someone in children medicine

[n0torious]

I reached out to someone in children medicine

Don't go spilling your beans, lad.

[DannyDee]

Is it likely to leave him long-term crippled, probably not. Although, are we just going to ignore the major possibility of head injuries skating stuff like this. Even with a helmet, that just stops you from breaking your skull, you can still get significant concussions.

Secondly, how many of these legendary skaters parents were pushing them to jump down these things in the name of fame, money and Instagram followers. That is abhorrent behavior by a parent. That's way past the line of supporting your kid's interests. Supporting your kids interests is driving them to the skate park, building them a mini-ramp or a fun-box. Not pushing them to film a clip like Jamie Thomas does to Zero riders.

[Watitdo]

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Yup clowns I know many that have blown out their knees and torn ACL, MCL, twice on both knees, rehabilitated and are ripping now.

You are claiming that 5-12 year olds jumping down 10 stairs will end up in a wheelchair and claiming that's child abuse are fucking major kooks.

Also claiming that today's pros didn't hit big gaps when they were pre-teens and need assistance walking is major bullshit. There is not one pro in the history of pro skating walking with a cane because of a pre-teen stair set or gap injury. That would mean they went through their whole pro career using a fucking cane and could say it came from this specific session when I was 7 ollieing a 10 stair lmao.

Ask a medical expert about pre-teens and their bones, unless you are scared to.

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Are you 15? Lol.

I'm telling you straight up my friend, I know former pros and many other skaters who can't skate anymore because they focussed on doing big shit when they were younger. You seem to be really hung up on the age when injuries happen, while I'm talking about the long term effects of this type of skating in general. Trae seems to be into huge drops. If he continues on that path for much longer, he will be feeling it for the rest of his life, trust me. I barely fucked with gaps and rails and at 43 my body is a painful wreck, but I can still skate because I kept it more low impact most of the time.

But yeah - hit us with links to these rippers who blew both knees twice and are still ripping on the same level. Love to see it. That's inspiring. Something tells me you made that up though.

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Damn dude you're a headache...You are acknowledging I'm specifically talking about a certain age range when you're being general about big gap skating. There is no need to argue when talking about two different things, and you know we are?!? Jeeze.

I'm having a brain fart on pros/ams who came back from knee surgery.  I also can't think of anyone personally that absolutely can't skateboard after years of skating and injuries. Which I'm completely fine with your experience in life with "who you know" is different than mine lol.

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I knew you made that shit up. 

Mike York!! Remember Hot Chocolate tour? His knee brace? He's not in a wheelchair. He's probably out skating right now. I'll try and think of more pros...not naming personal friends that's too easy. I like the puzzle/brain challenge of trying to remember.

There's got to be more recoveries than that, but I'm not sure. Eldy, Kelly, and Crob had injuries and have dropped new clips since their injuries. Kelly was out for a while then fakie tre flipped up the stage to fakie manual. I wonder if Andrew Reynolds or Jeremy Wray hit big gaps in their pre-teens, or went through any knee injuries? Same with Alphonzo Rawls. Probably not? Because their careers would have been cut way short (sarc.). Maybe it's in their Epicly Later'd. That's a trip Diego the Butcher just had that shared part drop a year or two ago, and he's still got it after years of skating big shit. But maybe these recent years are the first time in life when 8 year olds hit big gaps (sarc.)?

Damn just remembered Cale Nuske...hella knee problems. Not in a wheelchair:

Also pretty sure Arto fucked up his knee on that nollie bail in Really Sorry and came back for Mindfield. Arto is not in a wheelchair today. Actually didn't Arto start late in skateboarding? Maybe that wasn't good for his knee in the long run. Maybe if you start younger you'll have more stamina. Speaking of Flip, in a jenkem interview Rowley admits to having knee surgery on both knees and he's not in a wheelchair, but I have a feeling he hucked as a grom? Hmmmm I wonder... Might binge on some Epicly Later'd in November if they're still on youtube.

[Atiba Applebum]

Corey Shepard or James Craig ended their career blowing both knees out on that one double set

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Yup clowns I know many that have blown out their knees and torn ACL, MCL, twice on both knees, rehabilitated and are ripping now.

You are claiming that 5-12 year olds jumping down 10 stairs will end up in a wheelchair and claiming that's child abuse are fucking major kooks.

Also claiming that today's pros didn't hit big gaps when they were pre-teens and need assistance walking is major bullshit. There is not one pro in the history of pro skating walking with a cane because of a pre-teen stair set or gap injury. That would mean they went through their whole pro career using a fucking cane and could say it came from this specific session when I was 7 ollieing a 10 stair lmao.

Ask a medical expert about pre-teens and their bones, unless you are scared to.

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Are you 15? Lol.

I'm telling you straight up my friend, I know former pros and many other skaters who can't skate anymore because they focussed on doing big shit when they were younger. You seem to be really hung up on the age when injuries happen, while I'm talking about the long term effects of this type of skating in general. Trae seems to be into huge drops. If he continues on that path for much longer, he will be feeling it for the rest of his life, trust me. I barely fucked with gaps and rails and at 43 my body is a painful wreck, but I can still skate because I kept it more low impact most of the time.

But yeah - hit us with links to these rippers who blew both knees twice and are still ripping on the same level. Love to see it. That's inspiring. Something tells me you made that up though.

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Damn dude you're a headache...You are acknowledging I'm specifically talking about a certain age range when you're being general about big gap skating. There is no need to argue when talking about two different things, and you know we are?!? Jeeze.

I'm having a brain fart on pros/ams who came back from knee surgery.  I also can't think of anyone personally that absolutely can't skateboard after years of skating and injuries. Which I'm completely fine with your experience in life with "who you know" is different than mine lol.

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I knew you made that shit up. 

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Mike York!! Remember Hot Chocolate tour? His knee brace? He's not in a wheelchair. He's probably out skating right now. I'll try and think of more pros...not naming personal friends that's too easy. I like the puzzle/brain challenge of trying to remember.

There's got to be more recoveries than that, but I'm not sure. Eldy, Kelly, and Crob had injuries and have dropped new clips since their injuries. Kelly was out for a while then fakie tre flipped up the stage to fakie manual. I wonder if Andrew Reynolds or Jeremy Wray hit big gaps in their pre-teens, or went through any knee injuries? Same with Alphonzo Rawls. Probably not? Because their careers would have been cut way short (sarc.). Maybe it's in their Epicly Later'd. That's a trip Diego the Butcher just had that shared part drop a year or two ago, and he's still got it after years of skating big shit. But maybe these recent years are the first time in life when 8 year olds hit big gaps (sarc.)?

Damn just remembered Cale Nuske...hella knee problems. Not in a wheelchair:

Also pretty sure Arto fucked up his knee on that nollie bail in Really Sorry and came back for Mindfield. Arto is not in a wheelchair today. Actually didn't Arto start late in skateboarding? Maybe that wasn't good for his knee in the long run. Maybe if you start younger you'll have more stamina. Speaking of Flip, in a jenkem interview Rowley admits to having knee surgery on both knees and he's not in a wheelchair, but I have a feeling he hucked as a grom? Hmmmm I wonder... Might binge on some Epicly Later'd in November if they're still on youtube.

If you like Trae's dad so much why don't you just marry him?

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Yup clowns I know many that have blown out their knees and torn ACL, MCL, twice on both knees, rehabilitated and are ripping now.

You are claiming that 5-12 year olds jumping down 10 stairs will end up in a wheelchair and claiming that's child abuse are fucking major kooks.

Also claiming that today's pros didn't hit big gaps when they were pre-teens and need assistance walking is major bullshit. There is not one pro in the history of pro skating walking with a cane because of a pre-teen stair set or gap injury. That would mean they went through their whole pro career using a fucking cane and could say it came from this specific session when I was 7 ollieing a 10 stair lmao.

Ask a medical expert about pre-teens and their bones, unless you are scared to.

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Are you 15? Lol.

I'm telling you straight up my friend, I know former pros and many other skaters who can't skate anymore because they focussed on doing big shit when they were younger. You seem to be really hung up on the age when injuries happen, while I'm talking about the long term effects of this type of skating in general. Trae seems to be into huge drops. If he continues on that path for much longer, he will be feeling it for the rest of his life, trust me. I barely fucked with gaps and rails and at 43 my body is a painful wreck, but I can still skate because I kept it more low impact most of the time.

But yeah - hit us with links to these rippers who blew both knees twice and are still ripping on the same level. Love to see it. That's inspiring. Something tells me you made that up though.

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Damn dude you're a headache...You are acknowledging I'm specifically talking about a certain age range when you're being general about big gap skating. There is no need to argue when talking about two different things, and you know we are?!? Jeeze.

I'm having a brain fart on pros/ams who came back from knee surgery.  I also can't think of anyone personally that absolutely can't skateboard after years of skating and injuries. Which I'm completely fine with your experience in life with "who you know" is different than mine lol.

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I knew you made that shit up. 

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Mike York!! Remember Hot Chocolate tour? His knee brace? He's not in a wheelchair. He's probably out skating right now. I'll try and think of more pros...not naming personal friends that's too easy. I like the puzzle/brain challenge of trying to remember.

There's got to be more recoveries than that, but I'm not sure. Eldy, Kelly, and Crob had injuries and have dropped new clips since their injuries. Kelly was out for a while then fakie tre flipped up the stage to fakie manual. I wonder if Andrew Reynolds or Jeremy Wray hit big gaps in their pre-teens, or went through any knee injuries? Same with Alphonzo Rawls. Probably not? Because their careers would have been cut way short (sarc.). Maybe it's in their Epicly Later'd. That's a trip Diego the Butcher just had that shared part drop a year or two ago, and he's still got it after years of skating big shit. But maybe these recent years are the first time in life when 8 year olds hit big gaps (sarc.)?

Damn just remembered Cale Nuske...hella knee problems. Not in a wheelchair:

Also pretty sure Arto fucked up his knee on that nollie bail in Really Sorry and came back for Mindfield. Arto is not in a wheelchair today. Actually didn't Arto start late in skateboarding? Maybe that wasn't good for his knee in the long run. Maybe if you start younger you'll have more stamina. Speaking of Flip, in a jenkem interview Rowley admits to having knee surgery on both knees and he's not in a wheelchair, but I have a feeling he hucked as a grom? Hmmmm I wonder... Might binge on some Epicly Later'd in November if they're still on youtube.

So yeah, the 'I know multiple people who have blown both knees twice and still rip' was made up, glad that's been cleared up.

And just to be clear on my end of things - I'm not even saying that someone who blew both knees twice won't be able to keep skating. I'm just saying blowing your knees in the first place is not a good thing, and no matter if you keep skating or not, arthritis is real and the majority of skaters who tear MCL's and ACL's end up cutting down on skating because of it.

I was not the one saying people are going to be in a wheelchair the rest of their life, and I believe the posters who said that weren't being literal. It's a way of saying 'I think this kid who loves big gaps and doesn't seem to take the landings well might be in rough shape later in life'. Everyone is different. I know plenty of people who had serious injuries like blown knees who still skate amazing. No one is saying you can't skate if you tear your knee or suffer some other serious injury. We're showing concern for a little dude who is taking a heavy gamble for his age/skill level - many posters are concerned about the part the dad plays (I'm trying not to focus on that too much since I don't know them) - and many of us are giving feedback from years and years of experience in skateboarding on what the long term effects of heavy impact skating/serious injuries are. Maybe you've been really lucky and haven't had any serious injuries yourself, or you're still so
young that you haven't started to feel the long term pain yet - but trust us, it's real.

I also never said he should stop doing what he's doing. Simply making observations on his technique and discussing injuries.

Edit: Were you around when Cale Nuske was in his prime? You remember seeing him skate any rails and gaps since? Kinda proving our point by showing clips of a guy who used to primarily hit rails and gaps, and isn't very old, and now he skates very low impact. His career ended when he got hurt. If that's not proving our point I don't know what is. If the injury was no big deal, why did his career end? You also used Arto as an example - well guess what? The main reason you stopped seeing coverage from him was... dun dun dun, INJURY. He transitioned into focussing more on photography because he couldn't skate like he used too. You gotta be young or something, really, Watido.

[ChronicBluntSlider]

Seeing this thread get bumped is like driving by a car crash. I anticipate seeing something horrible when I look but can’t resist my morbid curiosity.

[Punished Skateboards]

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. https://twitter.com/EmilyClemons18/status/662832356122759168

[Freelancevagrant]

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. https://twitter.com/EmilyClemons18/status/662832356122759168

Screenshots, my guy.

If it’s worth posting it’s worth screenshooting because it’s not gonna last.

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Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. https://twitter.com/EmilyClemons18/status/662832356122759168

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Screenshots, my guy.

If it’s worth posting it’s worth screenshooting because it’s not gonna last.

It’s a tweet from 2015

[Freelancevagrant]

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Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. https://twitter.com/EmilyClemons18/status/662832356122759168

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Screenshots, my guy.

If it’s worth posting it’s worth screenshooting because it’s not gonna last.

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It’s a tweet from 2015

The first time I clicked the link it didn’t work, it worked the second time.

But, I stand by what I said.

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Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. https://twitter.com/EmilyClemons18/status/662832356122759168

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Screenshots, my guy.

If it’s worth posting it’s worth screenshooting because it’s not gonna last.

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It’s a tweet from 2015

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The first time I clicked the link it didn’t work, it worked the second time.

But, I stand by what I said.

Should I tweet & hit up every skate company letting them know u stole $ & you've been lying 2 everyone about the Majors?! 👻 @MDMontgomery13

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This is -all- I've ever heard about this guy. It's all going to catch up to him sooner or later. Fuck this douchebag. Get on a skateboard with yourself and shred with your son and fucking go get an ice cream or some shit and chill the fuck out, jock.

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Matt Montgomery is a piece of shit

I worked at the Etnies Skatepark in Lake Forest for the last 5 years and this dude would bring his kid to the park and force him to skate the biggest obstacles. He would push Trae to the brink of tears to skate the 11 stair.

Trae skated in our contest and got 4th place and Matt confronted us in the office about it.
He yelled in our faces about how his kid should have won.

His wife told us "We have 30 thousand followers, you guys are done"

Fuck that dude.

I feel bad for the kid, who knows what he goes through behind closed doors.

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Some guy bragging on the Axion IG comments that he lives across the street from “Trae the Tank”. 

What annoys me pretty close to the most is pushing that nickname so hard and telling the story of some random person at Santa Cruz giving it to him like it’s the coronation of Charlemagne

Lil Trae "The Tank" blocked me on IG, so I guess I'll have to ask you... how did Trae get heralded as "The Tank" by a random dude at Santa Cruz?

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This is -all- I've ever heard about this guy. It's all going to catch up to him sooner or later. Fuck this douchebag. Get on a skateboard with yourself and shred with your son and fucking go get an ice cream or some shit and chill the fuck out, jock.

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Matt Montgomery is a piece of shit

I worked at the Etnies Skatepark in Lake Forest for the last 5 years and this dude would bring his kid to the park and force him to skate the biggest obstacles. He would push Trae to the brink of tears to skate the 11 stair.

Trae skated in our contest and got 4th place and Matt confronted us in the office about it.
He yelled in our faces about how his kid should have won.

His wife told us "We have 30 thousand followers, you guys are done"

Fuck that dude.

I feel bad for the kid, who knows what he goes through behind closed doors.

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Some guy bragging on the Axion IG comments that he lives across the street from “Trae the Tank”. 

What annoys me pretty close to the most is pushing that nickname so hard and telling the story of some random person at Santa Cruz giving it to him like it’s the coronation of Charlemagne

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Lil Trae "The Tank" blocked me on IG, so I guess I'll have to ask you... how did Trae get heralded as "The Tank" by a random dude at Santa Cruz?

He did some trick and some guy said he’s a tank.   Ho-iest of hums

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Yup clowns I know many that have blown out their knees and torn ACL, MCL, twice on both knees, rehabilitated and are ripping now.

You are claiming that 5-12 year olds jumping down 10 stairs will end up in a wheelchair and claiming that's child abuse are fucking major kooks.

Also claiming that today's pros didn't hit big gaps when they were pre-teens and need assistance walking is major bullshit. There is not one pro in the history of pro skating walking with a cane because of a pre-teen stair set or gap injury. That would mean they went through their whole pro career using a fucking cane and could say it came from this specific session when I was 7 ollieing a 10 stair lmao.

Ask a medical expert about pre-teens and their bones, unless you are scared to.

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Are you 15? Lol.

I'm telling you straight up my friend, I know former pros and many other skaters who can't skate anymore because they focussed on doing big shit when they were younger. You seem to be really hung up on the age when injuries happen, while I'm talking about the long term effects of this type of skating in general. Trae seems to be into huge drops. If he continues on that path for much longer, he will be feeling it for the rest of his life, trust me. I barely fucked with gaps and rails and at 43 my body is a painful wreck, but I can still skate because I kept it more low impact most of the time.

But yeah - hit us with links to these rippers who blew both knees twice and are still ripping on the same level. Love to see it. That's inspiring. Something tells me you made that up though.

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Damn dude you're a headache...You are acknowledging I'm specifically talking about a certain age range when you're being general about big gap skating. There is no need to argue when talking about two different things, and you know we are?!? Jeeze.

I'm having a brain fart on pros/ams who came back from knee surgery.  I also can't think of anyone personally that absolutely can't skateboard after years of skating and injuries. Which I'm completely fine with your experience in life with "who you know" is different than mine lol.

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I knew you made that shit up. 

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Mike York!! Remember Hot Chocolate tour? His knee brace? He's not in a wheelchair. He's probably out skating right now. I'll try and think of more pros...not naming personal friends that's too easy. I like the puzzle/brain challenge of trying to remember.

There's got to be more recoveries than that, but I'm not sure. Eldy, Kelly, and Crob had injuries and have dropped new clips since their injuries. Kelly was out for a while then fakie tre flipped up the stage to fakie manual. I wonder if Andrew Reynolds or Jeremy Wray hit big gaps in their pre-teens, or went through any knee injuries? Same with Alphonzo Rawls. Probably not? Because their careers would have been cut way short (sarc.). Maybe it's in their Epicly Later'd. That's a trip Diego the Butcher just had that shared part drop a year or two ago, and he's still got it after years of skating big shit. But maybe these recent years are the first time in life when 8 year olds hit big gaps (sarc.)?

Damn just remembered Cale Nuske...hella knee problems. Not in a wheelchair:

Also pretty sure Arto fucked up his knee on that nollie bail in Really Sorry and came back for Mindfield. Arto is not in a wheelchair today. Actually didn't Arto start late in skateboarding? Maybe that wasn't good for his knee in the long run. Maybe if you start younger you'll have more stamina. Speaking of Flip, in a jenkem interview Rowley admits to having knee surgery on both knees and he's not in a wheelchair, but I have a feeling he hucked as a grom? Hmmmm I wonder... Might binge on some Epicly Later'd in November if they're still on youtube.

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So yeah, the 'I know multiple people who have blown both knees twice and still rip' was made up, glad that's been cleared up.

And just to be clear on my end of things - I'm not even saying that someone who blew both knees twice won't be able to keep skating. I'm just saying blowing your knees in the first place is not a good thing, and no matter if you keep skating or not, arthritis is real and the majority of skaters who tear MCL's and ACL's end up cutting down on skating because of it.

I was not the one saying people are going to be in a wheelchair the rest of their life, and I believe the posters who said that weren't being literal. It's a way of saying 'I think this kid who loves big gaps and doesn't seem to take the landings well might be in rough shape later in life'. Everyone is different. I know plenty of people who had serious injuries like blown knees who still skate amazing. No one is saying you can't skate if you tear your knee or suffer some other serious injury. We're showing concern for a little dude who is taking a heavy gamble for his age/skill level - many posters are concerned about the part the dad plays (I'm trying not to focus on that too much since I don't know them) - and many of us are giving feedback from years and years of experience in skateboarding on what the long term effects of heavy impact skating/serious injuries are. Maybe you've been really lucky and haven't had any serious injuries yourself, or you're still so
young that you haven't started to feel the long term pain yet - but trust us, it's real.

I also never said he should stop doing what he's doing. Simply making observations on his technique and discussing injuries.

Edit: Were you around when Cale Nuske was in his prime? You remember seeing him skate any rails and gaps since? Kinda proving our point by showing clips of a guy who used to primarily hit rails and gaps, and isn't very old, and now he skates very low impact. His career ended when he got hurt. If that's not proving our point I don't know what is. If the injury was no big deal, why did his career end? You also used Arto as an example - well guess what? The main reason you stopped seeing coverage from him was... dun dun dun, INJURY. He transitioned into focussing more on photography because he couldn't skate like he used too. You gotta be young or something, really, Watido.

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Are you 15? Lol.

I'm telling you straight up my friend, I know former pros and many other skaterswho can't skate anymore because they focussed on doing big shit when they were younger.

I'm replying to your statement of "CANT SKATE ANYMORE." Now you're saying they can't skate the way they used to? LMAO...no kidding? No one can do anything like they used to, people get old. You said "can't skate anymore," and I disagree and gave examples of people skating. What the fuck you keep gaslighting me over what skaters I know, hella dumb.

Even Cardiel got an ad of a front 5-0 and Boulala got on a board at the end of his Vice interview, so whatever, you're wrong. People can still skate, there's growing evidence you can skate well into your 40's, 50's, and 60's.

Edit: Also this is a 20+ page thread giving medical advice based on style which is insanely stupid. If it wasn't such a dorky kid with a toxic father you guys would be like he's going to have the best career! LOL

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Yeah, you take things too literally so there's not much point in discussing this with you. If you think Cardiel and Boulala are "still skating", then you truly don't understand what I'm talking about. I'm not even sure what you're trying to argue. What I and other posters are saying is this particular kid lands in a fucked up way and is probably in for some long term pain - do you disagree?

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Yup clowns I know many that have blown out their knees and torn ACL, MCL, twice on both knees, rehabilitated and are ripping now.

You are claiming that 5-12 year olds jumping down 10 stairs will end up in a wheelchair and claiming that's child abuse are fucking major kooks.

Also claiming that today's pros didn't hit big gaps when they were pre-teens and need assistance walking is major bullshit. There is not one pro in the history of pro skating walking with a cane because of a pre-teen stair set or gap injury. That would mean they went through their whole pro career using a fucking cane and could say it came from this specific session when I was 7 ollieing a 10 stair lmao.

Ask a medical expert about pre-teens and their bones, unless you are scared to.

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Are you 15? Lol.

I'm telling you straight up my friend, I know former pros and many other skaters who can't skate anymore because they focussed on doing big shit when they were younger. You seem to be really hung up on the age when injuries happen, while I'm talking about the long term effects of this type of skating in general. Trae seems to be into huge drops. If he continues on that path for much longer, he will be feeling it for the rest of his life, trust me. I barely fucked with gaps and rails and at 43 my body is a painful wreck, but I can still skate because I kept it more low impact most of the time.

But yeah - hit us with links to these rippers who blew both knees twice and are still ripping on the same level. Love to see it. That's inspiring. Something tells me you made that up though.

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Damn dude you're a headache...You are acknowledging I'm specifically talking about a certain age range when you're being general about big gap skating. There is no need to argue when talking about two different things, and you know we are?!? Jeeze.

I'm having a brain fart on pros/ams who came back from knee surgery.  I also can't think of anyone personally that absolutely can't skateboard after years of skating and injuries. Which I'm completely fine with your experience in life with "who you know" is different than mine lol.

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I knew you made that shit up. 

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Mike York!! Remember Hot Chocolate tour? His knee brace? He's not in a wheelchair. He's probably out skating right now. I'll try and think of more pros...not naming personal friends that's too easy. I like the puzzle/brain challenge of trying to remember.

There's got to be more recoveries than that, but I'm not sure. Eldy, Kelly, and Crob had injuries and have dropped new clips since their injuries. Kelly was out for a while then fakie tre flipped up the stage to fakie manual. I wonder if Andrew Reynolds or Jeremy Wray hit big gaps in their pre-teens, or went through any knee injuries? Same with Alphonzo Rawls. Probably not? Because their careers would have been cut way short (sarc.). Maybe it's in their Epicly Later'd. That's a trip Diego the Butcher just had that shared part drop a year or two ago, and he's still got it after years of skating big shit. But maybe these recent years are the first time in life when 8 year olds hit big gaps (sarc.)?

Damn just remembered Cale Nuske...hella knee problems. Not in a wheelchair:

Also pretty sure Arto fucked up his knee on that nollie bail in Really Sorry and came back for Mindfield. Arto is not in a wheelchair today. Actually didn't Arto start late in skateboarding? Maybe that wasn't good for his knee in the long run. Maybe if you start younger you'll have more stamina. Speaking of Flip, in a jenkem interview Rowley admits to having knee surgery on both knees and he's not in a wheelchair, but I have a feeling he hucked as a grom? Hmmmm I wonder... Might binge on some Epicly Later'd in November if they're still on youtube.

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So yeah, the 'I know multiple people who have blown both knees twice and still rip' was made up, glad that's been cleared up.

And just to be clear on my end of things - I'm not even saying that someone who blew both knees twice won't be able to keep skating. I'm just saying blowing your knees in the first place is not a good thing, and no matter if you keep skating or not, arthritis is real and the majority of skaters who tear MCL's and ACL's end up cutting down on skating because of it.

I was not the one saying people are going to be in a wheelchair the rest of their life, and I believe the posters who said that weren't being literal. It's a way of saying 'I think this kid who loves big gaps and doesn't seem to take the landings well might be in rough shape later in life'. Everyone is different. I know plenty of people who had serious injuries like blown knees who still skate amazing. No one is saying you can't skate if you tear your knee or suffer some other serious injury. We're showing concern for a little dude who is taking a heavy gamble for his age/skill level - many posters are concerned about the part the dad plays (I'm trying not to focus on that too much since I don't know them) - and many of us are giving feedback from years and years of experience in skateboarding on what the long term effects of heavy impact skating/serious injuries are. Maybe you've been really lucky and haven't had any serious injuries yourself, or you're still so
young that you haven't started to feel the long term pain yet - but trust us, it's real.

I also never said he should stop doing what he's doing. Simply making observations on his technique and discussing injuries.

Edit: Were you around when Cale Nuske was in his prime? You remember seeing him skate any rails and gaps since? Kinda proving our point by showing clips of a guy who used to primarily hit rails and gaps, and isn't very old, and now he skates very low impact. His career ended when he got hurt. If that's not proving our point I don't know what is. If the injury was no big deal, why did his career end? You also used Arto as an example - well guess what? The main reason you stopped seeing coverage from him was... dun dun dun, INJURY. He transitioned into focussing more on photography because he couldn't skate like he used too. You gotta be young or something, really, Watido.

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You can win the argument if it means that much to you, but you literally said:

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Are you 15? Lol.

I'm telling you straight up my friend, I know former pros and many other skaterswho can't skate anymore because they focussed on doing big shit when they were younger.

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I'm replying to your statement of "CANT SKATE ANYMORE." Now you're saying they can't skate the way they used to? LMAO...no kidding? No one can do anything like they used to, people get old. You said "can't skate anymore," and I disagree and gave examples of people skating. What the fuck you keep gaslighting me over what skaters I know, hella dumb.

Even Cardiel got an ad of a front 5-0 and Boulala got on a board at the end of his Vice interview, so whatever, you're wrong. People can still skate, there's growing evidence you can skate well into your 40's, 50's, and 60's.

Edit: Also this is a 20+ page thread giving medical advice based on style which is insanely stupid. If it wasn't such a dorky kid with a toxic father you guys would be like he's going to have the best career! LOL

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i ve had 9 knee surgeries in total all on the same knee...2 real big ones 3 big ones and the rest cleanups and the like... but i ve been without acl and mcl for almost a decade... first blew it out in 95 when i was 17...

i m still skating and learning new tricks though- i also gotta say people especially doctors want to put it in your mind that you can t skate anymore... my experience is that the body adapts to anything if you put it in the situation and invest the time

I think the 9 knee surgeries should tell you your body isn’t adapting too well

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I need LPQ to come back.

We need you.

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When Trae lands I cringe and pray for his knees, ankles, legs, general well being